Sudden Jihad Syndrome In the Capital
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I had heard bits and pieces of this all day, but it wasn’t until talking to the in laws that I heard enough to be interested:
A 51-year-old Mclean woman was “involuntarily committed” after she allegedly made a bomb threat aboard a Red Line train Monday morning, panicking fellow riders and causing train delays, according to officials.
The bomb scare took place at 7:45 a.m. when an eight-car train bound for Twinbrook was leaving the station, according to Metro Transit Deputy Police Chief Ron Pavlik.
The woman, whose name was being withheld, dropped to her knees and said, “You killed my family. Now I’m going to kill you all,” Pavlik said
There was ultimately apparently no real bomb. And that is all and well and good, but they bury the lede. In the twenty-third paragraph:
[Robin] Ratcliff* said she did not see the woman who made the alleged threat, but heard other passengers running into the first car where Ratcliff was, saying the woman said “Praise Allah. I’m going to kill the world,” before throwing a backpack onto the train and exiting.
But hey, we have committed her, so she is just a nut, move-along-now,-nothing-to-see-here. You know, I would feel much safer if they just acknowledged the problem.
Anyway, read the whole thing.
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* The authors of the article writes her name as Ratliff and Ratcliff. Who knows which is right.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]
“The system worked. Man-caused disaster averted. Nothing to see here. Move along!” — Janet Nappyheaditano
Icy Texan (158370) — 6/13/2011 @ 8:47 pmIslamophobe! Denounced and condemned.
Just because the woman who allegedly made the threat and threw the backpack into the train was wearing a hijab does not mean she was a Muslim.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/13/2011 @ 9:15 pmNow be real here. You don’t know what she actually said, and besides you’re a racist and shut up. So there.
f1guyus (2a84e9) — 6/13/2011 @ 9:15 pm“…(W)e have been unable to get additional information about what the woman meant when she said ‘You killed my family…’ ”
That quote from the Metro spokesman is funny. Does he suppose she might have a just cause for some retribution?
Arizona Bob (aa856e) — 6/13/2011 @ 9:28 pmShe’s not a jihadist. You need to retract. Islam is a religion of peace, according to the government, and therefore, it is not acceptable to believe your lying eyes that we might have a fundamentally serious problem with quite a few Muslims. No, Islam is peace. Freedom is Slavery. Deep Dish or Thin Crust.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/13/2011 @ 9:34 pmBut you see, if she is an Islamofascist nutjob whacko and blows up a train full of people, those people are somehow less dead than if they were blown up by Tim McVeigh. This is why we can’t bother to investigate the root causes of her psychosis, we just have to assume that she is trying to smear the Religion of Peace.
JVW (24ee9a) — 6/13/2011 @ 9:52 pmThe system worked it’s the right-wing terrorists i worry about-Lulu the clown napolitano.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:14 pmThat’s not burying the lede. Had the woman actually said “Praise Allah”, that would be interesting. But the paper’s already reported, presumably from first-hand accounts, that she didn’t say that. The fact that one person claims to have heard a panicked rumour that she said “Praise Allah” isn’t nearly that interesting. It relates not to actual jihad but to our fear of jihad, and how people who are afraid of jihad can mishear what is actually said.
Arizona Bob, it’s not funny, it’s a serious question: what did she mean by it? Did she have a family? Are they now dead? If so, how did they die? And why did she blame random commuters on the Red Line for their deaths?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:18 pmThe answer here is to spend more money for security and safety on public transportation.
TimesDisliker (e18626) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:20 pmThis doesn’t prove SJS
OK, not enough to stand up in court, but the people were running for a reason. They were totally freaking out. Someone saw her toss that ‘bomb’ in the train.
She’s from India, and the do have a problem with radical islamists, but it’s unfair to prejudge.
Still, the evidence we’ve got, that she was shouting, tossing a bag, and some heard something about Allah and killing, make me believe it was probably an act of terrorism and jihad (and yeah, it’s terrorism even if there wasn’t really a bomb).
They were scared enough to walk the 2 miles to the next station on foot. On a rail that is normally electrified.
I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt on what they think they heard.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:30 pmShe clearly tossed something, and made a threat. The question is whether it was an act of jihad or completely unrelated. Kneeling to pray is a Christian thing to do, not a Moslem thing; Moslems prostrate themselves. I wouldn’t trust anonymous witnesses to know what hijab looks like. And if she was ranting about Moslem Americans, that would seem to indicate that she isn’t one. In fact, my first guess, based on this report, is that it will turn out that her family was killed by Moslems, possibly in a jihadist attack, and that she imagined the people in the train were all jihadists that she was going to kill in revenge.
The only indication that she was engaged in jihad is the false rumour that she said “Praise Allah”. And that belongs down in the story where it is, not in the lede.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:39 pmThat’s true. She could just be crazy.
Ummmm
It depends. You can’t really authoritatively say no Muslims pray in a way that will be described as kneeling.
The witness’s name was Egyptian.
My first guess is that she associates Americans with the people killing a non literal family of Muslims.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:43 pmYou know it’s false?
From some of these stories, she grew very loud, and I suspect a lot of people could have heard what she said. If someone ran off a train, down normally electrified track, warning others that she said something about Allah, that’s at least something.
However, I’ve seen several stories on this, and only one mentions “praise allah”. I would hope that detail was covered in multiple places if it were true, so it’s not unfair to be skeptical.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:47 pmWell, they start out kneeling, before going all the way down. They don’t magically go from standing to prostrate and back in one fluid motion. So OK, kneeling is consistent with her being Moslem, but just as consistent with her being Xian, or probably one of many other religions. (BTW, your link doesn’t work; but I found the picture by searching the site.)
Good point. He would know hijab from other headgear.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:56 pmShut up you spineless dhimmi.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/13/2011 @ 10:56 pmI hope in future she uses better judgment
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 6/13/2011 @ 11:16 pmThat’s true. And I guess I suck at linking sometimes. Oh well, you get the point.
Anyway, it’s a riveting story, isn’t it? People freaking out on a train and running down the tracks?
No doubt, this is not a very good place to get a reliable quote on whether the bomber was Muslim. But still, it’s a crazy scene.
Where would this blog be without this guy?
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/13/2011 @ 11:23 pmPraise Allah? The reporter watered down the traditional, “Allahu Akbar.”
Arizona Bob (aa856e) — 6/13/2011 @ 11:25 pmstories like this are why it’s a good reason to check the Jawa Report several times a day…
besides boobie posts and fatwa contests, that is. 8)
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 6/13/2011 @ 11:26 pmWhat makes you say that? How do you know what this Ratcliff woman who was not a witness told the reporter about the false rumour she heard?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 6/14/2011 @ 12:35 amWe had a surplus under clinton?
We had a deficit under bush?
Hey you wanna starve keep voting for democraps.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:16 amOne of the witnesses was Egyptian in origin. Perhaps that train has a number of regular commuters of ME origin or the Muslim faith and she’s annoyed with them. The “praise” thing either was presumed by witnesses or a kind of sarcastic remark.
Richard Aubrey (cafc94) — 6/14/2011 @ 6:12 amOr it could be SJS.
Assume it was “Allahu Akbar” until first hand witnesses specifically say otherwise. Too often the media actively conceals pertinent information. They regularly fail to note the party affiliation of Democrat miscreants, and they pointedly refuse to identify the race of black suspects, even when police are seeking a specific individual.
The US media is fully invested in the business of selective reporting in order to manipulate rather than to inform. Don’t trust a word they say, they’re professional liars, and misinforming you is what they do, it’s why they get paid.
ropelight (50182a) — 6/14/2011 @ 6:14 amAllah?
Never heard of him.
Charles Gibson (2f1acd) — 6/14/2011 @ 7:34 amCharles Johnson-Islamophobes how do you know she wasn’t saying Obama is great.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/14/2011 @ 7:38 amTypo: “the authors of the article writes …” (should have been “write”).
Robin Munn (347954) — 6/14/2011 @ 7:44 amIt’s a disturbed person who has been committed to a mental health institution. The “allah” quotes are all third-hand. Meh.
carlitos (25ee92) — 6/14/2011 @ 7:46 am“Praise Allah? The reporter watered down the traditional, “Allahu Akbar.””
Islamophobes!
I’m betting it was really “Aloha Snackbar” because the woman had just come back from a Hawaiian vacation, or something.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:03 amWhy would you assume she said “Allahu akbar”, any more than that she said “Twinkle, twinkle little star”, or “We hold these truths to be self-evident”? There’s no reason to believe she said anything related to Allah at all. On the contrary, the only report we have of what she said is “You killed my family”. So what would make you think, of all the things she could possibly have said, that it was “Allahu akbar”? Just because some panicked non-witness heard a rumour that she said something different?! How crazy is that?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:09 amYep, all those videos we have seen of mosques filled with the devout kneeling, bowing then returning to kneeling are figments of our imagination. Got it.
in_awe (44fed5) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:28 amMilhouse, it’s the Egyptian man who said she was starting to pray. Presumably he saw her start out the standard Muslim technique, whatever that was, if he described it that way.
But according to him, she did not say “Praise Allah!”:
Although I’m sure Pamela Geller would instantly dismiss that because after all, he’s a Moslem and therefore her fellow jihadi.
kishnevi (437df2) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:57 pm