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6/26/2011

Jenny George Files Police Report Accusing Me (Lee Stranahan) Of Making Threats Against Her; A Charge I Deny

Filed under: General — Stranahan @ 6:40 pm

NOTE FROM PATTERICO: THIS IS NOT MY POST. THIS IS A POST BY LEE STRANAHAN

[Guest Post by Lee Stranahan]

I received a phone call at about today from a police detective. He told me that a woman named Jennifer George had come into the station in the past few days and filed a police report claiming that she had received death threats, telling her that she’d be dead before sundown and that she should watch out for her family. (Recently threats were made against bloggers Patterico and Ace from Ace of Spades HQ that used similar language. )

The detective told me that there’s a written report based on what Ms. George said that those threats were made by a specific person who she named — Lee Stranahan.

I categorically and completely deny that any threats were made by me. I believe that Ms. George’s police report is provably false.

More details on this soon.

– Lee Stranahan

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: Lee has clarified that the Jennifer George in question is NOT the one in California with a web site and Twitter feed. So please leave her alone.

113 Responses to “Jenny George Files Police Report Accusing Me (Lee Stranahan) Of Making Threats Against Her; A Charge I Deny”

  1. lucky you… at least you know a lawyer or two. 8)

    what is the penalty for filing a false report where this was done?

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  2. Sorry if I missed this, but is Jenny George the trouble screenwriter from UCLA?

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  3. Filing a false report is a felony.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  4. This is unfortunate. This is why I would be way too leery to get out in the weeds with all of the crazy people involved in this story.

    JD (318f81)

  5. Apparently she is attempting to “raise awareness” of loony leftists making death threats by falsely claiming Lee Stranahan is making death threats. (As If…) Whats’ the over-under she will get a guest post on the Daily Kos.

    DANEgerus (2798d9)

  6. Let us know that you verified this report
    s existence without relying on any contact information given you.

    SarahW (af7312)

  7. I do believe that they picked one of the wrong people to try and intimidate into silence.

    Please do investigate everything there is to know about “Jenny George” and inform the entire world of your findings…

    Fuzzlenutter (151469)

  8. I haven’t followed this with the attention it would require, but as a criminal defense attorney, let me just say this: SHUT UP. Don’t post about pending police investigations, however ridiculous or malicious. Seek legal advice. I suspect you could find pro bono advice from some follower of this blog ….

    Ken (21bfbb)

  9. A false report is a class 1 misdemeanor most places.

    Lee hasn’t told us yet whether there is any actual report….just someone claiming to be a detective informing him.

    He had better, if he did not already do the obvious, call that station without relying on any contact information given him.

    SarahW (af7312)

  10. Doesn’t make sense for a criminal to go to the cops.

    So she’s either not a criminal, or it’s not really the cops, or she’s f-ing crazier than any of us expected.

    koam (7c1f46)

  11. This is getting progressively weirder as time goes on. My spidey sense is tingling something fierce that this is all “off.”

    I keep expecting to hear that Men in Black are visiting with witnesses….

    Simon Jester (a9dd5a)

  12. Doesn’t make sense for a criminal to go to the cops.

    I kinda disagree with this.

    If Lee’s actually right about Jenny George, this would be one of the things such a person would do. A last ditch effort to say ‘back off’. After all the outrage over Alicia Pain, who for all we know, came from the same person behind some sockpuppets, it would be at the front of their minds as options for lies to tell about whoever is onto them.

    I think if this is a real police report, that’s a sure sign this is the crazy person.

    And despite my differences with Lee, it’s pretty damn obvious he wouldn’t threaten someone. He’s interested in his reputation, thinking long term about how this interesting story can impact his other ventures and his profile. He’s not losing cool in his relentless pursuit. He’s got a different breed of relentlessness that is completely incompatible with threats.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  13. “She isn’t quite herself today” – Psycho

    jeff (707f3d)

  14. Jennifer George has been reading these blogs and knows Ace and Patterico received death threats. Why would she think Lee sent it? Go read her blog first.
    http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html

    [IMPORTANT: I AM FAIRLY CONFIDENT THIS IS A DIFFERENT JENNIFER GEORGE. — PATTERICO]

    julian b (b33ef1)

  15. The way I read Strahan’s tweets are that the Jenny George at that link jennifergeorge.com is not the same person as the nutjob Jennifer George. The girl with the web site is in CA and Stranahan is saying the nutjob is in Mass.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  16. I agree with Dustin on this. In fact, Ms. Jenny George has in my mind become the prime suspect for sending those death threats to Patterico and Ace.

    Only trouble is, I can’t remember who, in the cast of this particular opera d’savon, Jenny George is, or is supposed to be, or claims to be.

    It might be helpful if someone posts a timeline and cast of characters somewhere, just so we can keep things straight.

    jbs (a6ffde)

  17. Not outside the realm of possibility is that someone posed as Stranahan. People should be careful of liability, as someone might want to cash in on some libel action here.

    jeff (707f3d)

  18. This actually makes me think she may have been behind the threats to Patterico and Ace. Didn’t her professor or instructor say she was far left and political? We know that the left is very good at accusing people of doing exactly what they are guilty of.

    Susie Q (653074)

  19. No, the Jennifer George who claimed death threat from Lee is the one at this site
    http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html
    Thats my hunch but read her post and decide.

    It’s not the crazy JG on the east coast.

    julian b (b33ef1)

  20. Not outside the realm of possibility is that someone posed as Stranahan. People should be careful of liability, as someone might want to cash in on some libel action here.

    Comment by jeff — 6/26/2011 @ 7:21 pm

    Yeah, that’s true. Someone angry with Lee could have pulled a stunt like this. I guess if Lee is on the wrong track, someone could have done this to make it seem he’s on the right one, but damn am I tired of these double blind superspy narratives. I don’t believe that. I think Lee is being targeted specifically and because he’s actually upsetting the person behind some or all of this mess lately.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  21. Comment by Susie Q — 6/26/2011 @ 7:22 pm
    In this instance, I don’t think political leanings are the matrix for her action, but mystery story tropes: if you’re sending death threats, send yourself one so it’s “obviously” not you who is sending the threats.
    Real criminals may or may not do that–Patterico can say if they do or not–but this whole affair has the pattern of being organized by someone who has read too many detective stories. Even the threat sent to Patterico could come straight out of a mystery story.

    JBS (5e4e0a)

  22. Did we get clarification on which Jenny it is?

    Unstable Massachusetts Liberal or Cute Kitty Video Blogger?

    koam (7c1f46)

  23. “I think Lee is being targeted specifically and because he’s actually upsetting the person”
    Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

    Here’s Jennifer Georges twitter feed
    http://twitter.com/#!/blogarsay

    julian b (b33ef1)

  24. I believe it’s the Cute Kitty Video Blogger.

    julian b (b33ef1)

  25. Its also funny if you read through the JenniferGeorge.com page on Weinergate that Stranahan is playing things totally straight and upfront and the NYT reporter Jan Preston is disingenuous at best when she says the reason for her call is this:

    Jennifer,
    Will buzz you in the morning. I came across your work. Highly respected. I will give you a buzz in the morning. Looking to find people who blog/post on Twitter for a living, and someone said, you might hve some ideas, leads.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  26. Unstable Massachusetts Liberal or Cute Kitty Video Blogger?

    From @stranahan twitter:

    “It’s what I just said; NOT the one in California. It’s the one I said I was 99% sure on. Now, 100% @ronbryn @wittier @Patterico”

    I’m pretty sure that the Cute Kitty one is the one in California (which is NOT the one).

    piglet (29770b)

  27. Lee said again that the JG is NOT the one in CA (with the twitter and website).
    http://twitter.com/#!/Stranahan/status/85168640881725441

    Kristina (0ca6be)

  28. “Lee said again that the JG is NOT the one in CA” That filed the police report against Lee? If so, my apologies.

    julian b (b33ef1)

  29. Correct. That is a different person.

    Patterico (135ea8)

  30. I’ve haven’t been following this close enough. But the handle “starchild111″ caught my eye. Google “Starchild libertarian party” for similar stuff, or just google “starchild” for more general wackiness. (The Starchild Skull?!)

    I have no idea if this has any bearing on Weinergate and its ramifications, but this thing is getting strange enough….

    JBS (5e4e0a)

  31. I agree with the advice you’ve been given by Ken, Lee. You do yourself a favor and not talk about this crap until you’ve had a lawyer sort out if it’s real report and until the police are satisfied that she’s a nut.

    Jenny seems to be absolutely a freak who’s latched onto this story and may be behind the AP threats. She may even be behind some of the sock-puppetry and fake DMs leaked so far. Stranahan you don’t owe it to any of us, or the ‘story’ to have to risk your rep, money or safety to bring it to us.

    I disagree with you about Patriot/Dan being a Jenny sock. I even disagree that she’s part of the Nikki/JohnReid sock exchanges. But I do believe she’s a nut who’s attached herself to the story.

    Isn’t it possible that Patriot/Dan is who he says he is, That GenetteC is who she says she is, but is withholding some info, that the Nikki puppetry is yet a third person, who in an attempt to hoax the right got caught in their own brier patch when it turned out Weiner WAS a perv? And of course that Jenny, baring some other evidence I haven’t seen, is just the nut nibbling at the edges and possibly the Alicia Pain sock?

    I really need a score card….

    coondawg68 (5fad4e)

  32. 10. koam

    I’m putting my money on choice #3.

    Any discrepancy in her story- and since I’m assuming it is a huge lie, it will be rife with discrepancies- and she’s going to the big house. A person has to be really nuts to think they can pull of a stunt like this.

    On the other hand, it suggests that Lee is getting very close to something she wants very much to hide, and she is freaking out.

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  33. A scorecard, coondawg? i need a database management system.

    jeff (707f3d)

  34. Hey, I have a question. If a blogger had been conversing with Alicia Pain, after Ace said he had taken this to the police, do you think said blogger should have let me and Ace in on it?

    Patterico (135ea8)

  35. Someone should remove the links to JG in CA. As I said — she’s NOT the one involved.

    Lee Stranahan (708cc3)

  36. ____________________________________________

    Didn’t her professor or instructor say she was far left and political?

    That would explain things.

    A high percentage of ambulance-chasing trial lawyers are of the left. The loons who assassinated JFK, RFK and attempted to murder that Arizona Congresswoman not long ago were or are of the left. The Hollywood community is largely of the left. The kids into the new phenomenon of flash-mob looting of stores and troublemaking in general (eg, intimidating tourists and others in Chicago) are tied to communities predominantly of the left. Anthony Weiner, of course, is of the left.

    IOW, when something is really f’ed up — totally devoid of reason and common sense (yet full of faux, limousine-liberal compassion) — invariably left-leaning biases and idiocy are involved.

    Yea, there is crap on the right too, but the left truly is king when it comes to turning dysfunction and destructive behavior into an art.

    Mark (411533)

  37. do you think said blogger should have let me and Ace in on it?

    Absolutely, especially if they thought there was any possibility the threat was credible.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  38. If there were no cats in the background of the call, it totally wasn’t Lee. I’m just sayin. :p

    RB (382560)

  39. i am amused at how crystal clear everyone wanted to be that this was lee, not patrick.

    its necessary, but amusing.

    Aaron Worthing (73a7ea)

  40. If there were no cats in the background of the call, it totally wasn’t Lee. I’m just sayin. :p

    Best. Post. Of. Weekend.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  41. Apologies Lee and Patterico. I posted wrong JG links. Now how do I delete them?

    julian b (b33ef1)

  42. Comment by Mark — 6/26/2011

    I need to rescind that, because the person I was referring to is a different JG than the one reporting threats. That was not known when I made my comment.

    But, you’re right in your assessment.

    Susie Q (653074)

  43. Yes,Pattericp, the blogger should have had sense enough to consult with both of you first.

    If he/she did not, too late now.

    SarahW (af7312)

  44. Absolutely, especially if they thought there was any possibility the threat was credible.

    That’s one vote yes. Anyone else?

    Maybe I should ask the question in a post.

    Patterico (135ea8)

  45. Patterico, if I had been the subject of a threat and someone else thought they were in contact with the issuer, I’d hope I’d be contacted as a courtesy if for no other reason,

    jeff (707f3d)

  46. Two votes yes!

    Patterico (135ea8)

  47. Hey, I have a question. If a blogger had been conversing with Alicia Pain, after Ace said he had taken this to the police, do you think said blogger should have let me and Ace in on it?

    Comment by Patterico — 6/26/2011

    Uh, yeah, that would be the responsible decent thing to do.

    Susie Q (653074)

  48. If there were no cats in the background of the call, it totally wasn’t Lee. I’m just sayin. :p

    PROVABLY FALSE!

    SarahW (af7312)

  49. How, pray tell, does she claim you communicated these death threats to her?

    Via instant messaging, email, phone conversation? A letter?

    Why does she think it was you? She can pick you out of a lineup? Does she recognize your voice? Or some random crank is using your name to send death threats?

    Daryl Herbert (71a64d)

  50. Three votes yes!

    Patterico (135ea8)

  51. Comment by Daryl Herbert — 6/26/2011

    Or, she’s a batsh!t loon.

    Susie Q (653074)

  52. Comment by Patterico — 6/26/2011

    Are we talking the Alicia Pain of the actual threats?

    Susie Q (653074)

  53. That’s one vote yes. Anyone else?

    I agree with all the ‘Yes’ votes.

    RB (382560)

  54. Please don’t speculate on my involvement in any of this, I just don’t care, but I’ll be here all week to answer any questions about my preference in catfood.

    Stranahan's Cat (707f3d)

  55. Susie Q:

    Yes.

    We now have four yes votes.

    The blogger is laughing in e-mail at me, and at the idea that he should have said something.

    Even though I keep telling him there are aspects to this of which he is unaware.

    He is basically daring me to do a post about it all.

    Which I wasn’t planning to. But now?

    Patterico (135ea8)

  56. Anyone else notice that everything has gone frm crazy to full Monty buff@cknutz ever since that vile crunchy tard Neal Rauhauser crawled out from under it’s rock? Coincidence?

    JD (318f81)

  57. Patterico, if that person is laughing at you, make that person famous. Do a post.

    Yeff (5cf143)

  58. He is basically daring me to do a post about it all.

    I would keep the trump cards you have until the right time and let Ace scorch him in the interim.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  59. Comment by Patterico — 6/26/2011

    Oh, you should do it, and name the blogger. No, don’t just name him/her. Show the emails.

    Susie Q (653074)

  60. Anyone else notice that everything has gone frm crazy to full Monty buff@cknutz ever since that vile crunchy tard Neal Rauhauser crawled out from under it’s rock? Coincidence?

    Comment by JD

    yep….

    coondawg68 (5fad4e)

  61. There will be a time to reveal it.

    Patterico (135ea8)

  62. @Susie Q, 52

    Remember that batsh!t crazy liberal professor that went absolutely nuts with Protein Wisdom a few years ago? There are some real weirdos out there.

    crosspatch (6adcc9)

  63. Mr. P–This is the same person you had a twitter argument with over the Alicia Pain “misunderstanding” last night and for which you received an “apology”. Yes?

    elissa (c3a242)

  64. Well, the emails were a threat. If the blogger knew of them and was complicent in any way, doesn’t that make them prosecutable?

    Susie Q (653074)

  65. There will be a time to reveal it.

    Could you hire Gennette to go to his blog and give a lot of vague, tangential answers to a fraction of his comments? She seems to have plenty of time on her hands and no steady income, I see the match.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  66. A Detective doing follow up on possible threats on a Sunday? Not likely.

    labcatcher (7c7733)

  67. Do the post – out the asshole blogger having a chuckle at you being threatened.

    Bret (493d93)

  68. OK time for a quick summary.

    This Jenny George that has filed the police report appears to be the one that called Lee from a blocked number, so how exactly could he contact her?

    I know that on his Blogtalk radio show, he mentioned that he had not found her phone number and that others had also been unable to find a number for her.

    Joe

    Joe Smith (54c0c1)

  69. kaiser- snort!

    And I vote……..YES!

    MayBee (081489)

  70. A Detective doing follow up on possible threats on a Sunday? Not likely.

    Comment by labcatcher — 6/26/2011

    You know, didn’t think of that. Wonder if Lee called wherever this so-called officer was from to find out if it was real.

    Susie Q (653074)

  71. Uh, yeah, that would be the responsible decent thing to do.

    Given all the sock puppetry, etc. involved here–would blogger X necessarily realize that the person they were in contact with was the same as “Alicia Pain”?

    JBS (5e4e0a)

  72. According to Vidal, Lincoln said how do I let this pig go?

    Let the pig go.

    In other words, when the weird get going, let them go. Weird ain’t normal.

    Ag80 (391f9a)

  73. According to Vidal, Lincoln said how do I let this pig go?

    Let the pig go.

    In other words, when the weird get going, let them go. Weird ain’t normal.

    Ag80 (391f9a)

  74. Given all the sock puppetry, etc. involved here–would blogger X necessarily realize that the person they were in contact with was the same as “Alicia Pain”?

    This is an excellent, point, except where the other party is mocking someone about it.

    JD (318f81)

  75. Yes

    Simon Jester (e88e65)

  76. Sorry for the double post, new computer.

    Ag80 (391f9a)

  77. Just when we all thought this story couldn’t get any weirder. eh?

    I got 5 bucks that says the ‘detective’ is a fake.

    But if she is not, (since we know the charges are bogus) she just outted herself.

    Paul (7d6791)

  78. Well clearly you are not part of the Obama recession if you can afford a new computer, Ag. Others here are struggling mightily with stuck and broken keys. 😉

    elissa (c3a242)

  79. Hey, I have a question. If a blogger had been conversing with Alicia Pain, after Ace said he had taken this to the police, do you think said blogger should have let me and Ace in on it?

    Of course they should have. That they didn’t, reveals all you need to know.

    As far as outing them now, you have more information than we and would therefore be more fully able to ascertain the possible unintended and long-term consequences, and/or wisdom in doing so.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  80. I got a kick out of reading this remark from the apparently uninvolved Jennifer George, to Jennifer Preston, that Ms. George posted on her website:

    “When you contacted me initially, you were deceptive and implied that you wanted to speak with me about a story on social networking. Is that part of the New York Times’ approach, to lie to people?”

    Very pity observation on Ms. Georges part. And I might add, not only is it part of the New York Times’ approach, to lie to people, it is also part of their approach to just make up stuff about people.

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  81. Given all the sock puppetry, etc. involved here–would blogger X necessarily realize that the person they were in contact with was the same as “Alicia Pain”?

    Comment by JBS — 6/26/2011 @ 8:19 pm

    If they were in email contact with Alicia, then yes, they probably would realize it.

    Though whether the contact should be revealed probably depends on what the contact was about. If this blogger (who is it, btw? Everyone seems to know already) just snarked to Alicia that they were a psycho and would be caught, it’s probably not worth much. But I don’t think Patterico would even mention it unless there was more than that.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  82. Was counting and I think you missed a yes, maybe mine. You can count mine twice if he is gleeful about it.

    Sarahw (af7312)

  83. 35. Patterico

    Of course

    koam (7c1f46)

  84. Comment by JD — 6/26/2011 @ 8:21 pm
    I didn’t see Patterico’s comment to that effect until after I posted my comment.

    JBS (a6ffde)

  85. @joe #69…

    While ti is true there are MULTIPLE posts and comments on his radio show where he did not have her contact information, to the best of my knowledge, all those were done BEFORE he learned who she was and where she lived. (the city at least)

    So in theory some time in the last 48 hours he could have tracked her down.

    FOR THE RECORD… I 1000% believe the charges are bogus and in fact I doubt the ‘detective’ is even real (see my post above) but nonetheless, it could be argued he had time to track her down.

    Paul (7d6791)

  86. I wasn’t trying to be a smartass, JBS. Sorry if it came across that way.

    JD (318f81)

  87. Dustin – for suspects #1 and #2, check out Patterico’s twitter feed for the last 2 days.

    Bret (493d93)

  88. And btw, I vote Yes,

    JBS (a6ffde)

  89. Why is it a question? Of course they should have told you.

    cap'n john's nephew (d29614)

  90. The detective is not fake, folks.

    Patterico (135ea8)

  91. Comment by JD — 6/26/2011 @ 8:21 pm
    No need to apologize. A little confusion is par for the course in this case, it seems.

    JBS (a6ffde)

  92. Patterico, if the blogger knew who it was that made the threats isn’t he/she complicent in it?

    Susie Q (653074)

  93. Some possibly related tweets from Stranahan just now, I wonder if this relates to the blogger that knew about Alicia Pain and said nothing. Tommy Christofer maybe?

    Stranahan Lee Stranahan

    And I think some of the end game moves here by people calling themselves liberal are contemptible. But I’m keeping them in my prayers.

    Stranahan Lee Stranahan

    Another result of this; I really reject liberalism completely. I think a lot of people are misguided by it. False preaching of concern.

    Kaisersoze (c86eb0)

  94. My guess is not TC. Look at Patterico’s twitter right now – who’s he going back and forth with (and I’m not talking about Lee). Its been like this for most of the weekend with this guy.

    Bret (493d93)

  95. 35.

    Perhaps a blogger who wrote this to Alicia Pain:

    “That I will do, including fighting any legal action to compel me to divulge my source. There is a foundation that would support me in that cause. . . .”

    “We are ultimately, the sum of our actions. If you’ve done something for which you feel guilty, the best course is confession and amends, at least that’s my personal experience. As presented, that is what this would represent within a reasonable form. So, it’s up to you. It certainly has been an interesting exchange. If you’d like to go forward, please let me know. I will live up to my end of the bargain, such as it is. Thank you.”

    “Once I received the information, this email trail would be deleted and, as far as I am concerned, you would not exist.”

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  96. lamchops – I think you’ve got it. I hadn’t made that connection yet. How do you think those quotes would have made their way back to Patterico?

    Bret (493d93)

  97. Ronbryn is kind of a poofter beeyotch, no? Is he the one that declared herself a Weiner expert?

    JD (318f81)

  98. The second message Patterico posted last nite ended with the apparent statement by Patterico, “Yes, I have the rest. She may be telling you I don’t. But I do.”

    I think that for some reason Alicia Pain related the conversation she had with the blogger back to Paterrico.

    I think that as a result of Paterrico’s gambit last nite, the blogger contacted him as he wanted- that’s why Paterrico didn’t have to post any more quotes.

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  99. One possible hypothesis is that the blogger was trying to blackmail Alicia pain into getting “The information” with a quid pro quo that if he did, he would not reveal Alicia Pain’s identity (I am assuming the blogger considered Pain’s threats against Ace and Patterico a crime). Alicia Pain on the other hand seemed to believe that her statements to Ace and Patterico were not criminal, so she may have threatened some sort of legal action against the blogger, to which he claimed, “There is a foundation that would support me in that cause. . . .”

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  100. I need you to be my brave little marine

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  101. lamchops, I think, if you’re right about this email being related to Alicia (and my guess is you’re right), that the ‘a foundation will help me defend against legal threats’ is simply this blogger or journalist trying to convince Alicia s/he would remain anonymous come hell or high water.

    Which, frankly, is awful. I don’t know what the law is, but morally, that’s awful. Patterico and Ace’s families get to live with wondering who the hell threatened them, in exchange for some curious journalist having a big score?

    That crosses the line. I know learning who is behind all this crap would be a hell of a score for a journalist, but you’d have to be a piece of garbage to even contemplate this kind of deal.

    Dustin (c16eca)

  102. So where did the threat come from, one could easily see, it doesn’t match any of your websites, this seems on par with the slur against Prosser,

    ian cormac (72470d)

  103. You guys should head over to this thread right now. JohnReid9 is currently awaiting more questions. I am chatting with him right now and he is awaiting questions.

    Your chance to ask about Jenny George, Weiner, Alicia Pain, or whoever.

    Go.

    Patterico (135ea8)

  104. Ronbryn is kind of a poofter beeyotch, no?

    Wasn’t he editor of Raw Story back during the plamegate days when they broke the huge story of the pending 27 indictments against Karl Rove ? (Which, of course, never actually happened).

    And then instead of admitting they were wrong, they said something like “we got ahead of the news cycle”. Whatever that was supposed to mean. That was some mighty fine “journalism” there.

    piglet (29770b)

  105. Yeah, piglet, a paragon of JournoListic virtue, he is.

    JD (318f81)

  106. 105. piglet

    Yeah, I remember that misstep by the MSM when they went with that Rove indictment story based on some low level news source. What a huge embarrassment. Was that Ronbryn behind it? If so he certainly burned a lot of journalistic bridges with that fake story. Even with loony leftist politics, it’s hard to imagine he’ll ever get a job in the news business again.

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  107. 102. Dustin

    Now that I think about it, I think you are closer to the correct interpretation of this statement:

    “That I will do, including fighting any legal action to compel me to divulge my source. There is a foundation that would support me in that cause. . . .”

    The blogger (possibly Ronbyrn?) appears to be reassuring Alicia Pain (?) that he will won’t reveal that she is the source of the information she gives him, and he will fight any legal action and use said foundation to prevent being forced to reveal her as his source.

    lamchops (a91fe8)

  108. Who is she talking about here?

    “The 10 or so people who are fervently speculating about this matter online seem to be caught up in some sort of mass hysteria or groupthink, and are veering into potential vigilantism. “

    stone (e92687)

  109. Wow. Listening to the show. “It’s over Jenny, journalists are on their way to your town now…”.
    I’m so curious to find out where in MA she is. Amherst? Cambridge? My own beloved Central MA?

    Lincolntf (85daa5)

  110. I’m so curious to find out where in MA she is. Amherst? Cambridge? My own beloved Central MA?

    There was a good opportunity for a Reveah joke here, but I decided against it 😀

    RB (064bd8)

  111. When I made a comment that I thought the Preston reach out to JG (published by JG) was disingenuously phrased and that it would likely result in less than full candor when JG realized the real reason for the contact (was not the flattery and pretense it was cloaked in), I got a lot of responses that JP’s approach was just fine. I don’t really know much about how “real reporting” gets done, but it felt like commenters were giving me a lesson and addressing my naivete, re: Journalism.

    But I think JG confirmed that she felt the same way with her recently published comments. I continue to feel badly for her. An innocent bystander.

    Note to futureparents: avoid giving your kids common first names if you have a common last name. Change it up.

    koam (7c1f46)

  112. jeffeneff Jeff Rey
    @
    @ronbryn Why would Preston drop you over a beef she supposedly has with Stranahan?
    1 hour ago
    in reply to ↑

    @ronbryn
    Ron Brynaert
    @jeffeneff She’s afraid of a lawsuit from someone in California. I’m not even sure she’s still working this story because of @stranahan
    41 minutes ago via web

    http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html#2011-06-27_Update

    UPDATE, JUNE 27, 2011: NEW CORRESPONDENCE:

    from Preston, Jennifer jepresto@nytimes.com
    to Jennifer George
    date Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:05 AM
    subject RE: New York Times reporter
    mailed-by nytimes.com

    Hi Jennifer,
    I was at home this weekend and did not have your phone number, which is at my office. Hence, my email. So, I see now that you have posted my response on Twitter on your site that you are not part of any story that I was or am working on. I was puzzled why you were contacting me on Twitter when days ago ago I told you I am not working on any story that has anything to do with you.It did not make sense until I saw your IM w/Lee Stranahan. I can not speak for Mr. Stranahan or these other people who are recklessly speculating online with information that they are getting from sock puppets. I have had my own problems with people invoking my name, falsely claiming I have said this and that. And I have made it clear to all of these people not to use my name again.
    I admire your approach of posting your correspondence. It certainly allowed me to see how people were spreading lies in my name. I will be formally taking care of this matter this morning. Thank you. Jennifer

    Jennifer Preston
    Staff Writer
    The New York Times
    212-556-4472
    jepresto@nytimes.com
    Twitter.com/nyt_jenpreston

    >>>>>>>>>>

    from Jennifer George jennifer.e.george@gmail.com
    from Preston, Jennifer jepresto@nytimes.com
    date Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:38 AM

    Jennifer:

    Just a few points from me and then I would prefer that we not limit this conversation to my website.

    – If you have anything further to say about me, or to me, do it in some other public forum, in complete sentences.

    – I’m not going to be your forum for damage control and I reserve the right to not publish any future communications from you.

    – I publicly Tweeted @ThePublicEditor, the NYT “readers’ representative”, about this matter and have not received a response.

    – I have no comment at this time about your characterizations of our phone conversation.

    Jennifer George
    http://www.jennifergeorge.com

    >>>>>>>>>>

    UPDATE, JUNE 28, 2011: NEW CORRESPONDENCE:

    June 27, 2011

    Google Talk/IM chat attempted by someone claiming to be “Lee Stranahan” (stranahan@gmail.com). I did not respond.

    6:40 PM
    Lee: Hi. Hopefully, you’ve seen that I’ve tried to be as clear as possible that 1) I don’t think you have anything to do with the story and 2) that you are no the Jenny George in Massachusetts who is clearly connected to the story

    6:41 PM
    Lee: But if there’s anything else I can do to clarify, please let me know,

    http://www.jennifergeorge.com/weiner.html#2011-06-28_Update

    koam (62b38e)


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