Weinergate: Is the Police Investigation in Delaware Closed or Not?
They said it was. And yet, a FoxNews.com story dated today says:
His decision to seek treatment followed his acknowledgement that he had exchanged online messages with a 17-year-old girl in Delaware, first revealed by FoxNews.com. Weiner and the girl’s family attorney said nothing improper had passed between the two of them. Police sources told FoxNews.com that computer forensics experts are reviewing the exchanges.
They “are reviewing the exchanges”?
How long does it take to review two innocent direct messages?
The girl’s mother, whose name is being withheld, told The Post Wednesday that Weiner sent nothing obscene — and sent only two brief messages to her daughter about seeing him during an April school trip to the Capitol.
I mean five.
Representative Anthony D. Weiner said on Friday that he exchanged at least five private messages on Twitter this spring with a 17-year-old Delaware girl who became an admirer of his after hearing him speak during a high school trip to Washington.
Let’s hope they spend more time reviewing the messages than they did figuring out the difference between five and two.
P.S. The fact that he exchanged online messages with a 17-year-old was not first revealed by Fox News. That’s just how they rewrite history. Like, did you know the line is “I came back strong. Large. In charge. Tights and cape shit”? The words “in charge” and “shit” have been written out of the history books, just like the identity of the blog that actually revealed all this.
So it is written. And so it must be.
Oh, hey. Just one more thing. How many women did Weiner admit to having exchanges with?
And how many have come forward? And admitted sexual exchanges?
Just asking.
Oops. Well, virtually, oops.
Good stuff, Patterico.
carlitos (25ee92) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:05 amPatrick
how many online paramours?
ginger lee, the big gov girl that gave breitbart the weinerpic, the blackjack dealer, and the one outted by a friend in georgia.
so we are up to 4.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:10 amHuma comes home tomorrow.
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:14 amPerhaps the forensics experts are looking for the messages she deleted?
Victoria (09836a) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:14 amhappy allegedly because of the ash over africa. but you have to wonder…
Let me suggest that if you find a severed ahem… member, that you check it against the pictures to see if it is Weiner’s.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:18 amI am counting on the National Enquirer to weigh in with some fresh reporting very soon……
Victoria (09836a) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:25 amNone of the 4 were before his marriage, although he said most of the six happened before he was married.
Imagine that.
Victoria- I’m not counting on the NE. Historically they’ve been very Clinton-friendly.
MayBee (081489) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:32 amMayBee- However, the Enquirer was nominated for a Pulitzer for exposing the John Edwards scandal.
Victoria (09836a) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:39 amThe only online statement I have seen quoted from the police said “investigators have concluded their probe and don’t plan any further comment ‘unless something new arises that needs their attention'”. Perhaps there was something new…?
I also wonder if the investigation may have been handed over to other departments that might be more appropriate due to the circumstances. Do police departments usually have “computer forensics experts”?
Sue (24e46b) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:43 amAce said he would be asking police in Delaware specific questions about any attempts to retrieve or review Twitter/phone archives.
I wonder if he did and if he got any answer.
SarahW (af7312) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:47 amYes, many police departments have computer forensics experts.
Victoria (09836a) — 6/14/2011 @ 8:48 amAs an pretty darned ‘experienced” woman, I am sticking to my earlier prediction….This man did NOT just start this, he claimed that he had 6 women from before his marriage, yet these 4 that have come forward thus far, are women/girl that he has been sexting with over the past few months (during his marriage) He is a pervert and there are many many more women/girls out there…. too bad for him that he most likely has NO idea WHO or WHERE they are… and I am certain their photos and stories will be sold to the highest bidder…. and will come forward.. Yep, my women’s intuition is ‘feeling’ a Tiger Woods event in the future for the Weener! LOL… Thus he is hiding “IN Treatment”…
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:03 amThe people involved in Weinergate clearly need to work on their gazintas. Jethro will be holding a tutorial by the cement pond at 1:00 p.m.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:15 amGazintas! I had to explain that to colleagues at work, which sort of loses “teh funny” with regard to the remark. G_d, I’m getting old.
∅ (e7577d) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:25 amWe need a double naught spy to get to the bottom of this!
daley- ha ha ha!
MayBee (081489) — 6/14/2011 @ 9:42 amIt will take as long as it takes for 1. Weiner to get the message to hit the road forthwith and 2. the quid pro quo of Biden then telling the Delaware police to call off the dogs.
Bugg (9e308e) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:04 amYou know, if Weiner weren’t a congressman at all… if he were merely school teacher or a truck driver, this would still be newsworthy.
It would be interesting how he used twitter, how he covered it up, how he convinced many to blame the person who exposed him. The cheating angle would matter much less, since he’s not in a position of trust or power, but once we realized there was a minor involved, we’d really want to know more about how he covered it up, and if it’s going to be possible to catch such crimes.
If you can effectively escape from justice thanks to how twitter works, that too is very newsworthy. Those who assisted are also newsworthy.
And yet we keep hearing that this is not newsworthy despite this interesting story pertaining to a powerful congressman who has been in the news many times before. That that’s because democrats are little bit above the law.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:08 amWay too much focus on risque Tweets and emails and the very real possibility of completely overlooking the manifold opportunities for Weiner to interact one-on-one with his admirers looms large.
Since his wife was often occupied with Hillary and thus unavailable, Weiner had plenty of time and opportunity to match up with his obvious inclinations.
Shouldn’t some interested party be looking beyond Weiner’s digital activities and rather closely at his actual behavior? Does anyone really think a personality like Weiner’s could be content with distant hints and fuzzy reflections when the very real pleasures of the flesh are so many and so invitingly available?
ropelight (50182a) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:10 amI have a sneaky feeling it’s going to be even more newsworthy when Huma gets home.
The more I think about this the more I think it’s obvious that Huma’s been distancing herself from this mess. She’s being painted in the media as a trouper and a pro traveling abroad with Hillary in the midst of a personal crisis. But if Huma had really felt she needed to stay home, or wanted to rush home to comfort Anthony and help him get through this, Hillary would certainly have understood and excused her from the trip.
Although Huma and Hillary are friends, people who try to draw conclusions about Hillary having stood by her horndog hubby and then use that as a template that of course Huma will decide to too, are wrong I think. Hillary, after all, was married to the President of the United States and had been with him for two decades. Along with concern for daughter Chelsea, being part of a presidential family carried perks for life no matter how successful one may be in one’s own right. Huma, on the other hand, has been married to a 3rd rate congressmen with no other discernible skills and now a bleak political future for less than one year. You do the math.
elissa (5136ab) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:22 amelissa, you’re right. Hillary staying with the US President actually is a hell of a lot different from anyone staying with Weiner.
In many ways intrinsic to Hillary and extrinsic to her.
And 20 year marriage is different from a newlywed guy sexting floozies as he fires up the computer as soon as he’s home from the honeymoon.
But I’m not sure if Huma will or can do anything to develop the case.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:25 amBut … Ace told us the investigation was all over and we were stupid for thinking about it; that there’s only a 1-in-100,000 chance there’s anything to this part of the Weiner story about the underaged girl.
So, how can this be!?!
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:37 amMaybe it’s just me, but I’m not seein’ Huma dragging old notorious Tony to formal State Department dinners after he has humiliated and embarrassed her by his time in the spotlight– and now that the whole darn world has actually seen him posing in his birthday suit.
elissa (5136ab) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:39 amRandom, is that really what Ace said?
I think Ace has been largely very prescient about this. I’m not sure what the twittering crap was all about, but I can imagine, from his comments section, some of his commenters were overwhelming.
And while it’s not Ace’s right to order them to shut up or to ‘pull rank’, he probably had a point.
You might be exaggerating what he said, there. I could be wrong, but I thought he was saying we should be realistic. At most stages of this, Ace’s realistic take on Weiner’s reactions and what probably happened made him a much better source than most. And he’s been covering this when others won’t.
Does every musing he makes have to be perfect to prevent someone from taking what he said to an extreme degree and holding that against him? I can think of no one who’s been more reliable on this than Ace. He was much better than Stranahan or others who were also largely good on this issue.
He’s just spitting out his opinions, though, so don’t get your panties too bunched up.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:43 am“I have a sneaky feeling it’s going to be even more newsworthy when Huma gets home.”
elissa – Prolly so.
Anthony to Huma – Honey, I have needs.
Huma to Anthony – Here’s what I think about your needs (frying pan meets face)!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:45 amI think elissa’s got a point.
She may have loved Weiner, but I suspect power was also involved.
Weiner’s power is shot! And the love will have been damaged by his hitting on porn stars and police investigating his messages with an under the age of consent girl, whatever comes of that.
With him sending photos of his penis to a bunch of younger women than Huma, and posing nude in the Congressional Gym, which has GOT to P.O. pretty much everyone in Congress … well, it all adds up to a divorce, I’m guessing.
The exception might be if, as is the case in many relationships, 100% unswerving monogamy was NOT the expectation. I see nothing wrong with a couple making that decision. YMMV.
However, I simply cannot see Huma being so stupid as to say, “Sure, you can TWITTER-cyber a bunch of girls, including porn stars and maybe underage girls as well. And why not send them photos of you, naked, in places easily associated with Congress while you’re at it.”
She, if she tolerated his playing a bit, would have demanded the same degree of discretion most women can provide in affairs. Of course, men suck at this ….
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:47 amIn today’s world, it’s hard to expect much from people. I think a marriage should be an exclusive sexual relationship. If you don’t want that, why get married? It’s sad that people overlook how important to society this kind of thing really is.
100% of the societal benefits of gay marriage are gone as soon as some gays roll their eyes at exclusivity. There is literally zero point to a marriage that isn’t.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:54 amAce is my favourite ever political blogger, Dustin, if only for humor alone. But not just that. His smart and rational and doesn’t buy into the cool-aid too much, or unreasonable optimism, or wishful magical thinking, which is EXCEEDINGLY common (humans have natural biases toward these things, as numerous psychological studies demonstrate).
Ace also jumps to conclusions too quickly sometimes. I think this was one of those times.
ESPECIALLY when a CA ADA in his comment section named Raquel was pointing out that, in her office, decisions involving cases affecting minors were routinely passed on to the ADAs office after police “concluded” their investigations, so that the ADA’s office could make the final call:
1. Drop it.
2. Charge.
3. Refer back to police for further investigation, or to investigators employed by the ADA.
Raquel, the ADA (and she said what county she worked for: I think she was legit) emphatically said she has no particular insight into DE prosecution offices’ admin procedures, but cautioned Ace that, as a general matter, something like that could easily have happened. And Aaron on this blog posted on how “weirdly tight-lipped” the Newcastle Police statement was.
So, my point is to poke a bit of fun at Ace for being so quick to dismiss this. I’m hoping he’ll comment on this post of Patterico’s, even though Ace is I think a bit over the top fearful of his potential liability in this case.
Yeah, speculating about the private citizen undereage girl in general could be problematic, and Patterico has the guts to do so, but also possibly enough info to reasonably convince him he’s on solid ground. But even if Ace doesn’t have anything like that same certainty, no one is going to sue him just because he or a commenter point out that, “Wait: maybe the investigation is still ongoing?”
But Ace is the best of the best, overall, so if I’m knocking him, it’s only on this
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 10:59 amOK. Fair enough.
Everyone was wrong to some degree on this. At least Ace largely surrounded his guesses with ‘this is my guess based on these factors’. And he was more right more of the time than anyone I can think of.
But anyway, it’s not like he’s perfect.
Yeah, there was a period where Ace was trying to shut down a certain line of speculation, and I don’t really think Patterico was doing worse than carefully drawing inferences (Which sure, some Ace commenters would do, but many wouldn’t).
It’s just a moderation call. And the only harm is that in a day or two the rules could be relaxed. I just don’t see Ace being anything but good faith and careful on this.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:03 amBut Ace was planning to follow up and ask if there had been any push to retrieve archived conversations in addition to data about them remaining on computer/phones of the persons involved.
Whatever odds he calculated of the Deleware investigation revealing serious impropriety, or how much faith he might have in the ability of police to do their jobs, he was going to attempt to verify with a pointed follow-up. If he did I am not sure they would tell him anything at all, but just asking is more than I’d hoped for.
SarahW (af7312) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:06 amI don’t know. Ask all of the politically powerful and wealthy men in the Old Testament who married more than one woman. I think loving one woman best, and being attracted to others to the point of actually wanting to be with them physically, and then competing over mates, is the natural mating pattern for our species where males are concerned. I believe this is an evolved, natural system, and most societies in human history have been at least mildly polygamous according to anthropologists.
This all changed when the legally monogamous Pagan Romans conquered the ancestral Jewish homelands (they were polygamous) among others — and through the Roman Empire and later Roman Catholic Church/Christianity, spread their sense of morality throughout the world.
So I think marriage between one man and one woman can be a beautiful thing … I also think it isn’t for everybody, and I don’t believe people’s natural instincts are “wrong”.
I believe that 100 percent sexual monogamy has never been found in any mammalian species tested, and not even lifelong pair-bonding bird species. There’s always exceptions.
These exceptions, where the more powerful and successful males, mate with more than their share of the females, and the less successful males lose out on mating opportunities, overall raise the genetic quality of the species at large. IF we had been a completely monogamous species (and human behavior and history both show we aren’t), then there would be no one here to debate this subject. We would have been sexually outcompeted by the other hominid lines long ago, if we even got that far in evolution, which is highly dubious.
There would, indeed, be no one here to even talk about whether monogamy was necessary in all cases. We’d have died out. There wouldn’t even be any priests or nuns! No innocent children.
No one.
YMMV, but that’s my view, and I think it’s a reasonable scientific one.
I ALSO don’t think those who crave to be with more than one person are bad and evil. They should be honest about it, though, to their spouse and partners, if any.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:08 amBut if he did so, Sarah, he hasn’t reported on it
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:10 amI had a detailed comment touching on your last comment to me, Dustin, and I wish it has made it through the moderation filter, but alas, it did not.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:19 amNo worried, Random. I’ll check back later and it’ll probably be back up.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:23 amI just can’t help it. The mental picture of a contrite, pleading, sweet talking Anthony Weiner saying something like “Please honey, I’m sorry, don’t leave me. I need you. I love you.” And Huma clocking him with a cast iron grill pan is just too precious for words. “Honey, give me a minute, I’ll fix us some lunch and we can talk” BAM.
f1guyus (2a84e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:40 amHas anyone ever figured out how they knew in advance this was going to come out? It does not make sense to me since the dick.jpg was accidentally sent.
SusanT (355042) — 6/14/2011 @ 11:45 amRandom at #27 is correct in his recap of Raquel’s post.
The police investigation is the first phase of a case like this, and just because they are “done” doesn’t mean nothing will happen.
Re computer forensics work, I’m pretty confident this computer wasn’t the only one the experts had to work on. That is a growing and under-resourced area of police forensics work. This case has to get in line. The circumstances are such that there isn’t really any sense of urgency attached to this case. Whether the techs are able to recover deleted DMs next week or next month doesn’t really change the facts.
And the prosecutor’s office isn’t going to act until all the evidence is in front of them — otherwise you end up looking like Mike Nifong.
shipwreckedcrew (bafbcb) — 6/14/2011 @ 12:48 pmDoes anyone know WHO sent the 11 gym photos to TMZ?? are they from ONE of the women we already now about or someone new? Are they from one person or more than one person??
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 12:49 pmAlso, I am sticking to my tried and true womanly intuition… There are many more women/girls of any age… still to come. this guy was FAR too indiscriminate in sending unsolicited dic pics to have this be the end of his folly… There are women out there embarrassed to come forward, some making deals with The Sun or Enquirer or TMZ for cash… and there are some maybe trying to figure out HOW to present this to their parents…
As the mother of a college age student, I cannot imagine my own reaction to learn that a congressman was sending dic-pics to my kid! AND.. IT would be costly for someone…. IF I found out… LOL … my mind cannot even go to the mom of the 17 year olds involved with this pervert who was obviously grooming this dirty-talking school girl… he may not have sent her obscene pics like her mom says, but HER dirty mouth reeled him in like a big ol’ tuna fish! Nothing any mom could feel proud of…
Hargoosh- Good point. TMZ has not told us where they got those photos.
MayBee (081489) — 6/14/2011 @ 1:49 pmThey are the ones who have been talking to Ginger Lee, no?
Oh! At the Daily Beast, Peter Beinart calls Weiner’s actions “consensual”. Just as Ben Smith did.
But Gennette Cordova has never said she consented to having that photo sent, and denies she said anything inappropriate.
That seems non-consensual to me.
MayBee (081489) — 6/14/2011 @ 1:51 pmMayBee – the abject dishonesty from the MFM continues apace. They did not even break stride.
JD (29e1cd) — 6/14/2011 @ 1:58 pmThe “consensual” defense is so faux. The mere fact that the married congressman’s lewd photos were out there en masse– and in the possession of several women who now are happily exploiting them for cash– only proves how dangerous the photos and tweets were. What a vulnerable position Weiner put himself in. Had the women sold them to some entity other than a tabloid –an entity which might have had motive to buy Weiner’s vote in congress– what better way would there have been than to blackmail him. This meltdown was always just a matter of time.
If Beinart and Ben Smith can’t see this themselves, or think that others don’t see it, they are fools whose insight on absolutely everything else is also suspect.
elissa (5136ab) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:14 pmConsensual??? she would have had to either ask or send one of herself first… she claims she never saw it.. never asked for it, and as a consequence in saying that IT WAS NOT CONSENSUAL… how could it be? There is a big missing part of this story. BUT I want to know WHO sent those pics to TMZ??? yes, Ginger Lee was talking with TMZ but they did not mention WHO sent them in, I found that an interesting omission and somewhat wide open for more to come..hell at this point, the MSM could be paying for future photos just to keep them away from the public and to save da Weener!! LOL
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:14 pmI don’t know about you, but I sure as hell didn’t consent to Weiner putting all this garbage on the internet.
He made the world an uglier nastier place. He polluted the minds of a lot of young women with this garbage. Instead of homework, they were talking about gagging on penises and using honey mustard for God knows what.
The world speaks together in not consenting to that. If Weiner had some discretion and didn’t try to smear the messenger of truth, this wouldn’t be much of an issue.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:21 pmelissa, the “consensual” defense I was making had nothing to do with political reality.
If Weiner had valid consent (from adults naturally, the only valid form), then:
1. He committed no sex crimes.
2. IF his wife is one of the small but not insignificant minority who is OK with that, then he didn’t violate the terms of his marriage as the two understood them.
2 is pure speculation, and isn’t even my best guess. I’m just saying. Further, I’m sure even if hypothetically his wife allowed that, she wouldn’t want him to have been so phenomenally stupid.
Regardless of 1 or 2, politically it’s embarrassing as all heck and not viable within American culture.
I PERSONALLY have no problems with him having consensual relationships with adults, but I can see where his wife would. Also, if he lied to her so profoundly, put her in this embarrassing position, and was so massively reckless with his political future, jeapordizing his party’s prospects, and the (misguided) causes he cared for, and opening himself up to blackmale and ridicule … then that bad judgment alone shows he’s not cut out to serve in Congress.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:34 pmTrue that Dustin!!! and IF this guy had not had such an obnoxious big blabber mouth while on TV and the floor of congress, but rather have been leaning more toward the ‘normal’ side of life, people would not be enjoying him getting his come-up-ence… LOL.
He needs to be silenced and he needs to be removed from his position of power as a congressman, for the sake of the entire country.
He is a total narcissist that was SO INTO himself and his peter that he got totally stupid online… LOL… there is NO cure for Stupid… but it can be removed in his case.
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:37 pmGee. I hope my last typo wasn’t Freudian, since I am devotedly hetero. 😉
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:38 pmHargoosh, you’re on to something, and to a big degree, this is probably just his natural jerkishness.
But — pure speculation — there is another partial explanation others have proposed that makes sense to me.
Steroids.
He’s a small man, what one would call a hard gainer, probably, in bodybuilding terms. Yet he clearly looks after his fitness, to his credit.
He’s quite muscular and defined for a small man.
He also is hyperaggressive and hyper sexual — and he’s 46!
Steroids are essentially testosterone deriatives and cause similar psychological symptoms, including making men feel good about themselves, powerful, invincible … aggressive … and very sexual.
I don’t have any way of knowing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a part of both Weiner’s personality and physique came from steroid use. If so, he’s still responsible. No one would have forced them on him.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:43 pmOh Random, I was not responding to your earlier post, the content of which I mostly agreed with. Sorry I was not clear about that. My #40 was what I thought after I read the word consensual in MayBee’s #38 concerning the usuual suspects trying to protect their guy.
elissa (5136ab) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:48 pmThanks for clarifying, Elissa.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 2:49 pmRandom, the steroids is an option… and a partial explanation.. Was he on the Barry Bonds hearing??? LOL maybe he will end up being even a bigger hypocrite! LOL
He definitely has a “little man complex” and by the dic pic the shaft to go along with his body size.. just sayin’. … yep, this can lead a man to act totally stupid! I have witnessed this personally throughout my years! LOL
But now that Huma is homeward bound, he may need other medication… after that fry pan meets his face! Hopefully those pain drugs will not counter effect his steroids, IF that is his problem! LOL
There is however, just NO excuse for a sitting Congressman to allow himself to be in this position, think if Israel, China or Russia wanted to blackmail this guy for ANY information he has (had) access to, how easy to do so… this is a huge concern… they don’t get any easier than a Weiner to blackmail, IF this was his habitual behavior online…. just sayin’…. Think of the National security ramifications…. he would have sold us out to save his ass….
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 3:55 pmIt will take as long as it takes for:
Jocuri (433d8a) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:00 pma. Weiner to get the message to hit the road forthwith
b. the quid pro quo of Biden then telling the Delaware police to call off the dogs.
“Oh! At the Daily Beast, Peter Beinart calls Weiner’s actions “consensual”. Just as Ben Smith did.”
MayBee – As in “Anthony, please send me a picture of your penis?”
or
Did he have a box on his website that said check here to receive a picture of Anthony’s junk?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:10 pmto quote my Grandmother… This country is going to hell in a handjob, I mean… hand basket! LOL, to think we are paying this pervert nearly $500 a day to send out crotch shots to high schoolers and porn stars… I can think of better ways to spend our money……
Hargoosh (d0e9bc) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:22 pmI trust your expertise and experience on the subject.
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:25 pmHmmm. That’s not such a bad guess. I’ll trust your expertise and experience on the subject. 🙂
Anyway, I think the law on this is very easy to live with.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:27 pmlol
Random (662312) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:32 pmAnd 20 year marriage is different from a newlywed guy sexting floozies as he fires up the computer as soon as he’s home from the honeymoon.
Not only is a 20 year marriage different than one less than a year, Hillary had her own political ambitions and Bill’s position and influence was a major help in pushing her forward. I think no matter how much she hated him, she was going to fight long and hard to keep him useful to her.
Huma has no political ambitions and certainly her husband is not necessary in that way. However, he is the father of her baby. What an awful situation for her. Either way.
Dana (4eca6e) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:49 pmYeah, it’s awful. And I wonder how Huma feels about the women falling over themselves to forgive Weiner for what he admits was deception against his wife, and thus infidelity.
That’s the problem. Can Huma trust Weiner, a kid in a candy store? Some women are probably MORE likely to offer themselves to him.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 4:57 pm==Can Huma trust Weiner==
Just a wild guess here—but I’d guess no.
elissa (5136ab) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:02 pmDustin,
The thing is, will Weiner come completely clean with Huma – I mean with everything, no holds barred?
She has a right to know precisely what and who she is married to before deciding whether or not to forgive him and do the hard work of rebuilding, or to walk. Unless he is an open book with her in every detail, he leaves the door cracked open just enough to slip back through. That’s what addicts who love their drug of choice more than anything else typically do…manipulate, sneak, rationalize, and tell themselves they don’t want to hurt the person any more so therefore not everything needs to be confessed.
Dana (4eca6e) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:04 pmHuma Weiner
C’mon. That is funny.
JD (318f81) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:05 pmLOL
Why did I even ask that?
Anyhow, yes Dana, she’s entitled. She’s got a child coming, and though some have acted like she’s a cold hearted lesbian in a strategic marriage, I bet she’s devastated and worried about her child’s future. That’s a dangerous situation, given pro-choice politics, but she’s a devout Muslim, reportedly, so I’m thinking she intends to have the child. I can’t help but feel sorry for her situation.
Dustin (c16eca) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:28 pm“She has a right to know precisely what and who she is married to before deciding whether or not to forgive him and do the hard work of rebuilding, or to walk.”
Dana – When she gets out of the kitchen, she should kick him to the curb!
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:48 pmWeiner should resign?
Heck no let him be the face of the democrap maoist party.
DohBiden (15aa57) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:49 pmWhen she gets out of the kitchen, she should kick him to the curb!
…let’s hope she leaves the butcher knife on the counter, though….
Dana (4eca6e) — 6/14/2011 @ 5:52 pm