Against All Odds, the Weiner Saga Gets Worse (and Better) (Update: A Fourth/Fifth Woman and Two Female Perspectives on the Weiss Transcript) (Further Update: Sexting One Month After Wedding?!) (Further Update: Cordova Speaks, Withholds Evidence)
[Guest post by Aaron Worthing; if you have tips, please send them here. Or by Twitter @AaronWorthing.]
Update: Ace points out that the new woman was apparently being tweeted around a month after he got married. Un-fraking-believable. Was he sexting during the honeymoon, too?
Update: Gennette Cordova talks to the NY Times, proclaiming how innocent her exchange was and gosh that Weinerpic just came out of the blue! But there is really only one line you need to read in that piece.
Ms. Cordova provided a portion of her communications with Mr. Weiner to The Times, in which they messaged back and forth about the online detractors and their tactics. But Ms. Cordova would not make all of her interaction with him available for review.
“I have not sent him any suggestive messages,” Ms. Cordova said.
The original post follows.
All throughout this I kept thinking, “well, thank God he doesn’t have any children.” It’s tough enough on the kids to have daddy cheating on mommy, but for it all to be a national punchline…? Oy vey. And I honestly thought it would make it easier for her to leave him, since he was obviously not particularly interested in honoring his wedding vows.
And well, that isn’t going to be true much longer. The New York Times reports that Huma Abedin is pregnant:
Ms. Abedin, 35, is in the early stages of pregnancy, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.
The pregnancy, which the couple has disclosed to close friends and family, adds a new dimension to questions about the future of their marriage.
Yeah, no kidding.
Of course we should rejoice in every life brought into this earth, but what is this child going to face, now. If there is any silver lining (besides the miracle of life itself) it is that maybe it will make Weiner finally take his marriage and his wedding vows seriously. Maybe he will rise to the occasion. We can hope.
And we can hope for the health of their unborn child and that the child doesn’t get too much crud about what daddy did.
if it were up to Traci Nobles of Athens, Ga., her contact with Weiner would have stayed a secret.
“I really regret that this was sent to you,” Nobles told the Las Vegas Sun, after confirming that an unnamed roommate went into her Facebook account, which had been inadvertently left open, and emailed the Sun a screen shot of a private conversation between Weiner and Nobles that appears to date from August. “She thought someone should know,” Nobles said.
Given the extent of the congressman’s flirtatious speech and physical details that have been made public, there’s little from the brief excerpt of the Nobles-Weiner conversation that could shock us. The bit of the conversation that was made available to the Sun shows the two exchanging terms of endearment such as “sexy” and “sugar” and arranging some sort of meeting for the next day — although it’s not clear from what’s presented whether it’s a meeting that was to take place online or in person.
And of course she fits the pattern of being a woman who publicly lusted for him:
Despite her reticence to reveal her private contact with Weiner, she’s not been shy about sharing her affection for the congressman publicly in the past.
She’s posted suggestive messages on his public campaign site several times, requesting right after the midterm elections to sit in Weiner’s lap, with an accompanying phallic joke, and encouraging him on more than one occasion to conduct his official business — especially if it would be broadcast on television — in the buff.
Nobles wouldn’t share any more of the exchange she had with Weiner after several requests. She and Weiner are Facebook friends.
So for now we aren’t likely to hear more.
On a tangentially related note, there are two women who offered interesting analysis of the now-infamous transcript with Lisa Weiss. The first is Kiri Blakeley who captures exactly my thinking when reading it: that it as much about stroking his ego as anything else. Meanwhile ex-girlfriend Kirsten Powers writes at the Daily Beast as a woman furious at him for lying to her:
This is my general view of sex scandals. But there is lying and then there is what Weiner did. Due to nonstop meetings, I had not had time to watch his media blitz prior to my Greta interview and was slack-jawed when I saw clips of him the next day sneering and pointing fingers at other people for what he knew he had done. I am of the general view that politicians are not the most honest group of people, but, even using that very low standard, what I saw in those interviews was deeply disturbing. There is no way anyone can ever believe anything Weiner says again after that. In fact, I highly doubt that what he said in his press conference is even true.
Narcissism doesn’t begin to describe this kind of behavior. It seems there was nobody he didn’t lie to. The New York Times reported this morning that he told donors a week ago that the scandal was the result of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” and that “everything [would] be fine.” We also learned after his press conference that he coached a former porn star with whom he had communicated online on how to lie to the media.
And then she really unloads on him. I will put this below the fold because it is quoting from that transcript and it gets pretty raw:
But even if I could see past the lying and extreme narcissism that is noteworthy even by Washington standards, there is the issue of his attitude toward women. What has emerged is a picture of a predator trolling the Internet for women—some half his age—with which to engage in cybersex.
She goes on to draw out the violent side to his kinks:
By far the most disturbing information that we have been privy to—there is, no doubt, more out there that we don’t know—is the transcript of a nine-month “sexting” relationship Weiner had with a Las Vegas blackjack dealer. Radar Online posted the transcript, and it is rife with misogyny and distorted views about women. In referring to oral sex, Wiener tells her, “You will gag on me before you c** with me in you” and “[I’m] thinking about gagging your hot mouth with my c***.” This is not about sex. It’s about dominating and inflicting physical pain on a woman, a fantasy the hard-core porn industry makes billions of dollars on selling to men. You don’t want to gag a woman with your penis unless you have some serious issues with the way you see women.
And it gets much, much worse from there as she dissects his words. Seriously, if you don’t mind the dirty language, read the whole thing.
[Posted and authored by Aaron Worthing.]