Nancy Pelosi: It’s Not ObamaCare, It’s the Affordable Care Act
Once again: not ObamaCare. Got that?
Once again: not ObamaCare. Got that?
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I’ll bet you it works, too. I’ll bet if you take a survey, 47% (ok, maybe not that many just yet but say in six months) will tell you that Obamacare was repealed, and now we have the Affordable Care Act that the President supports but that the Republicans want to repeal too and leave people without health insurance of any kind.
nk (dbc370) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:30 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-b7RmmMJeo
narciso (3fec35) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:33 pmshe looks like one of those old women that smells like urine
happyfeet (8ce051) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:36 pmAh Nancy–put a sock in it. You had to pass the bill to find out what was in it–and right there on page 3 it said that the name of the act was “Obamacare”! You mean you didn’t read past page 2!
Comanche Voter (bd140e) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:37 pmJim Messina, Obama 2012 campaign manager, advertising he needs Nancy Pelosi to straighten him out.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=jim+messina+obama+2012&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:40 pmSorry, wrong link.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2012/09/messina-obamacare-creepy3.jpg
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:41 pmI dunno. I think the word “affordable” may give Nancy and the President quite a little problem here in the repackaging effort. That’s just another big lie on top of all the other lies related to Obamacare that people have picked up on. I bet we can do some good ads about how unaffordable the Affordable Care Act has proven to be.
elissa (c8b349) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:43 pmIf is was the reporter I would have said don’t correct me for improper usage regarding the act since there is nothing affordable about the act. I will grant you it is an act though.
Patrick (5bf977) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:45 pmHence the Princess Bride link,
narciso (3fec35) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:47 pmI may be a LIV, but that was a very short video! What happened? Shut up! I know what happened!
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:47 pmNo, Nancy, it is the PPACA. but it is called “Obamacare”.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 7:56 pmIt doesn’t protect many patients either, so that’s a double Vizzini, it was crafted by Robert Creamer, so it isn’t true in any regards.
narciso (3fec35) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:10 pmPresident Obama himself, as well as his cohorts, embraced the term “Obamacare” when it served their purpose or prevented Republicans from theirs…that is until the website debacle occurred. Now the Dems distance themselves from it and the disaster associated with it…
…
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/185877-president-embraces-obamacare-label
Dana (9a8f57) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:13 pmshe looks like one of those old women that smells like urine
She is an old woman. Whether she smells like urine? Depends.
nk (dbc370) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:25 pmYou so bad, nk.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:29 pmI can hear my smarter sister saying to me:
Smarter sister: felipe, you are so sexist! you like dana’s comment but responded to nk’s comment first! Don’t be that way!
felipe: Yes, I know, it’s not the preferred method.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:36 pmA nattering person nattering to the useless nattering class.
People don’t get mad though, they just listen to the natter and go nattering along.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:42 pmfelipe,
well, nk’s comment is way more fun than my dry reminder that politicians are pathetic little worms who will use anything and everything to their advantage, and then throw it away when it doesn’t…be it people or policy.
Dana (9a8f57) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:44 pmOn a side note, who knew that WalMart’s health plan is cheaper for employees and offers more plans than Obamacare?
The data is so interesting. Nancy, what do you have to say about this??
http://washingtonexaminer.com/surprise-walmart-health-plan-is-cheaper-offers-more-coverage-than-obamacare/article/2541670
Dana (9a8f57) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:49 pmYou so right, Dana.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:50 pmI can’t remember. Is it Nancy Pelosi’s face on John Kerry? Or John Kerry’s face on Nancy Pelosi?
Who got the loaner face?
SPQR (768505) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:56 pmThanks, SPQR, I have been wanting to say this:
FACEOFF! (the movie)
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:00 pmSammy! we need a link!
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:01 pmRemember: when I say “Sammy”, I mean “Univac”.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:04 pmthat is a compliment.
Can you imagine what a backstabber Pelosi must have been in high school?
steveg (794291) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:20 pmThen she moved on to dripping condescencion of a sort that defies Depends
Shouldn’t the care under the ACA be, well, affordable?
Kevin M (536c5d) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:25 pmHighschooler: Who do you have for third period?
Nancy P: that’s gross!
HS: Huh?
N.P. making fun of the mens?
HS: I don’t..
I’ll get you for that!
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:31 pmStalinists love to play these games with names. Naming this the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is like the NORKs naming their country the People’s Democratic Republic of North Korea.
It is true that the PPACA was created by an act of a body of people in Washington DC, just like the DPRK was created by an act of a body of people in the northern part of the Korean peninsula.
But once you get past the fact that two groups of people with similar ideological outlooks in specific geographic locations created something, nothing about the names other than the how or where they came into being have any claim to truth in them.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:32 pmWell duh, Steve57. Am I drunk?
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:34 pmYou mean, “shouldn’t there be some provision to provide care under the ACA.”
No. We have provisions that require the IRS to hire new agents, we have provisions to create new federal databases, we have provisions to drive restaurants and vending machine companies out of business because they won’t be able to keep up with all the nutritional labeling requirements, we have provisions to limit workers to less than 30 hours a week, we have provisions to prevent small businesses from ever hiring that 50th worker, etc.
But there’s nothing about providing care in that 2,700 page economy-strangling wet dream of a progressive wish list.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:38 pmThink Greenland, no wait, Iceland. Yes, I am drunk! – with idealism1
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:39 pmYou’ll have to buy an insurance policy, yes. But that doesn’t mean your insurance policy will actually get you access to health care.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:40 pm30.26. Shouldn’t the care under the ACA be, well, affordable?
Comment by Kevin M (536c5d) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:25 pm
You mean, “shouldn’t there be some provision to provide care under the ACA.”
steve, I know you are clever, but to change the words (and meaning) of another”? This, I think, in my regard for you, is unbecoming (sic?) to an intellectual. Forego the leverage and speak plainly.
Please remember that I am drunk and not up to my usual substandard intellect.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:49 pmyour tax dollars at work!
http://nypost.com/2014/01/10/feds-spending-224k-for-study-of-custom-fitted-condoms/
elissa (c8b349) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:50 pm#32. I spoke out of turn. Quite right!
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:50 pmTMI???
elissa (c8b349) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:55 pmElissa, you fell for that?
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:58 pmJust to be clear, Obamacare is not health care, it is insurance. Not good insurance, but insurance.
The only point of Obamacare was to nationalize health insurance.
I have no idea why, since nationalizing health care would have been much easier.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:01 pmAre you referring to the NYPost article or the 9 inches, felipe?
elissa (c8b349) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:03 pmThings are not going well if they are pretending to change the name again.
Patricia (be0117) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:10 pmOOh, nice burn, Elissa!
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:15 pmfelipe, I’m happy you’re drunk.
But there really nothing in the 2,700 page Obamacare (aka PPACA) legislation that actually has anything to do with providing anyone health care. People will get charged for it. The feds just never planned to deliver it.
The whole plan was to increase the size of the bureaucracy, tax the hell out of people, and turn physicians into federal agents.
It was advertised as something that would increase people’s access to health care. In fact it makes things worse.
And that was by design. The Stalinists had to get this past the CBO, the electorate, and through Congress, so they had to lie. The idea was that when everyone discovered Obamacare doesn’t do anything they were told it was going to do, then the voters who are getting screwed out of the health care they were happy with would force the GOP to spend, spend, spend on fixing what the Democrats broke. And the Democrats plan on continuing breaking things until they get to single payer. Which still won’t deliver decent health care. But, man, do all the complaints about health care guarantee job security to the Stalinists who will keep promising to fix the system they keep breaking!
Norm Schieber, the senior editor at The New Republic celebrates the plan to defraud the people of the US into something that it doesn’t want because it won’t deliver here:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116105/obamacare-will-lead-single-payer-michael-moore
The point is to promise people health care, but never provide it. That’s a money maker for progressives who want to turn the spending spigot on so they can spread the wealth around.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:34 pmThere is no care under the ACA. Affordable or unaffordable. It doesn’t exist.
That is something the Dems plan to make more barnyard noises and empty promises about later, to extort more spending money, but the original ACA was only about getting the enforcement mechanisms for the wealth redistribution in place.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:38 pmno I’m happy
you’re drunk
oh wait maybe I’m drunk
wait but I’m happy
who are you again?
happyfeet (8ce051) — 1/10/2014 @ 10:54 pmWell, I just finished watching “Support your local sheriff” starring James Garner and I must say, Hooray for holly-wood!. That is all.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 11:04 pmTotally O/T, but does anyone believe this guy?
http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1
They should name a new model the Fink.
Jim Farley later issued this statement:
It’s like the NSA. They’re not really “tracking” anyone until they actually use the data they’re collecting 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year.
And of course, law enforcement agencies would never ask for any of that data. And if they did, Ford would never give it to them.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/10/2014 @ 11:14 pmVery prescient, Steve.
I believe he is a tool.
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 11:20 pmI almost forgot;
“They should name a new model the Fink”
felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 11:22 pmDouble “heh”.
I feel there’s a ford fink in your future, felipe.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/11/2014 @ 12:43 amFirst of all, Nancy, you may recall that all legislation is titled with a meaning opposite to the actual effect of the law. The (“Obamacare” or “ACA”) policies are neither affordable nor provide access to care (many hospitals and physicians opted out of those networks).
Much like the “Patriot Act” laid the foundations for a police state, with travel restrictions, domestic spying and secret courts.
David (666954) — 1/11/2014 @ 1:05 amDavid, the foundations for the police state were laid long before the Patriot Act.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/11/2014 @ 3:49 amI’ve been calling it the “Unaffordable Insurance Act” for a reason.
It is neither affordable, nor does it provide care. It nominally provides insurance, and said insurance does not guarantee that the insured will be able to see a health care provider. Depending on where you live even ‘cadillac’ plans won’t get you care; just try finding an OB accepting new patients (for that matter, any OB) within a two hour drive in some parts of the country.
LibraryGryffon (1996ab) — 1/11/2014 @ 6:20 amTime to close some more planned parenthood clinics then.
d.wildst (ae20f1) — 1/11/2014 @ 6:25 amimdw? Happy New Year.
nk (dbc370) — 1/11/2014 @ 6:33 amR.I.P. Ariel Sharon
Icy (1b5976) — 1/11/2014 @ 7:21 amnanski pelosi?
Colonel Haiku (6505d5) — 1/11/2014 @ 8:34 amshe nutty, fit for teh streets
of San Francisco
Steve, I read that the owner gives consent when he uses the navigation or sync system. Who has time to read all the fine print of these privacy protocols?
Of course they are collecting data. Selling us is another revenue stream.
Patricia (be0117) — 1/11/2014 @ 8:49 amNancy Pelosi is gheyer than a chorus line of shirtless Vlad Putins dancing the Can Can.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 1/11/2014 @ 11:11 am9 Million Americans!? I thought that wasn’t a big deal because it’s only talking about 2.7% of the population.
The White House just said cancelling 5% of people’s insurance wasn’t a big deal in November.
NaBr (d2443a) — 1/11/2014 @ 11:25 amyes, much gheyer…
now, for your listening pleasure, a songbird for teh Ages:
http://youtu.be/QOAT0AocD1c
Colonel Haiku (6505d5) — 1/11/2014 @ 11:42 amMay God deliver Ariel Sharon to the heavens for eternity.
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 1/11/2014 @ 11:46 amHis relentless fight against evil was heroic.
Nasty Nancy call call it what she wants… i call it messin’ with the kid. 😎
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYKfawYfVQ
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 1/11/2014 @ 12:23 pmshe really is a nasty disgusting old lady but as such she’s quintessentially representative of neo-fascist american politics
her and Meghan’s coward daddy should do a world tour for so the rest of the world gets a crystal clear understanding of what a whorish cowardly fascist scumstate America has become
happyfeet (8ce051) — 1/11/2014 @ 12:52 pmnot to worry,
ObamacareAKA “ACA”, will be an entertaining adventure…http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-11/humana-warns-adverse-obamacare-enrollment-mix
i, for one, can’t wait to find out what a “premium rate death spiral” looks like, ’cause it sounds totally awesome!
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 1/11/2014 @ 1:23 pmBy 2016, Nancy Pelosi will be telling us that it is called
Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 1/11/2014 @ 2:10 pmObamaCarethe Affordable Care Actthe Republican Health Care Law.Standard policy of leftists — it’s inherent in their thinking — lay claim to the thing you aren’t.
Hence, the “German Democratic Republic” (aka “East Germany”) is neither a democracy nor a republic. And the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea — aka “North Korea” is the same — neither a democracy nor a republic.
This happens all the time. Lefties are exceedingly focused on the names of things as somehow more significant than what they actually ARE.
IGotBupkis, Still Not Home From The Holidays (155353) — 1/11/2014 @ 2:53 pmIt’s not the Affordable Care Act. It’s the Swamp. Drain it, Nancy.
DaveinMn (685527) — 1/11/2014 @ 3:01 pmIts not Obamacare? How about “Clustercare”?
Roman (3165c1) — 1/11/2014 @ 3:54 pmhttp://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
When I watched the video, and the hand gestures, my first thought was “Vanna P ? Vanna P ? Thy name is Nancy !” …
feets #63 – she is quintessentially representative of the current crony-capitalist fascist-acting political party in this country … McCain is just one of a few in the opposition party which is all that is stopping the US from going full-Mussolini … you don’t have to respect McCain – but you should respect the GOP for *being* that loyal opposition that is all that is slowing down Pres’ent Obama and his minions …
I’m not giving up on you – and *you* shouldn’t give up on the US …
Alastor (2e7f9f) — 1/11/2014 @ 4:21 pmi’m hedging my bets
the neo-fascist ascendance has been swift and merciless
and so far Team R’s response has largely consisted of flinging a hastily-nominated mitt romney at the encroaching enemy, which proved to be a feckless and innocuous endeavor
we’re in big trouble
happyfeet (8ce051) — 1/11/2014 @ 4:29 pm24. Comment by felipe (6100bc) — 1/10/2014 @ 9:04 pm
Remember: when I say “Sammy”, I mean “Univac”.
that is a compliment.
I have wondered if the AskSam database was named after me. I would think the odds are low. It would depend upon who was involved – if there was anyone involved who knew me in school.
Sammy Finkelman (28600b) — 1/11/2014 @ 5:17 pmI hear the the amenities are a lot nicer than what you get with even the business rate death spiral, let alone what you have to live with back in coach.
You’ll be glad we upgraded.
Steve57 (f8d67f) — 1/11/2014 @ 5:18 pm12. Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 1/10/2014 @ 8:10 pm
It doesn’t protect many patients either, so that’s a double Vizzini, it was crafted by Robert Creamer, so it isn’t true in any regards.
I don’t follow the reference to “Vizzini” and Cramer left Congress after the 2008 election, and wasn’t on any committee that should have prepared any health insurance law.
Sammy Finkelman (28600b) — 1/11/2014 @ 5:20 pm64. Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 1/11/2014 @ 1:23 pm
…i, for one, can’t wait to find out what a “premium rate death spiral” looks like, ’cause it sounds totally awesome!
http://ldihealtheconomist.com/media/death_spiral_da.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/nyregion/18insure.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Sammy Finkelman (28600b) — 1/11/2014 @ 5:26 pmthe problem with irony is that not everyone gets it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-cFtSPIF4Q
redc1c4 (abd49e) — 1/11/2014 @ 5:40 pmMore accurately, it is ObamaDon’tCare.
Rhymes With Right (da71f4) — 1/11/2014 @ 6:48 pmThat is BarryCare you’re talking about, right?
askeptic (98e3cf) — 1/11/2014 @ 7:13 pmAccenture is not the right company to replace CGI Federal. If I were a working journalist, I would look into this.
Regardless, all is happy in Obamaworld, so what’s the point.
Ag80 (eb6ffa) — 1/11/2014 @ 10:23 pmWeyland/Yutani, Omni Consumer Products, that’s more their speed.
narciso (3fec35) — 1/11/2014 @ 10:31 pmI have no doubt that people with company plans that get screwed in November are going to understand that the ACA and Obamacare are the same lie.
The only problem will be that they’ll tumble onto this truth a couple weeks after the midterm election.
Kevin M (536c5d) — 1/11/2014 @ 10:33 pmKevin M – a bunch of us who already lost the health plans that were serving us well are well aware how much of a lie the “affordable” and “Care” are … and more and more of our colleagues are realising as they try to fill prescriptions (and find they have to start from scratch again, to justify why the prescriptions are needed) …
Alastor (2e7f9f) — 1/12/2014 @ 10:36 amThere is a reason why “ACA” and the Spanish meaning of the Swedish word for “cookie” are a rhyme …
Alastor (2e7f9f) — 1/12/2014 @ 10:38 amToo late, Nancy. The Narcissist-in-Chief should have stressed the term “Affordable Care Act” from the beginning but once the press had dubbed it “Obamacare” his ego took over.
You own it, Dems. Embrace the suck.
creeper (5d6b93) — 1/13/2014 @ 7:34 ami bet after next year I get thrown into the obamacare with all the other losers
and that’s not a good feeling
but it’s the uncertainty that’s most annoying
happyfeet (8ce051) — 1/13/2014 @ 7:43 amBreitbart:
He Haw the witch is dead, the wicked old witch, the witch is dead.
gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 1/13/2014 @ 8:04 pm