The Jury Talks Back

8/25/2009

Oh Sweet…

Filed under: Uncategorized — Scott Jacobs @ 5:18 am

Futurama’s on…

No, wait, that’s not right…

Oh yeah…  New downloadable content for Mass Effect has been released.

Only 400 points for an excuse/reminder to play more of this game?  Nodn’t mind if I do…

7 Comments

  1. But Dragon Age is coming out soon…Damn them for taking up more hours of my life.

    How am I supposed to finish my nostalgic journey through the Wing Commander series if they keep releasing new and cool stuff?

    Comment by Christian — 8/25/2009 @ 10:35 am

  2. Don’t look now, dude, but Mass Effect 2 is coming in early 2010…

    Not to mention Halo 3: ODST on 09/22/09 and Modern Warfare 2 on 11/10/09…

    I need a freaking sponsor to fund this habit…

    Gods, ahve you seen the freaking top-end edition for MW2???

    It just isn’t fair, I tell you. It just isn’t fair…

    Comment by Scott Jacobs — 8/25/2009 @ 12:15 pm

  3. Heavy Rain is looking amazing. And a PS3 is basically free at HEB this evening (actually, $199 for some old version). The competition in video games has finally reached a permanent fever pitch. It’s a great age to live in, at least in this aspect.

    Comment by Juan — 8/25/2009 @ 6:30 pm

  4. The problem is, Sony has:

    a) Admitted that its brand can’t carry itself, so it must lower it’s price to that of the competition

    b) is still taking a loss on the PS3 Slim.

    The only thing that might save them is if they can make up the difference with an increase in game sales that a larger install base would lead to. The problem is that very few people, when a game is released for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 and own both consoles, pick the PS3 version.

    And at this point, they really are only selling to people who have another console from a competitor.

    Comment by Scott Jacobs — 8/25/2009 @ 6:50 pm

  5. I don’t think that analysis works.

    The xbox lowered its price, and probably will continue to. The PS2, the most successful console in history, reduced price. It’s kinda toolish to say that’s an admission the brand can’t carry itself. I doubt the PS3 is not making a profit, but even if it is, that’s not really an argument against buying one. They have so many games out, and will continue to, and if the brand is doing so well all over the world I don’t have much to worry about.

    What I really care about is how much fun the system is. My wife has artsy fartsy games like Eden and Flower, I’ve got Motorstorm, MGS4, and eventually Heavy Rain and Gran Turismo, and my kids have Little Big Planet and eyecreate and a crate of playdough and legos (stop motion movies are extremely easy to make with a playstation). I am not deliberately choosing exclusives… these just are the games I find to be the best these days. Hell, I have ubuntu on my playstation and use it to decode DVDs for my library (it’s much faster than a conventional computer for tasks like this).

    I don’t have many multiplatform games, mainly because they just aren’t as good as exclusives tend to be. I remember Capcom complaining that Microsoft demanded multiplatform games be equal cross systems or favor the 360, and of course that’s been the trend, so I guess MS is playing hardball. Not a big deal, they always have and they make a great product in their own right. But I honestly don’t know why it matters to the gamer if his system is the more popular one. I just use mine to please my family.

    If you really think the Playstation brand is in such bad shape that ‘only one thing can save them’, then you’re probably just not thinking clearly about this. Playstation is huge in Asia, and doing quite well in Europe. Currencies there are more valuable than dollars. The PS3 won a format war that was worth many billions. It’s not as popular as the competition, but it’s still got many millions of users. Apple isn’t a failue just because there are more people running Vista. I’ve had so much satisfaction from owning a PS3, even though I mostly watch my family play it. The idea that I should care about how popular it is sounds like something I’d see on a GM training video.

    I’m sure the 360 is fun too, but when I played Halo 3 it looked pretty boring to me. I think this is a matter of taste, and I think enough people prefer the Playstations that they will be around for a very long time.

    You make a lot of strange assumptions, but I guess people get more invested in this thing than I do. Most people I know play their PS2s. Sales of consoles (I just googled) bear that out. There are more than 130 million PS2s out there, and only 30 million 360s (counting the ~10 million that failed? I don’t know). Even the wii hasn’t sold half as many. PS3 is at 24 million, which is basically in a tie with the 360. The fact of the matter is that Sony did a really good job with the PS2, and a lot of these people don’t really need a new console.

    Sony has a much better record here than any other console maker, but I really don’t care about that. I’m just here to tell you that the competition in this field is fierce, and that’s why we’ve got so many awesome games on all the systems. What it looks like to me is that there is no clear loser or winner this generation, unlike last generation. That’s a really good thing.

    Comment by Juan — 8/25/2009 @ 9:19 pm

  6. The reduction in pricing, and the availability of “slim” models, is all a product of the marketing curve. Once a product hits a certain level of saturation, the price must come down do increase market share. That’s a given. Sony is merely following the curve.

    That said, Juan has been drinking a little too much PS3 kool-aid. 😉

    The PS3 is a good system, far more stable than the 360, and it is the most inexpensive Blu-ray player on the market. All of this is true, but it is also true that the 360 sells far more games and has a larger catalog. Certainly games like MGS and UNCHARTED are worthy editions to any console, they are the rarity among PS3 exclusives. The PS3 was behind the times on their marketplace functions and catalog and their community building is only now catching up.

    360s have a higher failure rate than PS3’s, but they also have a higher repurchase after failure rate. For some reason 360 failures cause less frustration among users than PS3 failures, possibly a product of higher play time on the console. There is more exclusive content on multi-platform games available for the 360 — see FALLOUT 3.

    Sony’s not going anywhere, their PSP strategy has demonstrated that they know how to turn profit by appealing to their core platform audience, but neither is Microsoft. Given that the Wii is the only system that sells for a profit — Nintendo isn’t going anywhere either.

    When Juan says that there is no clear winner this generation, and says that’s a good thing, he is right. But it is also true that we wouldn’t have had a couple of great generations of game systems had there not been some amazingly high quality failures along the way. The Dreamcast is still a remarkable system and was the first to really integrate online play. The Atari Jaguar pushed certain technical boundaries, while dropping the format ball. Without the 3DO, I find it unlikely that PS2s and X-Boxes would have thought it necessary to double as DVD players — let alone the risk Sony took by using their system as a format for a format war in addition to a console war.

    Comment by Christian — 8/26/2009 @ 12:57 pm

  7. Christian, not sure how I’m drinking the cool aid. I just like the system and noted the 360’s numerical advantage and PS3’s disadvantage were being exaggerated. The 360 has less than a third of this generation’s market, and only slightly more than the PS3 (perhaps less, actually, depending on how many 360s have failed). Even the wii lacks a majority of this generation. As I said it’s largely a matter of preference of the non exclusives.

    You’re right that DLC favors MS’s systems. But that’s largely timed and bought exclusivity. Fallout 3 is a good example. the fact that multis are often better on the 360 than the PS3 is a better argument, but I just don’t see multis as on the same level as PS3 exclusives.

    there are a lot of arguments I could make for the PS3, but it’s just a matter of taste. Halo + Gears + [insert games I am unfamiliar with] vs Gran Turismo, MGS, Warhawk, Heavy Rain, etc.

    Of course, no one comes close to the DS, which is dominating the world for reasons I cannot fathom.

    Comment by Juan — 8/26/2009 @ 11:13 pm

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