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9/8/2016

Military Veteran To Hillary Clinton: How Can We Have Any Confidence In Your Leadership When You Clearly Corrupted Our National Security?

Filed under: General — Dana @ 4:49 pm



[guest post by Dana]

OMG. This woman cannot stop lying.

It was classic Hillary at last night’s Military Town Hall when she found herself challenged by a vet:

“Had I communicated this information not following prescribed protocols, I would have been prosecuted and imprisoned,” said the veteran, **identified by MSNBC as a Republican. “Secretary Clinton, how can you expect those such as myself who were and are trusted with America’s most sensitive information to have any confidence in your leadership as president when you clearly corrupted our national security?”

To which Clinton replied, without batting an eye: Listen. Right here, right now, I’m gonna utter so much bullshit, it’ll make your head spin! Trust me on this!

**Note that it was a Republican that had the testicular fortitude to confront Clinton, and do the job that the MSM is too chicken to do. Credit where credit is due. Thanks for noticing, MSNBC!

–Dana

91 Responses to “Military Veteran To Hillary Clinton: How Can We Have Any Confidence In Your Leadership When You Clearly Corrupted Our National Security?”

  1. Heh, if looks could kill, that vet would have hit the ground in a hot-New York second.

    Dana (995455)

  2. Waiting for Sammy to voxsplain this away.

    Have at it Sammy.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  3. Step 1. Describe the system you should have used.
    Step 2. Claim you used the system you should have used.
    Step 3. Ignore that you did not use that system
    Step 4. Wipe your system, like with a cloth.
    Step 5. Profit.

    Dejectedhead (0c7c2f)

  4. Sounds to me like she just made a case that “hundreds of people” should be prosecuted (including herself) in that short clip.

    Dilligas (389b02)

  5. My mistake, I forgot I was describing a Clinton.

    Step 1. Describe the system you should have used. Profit.
    Step 2. Claim you used the system you should have used. Profit.
    Step 3. Ignore that you did not use that system. Profit.
    Step 4. Wipe your system, like with a cloth. Profit.
    Step 5. Profit.

    That’s better.

    Dejectedhead (0c7c2f)

  6. nasty hoochie looks like she’s had some work done i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Classified information isn’t classified because it has a header on it – it has a header on it because it’s classified. Writing the nuclear codes on a scratch pad doesn’t magically make it not classified just because there’s no header on it. She knows this. She knows just about anything she writes or talks about that isn’t public knowledge is classified or potentially so just by virtue of the fact that it’s the SOS saying it in private. She knows this, but she talks about the headers because this way she can be untruthful without actually lying. We’re not talking about headers, Hillary, we’re talking about classified information. You know that.

    Jerryskids (16a4d5)

  8. Really deliciously ironic that getting the Donald Trump hairstyle (as Megyn Kelly did) ended up revealing her cheating earpiece. Wonder if we’ll see her return to an ‘over the ears’ hairstyle in future public appearances.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  9. I see Arkancide in this mans future.

    Azygos (198248)

  10. I told him to treat hillary like she was jesus and trump like he was the dexil!

    matt lauer (fb91f8)

  11. Maudie needs to brush up on her Tom Lehrer.

    He makes it so simple, ‘so very simple,’ to explain such a complicated issue that is obviously so easy to understand:

    “Consider the following subtraction problem, which I will put up here: 342 minus 173. Now, remember how we used to do that:

    Three from two is nine, carry the one, and if you’re under 35 or went to a private school, you say seven from three is six, but if you’re over 35 and went to a public school, you say eight from four is six …and carry the one, so we have 169.

    But in the new approach, as you know, the important thing is to understand what you’re doing, rather than to get the right answer. Here’s how they do it now:

    You can’t take three from two,
    Two is less than three,
    So you look at the four in the tens place.
    Now that’s really four tens
    So you make it three tens,
    Regroup, and you change a ten to ten ones,
    And you add ’em to the two and get twelve,
    And you take away three, that’s nine.
    Is that clear?

    Now instead of four in the tens place
    You’ve got three,
    ‘Cause you added one,
    That is to say, ten, to the two,
    But you can’t take seven from three,
    So you look in the hundreds place.

    From the three you then use one
    To make ten ones…
    (And you know why four plus minus one
    Plus ten is fourteen minus one?
    ‘Cause addition is commutative, right!)
    And so you’ve got thirteen tens
    And you take away seven,
    And that leaves five…

    Well, six actually…
    But the idea is the important thing!

    Now go back to the hundreds place,
    You’re left with two,
    And you take away one from two,
    And that leaves…?

    Everybody get one?
    Not bad for the first day!

    Hooray for New Math,
    New-hoo-hoo Math,
    It won’t do you a bit of good to review math.
    It’s so simple,
    So very simple,
    That only a child can do it!

    Now, that actually is not the answer that I had in mind, because the book that I got this problem out of wants you to do it in base eight. But don’t panic! Base eight is just like base ten really – if you’re missing two fingers! Shall we have a go at it? Hang on…

    You can’t take three from two,
    Two is less than three,
    So you look at the four in the eights place.
    Now that’s really four eights,
    So you make it three eights,
    Regroup, and you change an eight to eight ones
    And you add ’em to the two,
    And you get one-two base eight,
    Which is ten base ten,
    And you take away three, that’s seven.
    Ok?

    Now instead of four in the eights place
    You’ve got three,
    ‘Cause you added one,
    That is to say, eight, to the two,
    But you can’t take seven from three,
    So you look at the sixty-fours…

    “Sixty-four? How did sixty-four get into it?” I hear you cry! Well, sixty-four is eight squared, don’t you see? “Well, ya ask a silly question, ya get a silly answer!”

    From the three, you then use one
    To make eight ones,
    You add those ones to the three,
    And you get one-three base eight,
    Or, in other words,
    In base ten you have eleven,
    And you take away seven,
    And seven from eleven is four!
    Now go back to the sixty-fours,
    You’re left with two,
    And you take away one from two,
    And that leaves?

    Now, let’s not always see the same hands!
    One, that’s right.
    Whoever got one can stay after the show and clean the erasers.

    Hooray for New Math,
    New-hoo-hoo Math!
    It won’t do you a bit of good to review math.
    It’s so simple,
    So very simple,
    That only a child can do it!

    Come back tomorrow night… we’re gonna do…” emails!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. now consider if the following email had been intercepted by interested parties,

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12660

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. If Trump has any speechwriters worth sh*t, he’ll say in the first televised debate, “So we’re supposed to believe that when Hillary was Secretary of State, she had time to write over 30,000 emails about yoga class?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. @13– And just what is the price of cow pies these days?

    Let’s ask Ted Cruz of Texas.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  15. i remember him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. it’s best to use the lillian hellman test,* even when asking her about the weather,

    *mary mccarthy suggested hellman, lied about every word, including ‘the & and’

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. I wonder when the host of this blog is going to recognize that there is one choice.

    This is a United 93 Election.

    Mike K (a398b9)

  18. Reason 15,002 to vote for the other candidate.

    Oh yeah, it is Trump

    Sunny (d7fa2b)

  19. I completely agree we are headed off a cliff, Mike K. Unfortunately, the Republicans have nominated a man who doesn’t have a clue what to do about it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  20. lame

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  21. sunny i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. oh bosh and pickles doesn’t know what to do about it

    all Mr. Trump has to do is stop the savage vicious incessant pounding rape of the economy what barack has orchestrated

    look at what food stamp did on ITT just today lol

    all Mr. Trump has to do is

    not that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. DRJ,

    At some point, do you think you’ll recognize that Presidential elections are more about stemming the tide of the left than they are about enjoying the opportunity to vote for Cleveland, Coolidge, or Reagan?

    We’re not voting for Trump because he’s a great problem solver.
    We’re voting for him because he won’t incur the damage that Hillary will.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  24. We’re not voting for Trump because he’s a great problem solver.
    We’re voting for him because he won’t incur the damage that Hillary will.

    There are those of us who believe he will do at least as much as she would, only he would attack different parts of the organism.

    kishnevi (41a4d3)

  25. At some point, do you think you’ll recognize that Presidential elections are more about stemming the tide of the left than they are about enjoying the opportunity to vote for Cleveland, Coolidge, or Reagan?

    Do you talk to everyone like you think they are stupid or is it jyst me?

    DRJ (15874d)

  26. #25- based on nothing but your hurt feelings.

    LBascom (09d352)

  27. Ooook. #26 too…

    LBascom (09d352)

  28. I really doubt Trump will do damage.

    There will be those who will continue to hate him and claim he’s done damage just as there are those who think Obama is one of the greatest presidents of all time.

    I think he will make efforts to rebuild the economy, keep us a sovereign nation, keep the supremes from going all lefty, add some common sense to governing.

    Just that small handful of things would be a YUGE accomplishment.

    With Hillary and Bill.. its frightening to imagine this sociopathic, ambitious hillbilly couple with virtually unlimited power.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  29. DRJ, come on, I’m not talking down to you — I’m just asking if you recognize that the Great Conservative Nominee only comes but once in a Haley’s Comet.
    And so, during the rest of our life on earth, we have to go with the best choice in a given election year.
    This year, the choices stink.
    … but one stinks less than the other.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  30. I think Trump will be at least 7.5% better than Hillary. That is enough to get my vote

    steveg (5508fb)

  31. but one yet craves the rich fetid stink of harvardtrash ted does one not

    one yearns for the tedstank to fill their nostrils with passion most true

    one yearns for that permeating aroma of righteousness

    i can imagine one wouldn’t give up that heady experience just for to save America

    not in this day and age

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  32. i need a new constitution

    the pages of this one are all stuck together

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. he and lindsey seem to be reading from the same program,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/louis-w-sullivan-hillary-clinton_us_57cf06dee4b06a74c9f0cf74

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. #33 Mr happyfeet,

    That’ll teach you to eat a peanut butter & jelly sandwich while studying your Constitution!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  35. that was the most charitable interpretation, cs,

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. now remember the north korea deal was the model for the rhodes road show, wendy sherman was the front person for both,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/09/north-korea-believed-to-have-carried-out-nuclear-test-after-smal/

    narciso (d1f714)

  37. so really what was this kerfluffle about they were willing to eat shoe leather, not one but twice,

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/08/polls-show-gary-johnson-hurts-hillary-more-than-trump-msm-jump-into-action/

    narciso (d1f714)

  38. And to top it all she was cheating:

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=886255

    #nevertrump don’t care, they have no standards in common with us

    DNF (e00287)

  39. #36 narciso,

    Ha, ha, you’re funny.
    I was thinking about going the other direction with that one, too, but I figured peanut butter & jelly was better suited for a family-oriented website!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  40. 25. What you believe is best kept to yourself cupcake.

    DNF (e00287)

  41. 30. Yes, and you escort old ladies across the street with the light too. What a fine young man.

    DNF (e00287)

  42. as glenn reynolds points out, context is sorely lacking, nixon who had 14 years in office, before assuming the highest office, was still woefully naive, were his stammerings really so injurious to our nation, I don’t think so, his attempt to adapt general templar’s malaysian strategy could have shown promise, but the radicals then had to burn the whole thing down, nearly 50 years later, they are on the way to completing that task,

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. 20. Not sure where you’re gleaning your miasma but suasion requires thought.

    DNF (e00287)

  44. cont) he catered a little too much, to those like moynihan and garment, thought they could negotiate with the horde, we see now that felt as a member of the permanent bureaucracy, a midwestern version of sir humphrey appleby, chose to seek revenge for his failure to win his
    top spot, there were other operatives with other agencies, like rogelio martinez who did likewise,

    narciso (d1f714)

  45. so clearly if inspector dreyfus, ran any side of competent railroad, they would have cuffed at the end of the interrogation, and remanded her for bail,

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. The United Nations plans to keep working with charities in Syria despite a decision by more than 70 relief groups to suspend ties with the U.N. for its links to the Syrian government, officials said on Thursday.

    The coalition of 73 charities penned an open letter to the U.N. saying its agencies and its partners in Syria were under the “significant and substantial” influence of President Bashar al-Assad.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  47. Trump is the man who pulls the cord to stop the train before it goes over the cliff.

    After that, everything else is secondary.

    Mike K (a398b9)

  48. how many of these charities, complained when money from the muntada trust, ended up in either jayvee or varsity hands, the un did not take them up on this, in part because they get their cut from them as well,

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. two years after these outfits were banned,

    http://www.arabtimesonline.com/news/mp-queries-mujahideen-fundraiser/

    they were still raising money,

    narciso (d1f714)

  50. it’s just narrative, guess who’s on the board of this outfit, that once included michael doran, one of the most perceptive analysts of the region,

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264088/american-inquisition-caroline-glick

    narciso (d1f714)

  51. @20 I completely agree we are headed off a cliff, Mike K. Unfortunately, the Republicans have nominated a man who doesn’t have a clue what to do about it.

    Nonsense. He looks at the cliff, sees the potential of the location wand the ocean view from it, buys the land, builds a YUGE hotel/casino with a world class 18-hole golf course next to it; creates jobs hiring pretty women to run the tables and legal immigrants to run housekeeping and maintain landscaping, sells the mineral rights to suckers from Texas and names the whole place the Trump Doral Cliffdweller and makes a ton of money off it like the filthy, greedy, ugly American, New York City capitalist he is.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. @25 kishnevi

    Parts of the organism like the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, etc?

    Be a real shame if something happened to them.

    Pinandpuller (79cf1f)

  53. @53 DCSCA

    IDK in my experience it’s the suckers that sell their mineral rights.

    Pinandpuller (79cf1f)

  54. This is a completely irrelevant, and false, issue.

    The problem with Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server wasn’t the security of the information on it – in fact it had too much security, being secure not only against hackers and foreign governments [and it was – Wikileaks won’t be making public any of the deleted e-mails], but also prosecutors, Congressional investigations, Freedom of Information Act lawsuits, Inspector General investigations (should there ever be any – Hillary made sure the State Department hads no Inspector General during her entire tenure, which is longer than any federal government agency has gone without an inspector general, since there were inspector generals) and any special panels, like the 9/11 commission, that might be created.

    And any violations of protocols in terms of putting something on an unclassified system, would have happened just as much if she’d had a unclassified state.gov address – or, if not as much, still a considerable fraction of the time, with no type of example excluded.

    The situation of someone who always works in a classified room, and uses material that exists only in a clasified environment, is not comparable to someone who has to be out in the field a lot, (in the sense of being away from their principle place of work) and to work or be consulted off hours, and to develop policy and to deal with foreign countries.

    The whole argument is specious, and a distraction.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  55. What;s going on here is that Hillary Clintn sounds like she wa snot telling the truth, bit she was. She did it an unclear way, because she’s hiding things (like maybe signing in to the classified system under someone else’s name) and because she;’s prepared to go through a few iterations of accusation and defense.

    The fact that whatever classified material was sent on the unclassified system did not have a headrr is an extremely important distinction between what Jon Lester was dealing with and what she and her people were dealing with.

    And while there is an argument that something should be classified because of its content, hundreds of people, not just her, used an unclassified system to send such e-mail, and whaever the problem with that, it would have existed the same way if she had had and used a state.gov address instead of her clintonemail.com address – except that her system was more secure in fact, even if it wasn’t in theory.

    There is a lie in her claim that “I did exactly what I should have done.” even if you supply the words “in terms of handling classified information.”

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  56. Dilligas (389b02) — 9/8/2016 @ 5:22 pm

    Sounds to me like she just made a case that “hundreds of people” should be prosecuted (including herself) in that short clip.

    I think the argument really is that the rules are both impossible and impractical to follow. Impossible because nobody can distinguish on the fly between classified and unclassified material that’s not labeled, and impractical because the classified system is too inaccessible, and people will not put away their cellphones and laptops all day. It was never designed to actually work. (of course, this could raise questions about why she let things stay that way)

    The State Department, by the way, doesn’t even trust its classified system and they use a NSA system when they really want to keep things secret.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  57. narciso @12.

    This came from a Freedom of Information Act request, not from hacking clintonemail.com!

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

    On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for 30,322 emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. The final PDFs were made available on February 29, 2016.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  58. Concerns about Hillary Clinton’s health are “serious—could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.,” say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were “likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records.” Only 2.7% responded that they were “just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern.”

    While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis.

    More than 78% said the health concerns had received “not enough emphasis” in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been “too much emphasis.”

    Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate’s fitness to serve for health reasons should “make the concerns known to the public.” Only 11% said a physician should “keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient,” and 10% that the candidate’s health was “off limits for public discussion.”

    #nevertrump however finds the alternative “bizarre”. #nevertrump is bizarre.

    DNF (ffe548)

  59. 56. In-our-face horsesh!t. Guccifer, now sentenced to some 58 months:

    Marcel Lazăr Lehel, the hacker known as “Guccifer,” stated that he had access to Democratic presidential candidate former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email server, which he described as “like an open orchid.”

    DNF (ffe548)

  60. 51. And inarguably Glick’s gravitas exceeds that of this forum inclusive.

    #nevertrump are the bigots, via benign neglect, contempt and apathy.

    DNF (ffe548)

  61. Hillary: “We did not lose a single American in Libya”.

    “I used a secure server for classified email”.

    DNF (ffe548)

  62. “nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey ”

    – DNF

    I have never seen someone so proud to parrot meaningless nonsense as authoritative insight.

    Leviticus (1157fb)

  63. she looks like death rotting pustulant death

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. and in her purse, a bottle of hot sauce

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. “nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey ”

    Probably the same “Doctors” who endorsed Camels as being better and healthy to smoke.

    Azygos (198248)

  66. Clinton or Trump will be the next President. Your choice.

    cedarhill (382a17)

  67. lol doctors are sooo effing stupid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  68. To be sure… https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/243444/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. Probably the same “Doctors” who endorsed Camels as being better and healthy to smoke.

    Nah, they’re all dead of lung cancer.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  70. 72: Wouldn’t most be dead by now due to other more natural causes?

    urbanleftbehind (95d72c)

  71. It’s really uncanny. I was just about to chide Cruz Supporter for talking to DRJ like she is stupid.
    DRJ is one of the most insightful folks here. Then I read DRJ taking care of that herself. I think DRJ makes a great point. For all the alarm in every election, how has Trump in his many years of supporting the most corrupt left wind democrats in town, shown he will fix anything? His flip flop to caricature hillbilly republican is a con.

    Cruz Supporter, are you sure you never commented here under a different name? BTW what state did you say you voted for Cruz in, and when was that?

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  72. that’s actually not very uncanny

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  73. feets, its that DRJ often expresses an idea I was going to write.

    Saves time.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  74. i was just about to say that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  75. Enough of that Flight 93 election crap – at least this woman uses her own name and it makes a better and more accurate case to hold nose and vote Trump:
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/07/laura-ingraham-taking-ted-cruz-seriously-what-vote-your-conscience-means-for-conservatives.html

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  76. 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS).

    Internet surveys have response bias, and in general Internet polls are more pro-Trump in the elction. This besides the question of where did the sample come from?

    About 20% said concerns were “likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records.” Only 2.7% responded that they were “just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern.”

    While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis.

    yes, that’s less well known, The surprising thing is almost one fifth were not aware of the concussion, but things are that way. Here the poll, even of the sample is biased, reflects the comparitive degree of ignorance of one matter versus another.

    Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate’s fitness to serve for health reasons should “make the concerns known to the public.” Only 11% said a physician should “keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient,” and 10% that the candidate’s health was “off limits for public discussion.”

    If a physician examined her, then he’d be bound by the usual medical code of ethics or Hippocratic oath not to reveal anything without permission.

    DNF (ffe548) — 9/9/2016 @ 3:29 am

    #nevertrump however finds the alternative “bizarre”. #nevertrump is bizarre.

    This is not a zero-sum gane where something that disqualifies one of the two major party nominees makes the other one better qualified.

    Bad health for Hillary would be point on her favor. Why is this not obvious to you?

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  77. 56. 61. DNF (ffe548) — 9/9/2016 @ 3:35 am

    Marcel Lazăr Lehel, the hacker known as “Guccifer,” stated that he had access to Democratic presidential candidate former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email server, which he described as “like an open orchid.”

    Guccifer is lying if he said that. In fact, Marcel Lazăr Lehel is probably not even the real Guccifer.

    I mean the Russian agent Guccifer, because Marcel Lazăr Lehel may have done some hacking on his own before his identity was appropriated by the Russians.

    And Guccifer number 2.0, everybody understands, is a front man for the real hackers.

    Nothing from Hillary’s server hass ever been revealed by hackers. And it certainly was not open like an orchid.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  78. DNF (ffe548) — 9/9/2016 @ 4:06 am

    Hillary: “We did not lose a single American in Libya”.

    “I used a secure server for classified email”.

    Both essentially correct, although Hillary didn’t say she used a secures server, because she doesn’t dare, because it still not an excuse. But it had to be secure. You think she wanted to protect information from prosecutors but not from foreign countries or domestic hackera?

    Hillary’s statement that we did not a single American refers to the NATO operation in 2011, as anyone who was paying the least attention to what she said would know. Benghazi was over a year later, and involved no U.S. military personnel. (the people at the CIA annex were all contractors employed and paid by the CIA)

    About the server what she does say is the State Department system was hacked, and that the wiite House has bene hacked (meaning personnell files) and most of the government systems are way behind the curve, but, she says, there is no evidence that her system was hacked. (well, except for the female staffer of Bill Clinton’s whom somebody did get into her e-mails that was on the same server.)

    You gotta know when she’s lying and when she’s not and when she’s being misleading.

    I should point out that Hillary made the state.gov system less secure for awhile.

    In 2010 a phishing filer was installed, but it kept sending e-mail from hdr22@clintonemail.com to Huma Abedin’s and other’s state.gov account into spam. Huma Abedin suggested to Hillary that she should either get a state.gov address or have her clintonemail.com address officially recognized, but they found out that that would subject her clintnemail.com account to Freedom of Information Act searches. Hillary Clinton definitely didn’t want to do that.

    She did not get a separate state.gov address. I think she was afraid she would mix up the accounts, and accidentaly leave some incriminating evidence in government records, or, somewhat more likely, clues.

    What apparently happened was that the anti-phishing spam filter was turned off.

    Then, at later point, I would guess Bryan Pagliano, te pverall pereson in charfge of managing her system, who worked out of Washington, and was on both her personal and the government payroll (I’m not sure fif at that time) went into state.gov and unofficially whitelisted her e-mail address, and the spam filter was turned back on.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  79. LOOK WHO CALLED IT, BEEYOTCHES!

    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/773954516794376192

    That’s why the alt-right wins: we can actually predict things before they happen.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  80. What about that stuff that showed the DNC was conspiring against Bernie, and got the chairwoman poodle dog in trouble?

    LBascom (a49e60)

  81. Oh, that last was for#80…

    LBascom (a49e60)

  82. 59. DNF (ffe548) — 9/9/2016 @ 4:10 am

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/22/fbi-finds-15000-hillary-clinton-emails-didnt-turn/

    Sammeh is a Clintonian level liar.

    Where did you get the impression I had any disagreement with that Breitbart story??

    They found the e-mails,or portions of e-mails, either in the various e-mail accounts of Hillary Clintom aides (only Huma Abedin seems to have bene on clintonemail.com, but both she and Cheryl Mills, for instance, were on hillaryclinton.com, not to mention I think that Huma Abedin had a yahoo.com address) or they found it on backups or old servers that hadn’t been deleted with Bleachbit.

    Hillary Clinton’s lawyers, in 2014/2015, didn’t clean up what was already deleted. So the FBI recovered some.

    Not everything. There is the e-mail that Paul Combetta (whose name came out in today’s New York Times) at Platte River Systems in Denver, Colorado, where the South Platte River runs, deleted sometime between March 25, and March 31, 2015.

    He apparently lied to the lawyers on March 25 that he had already deleted it, or maybe didn’t realize he forgot, but he did it over the next week and told them when he’d done it in the March 31 call.

    He was granted immunity, but didn’t turn on anyone. Platte River’s lawyer (no doubt paid by the Clintons) told him he shouldn’t talk about what he said in his conversation with Clinton lawyer David Kendall on March 31 it because of lawyer-client confidentiality.

    A laptop supposedly disappeared after it was put in the mail.

    A USB drive with a complete backup of all the mail just disappeared without any explanation and may be in the same place now where the Rose Law Firm billing records remained for a decade.

    But there were other places and the FBI recovered about half of the e-mails. The State Department will now make most of those public but the task will not be completed till after the election.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  83. LBascom (a49e60) — 9/9/2016 @ 10:15 am

    What about that stuff that showed the DNC was conspiring against Bernie, and got the chairwoman poodle dog in trouble?

    Well, that wasn’t set up by Bryan Pagliano, and also, none of the accounts of people close to Hillary Clinton were breached.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  84. bezos the original source, has a problem with reading comprehension,

    http://www.thedailystar.net/world/trump-would-spend-billions-more-military-what-1283281

    narciso (d1f714)

  85. narciso@87 Why should it be expected to add up to a coherent plan, since Trump is only advocating this for political reasons? He’s taking ideas off the shelf, obviously, and they may not mesh with themselves or with other things.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  86. @55– Not off a a cliff. Lots of air to mine.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  87. 53. 55. 89.

    Why imagine Trump projects? Here are some real ones, or atleast proposed one:

    http://time.com/4201841/donald-trump-iowa-white-house-ballroom/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/01/white-house-rejects-donald-trumps-offer-build-100-million-ballroom/79647188/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/donald-trump-hotel-washington.html

    Yes, Donald J. Trump is coming to Pennsylvania Avenue, whether he wins the election or not.

    The Trump International Hotel, Washington D.C. will open its doors next week, ensuring that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, will not only be involved in January’s inaugural — the hotel is on the path of the parade — but will also be part of the Washington firmament for many years to come. The list of high-end hotel options in the capital, including the Jefferson, the Madison, the Hay-Adams and the Mayflower, will soon include the Trump.

    It has been one of the most peculiar subplots in a campaign full of them. Even as Mr. Trump zips across the country, trying to whip up support for his candidacy, he has been building a 263-room hotel in a historic federal building, the Old Post Office, six blocks from the White House. And like his campaign, the project has been a polarizing proposition…

    …While Mr. Trump often does little more than license his name to hotels, leaving the management to others, he took complete control of the Post Office project, with his daughter Ivanka handling much of the day-to-day work. Though the building had been underused for decades — and narrowly escaped demolition more than once — it is considered an architectural masterpiece. Built in the Romanesque Revival style, it dates to 1899; it is the tallest high-rise federal building in the city…

    …Both the original architect for the project, Arthur Cotton Moore, a sixth-generation Washingtonian who has worked on numerous landmark buildings in the city, and Mr. Cullinane, who was originally hired to oversee the renovation, quit along the way.

    Mr. Moore, who is credited with almost single-handedly saving the Old Post Office from the wrecking ball in the 1970s, stepped down less than a year after he helped Mr. Trump win the bid, citing a medical issue. He declined to comment, but Mr. Cullinane was blunt about the reasons for his departure.

    While the exterior of the building is unchanged, Mr. Cullinane said the Trumps had reneged on many of their stated commitments to preserve elements of its interior, carpeting over the original marble floors, covering the windows overlooking the atrium, removing the original plaster walls and using gold leafing.

    He also said the Trumps had assured a preservation committee that they would not use heavy backlighting on the exterior of the hotel, but then reversed course, behavior which he characterized as typical for the operation.

    “The model of the office is you apologize, you don’t ask permission,” Mr. Cullinane said.

    The architect who succeeded Mr. Moore, Hany Hassan, disputed the suggestion that the renovation was insensitive to the building’s history. “They followed the rules and the standards of historic preservation meticulously,” he said of the Trumps…

    …This is not the only controversy hovering over the hotel. Mr. Trump is in litigation with two well-known chefs who backed out of the project last summer, after the candidate referred to Mexican immigrants illegally entering the United States as rapists and murderers. And he is suing the District of Columbia in an effort to reduce his tax bill for the property.

    The Trumps tried to bring in another celebrity chef. Among those contacted was Tom Colicchio, a founder of Gramercy Tavern in New York. “I said, ‘Absolutely not,’” Mr. Colicchio said.
    They eventually abandoned the idea. The hotel will feature a restaurant from the BLT franchise, BLT Prime, when it opens to a limited number of guests on Sept. 12. A “grand opening” event including the entire Trump family is slated for late October, shortly before Americans go to the polls….

    “I left because I couldn’t support what they were doing to the building,” he said in an interview. “They were covering up or tearing out everything that was historic.”

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  88. There are anumber of other little points I picked up in tghe lasst week.

    for instance (I’m not clear on exactly what it says since only one word (shredded) was in quotation marks in the news story) bt Cheryl Mills may have shredded some of the e-mails that were printed out from the server before the printouts were turned over to the State Department.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)


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