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7/8/2016

More on Dallas: Dead Suspect Identified, Three Others in Custody [UPDATED – Sally Kohn Hot Take]

Filed under: General — JVW @ 10:27 am



[guest post by JVW]

As a follow-up to last night’s developments in Dallas, here has what has transpired since I signed off almost 12 hours ago.

* The death toll has risen to five: four Dallas Police Department officers and the Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer.

* The suspect who had been holed up in the parking garage at the nearby community college was killed when a police robot detonated an explosive near him as he was exchanging gunfire with police. He has been identified as Micah Xavier Johnson, 25, of Mesquite. His claims of having scattered bombs throughout downtown appear, fortunately, to be untrue.

* The Dallas Morning news says that three people are in custody but are not cooperating with police. These are likely the three who were arrested last night: a female suspect and two (presumably) male suspects who were said to be carrying camouflage tote bags. Before his death, Johnson claimed to be acting alone.

* Quoth the President:

[. . .] there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. Police in Dallas were on duty, doing their jobs, keeping people safe during peaceful protests. These law enforcement officers were targeted, and nearly a dozen officers were shot.

[. . .] I believe that I speak for every single American when I say that we are horrified over these events, and that we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas. According to police, there are multiple suspects. We will learn more, undoubtedly, about their twisted motivations. [. . .]

For now, let me just say that even as yesterday I spoke about our need to be concerned, as all Americans, about racial disparities in our criminal justice system, I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day, protecting us and protecting our communities.

Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us. We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. And in the days ahead, we’re going to have to consider those realities as well.

Never miss that opportunity to make a gun control pitch, Mr. President.

[UPDATE] – Sally Kohn weighs in heavily with the stupidity:

If there is a trophy for worst media hot take, I think we all know where we can ship it.

– JVW

118 Responses to “More on Dallas: Dead Suspect Identified, Three Others in Custody [UPDATED – Sally Kohn Hot Take]”

  1. And yes, there are initial unsubstantiated reports on some websites that the shooter was affiliated with a local mosque. I left that out of the main body of the post until we get confirmation from local authorities, who thus far have not linked this to terrorism and have pointed out that Johnson did not have a police record.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  2. TEXAS OPEN CARRY + NO ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN = 5 DEAD DALLAS COPS. THANK YOU, NRA.

    DCSCA (a343d5)

  3. Sounds like the Fred dormer profile, also the Washington navy yard shooter.

    narciso (732bc0)

  4. Someone should ask the President if this was also a racist attack, seeing as how the shooter reportedly targeted white officers. But that’s not the correct use of the word “racist” in some circles, including those in which the President seems comfortable.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  5. The gun control pitch is what the speech was all about it. That’s the first thing that I expect when I see some high profile crime like this.

    TheNaBr (0c7c2f)

  6. President Troll gotta troll. Obviously, none of the MSM will ask the question that should always be asked of those who shill for gun control before the bodies of the victims are cold: “What law are you advocating that would have prevented what happened today?”

    M. Scott Eiland (1edade)

  7. Answer: uh uh um, we need a national gun registry so that we can find all these gun owners, prosecute them for owning guns, and confiscate all the firearms like that did in Australia.

    P.S. I learned about that plan in the news.

    TheNaBr (0c7c2f)

  8. JVW, it can’t be racist if it’s against whites since only whites can be racist. I denounce you!

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  9. At least one of the officers killed in the line of duty appears to have been Latino, but I’m sure the NY Times will come along any moment now and tell us that he was in fact a “white Hispanic.”

    JVW (eabb2a)

  10. A three tour iraq vet.

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. Do Lynch and Obama really believe their cumbaya approach is going to make all white people suddenly say “By golly you are right – we are biased beyond all recognition and equally responsible for every bad thing that happens to a black person. What can we do to help build the bridge?” to which the BLM movement would immediately issue a statement saying “The struggle has been won. Let’s join hands drop the vitriol and sing give peace a chance!”

    Good lord almighty. Obama built this and now he has to maintain it to keep it from exploding….

    In California there are Latin gang members targeting black gang members. Looks like this will be a summer to rival 1968….

    spokanebob (6797b5)

  12. Earlier (but opast noon) on WABC 770 AM in New York Ron Kuby said one things we have not been hearing is the mantra, “to stop bad guys with guns you need good guys with guns” – because here you had good guys with guns.

    A female voice on the radio at the same time said, in a manner to semi-correct him, that it was an ambush.

    Ron Kuby said the name Xavier doesn’t seem to fit/have anything to do – something like that with Black Muslims. He once made that mistake many years ago when he was about 18. There was somebody with the name Xavier and he thought that X was something like Malcolm X. Somebody had to tell him that the Catholics have been using that for a very long time.

    The 3 peopple who weer arrested who are not talking sound like accomplices, not shooters, although maybe it could include one or more.

    Was the plan that Micah Xavier Johnson was going to take the responsibility/credit for all of it? If so, did anybody involved seriously think that really could fly?

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  13. 8. Is the 2nd one a “step” Latino (two with last names, but one a little more obvious than the other). Begs the question – when (as in what time of the day yesterday) was Geronimo Yanez named as the Minnesota police officer in question? He had described as Asian (may still be a Fillipino with that name) in previous reports.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  14. 1.And yes, there are initial unsubstantiated reports on some websites that the shooter was affiliated with a local mosque
    The report linked in the comments to the other thread said it was a Nation of Islam mosque.
    Meaning the motive would have been racism pure and simple, not jihadism.

    kishnevi (870883)

  15. Ruby which what you pull from the bottom of your shoe.

    narciso (732bc0)

  16. Ron Kuby!?!?

    Pull teh other one, Sammeh…

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  17. I remain horrified that TFG got re-elected. The 3rd week in January can’t come soon enough.

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  18. Seriously Angela Davis wasnt available, try bobby sale.

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. …then NOI, like the sleazy horndog lawyer version of LaRaza, should seek a name change. I think had the Nation of Islam had its feet to the fire pressed harder, many of its members would have slithered back to Sunday services for the Lawd.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  20. … when people are armed with powerful weapons

    When haven’t “people” been armed with [relatively] powerful weapons? The operative word in this hypothetical argument isn’t “when”, nor is it “[powerful] weapons”, rather it is “people”. In Obama’s fairy land, only men of great integrity, bureaucrats and political operatives mainly, “people” like James Comey, or Lon Horiguchi, will be armed with powerful weapons, and peace will reign over all the land. This future would be similar to much of history where the elite had monopolies on armor and weapons, and the rest were consigned to serfdom, or certain death, a death often prolonged and highly public to encourage proper respect for the ruling elite.

    The reality is that weapons, powerful weapons, will be with us forever. And even if Obama gets every law-abiding person to turn in their weapons, many will not. These will be, by definition, the non-law-abiding citizens. And among these “many”, there will be a large number who continue to present a threat to every policeman who is just out fulfilling his quota of traffic tickets to keep the metropolitan slush fund solvent, or who is called upon to intervene in a domestic dispute. The police will continue to exercise extreme “caution” and innocents, like the baby who had a flash-bang thrown in her crib, or the two men gunned down by the police this week, will continue to be slaughtered. The death toll of innocents may not change at all.

    The solution is to have functional schools that prepare everybody for work in a modern society. A society in which each person has the satisfaction and pride of knowing that he or she has earned their way, and knowing that they have alternatives if the present job doesn’t work out well. This will not happen as long as progressives, Democrats especially who are beholden to teachers unions, make policy. Instead we will devolve into a morass where the underclass will be required to demonstrate their poverty in order to obtain their government handouts, and the only way to supplement this meager existence will be black market transactions. Which will create a large and steady demand for weapons. Which will be provided across our open borders even if Obama seizes every gun in every tax paying citizen’s household.

    This dystopian future is becoming more and more likely as one piece after another falls into place.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  21. “At least one of the officers killed in the line of duty appears to have been Latino, but I’m sure the NY Times will come along any moment now and tell us that he was in fact a “white Hispanic.””

    – JVW

    Nah – the NYT will be all over the Latino factor, in order to argue that the shooter(s) was/were shooting at cops generally, rather than white cops specifically.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  22. You are undoubtedly right, Leviticus. Thanks for the perspective.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  23. [UPDATE] – Sally Kohn weighs in heavily with the stupidity:

    https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/751462817795084288

    If there is a trophy for worst media hot take, I think we all know where we can ship it.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  24. 20. And those 2 (again 2nd was step-Latino) failed the paper bag test to their doom.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  25. Does the Nation of Islam still exist even? Aren’t they all Sunni Muslims now, like Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or is there some splinter that isn’t? That splinter group would be Louis Farrakhan I guess.

    The SPLC profile seems to be somwwhat out of date. The latest they have is an affiliation with the New Black Panther Party and a 2005 Millions More March still in the planning stages and Farrakhan having prostate cancer.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

    The Anti-Defamation League website doesn’t seem to have anything past December 2013, with Farrakhan not ceding leadership after a heart attack. The prostate cancer was in 1999. In 206, Farrakhan had actually said he was relinquishing leadership. Ish­mael Muham­mad is apossible successor bit o also is W.D. Mohammed, except he is supporting Ish­mael Muham­mad and claimed, in a lec­ture at the Clin­ton Pres­i­den­tial Library in Arkansas, on August 10, 2007 that Ish­mael Muhammad is poised to “clear up the destruc­tion of the reli­gion in the Nation of Islam.”

    http://www.adl.org/anti-semitism/united-states/c/what-is-the-nation-of-islam.html

    I suppose we’ll find out something about his connections – the thing to watch out for is something important that mmight just be dropped later from news reports, but not because it was wrong.. All sorts of things always fall off the news.

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  26. What a week. First we get the Gowdy versus Comey smackdown, and now this. Face it, America no longer exists. Forget about President Trump; now we’re going to have Ultra-Atomic Supersonic Astro-God-King Trump. We’re in coup d’état waters, baby.

    hunson abedeer (80144e)

  27. NoI still exists. I used to see members selling newspapers at main intersections near one of the predominantly black areas of Miami, dressed like clones of Farrakhan, although now that I think of it, I haven’t seen them in a while.
    This is the Facebook page for the Miami mosque. Last posted to about two weeks ago, and those posts are concerned with promoting vaccines with autism.
    https://www.facebook.com/MuhammadMosqueNo.29
    And their regional headquarters was foreclosed on in Sept. 2013

    Farrakhan was preaching “Kill whitey!” or maybe “Kill cops!” last August here.
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/08/04/farrakhan-we-must-rise-up-and-kill-those-who-kill-us-stalk-them-and-kill-them/

    kishnevi (870883)

  28. This took place just a few blocks away from Dealey Plaza, where President Kennedy was killed. The gunfire started at about 9 pm (central time) One policeman shot a shooter but the shooter was protected by a Kevlar vest. He must have been trained, but claimed later, or one person beleived to be involved, Micah Xavier Johnson, claimed later, that he belonged to no organization, and hat he was he only shooter.

    This is the most law enforcement people killed in a single incident since September 11, 2001.

    Attorney General Loretta Lynch says this will be a hate crimes investigation.

    President Obama’s statement:

    http://fortune.com/2016/07/08/transcript-obama-dallas-police-shootings/

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  29. We may never know what their intent was!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  30. Sally Kohn, lol.

    How’s about we ship all stupid-mouth lesbians to Muslim countries with tall buildings?

    nk (dbc370)

  31. From Obama’s statement:

    According to police there are multiple suspects. We will learn more undoubtedly about their twisted motivations, but let’s be clear, there is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks. Grave violence against law enforcement. The FBI is already in touch with the Dallas police; anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.

    I will have more say about this when the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that, even as yesterday I spoke about are need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system. I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree in which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day. Protecting us and protecting our communities. Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us. We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it unfortunately make attacks like these more deadly and more tragic and in the days ahead consider those realities as well.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  32. Dallas News update page:

    http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/news/2016/07/07/hundreds-expected-downtown-dallas-rally-following-shooting-deaths-alton-sterling-philando-castile

    This started out as a continuing story about the demonstration.

    This doesn’t seem to carry the story forward past about 11:30 a.m. CDT.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  33. Trump’s tweet at 4:02 am (Twitter time?)

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/751370918027489280

    Donald J. Trump Verified account 
    ‏@realDonaldTrump

    Prayers and condolences to all of the families who are so thoroughly devastated by the horrors we are all watching take place in our country

    The responses don’t seem so nice.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  34. President Obama:

    even as yesterday I spoke…I also said yesterday

    Obama is determined, as usual, to prove himself consistent.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  35. Many of my Black friends complain that the police patrol aggressively in Black neighborhoods, which leads to confrontations with Black people. They ask why the police don’t behave similarly in White neighborhoods. this is my reply:

    First of all, the police patrol aggressively in Black communities because that is where the crime is. They are trying to protect innocent Black people from crimes committed by criminal Black people. Secondly, if the police were in White neighborhoods instead of Black neighborhoods, the complaint would be …”the police aren’t protecting Black people because they are racist!”.

    You want to solve the problem of police killing Black people? Solve the problem of Black youth violence and crime. Restore what used to be two vital institutions in the Black community..the church and the family. Stop glorifying rap and thug culture.

    gahrie (12cc0f)

  36. The atrocious woman’s use of the apostrophetic “How’s’ (so certain is she of the unassailable logical superiority of her point, she feels she can toss in a little bubba humor) is simply delish, no?

    Eric in Hollywood (6e8226)

  37. The atrocious woman’s use of the apostrophetic “How’s’ (so certain is she of the unassailable logical superiority of her point, she feels she can toss in a little bubba humor) is simply delish, no?

    Urban lesbians shouldn’t appropriate my culture.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  38. As a young kid, the biggest single reason that I quit being the somewhat typical juvenile deliquent (egging cars, borrowing cars, etc) was the fear of immediate retribution (ie someone beating the crap out of me for borrowing their car, etc).

    Confiscating guns from the good guys, just eliminates that fear from the bad guys

    typical juvenile deliquent (debac0)

  39. I think what Sally Kohn meant to say was

    How’s about instead of blaming protest movements for violence against police, we blame guns for violence?!?

    TheNaBr (0c7c2f)

  40. I would not throw that Kohn a bone

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  41. Obama is determined, as usual, to prove himself consistent incontinent.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 7/8/2016 @ 1:09 pm

    FIFY

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  42. “We’re in coup d’état waters, baby.”

    Aw… go smoke some meat, eh…

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  43. At least one of the officers killed in the line of duty appears to have been Latino, but I’m sure the NY Times will come along any moment now and tell us that he was in fact a “white Hispanic.”

    All police officers are white. Even the black ones (“Oreos”).

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. Col.:
    That would explain the girly wrists. And he’s incompetent as well.

    urbanleftbehind (575843)

  45. [UPDATE] – Sally Kohn weighs in heavily with the stupidity:

    https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/751462817795084288

    If there is a trophy for worst media hot take, I think we all know where we can ship it.
    JVW (eabb2a) — 7/8/2016 @ 11:47 am

    Thanks for the link #22:

    She looks like a stereotypical cast member of SNL and someone who is not funny. Such expressions!

    AZ Bob (7d2a2c)

  46. “…I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day, protecting us and protecting our communities.”

    President Dintsay Nuffin

    Ray Van Dune (e169b7)

  47. this twit won the bill ayers award for most illtimed op ed,

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2192

    narciso (732bc0)

  48. Do you recognize the “fundamentally transformed America” obama promised?

    Jim (a9b7c7)

  49. I for one was not expecting Obama to fundamentally change America this way. But I’m white, Christian and straight so I don’t count.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  50. Now they are saying there was only one shooter. The 3 people arrested last night are now assumed to have no connection to the shooting. What Mayor Rawlings, interviewed on the CS Evening News seemed to think is there remained the possibility of a co-conspirator, a trainer, somebody who knew. And they still want any pictures or video they can get – that’s probably on autopilot.

    It started with 5 shots and then there was a pause, and then more. About 800 people were present, at a time when the protest was ending,aet about 8:45 pm central time. Many of the people there began videotaping what was happening and much has been posted online. One photographer says he ddi it first, to let his family know he was still safe – he was within a few yards and saw ricochets – and then to let people know to stay away. I suppose he must have been live streaming it, otherwise that doesn’t make sense.

    I know that there is always a tendency these days to estimate or worry that there might be more shooters, but what bothers me is that I would hope people could tell whether or not the shooting is all coming from one place. We now have these weapons that can fire many bullets one after the other. They were not common 35 years ago or so. It’s these weapons that should just be taken off the market. Not even the police should have them. Or they should be taxed to make them much more expensive. I don’t know in what kinds of circumstances police would need them and also feel free to use them. Of course, their presence or absence only ups or lowers the ante. But that’s worth doing.

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  51. Micah Xavier Johnson, 25, was a veteran of Afghanistan, and spent 6 years in the military, getting out just over a year ago. When police searched his home in Mesquite, they found an arsenal there, and also writings like one thing he labeled a personal combat journal. And also bomb making material, or what he may have hoped could be made into bombs.

    One thing that disturbed Micah Xavier Johnson was white people killing poor, innocent dolphins. He opined (online?) that white people were very cruel to kill such creatures.

    The feds say there is no evidence of an overseas terrorism link. I kind of hate that phrase “no evidence.” That’s not the same as “no reason to believe” although there may be here no reason to believe that yet. Flags have been put at half staff at the white House and other federal buildings and military posts. also at the U.S. Capitol.

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  52. Today both Obama and Hillary announced they have discovered the cause for the killings in Dallas.

    It was due to the hateful anti black Muslim video that also caused the death of the four Americans in Benghazi.

    Both Obama and Hillary vowed that if Hillary is elected president, she will find and prosecute the person or persons responsible and bring them to justice.

    Pts (ce7fc3)

  53. Too many cities, including New York, are now mandating that officers patrol in pairs (does that apply to highway traffic too?) which is a real pverreaction if this was the workof only one person.

    One person doesn’t need to correlate well with what other people are doing.

    Sammy Finkelman (88f52d)

  54. Dolphin lives matter?
    Then why didn’t he attack Sea World?

    There ought to be intense scrutiny of his time in Afghanistan.

    But,as philosophy professors can tell you, “ought” is very different from “is”.

    kishnevi (4aeca3)

  55. 52.
    A second police officer also provides a backup witness, and not just backup force.

    kishnevi (4aeca3)

  56. and we need national guidelines about the use of force, particularly lethal force, so, routine traffic stops don’t escalate into killings

    oh please stinkypig

    we had national guidlines about how to handle classified information and loretta lynch’s pet dog james comey just flat out ignored them

    i got your national guidelines right here babycakes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  57. Incontinent, incompetent, injurious, inglorious, insane and inane.

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  58. Oh, c’mon already, disgruntled batch of junior officers in the USMC. Just do it already. You know we’re waiting. It’d be a whole lot better than the most crooked election in history.

    hunson abedeer (80144e)

  59. Watching all these leftie pundits and politicians trying to walk their heterocyclic back is disgusting. The politicians and newsies feed on this crap. And I thought it wasn’t possible to be any more disgusted with Hillary Clinton than I’ve been for some time now, but that changed after I watched her statement about Dallas today. Criminal, weasel b*tch.

    Trump’s statement was sober, meaningful, and hit the mark.

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  60. Smoke some more meat, Christoph, you hoser.

    Colonel Haiku (236f6f)

  61. you might say it’s a bug with her, going back 45 years.

    http://veritasetparatus.blogspot.com/2008/11/hillary-clinton-and-black-panthers.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  62. My daughter’s best friend’s father is a cop. A real one, that passes my recruitment criteria. How can I look at that little girl and not feel guilty about letting BlackOlivesKalamata-supporting stinky-pig-dry-crotch-damp-diaper become President?

    I am in a bad mood.

    nk (dbc370)

  63. one accident, two coincidence, three insurgency, as for the north charleston incident, another crump julian special, I wouldn’t yet think the matter was settled,

    narciso (732bc0)

  64. Here’s an article from DC Whispers 7/8/16 (emphasis added)

    Guess Which Presidential Candidate Was Scheduled For A Black Lives Matter Event Today?

    Hint: Her first name is Hillary.

    See this earlier announcement via the New York Times:

    “Mrs. Clinton will be in Pennsylvania, with Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., at events that will touch on the police-related deaths of Alton B. Sterling in Louisiana and Philando Castile in Minnesota, as protests raged in Chicago and New York.

    “Mrs. Clinton, who is seeking to reassemble President Obama’s winning coalition amid the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement, has made criminal justice overhaul a hallmark of her campaign.”

    Poor Hillary.

    She was all set to pander once again to the Black vote while attacking law enforcement officers (many of them minorities) all across the country.

    And then a Black Lives Matter member/sympathizer (and possible cohorts) shot and killed/wounded eleven Dallas police officers yesterday – followed by Black Lives Matter supporters CHEERING the deaths of those officer.

    The Clinton campaign then abruptly cancelled the anti-police event that was to be held today. Apparently the optics just didn’t feel right to them.

    Who can possibly state with any semblance of honesty that Hillary Clinton’s version of “leadership” is what America needs at this time?

    ropelight (596f46)

  65. (to the tune of the old disco classic “Freak Out”)…

    Awww…
    Coup D’ETAT!

    Le coup. C’est doux.

    D’ETAT!

    Awww… coup d’état!

    hunson abedeer (80144e)

  66. I want a squad of robots

    mg (31009b)

  67. you say that, but ultron, the terminator and the matrix would suggest otherwise,

    narciso (732bc0)

  68. Watching Teh Megyn Kelly Show anymore is like saltpeter. God Almighty, what a klown.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. minotaur and bronco looked pretty good

    mg (31009b)

  70. CFAP!*
    FAP!
    FAP!
    FAP!
    ….
    FAP!

    *Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project

    nk (dbc370)

  71. “I have been somewhat under the weather since my doctors
    informed me that I have an acute case of Post Islamic Stress Trauma
    with Apologetic Whitehouse Fatigue (PIST-AWF). For those of you who do
    not know what that is, PIST-AWF is a newly defined disease that is
    found to be widespread and highly contagious.

    Symptoms include, but may not be limited to: Severe pain of the
    scalp from pulling your own hair while viewing the President pander to
    Muslim terrrorists. Loose bowels from swallowing the fact America elected
    Obama twice. Extreme hunger due to vomiting from nightly seeing
    terrorists murdering innocent people.

    If you feel you have Post Islamic Stress Trauma with Apologetic
    Whitehouse Fatigue, please notify your local election board and place
    your name on the list for a cure. It is expected, and sincerely hoped,
    that the cure will be available in November of 2016.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  72. That link above gives a whole different view of the event in MN, like the fellow was stopped because he looked like an armed robbery suspect and had a hand gun visible, and there is no record of him even applying for a permit,
    live video hoax.

    Anybody see that elsewhere???

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  73. a friend pointed out he didn’t quite fit the description, however his social media suggests he was likely to provoke officers regardless,

    narciso (732bc0)

  74. The site was Conservative Treehouse, which offered up a story a few months ago that did not pan out. But there is nothing inherently improbable and actually much of it does not directly conflict with the original narrative. Broken tailight may be the excuse for stopping and the BOLO the real reason, etc. The hairstyle and beard are similar enough in my view.

    But both this and the Louisiana case will sink out of view now.

    kishnevi (082931)

  75. Thanks

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  76. this is when I reenact the mogatu scene from zoolander,

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/08/loretta-lynch-dallas-black-live-matter-shooting/

    narciso (732bc0)

  77. “The site was Conservative Treehouse, which offered up a story a few months ago that did not pan out. But there is nothing inherently improbable and actually much of it does not directly conflict with the original narrative. Broken tailight may be the excuse for stopping and the BOLO the real reason, etc. The hairstyle and beard are similar enough in my view.”

    Allen West likes Conservative Treehouse. This is not an endorsement, from me, of the site. I think West can tend toward being a bit credulous.

    However, I linked to it mostly because I knew it had links to all of the attacks on police within the last day. Aside from that, even though I believe MD is probably right and the guy who was shot was probably not an armed robber, it does establish that the police were investigating a robbery, which may partially explain, if not excuse, the officer’s possible overreaction.

    It is odd that the girlfriend claimed they were stopped for a broken taillight when they had working taillights. Plus, she never said anything about them being stopped as robbery suspects. Possibly the officer didn’t want to spook them and made up a story about a taillight? Or is it that she was lying? I don’t know.

    Interesting though. It will come down to her credibility vs. the officers, as well as any video/audio and other witnesses (the shooting cop’s partner) the police have.

    But sure, take their theory with a grain of salt.

    Denver Guy (09f80c)

  78. Coup D’ETAT!

    There is nothing wrong with America that conquering Canada won’t solve. We can blame it on Trump.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  79. I think we had a contingency plan for Canada, as recent as the second world war, we could take alberta, and they could annex the northwest territory deal,

    narciso (732bc0)

  80. Annex, schmannex. That would let BC vote, the rotten commies. BTW, where does Christoph live?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  81. no you misunderstand washington and oregon can become part of canada, and we take alberta, the other texas,

    narciso (732bc0)

  82. Well, she said he was reaching for his license,
    if he didn’t have one…

    The lie of Ferguson began early as the misdirection of a robbery co-defendant,
    live streaming immediately after the event with perhaps a false literal narrative…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  83. Here ‘s an excerpt from Bob Price at Breitbart Texas 7/8/16

    Confirmed: Dallas Shooter was Member of Houston New Black Panther Party

    HOUSTON, Texas – Micah X. Johnson was a member of the Houston New Black Panther Party. … As head of the Houston Chapter, Quanell X said Johnson was only a member for about six months. He did not say when that affiliation began or ended. Breitbart Texas has reached out to Quanell X for clarification. No response was immediately available. Breitbart Texas was present at an armed march carried out by the Houston New Black Panther Party in Waller County last summer. This writer took photos and video of the armed marchers at that time. One of the members holding an AR-15 rifle appears to be Micah X. Johnson…

    ropelight (596f46)

  84. Man Demonstrates How Alton Sterling Could Have Posed a Deadly Threat to Cops Who Shot Him.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  85. Yup. Good ole Quannel Ralph Evans. First thing, and I mean “thing”, that came to my mind when I heard of a sniper shooting cops in Texas.

    nk (dbc370)

  86. sadly so, although I thought of the black liberation army, that targeted cops in ny in the 70s, ‘ead about them in time magazine’

    narciso (732bc0)

  87. Dallas Massacre: Progressives, You Built It, You Own It
    Once again we see that it is the left, the progressives, the purveyors of approved thought, the protected ones, the Democratic Party constituents who engage in lethal violence.
    Five decent police offers now lie dead, with more struggling to live. The day before this atrocity, of course, the Progressive Supreme Commander, off on some pointless trip to Europe, and his minions, e.g., the dimwitted governor of Minnesota, the Congressional Black Caucus, lectured us on our racism and on the need to reflect on our society, etc. In fact, even after this massacre, we have the usual idiots, and, of course, I do mean Reverend Jesse “Never Waste an Opportunity for Some Press” Jackson still going on and on about Trump and white racism. Give it a rest, Rev, give it a rest. Go reflect on how you and your corrupt associates–including your son–have betrayed the legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr.

    http://www.thediplomad.com/2016/07/dallas-massacre-progressives-you-built_8.html

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  88. My next-door neighbor’s son, a Chicago cop, was killed by a rooftop sniper in Cabrini Green in 1968.

    nk (dbc370)

  89. But, I’d like to point out something to the apologists, I’m looking at you, papertiger, of the shootings of Sterling and Castille. The response of the Dallas police to “black man with a gun!!1!”. With eleven of their own shot, five dead, they did not gun down the guy with the rifle they misidentified as a person of interest. They took his gun, they took him in, questioned him and let him go.

    Just think about it.

    nk (dbc370)

  90. one of the first such shootings of police, was officer estefan, in 1988, it was also a traffic stop, and the subject was a person of interest,

    narciso (732bc0)

  91. you nwver know, what you will be facing,

    http://www.odmp.org/officer/4636-police-officer-victor-estefan

    narciso (732bc0)

  92. to end on a lighter note, for the evening,

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/hipster_hoax/

    it seems they are not really that far gone down under,

    narciso (732bc0)

  93. How did Mark Dayton get elected Governor of Minnesota? He can barely string three words together without sounding like a stammering drunk.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  94. She – Diamond Reynolds – knew this was the outcome her buddy was headed for. That’s why she recorded it with calm detachment. Reciting the practiced cover story.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  95. short answer, a conservative lifey doodle, emmer won the gop primary, the old bulls ran an independent candidate, governor target, slipped in,

    narciso (732bc0)

  96. nk (dbc370) — 7/8/2016 @ 10:15 pm

    BOLO = Be On the Look Out…its a police term.

    No – Don’t be wiping the figments of your guilty conscious on me.

    That was a righteous shoot by Officer Hirohito.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  97. And another thing, that governor being useless, the Sheriff of Ramsey county Matt Bostrom needs to get out ahead of this thing. Report all of the facts. Nothing held back on account of his wanting to catch anther badguy later down the road.

    Hell with that. He needs to put it out there today, this minute, yesterday even, for the sake of public safety.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  98. Call Fox. CNN. Appear on Sally Kohn if no one else will have him.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  99. I totally love how liberals who assert that we don’t know what Hillary’s intent was, are always so eager to establish what a police officer’s intent was.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  100. Geronimo had no intent from all the facts available. He was a skittish coward who should never have been trusted with a gun.

    Cowards cannot be trusted with guns. Whether they’re cops or civilians. They will use their gun as a substitute for balls; they will shoot when they shouldn’t; and not shoot when they should.

    nk (dbc370)

  101. And WTF do you mean “guilty conscience”?

    nk (dbc370)

  102. And I’m not alone. Both the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation think there’s something fishy about the shooting of Castille. Of course, they’re liberals with guilty “consciouses”(sic) who selectively apply intent, right?

    nk (dbc370)

  103. They can be easily fooled,watch the dancer upstairs for a south American perspective.

    narciso (732bc0)

  104. Flip the story back to something like reality.
    Robbery suspect (jpg).

    Not a broken taillight stop, but in reality an All Points Bulletin Be On the Look Out for an armed robbery suspect (as confirmed by the recording to the dispatcher). That’s the first lie Diamond told.

    The second one was her crook doesn’t have a CCW to reach for, but he did have a gun sitting in his lap (as confirmed by Diamonds video). Which is her second lie.

    I’m not doubting her tears. :eyeroll: Of course she didn’t have any tears. Shocked but not grief stricken. That’s a clue. She knew it would happen. She knew the path Castile was on. They had discussed it many times.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  105. Democrats’ contradictions are coming home… to roost!

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/agitators-hurl-rocks-phoenix-police-chant-shoot/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  106. Conservative nuthouse. lol

    That BOLO assonates like Blue Wall to me, and it’s besides the point, anyway. A skittish cop being scared of you does not carry the death penalty in any lawbook I’ve read.

    nk (dbc370)

  107. nk,
    I agree with you that skittish people should not be police,
    But for a moment,
    From what I know,
    The recording made by the friend shows a firearm and we here the officer say “I told him to put his hands up”.

    Maybe we will find police guilty of a mistake,
    maybe even criminally negligent,
    but if it turns out that the fellow really had a gun within grabbing distance, and he didn’t put his hands up when told (repeatedly?),
    what is he supposed to do?

    I guess Walker would have knocked him out (leaving no mark) or simply reach in and put some submission hold on him,
    but he wasn’t Walker.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  108. hear

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  109. Thug Scum Trash with something to hide predictably behave in a skittish or guilty fashion whenever law enforcement is engaging them.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  110. kishnevi (4aeca3) — 7/8/2016 @ 4:13 pm

    There ought to be intense scrutiny of his time in Afghanistan.

    He was accused of sexual harassment while he was there (although I don’t know if the case originated from events earlier) and nearly received a less than honorable discharge. The case file is dated May, 2014. His army lawyer, Bradford Glendening, who was assigned to represent him when he (was?)returned to Texas, advised him to waive his right to a hearing in exchange for a reduction in charges, which he did.

    He was in the Junior Officer Training Corps while in high school in Mesquite, Texas and joined the Army Reserve in March 2009 (which might have been shortly before graduating – I don’t know how this works.)

    He was a member of the 420th Engineer Brigade, which is based in Seagoville, Texas (like Mesquite, east of Dallas) and he was a carpentry and masonry specialist. He was in Afghanistan from November 2013 to July 2014.

    The woman who complained about him requested “a protective order against Pfc Johnson pertaining to myself, my family, home, restaurant and any oher place of residence I may reside at, ” and recommended he should receive “mental help.”

    I don’t know what he might have done in regard to Afghans, but there was nothing thar resured in charges apparently.

    Sammy Finkelman (c82029)

  111. nk (dbc370) — 7/8/2016 @ 10:15 pm

    The response of the Dallas police to “black man with a gun!!1!”. With eleven of their own shot, five dead, they did not gun down the guy with the rifle they misidentified as a person of interest. They took his gun, they took him in, questioned him and let him go.

    Just think about it.

    The Dallas Police Department apparently is top quality.

    The New York Times reports that the overall number of police shootings in Dallas has dropped substantially since David O. Brown became police chief in 2010. This has gone even to extent of being wary of foot chases.

    There are still a few. A (mentally disturbed) person holding a screwdriver was fatally shot last year.

    By the way, just a few weeks after he became police chief, his own son killed a man in what the New York Times calls a random attack, and then killed a police man (and apparently was killed himself too, although the New York Times doesn’t directly say so)

    nk (dbc370) — 7/9/2016 @ 5:31 am

    Cowards cannot be trusted with guns. Whether they’re cops or civilians. They will use their gun as a substitute for balls; they will shoot when they shouldn’t; and not shoot when they should.

    But how do you screen them out? It occurs to me that maybe it should be easy for someone to beg off some form of duty, or even the job, without losing too much.

    Sammy Finkelman (c82029)

  112. There’s a report that that cop at the Barton Roiuge shooting may have known he did wrong.

    (To recap, hhere was a report that a man selling CDs outside a store had threate3ned someone with a gun. Two policeman went to that location and found aman selling CDs. For some reason they attempted to arrest him. He resisted. One cop then spotted that the man had a gun in his pocket. He shouted that he had a gun. Duh. The second cop then, even though he had him pinned down on the ground and the man was showing no signs of pulling out his gun, shot him at point blank range in the chest.)

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/11/alton-sterling-witness-cops-took-my-phone-my-surveillance-video-locked-me-up.html

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)


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