Patterico's Pontifications

3/30/2016

Sniveling Coward: That Reporter Could Have Had a Bomb!!!!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:55 am

OH THE HUMANITY!

Donald Trump on Tuesday night offered America a new menace to be afraid of: a reporter with a pen.

Trump, speaking at a CNN town hall event, said former Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields had been holding a pen when she approached him with a question earlier this month at an event in Florida.

“She had a pen in her hand, which Secret Service is not liking because they don’t know what it is, whether it’s a little bomb,” Trump said.

This led Philip Bump to tweet out a horrific possibility. Brace yourself. Maybe sit down first.

This is, by the way . . . not what Trump said at the time.

“I heard that nothing happened. You know, we’re surrounded by Secret Service. We have many Secret Service. You see some of them here. When we left, I spoke to them. Nothing happened. This was, in my opinion, made up,” he told CNN.

“Now I didn’t see anything. All of a sudden we heard about it later on. But the Secret Service said nothing happened. The Secret Service are amazing people. They said absolutely nothing happened. He [Corey Lewandowski] didn’t hear about it until like, the next day,” Trump continued.

Here’s the Sniveling Coward whining about Fields supposedly running up and grabbing him, and Lewandowski acting as an intermediary:

Funny thing, though. At the time, his story was that she was “delusional” and that he “never touched” her:

This was not an isolated claim. Lewandowski repeated it a week aga:

The Daily Mail, or as I now call it, the British Breitbart, had a laughable story citing an anonymous source allegedly from the Secret Service (one wag said the source’s name might be Lorey Cewandowski) saying Fields had touched Trump twice, and they had told her not to:

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a member of Trump’s U.S. Secret Service detail told DailyMail.com on Tuesday that Fields made physical contact with Trump twice – and was warned by agents to stop – before Lewandowski grabbed her arm to pull her away from the billionaire.

‘She crossed in between agents and our protectee after being told not to,’ said the agent, who was present that night in Jupiter.

Yesterday I confronted editor David Martosko on Twitter about some gaping holes in the story.

Martosko took the time to mock me for being “in the cheap seats” (I don’t have access to Trump like the British Breitbart does, in other words) but never answered those questions. Clearly, they weren’t asked. Because there is no good answer to them.

Let’s go over the specifics. I already pointed out how Trump claimed at the time that “the Secret Service said nothing happened.” Nothing in the British Breitbart story about that.

Why doesn’t the video show what this anonymous source said? Look at the video. It does not show any Secret Service person trying to do anything. It does show Lewandowski grabbing Fields. It does not show Fields grabbing Trump. It does show that Trump’s deceptive screengrab, which in isolation looks like him pulling away from her, is really him reaching in his jacket pocket.

Why doesn’t the audio reflect what this anonymous source claims? It’s definitely worthwhile revisiting the audio. This supposed order, barked by Secret Service agents worried Fields might have ONE OF THEM DANGEROUS PEN BOMBS!!!! . . . cannot be heard on the audio.

At all.

The Daily Mail story is rank bullshit.

In conclusion: I feel reassured now that Trump and his team know just how to handle a crisis in a calm manner. Don’t you?

117 Responses to “Sniveling Coward: That Reporter Could Have Had a Bomb!!!!”

  1. Trump.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. He just cannot help himself, Patterico. He must lie, at all costs, over any situation that makes him look small, incorrect, or petty.

    And by doing so, Trump looks…well, small, incorrect, and petty.

    I really think he has horrific judgement. This, right here, is why needs to avoid all debates.

    Trump is losing it.

    So much for the “tough guy” who is plain spoken and direct.

    Furthermore, you caught his opinion on the three most important roles of the Federal government, I hope.

    Now, that is someone who has conservative leanings. Yuge conservative leanings.

    It’s the orange caterpillar controlling his brain, I tell you.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  3. The Daily Mail as a whole is rank bulls***. People who lack the talent to write paperback fiction, so they write tabloid fiction. The Beatles wrote a song about it.

    nk (dbc370)

  4. This really is the weakest of weak sauce. Find some other piddling triviality to obsess over.

    Boris (d466a1)

  5. Your last point is the most important point of all, Patterico. Climbing out of the mud puddle Trump prefers to operate in and focusing on what’s important is the only way to deal with Trump’s intafada .

    crazy (cde091)

  6. Go tie your kangaroo down, sport.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. Thanks for your input, Boris. It was enlightening, and substantive.

    JD (34f761)

  8. When secret service sees someone a foot away thrusting an unknown object towards a president, they should always assume it’s a pen. And they tell me this Patterico guy is a lawyer.

    Jcurtis (74fc02)

  9. The pen is mightier than the sword. Or in this case, a bomb.

    Bored Lawyer (998177)

  10. in actual news that matters,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-netherlands-idUSKCN0WW162

    inspite of mayor bane’s efforts, some attempt was made to warn the authorities,

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. You guys have got to get over Trump. Holy crap you’re obsessed. There is so much more important going on in the world than the constant din of Trump…Trump…Trump. This has gotten beyond Trump derangement syndrome this is pathological obsession.

    Imam Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6)

  12. So now Corey Lewandowki is Secret Service. And reporters “thrusting” microphones and mini-recorders at people is unheard of. And Melania’s breasts are real.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. Just imagine how frightened he would have become if it had been Megyn Kelly armed with a pen. Not to mention, questions.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. When secret service sees someone a foot away thrusting an unknown object towards a president, they should always assume it’s a pen.

    “Of course, this is irrelevant to the current situation, because the Secret Service never saw someone ‘thrusting an unknown object’ towards Trump; they saw someone thrusting a known object towards Trump (knowing that it was a pen). I just like interjecting basic security principles into unrelated conversations. It’s kinda my thing.”

    And they tell me this Patterico guy is a lawyer.

    I’ve seen some fictional works treating prosecutors as distinct from “lawyers”, despite the obvious similarities between the professions. Is this widespread in the (real-life) legal community, or was this just another part of the fiction?

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  15. “I have a pen…and a phone.”

    —Barack Obama

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  16. As nk noted, many of us have known this about the Daily Mail for most of our lives. It’s not called the “daily fail” for nothing. I heard the “pen bomb” remark live and almost couldn’t believe my ears.

    Trump is reminding me more and more of Bill Clinton with his lies. He tells them so often, and is so surrounded by sycophants, that he probably believes what he says at this point.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  17. You guys have got to get over Trump. Holy crap you’re obsessed. There is so much more important going on in the world than the constant din of Trump…Trump…Trump.

    The thing is, Trump stands a good chance of ending up getting the GOP’s nomination, thus having a good chance of winning the Presidency of the USA — and with the other options being Clinton or Sanders.
    Believe it or not, being the Chief Executive of the most powerful military on Earth is quite important. It would be important even if we didn’t have an expansive regulatory state, which will also be largely controlled by the President.
    Plus, of course, this blog caters mostly to political-type events; Patterico & commenters usually go elsewhere for the (ever-shrinking) set of issues not touched by the government and politics.

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  18. I know it is your blog patterico, and this is slightly off topic:
    Did you hear Rump’s incoherent, sentence-fragmented responses last night at the CNN townhall. Specifically: The 3 things the US govt is responsible for is sec’y, healthcare, and education?
    The imbecile didn’t even remember saying he would abolish the US D.O. Ed.

    jb (8a9f1d)

  19. fine knock yourselves out,

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/donald-trump-campaign-manager-assault-221353#ixzz44O04Kn7s

    clinton should have been shunned from the first day, hung in stocks and beaten mercillessly, instead he helped create the subprime crisis, slashed our military, just as al queda was ramping up, conjured up that phony surplus that kasich was a party to,

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. yes, the leviathan just grows and grows, it doesn’t matter that every task assigned to it is a failure, take california, where cleverness of the kind commended here, has turned it into a one party regime, where it is accepted apriori that it can be turned, the jester kashkari was the latest pretense to parity,

    narciso (732bc0)

  21. I love how Team Trump’s story has evolved from “Corey didn’t touch her!” to “She might have had a bomb!”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  22. who cares it’s not a federal case, should he have apologized sure, get on with it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  23. It is a federal case. How does the Secret Service feel getting blamed for what Lewandowski dooded?

    “She had a pen in her hand, which Secret Service is not liking because they don’t know what it is, whether it’s a little bomb,” Trump said.

    nk (dbc370)

  24. “A Breitbart journalist armed with a pen is no more dangerous than the JV Team!”

    —Barack Obama

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  25. It’s kinda hard to “get over it” when Trump refuses to acknowledge what actually happened, and about how he and Lewandowski made it a much bigger deal than it ever should have been because of the Great Leader mindset within the candidate and the campaign that can never admit it was wrong about even the slightest things. Instead they keep changing their story and bringing up new stupidities and lies to defend against the explosion of old stupidities and lies.

    I don’t support Trump, but if I did, I might be a little concerned about how Clintonian that is.

    Evan3457 (057459)

  26. Things like this tell us how truthful a candidate and his staff are, and what kind of character they have. I think many Trump supporters want a Jacksonisn who is ruthless and willing to do anything to get what he wants, so they see this story as showcasing positive qualities. It is positive until you are in the crosshairs. I worry that in the long run, Trump won’t fight for anyone but himself and his business interests.

    DRJ (15874d)

  27. Boris teh Spider Derider

    Colonel Haiku (9be3ce)

  28. We already know his wives are for sale when he wants them to be. That leaves himself, his kids and his business interests as things he will protect. The rest of us are negotiable.

    DRJ (15874d)

  29. Well, Trump could have made this protest before going with “it never happened; she lied.”

    If it was a nothing, he turned it into a something with his own lying abusive mouth.

    SarahW (67599f)

  30. And if it was a something, you’d think this claim would have been available to him a week ago.

    SarahW (67599f)

  31. I think many Trump supporters want a Jacksonisn who is ruthless and willing to do anything to get what he wants, so they see this story as showcasing positive qualities.

    That’s exactly it.

    We view this as crude and stupid and illogical and nasty; they see it as him being tough, as a fighter, as someone who will stand up to the establishment and liberal media and GOPe and all of these forces that are destroying their lives and the country.

    For them, this is a small diversion to the real problem: saving the country. How Trump does that doesn’t matter. He will save it and if he has to play rough, if he has to be tough, then so be it.

    The ends – saving the country – justifies any means.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  32. Mr Graph wrote:

    The thing is, Trump stands a good chance of ending up getting the GOP’s nomination, thus having a good chance of winning the Presidency of the USA — and with the other options being Clinton or Sanders.

    Sadly, no. While Mr Trump certainly stands a good chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination, if he does the Democratic nominee will win the general election, period. the polls suggest that nearly half of Republican women would not vote for Mr Trump.

    The saddened Dana (f6a568)

  33. I think the deal Trumper’s expect to strike with the public is “of course we yanked that bitch, she should have known her place and kept her mouth shut, and no dame who don’t know better ain’t gettin’ no fox fur off us.” We know he did it and we approve wholeheartedly, and f them, in other words.

    SarahW (67599f)

  34. Just a quick aside, most of my UK friends and American ExPats call the Daily Mail, the Daily Wail. Since they go to 12 on the outrage scale pretty fast on minor issues and slow to respond to critical omissions that make the LAT responses seem like they are the speed of light.

    Also, the UK was the home of tabloid gonzo journalism, so they know all about being wrong and being wrong big; but not about how to right a wrong let alone admit it.

    Charles (f99bd6)

  35. Even if he is innocent, any campaign manager for any other candidate would be putting his candidate first, and step aside, for the good of the campaign, even while maintaining his innocence. Such a campaign manager would look forward to a nice position in his candidate’s administration, if his candidate wins.

    But not Pipsqueak Lewandowski!

    The realistic Dana (f6a568)

  36. We know he did it and we approve wholeheartedly, and f them, in other words.

    I’m afraid so. Although some seem to rationalize it a bit differently.

    But anyone raising this issue simply hates Trump and doesn’t want to save the country or is ignorant of the fact that the country is in mortal danger and Trump is our last best hope.

    Trump WILL save the country, he’s the only candidate who recognizes the dangers it faces – and these other matters are either meaningless next to that or are proof of how tough he is in that effort.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  37. DRJ, your Jacksonian allegory is spot on. It even provides context to that crack from a couple months ago about Trump shooting someone down in the street. After all, didn’t Andy Jackson once kill a man in a duel?!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  38. The importance of keeping focus on the lies and abuse Trump has generated over III’s soft porn career revelation and the manhandling by his close thug will be revealed in Wisconsin next week. Marquette has a poll coming out today or tomorrow which will serve as an aid in maintaining focus on the liar’s minimal political skill.

    He’s a liar and a defaulter, never a fighter and getting him to No Mas! can be done through steady punching.

    Rick Ballard (698c22)

  39. this is an ongoing saga it will be interesting to see how it plays out

    happyfeet (831175)

  40. SteveMG:

    The ends – saving the country – justifies any means.

    Good point. Trump and his supporters are channeling Alinsky.

    DRJ (15874d)

  41. Apparently so, Cruz Supporter.

    DRJ (15874d)

  42. Trump supporters best hope is that Trump sells them out last.

    DRJ (15874d)

  43. If he has to kill families of terrorists, so be it. If he has to arrest Muslims, so be it. If he has to torture terrorists, so be it. If he has to change libel laws, so be it. If he has to…..

    It’s a long list of things in his quest to save the nation that his supporters uncritically endorse.

    This Lewandoski/Fields matter is just a small example of it. But it’s revealing of their mindset.

    And especially his.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  44. Here’s how it plays out – no apology ever, Trump (et al) will sustain a generic liars sequential strategies. People who don’t like the lying may be more motivated to push him away, but they were motivated already. Maybe some of his supporters start not curbing their enthusiasm but hearing the curb your enthusiasm theme song.

    I still think he has no intention of being president, and means to lose to Hillary, but I’ll never have the satisfaction of being proved correct since the effect will be the same no matter the intention.

    SarahW (67599f)

  45. these are for reals examples of what real people eat for breakfast in japanland

    and here are 10 kinda-fussy restaurant versions

    i’m looking into finding somewheres i can easily get some “natto” (which looks disgusting)

    i have a place near me i can try

    happyfeet (831175)

  46. Here’s how it plays out – no apology ever, Trump (et al) will sustain a generic liars sequential strategies.

    hmm i think what will *maybe* happen as we turn to the general is that the Fields saga will be subsumed into a larger narrative of how Mr. Trump and his team handle a hostile press what is whiny and entitled like flakes of delicately frozen water

    happyfeet (831175)

  47. The bananas in milk look okay.
    I’m much more comfortable with scandi weird gummy fishy foods, though.

    SarahW (67599f)

  48. Happyfeet that might have worked if they had fessed up right away, with a firm but realistic regret that access to Trump is a jostle-y business and real reporters ready for the real world deal with it.

    Instead he chose the “I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it” option and the attempt to reshape is just too frigging late.

    SarahW (67599f)

  49. i agree with all you said sarah but that’s only if you’re following along

    i’m not sure how much of this is really penetrating

    happyfeet (831175)

  50. Lewandowski brushed passed 10,000 people that day like he does every day, not having the slightest either of who they are, or their names. When asked whether he violently assaulted a woman he said it was a delusional lie — which it clearly was if you watch the video. If I asked Patterico whether he assaulted some Jane Doe in an airport or other crowd he would truthfully deny it, even if some surveillance tape later showed that some part of his body did in fact come into contact with her.

    If, in fact, Lewandowski actually recognized Fields and deliberately pinched her arm, yes, he’s guilty. But right now that scenario rests on the highly questionable statements of Fields, who of had no idea at the time who touched her and clearly made up a story of almost being thrown to the ground. It’s a delusional lie to paint this story as an example of an unprincipled, dishonest, out of control campaign. The accusers and the media and now this blog are being dishonest. Trump is doing exactly what he should, rather than bowing and scraping to the hounds.

    Do I hope this faux-scandal brings him down? Absolutely! I’m with Cruz 100% of the way. Do I hope that Hillary goes down for murdering Vince Foster? Fine with me! But I’m not going to pretend that she did it, or recommend it as a campaign theme.

    Beware: if Cruz somehow wins the nomination, this behavior will come back to haunt you. If you think Trump’s rallies are violent (they’re not) just wait til the press gets ahold of Cruz. Remember how they acted that tea parties rallies were like KKK rampages, and how Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matters were “peaceful” multicultural celebrations. And you can be sure there will be another Michelle Fiekds claiming that some Cruz staffer raped her, just as surely as Bill Clinton never raped anybody.

    Average Joe (df82bb)

  51. If her pen is a threat, what about the cell phone in her right hand, raised and almost touching the candidate’s chest, well before she is yanked to her left? A cell phone with just a tiny amount of properly packaged C4 could do serious damage at that range (2″). But the real damage the Trump campaign was concerned about at the time may have been the recording of the candidate’s answer to her question in that cell phone should he have stopped and entered into a dialogue.

    Trump’s behavior is not what I want to see in a President of the United States. Up to this incident I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But it’s been three weeks and all he’s done is to dig himself a hole, and he is still digging. In fact, he’s hired a backhoe to expand the project. His ditch has now crossed the fence between Trump’s mansion and Cruz’s backyard, and he is threatening to topple the Cruz family into the slime.

    Ugly and uglier.

    BobStewartatHome (7b7fb2)

  52. Even if he is innocent, any campaign manager for any other candidate would be putting his candidate first, and step aside, for the good of the campaign, even while maintaining his innocence. Such a campaign manager would look forward to a nice position in his candidate’s administration, if his candidate wins.

    But not Pipsqueak Lewandowski!

    Realistic Dana,

    I think this comes from Trump – you don’t step down, you don’t apologize, you don’t do anything that might make me look weak or vulnerable. And certainly you don’t do anything that infers some sort of responsibility/guilt.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  53. The story isn’t the battery, which was trivial and could have been easily excused with a brief acknowledgement and apology. If that had been done, Fields would clearly have been nothing but the attention seeker the Trumpkins claim.

    No, the story is that Trump and Lewandowski lied about it, doubled down and immediately went to smearing her. Now their story changes 180 degrees without acknowledgment to how brave Lewandowski was to save Trump from the assassination attempt that the secret service missed.

    This isn’t anyone we want in the White House.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  54. Average Joe, as trolls go that was mediocre.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  55. This isn’t anyone we want in the White House.

    if i had to pick between Mr. Trump and hillary I think it’s a very easy decision

    Mr. Trump is the best choice in that scenario for sure

    happyfeet (831175)

  56. happyfeet, I was ABC (Anyone But Clinton) and agreed with you until about a week ago …

    SPQR (a3a747)

  57. SPQR, as refutations go, yours was content-free.

    Average Joe (df82bb)

  58. It will be very sad if we are left with a choice between the worst of two “Anyone But…”s

    MD soon back in Philly (ef31c4)

  59. And SPQR, you owe and apology to the woman who says you brutalized her the other day. Yeah, she actually ran into you and you didn’t see her face as your hand deflected her and she lying about the “brutalized” part, but man up and say you’re sorry!

    Average Joe (df82bb)

  60. i have faith in my heart Mr. SPQR that if it comes to pass that Mr. Trump is the nominee we’ll once again find ourselves in congenial agreement

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. just wait til the press gets ahold of Cruz.

    I think we don’t need to be told this,
    we went through this already with the Cruz-birtherism,
    if it ain’t one thing it will be a dozen thing more, in fact, 12! more.

    MD soon back in Philly (ef31c4)

  62. Hey, Lewandowski has the same haircut as me in this photo! http://www.newsweek.com/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump-solar-power-442314 A little shorter on top.

    nk (dbc370)

  63. probably since facts get in the way, re fall 2008, maverick didn’t matter he folded like a cheap couch,

    narciso (732bc0)

  64. The Alinskyites and their brethren have “the prince of the power of the air” on their side,
    and he is the “father of lies”,
    so they will be busy…

    Only one possibility of victory,
    which is to appeal to the only Higher Authority,
    no matter how quaint and medieval that may sound.

    MD soon back in Philly (ef31c4)

  65. a new president and plus a new Sam Hunt cd in the same year this is very exciting

    but not if it’s Hillary

    please don’t do this on a pikachu

    please don’t crush my dreams

    happyfeet (831175)

  66. The Daily Mail story is rank bullshit.

    The Daily Mail has long been one polaroid away from titty-mag complement the Sun. Trump with better legs and slightly more presence of mind, if you will.

    To be honest this was something of a vote in their favour. It’s only in recent years that the publication seems to have developed the kind of pretensions typical of the Independent and the Guardian (the sort of publications which invariably declaim Sunshine Girl nudity but laud Slut Parades to the high heavens).

    JP (bd5dd9)

  67. The fact that this is another politically motivated indictment as was the case with Rick Perry is of course of no interest. The DA is a longtime Democrat who is listed as a Hillary Clinton supporter.

    Nothing to see here.

    mark johnson (e5b2a4)

  68. Been there, done that, Michelle Fields is Tawana Brawley, and Ben Terris is Al Sharpton.

    ropelight (16876d)

  69. apparently not, to be fair, lewandowski ‘gave them a sword’ but it’s an open question whether it will be a flesh wound, or some gangrenous affair, the pattern is on balance, all this kerfluffle generally helps him, and helps obscure, red queen’s listing to port,

    narciso (732bc0)

  70. There is no indictment. There is a complaint signed by Michelle Fields. That is “the indictment” and that’s all “the indictment” there will be. Making s*** up is the Trump hallmark.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. shorthand nk, lewandowski is not going to waste a year on this rank foolishness, that’s what the may 4th hearing is for,

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. He didn’t get to pick it. There’s a court key that assigns cases so they don’t all fall on the same day or in the same courtroom. There are two ways Lewandowski can end it that day. Plead guilty or have a bench trial.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. Even supposing that she had been told not to cross in between the agents and Trump, so what? Since when do Secret Service agents have the authority to give people orders? At most, in some alternative universe where the audio recording showed such a thing, she may have been politely requested not to get between the agents and Trump, and it would have been up to her whether to comply with the request. It certainly would not have justified Lewandowski assaulting her.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  74. more then a rhetorical question,

    https://twitter.com/MaxAbrahms/status/715174414845943809

    narciso (732bc0)

  75. can Corey beat the rap i wouldn’t bet money against him especially if he has no prior record of ever doing downwards grabbing on nobody

    he’s a good boy, kind to animals and he eats his vegetables, shows up to work every morning with a can-do attitude loves his country makes pancakes on sunday and he’s loyal to a fault

    i’m a be remembering him in my prayers and i hope you guys do the same

    happyfeet (831175)

  76. I was ABC (Anyone But Clinton) and agreed with you until about a week ago …

    Sorry, but if a person is truly revolted (as a sane person should be) by just how dishonest, sleazy and incompetent Hillary is, but if he or she ALSO doesn’t like the Republican the Democrat will be running against in November, the only reaction I don’t find deserving of a big snicker is “I’m gonna vote for a third-party candidate” or “I’m going to skip over the part of the ballot where the nominees for president are listed.”

    That snicker goes double for all the people out there who are already quite wishy-washy (Hi, John Kasich!!) when it comes to their ideology.

    Mark (6c93d5)

  77. “Your last point is the most important point of all, Patterico. Climbing out of the mud puddle Trump prefers to operate in and focusing on what’s important is the only way to deal with Trump’s intafada.”

    What’s important is that liberal SJWs get fired from any organizations they control as quickly and as efficiently as possible. Making examples of them is going to require going through a LOT of mud puddles until they get the message that they’re not wanted here.

    The more you make a public spectacle of them, the more you hold them up to as many viewers as possible, saying THIS is the face of the liberal philosophy and lifestyle, the greater your chances of a true reaction, and restoration.

    At this point, it includes Heidi Cruz, who followed the Hillary Clinton Washington life script-tolerate a philanderer in a position of power for a comfortable Washington job. It’s a crappy script. It fits the Clinton MO, not that of an opposition party. Your average American can’t and shouldn’t follow it, nor hold it up as a model for their own mothers and daughters, and certainly not their own future. It forces no hard and final decisions. It destroys both beauty and authenticity among those who follow it, in a way that a philanderer settling down and starting a family with his last wife does not. (Clinton doesn’t count even with their single daughter, by all evidence he’s continued his old ways while Hillary maintains her lesbian relationship with Huma.) Their faces remain as hateful and off-putting as their deeds.

    Dystopia Max (644624)

  78. One would think that if one decides to use physical force, however justified, to move somebody that you’d at least remember this for a couple days. Corey very well might have lied. But these are very busy people under a lot of stress. It’s possible he just simply did not remember what happened, or that it was so incidental to him that he had no idea what Fields was talking about. This is more believable when we consider the exaggerated account of Fields she presented: that Corey tried to drag or pull her to the ground and that she almost fell. What happened is that he pulled her back from Trump, when she had repeatedly touched Trump and invaded his personal space (and, perhaps, after SS had warned her to back off).

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  79. Even supposing that she had been told not to cross in between the agents and Trump, so what? Since when do Secret Service agents have the authority to give people orders?

    Of course they do.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  80. one thing’s for sure

    we’ll need many more posts on this issue for so we can explore the many facets and nuances and come to a complete understanding of what it means and signifies

    happyfeet (831175)

  81. Lewandowski brushed passed 10,000 people that day like he does every day, not having the slightest either of who they are, or their names. When asked whether he violently assaulted a woman he said it was a delusional lie — which it clearly was if you watch the video. If I asked Patterico whether he assaulted some Jane Doe in an airport or other crowd he would truthfully deny it, even if some surveillance tape later showed that some part of his body did in fact come into contact with her.

    These are good points but let’s be honest–Corey did more than brush her, he decided to pull her back. It was not battery under the circumstances and it was certainly something she should have let go but it’s a bit more than what you say here. Frankly, I do find it hard to believe he didn’t remember but it’s possible given how at odds with reality her description of the incident was.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  82. lol happyfeet is complaining about the content

    Old Cristoph says the Trump campaign probably forgot because times are stressful.

    We’re going to need more violin music.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  83. Old Cristoph says the Trump campaign probably forgot because times are stressful.

    I tend to think he did lie but given all the circumstances it’s possible that he genuinely had no idea what Fields was referring to.

    And, yes, everybody that disagrees with you is just some sock puppet of some guy named Cristoph. Makes about as much sense as this “scandal.”

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  84. This is so transparently stupid. If they are afraid of pens, they should be confiscating them when they frisk everyone. And phones. And eyeglasses (they could be bombs, too, especially those big horn-rimmed-ones!). This cannot be mocked enough.

    Next, to prove their lie is good, they will actually start confiscating these things.

    Unsaid is why the AGENT made no move and Junior G-Man Mr L had to reach across, in front of the comatose agent, to grab Ms Fields lest she blow up her suicide pen, and why it took until now to come up with this idiotic story.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  85. But here’s the real deal — every day this BS story is occupying a moment of the press’ time, is a day that Trump has his name in the news and a day he doesn’t have to deal with issues.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  86. A question nobody ever asks of Trump:

    Have you ever had sex that you did not pay for?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  87. The source is a U.S. Secret Service agent who was present

    Stockholm Syndrome.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  88. Randy ted cruz in d.c.madams client book likes black trannys! cnn won’t show video of randy ted and girl friend.

    randy ted (7649f4)

  89. it’s possible that he genuinely had no idea

    If the Trump administration can’t handle the stress of running for president, to the extent that they slander the woman they roughed up because they forgot about it, that’s a powerful reason to reject them. But it’s also absurd. The guy knows what he did. He saw the pictures and the lies evolved. It’s not forgetfulness, it’s consciousness of guilt.

    It’s not like violence is an aberration at a Trump event. It’s not like treating women like garbage is an aberration for that campaign. It’s not like paralyzing fear of female reporters hasn’t dogged Trump for months, to the point where he even skipped the debate before Iowa.

    But you don’t have to guess. Trump claims they attacked Fields because she had a pen-bomb. They didn’t forget this happened. They remember it vividly.

    Trump isn’t the sort of guy you want running the military if he flinches when a 95 pound woman is seen holding a shiny pen. It’s seared into his memory. He could have had to answer her question!

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  90. a day he doesn’t have to deal with issues.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 3/30/2016 @ 12:49 pm

    I agree that Trump has no problem handling this stupidly, with obvious cowardice and lying, because it’s less bad that having to answer questions. As the field narrowed to Cruz, Trump, and Trump’s stalking horse Kasich, Trump can see he’s in a battle of wits with a much smarter guy. Running around the room shrieking at pens and asking how the press are allowed to ask him unscripted questions is his best alternative to actually running on issues.

    If it’s any consolation, two thirds of the GOP and three thirds of the DNC can’t stand Trump. It’s not like this ridiculous campaign is actually a winner. It’s only because the GOP field was crowded with professional politicians… men who ran with no intention of winning, but wanted to soak up attention, that Trump’s third was enough to carry him ahead, the sane vote split for far too long.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  91. ALso he could have easily, in the beginning, allowed that he had no clear recollection of it, the entourage was moving through quickly, and no roughing up was intended at all particularly of Ms Field(blah blah blah.) Whether they want to go for gallant, or subtlely dig at her expectations of gallantness in an egalitarian business, there was no need to smear her as having made up the business out of whole cloth.

    That was just stupid, and there was no excuse for it.

    SarahW (67599f)

  92. Been there, done that, Michelle Fields is Tawana Brawley, and Ben Terris is Al Sharpton.
    ropelight (16876d) — 3/30/2016 @ 10:36 am

    Because we all remember how there was video from many different angles of Tawana being attacked by “white cops.” Oh, yeah, there was no video, and no evidence, physical or otherwise, that Brawley was doing anything but making up a Trump Tower-sized tall story to get her out of parental punishment for being out late.

    If anyone “is Al Sharpton,” ropelight, it’s the Prima Donald. Like Sharpton, he’s…

    1. Seamlessly making completely new schtuff up as the previous completely made-up schtuff gets disproved, to the approval of furiously-nodding empty heads;

    2. Refusing to EVER apologize and perpetually doubling down, even when he’s been proven wrong to anybody who has no emotional investment in affirming his veracity;

    3. Using slander, smears and hate to divide people for the purpose of accomplishing his desired ends.

    So, to summarize this week’s events: Trumpists online have taken to photoshopping condoms in pictures of Amanda Carpenter and (among other things) accused her of giving birth to Ted Cruz’s children and passing them off as her husband’s. Meanwhile, after having earlier this month demanded that Michelle Fields file charges against Corey Lewandowski if she was telling the truth about being grabbed by him, their new story — now that the video makes liars out of them — is that Fields kinda/mighta/coulda been a deadly threat to Trump, that the Secret Service was somehow sleeping on the job as they were walking right beside him, and that Corey’s some kind a hero for having grabbed her (which he initially vigorously denied).

    *_*

    This is what you and others are reduced to in order to justify Trump, ropelight. And if you’re not ashamed of that fact, you can’t be ashamed.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  93. tranny hookers for ted cruz!

    randy ted (7649f4)

  94. The much better looking Dana wrote:

    I think this comes from Trump – you don’t step down, you don’t apologize, you don’t do anything that might make me look weak or vulnerable. And certainly you don’t do anything that infers some sort of responsibility/guilt.

    That might make a good philosophical stand, but you’ve got to ask: how many votes will it cost him?

    The very realistic Dana (f6a568)

  95. But here’s the real deal — every day this BS story is occupying a moment of the press’ time, is a day that Trump has his name in the news and a day he doesn’t have to deal with issues.

    True, but his failure to “deal with issues” hasn’t hurt him much so far, has it?

    His campaign image is that of a tough guy, an outsider, a leader who will get things done.

    This shows him as petty, as out of control, as weak. It hurts his image and this is an image-only based campaign.

    He’s on the defensive right now and he’s unable to break out of that 30-35% hold among primary voters. When he’s on the defensive he flail around. He can’t offer substance; all he can do is counter-punch.

    His negatives have gotten worse and I cannot see how things like this are going to reverse that. This is who he is: it’s not an act or a strategy. He’s thin skinned, unwilling to admit error and, most important, unwilling (and unable) to change course. He’s a one dimensional candidate.

    He’s trapped and all of this talk about him destroying Clinton one-on-one ignores the fact (as I see it) that destroying her isn’t going to do it.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  96. Mr. Trump is very easy to justify first of all who do you think Americans are Mr. Smithee

    a classy people worthy only of classy ivy league trash presidents like food stamp, weirdo mitt romney, that nasty incontinent old woman, and harvardtrash ted?

    NO!

    Americans, as you know, are a stupid filthy cowardly people what subsist on reality tv and food stamps. They hate to work and they love to whine. They love powerball and they hate math.

    Mr. Trump is the perfect president for this loser-ass hyper-indebted sleazy country because he’s letting the beaten down trash of america register a valid protest against the sleazy establishments failed governance.

    The sleazier Mr. Trump is, the more emphatically his support is to be seen as a rejection of ruling class failure.

    Run Donald Run!

    run like a gazelle

    don’t let the haters get you down Donald

    eyes on the prize picklehead

    and thank you for all you do – if not for you we’d have no democracy

    just indiscernible shades of filthy establishment trash

    happyfeet (831175)

  97. sleazy *establishment’s* failed governance i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  98. there was no need to smear her as having made up the business out of whole cloth.

    Yep. It wasn’t just cowardly to do this, it was stupid. Video was bound to pop up. They provoked her into going to the police. They cost her a job at a friendly outlet, that now has no credibility whatsoever and will never attract a good reporter again.

    Trump’s fans will go so far as to say maybe they forgot, to avoid the unpleasant reality that Trump’s guys are morally unqualified for the presidency.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  99. there’s nothing morally wrong with smearing a reporter oh my goodness

    that’s like saying it’s wrong to bite an alligator

    snowflakes are fallin on my head and just like a man whose hands are too big for his head

    nothing seems to fit good

    but I’m not gonna sit around and cry like a snowflake

    because i’m me

    i just wanna be free

    happyfeet (831175)

  100. Why should he change course, admit error, try to move on when he thinks his supporters will support him no matter what? There’s no corrective mechanism or force that makes him change.

    It’s ironic that one of his biggest weaknesses right now is his uncritical supporters. If he was worried about losing them then he might change. But he’s so confident that they’ll support him that he thinks whatever he does – no matter how illogical and self-defeating – is okay. He’s right.

    Because Trump opponents are the liberal media or the establishment or the enemy and one must never give in to them.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  101. Have you ever had sex that you did not pay for?

    This is where I fall back on hackneyed old lines and reply, “Has any man?”

    JVW (9e3c77)

  102. OMG, Ms Fields is hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    When will Trump file charges for, in essence, the same crime?

    One side a bunch of idiots for not de-escalating.

    The other side idiotic for escalating.

    Two sides of the same stupidity.

    Rodney King's Spirit (a089dc)

  103. RKS,

    Pretending you’re not a die hard Trump fan so you can pose as the objective and reasonable guy is pointless after you spammed the thread for hours yesterday, insisting on getting the last word in even if you had nothing to say.

    Everyone who isn’t in the tank is fully aware that Trump lied about these events, smearing the lady in an effort to avoid accountability. Everyone knows Corey did the same. The Trump fan’s last resort is to just say “well everyone sucks! Lump them all in together!” much as happened when Trump started bashing Cruz’s wife for not looking like his nude supermodel quote “piece of ass” unquote.

    When will Trump file charges for, in essence, the same crime?

    What a pathetic hack you are.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  104. New post up re Corey Lewandowski.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  105. awesome thanks Dana

    happyfeet (831175)

  106. EVERYONE, “OLD READER” HAS BASICALLY ADMITTED HE’S CHRISTOPH. Once Patterico gets around to it, all of “Old Reader’s” comments will be deleted.

    And Ropelight has devolved to the point he almost can’t say anything without inserting lies. Trump is indeed an evil seducer, and Ropelight has been seduced to the dark side. I do not pity Ropelight. I contemptuously detest him.

    John Hitchcock (32fc54)

  107. Hitchcock,

    I am not Christoph nor any other commenter. You guys sound like loons.

    Old Reader (08f24c)

  108. Mr. Hitchcock is very special he has very strong believes Mr. Reader

    happyfeet (831175)

  109. Why are you still wasting time on this?

    Fields said she had been pulled to the ground.

    She needs to find a job more suited to her knack for falsehood. Sure she’d fit in here, but a reporter who can’t tell the truth, she’s less than worthless.

    Maybe a position with the State Deptment or the IRS.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  110. Mr MG wrote:

    Why should he change course, admit error, try to move on when he thinks his supporters will support him no matter what? There’s no corrective mechanism or force that makes him change.

    Because there are still a lot more people who don’t support him than support him. Donald Trump hasn’t gotten 50% of the votes from Republicans, and if he does win the nomination, he’ll not only have to get a lot more Republican votes, but some votes from independents and Democrats as well. Mitt Romney could tell Mr Trump just what you get for second place.

    The Dana who can do the math (1b79fa)

  111. “and, perhaps, after SS had warned her to back off).”

    They did no such thing. This is a total asspull.

    JD (a6bc68)

  112. I agree, LN Smithee. We could say Trump learned how to be a con man from the master, Al Sharpton.

    DRJ (15874d)

  113. Because there are still a lot more people who don’t support him than support him.

    But he says the polls all show him beating Hillary.

    And he’s got the nomination locked up unless the establishment steals it.

    You don’t need to convince me; you need to convince Mr. Trump and his supporters. They think otherwise.

    SteveMG (0f086c)

  114. I want to see Bill Gates open his change purse, buy up all Trump’s debts and call the notes.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  115. Fields never claimed she was pulled to th ground. The Trumpkins, as is their practice, simply make that up. I believe her statement was that she was pulled down, and he liars add to the ground and then wail about their fantasy construct.

    JD (a6bc68)


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