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5/27/2016

Trump: That Lyin’ Ted Sure Does Lie a Lot

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:03 pm



I’m told we need to unify the Republican party. I don’t care because I’m no longer a member. But those of you who think so might want to get the message to one Donald J. Trump.

“But when I watched her [Hillary Clinton’s] speech last night it was so sad, because everything she said was, like, a lie,” he said later. “I wonder if I could start, instead of saying ‘Crooked Hillary,’ which is a very accurate description, I wonder if I could say — you know, remember lyin’, lyin’ — I won’t say ‘Lyin Ted’ — I refuse to say it.”

“Lyin’ Ted,” Mr. Trump said. “Holds that Bible high, puts it down and then he lies. Lyin’ Ted. Well, I’m going to retire that from Ted — I’m not going to call Ted that anymore.

Isn’t that nice. He’s going to retire it, even as he repeats it three times.

Those who very much believed in Ted Cruz who are still Republicans are going to be pretty alienated by this kind of crap. They may decide to join those of us who have left the party. Heckuva job, dipstick.

P.S. Cruz is hardly the only Republican Trump has been criticizing lately. He’s hit Susana Martinez, Mitt Romney, and Jeb Bush, among others. But he’s still praising Vladimir Putin.

I respect Putin. He’s a strong leader, I can tell you that. Not like what we have.

See 1:37:15.

What’s the difference? Martinez, Romney, Bush, and Cruz have all criticized him. Putin praised him. It’s really that simple with this idiot. And yes. He is an idiot. Any guy running for President who never heard of the Gang of Eight bill is an uninformed idiot. Period. End of story.

235 Responses to “Trump: That Lyin’ Ted Sure Does Lie a Lot”

  1. I’m moderating a particular term which rhymes with bee bank. Tired of seeing it. Find something else to say.

    Patterico (5ff298)

  2. He’ll always be Lion Ted Cruz to this voter.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. make me

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. oh.

    happyfeet (831175)

  5. Those who call evil good and good evil…

    Donald Trump, a well-known liar of the first order, who has to lie about what Ted Cruz said and delete all manner of pertinent facts in order to call Cruz a liar… Attacks Republicans and Conservatives (not the same thing) but praises Communists in both Russia and China…

    #NeverTrump #NeverHillary

    John Hitchcock (6998b1)

  6. this has been on my list for a while

    big natasha fan

    happyfeet (831175)

  7. Okay a really big box of chocolate.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  8. sterling archer is unoriginal, but perhaps the world piece about how the clinton foundation has enabled boko haram is worth a gander,

    narciso (732bc0)

  9. Is there a new piece on that, narciso?

    Patterico (5ff298)

  10. it’s rather lengthy with charts, it’s a continuation of their practices in the 90s, before ubl decided to expand in that direction,

    http://www.worldmag.com/2016/05/troubling_ties/page1

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. Mr. Instapundit has families in nigeria

    or something like that

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. pipe down, pikachu this is serious,

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. Is Trump trying to lose the general election?
    It’s time for him to start thinking about bridging gaps, mending fences, building bridges, and kissing and making up.

    The only person Trump should be calling a liar during the next five months is crooked lying Hillary.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. I’m moderating a particular term which rhymes with bee bank. Tired of seeing it.

    I have a list.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. ROD DREHER: Re-Tribalizing America. “Donald Trump and Milo Yiannopoulos are provocateurs, no question. But they are proving something important about the militant left: that it is often racist against whites, and has no intention of allowing any opinions other than its own to be voiced in the public square. And whether in the streets or in a university lecture hall, it will use violence to impose its will. . . . Trump is a vulgar, crass, alpha-male brute. But he doesn’t care what SJWs and liberals say about him. He fights, and sometimes fights as dirty as they do. That’s not nothing. White liberal middle-class society and many bourgeois conservatives have demonized within themselves, collectively and individually, the instinct that would have given them the strength to fight civilization’s enemies on the Left and on the Right.”

    Punch back twice as hard, as another provocateur once said.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234801-2/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. ENDORSED: Why ‘Crooked Hillary’ is likely to stick.

    I saw CNN tonight, where Wolf Blitzer was forced to read Trump’s statement that he would debate the Democratic nominee, who would probably be “Crooked Hillary.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/234846-2/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. when beck and his pal, brad thor,( whose gotten passe, with his almost comic book plots, brad taylor is doing better) is musing about assasinating trump, well the truce will be slow in coming,

    narciso (732bc0)

  18. Donald Trump, a well-known liar of the first order

    I have to disagree with this, as a liar of the first order would be a MUCH BETTER LIAR. Bill Clinton is a liar of the first order. Satan is a liar of the first zeroth order.

    But Donald Trump is a patzer of a liar. He would lie about the color of the tie he is wearing, on camera if he thought there was something to gain. His lies are so transparent that a tape of yesterday’s utterances are routinely denied, played back, still denied, and then the exasperated interviewer is simply talked over.

    He is a blusterer, an obstructor and a filibusterer par excellance , but he’s a really crappy liar.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  19. Patterico, I’m sorry to repeat this, but it merits repetition: Trump could do any number of things that would make him more electable. Quit insulting Republicans is one thing. Start talking about policy is another. Cease lying for no good reason.

    So you have a choice. Either (a) he just doesn’t give a flip or (b) he is intentionally throwing the election.

    Or maybe both.

    Remember: Trump is choosing this approach.

    Simon Jester (0a2b49)

  20. oh please

    Mr. Trump just gave a glorious energy policy speech

    it was goddamn beautiful

    it was superlative

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. pikachu do you know who the gang of eight are?

    your dreamboat was fuzzy like his hair on that

    put down you pompoms and unstrap them kneepads

    have some self respect and better fashion sense

    trumpyfeet (0a2b49)

  22. Why Trump Won, and Why the Current Crop of Purported Leaders Must Be Swept Aside
    —Ace

    “Pocahantas.”

    “For a long time I’ve been busting on Marco Rubio people, and the class — Upper Middle Class College-Educated — so enthused about him.*

    I’ve said this before, but this class, in particular, is extremely bully-able. Their class itself is is the product of liberal social cues and mores. College being one of the main prerequisites of class entry (other prerequisites: That your parents are also college-educated), this class is particularly sensitive to threats to their social status by liberals.**

    Any class whose credentials are monitored by a progressive/archliberal dominant cadre is going to be easily whipsawed into conformity with that progressive/archliberal cadre.

    I’m sorry to say this, but most of the right’s “leadership” — media, think tank (academic), political — is drawn from the upper middle/parents were college educated class.

    It takes very little to pose a challenge to their class membership — a questioning of whether or not they’re firmly enough committed to liberal social values, to get them to back down and begin making apologies.

    When you look at people like Paul Ryan, the whole point of their “conservative agenda” seems to be to accomplish every single Action Item on the liberal checklist, but through, allegedly, more conservative means (such as “market-based mechanisms” — this is how Romney, obviously a High Avatar of this class, wound up passing the “conservative version of universal health care,” RomneyCare, which ultimately gave us ObamaCare).

    And this is why I keep saying, over and over, that Rubio People Are Silly. Marco Rubio never talked about any real conservative principle. He never attempted to upset any political applecarts or further any conservative ends.

    He was always the conservagtive candidate you could show off to your Liberal Friends — and your friends are your culture-makers and class-mores enforcers — to prove you were “one of the good ones” and “not like those other unsophisticated, racist conservatives.”

    And that was it. That was what he brought to the table.

    That was his selling point.

    Period.

    His big claim to political fame — where he actually exerted himself to accomplish something — was being the Salesman for the ultimate progressive agenda item, free and unopposed migration into America by whoever managed to get across the border.

    And his job was to sell that as a “deeply conservative” proposition.

    Obviously, Ted Cruz was not a good replacement for Rubio in this respect; Cruz was “one of the crazy ones,” and thus marked his supporters as “one of the bad conservatives,” one of the people who love Jesus and crazy sh*t like that.

    And for a lot of us, this sort of candidate-most-acceptable-to-the-establishment’s-liberal-pals model isn’t cutting it any longer.

    As I’ve grown older, I’ve found myself giving fewer and fewer f*cks about what my social cohort might think about this or that. I am willing to make fewer and fewer accommodations to get along. I am willing to do less and less just to fit in with the liberal crowed, and keep on the “good conservative” list.

    There are simply too many people in the commanding positions of conservative leadership who are very concerned about keeping on the Liberal Friend White List.

    Trump won because when a Native American activist (posing as a journalist) declared that “Pocahantas” was “very offensive” as used in regard to Elizabeth Warren — dishonestly, I might add, as everyone knows the term is used to deny she’s an Indian, not to denigrate her as an Indian, and everyone knows this, and only a liar pretends otherwise — Trump did not begin falling over himself to make apologies and keep the well-wishes of the increasingly unreasonable left-wing hegemony.

    He just began making fun of the stupid silly b*tch for being a stupid silly b*tch.

    People are f*cking tired of walking around on eggshells and being made to apologize for every f*cking goddamn thing in the world.

    And what we increasingly want is a political leadership that tells the Grievance Mongers and Offense Farmers to shut the f*ck up and get bent rather than explaining to them how a Conservative Version of Political Correctness Can Achieve All the Good Things That Liberal Political Correctness Can Achieve, But Using Market-Based Mechanisms.

    It’s time to stop f***ing about it.

    I’m tired of it, and I know millions of other people are tired of it too.

    So I don’t give a f*** anymore if some dishonest b*tch dishonestly feigns offense over the term “Pocahantas.”

    It’s time to start treating them as what they are — dishonest liars trying to control you.

    And it’s time to start treating them as straight up internal enemies.

    We tried it polite. We’ve been falling all ourselves for 30 years to try to convince the increasingly extremist left wing assh*les that we’re not all the foul things they call us.

    It’s impossible — their jobs, their income, and their government subsidies depend on us being treated as second-class citizens and beasts for taxation.

    It’s about time we woke and realized they cannot be convinced, because they never really believed their bullsh*t anyway, it was always for the purposes of exacting rents out of people and making them knuckle under.

    And I’m afraid our current leadership just can never get that — they find themselves too afraid to go against their class, they fear too much the idea of being outcasts from their castes.

    Trump is immune to such Mean Girl persuasions not because he’s an especially courageous or wise man, but because he’s a narcissist and a bully himself. Not because he’s a good man, but because he’s a fairly bad one.

    But it doesn’t matter how he came to be immune to their power — all that matters is that he is immune to it.

    And the people that want to continue to fall all over themselves to appease the unappeasable liberals are no longer needed in the positions of high responsibility in the movement.

    Our political leaders — whether in actual political positions or in communications and ideation — are here to defend us and keep the increasingly unreasonable and aggressive left off our fu**ing backs, not to curry favor with these nasty animals, and not to keep in their good graces.

    And if they seem more concerned with the latter than the former– they they have to go.

    One cannot act freely until one can think freely first.

    They should spend every waking moment fighting the hegemony of Social Justice Warrior thought, not trying to explain how conservatism can accomplish many of the same goals by alternate means.

    I imagine in a short period of time we will see a partial political realignment as most of this class I’m talking about — which is naturally liberal — self re-sorts itself into the liberal camp, where they really ought to have been all along.

    Long Story Short: In social struggles — not military ones, not political ones — a concession may be demanded or a privilege asserted, but it cannot actually come into being until/unless the target concedes it.

    We have been doing far too much concession in the social struggle. We have granted them too many indulgences, in the obviously-lunatic belief that if we just grant them this next indulgence, they’ll be appeased and won’t come back in two days demanding another one.

    It’s time to stop being reasonable. It’s time to start being every bit as unreasonable as they are…”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363766.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. people aren’t that particular about policy, mitt’s 59 point plan is a case in point,

    narciso (732bc0)

  24. Waaaah! I can’t smack my secretary’s a** anymore without her getting all uppity about “equality.” Waaaaah! I’m taking my vote and going to Trump! He’s a bully, and I need to whore myself out to a bully to protect myself from my secretary’s newly entitled a**.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!

    Leviticus (858765)

  25. I wish I could see the future when this election ends. Really curiou about the USA’s future. As someone says, you can’t be better when you take other people down

    gmail account login (d85d40)

  26. I didn’t want to vote for Trump but I was prepared to; to stop HiLiary.
    Now I will Write-in Ted Cruz and let the chips fall where they may.

    It was a good run….but it’s all over now.

    firefirefire (933c5b)

  27. Trump only sounds good to his acolytes and those that feel they have no choice. To everyone else he’s a stupid man saying stupid things, and saying them louder in more places about more people is NOT going to make him sound more reasonable.

    Now, maybe I just don’t realize how EFFING STOOOPID American has become. Maybe we have reached Kornbluth’s Marching Morin stage, and they’re making driverless cars for a damn good reason (they’ll go 25, report they’re going 70 and have “whoooshing” sounds coming out of hidden speakers).

    I just hope not.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  28. Arg. Too late and I can’t spell.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  29. Just when you think it cannot get worse, Trump manages to be more outrageous than I’d believed possible.

    The Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee gave a fiery speech in San Diego and sought to leverage the power of his pulpit to shame one of this city’s federal judges, Gonzalo Curiel, who is hearing a class-action lawsuit against Trump University.

    Trump delivered a lengthy monologue about the years-old case involving students who claim they were defrauded by Trump’s real estate “university.” He delved so deeply into details of the case — at one point, he talked about the origin of the name of the law firm representing him — that he seemed to lose the attention of his crowd.

    Trump leveled a series of blows against Curiel. He called him “a hater of Donald Trump” and “very hostile” person who had “railroaded” him. He then taunted the judge, who has scheduled a trial for late November, after the election.

    “I’ll be seeing you in November, either as president…” Trump said, trailing off. “I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s doing this.” Trump brought up Curiel’s ethnicity: “The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican…I think the Mexicans are going to end up loving Donald Trump.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  30. (Let me try that again with the link and formatting)

    Just when you think it cannot get worse, Trump manages to be more outrageous than I’d believed possible.

    The Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee gave a fiery speech in San Diego and sought to leverage the power of his pulpit to shame one of this city’s federal judges, Gonzalo Curiel, who is hearing a class-action lawsuit against Trump University.

    Trump delivered a lengthy monologue about the years-old case involving students who claim they were defrauded by Trump’s real estate “university.” He delved so deeply into details of the case — at one point, he talked about the origin of the name of the law firm representing him — that he seemed to lose the attention of his crowd.

    Trump leveled a series of blows against Curiel. He called him “a hater of Donald Trump” and “very hostile” person who had “railroaded” him. He then taunted the judge, who has scheduled a trial for late November, after the election.

    “I’ll be seeing you in November, either as president…” Trump said, trailing off. “I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s doing this.” Trump brought up Curiel’s ethnicity: “The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican…I think the Mexicans are going to end up loving Donald Trump.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/27/in-san-diego-trump-shames-local-mexican-judge-as-protesters-storm-streets/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-trump-945pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  31. Question: Can a federal judge in such a case find a party saying such things in content and jail them?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  32. *contempt. Gah. Bed.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  33. There’s a good book by Vox Day (who, unfortunately, is a big Trump supporter), called SJW Always Lie. One of the points in the book is that when SJWs attack, you need to attack back twice as hard and keep attacking. Beat them with their own methods. Trump does this, which is great.

    Vox also notes that not everyone attacking you is an SJW. You have to know the difference. If a family member or friend is attacking you, do you hit them back twice as hard on a constant basis and look to destroy them? No. You don’t. Trump has been, and will continue, hitting Republicans and Conservatives who do not support him, rather than wooing them. And enables his supporters to do the same.

    Yet, interestingly, the “Republican standard-bearer” is attempting to woo Democrats and Bernie supporters. That should tell you more about Donald’s true beliefs than anything else.

    If Republicans and Conservatives want to abandon their deeply held beliefs, well, don’t give those of us who won’t a load of grief.

    William Teach (bceeb2)

  34. @32, I should mention I enjoy your blog in particular your “If all You Can See” and “Sorta Blogless Sunday” pinups.

    I always thought you should team up with thepirateslair.com, where I turn to for all most of my boarding ax and all of my sea chest and Liberty ship hatch covering needs, etc., etc.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  35. * where I turn to for all most of my

    How it would have read, if there was a loving God in heaven or at least a computer that accepted my inputs.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  36. http://military.wikia.com/wiki/HMS_Rawalpindi

    …While patrolling north of the Faroe Islands on 23 November 1939, she investigated a possible enemy sighting, only to find that she had encountered two of the most powerful German warships, the battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau conducting a sweep between Iceland and the Faroes. Rawalpindi was able to signal the German ships’ location back to base. Despite being hopelessly outgunned, 60-year old Captain Edward Coverley Kennedy RN of Rawalpindi decided to fight, rather than surrender as demanded by the Germans. He was heard to say “We’ll fight them both, they’ll sink us, and that will be that. Good-bye”.

    The German warships sank Rawalpindi within 40 minutes…

    Despite not yet being 60 I am in a similar mood.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  37. Hastings reinforced what Stevenson suggested in cryptonomicon, even when you have the enemy’s code you can’t let the enemy know.

    narciso (732bc0)

  38. If the willing for hillary, are going to be as craven as Rockefeller and co, and not recognize the real enemy, then they don’t get a pass.

    narciso (732bc0)

  39. Many but not all, getson will Brooks douthat carped on the huntress who was trying to prevent what has come to pass in the last eight years, this is why I put a Mark against applebaum, mcdonald, and co.

    narciso (732bc0)

  40. Cafone 2016!

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  41. The two minute hate is condorting, but much beside the point.

    narciso (732bc0)

  42. Look Trump is opening fire in the Yard at the Penitentiary — yes some good people are going to get hit but most of them are pretty bad.

    Fact Cafone 2016! is shitting in the mouths of politicians and judges is a good thing. They deserve it for their mendacity and corruption — all of them, even by association.

    The days where we treat a Politician/Lawyers/Judges with respect while disrespecting Illegals should be over. Our system is corrupt b/c those in power who make the rules are corrupt. In a better functioning society, they’d be strung up on the post in full view lest folks not learn the lessons that corruption is evil. Corruption in Govt among the most evil.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  43. Wretchard’s musing are much more relevant.

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. I realize that Lucifer’s Alinskyite minions are indeed a great enemy,
    it’s just that enemies, including Lucifer’s non-Alinskyite brand, abound.

    There is only one father of lies, after all.
    One group may be more powerful and in need of opposition at the moment,
    but throwing our lot in with a different one is more than fraught with danger.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  45. Look Trump is opening fire in the Yard at the Penitentiary — yes some good people are going to get hit but most of them are pretty bad.

    Fact Cafone 2016! is defecating in the mouths of politicians and judges is a good thing. They deserve it for their mendacity and corruption — all of them, even by association.

    The days where we treat a Politician/Lawyers/Judges with respect while disrespecting Illegals should be over. Our system is corrupt b/c those in power who make the rules are corrupt. In a better functioning society, they’d be strung up on the post in full view lest folks not learn the lessons that corruption is evil. Corruption in Govt among the most evil.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  46. Tell me, of a puppet regime, declared 4500 veterans dead without review, how would we treat it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  47. How does one interpret Trump’s behavior other than being that of a petty tyrant whose instinct is to immediately pounce at a perceived threat,
    with perceived threats too easy to come by for a megalomaniacal narcissist.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  48. #41 Hatred and anger can serve GOOD as well as EVIL. Just like calm and “reason” can serve EVIL as well as GOOD.

    Trump’s anger, stupidity and illogical views seem to serve a mostly good cause in my view. Hillary’s not.

    Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e)

  49. I don’t dismiss that the case against him might be real, but then we’ve seen too much lawyers against adelson, texaco, transcanada, the levick crusade.

    narciso (732bc0)

  50. He’s too much like tr, one of his descendants admitted that, but we’ve through eight years of Henry Wallace deferred. John heyward points out the damage.

    narciso (732bc0)

  51. Yeah, well, whatever. We know who all the people are, who for sure are going to vote for Demented Donna in the general election. They voted for him in the primary. Then there will be the party drones, who’ll vote for anybody with an (R). Say 40 million total. Romney lost with 61 million. So let’s be sanguine. Every time Demented Donna spews bile, he is losing the votes of sane people.

    And please don’t try to scare me with Hillary! My mommy always checks under my bed to make sure that the big, bad boogielady is not there and I have my blankie to hide under too.

    nk (dbc370)

  52. Re the gang of 8, note to self they are always up to no good whether 4 or fourteen, of it’s spring surprise, what matters the packaging.

    narciso (732bc0)

  53. Well I didnt, neither did hoagie, mg etc but one needs to focus the.main guns on red queen.

    narciso (732bc0)

  54. I was ALWAYS a #NeverJeb, #NeverRubio, #NeverChristie.

    I was never a #NeverTrump.

    I gave Trump a chance, but I always leaned toward Cruz, Carson, Santorum and maybe Fiorina or Perry or Jindal, or Walker.

    But Trump has really made it hard to come over to his team. And every week, he seems to want to pound home another reason why I can’t support this buffoon. I believe he believes what he says RIGHT NOW, but he probably won’t believe it 10 minutes after he says it. But I don’t believe a thing he says.

    What’s a man with a moral compass, a conscience, a sense of logic and a vote to do in 2016?

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f)

  55. Fine, you know what red queen has done, and what the apparat will enable her to do.

    narciso (732bc0)

  56. Buone dottore @43, it’s not November yet. The father of lies appears to be scathed.

    If I weren’t patient I couldn’t set an ambush.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  57. If it irritates the army or marine types to hear a navy type to talk about ambushes, consider. It was what Yamamoto was trying to do off of Midway in June 1942. Except Nimitz turned the tables and did it to him. Nimitz, with his co-conspirators Spruance and Fletcher, ambushed the entire Japanese Navy.

    Which is worth a BBQ, wouldn’t you say?

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  58. Nah, after the SEALs, “ambush” and “Navy” do belong in the same sentence. Sneaking up behind people with knives, garottes, and silenced pistols; bushwacking them from half a mile away; sneaking in to plant bombs and then sneaking out to leave them detonate by timer or remote control which is what they do best. All the cowardly, back-shooting, bushwacking ways to murder other human beings … it’s the Navy’s most celebrated unit which is best at it.

    I’m yanking your chain.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. And it was all invented by Italians.

    nk (dbc370)

  60. I know you’re yanking my chain, nk. Takin’ the p*ss as the Diggers would have it. And I’m cool with it. If we weren’t number one nobody would complain about us.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  61. Every service worth their salt has one, sbs, the gru has a naval component, don’t known about gign, of course count borghese was a pioneer of sorts.

    narciso (732bc0)

  62. Commandoes marine, I think they are called.

    narciso (732bc0)

  63. 58. And it was all invented by Italians.

    nk (dbc370) — 5/28/2016 @ 7:36 am

    The greatest example of our mastery is our convincing ability to shift the blame to those other greasy Mediterranean olive pickers.

    Come on, Joooooz. At your weak moments. You have to at least credit the international financial Dago conspiracy for this success. I mean Mafia. We’re the sh*t.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  64. We talked about the WWII Italiam frogmen before. One of them was even decorated by the British Navy after he switched sides. Don’t go playing the Mafia card.

    Although it is true that one of Mussolini’s strategies against the Mafia was to draft them into the army. Hmm.

    nk (dbc370)

  65. 61. Commandoes marine, I think they are called.

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/28/2016 @ 7:50 am

    Yo no soy marinaro. So Capitan, so capitan.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  66. Auto correct is culturally biased.

    narciso (732bc0)

  67. 63. We talked about the WWII Italiam frogmen before. One of them was even decorated by the British Navy after he switched sides. Don’t go playing the Mafia card.

    Although it is true that one of Mussolini’s strategies against the Mafia was to draft them into the army. Hmm.

    nk (dbc370) — 5/28/2016 @ 7:58 am

    De La Penne. The skipper of the Brit battleship he sank in Alexandria wanted to award him for his gallantry right then and there.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  68. Yo! No sauce marinara!
    Sauce Amatrican’, sauce Amatrican’!

    nk (dbc370)

  69. I was watching battle of the bulge and wondering why they invented a character like hessler, instead of using skorzeny.

    narciso (732bc0)

  70. DRJ,

    Not just no cattle, no hat either

    He’s very willing to put others money where his alligator mouth is. It’s just a shame about his tweetybird *ss.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  71. Ah rick yo’ve signed into nexus 6, Tyrell has a limited warranty.

    narciso (732bc0)

  72. And you’ve signed on with a gibbering orangeutan.

    What’s your point?

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  73. Of course, the Italian navy and special group were basically rehearsing pearl harbor, as popv tried to tell them.

    narciso (732bc0)

  74. I take a limited amount of guilty pleasure when Italy and its armed forces does well. Like it doesn’t cut and run like Spain. Or La Decima Flottiglia MAS or Il Paracadutisti Folgore. And when Fabrizio Quattrocchi defiantly tells the terrorists, “This is how an Italian dies.”

    I am truly proud of being italian when I drive by Basilone road and bow my head and give a silent “fooockin eh” to my paisan Manilla John.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  75. Is this the 1965 Battle of the Bulge? Skorzeny was still alive then, and working for the Mossad, some claim, as an assassin. Maybe he could have caused them legal problems or maybe “paid them a visit”?

    nk (dbc370)

  76. WarEagle82-
    Keep praying.

    If Nebuchadnezzar could repent…
    Trump is quite the surrogate,
    “Look at this great empire I have made by my own brilliance and skill…”

    Oooops…

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  77. Yes that one, apparently he was doing the former but not the latter, having informed on the rocket clique at helwan.

    narciso (732bc0)

  78. 72. Of course, the Italian navy and special group were basically rehearsing pearl harbor, as popv tried to tell them.

    narciso (732bc0) — 5/28/2016 @ 8:30 am

    They couldn’t have been, since everything they developed preceded Pearl Harbor.

    They were scared sh*tless of facing the Royal Navy in a conventional battle is what it was.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  79. Too bad NATO can’t take up the cheer,
    “Remember Fabrizio!”

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  80. nk,
    But that’s the problem,
    the big bad boogielady isn’t under your bed,
    she’s loose out on the street….
    in DC, of all places.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  81. They were doing trial runs around tAranto, if memory serves.

    narciso (732bc0)

  82. Brought to you by the leading bottom of teh birdcage product, the preening, posturing Preezie 4-Putt admonishes teh world:

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-obama-hiroshima-20160527-snap-story.html

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. Just think… This is the last Memorial Day weekend we’ll be forced to weather the verbal flatulence of this incompetent, malevolent, nincompoop of a castrato.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. Yeah, the Mau Mau is the quintessential brat who trashes the house. And why we got to deal with Trump.

    Where is that Patterico and his “only three”? Who made the border, Mexicans, and Muslims a crisis?

    nk (dbc370)

  85. The journal is nearly as fatuous in it’s account, it’s written by a former?? Politico Carol Lee.

    narciso (732bc0)

  86. Nebuchanezzar was demanding that people worship him as a god, who does that sound like?

    narciso (732bc0)

  87. I know you don’t really think he’s that vain, do you. But red queen is.

    narciso (732bc0)

  88. Now that he has the nomination “locked up”, suppose he melts down before the convention. His tirade yesterday slurring and perhaps threatening the federal judge conducting the Trump University fraud trial came close.

    “I’ll be seeing you in November, either as president…” Trump said, trailing off. “I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s doing this.” Trump brought up Curiel’s ethnicity: “The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican…

    What options do they have? Are they robots?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  89. Kevin M – so the Democratic candidate gets indicted and the Republican candidate melts down horribly; what happens?

    What are the odds this one goes to the House?

    aphrael (3f0569)

  90. Rick Ballard, at 69: i’m not sure why, but “all hat, no cattle” is one of my favorite idioms.

    aphrael (3f0569)

  91. #82 Colonel Haiku,

    This weekend, our morally equivalizing President will undoubtedly equate Memorial Day to Veterans Day. He usually makes no distinction between the two holidays. If he goes to Arlington on Monday, he’ll be sure to tell people to “thank a veteran!” even though the holiday is explicitly about the “veterans” who are no longer here to thank.
    Several years ago, he praised the men who’ve made the ultimate sacrifice — many of whom are here with us today!
    How pathetic.
    It was like Joe Biden famously asking the wheelchair-bound veteran to “stand up so everyone can see you!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  92. True that, CS.

    And on another front…

    “One year ago, everybody knew that Donald Trump couldn’t win.

    Six months ago, everybody knew deporting illegal aliens/building wall was political suicide. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that only bigots/racists supported him. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  93. I’m moderating a particular term which rhymes with bee bank. Tired of seeing it. Find something else to say.

    Patterico (5ff298) — 5/27/2016 @ 7:06 pm

    Thank you.

    Thanks a good article by Ace.

    On the one hand it is great to see someone stand up to the media. On most things there is no reason to give in or kneel before them. On the other hand, it sucks its a man like Trump who isn’t doing it to protect principles but for himself. He only loves the attention.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  94. Well zaphod’s easily confused, about such things

    narciso (b863a7)

  95. and, Colonel, a few days ago we all knew that a presidential candidate threatening a federal judge with retaliation once he becomes president, and attacking his ethnicity, in order to influence his handling of a civil suit — well that would be beyond the pale.

    Suppose that Bill Clinton had threatened the Paula Jones judge with retribution and called her a “Republi*unt.” If he had done so while the impeachment trial was proceeding, it might have turned the trick. So to speak.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  96. totally OT, but real world useful here in Lost Angels:

    Hey Pat!

    how about a post with suggestions/endorsements for the local judge seats here in Lost Angels?

    redc1c4 (2d2acc)

  97. Putting your trust in California jurists, paging judge walker,,,

    narciso (b863a7)

  98. Putting your trust in California jurists

    Judicial elections are mostly all random noise, and a little bit of intelligence can go a long way. Sure, it’s Whack-a-Mole, but better we whack them than they do.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  99. Seen on the web:

    “At least Hillary’s lies are premeditated.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  100. #94 Kevin M,

    I never got the impression that Colonel Haiku is approving Trump’s behavior in regards to the Judge — did you?

    Mr Haiku sees that Trump is likely going to be the last man standing to stop a President Hillary from taking fruition. But that doesn’t mean he approves of Trump, anymore than a person who pays nine bucks for watered down stadium beer at the ballgame is thrilled to do so. The reason we pay nine bucks for watered down stadium beer is because it’s the only remaining option for beer at the ballgame.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  101. The usual procedure, when a cafone offends a wiseguy, is for the wiseguy to step out of the picture. Like nothing happened and everything is jake. Others, however, get the picture. Something happens to the cafone but there’s nothing to connect the wiseguy. So let’s see if Curiel recuses himself, and the new judge not only sticks it to Tiny Donnie but breaks it off too.

    (Not that Curiel has to. Or should. Otherwise every lowlife would just insult a judge he didn’t like any time he wanted a different judge.)

    nk (dbc370)

  102. “Black Iowa Student Starts Fight, Loses, Makes Up Hate Crime, Gets Caught

    Daily Caller – Department of Justice officials diverted millions of dollars slated for victims of the 2008 housing meltdown to politically favored third parties, including “left-wing radical groups.”

    PoliZette – Black students at Dartmouth College tore down a display by the Dartmouth College Republicans honoring police officers and firefighters who have died in the line of duty.

    No action by Dartmouth. Imagine if the College Republicans took down a Black Lives Matter display. They’d burn the place to the ground and the college staff would serve them beer and pretzels while they did it.

    Huffington Post – Senate Confirms First Openly Gay Army Secretary

    Breitbart – One of every five refugees resettled in Minnesota by the federal government tested positive for latent tuberculosis in 2014

    Surviving in Venezuela

    Daily Mail – [photos] No electricity, no antibiotics, no beds, no soap: A devastating look inside Venezuela’s crisis-hit hospitals where 7 babies die a day, bleeding patients lie strewn on the floor, and doctors try to operate without tools

    Global Post – ‘We want food!’: Venezuela crisis deepens

    Telegraph – Venezuela: how the socialist paradise turned into debt and hyperinflation hell

    Yahoo – Venezuela, where a hamburger is officially $170

    Guardian – ‘We are like a bomb’: food riots show Venezuela crisis has gone beyond politics

    Zero Hedge – The Clintons Earned $6.7 Million From Speeches In 2015; $55 Million Since 2013

    Washington Post – A federal judge ordered D.C. police to stop requiring individuals to show “good reason” to obtain a permit to carry a firearm on the streets of the nation’s capital.

    Patriot Rising – Missouri Lawmakers Pass “Stand Your Ground,” No-permit Concealed Carry

    Shooter’s Log – Clinton Promises to Attack Gun Owners on Her “Very First Day” in Office”

    – from the Woodpile

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  103. None of those things, or all those things together, is a reason to put a turd like Trump in charge of the government, Haiku.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. Cue the python whiskey sketch.

    narciso (b863a7)

  105. “What are the odds this one goes to the House?”

    Very close to zero. The infamous 47% subsidy receiving floor has moved closer to 49% while the odds of Clinton being indicted by the Obama DoJ are lower than those of the election going to the House. Clinton is certainly the most repulsive Democrat to ever take the nomination but those Treasury checks remain as lovely as ever.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  106. I would still love to see a 4-way fight:

    GOP: Trump
    ???: Romney
    Dems: Clinton
    Greens: Bernie

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  107. But we’ll probably just get the two a**holes. “It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  108. Sorry, nk, more of the same or at least a chance of some change for the better, I know which way I lean.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  109. Well that settles it then e open nista, or thebsckdrop to the original buck Rogers 2419.

    narciso (b863a7)

  110. You’re missing the extremely obvious third option, Colonel

    Leviticus (d0cf76)

  111. He said it about Ted THREE times, even bringing up the Bible. I don’t know, probably reading too much into it but it is ironic. Trump is satanic. Evil vs the Christian and evil ‘won.’

    Trump is another manifestation of the war on Christianity. His effect on people who you would think would never accept what he is doing seems supernatural.

    Dee (f26b4f)

  112. I left the GOP two years ago because of the direction the party was going. Since a Hillary or Donald will be bad for America as president in their own unique ways, IMO, there is no way I’ll vote either one. What’s left, therefore, is (1) not vote, (2) vote, but leave the “for president” part blank, or (3) vote for a 3rd party candidate in protest. I pick Door #3. The best 3rd party alternative is Johnson-Weld, or maybe Johnson-Petersen.

    WarrenPeese (1df851)

  113. Not so, Leviticus. Sitting on your hands is de facto letting your investment ride. Not good enough, in my estimation. But YMMV…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  114. If another serious option comes upon the scene,
    I think it will be quite unexpected until about 1 day before it happens.
    A confluence of factors beyond human planning will be needed.
    I do not know if it will happen.
    Sometimes Romans 1 takes its course.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  115. – more of the same
    – at least a chance of some change for the better
    – extremely obvious third option: at least a chance of some change for the worse

    Leviticus (d0cf76)

  116. I gave Trump a chance, but I always leaned toward Cruz, Carson, Santorum and maybe Fiorina or Perry or Jindal, or Walker.

    But Trump has really made it hard to come over to his team. And every week, he seems to want to pound home another reason why I can’t support this buffoon. I believe he believes what he says RIGHT NOW, but he probably won’t believe it 10 minutes after he says it. But I don’t believe a thing he says.

    What’s a man with a moral compass, a conscience, a sense of logic and a vote to do in 2016?

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f) — 5/28/2016 @ 6:55 am

    Thanks for getting it.

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  117. Mr. Trump’s a way better pick than the colostomy bag. I hope he wins and she loses.

    It would be nice if i could have this one thing.

    happyfeet (831175)

  118. Isn’t that nice. He’s going to retire it, even as he repeats it three times. – Pat

    Imagine politically correct speech enforcement in the birthing canal.

    And then slap it on the but,

    I’m moderating a particular term which rhymes with bee bank. Tired of seeing it. Find something else to say.

    Principles!

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  119. How my God! What a horrible, good for nothing, terrible human being that Trump creature is!
    [wringing hands]

    G6loq (3a2647)

  120. It’s very Hillary in here today. Someone turn up the thermostat.

    Somedays, reading through a thread, I feel like John Coffee walking the green mile.

    If you help elect Hillary Clinton in even the smallest way, you will have farked us all, and generations to come.

    Imagine 200 years from now, your ancestors the American diaspora living on a U.N. approved reservation, being taught in their histories the name Hillary Clinton.

    She needs to be forgotten. She needs to be expunged.
    Donald Trump is the eraser.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  121. she’s worse than putrefaction

    happyfeet (831175)

  122. In high school, I had to take a math class.
    I had to choose between teacher X, whom everyone said was a jerk, or teacher Y, whom everyone characterized as a witch. I wish I could have said, “I don’t want either one!” but whether a student likes the teacher or not, the district still has governing authority over you.

    So since I was going to have to be enrolled in a math class, I figured that teacher X was a little less jerky than teacher Y was a witch — so I took teacher X.

    By enrolling in teacher X’s class, it never meant that I thought that teacher X was the equivalent of Mr Keating in ‘Dead Poets Society.’

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  123. If she were a good person, if she were a dedicated servant advancing the public good, I’d still be against Clinton because we are America. We don’t bequeath political office or dynasties.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  124. – more of the same
    – at least a chance of some change for the better
    – extremely obvious third option: at least a chance of some change for the worse

    Leviticus (d0cf76) — 5/28/2016 @ 12:24 pm
    ============================================

    Much more chance of your door #3 option under Hillary Clinton, Monte Hall.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  125. the colostomy bag wants to ban fracking

    happyfeet (831175)

  126. #125 Mr happyfeet,

    If only Hillary were as opposed to Bill’s drilling as she is to the drilling done by oil companies.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  127. But fortunately she’s a horrible shrew, a criminal whose supporters brag of her calculated deception.

    So I don’t have to stand on principle alone.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  128. bill clinton has STDs in his penis

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. “What are the odds this one goes to the House?”

    Aphrael – 0.00%. The Dems will dutifully line up behind Hillary no matter what.

    JD (7fd277)

  130. Cruz Supporter – your analogy would be apt were Hillary and Donald the only choices. However, there are many other choices, i.e. voting for neither, voting Libertarian, etc. Insisting this is a binary choice is BS.

    JD (7fd277)

  131. This li’l lady has plans for all of yuzzz… https://youtu.be/Xq-I0JRhvt4

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  132. A guy who lies about how many millions he has given to charity,

    versus a girl whose entire charity is a lie used to fill her vault.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  133. she’s just foul

    happyfeet (831175)

  134. “versus a girl whose entire charity is a lie used to fill her vault”

    I ‘spect she hasn’t had a deposit in her vault for quite a spell…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  135. #130 JD,

    It’s possible that a Libertarian candidate (Johnson or Petersen) will emerge and become competitive in the race. Time will tell. But as of now, it looks like it’ll come down to either Trump or Hillary as our next President. It’s a two-party system, and that’s usually how it works out. Perot got 19/20% in ’92, yet a whopping zero electoral votes.
    Given a choice between Hillary and Trump, I’ll take my chances with Trump.

    “Not voting” is not something I would choose. One of these people is going to have governing authority over me regardless of what I think of them. And I’d like to choose whom I believe to be the lesser of two very bad choices.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  136. pikachu, the great wonderful historical thing about mr. Sir donald is that he never has to mean anything he says at all

    evereverever

    he flip flops like little nemo outside xir aquarium

    the best part is how he is proud of his kneely kneely supporters for not holding him to any standards

    you are like those people walking an empty leash and calling it baxter the dog

    except braggy braggy lying spraytan hair plugs has the leash on you

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  137. he’s a good choice I think

    colostomy bag’s only even an option cause her herpes-infected husband used to be president

    she’s disgusting

    advantage: Mr. The Donald

    happyfeet (831175)

  138. 134. …I ‘spect she hasn’t had a deposit in her vault for quite a spell…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 5/28/2016 @ 2:16 pm

    There’s a visual I could have gone the entire rest of my life without.

    And when someone delivered that last “deposit” to her “vault” no doubt it involved illegal immigration.

    Because there are some jobs Americans just won’t do.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  139. In high school, I had to take a math class.
    I had to choose between teacher X, whom everyone said was a jerk, or teacher Y, whom everyone characterized as a witch. I wish I could have said, “I don’t want either one!” but whether a student likes the teacher or not, the district still has governing authority over you.

    That’s a poor analogy, CS. I didn’t get to vote for my teachers once I decided on a class. I do get to choose a President. An art or history teacher has little to no bearing on my future life. The cabinet choices or the judges a President nominates do. The school district has authority over me until I’m 18, or I graduate. The government, in all it’s various flavors has authority over many aspects of my life for the remainder of my life.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  140. “Not voting” is not something I would choose. One of these people is going to have governing authority over me regardless of what I think of them. And I’d like to choose whom I believe to be the lesser of two very bad choices.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/28/2016 @ 2:17 pm

    That I get. It’s the exact reason why I have no animosity whatsoever for people who have decided to throw their lot in with Trump. You’ve been loud for Cruz ever since this all started, so I know it isn’t a matter of you’ve “seen the light”. Same thing for those who went originally with Walker, Fiorina, Carson, Jeb, Christie, et al. Hell, I can even understand the guys who’ve been with Trump from the beginning.

    Considering the persona Trump puts up, and the majority of the people who back him, not even mentioning all the other problems I just can’t support him. He really is no better than Sir Hillary.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  141. @ Kevin M (#31), who asked, apropos Trump’s out-of-court insulting of the federal judge before whom the Trump U lawsuits is pending:

    Can a federal judge in such a case find a party saying such things in content and jail them?

    Short answer: almost certainly not.

    In general, out of court statements and conduct are going to be given much more latitude than in-court statements or conduct. The contempt power isn’t intended to protect judges from being personally insulted in general; rather, the contempt power is part of a judge’s broader power to maintain order and dignity in his or her courtroom and court proceedings — for the benefit of the Rule of Law, the entire justice system, and the litigants before it, not the individual judges in it. That’s why it’s “Contempt of Court,” not “Contempt of Judge.”

    Outside the courthouse, though, the First Amendment is going to immunize a whole lot of deliberately, even maliciously, insulting language and conduct directed toward particular judges or judges in general.

    Lawyers have some additional obligations, sourced in the canons of ethics, which may impose limits on their speech about judges and the system: We’re generally not supposed to bring the system into disrepute. The penalty wouldn’t likely be jail or contempt, but rather revocation of the license to practice before that particular court (as has happened to the DoJ lawyers whom Judge Hanen found to have lied to him about the Obama Administration’s compliance, or non-compliance, with his orders in the big immigration case).

    But again, outside the courthouse, even those ethical restraints are interpreted and enforced so very weakly as to permit lawyers to take to the 6:00 o’clock news with some pretty scurrilous p*ssing and moaning about how awful Judge Blanketyblank is. And of course, Trump’s not a lawyer.

    If there were a gag order of some sort in place in a particular case, violating that could get someone in trouble for comments like Trump’s, but I’m not aware of any such in the Trump U case, and they are exceedingly rare, almost unknown, in civil cases.

    So I think he’s in no meaningful formal legal jeopardy from his comments.

    A couple of times in my career, I’ve had clients who were particularly frustrated with the judge before whom our case was pending, who suggested to me that if they were to make some big public attack on the judge, that would prove he was biased, and he’d have to recuse himself. I’ve had to explain, patiently, that no, insulting the judge doesn’t prove he’s biased, it proves you’re stupid, and if he takes offense, that offense is absolutely no legal or ethical ground to disqualify him or force him to recuse himself. The system in fact wants and expects judges to pay attention to litigants’ credibility and character, which are always relevant factors, for multiple purposes, in every legal dispute. If a party acts as foolishly as Trump is acting, it’s entirely appropriate for judges to consider that in making, for example, discretionary rulings on motions for continuances or the like.

    This is not Trump shooting himself in the foot for purposes of that lawsuit. It’s Trump shooting his left leg off with a 155-mm howitzer — world-class stupid.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  142. progeny – ancestors ; after – before.

    technical difficulties with the arrow of time. We’re working on it. Appreciate your patience.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  143. lol pikachu

    someday your prince will come

    but your weirdo spraytan hairpluggy crush only lurves botox liposucked eurotrash hookers

    until you read “codependent no more on lying thugs what have no principles” you will feel tiny and used

    just ask yourself what the axe bodyspray soaked empty suit what spend daddys money could do to make you leave his pervy pervy embrace

    nothing and no one I think is your angry answer

    its tough to give your heart to hucksters what dont respect you

    maybe you need a new outfit

    trumpyfeet (6ba919)

  144. i got a new fan today cause of i have a house guest and it’s kinda warm

    supercute huh

    love the color

    stupid holiday is messing up the delivery so it says not til thursday and who knows what the weather will be by then

    also i got some new candles

    happyfeet (831175)

  145. Did Judge Curiel Fire First?

    Most con men would be hesitant to attack the Federal judge sitting on one of their multiple fraud cases.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  146. failmerican judges are so effing sleazy

    they’re all so third whirl anymore

    happyfeet (831175)

  147. Yeah, ain’t he a peach?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  148. Way too much dogsh*t in human form walking the streets of LA County! http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/05/27/vandals-deface-vietnam-war-memorial-in-venice/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  149. The Los Angeles Police Department said it is not investigating the case.

    happyfeet (831175)

  150. Fwiw,
    Trump is totally unreliable in what he says and does.
    He appears to go out of his way to say and do stupid stuff.
    The main reason to vote for him is the hope his lies and stupid stuff will be less damaging than HRC’s, especially wrt the SCOTUS.

    The thing about lying unpredictable megalomaniacs that are great at making a sales pitch that works for them and leaves one with pennies on the dollar
    is
    that’s who they are

    One choice is a psychopath that will do “x”,
    The other is a psychopath that will do who knows what,
    that we hope will do things not as bad as “x”

    Some choice,
    Which is why I am still hoping and praying for merciful intervention,
    instead of what we deserve.
    Not all of you deserve,
    but as a whole.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  151. The true value of the Trump brand

    What it costs to get rid of it in a distress sale.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  152. Il dottore, count me among the non believers. Judgement needs to be weighed down on me, and it will be just.

    But as I said I look forward to the apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  153. Patterico, I’m sorry to repeat this, but it merits repetition: Trump could do any number of things that would make him more electable. Quit insulting Republicans is one thing. Start talking about policy is another. Cease lying for no good reason.

    So you have a choice. Either (a) he just doesn’t give a flip or (b) he is intentionally throwing the election.

    Or maybe both.

    Remember: Trump is choosing this approach.
    Simon Jester (0a2b49) — 5/27/2016 @ 9:28 pm

    Well worth repeating

    Tor (654698)

  154. curiel seems to have been a narcotics prosecutor, before obama nominated him, but he’s doing the bidding of bezos, like the tribune leaned on the local magistrate, to unseal ryan and hull’s divorce papers, we know how the game is played.

    narciso (732bc0)

  155. so the lessons of ayers, and bell and de unger have a mind clouding effect, that must cleared with lightning,

    https://www.facebook.com/prageru

    narciso (732bc0)

  156. I must apologize to me newfound Tejanos. I really did try. I must have spent $500 bucks on riding lessons. I just could not learn to like the horse. At least, no the classic horse, the one between my legs. Too tall. Or as Trump would later put i

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  157. I posted the last to comment on how f*cked up my computer has become.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  158. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGzxrP2s9ew

    In which I disgrace myself and everything Texas stands for.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGzxrP2s9ew

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  159. fat white Trump returns
    throwing darts in Clinton eyes
    making sure white stains

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  160. I’m glad to see that Pat is finally starting to join me in growing weary of feetstank. I hope he considers the Annie Wilkes solution if his scato-urological obsession continues unabated.

    Oh, you don’t know what I mean by “the Annie Wilkes solution”? You must not have seen Misery.

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  161. the part with the mallet, king’s other reverie on writing ended up in the overlook hotel,

    narciso (732bc0)

  162. @ Rick Ballard (#145): Thanks for the link to the WaPo story, but I’m puzzled by the text you used for the link, “Did Judge Curiel Fire First?” (Nice Hans Solo allusion, by the way, most judges would be flattered by that I think, rather than offended.)

    Judge Curiel was absolutely right — and following overwhelmingly clear precedent common throughout the state and federal judicial systems nationwide — in undoing a protective order that had allowed Trump’s lawyers to conceal from public scrutiny the evidence that’s already been gathered in pretrial discovery proceedings. Courts have an affirmative duty to prevent overuse and overdesignation of such protective or confidentiality orders, lest litigants use them as a tool for covering up misconduct that directly affects the public interest. In 1990, responding to systematic abuse and overuse of these orders in sealing court files in order to cover up gross wrongdoing, for example, the Texas Supreme Court drafted Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 76a, which requires Texas litigants to satisfy an elaborate series of notice requirements and rigorous showings before Texas trial judges may seal court files (which include materials generated in pretrial discovery).

    So if Judge Curiel “fired first,” he was just doing his job: He’s exactly right that, as the news organizations were arguing, the changed circumstances in legitimate public interest in, and scrutiny of, Donald Trump does indeed affect the balancing of interests necessary to sustain such confidentiality orders.

    Here’s the point the WaPo writers missed, though:

    This same change in the balance of interests — between privacy and public welfare/interest — can affect the validity of every confidentiality and sealing order previously entered by agreement, without opposition, in all the lawsuits in which Trump’s bought his victims’ silence. Expect the press to systematically find, and challenge, every such confidentiality order that Trump and his companies have used to bury their skeletons going back into the 1970s.

    Suckers = Trumpkins

    Beldar (fa637a)

  163. *Han. Forgive me, Star Wars fans.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  164. How my God! What a horrible, good for nothing, terrible human being that Trump creature is!
    [wringing hands]
    G6loq (3a2647) — 5/28/2016 @ 12:53 pm

    Just swish away, Renee.

    nepalese kukri (dbc370)

  165. of course, han shot first, gredo was going to take him out, for the bounty jabba had put on his head,

    narciso (732bc0)

  166. I do not vote for people because they have an R after their name,
    but I do not vote for those with a D after their name.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  167. interesting the wiki did not bring this up,

    http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/taxonomy/term/20681

    narciso (732bc0)

  168. So nice I linked to it twice.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  169. subtle aren’t they,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/world/europe/rise-of-donald-trump-tracks-growing-debate-over-global-fascism.html

    the closer parallels are farage, who has the old tory faithful, and berlusconi who revived the christian democrats with the last liberals.

    narciso (732bc0)

  170. Beldar,

    I was just a bit curious as to whether Trump’s gibbering was reflexive, anticipatory or retaliatory. The flying feces re Cruz were obviously retaliatory as well as extortionate while those flung with great abandon at Judge Curiel could have been anticipatory or reflexive. I agree with you that this ruling may serve as a precedent rationale for allowing those with stronger stomachs than mine to shovel through the mountainous heaps of Trump sewage heretofore sealed from public view.

    We can be sure the WaPo will continue to poke the orangeutan and even more sure the orangetan will fling feces in return. He’s rather predictable in that respect, if in no other.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  171. I would imagine that these civil cases against Trump are pretty strong, as otherwise they’d have settled. I have no doubt Trump has tried to do so, but the other side know that have his balls in the fire so they can hold out.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  172. Rick–

    What about Trump over the last year suggests a reflective or anticipatory individual. He lives in the present, never considers the future and denies the past.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  173. I would never, ever accuse Trump of reflecting upon anything other than his image in a mirror. Reflexive feces flinging, OTOH, is deeply ingrained in what passes for his psyche and on display almost continuously.

    Rick Ballard (161c5b)

  174. Makes Obama PeeWee Herman look noble and dignified. But he’s not Hillary, right?

    nk (dbc370)

  175. after ted kennedy bashed his head in the 94 race, much like that other rocket surgeon weld who was beaten by lurch, what second guessing did that occasion,

    narciso (732bc0)

  176. mountainous heaps of sewage sealed from view…

    And another thing. Trump picks up after himself. Doesn’t leave his mess for people to step around over or in.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  177. Trump picks up after himself???
    I thought multiple bankruptcies was more consistent with leaving messes for others to deal with.

    MD in Philly (6d89d7)

  178. In addition to the class action cases, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a $40 million lawsuit in 2013 alleging that Trump had defrauded more than 5,000 individuals through Trump University, which was never licensed as an educational institution.

    Then only after filing, demanded a roll call of students from Trump, so he could fish for defendants.

    Whasup Schneider? Couldn’t find any on your own?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  179. I guess Schneiderman’s advert in the NYT slumming for defendants didn’t pan out

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  180. papertiger, your willingness to be in the tank and suck Trump scwhang is breatIhtaking. Do you want men to take you apart? It will be simple and easy to do, but Trump and his Trumpites didn’t ever think you’d go beyond a website. Do you want me to destroy you and your god?

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  181. plantiff – defendant

    Schneidermann couldn’t find any students to complain the way his party boss wanted, so he’s demanding Trump provide him with a cheat sheet of names, so he could go door to door to find students to join his frivolous lawsuit.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  182. In public. In Front of the actual God, and everybody.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  183. Defendants? A single plaintiff, especially an attorney general, is enough to bring a class action, papertrumpkin, but you have to give notice all the people in the class who might have been hurt by the defendant so they can choose to opt out of any settlement and bring their own lawsuit. Who’s got the list in his short fingers?

    nk (dbc370)

  184. justice deferred is justice denied,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/eric-schneiderman-new-york-mortgage-fraud-task-force_n_1437470.html

    he did eventually get around to it, but I guess they wanted the contributions to clear,

    narciso (732bc0)

  185. ropelight is writing for The Independent? Way to go, ropelight! Congratulations!

    nk (dbc370)

  186. You’re projecting, Steve.

    Do your dirty, Gulliver, if you’re able.
    You giant killer, you.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  187. take a for instance, when was there a class action suit against the chicago annenberg initiative, which looted the city,

    narciso (732bc0)

  188. ?

    nk (dbc370)

  189. meanwhile, back at the ranch,

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/militants-attack-major-nembe-pipeline-nigerias-delta-officials-101429522–finance.html?ref=gs

    don’t know if this is just a new encarnation of bend or some local islamists,

    narciso (732bc0)

  190. Schneidermann and his ilk are living proof that in America, you don’t have to be guilty, just effective. Politicized aholes will manufacture the suit to fit.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  191. it’s that I trust trump, but I trust his accusers less, now it would have helped that he research the record of the judge a little more,

    narciso (732bc0)

  192. Trump and his ilk are living proof if you’re rich enough not only will you get away with it you’ll come away with a crowd of crotch sniffers.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  193. the republican party is unified! 88% of republicans now support soon to be president trump. it turns out the neo-con artists ayn randist free trader movement conservatives and rich donor class are only 15 % of the party. don’t let the door hit you on the way out! republican party is now trump populist party! good riddance mitt romney and bush vermin.

    the door (920839)

  194. Re class certification and its significance:

    Almost all class actions settle before there is ever a ruling on class certification. The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and most of their state-court analogs are skewed to encourage, almost require, exactly that. Not many cases filed as a class actions actually gets far enough through the pretrial proceedings to reach the class certification stage anyway.

    By the time they’re on the brink of a ruling on certification, though, both sides — the defendants and the lawyers for the named plaintiffs (and putative class) — are facing a spectacularly risky and significant ruling, since the reasonable settlement value of any claim skyrockets after certification. An upcoming class certification hearing can be as effective as a close-approaching jury trial setting in motivating parties to exhaust fully their settlement negotiations.

    Moreover, if the class actually gets certified, then at that point the trial judge takes on special responsibilities to micro-manage and oversee the case, for the benefit of the entire class of unnamed plaintiffs whose legal fates are about to be determined in their absence. As a practical matter, both sides’ counsel end up forfeiting a lot of flexibility once the trial judge is more actively involved. This, too, is a powerful settlement lubricant.

    The fact that the Trump U case is already past the class-certification stage means, strategically and procedurally, that the plaintiffs’ counsel effectively have a boot on the Trump defendants’ necks. They’re long past the point where cheap settlement would be possible. And the trial judge would have to approve any settlement, hold a hearing on its fairness, and could reject it if he thinks the unnamed class members deserve better terms.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  195. The use of the word “university” was a fraud in and of itself. I trust that you know the meaning of “university”.

    nk (dbc370)

  196. good riddance mitt romney and bush vermin

    this.

    happyfeet (831175)

  197. like george soros, he’s crushed currencies, enabled the rise of aq in southeast asia, shorted the market after september 11th, they did convict him in absentsia, yet it matters little, how about the racketeer warren buffet, who is almost singlehandedly blocking the keystone pipeline and inducing criminal negligence by insisting on his rail monopoly on crude transport,

    narciso (732bc0)

  198. Someone please show Perry the door…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  199. In our previous regime, scatological references were localized to happyfeet, and somewhat restrained by his sense of style and whimsy.

    Under the new paradigm, everybody is loading up with crotch sniffing jabs from left field.

    Lab report for the unintended consequences of new legislation.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  200. an indoctrination center that kicks three quarter of their pelf to democrats, for a 1000 Alex,

    narciso (732bc0)

  201. effects of arbitrary PC edicts.

    A general coarsening of public interactions.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  202. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman… the ferret-faced, shifty eyed prick.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  203. #139 Bill H,

    I don’t know what to tell you. We actually got to choose our schedules in high school. Did I want to take math during third period—or fifth period? With teacher X, or teacher Y? Oh, I hear teacher Y is a witch, so, I’ll take teacher X, even though he’s a jerk, too.
    But Mr Jones is the coolest art teacher of all time, so I’ll sign up for his first period class.
    That’s how it was.
    Your experience may have been different, and that’s fine.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  204. well there is feedback about professors, but that’s beside the point, it’s mostly a performance piece, and you have to rate it that way,

    narciso (732bc0)

  205. Is Golden State about to choke away their historical season? Someone please tell me, “NO!”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  206. Klay Thompson’s an assassin!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  207. Your experience may have been different, and that’s fine.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/28/2016 @ 8:22 pm

    My experience wasn’t too different. At least, the two years I spent at Leavenworth. My point, and I was probably a little too florid making it, was in school even though you can choose the period and the subsequent teacher, it’s not the same as choosing a President. I saw what you were aiming for. I just thought your analogy doesn’t hold up is all.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  208. Is Golden State about to choke away their historical season?

    To which historical season do you refer?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  209. Is Golden State about to choke away their historical season? Someone please tell me, “NO!”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 5/28/2016 @ 8:31 pm

    You mean the Golden State Warriors?

    Bill H (971e5f)

  210. Bill H,

    The analogy was that I had to choose between two unlikable math teachers in high school just as I’m going to choose between two unlikable presidential candidates later this year.
    I wasn’t comparing the impact of high school math upon my life to the impact of a President & government upon my life.
    Relax, man. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  211. Colonel Haiku,
    The Warriors are in the driver’s seat now, going home for Game 7.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  212. it’s a shell game, apparently jstreet is a pass through like aig was for foreign counterparts,

    https://twitter.com/jordanschachtel/status/733762111277551616

    narciso (732bc0)

  213. Oh, yeah! OKC is a helluva team!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  214. 155. In any case, Narciso, the Illinois RINO Party should have held its prudish bearings in check, welcomed 7 of 9 the same way as any Big Bang nerd, and kept a relatively competitive Jack Ryan in that one Senate race many wish they go back in time to alter.

    urbanleftbehind (809d9e)

  215. Oh. Golden State basketball team. Stopped watching the NBA after the refs jobbed the Kings.

    So carbeques in Oakland if they lose. Guess we gotta root for the home team.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  216. I’m f*ckin amazed anybody can remember high school let alone would want to argue it.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  217. Jack Ryan was a carpetbagger with no previous political experience. The disarray was caused by Peter Fitzgerald not running for a second term (I think that’s the competent guy you meant ulb), and a real dumbbell Illinois GOP whose last great achievement had been electing another Ryan (George) who was now in the pokey, and decided to run yet one more Ryan (Jim) against Blagojevich to replace him.

    nk (dbc370)

  218. Oh, you said “competitive”. I agree. Like I said … dumbbells. Alan Keyes, Mein Gott!

    nk (dbc370)

  219. #224 papertiger,

    That 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Kings and Lakers was a total refereeing disaster. The Kings got totally screwed over. Once again, the marquee team (The Shaq & Kobe Lakers) always got the benefit of the whistle, just as Michael Jordan’s Bulls always did back in their day.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  220. http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/

    It was good at Guadalcanal. It was good ant Iwo Jima. It was good at Okinawa. It is good now. Who does not have their Garand? Raise your hand in disgrace. You have no excuse. Go and crawl to get your Garands and report back for PT.

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  221. okinawa’s where we do all the rape rape

    happyfeet (831175)

  222. Is there not anything you can’t ruin?

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  223. Cmon, Steve. You’ve been at parties like this.

    Folks just give up and walk away.

    Simon Jester (6ba919)

  224. I regret, Simon, I would ruin every party you ever threw up until the first feminist said “I don’t know why anyone wants a gun.”

    Steve57 (2aedfb)

  225. Very interesting blog. Alot of blogs I see these days don’t really provide anything that I’m interested in, but I’m most definately interested in this one. Just thought that I would post and let you know.

    list of emoticons (99252c)


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