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5/10/2016

Flurry of Lawsuits Over Bathroom Law

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:19 am



CNN:

The United States and North Carolina tangled over transgender rights on Monday, with the Justice Department filing a civil rights lawsuit over the state’s so-called bathroom bill and state officials defiantly filing suits against the federal directive to stop the implementation of the controversial legislation.

Also, a major player in North Carolina — the state’s public university system — defied the governor and legislature and told the Justice Department on Monday it intends to act “in compliance with federal law” as it relates to House Bill 2, known as HB2.
The Justice Department seeks declaratory relief and threatens to curtail federal funding to the North Carolina Department of Public Safety and the University of North Carolina.

Once you give the federal government unlimited money to grant to (or withhold from) states as they see fit, the states have to dance to their tune or get slammed. I like that North Carolina is standing up to them in favor of their constitutional authority to decide such matters at a state level.

P.S. Americans face a stark choice this November between a candidate who thinks the North Carolina law never should have been passed, and a candidate who thinks the thinks the North Carolina law never should have been passed but then kinda sorta walked that back.

43 Responses to “Flurry of Lawsuits Over Bathroom Law”

  1. Ted Cruz totally totally owned the predatory pedophile tranny bathroom issue

    and the voters still rejected him?

    how?

    is unpossible!

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  2. Or maybe Trump has a better understanding of what is or isn’t a national issue, and that pandering or attacking the mentally challenged is a zero sum game when there are plenty of real issues (not tailored to the Democrats liking) to take position on.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  3. Maybe you should take a tour of George Stephanopolis’ reportings to get some fresh talking points.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  4. I think George would be your best bet for bumper sticker slogans for your cause.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  5. Trannies For Trump, Trump For Trannies. Just learn to hold it in, ladies.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. I people want to see North Carolina prevail, they should encourage as many males as possible to invade the ladies rooms across the country. For all the abstract sympathy for transgenders, the reality of a man with a beard walking into their comfort zone will freak the ladies out. Big time! This will not be decided in court, it will be decided by public opinion.

    Democrats pull stunts like this in election years to pander to the gay community. This one goes too far.

    Corky Boyd (2c491d)

  7. Mr. Boyd,

    That is the only way to push back on this issue. Need to stage civil disobedience all over in bathrooms where these stupid “gender neutral” laws exist.

    njrob (5530db)

  8. pro tip: if you super worried about the predatory pedophile bathroom trannies?

    astronaut diapers!

    h/t: Mr. buttons

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  9. I think these state laws are silly and not needed but Washington has no business under any sane interpretation of the law to intervene here. This is another example of how the unaccountable administrative state – the OCR of the DOJ just making this up based on their own wishes – threatens our liberties.

    Imagine Trump being asked about federalism? “I love federalism, nobody loves it more than I do. Federalist love me!!”

    Okay, define it? Trump: “Did you see what I did to Jeb? And Cruz? I’m a winner.”

    SteveMG (137e76)

  10. Rememeber when America didn’t focus 24 hours a day on worshiping sexual deviants?

    CrustyB (69f730)

  11. I wonder if Hastert has wrestled any tranny’s?

    mg (31009b)

  12. I people want to see North Carolina prevail, they should encourage as many males as possible to invade the ladies rooms across the country. For all the abstract sympathy for transgenders, the reality of a man with a beard walking into their comfort zone will freak the ladies out. Big time! This will not be decided in court, it will be decided by public opinion.

    Democrats pull stunts like this in election years to pander to the gay community. This one goes too far.
    Corky Boyd (2c491d) — 5/10/2016 @ 8:23 am

    Wake up and smell the coffee, Corky: There’s no such thing as “too far” to the Gaystapo.

    As people who have frequented this site for more than a few years may know, I’m a lifelong San Francisco resident that has seen the gay rights movement progress from a small “Only In San Francisco” parade to where we are today, where a woman can be accused of hatred because she’s uncomfortable with the idea of a man using the same restroom she is, and the Attorney General of the United States can call such a person a “bully.”

    Silly, immature, shallow twits like happyfeet, who has problems with both Christians and women, will never get it, because they’re too damned self-centered to comprehend the enormity of the Federal Government shoehorning a sexual minority into federal statutes and then using that questionable maneuver to prioritize their social justice goals over First Amendment rights of freedom of religion and freedom of association.

    Thank goodness Pat McCrory isn’t (thusfar) made of the gelatinous solution that Mike Pence and his ilk are.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  13. Speaking of Bathrooms:

    And a little closer to home, for Texans

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  14. oh my goodness somebody woke up this morning and said i think i’ll wear my grumpy pants today

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  15. Mr happyfeet, the issue isn’t people getting up and deciding to wear grumpy pants—it’s people who don’t have lady parts getting up and deciding to wear a dress so they can enter the ladies room where there are ladies and girls.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  16. Fu*k it!
    Trump 2016!

    Colonel Haiku (b0f43e)

  17. y’all just live in a very very dark whirl with menacing trannies and she-males and god only knows what else

    i will pray for you to lutheran jesus

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  18. Here is a winning platform for a third party candidate:
    1) Congress and all federal employees must live by the same laws as everyone else,
    and when possible should live by new laws for 6 months prior to them taking effect in the rest of the country
    2) Work to bring all laws into alignment with #1 where differences now exist
    3) Females should have bathroom and locker room facilities free from males, (some kind of nice wording)

    Those alone with some other common sense commitment to the rule of law, including changing the Constitution only by Constitutional Amendment ,
    Should win an election.

    As I said before, hopefully the feds will yet make some folk heroes out of this nonsense.
    I read a quote even from Ginsberg years ago saying it was absurd to require men and women to use the same private space.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  19. Has there ever been an instance where a transsexual has gone into a woman’s bathroom, used a toilet, and has gotten into trouble for it?
    I bet not.
    No one that I know of is suggesting testing or monitoring to prove no transsexuals use a bathroom,
    but no one with male genitalia should be allowed to expose themselves in a woman’s locker room or bathroom.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  20. Or maybe Trump has a better understanding of what is or isn’t a national issue, and that pandering or attacking the mentally challenged is a zero sum game when there are plenty of real issues (not tailored to the Democrats liking) to take position on.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/10/2016 @ 7:42 am

    Seems like the Justice Dept. is part of the federal government.

    You have no business referring to anyone as mentally challenged.

    Gerald A (945582)

  21. We’re not supposed to take positions on any issues “tailored to the Democrats liking” now according to papertiger. I’m not sure exactly what he means by that but apparently there are lots of issues that we better steer clear of. And Trump, Kasich and Bush know which issues to steer clear of, unlike weak in the knees types like Cruz.

    Gerald A (945582)

  22. oh my goodness somebody woke up this morning and said i think i’ll wear my grumpy pants today
    happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/10/2016 @ 11:01 am

    Thanks for proving my point.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  23. Gerald, to me, it seems that to “steer clear” of an issue is to concede the fight to the opponent on that issue.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  24. Gerald, to me, it seems that to “steer clear” of an issue is to concede the fight to the opponent on that issue.

    felipe (b5e0f4) — 5/10/2016 @ 11:42 am

    Yes I know. One of the rationales for Trump is that he’s a real fighter.

    Gerald A (945582)

  25. How many people thought we would be seriously debating this as a culture 10 years ago??
    I bet that even I did not think it would risk becoming the dominant view this quickly even 6 months ago.
    I bet I didn’t think an obvious arm of the executive branch would directly wade into this even last week.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  26. Papertiger, do you believe your anemic, incoherent”defenses” of Trump are helping or hurting?

    SPQR (35c375)

  27. it’s time Mr. Smithee

    time to take off them grumpy pants and put on them trumpy pants!

    here’s for so you can break in your new pants

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  28. I think these state laws are silly and not needed but Washington has no business under any sane interpretation of the law to intervene here. This is another example of how the unaccountable administrative state – the OCR of the DOJ just making this up based on their own wishes – threatens our liberties.

    Imagine Trump being asked about federalism? “I love federalism, nobody loves it more than I do. Federalist love me!!”

    Okay, define it? Trump: “Did you see what I did to Jeb? And Cruz? I’m a winner.”
    SteveMG (137e76) — 5/10/2016 @ 8:59 am

    And yet, we have the anti-NeverTrump blowhards saying that we’ve gotta get behind Orange Julius Caesar because we know what kind of SCOTUS justices Hillary’s gonna pick, but we’ve gotta take the chance that he’ll pick ones that aren’t as bad.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  29. I met her in a club down in Chicago
    Where you drink Hamms beer and it tastes like rubber hose-ah
    H-O-S-E Hose-ah

    She walked up to me and she asked me my name
    I asked her the same and in a deep dark voice she said, “Otto”
    O-T-T-O, oh oh oh oh Otto

    Well, I’m not worldly, not too quick on the draw
    But when I looked real close, I saw the beard on her jaw
    Oh my Otto, oh no oh no Otto

    Well, I’m not a genius but I did understand
    That there might be a penis when they look like a man
    Oh my Otto, oh no oh no Otto, oh no oh no Otto

    Well, we drank Hamms beer and talked all night,
    Under the dimmest barroom light

    She picked me up and sat me on her knee,
    And said, “Pretty boy won’t you come home with me?”

    Well, I’m not the world’s sharpest tool in the shed
    But when I got off her knee,
    I saw a pencil with lead
    It’s goodbye Otto, oh no oh no Otto

    Otto hell no hell no Otto hell no hell no Otto

    I pushed her away. I ran to the door.
    I’d figured the score. I ran out to the street.
    I looked at her, and it made me flee.

    Well that’s the way that it sometimes goes.
    And I never wanna see that gal name of Otto
    Oh no hell no Otto.

    Chicks will be guys, and guys will be chicks.
    I don’t mind chubby, but they can’t come with dicks
    That goes for Otto. Oh no hell no Otto
    Oh no hell no Otto

    Colonel Haiku (b0f43e)

  30. What I don’t understand is that for years liberals have been complaining that conservatives want to govern what goes on in the privacy of a person’s bedroom, arguing that violates their privacy, but they don’t have a problem with regulating what goes on in the bathroom–that’s not a violation of someone’s privacy?

    Rochf (f3fbb0)

  31. I went up to this girl, she said, Hi, my name is Sheena
    I thought she’d be good to go with a little Funky Cold Medina
    She said, I’d like a drink, I said, Ehm, ok, I’ll go get it
    Then a couple sips, she cold licked her lips
    And I knew that she was with it

    So, I took her to my crib and everything went well as planned
    But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
    So, I threw him out, I don’t fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
    You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina

    “Funky Cold Medina” – Tone Loc

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  32. Rochf (f3fbb0) — 5/10/2016 @ 2:41 pm

    , but they don’t have a problem with regulating what goes on in the bathroom–that’s not a violation of someone’s privacy?

    They have problems with people telling other people what sex they are. According to them, a person is whatever sex they say they are, and people have no right to object, because if they do, they’re imposing on them.

    There is no privacy violation, because privacy violations only occur, in the public bathroom arena, when two people of the opposite sex are in the same bathroom, and they just told you no one has a right to dispute whatever sex anyone claims to be. 2+2=5.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  33. I do think that people generally act “logically” given what they value/believe/what facts they think are true.

    There are those of liberal leanings who see our duty in life is to be nice and see Jesus as a liberal who wants everyone to share, and doesn’t think of “forced sharing” as stealing.

    Then there are those who rebel and reject the conventional, they are not interested in being “nice people”, they are interested in proclaiming they are free to do what they please,
    if that looks like saying “stay out of my bedroom”, so be it,
    if that looks like “I want to go into whatever bathroom I want to go into, then go with that.

    The real issue is what “I want to do”, not what you or anyone “should do”,
    except, of course,
    You need to let Me do what I want.

    That is the organizing principle.
    The motto of Alinsky’s patron spirit,
    “I will!!”

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  34. Can DOJ create a privileged class as part of the Executive Branch? I thought that required specific federal legislation and POTUS signature into law?

    jim2 (8e0621)

  35. You know, when I first read this, I thought it was a “Furry of Lawsuits…”

    I suppose that is next.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  36. And then for some, as with SSM, it is not enough to get to do what I want, but you have to cooperate and applaud me as well.

    Freedom is like equality, some are more free that others.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  37. It’s not all the way bad. Men In Tights Batman vs. Superman bombed. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  38. 35… Only a matter of time, Simon: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2001/03/furries200103

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. 24. Yes I know. One of the rationales for Trump is that he’s a real fighter.

    Gerald A (945582) — 5/10/2016 @ 11:46 am

    Yes. But just who will or what will he be fighting for.

    It was clear to me months ago, and it should be clear to almost everyone now, that he’ll be fighting to make deals with the Dems and against anyone in the GOP stupid enough to vote for him with the expectation he’d be keeping any promises he made to them.

    Steve57 (412496)

  40. “THE RIGHT TO BE FOUND SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL RIGHTS, RIGHT? Transgender girl says she is rejected by straight guys for ‘having male parts.’ It’s a shame that transphobia stands in the way of that fundamental entitlement.”

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/233519/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. The University system like dutiful fascists sided with Obama and the Federal govt.
    If I’m the Governor and/or Legislature of N.C.. The PURGE starts IMMEDIATELY.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  42. “THE RIGHT TO BE FOUND SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL RIGHTS, RIGHT? Transgender girl says she is rejected by straight guys for ‘having male parts.’ It’s a shame that transphobia stands in the way of that fundamental entitlement.”

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/233519/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 5/10/2016 @ 6:47 pm

    A few years ago, I was exploring the archives of newspapers from the turn of the 20th century, and was fascinated when I came across images of women throughout the generations. Looking at early photography and daguerrotypes, as well as the artwork from masters like DaVinci, Rubens, Gauguin, and others, I made this observation: For many reasons, including modern developments in nutrition, exercise, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery, dentistry, changing attitudes about “plus size” females, (and fashion that followed them), women living in 21st Century are — on the whole — the most attractive in history.

    That’s about to end. Because with the promotion of Caitlyn Jenner as an example of female beauty, we’re going to have masculine “women” thrust in our face and be dared to express a problem with it. In recent days, Sports Illustrated magazine announced they will have a cover featuring Jenner wearing little more than the Stars and Stripes. That’s right: The magazine that over the decades caused many a prepubescent boy to discover the rush of his maturing body preparing him for eventual reproduction is now going to give him the opportunity to test whether a tranny can give him a woody.

    Yeah, I said it. In crude terms. Because it’s true. No matter how much they would like to spray perfume on it, that’s the fact: Someone at SI wants to promote the idea that the great Used-To-Be-Bruce is not unusual, and the equivalent of the hundreds of magnificent women who have graced its pages over the decades. Which is nonsense.

    And the ripple effect will begin.

    Fellas, do all the girl-watching you can NOW. This is as good as it’s gonna get.

    L.N. Smithee (472caf)

  43. Massachusetts is now debating a bill similar to the one Charlotte had. If the Governor vetoes it, will the DOJ land on Massachusetts for refusing to protect sexual minorities?

    I have a feeling that this is all about making an example out of North Carolina – or any person who has the audacity to say that men ought not to shower in the women’s room. It is madness, and it is vicious.

    bridget (094986)


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