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4/23/2016

Shockingly, Trump Walks Back Comments On Paying Off National Debt

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:26 am



[guest post by Dana]

Raise your hands if you’re surprised.

Then:

Trump: “We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt.”

Woodward: “How long would that take?”

Trump: “I think I could do it fairly quickly, because of the fact the numbers…”

Woodward: “What’s fairly quickly?”

Trump: “Well, I would say over a period of eight years. And I’ll tell you why.”

Woodward: “Would you ever be open to tax increases as part of that, to solve the problem?”

Trump: “I don’t think I’ll need to. The power is trade. Our deals are so bad.”

Woodward: “That would be $2 trillion a year.”

Trump: “No, but I’m renegotiating all of our deals, Bob.

Now:

You’ve said you plan to pay off the country’s debt in 10 years. How’s that possible?

No, I didn’t say 10 years. First of all, with low interest rates, you can think in terms of refinancings, and get it down. I believe you can do certain things to pay off the debt more quickly. The most important thing is to make sure the economy stays strong. You can do it in smaller chunks. You can do it in larger chunks. And you can do it in refinancings.

How much of the debt could you pay off in 10 years?

You could pay off a percentage of it.

Who wins number of times a candidate has had to, shall we say, re-adjust his claims?

I read on the interwebs that if Trump actually gets into office, look for a shiny, new gold leaf $19 trillion dollar coin bearing his image to be issued immediately. Just one… It’ll be fabulous! This I promise you.

–Dana

77 Responses to “Shockingly, Trump Walks Back Comments On Paying Off National Debt”

  1. I’ve lost count of Trump’s walk backs.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  2. I read on the interwebs that if Trump actually gets into office, look for a shiny, new gold leaf $19 trillion dollar coin bearing his image to be issued immediately. Just one… It’ll be fabulous! This I promise you.

    I, too have no doubt it will be fabulous. Now, if we could only do something about the Zimbabwe levels of devaluation…..

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  3. someone e-mail me when this blog stops being “Trump 24/7”

    redc1c4 (f581e5)

  4. Is there no end to the opportunistic attacks on Donald Trump? He’s winning! GOP voters are everyday making it more and more clear that Trump is the choice of Conservatives and Republican voters nationwide.

    Trump is leading in New England, Indiana, and California. The handwriting is on the wall. It’s about time Cruz supporters starterd getting their heads right. We are about to engage the Democrat political machine and their media arm in combat for the soul of America.

    We’re going to need all our allies in order to prevail. It’s time to put our personal preferences
    aside and to start asking what we can do to prevent Hillary Clinton from killing the country we love.

    We won’t get another chance. It’s now or never.

    ropelight (d07703)

  5. It’s never.

    DRJ (15874d)

  6. someone e-mail me when this blog stops being “Trump 24/7″

    We’ll have to find someone who cares first, red.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. It’s never.

    It’s never. Casino operators and Slovenian hookers, crawl back in your holes. The White House is not for you.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. i like him he’s so good

    i feel so bad we lost Mr. Prince but then i remember we still have Mr. The Donald

    we still have Hope

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. red,

    I appreciate your Trump 24/7 weariness as I also share your feelings. However, given the election is around the corner and California is actually going to matter this go-around, it seems critical to keep abreast and informed of what our options are, and what the candidates are saying (or denying they said). It’s not a small matter. Let me ask, do you think voters have already made up their minds about their preferred candidate, and no more examination is necessary because it will not persuade anyone to re-consider?

    But to your point, I am working on some non-Trumpian themed posts. This latest national debt flip-flop just happened to dovetail nicely with Patterico’s post put up last night.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  10. well the state department?? official who failed upwards after approving every one of the hijacker visas is a possible topic, united health care’s bowing out of obamacare, the manifestations of our wonderful deal with the mullahs,

    narciso (732bc0)

  11. Ropelight, I am juuuuuuust open minded enough to realize that Trump may be our Obama nominee. What I’m waiting for though is the wailing, the gnashing of teeth, the rending of clothes, the overall petulance from you guys if he doesn’t make it. I personally want to see Trumpers snap their balls on and go riot if you don’t get your way.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  12. the interviewer thinks debt is fine, even at the exorbitant level at it, conversely trump wants the fed to raise rates, which would make paying off the debt, a sisyphean task,

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. He still gets copious if not humongous credit for at least broaching the subject. All the other supposed “conservatives” including the Canadian Cruz love deficit spending increasing the debt every bit as much as the libtards do, and then they all run for the tall grass when called upon to account for it.

    G Joubert (0399e8)

  14. Nobody talks more than Trump, that’s true.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. G Joubert,

    Humongous credit? Not YUGE credit—but humongous credit? (LOL)
    In 2008, Trump was supporting Hillary for President. So cool your jets before proclaiming him the next Calvin Coolidge or Grover Cleveland, in terms of fiscal responsibility, eh?

    The other thing that you’re ignoring is that we have a two-party system, and the Democrats have a “say” in spending. Especially since Barack has a pen and a phone which he uses to veto anything he doesn’t like. The fact we don’t have the requisite numbers to override his veto is not a philosophical failing of conservatives. It’s just a mathematical failing.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  16. “It’s never.”

    How can we be sure? Trumpy the Clown is a character of many, many personae. Is it truly impossible for him to fake a semblance of coherent thought which might induce us to consider joining the herring bait ball coalescing in fear of the Great White Clinton finning her way to the Oval Office? What if Trumpy starts faking the possession of principles or ethics which have never played any part in his life to date? His organ grinders swear they have a NEW! IMPROVED! Trumpy tucked away in a closet, ready to burst onto the stage with extraordinary gravitas, completely obviating his current image as a three year old with severe self control issues. NEW TRUMPY – WITH YUUUGE GRAVITAS wouldn’t get the free media exposure which has garnered Trumpy the Clown his lead in delegates but it would be entertaining to watch for its very brief period of existence.

    Rick Ballard (4a9e02)

  17. I don’t think Trump thinks. You know? He reacts. He emotes. Dramatically so.

    And this speaks very poorly of his supporters. To them, I say: imagine if he actually had policies, and consistency. This doesn’t mean “agree with me.” It means just what I wrote. Can you imagine the (ahem) huge support he would get? Much bigger than he has.

    Instead, all he is doing is spouting slogans and acting like a jerk.

    Now, if you want the whole system to fall apart, that might be a good person to support.

    But most Trump supporters say they are interested in several policy issues.

    So either Trump doesn’t really have any policy positions, or he is laughing at his supporters (and will do whatever he wants later).

    There really isn’t any middle ground.

    It doesn’t matter, because I would love to see some polling evidence he can beat HRC, corrupt and dishonest as she is.

    Post some stats on that, if you can. Not wishful thinking. Not hopes and dreams.

    Simon Jester (e83450)

  18. I’ll be your Prez on a suicide drive
    It’ll take a miracle just to survive
    Buried animals call your name
    You keep on sleepin’
    Through the pouring rain
    I think you’re going crazyf
    Your left eye’s lookin’ lazy
    They bombin’ them Israelis
    Salad years an’ gravy
    I’ll feed you fruit that don’t exist
    I’ll leave graffiti
    Where you’ve never been kissed
    I’ll do your laundry
    Massage your soul
    I’ll turn you over
    To the highway patrol
    I think you’re goin’ crazy
    Things don’t even faze me

    – Donald Trump

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. well you don’t have to focus on the first topic I suggested, in the lun,

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. I would love to see some polling evidence he can beat HRC, corrupt and dishonest as she is.

    Current ongoing polling indicates she either significantly leads (ie, against Trump) or somehwhat leads (ie, against Cruz) in the upcoming election. Witnessing that idiocy, and observing the generally satisfactory rating (around 45-50% favorable) those same polls give to the individual who all these candidates want to succeed, is why the gnashing of teeth over the personalities and flaws of the Republicans trying to beat Hillary has a desperate ring to it. It makes me think of the Donner Party fighting over the last scraps of available human flesh.

    We’re that much closer to the America that Jeremiah Wright has long dreamed about.

    Mark (2fd21b)

  21. It’s easy. Just a quick 10% national property tax, and in a few short years….

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  22. He got a bodyguard on each arm
    He got the freckle-face orange hair crazes
    He got some policies tied to the moon
    Pink eyed lookin’ to the smirk of the ages
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s got a hand on The Wheel of Pain
    He can talk to the slobbering strangers
    He can sleep in silken sheets
    Throwin’ your troubles to the dying embers
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s got a paradise camouflaged
    Like a whip-crack sendin’ ’em shivers
    Rides a boat through a strip-mine ocean
    Ridin’ low on the hedge fund rivers
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution
    He’s alone in the Trump pollution

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. that was a jonathan swift ‘modest proposal’ what would happen to the price of property,

    narciso (732bc0)

  24. just like that swift move of reducing the deductability on real estate, which was the last domino for the s&l crisis,

    narciso (732bc0)

  25. Well, a pessimist could call all these “walk backs” but a true Trump optimist would say he’s simply staking out a position. Sure, it’s different that the one he staked out last week, but sometime in the future he’ll be able to truthfully say that he suggested a refi, not an outright payoff.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  26. “Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once.”

    You got a problem with that?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  27. ure, it’s different that the one he staked out last week, but sometime in the future he’ll be able to truthfully say that he suggested a refi, not an outright payoff.

    The ultimate covering of one’s bases. Say everything, and later on down the line, you can truthfully claim to have said it. Regardless of all the other claims made about the same issue.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  28. .or the ultimate CYA.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  29. Over at Time magazing: comment from a Trump “insider”: “All campaigns pivot.”

    I’m not arguing. I can only think of one exception. Of course, I’m voting for that exception.

    My heart goes out to all Trump true believers who conned themselves into believing their man was the exception. Pobrecitos! Can’t say we didn’t warn you.

    I’m beginning to wonder just how much humiliation a Trump fan is willing to endure before breaking down and rethinking his or her position. If Obama fans are any indicator, I’d say quite a bit.

    ThOR (a52560)

  30. All the other supposed “conservatives” including the Canadian Cruz love deficit spending increasing the debt every bit as much as the libtards do, and then they all run for the tall grass when called upon to account for it.

    Couple of points, G.
    1) You really need to tone down the “Canadian Cruz” bit if you want to be taken seriously here. It plays considerably better over at Breitbart.
    2) I thought it was Cruz who single-handedly caused our government to shutdown and stop spending on our national parks and monuments. Now you accuse him of being as free-spending as any other politician. I’m confused- which is it?
    3) It’s quite obvious you’ve been brainwashed and played for a fool if you honestly believe Trump is a “conservative”.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  31. Shoulda cloned Mr. Reagan.

    mg (31009b)

  32. I’m beginning to wonder just how much humiliation a Trump fan is willing to endure before breaking down and rethinking his or her position.

    “Well, I know he said he’d build a YUUGE wall and make Mexico pay for it, but a fence is just as good, and it really doesn’t have to be all that high — the idea of a fence is what is important — and I’m sure that it will be finished by the end of his second term as he says, if Congress will fund it. Hoarders and Wreckers is what THEY are!

    And then, you’ll see, American will be great again. Especially with all those new hardworking Mexican immigrants we have coming in!”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  33. have you noticed how the same people what keep telling us Mr. Trump is no good pivot pivot pivot then they tell us Mr. Cruz is actually the best choice as if he were some kind of good person or whatever

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. Yeah, I noticed that too. It’s like Trump and Cruz are two completely different people.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. it’s surreal

    happyfeet (831175)

  36. Hubris! The gods are unforgiving and their displeasure foreshadows a great fall. Mere men should tread lightly, show respect, and be grateful for the boons they receive. Looking a gift horse in the mouth never fails to offend.

    ropelight (d07703)

  37. they think this last voodoo pin will do the trick, otoh, ropelight, the truth is hercules himself would have a time of it, trying to wrestle the debt, so would the hulk

    narciso (732bc0)

  38. The electorate of 1980 no longer exits. Cloning Reagan wouldn’t provide the answer for the current electorate which receives 23% of its income via government transfer subsidy versus the 6% received by the 1980 electorate. There are a lot more people voting for their living in 2016 than there were in 1980 and they just wouldn’t find Reagan particularly appealing.

    Rick Ballard (4a9e02)

  39. It’s time to put our personal preferences
    aside and to start asking what we can do to prevent Hillary Clinton from killing the country we love.

    We won’t get another chance. It’s now or never.

    ropelight (d07703) — 4/23/2016 @ 8:52 am

    If we want to prevent Clinton then we need to rally behind Cruz. Trump is both just as liberal as she is, and will lose to her in the general now.

    Time to Dump Trump!

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1)

  40. yes and mind arson malware has infected more than a few, that would be a problem cruz would face as well.

    narciso (732bc0)

  41. It’s always “trade deals” with this guy, never about the overspending of the Federal government, just about all those cunning foreigners and how stupid every president has ever been.

    Tyrconnell (9a0f5e)

  42. I honestly can’t believe Trump is still in the race. Also, I honestly can’t believe ropelight is still on Trumps team. Ropelight doesn’t strike me as a dummy so he is either stubborn, faking or a real true believer. One thing is, he’s loyal. I can say is he’s loyal as a Presidential body guard. The kind of guy who if he’s on your team, man, he’s really on your team!

    Well, we’re getting down to the wire so time will tell who wins. I admire ropelight’s loyalty but we still need Cruz to take it. I vote this week and it will be for Cruz but I can’t wait to see how many names are still on the ballot.

    Hoagie ™ (e4fcd6)

  43. Hubris! The gods are unforgiving and their displeasure foreshadows a great fall. Mere men should tread lightly, show respect, and be grateful for the boons they receive. Looking a gift horse in the mouth never fails to offend.
    ropelight (d07703) — 4/23/2016 @ 11:44 am

    Too true, ropelight. For more than seven years I’ve been complaining about Obama, and now there’s a chance we’re going to get a 42nd Street hustler and her snake-oil peddling husband in the White House. Or we might get Hillary and Billy which would be almost as bad.

    nk (dbc370)

  44. His walkback still shows his ignorance. He mentions low interest rates, as if it was a “solution”, seemingly ignorant that Treasury has largely rolled the debt over into low interest bonds at current rates.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  45. start asking what we can do to prevent Hillary Clinton from killing the country we love.

    Yes, why not have Trump do it instead, in our name? How could that be worse? Oh, wait…

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  46. Trump is both just as liberal as she is, and will lose to her in the general now.

    Worse, he might win, do just as bad a job, and give the Democrats a new Hoover to blame for a generation.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  47. current electorate which receives 23% of its income via government transfer subsidy versus the 6% received by the 1980 electorate

    Um. you are going to have to define your terms, because there was an AWFUL LOT of welfare and transfer payments in 1980. That 6% seems low, even if you limit it to means-tested cash payments.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  48. for what’s it’s worth, i’ve made up my mind who i’m voting for in June here in #Failifornia

    #FeelTheBern

    mostly because i’d rather 4 years of him than Shrillery. i’m not going over to the dark side, just hedging my bets, as it were.

    redc1c4 (f581e5)

  49. for what’s it’s worth, i’ve made up my mind who i’m voting for in June here in #Failifornia

    #FeelTheBern

    mostly because i’d rather 4 years of him than Shrillery. i’m not going over to the dark side, just hedging my bets, as it were.

    redc1c4 (f581e5) — 4/23/2016 @ 12:45 pm

    I giggled when I saw that, Red. For the June primary, I’m filling in that little black oval for Cruz. How I vote after that depends on how well Cruz does at the convention.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  50. Just for grins, where are you at in California, anyway?

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  51. As Trump pivots – I don’t think this is the correct word. What he is really doing is showing his true colors – the differences between Trump and Clinton narrows. I found Trump’s tranny stance revealing, because it is such an anti-conservative position. How much difference is there between Clinton and Trump when it come right down to their core beliefs? Probably not much. The big difference is style.

    Of the four remaining major candidates, Hillary is by far the most conventional. What is there that we should find especially scary about a conventional liberal? Her recent move to the left seems no different from Trump’s now disappearing conservative positions. They are poses and not truly reflective of her underlying world view.

    The Hillary scare thing isn’t cutting it for me if Shorty is the nominee.

    ThOR (a52560)

  52. mostly because i’d rather 4 years of him than Shrillery. i’m not going over to the dark side, just hedging my bets, as it were.

    So, you are registered “no party preference” then?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  53. boy girl, you kiss your mother with that mouth?

    SPQR (a3a747)

  54. boygirl/Perry,

    You continue to talk about transvestites and public restrooms. Is that a subject which animates you? We’re not judgmental, here. But we do notice that you change your moniker a lot—is that a metaphor for other changes in your life? (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  55. Of the four remaining major candidates, Hillary is by far the most conventional.

    That’s why most of the (to use that word again) conventional wisdom favors her to win. Current trends suggests she will. Republicans and right-leaning Americans are too fractured and resentful towards one another to not result in splintered voting by the time November rolls around.

    That’s a big reason I can’t get all that worked up over the weaknesses of the Republican candidates. It’s similar to fussing about closing the proverbial barn door after the proverbial horse has bolted.

    Most crucially, too much of the electorate is viscerally far too liberal and surprisingly far too sanguine after 8 years of “goddamn America” to be relied upon to make a sound choice this year. So Cruz, due to ideology and non-optimum charisma, and Trump, due to flakiness and obnoxiousness, probably won’t make it past November.

    Euro-sclerosis, here we come!

    Mark (2fd21b)

  56. if conventional is worm ridden filth, gathered from every den of scum and villainy, then yes,

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11485090/hillary-clinton-super-pac-1-million-online-critics

    narciso (732bc0)

  57. KevinM,

    The government transfer comparison comes from BEA Table 2.1. Personal Income and Its Disposition. The percentages of income are correct but digging out detail wrt specific welfare programs requires further digging. Medicaid does provide a single item comparison. It was .5% of total personal income in 1980, it is currently 4.6%.

    Panem et circenses just ain’t as free as they used to be.

    Rick Ballard (4bc02f)

  58. On November 10, when Hillary is celebrating her victory over The Mr Donald, I hope the Trump Fan Boys will be man/woman/trans/non-binary enough to admit, “Yeah, you Cruzbots/Rubioheads/Fiorinafreaks were right; and Hillary won.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  59. I just saw my first campaign ad for a presidential candidate over a broadcast network.
    I’m in my fifties. Sure I saw the “Does a bear carp in the woods?” campaign ad on a news analysis show.

    This was different. A campaign ad loose in the wild, without a talking head voice over to tell me what I’m supposed to think about it.
    In it’s natural habitat. Fresh from the cutting room. Sponsoring a show I was kind of half ashed interested in.

    People in Iowa are thinking, “What the heck is he on about?”

    California never matters in a primary, except this year.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  60. Three articles addressing Trump’s very clear flip-flops.
    Two comments by Trump-worshiping ropelight saying, in effect, “Leave (sniff, sniff) Donald (sniff, sniff) Trump (snivvle) Alone! (Waaaaaah!)”
    No comments by Trump-worshiping ropelight discussing what his god just did.
    No comments at all by papier mache tiger.

    The overwhelming evidence is in: THEY DO NOT WANT TO see any of Trump’s dishonorable statements or actions. Ever. But they will still worship at his craven feet.

    John Hitchcock (8c6708)

  61. Aaaaaand, as I was typing that up, papier mache tiger just made his first comment, and it had nothing to do with what Trump got caught doing.

    John Hitchcock (8c6708)

  62. There is danger in taking the tiger’s cub and there is also danger in snatching the delusion from a Trumpkin, John. (With apologies to Sherlock Holmes.)

    nk (dbc370)

  63. Or we could go Shakespearian, in honor of JVW’s new post:

    It is not love that alters when it alteration finds?

    nk (dbc370)

  64. when Hillary is celebrating her victory

    That will say more about the American electorate — or a majority of it — than it will say anything about the candidate she runs against. That wouldn’t necessarily be the case, particularly given the major flaws of someone like Trump, if her poll ratings hadn’t been inexplicably, ridiculously high for over 20 years—with her scroungy husband’s being not much behind hers.

    Or if Al Gore hadn’t almost won the election in 2000.

    Or if “Goddamn America” hadn’t won in 2008 and again in 2012.

    Or if a rather photogenic, ideologically “compassionate conservative” Mitt Romney hadn’t been rather easily beaten during the last go-around. A Republican, moreover, not threatening to all those Americans who in 2016 say they find Donald Trump as quite threatening and, most tellingly, deem Ted Cruz as not much less threatening.

    Or if opinion polls didn’t indicate younger Americans are now more liberal than ever before.

    A democracy that is an idiocracy is an idiocracy due mainly to a country’s populace.

    Mark (2fd21b)

  65. You know how many stars there are in our galaxy?

    Answer: 400 billion.

    You know how much money foodstamp has pissed away adding to the national debt?

    Answer: More than $6 trillion dollars worth.

    If each star were a dollar, Obama has added more than 150 Milky Way galaxies worth to the debt.

    I never heard Trump make any promises to close out the national debt. It’s all news to me.
    So him back tracking (supposedly upon being informed of the scope of the crisis) on an issue I never heard him address doesn’t make much of a dent.

    But if Trump stops the AG’s United against affordable energy along with the boutique unicorn fart power sources those scum and vermin push, we will all be moving in the right direction, closing in on the goal.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  66. at the time, they were focusing on some other ‘outrage’ eleventy, in that piece,

    narciso (732bc0)

  67. I never heard Trump make any promises to close out the national debt. It’s all news to me.
    So him back tracking (supposedly upon being informed of the scope of the crisis) on an issue I never heard him address doesn’t make much of a dent.

    In other words: This Trumpkin shill confesses that he hasn’t the least interest in conservatism or policy generally, and that nothing Trump could say would ever change his faith in Trump.

    It’s not politics for the Trumpkin shills. It’s religion.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  68. Beldar, I think that some of these folks just want to burn everything down. I have heard that before, in other elections. Otherwise, I cannot explain why the flip-flops (clearly due to Trump pulling slogans out of his backside without thought or policy) don’t seem to matter to them.

    Simon Jester (28b37e)

  69. I never heard Trump make any promises to close out the national debt. It’s all news to me.
    So him back tracking (supposedly upon being informed of the scope of the crisis) on an issue I never heard him address doesn’t make much of a dent.

    But if Trump stops the AG’s United against affordable energy along with the boutique unicorn fart power sources those scum and vermin push, we will all be moving in the right direction, closing in on the goal.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/23/2016 @ 6:24 pm

    First he says he never heard Trump promise to close out the national debt so he doesn’t care if he’s not going to do it. Then he gives as a reason to vote for Trump something he’s never said he’d do. Further, I don’t see how the President could even stop that. They aren’t part of the federal government.

    So something the President could not do AFAIK and that Trump has never so much as hinted he’d do or even expressed any opinion on, is a reason to vote for him, but something he said he would do and then abandoned means nothing since papertiger never was aware that he’d ever said that. papertiger supports Trump based on things that exist in his head and nowhere else. Based on what I’ve seen, I conclude that if Trump came out and endorsed what those state AG’s are doing it would make no difference whatsoever.

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  70. Trump trumped in Maine

    Maybe Manafort, Carson and Wiley would perform better if he gave them big raises. It’s nice to see LePage take a hard shot to the groin. He earned it.

    Rick Ballard (4bc02f)

  71. LePage is the quintessential Trumpkin. One time he said he didn’t want dark-skinned New Yorkers coming to Maine to impregnate its young women. Really.

    nk (dbc370)

  72. Yup. Someday you too will have a team of narrators ‘close captioning’ your comments, if you play your cards right.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  73. Let’s make something clear. When referring to Donald Trump promising to pay off the national debt, this is a contemporary utterance?

    You aren’t referring to Donald Trump’s campaign platform when he was toying with the idea of a run in 2000?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  74. Same radio station in Sacramento that brings us Rush Limbaugh, KFBK 1530, there are not one but two hour long infomercials hawking government subsidized residential solar panels.

    http://kfbk.iheart.com/onair/the-smart-energy-show-55836/
    http://kfbk.iheart.com/onair/westhaven-solar-power-energy-show-57199/

    Disguised as entertainment!

    These are not to be confused with the smart energy and solar panel companies they were brought to us via KFBK six months ago, or last year. Those guys went bankrupt. Ran out of government funding.
    Means the same thing with this sort.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. First claim: March 31, 2016
    Weasel out: April 21, 2016
    That is the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Sixteen.

    Easily seen if some Trumpkin had clicked the link provided by Patterico.

    Get your facts before you get to distorting them, Lying Trumpkin.

    nk (dbc370)

  76. If the Trump worshipers, such as papier mache tiger and ropelight, weren’t able to lie, they wouldn’t be able to talk about Trump.

    John Hitchcock (8c6708)


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