Obama Appointee And Bundler Grants Temporary Restraining Order Against Release Of Recordings From Planned Parenthood Annual Meeting
[guest post by Dana]
A federal judge late Friday granted a temporary restraining order against the release of recordings made at an annual meeting of abortion providers. The injunction is against the Center for Medical Progress, the group that has unveiled Planned Parenthood’s participation in the sale of organs harvested from aborted children.
Judge William H. Orrick, III, granted the injunction just hours after the order was requested by the National Abortion Federation.
Orrick was nominated to his position by hardline abortion supporter President Barack Obama. He was also a major donor to and bundler for President Obama’s presidential campaign. He raised at least $200,000 for Obama and donated $30,800 to committees supporting him, according to Public Citizen.
Even though the National Abortion Federation filed its claim only hours before, Orrick quickly decided in their favor that the abortionists they represent would, ironically, be “likely to suffer irreparable injury, absent an ex parte temporary restraining order, in the form of harassment, intimidation, violence, invasion of privacy, and injury to reputation, and the requested relief is in the public interest.”
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (86e864) — 8/1/2015 @ 7:53 amThere is a theme emerging here. Just like TDPK, the abortion industry, and progressives in general, cannot abide by someone revealing the truth about them.
I don’t suppose this judge has ever heard of the First Amendment.
I truly fear that we are approaching a time when we will have nothing but the Second Amendment to rely upon. I fear for my liberty like I would never have imagined only 10 years ago.
Remember when we used to revile Bill Clinton as an evil progressive? These recent videos have lifted the veil and shown us true evil. The barbarians have donned designer suits and sip expensive wine and are fully prepared to illegally use the power of the state to suppress our liberties and enslave us.
I wonder what will be left of America for my children and grandchildren.
WarEagle82 (d7d337) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:00 amthey should just release the videos anyways
failmerican courts are whimsical arrogant capricious and stupid if we did everything they said this would be a pitiful country to live in with a very bleak future indeed
happyfeet (831175) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:12 amI think this is a mistake. The theory that getting bad news out quickly so it can be called “old news” usually works better. Just ask Richard Nixon. This will string out the story for weeks and more and more people will hear about it, even LIVs.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:15 amOrrick was born in San Francisco, California on May 15, 1953. He received his Bachelor of Arts cum laude, from Yale University in 1976.
oh my goodness
the infestation of the court system by berobed ivy league anti free speech trash is a wee lil bit alarming if you ask me which nobody does cause of i am (unfairly) perceived to be fundamentally unserious
and it hurts my feelings
happyfeet (831175) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:18 amOhse Nooooesss! They will be at potential risk of violence.
Like, you know, being selectively crushed and having their organs picked at by chuckling ghouls.
Oh, no. Wait. That’s someone else.
Robert C. J. Parry (debfa4) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:27 amGreetings:
Perhaps as paraphrase is in order. Would “It takes a a village to raze a child.” do ???
11B40 (0f96be) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:33 amThere’s an interesting video from the Media Research Center circulating among some the the right-leaning interweb stopovers concerning visitors who have just exited the National Archives. An interviewer asks them to identify three of the five natural rights delineated in the First Amendment. They all fail.
This is strong evidence that our media watchdog is long dead and has been replaced by a canine-like ventriloquist’s mannequin provided by the Joseph Goebbels School of Taxidermy.
If you don’t know what you’ve lost. How will you know that you’ve lost it?
PPs43 (6fdef4) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:44 amJustice … I first noticed the lack of justice when the Juice walked away scott free. Since then justice has been slaloming—or careening?—down the slippery slope of immorality to the point where you can’t tell from one day to the next what’s against the law or what’s required by law.
Jack (ff1ca8) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:46 amYears ago, the Fourth Estate would have barked loudly if anyone would have stomped down on our most cherished beliefs. Now, that enterprise seems to be completely unaware of it’s intended role in our society.
There’s an interesting video from the Media Research Center circulating among some the the right-leaning interweb stopovers concerning visitors who have just exited the National Archives. An interviewer asks them to identify three of the five natural rights delineated in the First Amendment. They all fail.
This is strong evidence that the old media watchdog is long dead and has been replaced by a canine-like ventriloquist’s mannequin provided by the Joseph Goebbels School of Taxidermy.
If you don’t know what you’ve lost. How will you know that you’ve lost it?
PPs43 (6fdef4) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:55 amOoopsy. Pardon the double post.
PPs43 (6fdef4) — 8/1/2015 @ 8:55 amHow “lucky” they were to find a sympathetic leftist judge!
Patricia (5fc097) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:01 amThis is no judge. This is a leftist political hack who should be impeached and disbarred.
Think about this for a minute. He wrote that the RELEASE of the videos showing the abortionists talking about what they do would cause the abortionists “irreperable harm”…with completely chilling lack of concern about the harm from what the abortionists actually DO.
If what the abortionists are on videotape doing or discussing is nothing to be concerned over because of the legality of abortion, then why are the abortionists afraid of videos showing them discussing the “legal” practice of abortion?
So one could argue, at this point only philosophically, that this judge, along with everyone else who is still defending Planned Parenthood’s barbarism, is engaged in a criminal conspiracy.
You have to wonder about the mindset of someone who is so enthralled by the need to have no consequences imposed upon them for their actions that they willingly refuse to be faced with evidence of the gruesome murders committed by the butchers of Planned Parenthood.
Pete (ceb4bf) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:04 amThere are 6 rightsdelineated in the First Amendment.
egd (b7526e) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:05 amYes, egd, the commas do make all the difference, don’t they?
PPs43 (6fdef4) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:10 amThere are various really idiotic or foolish rulings from the court system over the past 20 years that can be traced to judges appointed by Jimmy Carter way back in the late 1970s. Just imagine what kind of damage the appointees of President “Goddamn America” will be doing to the judiciary and society in the future, over the next several decades.
Mark (f32097) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:12 amThe pass-it-forward destruction by these rotten anti American anti God pigs is amazing isn’t it Mark?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:51 amJudge Orrick was recommended by none other than Sen. Barbara Boxer.
What a great strategy by CMP to slowly string out the release of the videos. The closer it pushes to the election, the better for Republicans. It also keeps Hillary on the ropes and in the spotlight for her close ties to the organization.
Dana (86e864) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:11 amOnly millions in the street will convince 6 democrats to abort p.p.
mg (31009b) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:17 amWould any lawyers on the thread care to comment on the likelihood of a permanent order being issued to disallow release of the recordings assuming they met state law where they were recorded? My (limited) experience with TROs in a business context is that they often are not effective long term but do serve the purpose of temporarily slowing things down so the unhappy parties (in this case the National Abortion Association ) can buy time to use and attempt other PR and legal avenues. But TRO’s like this also create curiosity. I agree with Mike K.@4.
elissa (97a414) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:34 amYou can’t stop the signal.
mojo (a3d457) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:55 amyou know this is what the Alliance would do,
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:57 amHow “lucky” they were to find a sympathetic leftist judge!
Who just happened to have an opening on his calendar to hear the request.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:21 amI guess they could ask for an emergency action from Anthony Kennedy. For dignity!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:23 amDid some very fast research and learned that there are over 3000 federal judges. It seems that any one of these can at will order the Earth, at least the part within US borders, to tilt on its axis. This feels like the tail wagging the dog. Panels of judges might or should be able to wield this kind of power, but not lone judges.
LTMG (94c4c3) — 8/1/2015 @ 2:39 pmIt’s my understanding that this prior restraint order is unconstitutional on its face. The judge is preventing the release of a video that itself doesn’t constitute a threat.
This is like banning the movie Mississippi Burning because some third party might be set off and resort to violence (which is exactly what happened).
But over at Popehat there’s an interesting observation about the earlier, narrower TRO issued by the LA judge:
http://popehat.com/2015/07/30/l-a-court-prohibits-center-for-medical-progress-from-publishing-some-undercover-materials-about-abortion/#more-24171
I wouldn’t be surprised if the CMP didn’t take that
precaution. I know, for instance, that the CMP had provided the TX AG with at least one tape. How many others is anybodies guess.
I think if I were the CMP I’d have at least taken that precaution after the LA ruling with any remaining video not covered by that ruling. Just in case.
Steve57 (0ccd36) — 8/1/2015 @ 3:06 pmAn honest judge would have stepped aside for the moment… but this judge was not appointed to be honest, he was appointed because he was an all in sell out for Obama. Vendido as the Mexicans say: Sold
steveg (fed1c9) — 8/1/2015 @ 5:06 pmGiven that Eugene Volokh agrees this ruling is likely correct (or at least not incorrect) I have a hard time getting worked up about it.
Soronel Haetir (86a46e) — 8/1/2015 @ 5:20 pmHehe. Further to my last comment, I was driving around earlier listening to the radio and during one of the top-of-the-hour news breaks it was reported that the TX AG’s office has several hours of video from the CMP.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if more third parties yet unknown have those hours of recordings as well. And as Ken White of Popehat observed, no Obama hack judge can stop them from releasing the videos.
Steve57 (0ccd36) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:33 pmSoronel Haetir @28, as soon as I read your comment I knew you were misrepresenting the facts. Sure enough:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/07/31/national-abortion-federation-seeks-pretrial-injunction-blocking-release-of-videos-of-its-conference/
And this judge did not base his ruling on breach of contract. Had he, the you’d have a point.
But the judge didn’t so you don’t.
This remains blatantly unconstitutional.
Steve57 (0ccd36) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:46 pmThe Texas AG is presumably more interested in any evidence of a crime shown by the tapes than releasing them to the public.
Which may be more complicated ,since Texas is as I understand it one of the states where the local PP did not participate in organ harvesting meaning whatever crime was committed was done outside of Texas and therefore outside the Texas AG’s jurisdiction.
But perhaps the AG could subpoena all the videos. I am fairly sure no judge could keep them from getting the videos that way.
kishnevi (93670d) — 8/1/2015 @ 10:53 pmAn honest judge would have stepped aside for the moment… but this judge was not appointed to be honest, he was appointed because he was an all in sell out for Obama.
As with the guy who appointed him, he probably is the type who becomes very indignant and resentful when it comes to normative conservatism or rightism within the context of the Western World, including the realm of Christianity, but is very emotionally, philosophically accommodating or permissive towards the reactionary nature — the say the least — of Sharia-fanatic Islamism. If so, he’d be a perfect candidate to run into a gang of Islamofascists out plying their trade (ie, looking to pass the test that allows a person to meet 72 virgins in heaven) one fateful day. Or the concept of “you (the judge) broke it, now you pay for it!”
Mark (f32097) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:18 pmNo, kishnevi, at least one TX affiliate did participate in fetal tissue harvesting as late as 2010. And they will be releasing the videos to the legislature, which will no doubt make some of the video public. And the TX AG may not have to subpoena anything; they may have it all.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2015/07/29/texas-lawmakers-set-to-scrutinize-planned-parenthood/30821593/
It looks like Judge William H. Orrick, III was at least two days late and a couple of hundred thou in Democratic party campaign bundling short, at least regarding one third party his late-to-the-game TRO doesn’t apply to.
And who knows how many more third parties there are?
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:28 pmFirst of all, the headline is incorrect. The meeting CMP is enjoined from revealing is that of the National Abortion Federation, not of Planned Parenthood. Dana, could you please fix it?
Note that, like the previous injunction, this one is limited to one specific meeting. CMP is thus under orders not to publish anything gathered at two specific meetings, but remains free to publish anything else.
Steve57:
Yes, he did. That is the basis of the NAF’s suit.
egd:
I only see five. As Justice Thomas keeps pointing out, the absence of an established church is not a right. The amendment prohibits Congress from establishing one, or from infringing five rights that people have.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:36 pmsteve @ 026 – It looks like also the folks who got the original LA County TRO, StemExpress, may have done themselves a bit of judge shopping by going to LA County. StemExpress itself is headquartered in Placerville, in El Dorado County. The recorded meeting took place in a suburb of Sacramento, El Dorado Hills, but which is still in El Dorado County. By my reading, the application for this TRO should have been in El Dorado County, but El Dorado is one of those pesky Sierra Foothill counties that has the nasty habit of voting deep deep red in elections.
Proof positive of the old maxim that “it’s not who you sue, it’s where you sue.”
SierraSpartan (50ac45) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:43 pmMilhouse, follow the links to the TRO and cite the language where the judge says National Abortion Federation will suffer irreparable harm due to alleged breach of contract. That is, the supposed contract the NAB and the CMP entered into via a non-disclosure agreement.
None of the harms the judge cites has anything to do with a non-disclosure agreement, which concerns all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which the disclosing party, in this case the NAB, is engaged in.
The judge cites harms caused by theoretical negative emotional reactions of people who have nothing to do with the abortion industry.
Since when have NDAs involved anything of the sort?
The judge is barring the CMP from exercising its 1st Amendment right to engage in free speech because some people may consider it inflammatory. Which is blatantly unconstitutional.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/1/2015 @ 11:56 pmAlso, Milhouse, since when do contracts bind people to promise not to disclose potential criminal conduct?
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:01 amSteve, the entire basis of NAF’s lawsuit is the breach of the NDA. The harms the judge lists are those the NAF says it would suffer if CMP were to breach their contract and release the tapes.
How do you know this? Did you read the NDA? According to NAF, the NDA says the person signing it will not record anything and will not disclose anything he learns at the meeting. That is the condition on which CMP’s representative was allowed into the meeting in the first place. On Monday NAF will have to prove its case, and CMP will be able to argue against it, but in the meantime the judge has ordered CMP not to jump the gun, because if it does this will cause NAF harms of the sort described, that won’t be able to be repaired with a fine.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:04 amSince when do they not? They may be immune if they report what they learned, in confidence, to the appropriate authorities, on the basis that they’re under a legal duty to do so, or at least that restraining them from doing so is contrary to the public interest. Though in that case the obvious question was why they didn’t do so the day after they got the information. But they are certainly under no duty, legal or civic, to reveal it to the public, so the contract would be valid. This is all assuming (as the judge must for the purpose of issuing the TRO) that the NAF is telling the truth.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:09 amIt’s not six rights in the first amendment. One of the commas is regarding the congress establishing an official state religion. The global warming religion being an example.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:12 amThat’s not an individual right like the other five. Worship, speech, press, assembly, petition the government.
Also, you’re assuming that whatever CMP learned at the NAF meeting is evidence of a crime. We don’t know that yet. I have no idea who NAF is, or what it does. Apparently it’s so hush-hush that even the dates of its meetings are secret. So I can’t know whether it participates in any crime.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:18 amMilhouse. The non-disclosure agreement you describe sound like a crime in and of itself, violating the “non-profit” special protected status of Planned Parenthood. They have trade secrets?
Dash Hammett, a non profit isn’t competing with anybody. If they are in competition with other murder for hire operations, basing their price signal on that. they are violating the law already.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:22 amAnd who is to say they didn’t? The CMP did a comprehensive three year investigation. Why should they have sent the authorities any videos the day after their suspicions were aroused, as opposed to after they confirmed their suspicions? The TX AG revealed Wednesday that his office had “hours of recordings.” He didn’t reveal when he received them.
I look forward to the NAB trying to collect damages from the CMP for the irreparable harm it caused by publicly revealing details of its operations which resulted in several criminal convictions, large fines, and court costs.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:35 amPapertiger, you have no idea what you’re talking about. First of all, it’s got nothing to do with Planned Parenthood; the NDA is with National Abortion Federation. Second, why on earth shouldn’t a not=for-profit demand NDAs from those to whom it reveals confidential information? What is it about being a not-for-profit that should preclude them? And a crime?! How could an NDA possibly be a crime?
Of course not-for-profits have competitors. And even without competitors they have secrets that they don’t want disclosed. I have worked for non-for-profits, and signed NDAs.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:39 amIf they did then that’s obviously not covered by this order, is it?
What qualifies them to decide whether something is a crime? Surely as soon as they get evidence that seems to point to a crime they should turn it over to the law. If they didn’t, then how can they claim immunity for doing it now?
NAF. And publishing the information can’t possibly result in a criminal conviction; the public doesn’t prosecute crimes.
Again, all of this is assuming NAF is telling the truth, which for the purposes of a TRO one must assume. On Monday CMP gets to challenge the claims, and we may find out how much truth is in them.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:44 amBTW we have no idea whether the TX AG has received any material at all about NAF.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:45 amYou’re not supposed to be able to know if it participates in any crime. That’s why the NAF’s NDA is written like the Mafia’s code of Omerta. That’s why it requires everyone to sign onto the entire criminal conspiracy before they can attend any conferences or sit in on any meetings.
The harm in the form harassment, intimidation, violence, invasion of privacy, and injury to reputation that they’re really worried would come in the form of law enforcement investigations, the TX AG’s investigation, and the TX legislature’s hearings if, as the PPRM’s senior medical officer made clear in the fourth release, they get caught.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:45 amThat’s it for now, I’ll try to come back in the morning, or some time tomorrow, to answer any replies, but for now I’m nodding off at the computer, it’s 3:46am, and I can’t keep this up any longer.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:46 amOh, we cross-posted. I’ll answer this one.
You’re assuming your conclusion. We don’t know that NAF commits any crimes. And lots of organzations maintain secrecy without committing any crimes.
No, it wouldn’t. That is not what they are claiming at all. They claim the harassment, etc., would come from pro-lifers who’d be upset at what they learn.
Who gets caught? What has the NAF got to do with whatever TX is investigating?
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:49 amFrom http://prochoice.org/about-naf/support-naf/ . Interesting that NAF doesn’t come right out and say they’re a nonprofit with special tax exemptions on their “about us” page. They have it on their pass the hat begging for your money page.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:54 amThat’s cute, Milhouse. What they’re claiming and what they’re really worried about are two different things. As if they could go to a judge and ask him to enforce the NDA because the confidential information it covers is potentially incriminating. Is that what you’d expect them to say?
In a way you’re right, though. I’ll correct my previous statement.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:58 amThis is off-topic but it so surprised me that I wanted to post it right now. I have to say to the interviewee, “here, here!”
I do recall Lear attending Ronald Reagan’s funeral in 2004 but I assumed that was mainly because he was a longtime friend of Nancy Reagan by way of her connections to the entertainment industry and that he likely felt uncomfortable with the overall political atmosphere of such an occasion (Reagan’s snarky youngest liberal son notwithstanding). Perhaps not. And although Lear admits to having plenty of squish — and ends his comments with a bit of Nidal-Hassan-ism patriotism — in the context of today’s Hollywood and Obama’s America, I’ll take it.
Mark (f32097) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:00 amJeez, I just copied and pasted the above quote from my earlier comment and look at how my optical mouse mangled it.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:01 amThey are not a commercial business. To pretend they are for the benefit of a non disclosure agreement means they are evading taxes.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:02 amApparently, papertiger, they’re really a top-secret “charity” organization.
Steve57 (5a07a9) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:04 amThat’s from the IRS. If you claim property rights over information due to it’s commercial value, and still hide behind the charity exemption, that makes you a tax cheat.
Tax evasion is a crime. Good enough to take down Al Capone. Why not these murderous aholes?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:11 amPlanned Murderhood will stay alive because too many make too much.
mg (31009b) — 8/2/2015 @ 2:35 amThat’s not interesting at all. 501(c)(3) status is not at all special. Just about every not-for-profit that doesn’t engage in politics has it. NAF’s pro-life counterparts have it too, and they don’t advertise it on their “about” pages either, because it’s just not relevant there. It’s only relevant if you want to donate, so that’s where it belongs.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 10:25 amThat’s your opinion, but I see no basis for it. What makes you think, a) that NAF has committed any crimes, and b) that it has done so in TX? What has PPRM’s senior medical officer’s statement got to do with NAF? As far as I know, NAF is not even alleged to have committed any crimes, and I find it hard to imagine what crimes it might have committed. I assume that the recording in question would be very embarassing for NAF, and might even incriminate some other entity or person, but not NAF.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 10:31 amWhere did you get the bizarre idea that only commercial businesses may have NDAs?
Exactly like their pro-life counterparts.
You are making two basic errors: That non-for-profits have no information of commercial value, and that NDAs may only be used to protect information of commercial value. Actually you seem to be making a third error as well: that not-for-profits may not engage in commerce. I can’t imagine where you got any of those ideas; they are simply not true.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 10:43 amIt depends heavily on public funding. If that is withdrawn, it will collapse. Others will step in to take its place, but it will be gone, and those who work for it will have to find jobs with those other people.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 10:45 amCf ACORN.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/2/2015 @ 10:45 amfetal tissue research is good for america i decided after doing some clicking and reading and clicking and reading
there’s lots of stuff on the internet about how much good comes out of it
a lot of times the babies what are aborted in the second trimester are being aborted cause of they are sick or deformed in some way what needs to be studied just like how we do with the bodies of grown-up people what die
plus also fetal tissues can help scientists learn about lots of other diseases cause of how fetal cells are kinda special
fetal tissue is also how we come up with vaccines against diseases that you might could catch on the train
all in all fetal tissue research is a good thing for America
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 11:54 amhere is a good article what helps you understand why fetal tissue research is important for america
Fetal tissue research declining, still important
we don’t wanna take away people hopes do we
i sure don’t
you take away hope and what happens? people become hopeless
please to stand with me against hopelessness thank you
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:51 pm*people’s* hopes i mean
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 12:52 pmpeople’s can’t become people if they have been aborted.
mg (31009b) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:10 pmright and people need to think about that very carefully before they decide to have an abortion i think Mr. mg
abortion is a silly choice a lot of times cause of you should just put the kid up for adoption
how hard is that?
ok it’s hard to carry a baby to term and then put it up for adoption but you’ll probably feel better about that choice if it’s at all feasible for you, as opposed to going down the abortion road
but sometimes things aren’t that simple
i can’t decide what the right choice is for everybody they have to make their own decision
and the government most certainly shouldn’t be involved in these decisions the government’s a big fat creeper!
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 1:25 pmwine and salad
mg (31009b) — 8/2/2015 @ 2:36 pmliver, fava beans
with a nice chianti
talking parts
barbaric
yes yes and if you want to cut the PP funding have at it
i think it’s shameful how they’ve adopted harry reid’s silly “war on women” talking points
there should be consequences just for that all by itself, irrespective of what lobsterpot bimbo susan collins thinks
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 2:43 pmThe manner in which these scoundrels go about their business negates any advantages, but that is my useless opinion. money,money,money,money…
mg (31009b) — 8/2/2015 @ 2:51 pmSusan Collins could have stopped obamacare, looking back I’d say the fix was in early.
i dunno Mr. mg I’m not convinced there was really all that much money on the table
i think what’s more likely is that PP figured that getting involved in fetal tissue research was a way of developing constituencies/allies among not just the broader medical and scientific community, but also among non-profits related to diseases that stand to benefit from the resulting research (Parkinson’s disease, eye diseases, and vaccines and treatments for HIV/AIDS, to name a few is what this reuters article says)
(i used this same comment over at PW btw I’m too lazy to rephrase it like i usually do)
happyfeet (831175) — 8/2/2015 @ 3:13 pmthe money that ended up in bills wifes coffers came from these barbarians.
mg (31009b) — 8/2/2015 @ 3:53 pmsome promises, like ‘electricity prices necessarily skyrocket’ he keeps, and Orrick gave him the money in part to do so,
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/2/2015 @ 3:59 pmhttp://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/why_the_democrats_should_dump_hillary_and_nominate_trump.html
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/2/2015 @ 4:10 pmPikachu @ #64
No link achoo. Try again. I’m interested in this research (admittedly mostly so I can beat you up over it), but also to see any glimmer of humanity in the purveyors of this inhuman practice.
Give me a hope about them.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/2/2015 @ 8:09 pmThe old Joke needs to be updated:
Steve Malynn (6b1ce5) — 8/2/2015 @ 9:15 pmA good lawyer knows the law;
A great lawyer knows the judge; and
Planned Parenthood owns the judge.
sorry is here
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:45 amMilhouse wrote:
But it shouldn’t depend on public funding anymore. The law now requires that everyone have health insurance, and regulations require that all health insurance cover 100% of contraceptive costs. Thus, Planned Parenthood should be able to survive quite well on the insurance payments from their now 100% insured patients.
As for the people who work at Planned Parenthood, if some of them do lose their jobs, people of good will should all agree never to hire them, for anything, ever. We must make working for abortion “clinics” a social stigma, must have nothing at all to do with them, must not be their friends, must not behave toward them in any way more than the minimum required by law. They should be as socially ostracized as legally possible, and by that I mean the clerks and technicians and janitors just as much as the “doctors” and “nurses.”
The very serious Dana (f6a568) — 8/3/2015 @ 3:40 amyes yes yes
just like how we make doing prejudice on gay people a social stigma
not everything has to be legislated
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 4:35 amOr wearing white after Labor Day.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:35 ami agree but i feel bad about shaming people for that cause of i saw it happen once at college where people were mean to this guy
they saw him coming into the building from a window and wrote on a whiteboard about how you shouldn’t wear white after labor day
i felt so bad for him
he didn’t look like he gave even the teensiest crap though
but still that was so rude
why people gotta be like that
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:42 amHere, have a giggle. The Machete Kills Again … in Space trailer.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:03 amAnd top men McConnell scheduled the planned parenthood vote the same time as a presidential debate, winning!
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:30 amWhatever you say Dr. Mengele.
NJRob (2cbf9c) — 8/3/2015 @ 6:54 amHappy that article could have been written in 2007.
This was true back when George Bush was being beaten up by the Democrats press kit as a God botherin anti science hick, and people would tell me on AOL that Reagan would have approved killing babies to cure his Alzheimer.
Not a pinch of difference, except for the planned parenthood body count is higher.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:03 amAny response?
njrob (386744) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:51 amThat’s not the issue, anyway. The Earth won’t stop going around the sun if some old geezer goes demented and dies at age 80, but it should fall into it if we’re going to kill babies to give him a few more years.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 7:57 am@ njrob It looks like they’re losing the belly for the grift. In California, they milked the kids, kiting checks from the future, for $6 billion to “invest” in baby killing.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:17 amisn’t someone here like super close personal friends with Mr. Trejo?
happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:18 ami can see you guys are just bound and determined to put the worst gloss possible on this whole PP thing
happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:18 amI don’t know why,
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/03/wife-of-judge-blocking-pro-life-videos-is-a-proud-abortion-supporter/
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:23 amWith Senatorial privilege for the District Courts (and Court of Appeals except DC), California is not going to get any judges from either a Democrat or Republican president that Dianne or Barbara don’t like.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:41 amnk
kishnevi (91d5c6) — 8/3/2015 @ 8:43 amElizabeth Batory lives.
One thing that particularly struck me about the TRO / OSC that Judge Orrick issued on Friday was that the defendants were only given until noon on Monday to file an opposition to the PI request, with a hearing to be held at 4PM Monday (today).
Given that TROs / OSCs in federal court can go up to 14 days usually, that seems an awful lot like sandbagging the defense’s ability to put together an opposition brief and all the declarations necessary to oppose the PI request. Hopefully they can stipulate to a short extension of the TRO to let them prepare an effective opposition.
If I’m not too busy this afternoon, maybe I’ll hop on BART into SF to observe the hearing.
Alex (f15f55) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:05 amhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/stop-the-vendetta-against-planned-parenthood/2015/07/31/d9e605fc-3701-11e5-9d0f-7865a67390ee_story.html
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:08 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_71_(2004)
When I said, that article could have been written in 2007, should have been 2003.
It’s not putting the worst gloss on the PP. It’s the unvarnished truth to say murder inc. created promoted an industry that nobody wants, nobody needs, provides no useful function, that sells no product except a compromise of public morality, murders a large portion of our posterity and forces the survivors to pick up the cost of the executions, all so demented San Francisco liberals could lodge a protest vote against George Bush invading Afghanistan.
I don’t have the language to put the worst gloss on what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Wish I did.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:09 ami’m glad i’m not gonna have to help pay back the $3 billion failfornia borrowed for slutzeneggar’s stem cell boondoggle
at least not any more than i already have
happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:15 ambut all the research, that was obtained, sarc.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:20 amI’m cracking up imagining you believing that Obama only nominated district judges for Texas that Senator Cruz approved.
NJRob (2cbf9c) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:25 amresearch is great Mr. narciso but failfornia’s a rapidly-declining hyper-indebted catastrophe of fail
ikes!
those poor losers can’t afford to pay back the $3 billion, especially not on top of all the piggy pensions they have to pay
happyfeet (a037ad) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:25 amHutchison, Cruz or Cronyn (sic) could have blocked Obama appointments for the Texas District Courts and for some Fifth Circuit seats. If they didn’t, ask them why not.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:37 amFish America
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:38 amstinks so bad right from the head
this judge has no soul
Alex (f15f55) — 8/3/2015 @ 9:05 am
I’ve been on both sides of TROs although not a speech one. I had one by a third party trying to stay litigation in front of another judge, which is about as bad. My client got served at 2:00 in the afternoon. I stayed up till 4:00 a.m. drafting my answer and had it as an add-on on the judge’s 10:30 call. From that point on, the judge was just looking for a graceful way to vacate it before I walked over to the appellate court. The petitioner has the luxury of time initially, and it’s very important that you take it away from him. Make him now run to keep up with you. But you have to know what you’re doing.
nk (dbc370) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:00 amNk,
Since when does Obama, or McConnell or Reid, follow the rules of the Senate?
njrob (386744) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:07 amPapertiger,
They’re just moving their grift around. They definitely haven’t lost the stomach for it.
njrob (386744) — 8/3/2015 @ 10:08 amNK – yes, I’ve done all-nighters to oppose ex parte TROs too; once or twice I went to the 8:30 hearing on less than an hour’s sleep.
Looks like CMP got its opposition in on time; I downloaded a copy of the brief to read, but didn’t feel like shelling out the PACER fees for all the exhibits. I haven’t read it yet, and don’t have a place to host it for others to read, but if the hosts here want to post it or if someone’s got a place I can upload or send it, let me know.
Alex (f15f55) — 8/3/2015 @ 12:18 pmAlex if nowhere else you can send it to me. domaye77542(at)peoplepc(dot)com
I’ll share it around.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 12:31 pmThanks, Papertiger. The opposition argues that NAF lacks organizational standing; that NAF hasn’t shown irreparable harm; that CMP didn’t breach any contract (e.g. the NDA covered only talks and discussions that were officially part of conference, not casual conversations held between attendees); that conversations allegedly recorded weren’t “private” under § 632; that organizations can’t sue for common-law invasion of privacy; that requested injunction isn’t narrowly tailored; and that NAF hasn’t overcome presumption against validity of prior restraints. I’ll email you a copy of the brief.
Alex (f15f55) — 8/3/2015 @ 1:23 pm14. egd (b7526e) — 8/1/2015 @ 9:05 am
There are 6 rights delineated in the First Amendment.
…is not an individual right.
Except maybe when somebody’s forced to participate or is a member of a captive audience.
Sammy Finkelman (8bf66e) — 8/3/2015 @ 1:45 pmI really dislike the use of the word worship as it limits where I can exercise my religion and that’s not what the first amendment states.
Free exercise of religion is far different than freedom to worship. Free exercise means anywhere, private and public. Freedom to worship limits the location to your house or church. There is a big difference between the two.
Tanny O'Haley (c674c7) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:01 pmpapertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 12:31 pm
Papertiger, JD has my email. If you share it with JD (or our host) maybe he (or our host) will share it with some of the other commenters here?
felipe (56556d) — 8/3/2015 @ 2:15 pmFelipe, I forwarded the PDF on to Pat at his email. I don’t know JD’s address.
It’s all there. Opened correctly. SFW. If you want I’ll send it over.
Tanny, I meant worship exactly as you describe exercise of religion.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 8/3/2015 @ 4:25 pmKirk voted against cutting funds to plannefcparenthood.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:09 pmand yet even still the spice flows
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:29 pmHow else do you get first stagenguild navigators.
I finished the first book of the expanse and a third through the second.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:41 pmi finished book two on train home today
very impressed
those guys don’t hit too many false notes
what struck me though about book 2
and it got me to thinking a lil
the bad guys – how the mars chick figures out how you attack them – it’s absolutely 100% exactly like a video game
i wondered if that was on purpose or if games have just changed how we think about bad guys
there’s no real point in doing it on purpose that i can see
i wonder if I’m missing some terribly clever or not so clever allusion
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:47 pmWell the coauthor is George Martin (of game of thrones) assistant.
narciso (ee1f88) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:52 pmplural
it’s two guys what share a name
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:53 pmNTTAWWT
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:54 pmoh i see what you mean nevermind
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:54 pmi got confuzzled cause both guys are proteges of Mr. Martin
happyfeet (831175) — 8/3/2015 @ 5:55 pmNot a lot of times. Very few times, actually. And these people are not calling PP and ordering babies with a particular deformity that they are studying; they want normal baby parts.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:46 pmYes, but they’re not going to go work for people of good will, are they? They’ll go to work for other murderers.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:48 pmThis x 100.
Milhouse (a04cc3) — 8/3/2015 @ 11:49 pm