Big Media Distorts Comments of Zimmerman Juror
William Saletan has an excellent piece noting how the statements of the juror who initially voted for murder in the Zimmerman case were subtly manipulated to make them seem more . . . black and white than they really were. Here’s one example of many:
Nightline shows ABC interviewer Robin Roberts asking Maddy: “Some people have said, ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder. How do you respond to those people who say that?’ ” Maddy appears to reply promptly and confidently: “George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.” But that’s not quite how the exchange happened. In the unedited video, Roberts’ question is longer, with words that have been trimmed from the Nightline version, and Maddy pauses twice, for several seconds, as she struggles to answer it. “… George Zimmerman … That’s—George Zimmerman got away with murder. But you can’t get away from God.”
You have to watch her, not just read her words, to pick up her meaning. As she struggles to answer, she looks as though she’s trying to reconcile the sentiment that’s been quoted to her—that Zimmerman “got away with murder”—with her own perspective. So she repeats the quote and adds words of her own, to convey what she thinks: that there’s a justice higher than the law, which Zimmerman will have to face. She thinks he’s morally culpable, not legally guilty.
Saletan has many other points about the distorted editing. You have to read his whole piece. But he’s right about this one. As Satetan says, comparing an edited version to the full version excises a moment where she hesitates and seems to be starting to repeat the interviewer’s statement, making it clearer that her ultimate statement took the following form: restatement of interviewer’s premise plus my response.
Good catch by Saletan and a good piece. Thanks to narciso for the link.
Big Media will lie to you every time if it makes their story simpler and removes the pesky shades of gray.
Every time.
What? The media selectively editing video? Why that hasn’t happened since, well, since YESTERDAY!!!
WarEagle82 (2b7355) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:38 amDisney Co people are so trashy like this I just don’t know what to tell you
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:43 amShocking!! Next we’ll find out that version of the 911 call that was played endlessly following the shooting was also editted to make GZ appear to be a racist. What? Oh yeah, that’s what they did. Well give the MFM credit, when they hit upon an effective method of distorting the truth, they stick with it. One must wonder why they didn’t erase the original interview.
The only question in my mind is who in the world listens to these liars? And how long will it take for this audience to finally figure it out? Or maybe their listeners are Lincoln’s demographic segment that can be fooled all of the time. If so, it’s hard to imagine that their “trust funds” will be able to support them in their foolishness much longer.
bobathome (8ce4a4) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:52 amClearly, ABC hired the people who got fired at NBC for blatantly mis-editing the Zimmerman/Dispatcher conversation….
Wait.
No, that can’t be.
No one got fired for that.
**NEVER MIND**
Ich Bin Ubn Gruber, Official Psychic Channeller for Scott Eric Kaufman (a2f645) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:01 amIn fact, they put the reporter Gutman, back on the case,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:05 amAnd liberals have the nerve to go on and on (and on and on and on) about “Faux” News.
At any rate, stories such as this makes one wonder how many times throughout modern history the MSM has done this type of thing and gotten away with it.
Whitey Nisson (116805) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:12 amShe is someone clearly impressed with the media and feels the pressure to run with the herd.
But what she did was follow the law, which is getting harder and harder for people of her political views, i.e. Obama voters.
AZ Bob (c11d35) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:13 amI believe that people were fired at NBC/Local stations for three different Zimmerman tape edits that did the same thing.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-philbin/2013/06/20/shameless-nbc-never-tells-viewers-it-smeared-zimmerman-doctored-aud
BfC (a1cf00) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:21 amOne was rehired in Seattle, because they don’t give a farthing,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:23 amWe do appear to be heading down the road towards the UK where self defense is pretty much illegal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587
This was from a couple years ago–Don’t know how the laws are changing or how the courts interpret them.
BfC (a1cf00) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:26 amIt is part and parcel of the panic that was sowed in the aftermath of Dunblane,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:28 amGood catch, narciso. These are evil times.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:32 am“9.One was rehired in Seattle, because they don’t give a farthing,”
Actually, they finally began to understand the potential for such editting, and the farthing was paid as a tutor’s stipend. Between Baghdad Jim’s illegal taping and this new knowledge we can expect some wonderous things to be discharged from the bowels of the Emerald City.
bobathome (8ce4a4) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:35 amI just have to keep telling myself over and over: if you heard it on the news, it’s probably a lie.
It’s sad that I have no faith at all in our official organs of information.
Pious Agnostic (20c167) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:35 amI was trying to be civil, boba, in my choice of language,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:37 amSeattle?
SteveG (794291) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:39 amWhy it is almost as if someone decided to send the dishonest editor across flyover country three time zones to get away from the local stain.
The media and Hollywood just can’t stop themselves from trying to rig public opinion: NBC to air Hillary Clinton biopic:
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/27/2013 @ 11:51 amPatterico,
Thank you for posting Saletan’s article that helps clarify the context regarding the juror who initially voted vs.
Unfortunately, this type of thing, this selective editing, is exactly what the left has been accusing Mr James O’Keefe and others on the right of doing. Selectively editing to mask and further a hidden agenda.
It remains unfortunate that this juror seems to believe that Zimmerman transgressed a higher law, but be that as it may, at least the context is better explained in the article.
Kenneth Simmons (6f8eca) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:08 pmAn old problem that is getting worse. In the 1890’s, Mark Twain commented : “If you don’t read the newspapers, you will be uninformed. If you do read the newspapers, you will be misinformed.” In the 1940’s, I. F. Stone, a “progressive” New York city editor/publisher, said ; “I have complete confidence in the veracity of the stories reported in the newspapers – except for those of which I have direct personal knowledge – those I find to be horribly wrong.” Today, with very few exceptions, the entire media circus seems to be working very hard to keep us either misinformed or disinformed.
Michael M. Keohane (4352b4) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:14 pmThese are evil times.
That might have sounded a bit hell-and-brimstone to some people in the past, but I think it’s an increasingly accurate description of this era in modern history, here in the US and elsewhere. So when I hear pundits claiming conservatism/conservatives (and/or the Republican Party) of today are overly dogmatic, and then say nothing about how a person has to be quite liberal (ie, ultra-liberal) to be liberal in the context of 2013 America, I can’t help but snicker and guffaw, and realize that says a lot about the person who buys into that assumption.
When political scientist Francis Fukuyama pushed the “end of history” concept over 20 years ago — implying that the fall of the Iron Curtain probably signaled less socio-economic turmoil in the future — he was being too optimistic.
Right now, I have a nagging, lingering sense that the wheels of the car are coming off, gradually but also faster than before.
Mark (938403) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:16 pmSeattle is a wonderful place to be civil, narsico. Why they still have some nuclear free zones just a mile or two from ground zero. And with 340,000 votes cast, they can provide 200,000 vote margins for Democratic candidates that even the Seattle Times declines to support. And nearby SeaTac is considering a minimum wage of $15/hr for workers at the airport. And not to be outdone by Boston, Big Bertha is digging a state of the art tunnel beneath Seattle that will carry perhaps 30,000 cars a day at an anticipated cost of a mere $1.1B … with “hopefully” $200M raised from tolls … replacing a viaduct that carries around 120,000 cars a day with no tolls. This may be a bust transportation wise, but the investors who bought the warehouses behind the viaduct (which will be torn down) will do very nicely, thank you. Yes Seattle is a most civilized city. Why just a decade or two ago, the President of the local teachers union ran for Congress and things were going well until he was arrested for attempting to molest a boy in a Seattle Park. A catastrophe for the poor man? Not really, he landed a job at a local bank managing municipal bond issuance for the school district.
bobathome (8ce4a4) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:22 pmthis goes to show that ABC’s Robin Roberts has a sickness that runs even deeper than the cancer she’s fighting.
Colonel Haiku (bf1039) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:24 pma record of mendacity and failure is what Clinton can crow about.
Colonel Haiku (6a6222) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:43 pmsorry, wrong thread
Colonel Haiku (6a6222) — 7/27/2013 @ 12:44 pmthis goes to show that ABC’s Robin Roberts has a sickness that runs even deeper than the cancer she’s fighting
she’s a good lil propaganda slut it’s kinda disingenuous to hold modern day propaganda sluts to an anachronistic standard of “journalism”
they do the job they’re paid to do
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:30 pmIt’s the outfit that employs ‘the perky’ Kate,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:32 pmSince we’re on the subject of big media did you all see that Megyn Kelly and her husband named their new baby son Thatcher? I think that’s very cool.
elissa (980c8c) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:38 pmYou mean ingenuous.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:43 pmSomeone who is ingenuous shows a childlike innocence, trust, and openness. One of the things kindergarten teachers value. I don’t think of Megyn that way at all. She’s not artless – naive – candid – frank – simple – guileless? No nk I don’t think I mean ingenuous.
elissa (980c8c) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:51 pmelissa, sorry, I was correcting happyfeet on his use of disingenuous. ^_^
I have a long story, myself, on how my daughter got her name. All I’ll say is God bless baby Thatcher.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 1:58 pmRemember to refresh, remember to refresh ….
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:00 pmYou mean ingenious, which is not at all the same thing,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:03 pmNo, I meant Someone who is ingenuous shows a childlike innocence, trust, and openness. In reference to she’s a good lil propaganda slut it’s kinda disingenuous to hold modern day propaganda sluts to an anachronistic standard of “journalism”
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:11 pmR.I.P. J.J. Cale
Icy (133946) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:12 pmBut ABC may be ingenius in its disingenuous editing. Or just ****ing sneaky.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:12 pmIt’s not new, that they would misrepresent re Food Lion, or extreme edit, see Chelian’s ‘Emmy Award’ winning interview for Charlie Gibson,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:15 pmABC’s report was rigorously “fact checked” by Wi Tu Lo, Ho Li Fuk, Sum Ting Huang, and Bang Ding Ow.
They were looking for new career options since their options in aviation took a sudden dip…
WarEagle82 (2b7355) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:27 pmI think there is Sum Ting Wong with Sum Ting Huang.
Tanny O'Haley (ffc3bf) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:34 pmSaturday change-up… http://youtu.be/3BiC7AzlRiI
Colonel Haiku (6fcf5f) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:48 pmThat is a bummer, Icy! A lot of great tunes covered by seminal musicians.
Colonel Haiku (6fcf5f) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:50 pmSome great chillin’ music…
http://youtu.be/Q1L11Y0I5E0
Colonel Haiku (6fcf5f) — 7/27/2013 @ 2:55 pmSkynyrd’s version of “Call Me the Breeze” is a classic. RIP, JJ.
Whitey Nisson (aa99c0) — 7/27/2013 @ 3:55 pmI don’t know that Clapton did better on After Midnight.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 4:01 pmingenuous, yes
that’s what i said
happyfeet (8ce051) — 7/27/2013 @ 4:03 pmJJ had some great tunes.
mg (31009b) — 7/27/2013 @ 4:52 pmCondolences.
Big Media: just say “No!”
navyvet (02dd07) — 7/27/2013 @ 5:04 pmThat’s who Clapton covered?
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 5:43 pmYup.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 5:45 pmAl Gore’s internets say Cocaine too. I didn’t know that. I mean, you’d think, you know … it’d naturally be a Clapton song.
nk (875f57) — 7/27/2013 @ 5:48 pm‘Ride Me High’ – WP. RIP JJ.
(yes, Clapton’s ‘Cocaine’ is JJ)
Fabi (93e761) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:19 pmEric C’s another one, like Keith R., that you’d never have expected to have made it this far–almost to their 70’s. They both recently wrote pretty interesting autobiographies.
elissa (980c8c) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:25 pmI think Clapton is more relatable though, then Keith.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 6:41 pmAnother OT comment:
One of the big needs for Obamaneycare and the Affordable Housing act is to funnel money to Big Blue Cities.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/07/doomed-top-9-big-cities-that-will-soon.html
The Affordable Housing Act has only had 400K private takers 40% of whom are already back in default. Why then an $80 Billion program? Cities are seizing foreclosed properties and accessing their Federal slush fund.
A number of the cities at the link are dumping all their retirees on Medicare and dispensing with health benefits.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/27/2013 @ 7:10 pmTruth is what they can get us to believe.
htom (412a17) — 7/27/2013 @ 7:15 pmI suspected when they were running this excerpt, 24/7 there was something amiss about, and it was as with the Gibson interview,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 7:20 pmNote to anyone who may end up in Maddy’s shoes: insist on a live interview.
Ghost (996b5a) — 7/27/2013 @ 7:41 pmShe had a minder who ‘nudged, nudged’ into adopting the right attitudes.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 7:51 pmInsist on having your own camera and make your own recording of the interview.
Steve57 (a65996) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:21 pm“If you don’t read the papers, you are uniformed, if you read the papers, you are mis-informed.” Mark Twain
halfacarafe (3c20e4) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:23 pmPerry is trying to post under TruthTeller. Again.
Pathetic
JD (31274e) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:25 pmPerry,
I understand being addicted to Patterico.com but Patterico told you the terms if you want to return. It’s in your power to make that happen, but you are only hurting your chances with this kind of behavior.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:31 pmThat would assume, Steve that ‘Maddy’ was interested in the truth, even sans the dowdification, that’s by no means clear,
narciso (3fec35) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:32 pmI realize that I’ve said this before, but there is no such thing as unbiased news. There can’t be. There isn’t enough time in the day or ink in the world. All news will be filtered through the perceptions and prejudices of humans.
When you complain of a Liberal News Bias, you fall into their trap. The issue isn’t “Why is the news so biased?” the issue is “Why aren’t there more, different biases?”. And the answer is that there are too few people willing to buck the “Unbiased” fantasy and say “This is my point of view; make of it what you will!”.
Sites like this one, on the internet, are a start. Fox News should have been another, buy they fell into the trap and have to go on the defensive. They should be saying “If our POV is wrong, prove it.”, not “We report, you decide”.
C. S. P. Schofield (adb9dd) — 7/27/2013 @ 8:34 pmAlso a good idea when talking to the cops/feds.
Ghost (f47969) — 7/27/2013 @ 9:08 pmHow deep is the cesspool?
Juror B29 “Maddy” is represented by attorney David Chico, who just happened to be the prosecuting attorney when GZ faced an assault charge in 2005. And Chico was in the courtroom during the Zimmerman trial as a consultant for the Orlando Sentinel:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-20/elsentinel/eo-arranca-lunes-juicio-zimmerman-20130620_1_el-lunes-que-estar
What a coincidence that “Maddy” picks Chico to represent her. So was he checking out the jurors? Gone fishing? Or something even worse?
And now guess who’s yelling “jury tampering” …. Benjamin Crump and his crowd.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/27/juror-b29-attorney-and-abc-news-now-avoiding-truth-running-scared-from-the-discovery-of-background/
So much deceit and wickedness ….
Miranda (ada92d) — 7/27/2013 @ 9:16 pmWow, this Ted Cruz character knows his bitch slaps:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/26/Ted-Cruz-Mainstream-Media-Like-Timid-House-Trained-Republicans
That breeze you’re feeling, GOP, is ’cause your pants be at your ankles.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/27/2013 @ 9:56 pmNote to the lawyers: Do not expect the going rate as time marches on in bankruptcy court.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/07/general-obligation-bondholders-beware.html
Unless of course you cart away your path thru the garbage.
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:23 pmOh, the irony! IRS agents beg out of Obamacare
Two weeks ago, representatives of three large labor unions fired off a harsh letter to Democratic leaders in Congress, complaining that Obamacare would “shatter…our hard-earned health benefits” and create “nightmare scenarios” for their members. Today, we learn that the National Treasury Employees Union—the union that includes employees of the Internal Revenue Service—is asking its members to write letters to their Congressmen, stating that they are “very concerned” about legislative efforts requiring IRS and Treasury employees to enroll in the Obamacare exchanges.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/27/2013 @ 10:59 pmWhy the Founding Fathers had any respect for media (newspapers in their day) is beyond me.
ErisGuy (76f8a7) — 7/28/2013 @ 6:33 amGet to know your enemy:
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/does-an-interview-with-dr-john-drew-regarding-barack-obamas-past-indicate-he-is-pushing-for-social-unrest-today/#ixzz2aI2Ei4ra
Whatever happened to Chandoo? Guess he’s a bundler and has visited the WH. Lucky he’s Muslim and rich I guess, mostly rich.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up/
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/28/2013 @ 7:26 amThe M.O is the same, just on a larger scale’
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/24/in-detroit-racial-rhetoric-concealed-corruption/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/28/2013 @ 7:42 am“Why the Founding Fathers had any respect for media (newspapers in their day) is beyond me.”
They didn’t, necessarily. 18th Century newspapers were sewers of bias, and everybody who had the common sense that God gave a turnip knew it. But there were a lot of them, and EACH ONE had a different bias. And the founders had seen what happens when the State (George III in their case) is allowed to close down opinions the State doesn’t like.
The problem isn’t that The Media are biased. The problem is that one group of intellectually dishonest twits has managed to sell the idea that unbiased news is possible. Since they have no shame, they can put out their bias and all anybody can do is whine. But when somebody puts out a competing bias (Fox), the twits shout “bias”, and since lack of bias is impossible, there is some for them to point to.
C. S. P. Schofield (adb9dd) — 7/28/2013 @ 7:53 amHow true is this account;
http://twitchy.com/2013/07/28/chris-wallace-offers-hard-truth-about-middle-class-under-obama-makes-jack-lew-squirm-pic-video/
narciso (3fec35) — 7/28/2013 @ 8:04 amI don’t think any commenter caught this in my admittedly brief perusal, but what about this from the article:
Hube (4d0abc) — 7/28/2013 @ 8:59 am73. Via other featured Twitchy links am returned to a question-
Why is an overwhelming majority of the best journalistas ladies? Ingraham, Pirro, Crowley, Bruce, Attkisson, Herridge, Bila,…
Could it be superficial appearance?
gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 7/28/2013 @ 9:39 amnarciso – I go out of town for a week and I find out that President Trayvon has pivoted back to to jobs and the economy for the 347th time after wasting six months on gun control that nobody cared about, an immigration bill that looks like it is dead in the water, giving lip service to his environmental loony supporters on the religion of global warming, pledging to bypass Congress to implement what he wants to get done, plus that Anthony Weiner has continued to exercise his poor dick tweet management skills.
Plus I was I excited to learn from President Trayvon that THE ECONOMY IS BACK and that Congress has just been distracting itself with phony scandals rather the agenda that Obama has been pushing that does not register on the radar screen of most Americans.
Who knew? Who knew?
I am certainly glad I did not miss anything noteworthy being out of touch for a week.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:17 amThat’s a very Pythonesque summary, how was your trip;
narciso (3fec35) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:19 amI forgot the continuation of the mostly peaceful pro-Trayvon protests and spontaneous beatings, muggings, looting and shootings by people of unidentified ethnic extraction.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:19 amA week in the North woods with no electricity, teaching outdoor skills to ute members of a brown-shirted national para-military organization. Returned with same number of utes with which we departed and no significant injuries so trip was a success.
Chicks really dig the pit toilets.
See what I did there?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:26 amO/T, but another topic Big Media can be depended upon to distort:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/isle_take_that_welfare_scam_VBsTspIxia2GA9o2oS505L
I think anyone who ever spent any amount of time in the third world knew this was going to be the case. I believe Dustin raised the black market issue.
Food aid to the third world in general is a bad idea. All the first world citizens are doing is handing over to warlords and petty tyrants a valuable commodity to distribute. Thus increasing their power.
But the first worlders feel really, really good about themselves for sending the food. It’s apparent that whatever happens to it after it’s shipped isn’t important.
Also, I’d like to have whatever you’re smoking if you think the US-based participant isn’t making money of this scheme. It’s amusing that people think the food stamp recipients are scrimping to get by on half their allotment and paying out of pocket to buy barrels and ship them off to the Caribbean.
As if it isn’t more of a moneymaker to do that than just use the benefits themselves.
Not every place takes EBT cards. For the rest you need cash, and there’s more than one way to turn food stamps into cash. But there’s nothing noble about any of them.
Steve57 (a65996) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:27 amYou’ll be conforted to know this;
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/07/obama-says-racial-tensions-wont-get.html
narciso (3fec35) — 7/28/2013 @ 10:29 amHas the juror said that the televised version misrepresented her views?
tifosa (df2dc2) — 7/28/2013 @ 11:57 amWasn’t it JD who commented something to the effect that ‘everybody edits?’
Tiffy approves of editing that advances her narrative.
JD (b63a52) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:01 pmtifosa–I think it’s fair to say that apparently different people have different views on how much they are willing to have their statements edited and how far from the original intent they are comfortable with, or are willing to tolerate. It’s also fair to say that different media units have quite varying standards on what they are willing to present to the public as a “quote”. Never the less it’s a problem for people like me who prefer honest reporting.
elissa (980c8c) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:05 pmHonest reporting is an oxymoron.
JD (b63a52) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:07 pmobama-says-racial-tensions-wont-get.html
It’s very telling that, based on recent polls, a larger portion of both white and black America now deem that black people are more racist than whites. That’s quite a sea change from years ago.
In my case, I once was bothered that communities throughout the US still remained quite segregated, particularly along white or black lines, decades after the era of civil rights and greater liberalization. But in that instance, I do admit to reacting in a more idealistic and naive way than “limousine liberals” have. So controversies like Zimmerman/Martin have been a cold, hard splash of water in my face.
Mark (938403) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:25 pmelissa, I’m interested to know where you find “honest reporting.”
tifosa (df2dc2) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:40 pmI don’t find it any one place, tifosa. Certainly not on the 30 minute news shows or the cable gabblers. That’s why I go to a variety of sites both left and right. That’s why I read a lot of books with footnotes. That’s why I look for the source material and original video wherever possible. Real Clear Politics is a place that usually posts links to articles with different/conflicting points of view on any subject–not just politics. I find that useful in understanding what is going on and what the current narratives are.
What are your primary sources of info, tifosa?
elissa (980c8c) — 7/28/2013 @ 12:51 pmWhen I’m home, and into a newsy thang, I do listen to/watch some of the 30-60 minute gabby stuff, read news and editorial pages local to the issue, Sabato’s Crystal Ball, Huffpo, NYT, RCP FOR the politics, and some wingy sites, like TheBlaze, Wagist…
tifosa (df2dc2) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:07 pmtiffy – Where do you think you find honest reporting?
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:17 pmWe have Mozilla’s WOT, and sites like WND often contain hot links.
tifosa (17e00b) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:17 pmMoJo, Addicting Info, RollingStone…
Yahoo’s Geneo has an interesting selection, Addicting Info, snorfle.
narciso (3fec35) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:19 pmNewYorkTimes 538 and Sam Wang were go-to’s during the election, for example. (Sabato too)
tifosa (17e00b) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:21 pmMost of my twitter follows are left-leaning
tifosa (17e00b) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:25 pmnot all
tifosa (17e00b) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:25 pmAnd like you elissa, I like Cenk 🙂
tifosa (17e00b) — 7/28/2013 @ 1:27 pm“But you can’t get away from God.”
One would think that would also apply to Trayvon Martin, along with the legions of his apologists.
Tom (bea0bc) — 7/28/2013 @ 2:48 pmMuseum Welcomes Wikipedia Editors – Sat July 27, 2013 page C1, continued on page C4
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 7/30/2013 @ 12:51 pmNo
Yoda (ee1de0) — 7/30/2013 @ 7:13 pmNo, what?
Sammy Finkelman (da8ac2) — 7/31/2013 @ 6:09 amTrayvon Martin’s hoodie (for now in the possession of the Department of Justice) will probably be going to the Smithsonian Institution, in a new wing to be called the National Museum of African American History and Culture, along with the handcuffs used to arrest Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and the guard tower from Louisiana’s Angola State Penitentiary.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-trayvon-martin-hoodie-smithsonian-20130801,0,7521141.story
Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 8/1/2013 @ 4:44 pm