Trump Threatens Super-PAC Against Ted Cruz, Doubles Down on Cruz’s Dad
So, Donald Trump once again blamed Ted Cruz for the fact that he called Cruz’s wife ugly, once again suggested Cruz’s dad was close with Lee Harvey Oswald, and suggested that the National Enquirer deserves a Pulitzer Prize.
Then, he formed a plan to create a Super-PAC to defeat Ted Cruz in the future.
Donald Trump plans to create and fund super-PACs specifically aimed at ending the political careers of Ted Cruz and John Kasich should either run for office again, after both snubbed the Republican nominee during his party’s convention this week, a person familiar with Trump’s thinking told Bloomberg Politics on Friday.
The plan would involve Trump investing millions of his own money –perhaps $20 million or more — in one or two outside groups about six months before their respective election days if Texas Senator Cruz or Ohio Governor Kasich stand for office again. The person said Trump is willing to set up two separate super-PACs – one for Cruz and one for Kasich – and put millions into each.
The person also said that Trump would be willing to invest tens of millions more if necessary to ensure his former competitors didn’t win another race.
Trump will never actually do this, of course — a fact that keeps me from being less upset about it. But the fact that this even occurs to him, to me, means that this man is the enemy of conservatism, every bit as much as Hillary Clinton is the enemy. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Justin Amash are the sort of people who matter to me. Their opponents are the enemies of limited government and the Constitution . . . whether they put a D behind their name, or an R.
In case you’re inclined to attribute this to an anonymous source, and to tell yourself that Mr. The Donald would not actually consider such a thing . . . well, he broached the idea himself at his little press conference yesterday.
By the way, go ahead and watch as much of Trump’s performance as you can stand. If you can do it without retching, you have a stronger stomach than I.
And all the while, as he says these things, soulless Mike Pence stands up there and chuckles and shakes his head while smiling. Oh, that scamp Donald Trump! with his continued attacks on Ted Cruz’s dad! If you want to see what you look like after you sell your soul, you look like this:
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) July 22, 2016
Turns out you can still be quite presentable. Handsome and distinguished-looking, even. When you sell your soul, there is not necessarily a clear outward indication that you have sold your soul.
But you still have.
P.S. David Duke is running for U.S. Senate in Louisiana. A smattering of reaction:
What convinced this guy that Republican voters and conservative media are ready for a white supremacist message? https://t.co/cfZZuzrAkT
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) July 22, 2016
The only question is: will Republicans call him Mr. Duke?
— David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) July 22, 2016
Hey: if he’s the last vote to push the GOP into a Senate majority, you have to vote for him! Right? Right?
I wonder if Donald Trump would start a Super-PAC to defeat David Duke.
I actually don’t wonder; that was irony. But I think someone should ask him.
P.S. David Duke is running for U.S. Senate in Louisiana. A smattering of reaction:
Hey: if he’s the last vote to push the GOP into a Senate majority, you have to vote for him! Right? Right?
I wonder if Donald Trump would start a Super-PAC to defeat David Duke.
I actually don’t wonder; that was irony. But I think someone should ask him.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 11:59 amWhat? What? I don’t know David Duke. I have a bad earpiece!
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:00 pm“…that this man is the enemy of conservatism, every bit as much as Hillary Clinton is the enemy.”
As The Great White Dope has said on several occasions, it is the Republican Party, not the conservative party. The modern conservative movement: born-1964; died- 2016.
My God, I’m voting Trump.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:05 pmoh my goodness every time you do these posts it just further reduces ted and his super hawt wife to a butthurt caricature drawn by a single retweet on douchebag jack dorsey’s twitter
they really need to change the conversation they’re not in a good place
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:07 pmIf I ever had any doubt that Trump is a vicious, vindictive closet homosexual in the stamp of Roy Cohn, the last couple of days have resolved it. The old b*tch-queen would suck the bladder out of a football.
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:08 pma person familiar with Trump’s thinking told Bloomberg Politics on Friday.
Gee. That’s not much to go on. Bloomberg Politics is an adjuct of the Ready for Hillary campaign.
So if later we discover that “the person familiar with Trump’s thinking” is one of Bloomberg’s employees, who has no idea what Trump thinks (which is a 100% certainty), will you be apologizing to the Trump campaign?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:09 pmMr. Trump would not do that on a football Mr. nk
that’s just hyperbole
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:09 pmNot that the evidence was not always there. He didn’t get that duckface from sucking popsicles.
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:10 pmAt a Nazi rally, happyfeet would have given the Sieg Heil to Hitler.
It’s not as big a slam as it sounds. You’re a follower. A sheep. It’s OK. Most people are.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:10 pmHow many people at those rallies refused to give the salute? The “be this guy” is compelling because the one guy is the only one not saluting.
Most people fall in line. Baaaaaaaaaaaa
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:11 pmThe plan would involve Trump investing millions of his own money – perhaps $20 million or more — in one or two outside groups about six months before their respective election days if Texas Senator Cruz or Ohio Governor Kasich stand for office again.
oh my goodness!
pls to review your own posts on Mr. Trump’s veterans donations and seriously ask yourself over a fresh-toasted bagel if you really see Mr. Trump wasting 20 million real actual spendy dollars on doing mischiefs on harvardtrash ted and an ohio burn victim
this is not a real whirl thing i firmly belieber
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:13 pmscurrilous garbage.
Where are the pictures? The subject never consulted. The only witness an anonymous mind reader.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:14 pmReview this very post and see if I believe he would actually do it. Since I say he wouldn’t, that’s kind of a hint.
The point is that he actually considers it. Which is OK with you. Because
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:14 pmi am NOT a follower i am a leader like Harriet Tubman trying to free my people from stinkypig
don’t wait for the postage stamp mister i’m right here
love me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:14 pmThat Five Letter Acronym is supporting Trump should give pause to any actual conservatives who are supporting him.
Considering that Kasich is a RINO, this shows Trump is not against Cruz over principles*. He just is angry that they refuse to prostrate themselves before him.
Just think if vindictiveness like that had control of the federal bureaucracy. You think Hillary would be worse?
*Of course, since Trump has no principles….
kishnevi (e93d54) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:15 pmReview this very post and see if I believe he would actually do it. Since I say he wouldn’t, that’s kind of a hint.
sorry i jumped the gun there
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:16 pmAnd it doesn’t matter whether you showed up to the convention or not. His attitude towards Kasich shows that Cruz would have gotten the same treatment even if he had stayed home as the loyalists contend he should have.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:17 pmBaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I have insomnia. What to do: mull on Hillary’s VP pick or count happyfeets?
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:18 pmSo now Pat is subbing as a mind reader.
What do they call a place with multiple layers of palm readers and phrenologists gather to bilk the public”
A carnival, right?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:19 pm@9 Going to the ‘Nazi’ well is sort of an act of frustration. (Although the press should rightly ask: are Trump Steaks seasoned with Adolf’s Meat Tenderizer?)
You’re a sharp tack. You surely realize that voters don’t ponder the Constitution. They read People. And TV Guide. And the National Enquirer. And walk into traffic playing games on their gadgets.
We’re deep into an era when Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained. When image over substance rules. A time effectively perfected by Mike Deaver with the help of two seasoned, experienced Hollywood actors- Ronald and Nancy Reagan. Which is why The Great White Dope has a very good chance of winning this given how poorly his competition plays on television.
You know why Ted lost? Because he came across as an unlikable pug on television. An image reinforced by his own actions and comments from Senate colleagues. You know why Ronald Reagan won? Because he didn’t.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:20 pmTrump rally?
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:20 pmwhy is samuel jackson being so yelly on poor ted?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:21 pmIt’s a matter of personal taste, obviously. I consider Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to be two of the most unlikeable people I have ever seen in my entire life. The mileage of millions of American voters with double-digits IQs apparently varies.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:23 pmIs papertiger’s real name “ted”? Didn’t know.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:24 pmYou can’t even go 24 hours without spewing pus on Heidi Cruz, can you, hatefulfeet?
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:29 pmThis story, the time it was rolled out to coincide with Hillary being forced out in front of an open mic to announce her running mate, sourced as it is, Bloomberg’s disgusting rag…
There is no way you would link this type of trash if you didn’t have a hate boehner for Trump.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:33 pmoh my goodness Mr. Beldar you doing your Adam Baldwin on harvardtrash heidi’s chris makepeace
she’s snug as bug in rug with you around
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:35 pm@24. Oh, I very much agree.
Hence America’s voters, ever hungry to be entertained, will decide which is the ‘least objectionable program.’ And we all know which one is the more ‘entertaining’ of the two.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:38 pmClick the links. TRUMP SAID THIS HIMSELF in the press conference and I provided the proof in the post.
Patterico (72bd42) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:39 pmOne weird thing about Trump-Cruz-Oswald is that Trump is apparently relying upon a version of libel law that he wants changed. Trump has said that he’s against NYT v. Sullivan and the “actual malice” standard, which are the very things that allow Trump and the Enquirer to say such ridiculous things about Cruz and Oswald. Though I perhaps should not attribute such a strategy to Trump 🙂, maybe he figures that he’s gotten screwed over by the “actual malice” standard, so he might as well play the game according to the crummy rules that are currently in force.
Andrew Hyman (b12b60) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:44 pmI’m leaning toward Trump mainly because I lived and worked in NYC in the 80s and watched him actually do things. Build buildings and such. Once you get past the gold-plated, gawdy persona and Manhattan bluster– which most of his riff is BTW– he did get things done in a town that fights over pizza and parking spaces. Back in that day, Steady Eddie Koch’s NYC was essentially run by three people: Trump, Helmsley and Steinbrenner– seasoned with a little Reggie and Billy.
Hillary, at least to me, is more Nixon than Nixon. One of him in a lifetime is enough. She lost me for good with the secret server thing. She learned nothing from the ’90s. Even the VP pick was a super secret. But it’s her persona that brings on the famed George Costanza ‘shrinkage.’ Hillary could begin to read the Constitution on television and by the time she finished the preamble in that nagging, fish-wife voice of hers, I’d be throwing up my hands shouting ‘alright, alright, I’ll take the damn trash out after the game.’ Ten minutes of that and you can almost understand why Bubba went roving.
My God, I’m voting Trump.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 12:56 pmnonono Mr. DCSA
after 8 years of brutal food stamp lawlessness and rape
the one thing we cannot abide is Mr. Trump
he’s not the right sort he didn’t even go to Harvard
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:03 pmo i forgotted a C
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:04 pm@33. However, Wharton is nothing to sneer at.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:06 pmThere, fixed that for you, DCSCA (#32).
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:07 pmthe linker linker ceo went to wharton
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:07 pmbeldar if you keep making that face it’s gonna get stuck that way
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:09 pm@30– Patrick, surely with your Texas heritage, you have an ear to dissemble and decipher Manhattan bluster.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:09 pm@#36. See #21– middle and end. Then lick your wounds. Next time, find a telegenic Texan.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:14 pmStreet FightingRight Thinking ManEv’rywhere I read the words of hateful, mocking screeds, boy
Cause summer’s here and the time is right for sowing seeds of hate, boy
But what can a good man do
‘cept to make him one last stand
’cause to grease the skids for Clinton
Ain’t no good for a right thinking man
No
Hey! Think the time is right there ain’t no substitution
Throwin’ hissy fits and sittin’ home is really no solution
Well, then what can a good man do
‘cept to throw down and lend a hand
‘Cause four years of these assclowns
Just ain’t no good for a right thinking man
No
Hey! Breaks the law and smiles and cackles
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:15 pmWe’ll shout and scream, it’s not a dream, we’ll see that b*tch in shackles
Well, what can a good man do
‘cept to throw down and lend a hand
Cause to crown a crooked creep
Just ain’t no plan to a right thinking man
@22- Walmart.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:23 pmPatrick, the more you try to explain things to the spambot, the more you play into George Miller‘s plans.
CayleyGraph (353727) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:24 pmthat’s so not even
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:28 pmThere’s no way David Duke would be able to win in Louisiana.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 1:45 pmhillary is good she’ll make energy more expensive and make the filthmerican people even more filthy to where they’re even more poor and slovenly than they are now (and lazy)
this way after hillary we can do more hillary
the herpes all up her potentially historic vagina (thanks bill) is just a bonus
how is this even a thought problem
let’s do the hillary all up in it!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:00 pmActually, this is why so many Republicans like Donald Trump: he will fight back against anyone he believes has hit him. That Mr Trump isn’t a conservative doesn’t matter in the slightest: conservatives would rather have a narcissist who will fight rather than a conservative who will not.
The coldly realistic Dana (1b79fa) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:01 pmall up in it!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:08 pmwhy does stinkypig keep dressing like she’s douchebag jack dorsey’s long lost but much douche-loved twitterbird
if hoochie ain’t careful a robin’s gonna land on her wig and try and hatch her chubby herpetic butt
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:14 pmWouldn’t it be more accurate to say “voters would rather have a narcissist who will fight rather than a conservative who will not”? Conservatives don’t want to vote for someone who will fight against conservatives.
CayleyGraph (353727) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:24 pm95% of conservatives are currently in a crouch position on the look-out for bathroom trannies at their local tranny target
the other 5% are experimenting with fabulous new bacon jam recipes
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:26 pmFinally the Republicans have nominated somebody with a spine… and the so-called conservatives go and misplace their collective cojones.
Boris (bc52ec) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:29 pmIf they’re the only two options then yes. But Republicans had a choice and I believe at least Walker, Fiorina and Cruz are fighters too and they are conservatives. Sadly, I don’t think there are that many conservatives any longer. At least not enough to guide the direction of the party. Frankly, if there are a lot of conservatives somebody has to explain why we keep losing every social battle from healthcare, to abortion funding to trans rest rooms.
Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:30 pm50. People can tell if you are crouching. The right way to run bathroom surveillance is in the 80s films Witness and Lean on Me.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:33 pmWalker was forced to swallow amnesty by his donor bosses and his campaign died shortly afterwards. Florida was as establishment as they come, and in a previous life sang the praises of both Hillary and Islam. Cruz came off as an unlikable scold who approached a presidential campaign as if it were a Harvard debate.
Boris (bc52ec) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:35 pmcarly fetalroehha is a joke was a joke will always be a joke joke joke
ok
carly fetalroehha, matt damen, and mark ruffalo walk into a bar
suddenly someone starts doing frackings (cause they need affordable energies)
matt damen says I abjure these frackings!
mark ruffalo also says I abjure these frackings as he pelts his sickened aids-ridden lover with groceries (from a union grocery store for example kroger)
carly looks at them both disdainfully and says
but look how it wriggles!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:39 pmRev.
Because most conservatives are focused on their daily responsibilities and just hear so much noise around them and ignore it,
meanwhile, the leftists like Soros actually pay people to go to protests and flood the internet with garbage,
and those of us who pay attention and see what is on the horizon are thought to be the crazies.
I mean really, a few years ago I was saying that Jane was going to need to accept Joe saying he is Jill in the school locker room,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:43 pmno reaction,
now it’s, o well, what can you do…
One weird thing about Trump-Cruz-Oswald is that Trump is apparently relying upon a version of libel law that he wants changed.
I’m pretty sure that a libel suit by Cruz’ dad, alleging “actual malice”, not to mention not being a generally recognized public figure, would at least go to trial.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:45 pmWalker was forced to swallow amnesty by his donor bosses and his campaign died shortly afterwards.
Trump has already accepted amnesty, and will allow some illegals to become citizens in the future.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:46 pmThere’s no way David Duke would be able to win in Louisiana.
Not even if the Trumpster goes down to campaign for him?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:47 pmCruz’s desperado move to name Fiorina as his running mate when he hadn’t even won the nomination, the stress-induced meltdown on the morning of the Indiana primary, the passive-aggressive smarmy non-endorsement… all cringe-inducing.
Boris (bc52ec) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:49 pmPeople think that existence is a neutral playing field,
and you can stand on the sidelines and do nothing if you want,
like a quiddich match when Voldemort is a distant memory,
but really the minions of Alinsky’s patron spirit do not sleep or sit on the sidelines,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:50 pmlike when only a few are training for battle in the room of requirement
and those who are supposed to be in charge are occupied with petty jealousies.
Fresh meat for the lions or the jackals.
Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All
JoeH (eb63b1) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:55 pmI didn’t realize he was going after Kasich as well for simply not showing up.
Fitting, though, as Kasich’s persistence helped pave the way for Trump.
I guess Trump is taking lessons from Jarrett on payback.
Maybe instead of the libertarian or Constitutional party we should all write in Cruz and show Trump and the RNC how many people they willfully chased away,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 2:56 pmand add Kasich as VP while we are at it.
Thanks for the link, JoeH,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:04 pmthe expected post-nomination press assault has begun.
ok shut all you face or I’m a do super-pac on you
oh don’t even
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:22 pmok i’m canceling dinner for so I can do super-pac up ur butt
oh yes
this is serious
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:24 pmoh pooper dooper
wuz relly looking fo-werd on them brussel prowts
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:29 pmhttps://plus.google.com/+GwenPatton/posts/6cjaj5on6hr
SPQR (0cce45) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:33 pmWhere can I downvote 65-67?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:40 pmluv that one
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:43 pmExcellent link, JoeH. That’s the Trump we’ve seen for the past year.
DRJ (15874d) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:50 pmomg i catch more flies with leftover pancakes and sometimes french toast
and i don’t even like flies
#notflyfan
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:52 pm(The System of)
Dr. Tarr and Professor FetherHillary and Leprechuan TimKaineJust when you thought it couldn’t get better
Just when you thought it couldn’t get
Just when you thought it couldn’t get better
Just when you thought it couldn’t get
At the far end of your tether
And can’t get your sh*t together
So you sleep tight or however
And the night goes on forever
Then the calmness turns to light rain
You’re in need of Hillary and Leprechaun TimKaine
But they don’t seem bright and breezy
‘Cause the speeches are dumb and cheesy
Goin’ forward in teh prog way
Like you’re wakin’ up to a new day
Not teh wisest they’re both insane
Take a walk from Hillary and Leprechaun TimKaine
Fly teh flag of the rainbow
Talk like they snortin’ strong blow
Laugh at life like a sideshow
Take what you need to make them sound better
Satisfaction though you’re in pain
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:59 pmGuaranteed by Hillary and Leprechaun TimKaine
I’m very confused. Why hasn’t Trey Gowdy been named president-for-life by simple acclamation?
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:59 pmThe problem and the solution:
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:59 pmhttp://m.columbiatribune.com/opinion/seven-political-lessons-from-c-s-lewis/article_76f4f12e-eed8-5a42-aa08-35666e44a7c2.html
Teh Colonel Haiku Project
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:03 pmA rather astute woman I know said something interesting about this whole campaign round: she said, I (know but) don’t care what Rand Paul thinks about anything, he will never be president because he has curly hair. And no matter what Ted Cruz says or thinks, he will never be president because he has a face that just makes you want to punch him. I think she was right.
Donald Trump also has a face that makes you want to punch him, but for a different reason, but the key thing is he also has a face that lets you know he’ll punch you back.
We’re out of multiple options here, people. There’s two. Do you want Hitlery and civil war, or a somewhat questionable guy who’s nevertheless shown in the past, and rather impressively for that matter, that he knows how to deliver the goods?
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:05 pmTrey Gowdy is so good except he did benghazi all up his career like a stooper-pooper
(pls don’t tell his mom she doesn’t know)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:09 pmGowdy is 2/3rds of the way toward Linds-ification. Somebody but Joe Wilson a ticket to Philly for Thursday night.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:20 pmhunson abedeer,
They won’t come out and say it, but they’d rather have Hillary.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:24 pmBut it’s not just a choice between Trump and Hillary occupying the Oval Office.
It’s also a choice between Loretta Lynch or Chris Christie as AG. And it’s also a choice between Sandy Berger or John Bolton as NSA.
It’s also a choice between the douchebag who’s running the VA right now, VS having someone like LT GEN Michael Flynn.
Walker was bought by the dairy processing lobby long before this campaign’s set of donors. That’s one topic his cowboy-hatted friend who happens to be black doesn’t do much grandstanding about either.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:25 pmmitt romney would know what to do
anyone has number?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:27 pmFlynn needs to be in war sphere. Scott Brown might actually be good at VA given his officer experience and also as an attorney who handled estate and financial planning for base personnel. Could come in handy as veterans will be having more choices and alternatives to weigh.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:28 pmGowdy interests me on a performance level (I also think he’s smart as paint, but that’s a matter for another day) because he tends to wear lavender or pink-ish neckties. Also not quite properly knotted. I don’t think he’s signaling, I think he’s trying to offset his intensely alpha, bulldog, hyper-intelligent manner. I wouldn’t claim to know for sure, but I find it fascinating.
WHY ISNT THIS MAN DICTATOR?! Gowdy/Putin 2016.
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:33 pmGowdy – Putin 2016.
Nuff said.
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:37 pmWhere does Justin Trudeau’s face fall on the punchability scale, “hunson”?
Leviticus (0922b9) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:38 pmIf his name is Christophe, is he a Quebecois? Might hold back on JustTru, who actually is a boxer.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:46 pmThe topic put forth by Patterico is yet another example demonstrating Trump’s lack of character, a short fall so great that anyone suggesting he would make a good, or even mediocre, President is delusional.
Looking over 83 responses, I see very little that addresses the issues that our host raised. For example, on Trump’s claim that Cruz’s father was implicated in some aspect of the Kennedy assassination, has a Trump supporter provided links or references to documents that would put Cruz’s father in the vicinity on the day in question? What has Cruz’s father said about the allegation? How many swarthy 30-somethings would pass the N. E. photo experts identification? There are substantive things to be discussed, but we get scat. Literally.
The only substantive responses to be found in the current discussion are those that refute Trumpeteer charges.
This is not progress.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:52 pm“Where does Justin Trudeau’s face fall on the punchability scale, “hunson”?”
Pretty much right behind Bill Maher’s. Well I guess he’s sort of in a tie with Jon Stewart and John Oliver, tu pense? Guess he’ll have to wait in line, just like any other schmuck. (Et oui, on peut les enfants tutoyer, goofball.)
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:54 pmJustin Trudeau lol
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:56 pm“For example, on Trump’s claim that Cruz’s father was implicated in some aspect of the Kennedy assassination”
You have to keep in mind, as the old joke goes, politics is just showbiz for ugly people.
Trump is engaging in a manner of showbiz for ugly people, (Clausewitz and Sun Tzu would have phrased it slightly differently), and he’s not doing all that badly. He neither knows nor cares what Cruz’s father had to do with anything.
FORTUNE: Don’t consider running for president.
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:01 pm#87 Bob Stewart,
What is there to defend?
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:06 pmIs it your belief that everyone who intends to vote for Trump over Hillary is by default obligated to defend everything he’s ever done or said?
We’re choosing between two very flawed Presidential candidates. One of them gets to rule the world. I’d rather have Trump than Hillary.
But that doesn’t mean I want Trump to be my next-door neighbor or the best man at my wedding.
stay on target, you have the attention span of a ferret on double expresso,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_XAKvTufw8&feature=youtu.be
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:06 pmTrump’s the real deal.
Nice.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:12 pm@ Realistic Dana, who wrote (#46):
You’re confusing “fighting” with “talking.”
Trump’s full of big talk about what he’ll do. He never has done any of it before. It’s all talk.
He talks a lot, that’s true. He talks even more than Hillary.
Have you listened to him, though? It’s not consistent. It’s not rational. It’s not very effective in persuading people to vote for him who’re not already ready to do that.
If you are, and you think he’s a “fighter,” then I would at least hope that you acknowledge you’re betting on someone who’s yet to do anything to ever actually advance any conservative cause, and indeed whose whole life history as a crony capitalist is an affront to conservatism, but that you’ve decided to trust him anyway.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:17 pmDon’t kid yourself, we have been burning through our inheritance at a furious rate, and it won’t be long before our creditors call in the debt.
Do you really think “Quantitative Easing” is based on anything more than a convenient correlation in some carefully selected economic data? Do you think “Quantitative Easing” has been a success? Do you think James Taylor is the answer to ISIS? Do you think gasohol subsidies are the key to our future? Can we succeed as a country if we only fail at 90% of the obligations normally placed on a government, or does it have to be every single thing?
Our complacency is nothing more than a spoiled child’s view of the world. And you think we “rule the world”. What a preposterous joke.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:24 pmI’d also point out that his deliberately picking a fight with Cruz, not Hillary, is now the top national memory of his nominating convention — followed by Mrs. Trump’s plagiarism of Michelle Obama, someone whom she’s “always admired” and hence decided to steal banal prose from.
You applaud this “fighting,” Realistic Dana?
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:24 pma crude pander, that something like mcawful’s punt would have enable,
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/23/tim-kaine-addresses-crowd-in-spanish-promises-amnesty-plan-in-the-first-100-days-in-office/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:32 pmMD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 3:59 pm
Thanks for the link. It’s nice to have something substantive to think about.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:34 pm“I would at least hope that you acknowledge you’re betting on someone who’s yet to do anything to ever actually advance any conservative cause, and indeed whose whole life history as a crony capitalist is an affront to conservatism, but that you’ve decided to trust him anyway.”
Beldar (great ref, btw), with all due respect, I don’t think you’re understanding the basic problem here. Trump is not “betraying” any “conservative” “principles”, he’s trying to re-define them. He understands that what is at issue here is not principle, it’s the nation. And he knows what the nation actually is, not how it’s defined by some idiotic Emma Lazarus poem. He’s not trying to “conserve” some out-dated “respect” for the Constitution or for the concept of limited government. The Constitution has been a dead letter for generations (see Roe v. Wade), and you’ve never seen something called “limited government” in your entire lifetime. We don’t have a functional constitution, what we have is an entente, an understanding, in order to avoid something worse. Trump understands that if we don’t start looking honestly at our actual circumstances, then by the pricking of my thumbs, Something Wicked This Way Comes.
[leaves the room, turns around three times, spits and says a swearword, as a nod to superstitions about The Scottish Play.]
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:34 pmPicking Phineas Redux again, Trollope is a liberal, who nonetheless depicts a Disraeli type figure (Daubeny) who helped modernize the tories, along thatcher and churchill are really the ones who disprove John Stewart Mill’s characterization,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:47 pmstroke of a pen, isn’t it neat,
https://governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/newsarticle?articleId=16047
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 5:51 pmThanks Bob,
I saw it linked at PowerLine,
Though I am none too happy with them anymore.
Yes, Hillary Clinton will be one of the worst things that will have ever happened to our country,
on the heels of many terrible things.
Look, she corrupted the entire state department and the Republicans are able to do nothing except say, “Give us the WH along with Congress and then we will finally do something,
you just have to sell your soul first for someone who would rather pick a fight with Cruz and Kasich instead of Clinton the day after he is nominated????
Somebody has to eventually give me at least one good reason to vote for Trump
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:01 pmOther than
he’s not Clinton,
And so far he is giving more reasons not to vote for him.
and these are the people behind him,
http://www.newvirginiamajority.org/about_staff
just like texans for public justice, which you may be aware of, so snap out of it,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:01 pmHere’s the New York Magazine article referenced in the New Yorker piece that JoeH linked (#62) — and like DRJ, I thank you for that, JoeH.
I will readily concede that the New Yorker is among the most reflexively dishonest publications in the progressive media empire. But that was still a very interesting read indeed.
One more serious and friendly question for you, Realistic Dana: Do you like football?
I like football. I remember when a bunch of businessmen, including a New York real estate developer who admittedly knew nothing about football but was good at grabbing publicity, announced they were going to capitalize on America’s endless appetite for televised professional football. They’d form the “United States Football League,” the USFL. They knew they could not possibly compete against the NFL — the AFL, which the senior league bled down and then cherry-picked to absorb, had already proven that. But the USFL would play in the spring, when the NFL didn’t.
We had a team here in Houston, where I live — one of the better ones in the league, in fact. Jim Kelly, who later starred at Buffalo in the NFL, signed with the Houston Gamblers out of college. The New York real estate developer had a small piece of another team, the New Jersey Generals, but he was the one on TV shaking hands with Heisman Trophy winner Herschel Walker when the Generals signed him. The first season was ragged but sometimes quite entertaining, and crowds were growing, both in the stands and on TV. The new league seemed to have found a sweet spot. The New York developer upped his take in the Generals, buying out the former majority owner.
Throughout the second season, the Generals’ new owner militated and arm-twisted the other owners. He insisted that the league needed to move its season to the fall — to compete directly against the NFL, head to head. Other owners resisted, but the second season wasn’t going as well as the first had, and many of the owners were looking at investments that might evaporate instantly. The Generals’ owner eventually bullied the others into going along with him. At the end of the second season, he announced that he was merging the Houston and New Jersey franchises, so that Kelly and Walker could share a backfield. But the USFL folded before playing a down of the third season. Its remaining life was in a San Francisco federal court, whose jury found that the NFL did indeed violate the antitrust laws, mandating a treble damage award to the USFL of all its resulting damages. But the jury fixed the damages at $1 — adopting the NFL lawyers’ argument that the USFL’s real cause of death was the ridiculous decision to compete head to head against the NFL in the fall, given the whole original purpose of the USFL.
Why don’t I believe Donald Trump will secure our borders? [Or whatever.] Isn’t securing the border the whole premise of his campaign?
Spring football was the whole premise of the USFL. He rode that investment down to zero.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:02 pmif Melania wasn’t gonna do plagiarize on that skanky food stamp hooch i was gonna do it after work next tuesday
this worked out real good for me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:03 pmSo Tony Schwartz gets to sit next to David Brock at all the sweet parties.
Pinandpuller (0845e7) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:06 pmOkay here’s a substantive point he raised:
this man is the enemy of conservatism
No he’s the enemy of Cruz and Kasich apparently, which is too bad, but it simply doesn’t logically follow that he’s the enemy of conservatism. It’s a non sequitur. Kasich isn’t even conservative. He’s in the wing of the party that Cruz was running against. But even if he was, it wouldn’t follow that Trump is the enemy of conservatism.
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:09 pmit was a ‘barbara streisand’ move, when you follow wayne madsen down a rabbit hole, you never know where you’re going to end up, similarly wayne barrett who was coeditor with smoking gun’s
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:15 pmbill bastone, at the village voice, where he tried to tear down guiliani after he brought new york from the brink, and he was cited approvingly here,
#107
Re Kasich: Trump is said to have offered him the Veep slot according to people connected to Kasich. That would explain why he’s now against Kasich. But what would our esteemed host be saying if Kasich had accepted? Probably how terrible it is that he took somebody from the anti-conservative wing of the party, proving how anti-conservative Trump is.
So what does Trump now being against Kasich mean – is he at war with the establishment wing of the party?
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:16 pmwell consider mailman’s son address to the hispanic chamber of commerce, he played the same tune as the medici, seeing immigration, not being particular what type, as the solution to ahia’s ills, and the burden that taking medicaid dollars has imposed on the state’s long term solvency, look at john weaver, who steered maverick and deep orange huntsman, who helped the times slander the former,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:31 pmyou get some flavor here,
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kasich-cleveland-20160721-snap-story.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Ffeatures%2Freligion+%28L.A.+Times+-+Religious+News%29&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results
of course it’s the dog trainer, but you’re not really that far apart are you now,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:42 pmIt’s the orange-skinned poof’s idea of a “pivot to the center”, I think. Beat up on the more conservative wing of your party. With Mike Pence to provide him cover.
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:44 pmthis is one ounce of crazy, from tommy boy maduro’s own wurlitzer,
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Isabel-Allende-Ready-to-Lead-Chile-20160709-0014.html
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 6:53 pmCruz fan boys still crying?
You know Trump wanting to destroy Cruz and Kasich shows to me the right instincts but wrong priority. I hope he leaves them be since end of the day they are not the problem.
Hope he aims that gun at the Judiciary, Bureaucracy, Democrats, Hollyweird, Academia and the Media. Cut the funding from the Govt, jail the crazies with even the slightest tax issues, and strong arm the rest to self report any crimes by their friends.
If all he does is put them to ashes, tremendous 8 years.
Mount Rushmore material. We need 8 years of Authoritarianism to fix the mess created over the last 100.
Rodney King's Spirit (603237) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:00 pmIrony lost on Cruz fan boys his use of his PAC to target RINOs in Primaries. Now the sudden outrage…. Lol.
Rodney King's Spirit (603237) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:01 pmHope he aims that gun at the Judiciary, Bureaucracy, Democrats, Hollyweird, Academia and the Media. Cut the funding from the Govt, jail the crazies with even the slightest tax issues, and strong arm the rest to self report any crimes by their friends.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! In what alternate universe or dimension is this Trump you’re talking about, RKS?
“Our” Trump is butt-buddies with the Bureaucracy, Hollyweird, Academia and the Media. He paid off Clinton to promote his sister in the Judiciary. If we jailed the crazies with even the slightest tax issues, he’d get life.
Trumpkins! Mein Gott!
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:10 pmNo, not Academia, strike that. Butt-buddies with Democrats. He probably thinks Academia is a kind of nut from Hawaii.
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:12 pmTrump won’t need a super pac with this leak.
mg (31009b) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:13 pmhttp://investmentwatchblog.com/dnc-emails-will-be-the-biggest-scandal-in-a-generation/
on a publication, which has lost it’s bearings, there is still a little insight,
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/07/23/why-peter-thiel-really-supports-trump-he-expands-the-bounds-of-the-sayable/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:14 pmit’s like they don’t really care about that, it is a single minded race to crash onto the waves,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:17 pmGerald,
What it means is that Trump is a petty out of control narcissist who wants to pound one with his shoe like Krusvhev if you don’t bow down and kiss his ring.
The only thing going for Trump at this moment is that the press will hound him,
unlike Clinton, so his damage may perhaps be more limited,
but he might also make great deals with the press over judicial nominations and what not.
He is for downplaying NATO and keeping Obama’s Iran deal…
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:25 pmA lot of things are or may be true about Trump, but nothing indicates to me that he’s the enemy of conservatism.
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:41 pmThere’s some remarkable stuff there.
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:42 pmTrump’s best career move at this point would be like the end of the British version of House of Cards. He really has no upside. Given the way the base turned on McCain and Mitt after they lost, how many friends do you suppose Trump will have after he loses? Everyone who sided with him, from Priebus to Gingrich to Rush to Sessions will be retired or thinking about it. And all the folks now touting Trump will suddenly be saying they were only supporting the party — they were for Cruz all along.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:43 pmA lot of things are or may be true about Trump, but nothing indicates to me that he’s the enemy of conservatism.
Well, it IS hard to say. A man like Trump might be the enemy of everything he supports, in the sense that he tarnishes it all.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:44 pmWith Trump as a friend,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:48 pmone doesn’t need enemies…
you know the problem today, you’re not even safe on your base,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/23/attackers-who-attempted-to-kidnap-raf-serviceman-part-of-larger/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 7:51 pmSpringtime for Football would be a good musical because it would fail for sure.
Pinandpuller (928ad9) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:00 pmfrom last night’s mega thread,
http://www.trevorloudon.com/2016/07/tim-kaines-radical-beliefs-and-anti-american-ties/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:11 pmThat leak is remarkable. Probably just scratched the surface so far. If this were a scratch and sniff scenario, the stench of sulfur would overpower one.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:16 pmTime for some serious soul-searching for many of us.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:18 pmoh it is, but now it’s crimethink, one thought my cynicism would have peaked but attacking sanders because he is a jewish atheist, isn’t that their largest individual cohort,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:19 pmas the wave rises, some are in denial,
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/757025206997168128
because it’s on the populist right and the left, here and across the pond, you saw how kasich dismissed brexit, autonomy, it doesn’t compute, of course it was gove’s knifing that set back the movement for a while at least.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:26 pmof course, everything is in the eye of the beholder,
http://www.mediaite.com/online/leaked-emails-shows-dnc-chair-told-chuck-todd-negative-coverage-must-stop/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:03 pm#95 Bob Stewart,
The world is on fire and you’re giving didactic lectures about “quantitative easing.”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:07 pmSeriously, dude? (LOL)
Trump’s schadenfreude-inducing actions are certainly working with most commenters here. It’s actually quite amusing.
foas (5bd3ed) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:12 pmwell it’s not such a crazy notion, it made food and fuel more expensive over here, over in the middle east and north africa, the increase was so precipitous, it was a catalyst for the arab spring,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:13 pmnarciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 8:19 pm
Do you know who else was a Jewish atheist? Herman Kahn. Kubrick’s inspiration for Dr. Strangelove.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:18 pmYep, search’em if ya got’ em.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:20 pm#137 narciso,
The point is that Bob Stewart asked people who are voting for Trump to defend “X,” and then he went on a sugar-infused rant about “L,” “M,” “N,” “O,” and “P.”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:20 pmTalk about moving goalposts.
Jesus. (LOL)
and that was clearly a slander on their part, one might argue that in failsafe, they intended kissinger to be the model for matthau’s character, grotescher (sic) I do this from memory,
bob’s larger point, is an elaboration on herbert stein’s law, ‘what cannot continue, won’t’
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:26 pmeventually the hamster will run out of cage,
A sample of what is to be had from the Hudson Institute (founded by Herman Kahn).
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:26 pmQE is just one of many symptoms. Our elite are immersed in a fantasy world, and we will all pay for it. They believe that they are beyond all historical precedence, and the only thing that matters is their intent. And yes, the world is on fire as is obvious if you are willing to face reality. The cause is not simply stated, but the symptoms are legion.
Seriously.
Dude.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:27 pmnarciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:26 pm
Quite right. A Jew portrayed as a Nazi.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:28 pmit’s a corruption of an argument begun in the middle, like criticizing hayek and von mises, without understanding where they are coming from,
Kahn considered this theory untenable because it was crude and potentially destabilizing. He argued that New-Look theory invited nuclear attack by providing the Soviet Union with an incentive to precede any conventional localized military action somewhere in the world with a nuclear attack on U.S. bomber bases, thereby eliminating the Americans’ nuclear threat immediately and forcing the United States into the land war it sought to avoid.
the Soviet High Command (Stavka) had been through a war where they had lost 20 million, more through negligence and strategic error but still
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:32 pmthe wiki suggests that von braun, was wh0 the allusion was about, but at that time he was the kindly host of disney’s space adventure, and of course they slander von neumann,
this is who I was referring to,
Walter Matthau’s maverick character “Professor Groeteschele” in the film Fail-Safe, also released in 1964, is also based on Kahn.[citation needed] (In this film, the U.S. President tries to prevent a nuclear holocaust when a mechanical malfunction sends nuclear weapons toward Moscow.)
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:38 pmBob Stewart,
You asked people who are voting for Trump to respond to the Oswald controversy. Then you leaped into a bizarre 3AM rant about quantitative easing, in addition to some preposterous preposterousness about ruling the world.
Cool your jets, champ.
By the way, do you accept responsibility for the Manson killings? (LOL)
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:41 pmHow about the Buffalo Bills’ missed field goal in the 1991 Super Bowl?
Those topics don’t have anything to do with the subject either.
As I’ve said before, the Trumpeteers rest their case that Cruz’s father was involved with Kennedy assassination on a photograph with nothing else to collaborate it. And this is used to justify the abhorrent behavior of their candidate. And their support of this silly fop.
This is just one example. But this entire discussion is replete with baseless charges of a like nature, which doesn’t address the question posed by Patterico.
We should have better things to concern us. The world is on fire, as you pointed out, Dude.
Where’s the beef?
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:41 pmnarciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:32 pm
Yes, I know.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:38 pm
To me, for the most part, Wiki = “word on the street.” Not that I haven’t been slumming, myself.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:44 pmI think that was the cigarette smoking man, snorfle, I thought and still think he burns too much scorched earth unneccessarily,
there is something to anderson’s premise, but the gop was already moving to a new right, post keynesian foundation, to wit lord keynes would act like mcluhan in annie hall, uncomprehending what people presume in his name,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:48 pmwell I use it sparingly, I note the sources, and see what has filtered out by the borg,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:49 pm“To me, for the most part, Wiki = “word on the street.” Not that I haven’t been slumming, myself.”
Translation: I know you cut and pasted the middle graph from Wiki – without attribution.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:53 pmBut no one is paying attention, so carry on. I’m just disappointed, is all. Not that anyone else would care.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:54 pmfor example, they cite a subsequent piece where he seems to approve of the character,
Kostelanetz, Richard (1968) “One-Man Think Tank,” The New York Times, December 1, 1968, p. SM58; it’s a long profile of Kahn. The word “megadeath” appears in it only when Kostelanetz himself refers to Kahn as “the first of the great ‘megadeath intellectuals.'”
this they left out of the finished product,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:55 pmLet me apologize to you, Narciso, I was out of line. I blame only my impatience with myself. I need to chill.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:59 pmthere wasn’t a source for the writer, so it was mostly conjecture,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:00 pmapology accepted, I try to be original in my way of approaching things, the old paradigms are over, but it’s unclear what will replace them, nato was meant to keep the soviets out and the germans under control, the eu has made the latter impossible, and the social welfare programs have made the former nearly impossible, I suspect by design,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:05 pmYour point is well taken. I should have allowed for that.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:05 pmI concur with your suspicion. Yes, you are one of the more original commenters here.
felipe (d96360) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:08 pmit just strikes me, yet another overrwrought berzilius winthrop analogy is mistaken, you want original, try richard dawson’s running man villain, (were right around the time that film was set)
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:16 pm#148 Bob Stewart,
Who’s talking about Oswald?
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:31 pmAnd how does quantitative easing enter into the subject? Why not just discuss the major exports of Tahiti?
It’s Saturday night. You’ve had a couple glasses of wine. That’s cool.
Tomorrow, let’s focus on beating Hillary.
or how about just this bump on a log,
http://forward.com/opinion/israel/216567/5-questions-for-tim-kaine-on-israel/
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:35 pmwhat difference does it make,
http://www.kaine.senate.gov/press-releases/kaine-statement-on-iran-deal-vote
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:38 pmgood night all,
http://www.nysun.com/national/even-as-trump-triumphs-elites-and-the-press-fail/89661/#.V5OhpZEyAsm.facebook
narciso (732bc0) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:46 pmGreat summary!
I think it’s going to here mostly fall on deaf, or intentionally closed, ears, unfortunately. However, millions of people are getting it. This is why Trump has the nomination and may get the Presidency.
Any why that’s a good thing.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/23/2016 @ 10:48 pmA Canadian neo-Nazi tub of blubber gloating at the demise of America and the imminent devouring of its corpse by a New York snake oil salesman may impress you with his BS, Denver Guy, but that only says something about the level of intellect of Trump supporters.
nk (dbc370) — 7/23/2016 @ 11:27 pmThe constitution is great, nk, and the demise of America is bad.
The point is, Trump didn’t cause these problems with either. Someone has got to go in and fix what can be fixed. I and others personally think Trump is the man for the job. You and others disagree.
Here’s what I acknowledge: one of us is wrong. Could be me. But it also could be you.
However, it’s an important task and Hillary sure as hell isn’t going to do it. Why not suck it up, support Trump as much as you can get yourself to do it (say, showing up to cast a ballot for him), and then, if he doesn’t perform or performs badly, lean on other elected representatives to keep him in check, etc.
Also, why not hold out hope that he loves America and, whatever his faults, will try to improve things?
If Ted Cruz had won, of course I’d have problems with the guy–he wasn’t my choice–but I’d certainly support him over Hillary.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/24/2016 @ 12:37 amAnd Mike Pence is Trump’s running mate. That ain’t so bad, is it?
If for any reason Trump can’t serve out his term, including bipartisan impeachment, there is a credible alternative that is, realistically, more conservative that Trump in most things.
It’s better than Hillary/Tim Kaine.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/24/2016 @ 12:50 amAlso, the ethics of the Republican Party are such that a bipartisan impeachment if Trump deserves it is possible … that would and could never, ever happen with Hillary, and you know it! The Democrats would support her no matter how awful she was, like they did with her husband, straight party line vote.
SOME Republicans would vote to remove from office a corrupt and dangerous politician, if that’s what Trump proves to be.
That’s an important difference.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 7/24/2016 @ 12:52 amI’m not at all happy about the prospect of Hillary, and it’s a big part of my unhappiness with Trump. I don’t like being put in a lose-lose dilemma. When they did the experiment with the dogs on the electrified floor, the dogs refused to jump on either the electrified black square or electrified white square. They just sat on one or other and took the shocks. The
nk (dbc370) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:02 amtorturerspsychologists called it “learned helplessness” but I think the dogs called it “F*** you”.I’ll tell you this, though. I like your reasoning a lot more than Christoph’s.
nk (dbc370) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:04 amUm, that’s what the pardon power is. Have you got a problem with it?
Milhouse (5a188d) — 7/24/2016 @ 1:14 amCruz Supporter (102c9a) — 7/23/2016 @ 4:24 pm
Except for the fact that Sandy Berger recently died, while nobody was paying too much attention.
Loretta Lynch probably wouldn’t remain Attorney General – new presidents who have effectively won the third term of the previous president generally don’t keep on the Cabinet members of the previous president, although Taft kept on the Secretary of Agriculture, who’d been there since McKinley’s first term, in 1897, and Hoover kept on the Secretary of State as well the Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Labor, both of whom had bene there since Harding became president in 1921. George Bush the Elder kept on the Attorney General, but when Ronald Reagan appointed Richard Thornburgh in 1988, that had really been George Bush’s appointment. In a departure from usual practice, Obama kept on George W. Bush’s last Secretary of Defense.
Loretta Lynch might stay on as Attorney general if there seemed to be some trouble for HRC in getting her nominee confirmed, in which case she probably also wouldn’t be able to fill any Supreme Court vacancies.
Chris Christie has been reported by thehill.com to be in the lead for Attorney General under Trump, as well as Rudolph Giuliani for Secretary of Homeland Security (quite likely as Trump has vowed to reform the TSA, a rare very explicit campaign promise, and Giuliani conveys the impression of being capable but respectful of civil liberties – to both cut out the nonsense but also do the job – to have it be effective and not overbearing) and Ben Carson for health and Human Services.
Former Goldman Sachs executive and national finance chairman of Trump’s campaign Steve Mnuchin, as well as Rep. Jeb Hensarling, have been mentioned for Treasury, but Chris Christie, head of Trup’s transition team, will probably have a lot to say about that, as well as many other high level appointments. I don’t think it would be Bolton at NSA.
He’ll be replaced regardless, but Flynn is apparently a blowhard on the take from Russia, and there’s no particular reason Chris Christie would recommend him for the VA. Mike Flynn would probably become, if anything, Secretary of the Army, or worse, head of the CIA, or Director of National Intelligence.
Sammy Finkelman (372aad) — 7/24/2016 @ 7:06 amBobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/23/2016 @ 9:41 pm
And it’s also significant that Oswald’s activities have been well written about, and nobody has brought up the name of Rafael Cruz as knowing him; plus Cruz was anti-Castro by the time Oswald was trying to barge into the Fair Play for Cuba committee’s activities. In fact there were hardly any people still on Castro’s side.
Zero evidence, and several counter-indications.
Sammy Finkelman (372aad) — 7/24/2016 @ 7:11 amAnd what is Trump doing to beat Hillary!? He’s claiming he’ll form PACs to hound Cruz and Kasich. His actions are those of a very insecure man. He boasts he has already crushed them, and yet they remain a priority. I’d say Trump is focused for the time being on controlling the Republican Party and his focus is actively squashing those within the Party who might dissent. This is akin to the behavior of any number of dictators. They rise to a point by nominally obeying the rules, and then they see the chance to frighten the weak-hearted and so gain another step or two on the ladder. The next step (in the rise of a dictator) is the purging of the Party all opposition. This is a preposterous strategy in the United States, beyond anything LBJ could imagine in 1968, but Trump, in his ignorance, seems intent upon implementing it. The Republican Party has few foot soldiers, and very limited fund raising abilities. It is not a coherent entity. It is a bunch of two-bit fiefdoms, and most can’t even deliver yard signs for their candidates. Trump’s ignorance of this reality has been only too evident in his battles with the states using caucuses to choose their nominee. He’d have been wiser to select the Democrat Party as his target since they are more centralized, and have much greater resources due to union support. That is a target worth seizing, as has been only too evident based on the behavior of the Clinton fixers within the DNC.
BobStewartatHome (404986) — 7/24/2016 @ 10:51 amBeldar wrote:
Talking is how fighting is done in politics, at least since Messrs Burr and Hamilton had their famous disagreement. And that’s how Mr Trump trounced Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio, when they each had a spurt in the polls that gave them hope that they could catch and beat Mr Trump. When it came down to Messrs Trump and Cruz in the end, no other competitors, Mr Cruz came out second, and it wasn’t even close.
The Dana who watched the debates and other stuff. (1b79fa) — 7/24/2016 @ 4:24 pmThe Beldar who seems to think that I am a Trump supporter wrote:
Well, apparently enough of the voters did to give him the nomination!
The voters understand something that seems to disgust you: when it comes to fighting, there are no rules! You do what you have to do to win, and you expect your opponent to do whatever he has to do to win. Donald Trump has proven that he understands that, very well, and it seems to be instinctive with him.
There are no points for second place.
The Dana who is planning to vote Libertarian (1b79fa) — 7/24/2016 @ 4:30 pmTrump is such a d-bag.
Ghost Rider (a9c557) — 7/25/2016 @ 6:28 amQuote: “We need 8 years of Authoritarianism to fix the mess created over the last 100.”
There you have it – the precise, identical rationale for electing Hitler in 1933.
“Come on you guys, what are you going to do, vote for the socialist? You have to vote for Adolf, or you’re a traitor!”
Luke Stywalker (d5e24e) — 7/26/2016 @ 4:56 amTrump doesn’t understand anything that complicated. On matters of governing, he’s an ignoramus. He knows neither the Constitution nor Emma Lazarus. In fact, I’d like to see him fumble through a question about her and watch him dissemble “Nuclear Triad” style.
(Go ahead, hunson. Click the link. WATCH IT. Stop pretending this stuff happens in a vacuum.)
Like the people in 2008 snowed by Obama the “Lightworker,” you’re taking your hopes and dreams and ascribing them to a blank slate. And should he be so fortunate as to have the Presidency handed to him by the weakest Dem candidate since McGovern, you, like the Obama cultists, will discover too late what fools you’ve been.
L.N. Smithee (797d3a) — 7/26/2016 @ 5:42 am