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2/5/2011

L.A. Times: How Dare Escondido Target Illegal Aliens Who Have Done Nothing But Be Illegal Aliens . . . And, Er, Drunk Drivers and Child Molesters?

Filed under: Deport the Criminals First,Dog Trainer,General,Immigration,Morons — Patterico @ 3:56 pm

The city of Escondido in California is concentrating on deporting illegal aliens with a criminal record.

If you cover this story, you can choose to illustrate the effects by giving anecdotes concerning: a) a person who was victimized by an illegal alien criminal; b) an anecdote of a low-level offender who will be deported — poor guy!

Which do you figure the L.A. Times chooses?

If you guessed b), you win! Meaning you are not a complete moron.

It was just an inconvenient traffic stop on the way through town for Javier Barrera Saldivar. Police had spotted the broken tail light on his car, and he figured he’d get a fix-it ticket and be on his way. But federal immigration officers soon rolled up, wielding handcuffs and Barrera’s mug shot on a cellphone.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have been stationed at the Police Department of this San Diego County city since May, responding to everything from traffic stops to gang sweeps in an aggressive effort to clear the community of illegal immigrants with deportation orders or criminal records.

Barrera, 24, the records showed, was a previously deported illegal immigrant with convictions for drunk driving and possessing a false driver’s license. Instead of receiving a traffic citation and being released — which is what typically would have occurred — he was arrested and placed in deportation proceedings.

We get the typical claptrap about racial profiling and about how Latinos are “on edge.” We don’t get ANY context about why the government might actually want to Deport the Criminals First.

The story reinforces the theme: some of these people have done nothing more than be illegal immigrants. Uh, and drunk drivers. Uh, and child molesters. WHY DON’T WE GO AFTER THE “REAL” CRIMINALS??!!!1!!1

But critics contend that most detainees are people with drunk driving convictions from long ago who are hardly criminals.

. . . .

When Salvador Santoyo Juarez, 61, was pulled over last month for a having tinted windows in his car, an immigration check revealed that he had convictions for child molestation, drug transportation and drunk driving — all more than 20 years old.

To his family, the grandfather of eight was hardly a threat to the community, spending most of his days resting his injured hip in front of the television. His wife, Carmen, 54, said his deportation would tear the family apart. “There are so many bad people, and they focus on the one who does nothing,” she said. “How sad.”

Yeah, some of them are “only” illegal alien drunk drivers. Never mind that the government has the authority and duty to deport any illegal alien it comes in contact with — regardless of whether they have committed other crimes. Place that issue to one side for the moment.

And ask yourself: does this article have any stories about people killed by illegal alien drunk drivers? It’s not like those stories don’t exist. For example, the paper could tell us about any of these people who were killed by illegal alien drunk drivers:

  • Sara Cole was “lucky.” She lived, and “only” had her legs crushed.

I am, of course, just scratching the surface.

It’s like the article I wrote about this morning, which attacks Sarah Palin for “partisanship” when she talks about runaway spending. If the paper is going to savage people for trying to do something about a problem, without even reminding us why we consider the problem to be a real problem, the editors aren’t doing their job.

This paper is failing, fast. As far as I am concerned, it can’t be fast enough.

42 Responses to “L.A. Times: How Dare Escondido Target Illegal Aliens Who Have Done Nothing But Be Illegal Aliens . . . And, Er, Drunk Drivers and Child Molesters?”

  1. they are here illegally: we need to deport them all.

    there is no way you can be a good resident, let alone good citizen, of a country if your very first act is to break it’s laws.

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  2. and the LA Times can just crawl off into the bushes somewhere and quietly die.

    i despise them with a passion that is mostly beyond words. the day they go out of business will be a great one for this city, the state and the country.

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  3. Without Fox News and the internet, none of these stories would see the light of day.

    OT – The Guardian (UK) is reporting today that part of Obama’s dash to have the START treaty agreed to by Putin was a secret deal to reveal the details – down to serial numbers – of all the nuclear missiles we have sold to the UK. The Brits have held that info as state secrets so as to not give the Russians a solid sense of how many missiles they have – but Obama just unilaterally agreed to divulge the info. Wanna bet we’ll never see a word of this story in the LAt or NYT, ABC, CBS, etc.?

    in_awe (44fed5)

  4. What has to happen to bring about a change is for one of these poor helpless and put-upon illegals to murder an LA Times reporter (or sexually assault an editor’s daughter). THEN the paper will change its tune.

    Rhymes With Right (4b584a)

  5. Rhymes, no actually they won’t. Because we’ve already learned that the LA Times does not care if their own reporters are the victims of crimes, even if it is done at the behest of the very private investigator thugs that the LAT hires.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  6. This has to be some LAT writer who doubles at the Onion and sent the ridiculous satire to the wrong editor.

    Child molesting drunks drivers… we’re so sympathetic. And this is the best example they could find.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  7. Natavist!

    daleyrocks (479a30)

  8. Wow.

    I lived in Escondido for more than a decade as a pre-teen/teenager. Glad to see them making the obviously right choice on this.

    Rodney G. Graves (f12db5)

  9. #3 Wow. Here’s the Telegraph with the same story (via Powerline). If I were David Cameron, I’d at the very least recall the UK’s ambassador from Washington “for consultations”.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  10. Patterico, there is Teh Narrative at work here. It’s much more important than fact; it’s about how the publishers want the world to appear. That it doesn’t (and won’t) match reality doesn’t matter.

    What this is is pushing a “meme” or “viral” idea into people’s heads, where they will propagate to other people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

    We saw it in the 80s, with the “Reagan is stupid” meme. We see it now, with particular former governors of Alaska. And you will absolutely see it in the runup to 2012. Why, you see it here, with comments that individual candidates are “unelectable,” even given the evidence that a wide variety of people have been elected to high office. And strangely, those “unelectables” all seem to have “R”s after their names. Which is also a meme for 2012.

    In the article at hand, notice the memes being pushed: that criminals are not really criminals, and that illegals don’t commit crimes, and if they do, it is because of nativism and racism. The focus on sadness and loss, not of the victims of the criminals, and certainly never, ever, ever bringing up the actions that the country of origin of these people take toward illegal immigrants.

    Most of all, at no point does the meme allow for free choice on the part of the criminal.

    The “upper crust” have plans. And there is some organization to those plans, as in Journolist and similar organizations.

    Paranoid? Maybe. I hope I am wrong. But look at schools and colleges, and tell me that it doesn’t fit what we are seeing.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  11. Didn’t an illegal alien who wasn’t supposed to be free just rape an 8 year old somewhere? Or was it rape and murder? I remember it being terrible and doubly terrible for the incompetence that caused him to be on the street.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  12. And what’s with the fatuous “Reporting from Escondido” dateline? Why not just “Escondido”? Is the LA Times trying to impress the reader that it sent a reporter 120 miles to another part of Southern California?

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (fb9e90)

  13. I work in Escondido, btw, and the cops are enforcing all driving laws rigorously, especially those about talking and texting on cell phones.

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (fb9e90)

  14. and the LA Times can just crawl off into the bushes somewhere and quietly die.

    i despise them with a passion that is mostly beyond words. the day they go out of business will be a great one for this city, the state and the country.

    I only wish they did not have so much influence on public opinion in this state.

    They have a nasty habit of getting it wrong. They had called for the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Christian Legal Society, for example.

    Michael Ejercito (64388b)

  15. So… how did it work with all these illegals who had committed crimes “a long time ago” like the 20-year-old drunk driving conviction? Did that guy get convicted – serve a term in jail – and then get released back into illegal presence in the US? Or did he not serve any time or pay any fine, and now because his conviction is 20 years old he should be let off?

    The guy at the beginning who was pulled over was a repeat offender, having already been deported once. Somehow he must have accidentally found himself on the wrong side of the border yet again.

    It can happen to the best of people… but usually seems to happen to the worst.

    Gesundheit (aab7c6)

  16. Sometimes all you can say is “Arghh!”

    Everyone says illegal aliens are not committing crimes. However, they are breaking the law simply by driving. These people are getting pulled over for additional violations. On top of that, a lot of them have broken other laws. Seriously, that doesn’t seem very law abiding to me, nor is it something we should reward.

    Jane (9d1bb3)

  17. Don’t forget Christmas Story director Bob Clark….

    http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2010/11/remembering-bob-clark-director-of-a-christmas-story/

    I used to work in and around Escondido- occasionally with illegal aliens. From my experience, DUI is treated as a sort of whimsical non-issue that they can’t understand why the gringos get so worked up over….

    FenwayNation (516c04)

  18. I am proud to say I have hundreds Brown Skin friends and none of them are fearful of deportation.

    Arizona Bob (e8af2b)

  19. I don’t care one whit about the left’s crocodile tears over the plight of illegals. They don’t care about humans or human suffering. They only want the votes so we can all suffer equally.

    They use the disenfranchised to further their goals with dreams of dachas and Alec Baldwin as a houseguest.

    Ag80 (e03e7a)

  20. If they catch an illegal Muslim fanatic or two with this, just imagine the heart-rending bleats from the advocates of Western cultural suicide we’ll hear THEN.

    Mork (98eed5)

  21. To his family, the grandfather of eight was hardly a threat to the community, spending most of his days resting his injured hip in front of the television. His wife, Carmen, 54, said his deportation would tear the family apart. “There are so many bad people, and they focus on the one who does nothing,” she said. “How sad.”

    Hmmm, sounds like this fellow is literally doing nothing if he is “spending most of his days resting his injured hip in front of the television.” Forgive me if I assume that he does not have a job and is living off of other family members, if not the government or some other sucker charity. I am not so sure why I should shed a tear for this fellow. Did he injure his hip in a drunk driving crash, or was it while he was molesting children? Maybe it while he was running drugs. In any case, good riddance to him.

    JVW (1a2602)

  22. The end of the article is quite interesting:

    “Maybe at some point that criminal alien will say, ‘You know what, I’m going back to America, but I’m not going back to Escondido, because they have this program,’” [Police Chief] Maher said.

    It probably goes without saying that criminal aliens who sneak back into this country will find a much warmer welcome in cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco where their — uh — “contributions” to the municipality are celebrated.

    JVW (1a2602)

  23. Over 10,000 people die every year from drunk driving accidents. Yes it is doubly bad and unnecessary when an illegal is the perpetrator. Still that accounts for a tiny fraction of the total deaths.

    Posts like this are a symptom of the growing fear and hate of “the other.”

    GW Bush nailed it in his comment at SMU last week:

    “What’s interesting about our country, if you study history, is that there are some ‘isms’ that occasionally pop up. One is isolationism and its evil twin protectionism and its evil triplet nativism. So if you study the ’20s, for example, there was an American first policy that said who cares what happens in Europe?…And there was an immigration policy that I think during this period argued we had too many Jews and too many Italians; therefore we should have no immigrants. And my point is that we’ve been through this kind of period of isolationism, protectionism and nativism. I’m a little concerned that we may be going through the same period.”

    The tea klux klan lives!

    sam (88f226)

  24. I don’t hate “the other” in general, Sammy. I hate lazy bastard drunken child molesting illegal alien whiners who play for sympathy when caught and hope that chumps like you will buy into excuses about how the poor “others” are being discriminated against.

    Get that straight.

    Mork (b54c57)

  25. The race card never gets old.

    spam (e7577d)

  26. i’m not racist: i think ALL illegal aliens should be rounded up and sent home, no matter where they are from.

    redc1c4 (fb8750)

  27. I love how the liberal limp-wrists always find something by Bush to latch onto when they run can’t score a point with one of their own liars.

    Mork (b54c57)

  28. The illegal alien who has lived and worked in North Carolina for at least 13 months denied involvement when questioned by officers….. Story continues below …. If this gentleman is an illegal immigrant and he was charged with DWI why did they not deport him? ….When Melendres was arrested for the first offense in March 2006 the Mecklenburg County Sheriffs Office had not yet instituted detainee screening to determine whether prisoners were in the U.S. It is unclear whether the court was aware of his status as an illegal alien when it suspended his jail sentence last week and released him on probation…..The sheriffs new screening program identified more than 900 illegal immigrants passing through the jail between April and November last year.

    Gil B. Barry (5bbcbc)

  29. Sam,
    Why don’t you do some reading and learn what the “other” actually means.

    Keep fighting the good fight, Patrick. We all appreciate it. The LAT is truly evil propaganda.

    Patricia (3aa1fd)

  30. Here is a story for the LAT. My wife and I were hit from the rear while stopped in traffic at I-5/605 interchange two years ago. Our RV was destroyed by Peterbilt truck from Mexico carrying a load of tomatoes for Portland, OR. The CHP officer refused to cite the driver stating that the insurance companies would handle the situation. At the end of his shift he presumably made a report of the incident.

    While waiting for tow truck in the middle of the freeway I wrote down relevant information regarding DOT numbers, insurance card and business location for the truck driver. When I saw his place of business was San Ysidro on the border I became nervous about the proof of insurance card.

    I immediately called my insurance company to check out the information as the CHIP let the driver go. We scratched the chrome on his front bumper which stopped just short of kitchen inside our motorhome.

    Turns out the insurance was paid for and the computer kicked out the proof of insurance card. The insurance was then cancelled but the card was kept for the DOT weigh stations which would ask for “papeles por favor”. When presented, no followup was done to see if the card was in effect. The business name of the truck driver was changed immediately and a new place of business formed.

    We were reimbursed about half what our cost was in the RV. Letters were written to the insurance commissioner Poizner who replied with the standard boiler plate excuses and the situation was being studied “as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and the buffalo roam…long may our flag wave…” you get the picture.

    Lucky to be alive, we don’t travel in California anymore if we can help it. We gas up on the Arizona side of the border when we visit friends and relatives and gas up again in Arizona on the return trip spending little if any money in that state where I was raised.

    My insurance covers uninsured motorists. Since I pay for their insurance I am waiting for California and other sanctuary states to require that I invite them to my house for Thanksgiving or Cinco de Mayo for my role in the accident. Stranger things have been known to occur.

    vet66 (eb4cdb)

  31. ________________________________________

    Posts like this are a symptom of the growing fear and hate of “the other.”

    So sayeth the limousine liberal—and one does not have to be wealthy to be guilty of that type of phoniness and two-faced behavior:

    “Uh, I’d rather my child not attend school in THAT neighborhood!”

    “Er, I’d rather not buy a house or rent an apartment in THAT neighborhood!”

    “Um, I’d rather not casually walk around THAT neighborhood!”

    “Uh, I’d rather NOT travel to Mexico at this time!”

    “Er, um, when I threaten to move out of America — because its politicians or politics are not to my liking (ie, too conservative, too Republican) — I immediately cite relocating to Canada or Europe, NOT Mexico!”

    “My compassion, sophistication and do-gooder voting habits on election day allow me to not feel guilty about my phoniness for…10 seconds! Ta-ta!!”
    ________________________________________

    Mark (411533)

  32. The LA Times must really have been struggling to find a sympathetic illegal alien victimized by this policy if they had to include a convicted child molester.

    Joshua (ef9420)

  33. Over 10,000 people die every year from drunk driving accidents

    The people responsible for those accidents should be summarily executed, as there is no question og guilt.

    Michael Ejercito (64388b)

  34. If that list of victims is representative or anywhere near it, it seems, as usual, that the biggest victims of illegal immigrant drunk drivers (Hispanic) seems to be… other Hispanics, citizens, legal immigrants or not, that part is irrelevant.

    The people usually most hurt by illegal immigration are the poor legal immigrants or most likely descendants of immigrants of the same ethnicity, or other illegal immigrants.

    But of course the Democratic Party and Hispanic Democrat politicians in particular don’t really care about that.

    deepelemblues (a78b16)


  35. If you guessed b), you win! Meaning you are not a complete moron.

    Well, I should think not.

    I don’t live in Cali.

    Ok, I grant that that’s not a one-to-one relationship, but the evidence is quite clear — that’s the way to bet.

    IgotBupkis, President, United Anarchist Society (c9dcd8)

  36. We need to summarily deposit trafficers in Mexico. Just a steep bank and roll ‘em off.

    gary gulrud (790d43)

  37. But of course the Democratic Party and Hispanic Democrat politicians in particular don’t really care about that.

    So how exactly do they benefit by pandering to illegal aliens instead of American citizens?

    Michael Ejercito (64388b)

  38. So how exactly do they benefit by pandering to illegal aliens instead of American citizens?

    Some of them vote. Their kids vote. If they get amnesty, millions of them will vote.

    And not only that, they will be more dependent on social programs and bloated government. Some democrats look at Mexico’s inability to shake plutocrats and take the wrong lesson.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  39. Some of them vote. Their kids vote. If they get amnesty, millions of them will vote.

    And not only that, they will be more dependent on social programs and bloated government. Some democrats look at Mexico’s inability to shake plutocrats and take the wrong lesson.

    I wonder if the current social liberal hippie leadership of the Democratic Party realize that amnesty will change the voter base to such an extent that anti-abortion and anti-gay candidates would be competitive in the Democratic primaries.

    Michael Ejercito (64388b)

  40. That’s a good point, Michael, but they are populists, and I’m sure they will adapt to that to some extent.

    but I also think they plan to create a society even more dependent on the government (I’m not attempting to make a comment about Mexicans, and believe dems expect this of the poor generally, as immigrants from geographically close regions often are).

    They probably think a pro-choice democrat offering free _____ will beat a values candidate. And I’m sure there will be many hybrid socially conservative democrats. It’s not like the legislature can outlaw abortion, anyway.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  41. but I also think they plan to create a society even more dependent on the government (I’m not attempting to make a comment about Mexicans, and believe dems expect this of the poor generally, as immigrants from geographically close regions often are).

    Historically, this is how the Dems dealt with immigrant populations.

    The traditional urban power bases were built from naturalized citizens from Ireland, Italy, Poland, etc.

    They probably think a pro-choice democrat offering free _____ will beat a values candidate.

    And if the values candidate also offers free____?

    On another note, Hispanics voting in values candidates in primaries could also get much of the Republican base to join the Democrats. Remember that today, much of the Republican base consists of New Deal and Great Society types who left the Democratic Party because the Democrats were perceived as a pro-abortion, anti-family, anti-American, anti-God party. RINOs rely on their votes to win primaries. If the Democrats lose their perception as a pro-abortion, anti-family, anti-American, anti-God party, many of those voters will go back home, like a reverse prodigal son. (Should it be called the prodigal father?)

    Michael Ejercito (64388b)

  42. leticia olalia morales of 15501 pasadena ave # tustin ca 92780 submitted fake documents and paid a consul 5000.00 dollars to obtain a US tourist visa. she is now applying for citizenship.

    anonymous (cedf04)


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