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So do I. They’ll drag it out as long as possible, but it is inevitable. As is the pardon when Barry leaves the WH.

Gazzer (0efe8c) — 5/30/2013 @ 6:47 pm

I think it is a reasonable thing to say Holder should resign.

But I hope he doesn’t. As long as Obama is the president the next choice will also be as bad as possible in regards to integrity and upholding the law. I hope they all stay in office. No charges until after obama out of office.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:18 pm

Listening to Ted Cruz gives me a thrill up my leg.

Elephant Stone (bcf0e3) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:21 pm

I wonder if Marc Rich will be sending Eric Holder money for his defense lawyers.

Elephant Stone (bcf0e3) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:23 pm

Are you sure a pardon is inevitable, Gazzer? Obama’s so selfish he might not bother.

Dr. Weevil (7b0cdf) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:46 pm

I guess he’s not P.C.? Texas, and Texans rule. :o)

Kevin P. (1df29c) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:49 pm

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2530831

Kevin P. (1df29c) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:52 pm

He lied to a Judge.

(And it wasn’t about sex.)

Jcw46 (6106c6) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:56 pm

Way to go out on a limb there, Cruz.

#profilesincourage

Leviticus (2c236c) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:03 pm

There ya’ go again, Leviticus.

Do you suggest Cruz go to Holder’s office and physically escort him out of the office and put up a “Help Wanted” sign?

If there was a way, it would be nice to go sit on the sidelines and let the left sharia-loving libs and the sharia-loving lib-hating jihadists fight with each other, instead of catching those who like a free and “historically liberal” society in the middle.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/05/its-come-to-this-holder-justice.html

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:09 pm

This man must be prez. He’s phenomenal. Brilliant. Brave.

Dude (699f64) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:30 pm

What limb do you mean, Leviticus?

elissa (41c1d1) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:38 pm

Ted Cruz just demanded DEMANDED D E M A N D E D that china cut it out and play fair gosh darn it!

4 pages….

E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:45 pm

Breaking news – Ted Cruz to take podium and talk tuff, in other news Sun rises…

E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:47 pm

Marc Rich was pardoned without being charged, I think. Does that mean JEF can preemptively pardon all his cronies on the way out? Lawyers, what say you?

Gazzer (0efe8c) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:54 pm

More Breaking News – Mr.Cruz has just left the party of dolts.

mg (31009b) — 5/30/2013 @ 10:23 pm

Breaking news – Ted Cruz to take podium and talk tuff, in other news Sun rises…

Comment by E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:47 pm

And what he is saying is what I like to hear. We have too many laws on the books as it is. With the current makeup of the Senate any bill crafted by Senator Cruz would not have a chance of passing. I like that he votes no and sheds daylight on the hypocrisy of the Senate. Maybe with the light exposing their dirty dealing, they will get back to their jobs and actually create a budget and start working for this grand country.

Tanny O'Haley (f5fbfe) — 5/30/2013 @ 10:32 pm

This man must be prez.

No. Two terms in the senate, then maybe AG or Supreme Court justice.

Milhouse (3d0df0) — 5/30/2013 @ 10:44 pm

“Ted Cruz Calls for Eric Holder’s Resignation”

And EPWJ dumps all over Cruz again.

SHOCKA!!!!!!!

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/30/2013 @ 10:48 pm

Way to go out on a limb there, Cruz.

#profilesincourage

Your comment (ie sarcasm) would make more sense if you were referring to a devout liberal (acting until now like the proverbial “see no evil, hear no evil…” three monkeys) finally throwing some dung on Obama and his minions.

Mark (aa8ab9) — 5/30/2013 @ 11:21 pm

BHO’s gotta figger out how to meld the IRS and media scandals into one nice DOJ ball, and then he can cut Holder loose. It’s about maximizing the bang for the resignation buck.

Wag the Assad is next.

Ed from SFV (b331f0) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:08 am

And what he is saying is what I like to hear

Notice he’s saying – right?

Why doesn’t he stop all senate business until Holder resigns – wait – that’s actually working something he’s very unaccustomed to….

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 5/31/2013 @ 3:02 am

TED Cruz to denounce all evil in world while pounding podium with left shoe…

In other news, dog chases cat…..

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 3:04 am

Re: politico:

The lawmakers also asked Mr. Cole to say whether every Justice Department official or employee who had information on the foiled terrorist plot recused himself; whether every department official or employee interviewed by the FBI in connection with the investigation recused himself; whether Mr. Cole possessed the improperly disclosed information; and, if so, whether he was interviewed by the FBI in connection with this investigation.

narciso (3fec35) — 5/31/2013 @ 3:30 am

Could someone ask Ted if he could demand the entire Democrat delegation to the US Senate to resign?

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 3:59 am

Seantor 4 pages announces his 1,187th press conference to be held inside the large narcistic catherdral built by his shining eyed followers.

Naturally Fox News reporters were beaten in submission and dragged forcibly by the ankles to fill in the again mostly empty 600 stand press box not already filled by the small members of the Jones and Beck organization and a bakers dozen bloggers who were made to bathe beforehand.

Entering with the customary blast of hearldic horns from Handels Messiah, he was seen trailing a set of cheribic children singing reworded marxist labor songs – the son of a communist soldier – immediately denounced Stalin, acne, and most shockingly halitosis.

Beck was treated for a mild cardiac brought on by a surge in blood pressure.

the 1,188th press conference was announced for later this afternoon…

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:14 am

Oh good Allah.

JD (14ffcf) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:47 am

I forwarded EPWJ’s comments to Senator Cruz’s office for their comment. Does anybody know what “EPWJ es un pinche maricon que puede mi culo besar” means?

nk (875f57) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:05 am

Nk

Ted is the podium RIGHT NOW! Hurry or you’ll miss it!

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:23 am

Senator 4 pages is going to announce his intentions to announce his denouncement of all politicians, except himself.

Being the 398th Ivy league Lawyer to be elected to the Senate – Senator 4 pages is going to outline why his background and upbringing is different than the other 397 Ivy League lawyers.

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:26 am

Nk

Does it mean – I’m Ted Cruz and I lied about everyone to get where I am?

Just curious…

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:27 am

Meanwhile the establishment educated, the establishment raised, the establishment appointed, the establishment promoted, the establishment funded, and the establishment voted, Senator 4 pages he has denounced the establishment citing their poor judgment as the main reason.

E.PWJ (016f5f) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:30 am

28. Heh

SarahW (b0e533) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:57 am

Up is down. Black is white. EPWJ is not obsessive compulsive and dishonest.

JD (14ffcf) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:58 am

Wow, in twenty years this might make a difference!

Rob Crawford (e6f27f) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:26 am

“Behind every great fortune there is a great crime.” Obama has been the most fortunate of men by any measure. But he is not capable of a great crime, just a great number of dirty little ones. The IRS dirty tricks; the spying on reporters; Benghazi; vote fraud by the Black Panthers and ACORN, are just a few I believe. Many more will surface if the pressure is kept on his enablers. Good on you, Ted.

nk (875f57) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:38 am

The left loves Ted Cruz too, but not for the same reasons.

Kman (5576bf) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:39 am

EPWJ is not obsessive compulsive and dishonest.

I’d take his frustration with the yakkity-yak-do-nothing nature of politicians, including what he possibly perceives Cruz is all about, if he weren’t also known for being a supporter of liberals like Dede Scozzafava.

I become suspicions of anyone (ie, just about all of us—eg, Reagan going against his publicly stated convictions and secretly negotiating with hostage-taking Iran, Bush Sr’s “read my lips…,” Bush Jr’s “compassionate conservatism”) when liberal sentiments enter the picture. That’s the time when common sense (and/or honesty) is most likely to be clobbered.

Mark (aa8ab9) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:50 am

I guess that should be “I’d take his frustration at face value…”

Mark (aa8ab9) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:51 am

36. I know its just Dick Morris, but at RCP he says, Nixon’s goose was cooked when everyone realized he was obsessed, daily, hourly, with the intrigues of pursuing his enemies.

The fact that the targetting began the day after the IRS union bosso met the POTUS at the WH and the commissioner, Schulman, visited 157 times and his successor, Miller, at a similar rate is just sucn a monomania.

He’ll be hounded for the remainder of his days.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:59 am

PeeWee was totally, singularly correct that Romany would lose.

Blind squirrel, nut, once in a lifetime encounter.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:02 am

Eric Holder is Obama’s cat’s paw, and he does his master’s dirty work without reservation because the President alone wields the power of the pardon.

Holder’s got his ass is in a sling, OTOH he’s already so deeply mired in scandal and criminal corruption that he’s facing years if not decades in prison, and OTOH his only way out is more and more malfeasance at the obsessive demands of an increasingly isolated, paranoid, and desperate criminal cabal.

Holder is naked, frozen, front and center in the path of an oncoming storm too big to survive. He’s guilty as sin, he can’t quit and he can’t run. And, his only hope depends on the gratitude of an even bigger criminal who’s well known for sacrificing former accomplices when the lights come on. Holder is caught like a rat in a trap, and he did it to himself.

ropelight (f90ff6) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:02 am

I agree ropelight, but Holder likely also knows enough secrets to take down lots of people with him, perhaps not only Obama but Hillary (if she still has ambitions) and damage to Bill’s legacy.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:16 am

So do I. They’ll drag it out as long as possible, but it is inevitable. As is the pardon when Barry leaves the WH.
Comment by Gazzer (0efe8c) — 5/30/2013 @ 6:47 pm

— And a presidential pardon will have the effect of WHAT? ‘unresigning’ him?

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:24 am

As long as Obama is the president the next choice will also be as bad as possible in regards to integrity and upholding the law. I hope they all stay in office. No charges until after obama out of office.
Comment by MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:18 pm

— “Hey, look! That guy’s shredding the Constitution!”
“Let him be. The more he does it, the longer his prison term after we nail his ass to the wall! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!”

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:29 am

He lied to a Judge.
Comment by Jcw46 (6106c6) — 5/30/2013 @ 7:56 pm

— OR, he lied to Congress, which is the thing for which he is actually in trouble.

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:35 am

Marc Rich was pardoned without being charged, I think. Does that mean JEF can preemptively pardon all his cronies on the way out? Lawyers, what say you?
Comment by Gazzer (0efe8c) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:54 pm

— Marc Rich was indicted by then-U.S. Federal Prosecutor (and future mayor of New York City) Rudolph Giuliani.

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:44 am

Oh, and (of course) Marc Rich’s presidential pardon was facilitated by then-Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder.

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:58 am

Plenty of profiles in mendoucheity within this thread.

Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:59 am

==I think it is a reasonable thing to say Holder should resign. But I hope he doesn’t. As long as Obama is the president the next choice will also be as bad as possible in regards to integrity and upholding the law. I hope they all stay in office. No charges until after obama out of office.==

Can’t agree with this. It is three long years until the next election. Three loooong frightening years in which the harassment of right leaning contributors and businesses will continue apace and with vigor unless some very major players and the worker bees beneath them are removed from government “service” and publicly punished. The IRS in particular must be cleaned out now that it has been exposed as an openly political organ and a criminal enterprise headed by liars.

The dampening effect on individual Americans’ political activities caused by fear of being on the receiving end of multi-agency government retribution merely for the sin of contributing to and working for right leaning candidates and causes will continue until Holder and Lois (among others) are forced out. To them it’s just the same as tearing down the political yard signs from your yard. But now, they’re not just doing petty property damage. They’ve shown they are willing to ruin your lives and income for politics. This threat to liberty cannot be ignored all the way through the next election. Fortunately, Holder’s demeanor and attitude has not exactly set him up as a particularly sympathetic or worthy character in nearly anyone’s book unless they live in the White House.

The inevitable hinky pardons down the road should be of far less concern than pressuring Holder out of there now. In the meantime any replacements will certainly be at least a little less brazen because people (including even some in the media) are now wise to the scheme.

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 8:15 am

I see multiple opinions contrary to what I posted. very good, it was only an opinion.

My main point, which I do not know what will/would work out to be the best, is that in 2008 we elcted a president who does not respect the Constitution, who pals around with domestic terrorists/anarchists who would foment revolution, who grew up being taught that America was what was wrong with the world.

As long as Obama is president, do you really think that if Holder was forced out and the IRS cleaned out that there would be less abuse of power?
Perhaps so, but I don’t think so. I’m not sure if a replacement for Holder is better than everybody on their guard with Holder in office because of what he has already done.

In some ways I think the disagreement is not really deep in principal, but just educated guesses at what will minimize the damage. And I’m happy to disagree with this, because I’m just guessing. Some think if Holder and others are forced out, then that will be a lesson and those who replace them will be less problematic.
Could be.
I’m just saying that as long as Obama is at the top, any changes below in rank may be more cover and deception than actual change; that maybe we would be better off with people in office that even the MSM has learned to distrust.

I mean look at what we have “gained” with changes already. Is Kerry an improvement over Hillary? Is whoever (I’m blanking) better than Panetta? Is whoever is at CIA better than Petraeus?

That’s all.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/31/2013 @ 8:29 am

everyone raise their hands if senator pages actually believed his call for resignation was going to accomplish anything

EPWJ (b3df72) — 5/31/2013 @ 9:09 am

A modest proposal: In reviewing the opinions stated above, I see there are a large number of vacuous entries by one author in particular. I also see that the amount of energy that is spent by other readers responding to these remarks only makes the remaining potentially significant content harder to access. It occurred to me that it would be most helpful if there was a filter option that would allow the reader to block the entries by the bloviator. Each topic would have a list of contributors including the number of entries made on the current topic. The reader, by clicking on a contributor’s “name”, would block all entries from display on the user’s computer, and would thus have a much improved experience when on this blog. Further, this would be an option that was available only to readers with a proper subscription ($$) to Patterico. This would allow Patterico to raise money and enhance the blog based mainly on the efforts of those who desire to trash the blog. This seems like a win-win … and the offending blogger would never need to know whether he is being blocked. The free market at work!

bobathome (c0c2b5) — 5/31/2013 @ 9:24 am

==everyone raise their hands if senator pages actually believed his call for resignation was going to accomplish anything==

Whoa, Eric–Do you Erics have a caucus where you all stick together regardless? Do you want Holder to stay as AG? Is it preferable to you for some unknown reason that responsible house members and senators not publicly call for Holder’s resignation? Even if you think he is using an ineffective lectern by addressing the Holder issue to millions of people via a highly rated Fox show–and even though you hate the messenger with a passion– it seems absolutely bizarre that you are fighting the message itself.

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 9:35 am

This EPWJ person certainly has a personal vendetta against Ted Cruz.
Then again, so do most statists.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 9:39 am

bobathome-

There actually is software that can let the individual person block specific entries/posters
hopefully one of the people who know this can refresh our memory

but in the meantime, I think we should all stand back and let EPWJ and Leviticus have a Ted Cruz bashing contest

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/31/2013 @ 9:52 am

http://beta.congress.gov/member/ted-cruz/2175/?pageSize=25&pageSort=desc&

Even though Señor Jakarta’s contrived BS metric about judging a legislator by the number of pages of legislation introduced is abject BS, it appears Señor Jakarta, international investment advisor, is being quite mendoucheous in his approach to his own metric.

Cruz has introduced 4 bills since January. Tht is the extent of his honesty. He has also sponsored 21 amendments, and co-sponsored 35 bills and/or amendments.

If you use his additional douchey metric of number of pages contained in said legislation, it would be instructive to have a comparison. ObamaCare ran in excess of 2400 pages, which doesn’t count the additional 20,000+ and counting pages of regulations. By his metric, the authors of ObamaCare are 600 times better than Cruz, or 5600 times as good including regulations.

In short, EPWJ is a clown.

JD (b63a52) — 5/31/2013 @ 10:03 am

If David Dewhurst had been the GOP nominee for Senate in Texas instead of Ted Cruz, our friend EPWJ would use his access to Dewhurst in order to do some back-slapping with the oil industry in Texas.
And that would have enabled EPWJ to roll around in black gold, like James Dean in “Giant.”

Alas, Ted Cruz won, so EPWJ is reduced to merely rolling around in the mud like Howard Dean.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 10:07 am

56. SoS, J.F.K., in a quarter century in the ‘deliberative’ arm of government, named a couple of buildings and a day on the Federal calendar.

Cruz seems to be aquitting hisself well enough for promotion.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:26 am

so sen. pgs accomplished what at the podium?

EPWJ (b3df72) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:29 am

Holder can’t resign. Obama wouldn’t be able to get anyone else confirmed except someone trusted by most Republicans.

Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:36 am

==-so sen. pgs accomplished what at the podium?==

Well, arguably considerably more than he would have accomplished had he not used the microphone at all which is, for some reason, what you seem to want to deny him. This one’s a real toughie for you, eh, Eric? BTW, it’s called a bully pulpit. You are perhaps unfamiliar with this term and how it is traditionally used in political persuasion?

Also, I think you’ve hogged and dominated every Cruz thread enough for your opinion to be known.

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:43 am

A person apparently can be pardoned by a U.S. President for all past federal crimes, or crimes of a certain type, but not for future crimes.

Obama isn’t going to issue any general pardons. Even Clinton didn’t do it.

I think Marc Rich was indicted, and he was pardoned for that. Other things from the same time period were covered by the statute of limitations.

Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:44 am

elissa

Sounds like excuses…….

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:48 am

I think EPWJ is legitmately confused about the House and the Senate. He doesn’t understand that the Democrats have a strong majority in the Senate.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:55 am

“Also, I think you’ve hogged and dominated every Cruz thread enough for your opinion to be known.”

– elissa

Bully pulpit?

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:56 am

Leviticus I sincerely hope you are not trying to equate what Eric spews here with using a bully pulpit. If you are, please look up the definition. Illogical, non responsive, repetitive, personal rants on a blog that an immature 12 year old might come up with is not exactly using the bully pulpit.

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:10 pm

46. Marc Rich was pardoned without being charged, I think. Does that mean JEF can preemptively pardon all his cronies on the way out? Lawyers, what say you?
Comment by Gazzer (0efe8c) — 5/30/2013 @ 9:54 pm

– Marc Rich was indicted by then-U.S. Federal Prosecutor (and future mayor of New York City) Rudolph Giuliani.

Comment by Icy (e4801a) — 5/31/2013 @ 7:44 am

Correct. And Holder’s first attempt to do a favor for Rich was to get the NY prosecutors to drop the indictment. When he failed at that, Holder’s next move was to do an end run around DoJ regulations and procedure and let Rich’s attorneys make their case for a pardon directly to Clinton, and keeping the prosecutors out of the loop so no one could present an opposing case.

Holder’s final act was to lie to Congress during his confirmation hearings and say he was essentially “unfamiliar” with Marc Rich.

Naturally Ted Cruz is the problem here.

Steve57 (9b1cdb) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:13 pm

“Leviticus I sincerely hope you are not trying to equate what Eric spews here with using a bully pulpit.”

– elissa

Having seen what contemptible nonsense passes for educated discourse on the House and Senate floor, I find your distinction unconvincing.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:17 pm

I just thought it was funny how you lauded the bully pulpit while simultaneously scolding EPJW for hogging the floor in a political discussion.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:19 pm

“I think we should all stand back and let EPWJ and Leviticus have a Ted Cruz bashing contest.”

– MD in Philly

I made one little itty-bitty comment – so EPJW won that contest handily, and I applaud him for his efforts.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:21 pm

Steve, you neglected to mention that Mark Rich’s ex-wife raised lots of money for Bill Clinton and that she gave him a fancy new horn.

ropelight (f90ff6) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:22 pm

If it weren’t for Ted Cruz giving thrilling speeches, Eric P. Holder and Barry Obama wouldn’t be forced to trash the Constitution in order to find out which Americans are getting thrills up their legs.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:28 pm

The young New Mexican wannabe ambulance chaser has an issue with most honest, straight arrows… it’s his nature.

Colonel Haiku (a04464) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:30 pm

Colonel,

You ever seen “Singin’ in the Rain” ?
Early in the film, there’s a good gag about a place called, Coyoteville, New Mexico.

Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:36 pm

“The young New Mexican wannabe ambulance chaser has an issue with most honest, straight arrows… it’s his nature.”

– Colonel Haiku

Apparently the Colonel is unfamiliar with the age-old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:38 pm

Yeah, I could tell that you thought it was funny, Leviiticus. That’s why I responded as I did, to try to help you see why it was not,in fact, either funny or remotely comparable.

Just out of curiosity, while admittedly it was not “discourse on the… Senate floor”, is there any particular part of Cruz’s conversation with Fox host Megyn Kelly that you especially found to be contemptible nonsense?

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:39 pm

That is to say, one would think you’d lost your appetite for bullsh*t in your old age. Or maybe particular brands of bullsh*t are an acquired taste?

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:41 pm

I don understand the disagreement about the bully pulpit – Cruz has one given his media attention and scrutiny, while EPWJ is more like a heckler with Tourette’s.

JD (14ffcf) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:42 pm

“Just out of curiosity, while admittedly it was not “discourse on the… Senate floor”, is there any particular part of Cruz’s conversation with Fox host Megyn Kelly that you especially found to be contemptible nonsense?”

– elissa

Nope.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:43 pm

Don’t kid a kidder, youngster… you’re more a Hightower Texan than “just folks”…

Colonel Haiku (1810a1) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:45 pm

Maybe. But I like clearing sage and Russian olive more than I like politics, at this point – and far more than golf, to boot. The fact that clearing brush was Bush’s hobby is one of the things I like most about him.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:48 pm

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s rainin’, son. You’re a Hightower/Gore type…

Colonel Haiku (1871f4) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:53 pm

I made one little itty-bitty comment – so EPJW won that contest handily, and I applaud him for his efforts.
Comment by Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:21 pm

I know it was just one little itty-bitty comment, but I thought rather than the rest of us engage EPWJ with conflict, that perhaps life would be better if the two of you shared your mutual disdain for Mr. Cruz.
I am correct, am I not, in your shared (with EPWJ) lack of enthusiasm for Sen. Cruz (compared to the rest of us)?

Of course, it is true that many of us look for the least glimmer of hope to be enthusiastic about and have a low threshold for encouragement.

MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:53 pm

OK. 🙂 I’m truly not trying to give you a hard time, L. But I confess I am on something of a quest to understand if you come here because you want to be taken seriously as a respected intellectual contributor/challenger to the dialogue on this blog –or just as a purveyor of one liners. And I guess I’m having some trouble figuring that out lately.

elissa (07b801) — 5/31/2013 @ 12:55 pm

“I confess I am on something of a quest to understand if you come here because you want to be taken seriously as a respected intellectual contributor/challenger to the dialogue on this blog –or just as a purveyor of one liners. And I guess I’m having some trouble figuring that out lately.”

– elissa

I respect your desire to engage in respectable intellectual discourse and dialogue. At its best, this blog provides a wonderful forum for such discourse and dialogue. However – and I mean this genuinely, and would be interested to hear your thoughts on it – it feels like the vast majority of the posts these days don’t provide an opportunity for the disagreement necessary to a genuine discourse or dialogue. There are a bunch of posts pointing out that Obama and his various underlings are frauds and weasels and worse – and I don’t disagree with any of it.

How could I? Am I supposed to think that it’s okay to target conservative groups for IRS persecution? And if I don’t think it’s okay, at all, what sort of substantive discourse are we supposed to have on that topic?

At the same time, there are plenty of policy areas where we do disagree, and where substantive, polite, enjoyable, and productive discourse and dialogue could be had. And I would love to have it. But we’d rather have thread after thread after thread taking turns giving our take on a collective righteous indignation.

That annoys me the hell out of me, and I revert to one-liners to vent that frustration.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:09 pm

You’ll notice, for instance, that I made a substantive post on the Redskins trademark thread.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:20 pm

Seriously, elissa: if you want to have a substantive conversatio about something, please say so. I would love to have such a conservation with you.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:24 pm

And I mean that genuinely. Lotta respect for you.

Leviticus (b98400) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:25 pm

I think EPWJ is legitmately confused about the House and the Senate. He doesn’t understand that the Democrats have a strong majority in the Senate.

Comment by Elephant Stone (6a6f37) — 5/31/2013 @ 11:55 am

First I am confused a lot, but modern medicine has made strides.

2nd. Cruz is an intelligent man, a thoughtful and reasoned man who was trusted by many people in Texas to handle sensitive and complex issues.

3rd. Cruz is doing what? And most importantly why? If he’s just now figuring out that equating Republicans with democrats is somehow going to get him a coalition to help the people, the country – I’m not seeing it.

4th. We all know democrats are bad, but there are some that he could, just could pickoff, to help minimize the damage if he was the old Ted Cruz who got liberal judges to vote his way.

5th. I didn’t like his lying about Dewhurst and people who know me – I like Dewhurst – but at times – some very critical, Dewhurst faltered. But measured against the overwhelming great job he’s done, in total, these are minor, but still troublesome. But to win, Cruz had to paint him as a liberal which was just gobsmacking outright bullcrap lying. Like Pete Olson did against the Republican female Doctor in Houstons replacement of Delay, they used the same campaign strategist BTW.

Cruz is burning down the house that the people built in order to save the people?

For a guy who some could honestly argue maybe one of the smartest people on either side to enter congress in decades to act like a childish a$$ repeatedly, I’m wondering why?

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:46 pm

MD

I think you ARE the glimmer of hope – Ted Cruz is our employee, not our employer. He’s there to work it out, to find the truth, to not have inquests without inquests, to do the will of the people to the best of his ability – that’s my point.

You deserve to have him listen – once you go to one of his meetings – and I encourage everyone here to watch on youtube – where there’s no cameras just constituents then judge for yourselves.

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 1:50 pm

EPWJ – could you point out where anyone here confused the employee employer relationship with respect to Cruz? The audacity of you referencing gobsmacking outright bullcr@p is beyond parody.

JD (b63a52) — 5/31/2013 @ 2:54 pm

“and I encourage everyone here to watch on youtube – where there’s no cameras just constituents then judge for yourselves.”

EPWJ – I’m confused, how can you watch on youtube if there are no cameras?

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/31/2013 @ 3:18 pm

I see the Ad homs still cannot pinpoint what Cruz is going to do.

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:24 pm

the picture in his mind’s eye, daley, much more vivid then reality,

narciso (3fec35) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:44 pm

So ‘Otto’ thinks that Holder should stay in office.

narciso (3fec35) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:48 pm

94. Evidently, the status of woolly thinking is so secure, its future so bright, that one voice in the wilderness, speaking lucidly and frankly, at a station where screaming horsesh*t is the norm, is to be disparaged as a waste of oxygen.

Not to issue an ad hominem attack, but we have a smattering of negative voices in our midst that offer hollow complaints about Sen. Cruz’s inadequate positivity and practicality that are little more than pissing into a hurricane.

I have yet, please correct me, to hear a single practicable idea of worth from the lot, notably direct democracy.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 5/31/2013 @ 4:57 pm

Well our Dubai traveller has been wrong so often,
Ramos and Campean, O’keefe, Palin, the number of jews in Iran, that any of his statements are self negating,

narciso (3fec35) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:04 pm

We get it, EPWJ. Cruz is your newest target to aim your hatred at.

JD (14ffcf) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:13 pm

“the picture in his mind’s eye, daley, much more vivid then reality,”

narciso – There is, after all, only one person for whom his comments hold any meaning. Crazy people don’t usually know they are crazy in my experience.

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:15 pm

In other news, he discovered it’s illegal to display a weapon in D.c,

http://nomorecocktails.com/post/2013/05/31/BOMBSHELL-David-Gergory-reveals-that-Leon-Panetta-told-Holder-to-do-something-about-James-Rosen.aspx

narciso (3fec35) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:23 pm

I don’t hate Cruz – its too bad – the Ad homs cannot point out where he is going with his attacks on both republicans and democrats – and how this is going to achieve his promises of fixing Washington

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 5/31/2013 @ 5:33 pm

We get it, EPWJ. Cruz is your newest target to aim your hatred at.

Comment by JD

hatred no! tough love
true compassion knows no bounds
now release teh hounds

Colonel Haiku (39f32e) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:05 pm

Do you have a specific objection to Cruz, or do you just despise him because Sens like Cruz, Paul, and Lee do not play nice with the establishment ho’s that you adore?

JD (14ffcf) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:11 pm

i would like to add my voice to Ted’s and call for Eric Holder’s resignation as well

happyfeet (c60db2) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:23 pm

I’ll back you up on the tenor, happyfeet.

nk (875f57) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:42 pm

thanks Mr. nk all that is necessary for evil like Eric Holder to triumph is for good men to do nothing but if we speak out he’s gonna be in a real pickle

happyfeet (c60db2) — 5/31/2013 @ 6:45 pm

106. ‘Policy initiative’:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/31/The-Grounding-of-Big-Government

Have they not heard? Government is dead.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 6/1/2013 @ 5:28 am

JD

My specific problems with Cruz is that he lied about Dewhurst and his own record. Look up the debate coverage back in 2012 when he said he Texas issues to the Supreme court and authored all those briefs – that was a lie – Atty
gen greg abbott did all that and Cruz was along for the ride as an employee.

ut look Rubio lied, lied like a sieve about his record and yes it disturbs me like Pat was with ODonnell, I’m not going to back down from people who completely and I mean completely lie about their record.

Rubio, Cruz (and no Its not Tea Party Candidates I supposedly focus on Olson wasn’t) don’t need to be there, did not get there on their own merits and right now – Cruz has the Talent, he is a very very convincing speaker, I’ve witnessed that talent first hand in 2004, – but he’s doing something else.

Why? And Who hasn’t called for Holder’s resignation, its not unique, effective and face it the guys not going to leave and if he4 did another holder will take his place.

If I were Cruz or any other Senator the business would stop until the IRS chief and the president give details of the 118 whitehouse meetings (that they admitted too, how many phone calls, memos were there?) they had – one formally recorded meeting every three weeks – whats up it – that’s hugely disturbing – when you consider the fact we were at war in two countries.

E.PWJ (1cedce) — 6/1/2013 @ 5:44 am

108. Slow down PeeWee, you read unhinged.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 6/1/2013 @ 9:17 am

gary

Not nearly as unhinged as his shining eyed followers…

not even close…

E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:08 am

108. “Look up the debate coverage back in 2012 when he said he Texas issues to the Supreme court and authored all those briefs – that was a lie – Atty
gen greg abbott did all that and Cruz was along for the ride as an employee.”

Lets begin here. As an engineer, on my resume, I would list the project, and very generally my part of the project–space permitting.

You know for a fact, the employee did not author the briefs? You know for a fact, the employee was along for the ride?

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:16 am

gg– Surely you know by now it’s always the top guy/gal in any organization who does all the work. 🙂

elissa (9e2800) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:51 am

112. Like ObaWon, natch.

gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:56 am

Bill Gates picks up the phone when I call Microsoft for tech support. Is that just me?

nk (875f57) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:59 am

111. You know for a fact, the employee did not author the briefs? You know for a fact, the employee was along for the ride?

Comment by gary gulrud (dd7d4e) — 6/1/2013 @ 10:16 am

Of course the employee is just along for the ride. Isn’t that why you have employees? So they can watch the boss work?

I know my business partner as the executive chef in two restaurants cooks every single thing. The sous chefs and the rest of the kitchen staffs are just along for the ride. There only assigned task is to toast his achievements.

Steve57 (9b1cdb) — 6/1/2013 @ 11:04 am

Gary,

Greg Abbott – who is very loyal to his employees – and wants them to grow and be successful – directed, authored, and argued those “briefs” that Cruz claimed responsibility for.

In the very same tact – NK’s example is a good one – Cruz is the tech support guy saying he invented Microsoft – not the other way around – thank you for helping me illustrate the difference.

More brainwashed shining eyed……

E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 6/1/2013 @ 12:03 pm

he’s just a spud boy
looking for that real tomato
he’s been with teh world

Colonel Haiku (04be0d) — 6/1/2013 @ 12:08 pm

Right, E.PWJ.

In exactly the same way an executive chef personally “directed, ~~authored~~ prepared, and ~~argued~~ served” the food you ate the last time you went out to eat.

Nobody else in the restaurant was responsible for any of it.

Steve57 (9b1cdb) — 6/1/2013 @ 12:13 pm

He is pro amnesty too. He authored Bush’s amnesty plan. And his history of being against amnesty proves he is pro-amnesty.

JD (14ffcf) — 6/1/2013 @ 12:43 pm

He did not sink when dunked, so obviously he’s a witch.

narciso (3fec35) — 6/1/2013 @ 12:50 pm

more shining eyed goal post moving

Lot of that in this thread

So if Cruz authored something – he really doesn’t believe in it except when he believes in it – but you should elect him because he authored stuff but if it contradicts his stands today well he was just doing his job but if he was doing his job he really meant to do it anyway so disregard that most of his achievements were things he was told to do but things he was going to do anyway before he was told to do it

or the short version

yada yada yada by legions of shiny eyed followers of Sen pages

E.PWJ (1ea63e) — 6/1/2013 @ 1:40 pm

I have yet to see the emails from Sen. Cornyn’s office regarding Sen. Cruz and have seen no proof Se. Cruz was lying about authorship of briefs. Mere assertions by a serial fabricator and smear merchant do not carry much, if any, credibility.

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 6/1/2013 @ 2:06 pm

Our friend EPWJ is definitely on to something.
I, too, had heard these rumours of someone very resembling Ted Cruz, hiding atop the grassy knoll, then disappearing under a bridge, only to be quickly ushered into an awaiting get-away car.

There’s no question about it.

Someone needs to ask Senator Cruz point blank, “Senator, where were you on November 22, 1963 ?”

Elephant Stone (8d2c6e) — 6/1/2013 @ 5:16 pm

ut look Rubio lied, lied like a sieve about his record and yes it disturbs me like Pat was with ODonnell, I’m not going to back down from people who completely and I mean completely lie about their record.

Undoubtedly this fooking hypocrite has many fights with himself in the mirror and has absolutely no sense of irony. What was that little bit about him supporting Scuzzyfavor and then later on denying it, you know HIS own record. And then to have his own words come back and bite him in the ass when several posters pasted his previous remarks of support.

Time for you to go beat your own ass up, Eric, and leave the grownups alone.

peedoffamerican (35b482) — 6/1/2013 @ 5:47 pm

EPWJ, you lie about your own record of commenting here at Patterico’s.

Elephant Stone (8d2c6e) — 6/1/2013 @ 5:56 pm

It occurred to me that it would be most helpful if there was a filter option that would allow the reader to block the entries by the bloviator.

Yeah, I need to get around to updating the filter I had for the old format. I’ll do that real soon now, I think.

Milhouse (3d0df0) — 6/2/2013 @ 11:55 am

Apparently the shiny eyed followers still cannot point out Senator pages plan to fix washington

E.PWJ (f44e22) — 6/2/2013 @ 12:31 pm

daley

Cornyn has class, maturity, and takes his responsibilities for the people seriously.

E.PWJ (f44e22) — 6/2/2013 @ 12:33 pm

E.PWJ is rehashing Dewhurst’s claims about Cruz’s Supreme Court practice. It’s obvious who the majority of Texans believed.

DRJ (a83b8b) — 6/2/2013 @ 1:01 pm

Eric is like a one-trick pony that’s trying to do it’s trick with a busted leg.

Icy (1604da) — 6/2/2013 @ 1:03 pm

I see EPWJ is back to concern troll mode.

Concern troll is concerned.

SPQR (f86098) — 6/2/2013 @ 1:18 pm

EPWJ is a body in need of a brain.

peedoffamerican (c1890a) — 6/2/2013 @ 2:39 pm

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-congressional-election/cruz-and-patrick-angrily-debate-dewhurst-record/

Ted Cruz accused of Lying by founder of Texas Tea Party

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 3:57 pm

If only this EPWJ person were as angry at Obama as he is at Ted Cruz.

Elephant Stone (6c9e0c) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:00 pm

If only EPWJ spent as many years on this blog with concerns about the policies and actions of Democrats, we might begin to lose our opinion that EPWJ is a concern troll ….

Naaaah.

SPQR (b2a3be) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:09 pm

Ted Cruz also was involved heavily in one of the most egregious and atrocious child imprisonment cases and tried to hide the fact s well. That alone – I mean his wife is worth millions – need he really need to work for this guy?

Oh yeah and if he runs nationally the democrats in PA – who ted seems to have done a lot of work for – they are going to dump all the advice and memos from Ted right into the main stream press.

I’m surprised they haven’t already

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:13 pm

Cruz performed civil legal work for a Pennsylvania developer embroiled in a judge-bribing scheme known as the “kids for cash” scandal.

Cruz’s campaign blamed the late filing on an administrative error, and he defended his work for developer Robert Mericle as “civil litigation over breach of contract.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=robert+mericle&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7AURU_enUS503

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:18 pm

It’s starting to look like EPWJ’s not a big tent kind of guy.

elissa (7e0bc5) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:23 pm

DRJ

Do you remember Dewhurst passing a payroll (income tax) in Texas? Because Cruz did, even though every Texas Republican and even some Democrat Senators signed a letter calling Cruz out for lying.

That’s when he went running to the Tea Party.

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:33 pm

elissa

Child enslavers of the worst sort are not the kind of people I would ever work for – but Ted did.

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:34 pm

The AP is reporting that Ted Cruz once forgot to bus his tray on the way out the door at a McDonald’s…in 1991.
Coupled with the stunning revelation by Cruz’s wife that the Senator doesn’t always put the cap back on the tooth paste, I have no idea how can entertain aspirations of someday becoming President.

This EPWJ person is correct; we must Impeach Cruz Now !

Elephant Stone (6c9e0c) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:34 pm

I told you ES, he’s a witch or warlock,

narciso (3fec35) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:36 pm

Dewhurst spokesman Mark Miner said Monday that an open letter from Republicans in the state Senate shows that GOP lawmakers are tired of being caught in the crossfire of the U.S. Senate contest between Cruz and Dewhurst. The letter, while never mentioning Cruz by name, takes issue with some of his main talking points.“This clearly demonstrates how Republicans in Texas have had enough of Ted Cruz and his Washington insider cronies putting out misinformation,” Miner said. “This race is about the conservative policies that have been implemented in Texas versus a Washington insider like Ted Cruz. David Dewhurst is the proven conservative in this race.”

The Cruz campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:40 pm

SPQR

Visine will keep your eyes shining

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 4:53 pm

Oh, elissa, I enjoy your posts. “Big tent” indeed. More like “Purity of Essence,” perhaps? It’s a fault many, many folks on both sides of the aisle have. Except the Left seems to care more about “D” versus “R” than we do. Which is why they won.

Simon Jester (5ac808) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:01 pm

Eric-

Ted Cruz is the sitting junior United States Senator from Texas. His term of office is 5 more years. Your clumsy attempts to neuter him and to disempower and belittle him for the entire duration of those 5+ years is what people–especially your fellow Texans– do not understand or appreciate. Your strange and obsessive need to name-call and heckle other commenters who simply happen to see things differently, and who currently view Cruz’ performance, opportunities, weaknesses and strengths differently than you, is really quite incomprehensible.

elissa (7e0bc5) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:02 pm

Can anyone show a link that Dewhurst supported a payroll tax in texas? Or killed a sanctuary cities bill?

Look they had to choose between two – and when Cruz put those out there as facts Texans freakin hate taxes – it was all over it stuck, Dewhurst didn’t have the time or the money to erase the windstorm those completely false allegations created.

Look he’s a very talented and possibly one of the smartest people to go into the senate in decades – but when he gets on this dishonest tact people need to call him out

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:02 pm

but I can see that the Ad homs are out in force. DRJ not included in that comment, and I do appreciate why you guys like what he is doing, I just don’t trust the guy – something else is brewing. He had 12 years to complain about the spending in Texas – well it wasn’t until the runoff that we actually heard the man.

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:06 pm

keep chokin’ that chicken, PW…

Colonel Haiku (26d2f9) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:08 pm

http://www.lbb.state.tx.us/Fact_Book/Fact_Book_2012.pdf

please show where texas leads the nation in spending increases under Dewhurst – Cruz lie number 325

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:18 pm

Telepathic mutant, like the one that could control Charles Xavier,

narciso (3fec35) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:19 pm

Maybe I’m using the wrong calendar? Because I thought the Cruz Dewhurst run-off election was already over.

elissa (7e0bc5) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:21 pm

elissa

okay so can you prove any of his claims about Dewhurst? I mean why would you support a liar? Because of party? Principles mean nothing anymore? Is he actually going to do anything?

At this point would you vote for him for president?

In a Perry or Palin administration would you want hi in a cabinet post or a VP?

Knowing he knowingly worked for a man who was bribing judges to give long prison sentences to kids who were innocent so he could build prisons?

And then first tried to hide the fact and then lied about the work he did.

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:22 pm

He’ll never be over Macho Grande,

narciso (3fec35) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:23 pm

Oh Cruz is still running, you can ask him why he needs to still run for office

I agree

E.PWJ (6140f6) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:24 pm

This is how clever his telepathy is;

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/dewhurst-sues-former-campaign-manager-over-missing/nWkR9/

narciso (3fec35) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:27 pm

Do you remember Dewhurst passing a payroll (income tax) in Texas? Because Cruz did,

And from what legislative or executive office did he do this?

JD (b63a52) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:44 pm

Hasn’t the Cruz outsider vs Dewhurst insider run-off election been over for a long damn time?!

JD (b63a52) — 6/2/2013 @ 5:49 pm

E.PWJ,

Dewhurst is a nice guy and a loyal Texan, but IMO he isn’t as conservative as Cruz so I prefer Cruz. I guess only time will tell how much success Cruz will have bringing a conservative message to Washington. It doesn’t seem like a popular message to most of the country, but I’m holding out hope.

I think Cruz is a better messenger for conservatism than Dewhurst, Cornyn, or Hutchison because Cruz is willing to confront the DC media and Beltway political leaders and is a good extemporaneous speaker. It’s sad that national politicians and media have become so liberal and dysfunctional that it takes both an articulate and a confrontational messenger to get the conservative message out, but it has.

As for Dan Patrick and the Texas Tea Party caucus he founded, the advisory committee of the caucus disagreed with Patrick’s endorsement of Dewhurst:

Update: The advisory committee to the Texas Legislature’s Tea Party Caucus has released a statement saying Senator Dan Patrick’s endorsement does not represent the views of the committee. Patrick’s chief of staff, Logan Spence, said “Dan certainly doesn’t speak on behalf of the Texas Tea Party Caucus in the Senate”.

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The comments area a treasure.

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