2012 campaign coverage vs 2012 media bias
[Posted by Karl]
The Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism released a study today with what some mght consider to be surprising findings: Over the last five months, the presidential candidate with the most negative media coverage is Barack Obama, while the candidate with the most positive coverage is Rick Perry. So much for liberal media bias, eh? However, a closer look at the study suggests much less news than meets the eye — and even less about media bias.
Why is Obama getting an almost 4:1 ratio of negative stories to positive stories? Pew answers:
Several factors were likely responsible for that critical tone. In many stories, Obama was the target of not only the whole roster of GOP presidential contenders. He was also being criticized in often harsh terms by Republicans in Congress. Added to that, members of his own party began criticizing him on both policy and strategy grounds, particularly as his poll numbers fell. And for much of this period, the president’s coverage reflected the biggest problem on his watch-a continual flow of bad news about the U.S. economy.
Translation: Obama is getting negative coverage because few like the job he’s doing as president. The coverage reflects events on the ground. Similarly, although Perry received the most positive coverage overall, it is equally obvious the media coveage tracks events on the ground. He received a lot of positive stories during his splashy campaign rollout, but the coverage has turned more negative as his campaign has stumbled (blog coverage actually tracked the polls more closely; the MSM lags a bit). Herman Cain’s coverage also started turning positive in August and is now the most positively covered candidate (for how long remains to be seen). The coverage of Mitt Romney has been as stagnant as his poll numbers.
Establishment journalists will seize on the Pew study as evidence that they do not have a liberal bias. (indeed, Politico* is already unsubtly suggesting Team Obama start working the refs.) To be sure, the media bias does not extend so far as pretending that the economy is roaring along. However, the Pew study by necessity only tracks stories actually covered. Such studies will not reflect the media’s propagation of Team Obama’s “jobs saved or created” dodge. The Pew study will not reflect that NBC and ABC largely ignore the Obama administration’s Fast & Furious scandal and that the entire establishment media blacked out the House subpoena to the top levels of the Justice Department in the scandal. Pew won’t reflect Big Media’s systemic downplaying of our exploding national debt and pretending that Obama has a serious plan to deal with it. The list goes on and on. When the watchdogs don’t bark, Pew won’t hear — but that’s not evidence of media objectivity.
*Cross-link provided to honor Patterico’s Politico boycott.
–Karl
Ding!
Karl (f07e38) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:49 amBig Journalism has e-mails showing that the MSM is shaping and advising the OWS protests while purportedly “covering ” them objectively.
Mike K (9ebddd) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:58 amThis is the cover story the media will fall back on next year, when its coverage will be as one-sided for Obama as a lonely fan’s adoration of a famous celebrity.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:01 amDing!
You sound manly when you ding.
Obama is an Assclown.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:14 amGee! This is UNHEARD OF! Oh, except when you think back to 2009, to the AmericansForProsperity/FoxNewsChannel/FreedomWorks-funded and promoted teaparties.
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:15 am🙄 Oh look assclown jr.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:15 amMike K is exactly right. Ratigan and other JournoListas are helping them shape their message, and it will go unreported outside of the right side.
JD (4e46ba) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:16 amI like how Tifosa names a couple of grassroots organizations to complain about… their support for grassroots campaigns?
I’ll ignore the FNC hysterics. They like ratings, so they cover the news. Oh heavens.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:19 amAgain, tifosa is projecting the actual actions of the left to it’s fevered imaginings of the nefarious doings of the right. Kock brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!
JD (4e46ba) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:22 amhark, did I hear “assclowns?” Well, speak of the devil–> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriAUHDawHs
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:23 amObama’s negative media coverage?
Gee, could it be because his policy SUCKS?
Or, could it be because his performance in instituting and implementing those policies SUCK?
Or, just maybe it’s because some blinders have been removed, and members of the media finally realize that an empty-suit has no there, there?
I’ll believe that the MSM has learned its’ lesson when they start presenting to us interviews with fellow-students and instructors from President Millstones past,
and we see his college transcripts and published legal writings.
Until then, they’re still in-the-bag for The Lightworker, who demonstrates negative-wattage in his out-put.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:24 amYes, Tifosa, it’s true that Fox covered the Tea Parties.
Oh heavens. They also covered the Occupy filth.
Get it? They cover stuff that happens so people watch the channel to learn about the world, and then they can sell advertising.
It’s not very complicated, when you think about it.
You need something much more concrete, such as what Mike K mentioned, to show collusion. Note that Cavuto isn’t even a straight objective news presenter like Shep Smith. He’s just a conservative pundit. Fox has quite a few of these of differing opinions.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:26 amI don’t really know how “Conservative” Cavuto is politically, only that he is a VERY GOOD reporter/commentator on business/economic matters –
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:28 amprobably because, unlike many (all) of our trolls, he understands how business does, and doesn’t, work.
He’s one of my favorites on Fox.
But anyway, he doesn’t hide that he has an opinion on matters. Mike K is talking about a so-called objective reporter who actually is advising these OWS protestors while covering them ‘objectively’. All Cavuto does is provide his views on what’s happening in the world.
The left likes to pretend conservative pundits are somehow just as bad as MSM’s news presenters being biased while pretending to be objective.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:31 amTo the Left, being objective is reporting what everyone in their little circle “knows”.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:38 amIt’s the Pauline Kael Effect!
Liberal journalists like to say conservatives get their walking orders from Rush Limbaugh. Now we learn they’re really the ones issuing the orders. I guess they think everyone is like them but, of course, we’re not or we’d all be liberals.
DRJ (a83b8b) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:39 am#12: Fox advertised locations/promoted events. Remember “FNC Tax Day Tea Parties?” Seems a bit whiny in here today, no? ;o)
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:44 am?
So you don’t think the news should note when major events are going to occur? Why? Because MSNBC didn’t think folks should know when the Tea Parties are?
I honestly don’t get it.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 10:50 am“Get it? They cover stuff that happens so people watch the channel to learn about the world, and then they can sell advertising.”
My point was, more than “covered.” Purposefully obtuse Dustin?
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:01 amFor the news that really matters:
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:06 amMcCourts reach settlement….
“Jamie would give up any claim to the team, multiple sources familiar with the deal say. Now, Frank sets his sights on winning his battle with Selig.”
H/T- LAT
I don’t get it, Tifosa.
I think it’s more like the other networks failed to sufficiently or honestly cover the Tea Parties. This is no more obvious than how they would cut out the skin color of a protestor or highlight kooks who were often not even conservative, but with the OWS, they do the exact opposite.
Did the right wing pundits show they agreed with the Tea Partiers? I’m sure most did. Is that what you’re calling ‘more than covered’? I don’t understand why that would be.
The Tea Parties were major events in American history, so of course any reputable organization is covering their existence. Is that what you’re calling ‘advertised’? Because, if so, you seem to be saying media should censor coverage of conservative events, else they are somehow corrupt.
I count four links on FNC’s main page discussing the occupy wall street events. I do not have access to cable TV right now, but I suspect they are covering them.
So you’re pretty plainly wrong.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:08 amSeems like tifosa is a little touchy about that. But I don’t care. I care much more how the MSM put the TEA party under a microscope, looking at their backgrounds and searching endlessly for “calls to violence.”
These Marxist anarchists? I’m waiting. But I’m not holding my breath. Anoxia is dangerous.
Water carriers like tifosa know they are hypocrites. And it makes them angry. Laugh at “her.”
Simon Jester (ab7db7) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:08 amLet’s not forget that nut-case who turned out to be a Columbia Grad-student, with a trust-fund.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:14 amI’m sure tiffy identifies with him, while the rest of us think he should be a case-study at Bellview.
Tiffy’s manic episodes are all alike. Ooooooooh, Jon Huntsman. The rest is boilerplate leftist drivel.
JD (ae55d7) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:22 amMy guess is that nothing will stop that whining of the right about the “liberal msm.” (Laughable)
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:30 ambtw hahaha “Yo mama’s pudgy, face it” –> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9L9A1IMTQo&feature=player_embedded
The “liberal man”?
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:32 amIs that the new Piltdown Man?
And the left will not stop whining about fauxnews.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:38 amWanna spread the fun: Rick Perry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDhDRvHaGs&NR=1
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:39 am“Imagine there’s no pizza” –>http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/herman-cain-sings-imagine-theres-no-pizza
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:41 amhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/herman-cain-sings-imagine-theres-no-pizza
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:41 amManic link spamming is so played out, tifosa.
JD (36b0e9) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:53 amJD, its troll fu is unbelievably weak.
And just look how desperate it is to deflect from the media bias issue. It tries to argue, can’t, so it tries to troll, and can’t.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 11:59 amho hum…media bias… yaddayaddayadda…
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 12:02 pmIf it is so boring, you can remind yourself that nobody is for ing you to read or comment or purchase. Mandates like that are the found on your side of the aisle. Now, run along to Dylan Ratigan, and get your new talking points. Yours are stale.
JD (36b0e9) — 10/17/2011 @ 12:14 pmSurber has a post up about Cain’s tenure at the KC Fed. Seems he was a uniter and well regarded.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 10/17/2011 @ 1:00 pmTifosa
Fox News Corp is Owned by Murdoch – who is a liberal, supports liberal causes and liberal candidates
Too many Fox anchors are Liberals Wallace, (well one of his many personalities) Greta, Shep, Huckabee, Geraldo, in fact Shep is on several hours a day. Most of the others like huddy, Kelly, O’Reilly are lefty(albeit mildly) leaning moderates. Very few are hard core and they are Malkin (when she’s on), Ingraham, Fox&Friends weekdays Hume and Gibson.
Hannity is just a twirling fool so who really knows why he’s still on.
Hannity was good arguing with a over the top liberal but being on with alan even makes a mild lefty like O’Reilly look Hard core right.
Hannity reminds me of those democrats who cant afford the taxes
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 10/17/2011 @ 2:20 pmepwj lecturing tiffy…
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 2:56 pmOh, the Humanity!
😆
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:08 pmTifosa is making a point that one of my lefty friends made to me quite a while ago: that FOX News didn’t just report on TEA party rallies after they happened, but extensively “promoted” them in advance, something that — so the lefty claim goes — “real” reporters never do for lefty events. An event is only newsworthy when it happens; predictions that it’s going to happen are not news reporting, they’re advertising.
So I guess I didn’t know about the “million man march” until after 200K people showed up for it. Which means that when a reporter approached me on a Brooklyn street the day that it was supposed to happen, and asked me for my reaction, I should have said I had no idea what she meant, because I wouldn’t find out about it until the next day. But somehow, I don’t quite remember how, I knew exactly what she was talking about. I guess I must have seen some advertising, though I don’t know where, since pretty much all I was reading in those days was the NYT and some right-wing magazines that certainly weren’t promoting it.
Milhouse (644f18) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:11 pmi read an article in “New York” today about Ailes, the fox machine, the deal about beck leaving, from May2011
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:13 pm#36
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:15 pmMilhouse, They were advertised as the “FNC Tax Day TeaParties.”
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:17 pmMilhouse,I have terminal brain death.
From Obot mafia member Tifosa.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:28 pmyou can see screenshots (4/9/09 Your World w/Cavuto) almost everywhere except on Fox sites ….I wonder why…Another mystery, while we’re on the media bias topic, seems to me Fox (read Hannity, OReilly) is finding it difficult to interview the literate Occupiers. What could THAT be about?
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:32 pmLiterate occupiers.
🙄 Yeah surrrrrrrrrrrrrre and I’m Nancy Pelosi.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:33 pm==finding it difficult to interview the literate Occupiers. What could THAT be about==
Just a guess, you understand– but maybe it’s because the occupiers smell too bad to get close enough to for an interview.
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:36 pmFox TEA Party promotions…
Wasn’t most (all) of the hype by Fox “opinionators” such as Hannity, Beck, etc.?
Opinion v. Reporting
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:37 pmHhhm, guess you aren’t watching the live coverage. There are livestream rooms from several of the cities. Just curious, where do you get your info about Occupy?
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:38 pmStraight from the Horse’s ass….
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:40 pmPravda West, aka Los Angeles Times (Heh!).
Fox and friends, Bret Baier, opinion or news?
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:41 pmguess you aren’t watching the live coverage
which is explainable by the simple fact that we are working, and not holed-up in our Mom’s basement.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:42 pmZuccotti park is a public park but it is privately owned.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:42 pm==where do you get your info about Occupy?==
Can’t speak for anyone else, but I get it first hand, Tifosa. They’re occupying my city. I see it with my own eyes and hear it with my own ears. The regular people who live and work in the area and the tourists are not amused.
Just curious, where are you getting your information?
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:45 pmOh, and Tifosa, my city has a huge population of immigrants from Poland, and parts of the old Soviet Union. They’re really thrilled (NOT) with the Communiist Party speakers at the Occupy rallies.
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:51 pmMilhouse, Tifosa
Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly Tea Party rallies but at that time so did many liberal papers because they saw them more critical of The Republicans than that of Obama and the liberla Media – which I consider Fox to be an outlier of, was puching for a third party which O’Reilly and Hannity currently promote today.
The Liberla Media stopped their support of the Tea Parties and now their constant moral sapping meme that they are finished is due to the fact that all they managed to do was disrupt the Senate elections but they overwhelmed the house
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:51 pmI meant beck Hannity and O’Reilly promoted Tea Party Rallies…
EricPWJohnson (c5f1fc) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:52 pmIronically Walesa an anti-communist doesn’t mind the commies speaking at OWS.
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 3:59 pmNinety nine percent
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:01 pmno way. The occupy crew
so full of hubris
150 gathered in my town too, not dirty, dumb..
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:02 pmhelp for tifosa
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:03 pmnew Tiger Balm for the Ass®
apply carefully!
Obama’s record
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:06 pmwould prompt media lapdog
howling in sane world
• tifosa had one
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:06 pmtoo many mimosa and
m00nbat crash and burn
Comment by ColonelHaiku — 8/7/2011 @ 12:44 pm
my fave col
tifosa speak of
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:08 pmthe great, unwashed ne’er-do-wells
lefties in action
don’t block the sidewalk
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:09 pmI have right to walk there you
drum banging hippie
trust fund idiots
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:11 pmclowns looking for hot chicas
rotten tenured profs
sidewalks of cities
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:14 pmnever need so much hosing
since Barnum-Bailey
much prefer sound of
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:15 pmsymphony timpani to
pounding on bucket
police horses smell
better than occupiers
much prettier too
[note: released from moderation. –Stashiu]
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:17 pmI’m sensing that you don’t like this movement…shocking :^) You are the 99%
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:22 pmTiffy is full Monty manic today
JD (448fa8) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:25 pmsweet, that’s a saver too JD ;^)
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:26 pmhttp://biggovernment.com/rebelpundit/2011/10/17/update-communist-marching-with-occupychicago-identified-as-ofa-organizer-for-president-obama/#more-353372
ian cormac (0fc95f) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:31 pmDear little tifosa is all upset because “her” movement is clearly being treated differently by the MSM. And as folks on the ‘Net begin really looking into the OWS folk, we get to see all kinds of crazies.
Now, I remember—and so does tifosa—how the MSM hysterically portrayed unusual people at the TEA parties.
But “Lotionman,” the lady anti-Semite, and the trustifarian who wanted his tuition paid because, well, he wanted it paid…why, that’s different! Just an aberration.
Wheels are coming off, tifosa. Your hypocrisy and dishonesty are showing. And in more places than this thread, “ma’am.”
Simon Jester (39553c) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:48 pm==I’m sensing that you don’t like this movement==
Tifosa– what I don’t like is when people I don’t even know ostensibly speak for me (a “member” of the 99%) and try to include me in their movement. I don’t like it when, without my permission, they march, and bang, and disrupt, and make demands, and incorporate radical speech in my name just because I am in a certain arbitrary numerical segment of the American population they claim to represent.
The occupiers are free to speak for themselves –but they are not welcome to arrogantly claim they speak for me, or that they represent me, or my “interests”. Their attitude is hubristic and delusional to the max.
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:51 pm★Fair enough elissa ♥
tifosa (a6a092) — 10/17/2011 @ 4:54 pmelissa, well said.
Clearly the 99% assume everyone is as miserable and self-serving as they, thus can speak for all. As one of the53%, I prefer to speak for myself.
Dana (4eca6e) — 10/17/2011 @ 5:23 pmAt best, they were the Obama zombies who gave the ones on last night’s WD, a run for their money, at worst, they are a violent nihilistic mob like we
ian cormac (0fc95f) — 10/17/2011 @ 5:27 pmsaw in Rome, the other day.
sax and violins
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 5:34 pmwhen you’re in Last Days of Rome
do as Romans do
Great point.
I think a lot of folks have no idea what the OWS folks are after, but I will just submit that a scant fifth of Americans favor socialism. And though I find that figure disturbingly high, it is not anywhere near 99%.
Dustin (b2fb78) — 10/17/2011 @ 5:44 pmDana–thanks for posting the 53% link. Some very enjoyable and hope-inspiring reading there!
elissa (274457) — 10/17/2011 @ 5:44 pmIronically Walesa an anti-communist doesn’t mind the commies speaking at OWS.
Comment by DohBiden — 10/17/2011 @ 3:59 pm
He’s just glad that they’re not speaking in Warsaw or Gdansk; that might cause a problem – for the Commies.
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:00 pmWalesa is one of those useless codgers like McCain or Grassley or Lautenberg what just need to stop.
have some tea and walk your dog if you can and rewatch Buffy from the beginning
thank you for your service or whatever
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:04 pmYou know, Pikachu, sometimes, actually quite often
ian cormac (0fc95f) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:12 pmyou say things of incredible inanity, and this has to be one of them, Walesa’s Gdansk strike, about 30 years ago, was one of the things that brought the Soviet Union to it’s knees, he’s wrong on this one, but he is do more than his share of respect.
that was awesome but we’ve moved onto a new set of existential problems Mr. corwin
but the codgers haven’t
and now more than ever if you’re not part of the solution… what are you, lech?
three guesses grampa
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:14 pmHopeless!
Another Drew - Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (35c310) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:19 pmWalesa is one of those useless codgers like McCain or Grassley or Lautenberg what just need to stop
It’s statements like these that showcase a unique ability to lack the most basic understanding of the historical importance of key figures who both made history and steered history in an exceedingly good direction. Lech Walesa is one such man.
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:21 pmYou are often funny, happy, but also often “not right in the head”.
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:22 pmexcuse me I mean Mr. *cormac*
sorry I need a coffee I think if I’m to wrest anything productive from this evening
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:22 pmjust my opinion.
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:23 pmhistorical figures can blow me while my little country is spending itself into the historical toilet… breathtakingly rapidly
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:23 pmnew meaning to the descriptive “excremental”…
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:26 pmhere is a (partial) list of historical figures what can blow me while my little country is spending itself into the historical toilet
Charles Schulz
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 6:27 pmBetsy Ross
anyone named “Izzy”
Lee Iacocca
Ronald Reagan
Helen Keller
and Jerry Mathers as The Beaver
Look at me using ‘what’ in a “funny” way and making stupid pop culture references! My schtick is so tiresome and rarely funny but yet like a drug I just CAN’T STOP!
crappyfeet (07a5ab) — 10/17/2011 @ 7:11 pmkettle? this is pot… you’re black!
ColonelHaiku (75566b) — 10/17/2011 @ 7:12 pmhah! I been waiting for to share this little treasure Mr. crappy
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 7:13 pm91 was quite entertaining.
JD (318f81) — 10/17/2011 @ 8:02 pmWhen black Tea-partiers are falsely accused of something can the civil rights unions stick up for them?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 8:08 pmOK, maybe this is a bit off of the original topic but OWS is closer than some of the discussion-
I heard Rush today make reference to this article:
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-11/news/30265911_1_loan-guarantee-wind-farm-solyndra
I know nothing about the reputation of the Business Insider, so if it is the National Enquirer of business news, please forgive
Seems the location of OWS is privately owned… ultimately by the same people who just got a ton of money from the federal govt to subsidize a…wind power farm…
Where can you find a good special prosecutor when you need one, or five…
[note: released from moderation. –Stashiu]
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/17/2011 @ 8:25 pmWait just a minute, I see a post authored by me with #97 in front of it, but at the top it says there are 96 posts, and I am not listed on the scroll at the top right…
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/17/2011 @ 8:29 pmthat happened to me tonight too for no reason Mr. MD I think it’s just a thing
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 8:32 pmthey’re out to get us, feets
here is what I said:
97.OK, maybe this is a bit off of the original topic but OWS is closer than some of the discussion-
I heard Rush today make reference to this article:
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-11/news/30265911_1_loan-guarantee-wind-farm-solyndra
I know nothing about the reputation of the Business Insider, so if it is the National Enquirer of business news, please forgive
Seems the location of OWS is privately owned… ultimately by the same people who just got a ton of money from the federal govt to subsidize a…wind power farm…
Where can you find a good special prosecutor when you need one, or five…
Comment by MD in Philly — 10/17/2011 @ 8:25 pm
[note: released from moderation. –Stashiu]
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:02 pm100.they’re out to get us, feets
i tried to copy and paste and the cyberspace ate it again
the site where the OWS is taking place is privately owned land, owned by a company that also just received a big grant from the govt for a wind mill farm
uh oh, knocking at the door,
it’s 3 days of the Condor again (without Faye Dunaway, though)
I heard about it from the guy in charge of the EIB network
if you go to his site you can find a link to a business mag
hopefully this will get through the filter
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:08 pmBANG!!!!
There went the door, nice knowin’ ya………….
Mr. Rush is all we have for a media anymore
no offense but that’s not America
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:15 pmWhat does Lady Dada think of the GOP 2012 field?
DohBiden (d54602) — 10/17/2011 @ 9:30 pmhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66226.html
ian cormac (0fc95f) — 10/18/2011 @ 5:07 amI know, deep down I shouldnt ask this… but…..
Dohbiden – who is Lady Dada
EricPWJohnson (4380b4) — 10/18/2011 @ 5:44 amJust a bit onj this Pew poll:
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2011/10/17/media-vs-obama-birth-new-campaign-2012-fairy-tale
If this story is correct, the Pew Poll is worth less than yesterday’s toilet paper.
Tyrconnell (f3ece6) — 10/18/2011 @ 6:32 amMaybe I’m missing it. Have you explained yet how FNC funded the Tea Party?
Gerald A (7d960d) — 10/18/2011 @ 6:32 amProf. Jacobson at Legal Insurrection has compliled the numbers nationwide at 190 locations and totals, with generous rounding to the median, the representatives of the 99% at 70K.
Faux News reports, you decide.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 10/18/2011 @ 7:01 amThis is the link you were pondering, MD:
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2011/10/hmmm-owners-of-zuccotti-park-recently.html
ian cormac (0fc95f) — 10/18/2011 @ 7:10 am103. Running Amerikkka’s Hope to her appointed rounds–and who at 3 1/2 knows two languages better than Haiku knows his first(last night while playing ‘Baby Seal’ in the tub her retort to some proscription was “Talk to the flippers”)–I listen to the radio heads.
Rush is a polemic god compared to anyone you can name, pokey.
gary gulrud (d88477) — 10/18/2011 @ 7:11 amI don’t ever listen myself personally … we have people for that
happyfeet (3c92a1) — 10/18/2011 @ 7:30 amI was reading way upstream about media sycophants and I can’t help noting the absurdity of MSNBC running the White House Soup of the Day as a daily feature as well as the President’s offical schedule. And how can I not forget Blonde Mika reading White House texts sent to her live. Too incompetent to handle the talking points without prodding, self evidently.
I suppose it’s possible FNC did all that during the Bush years. But I never saw it. They provided a receptive audience to the Bushies positions, no question, but there wasn’t the ‘fanboy’ stuff like on MSNBC (and check out CNN’s American Morning, home of the ‘if Obama were a band would he be Radiohead or the Beatles’ question).
East Bay Jay (19f566) — 10/18/2011 @ 8:37 pm