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4/28/2016

John Boehner: Ted Cruz Is “Lucifer in the Flesh” While Trump Is My Golfing and Texting Buddy

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:58 pm

The Orange Brotherhood has to stick together:

Former House Speaker John Boehner isn’t buying Sen. Ted Cruz’s pitch to unite the Republican Party against Donald Trump.

In a talk at Stanford University Wednesday, the plainspoken Ohio Republican called the Texas senator “Lucifer in the flesh,” adding that he found Cruz difficult to work with in Congress.

“I have Democrat friends and Republican friends,” Boehner said, according to the Stanford Daily. “I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.

Cruz sparred with Boehner throughout his speakership over funding the government, most notably in 2013, when the government shut down for more than two weeks. Cruz’s allies in the House helped force Boehner out of Congress last year.

Boehner, an avid golfer, said he and 2016 front-runner Trump are “texting buddies,” and that they’ve played golf together over the years. He stopped short of endorsing his policies, but said he would vote for Trump in the general election if the New York businessman becomes the GOP nominee.

Good. Ted Cruz could not receive a greater gift this evening, in my view. John Boehner is gone from Congress, but his spirit lives on in its halls. John Boehner represents everything that is wrong with Congress. In a sane world, this should sew up Indiana for Cruz.

We’ll see what happens in the world we’re living in.

P.S. Boehner was lying about having “worked with” Cruz. Cruz knocked that down in a press conference. Start watching around 13:10:

In a nutshell, Cruz says he has barely ever spoken to Boehner except to exchange pleasantries, and that Boehner refused to talk to Cruz and Mike Lee during the “shutdown.” Cruz makes the point that Boehner is really upset at the people who wanted their Congressmen to make a real effort to defund ObamaCare. (It is worth noting that, as Mike Lee notes in his book The Lost Constitution, the defund effort came on the heels of Obama unconstitutionally rewriting provisions of the law to benefit Democrats politically. If Obama was going to be held accountable for his actions, it would have to be through the power of the purse. The need to check Obama’s unconstitutional rewriting of the law is a point rarely made when the “shutdown” is discussed.) It is worth watching Cruz at length, since (for people who prize rationality and logic) he is incredibly effective.

P.P.S. If you’re a couch potato who likes him some teevee and wants to be entertained and gets bored by policy talk, go ahead and skip Cruz’s response. You’re likely a Trumpkin anyway and impervious to rational argument.

85 Responses to “John Boehner: Ted Cruz Is “Lucifer in the Flesh” While Trump Is My Golfing and Texting Buddy”

  1. All is lost. We live in an insane world.

    Dejectedhead (787359)

  2. I would suggest that Boehner wasn’t exactly “lying” about “working with Ted Cruz”,
    To the degree that Cruz and company made Boehner’s behavior be held to account, I think he could put it that way,
    But I raise that as a side issue to be dispensed with,
    Don’t make a point of “Boehner lying”,
    Make a point, as Cruz does, as to why Boehner can’t stand him.

    These guys keep stumbling over themselves to say and do what is an admission against interest because they still don’t see what they have wrought.

    It’s sort of like John Carey in “Liar, Liar”, the truth keeps spilling out in odd ways.

    As said elsewhere, are Pence and Daniels going to sit on the fence, or have they already lost the respect of the people?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  3. Pence would not be helpful to Ted, a friend up thereaways, notes how he doesn’t acknowledge daniel’s achievement taking them as his own, somewhat similar to the way, parnell dismantled everything the huntress toiled for in three years, the ACES tax scale, the AGIA pipeline
    Daniels has his hands full dealing with the harpies that hover over purdue,

    narciso (732bc0)

  4. Frankly, I consider what Boehner said to be the best and most effective endorsement Cruz has received this entire campaign. Cruz really should send Boehner a thank you card, and probably a nice barrel of whiskey.

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  5. Bets that the Boehners and Kings want Trump because they look good in comparison? Whereas Cruz sets a standard they’ll never be able to meet?

    nk (dbc370)

  6. 4. …Cruz really should send Boehner a thank you card, and probably a nice barrel of whiskey.

    Arizona CJ (da673d) — 4/28/2016 @ 6:37 pm

    Sending Boehner a barrel of whiskey as a thank-you gift would be a waste of time and money as Boehner would never remember it after he drained it dry.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  7. Neil Bush joins Cruz’s team: SEE!!!! I TOLD YOU HE WAS GOPE!!!!
    John Boehner says Cruz is the Devil and is texting buddies with Trump:

    I’ve already seen Trumpers spin this in two ways: 1) It means nothing that they are texting buddies because TRUMP and 2) See! Cruz wouldn’t be able to get anything down because everybody hates him, and you need someone who can make deals.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (61d045)

  8. Kudos to Lee for defending Cruz.

    In contrast, where are cowards Mike Pence and Mitch Daniels? I won’t quite group them with traitors Jeff Sessions, Piss Pistie or Sarah “Now I’m Just Like the SNL Version” Palin, but their refusal (unlike Scott Walker) to take sides against Trump, whom you KNOW they oppose, in a critical primary is disqualifying for any higher office or appointment. Cowards.

    Mitch (bfd5cd)

  9. Listening to Lee talking to Levin from Dana’s post right now.

    Great stuff. Is the time about right for my review of his book The Lost Constitution?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  10. Ted Cruz isn’t Lucifer, he’s CIA.

    ropelight (db17ed)

  11. Without specific incidents, how can I believe Boehner? What I’d like to know is what specifically did Ted Cruz do for Boehner to say:

    “I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

    I’ve got a feeling that whatever Ted Cruz did is something that I’d agree with.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)

  12. It’s time Patterico.

    njrob (a07d2e)

  13. there’s a high lillian hellman bar, where are the telltale tweets.

    narciso (732bc0)

  14. I expect the spin will be “See, the GOPe is turning on Ted finally!”

    They live in the now. Like my cat. Oh, wait, my cat holds grudges.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  15. What the hell is Boehner thinking? I thought he wanted to be a well-paid Washington DC insider in retirement. Why would he pick a fight with the conservative wing of the GOP, and why would he piss off the guys backing the frontrunner by tarring their candidate with the politics-as-usual crowd? Does he really think that the Dems will want to cut deals with him once he is a lobbyist? I doubt that’s gonna happen. They never liked him, and they aren’t going to do him any favors now. He just really pissed in the soup with this move.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  16. it doesn’t really make sense, except that garfield,@ is a the mirror image of the wet tories across the pond,

    narciso (732bc0)

  17. Boehner’s attack on Cruz clearly evidences just how much Cruz was able to get under his skin, exposing both Boehner’s and the GOP’s utter corruption. Boehner loathes Cruz because his exposing the corruption of the GOP elites is in great part, why the party is so polarized. Of course, had Boehner and friends not been such greedy whores, there would have been nothing there for Cruz to expose.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  18. Cruz says he’s never worked with Boehner? Hmnn… Never? Never ever?

    Hmnn. I fully expect Pat will Cruz’splain away what he’d never do for anyone else! LOL
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980602&slug=2754000

    School Marm (f96753)

  19. Further, it’s interesting to note that Boehner also said that it would be over his dead body that Cruz would become president. I don’t think he’s just being dramatic. He’s actively working to prevent Cruz from winning.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  20. Hell, Cruz doesn’t KNOW the man! hahahahaha!

    School Marm (f96753)

  21. You’re right that there is an explanation:

    The Cruz campaign, though, on Thursday stood by the senator’s comments about not knowing Boehner.

    Press secretary Catherine Frazier said: “He was a junior associate and his involvement didn’t extend beyond assisting with briefs and attending meetings with [Boehner’s] staff.”

    If Boehner can disprove it, and show that he hired Lucifer as his lawyer, I’m sure he will.

    My money’s on Cruz.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  22. Oh no!! They might have known each other nearly twenty years ago!! That’s so much worse than being texting and golfing buddies!!! Stupid GOPe!!

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (619a9f)

  23. “They might have” but did not. There is not a shred of evidence that they did, despite the headlines you’re seeing on the Trumpeter sites.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  24. “He was a junior associate and his involvement didn’t extend beyond assisting with briefs and attending meetings with [Boehner’s] staff.”

    And speaking to the media, apparently.

    But hey — who am I to say that a signed representation agreement isn’t “working” with someone?

    School Marm (f96753)

  25. Hey, c’mon now Patrick Henry. I thought what people did and said 20 years ago is fair game, right? Or is that only for Trump? LOL

    School Marm (f96753)

  26. Patterico (86c8ed) — 4/28/2016 @ 9:15 pm

    That was sarcasm if you didn’t pick up on it. It’s funny how the Trumpsters focus on something that happened twenty years ago, like this Marm character, and totally ignore the much more recent past.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (619a9f)

  27. Just as long as you fellas admit you bend over backwards for Cruz… LOL
    I’m sure it’s all the Seattle Times fault that it called Cruz Boehner’s attorney, and that there was never any signed representation agreement that would never stand up in court as that “shred” of evidence Pat says isn’t there.

    School Marm (f96753)

  28. Give Cruz a pass on this one. If he encountered Boehner at some time in the past you can’t really blame him for putting it out of his mind. I’d wanna forgetaboutit too.

    ropelight (db17ed)

  29. Hey, c’mon now Patrick Henry. I thought what people did and said 20 years ago is fair game, right? Or is that only for Trump? LOL

    School Marm (f96753) — 4/28/2016 @ 9:17 pm

    Sure it’s fair game. But the evidence that twenty years ago they barely knew each other. And twenty years ago Trump was a hard core liberal.

    Recently, Trump and one of the heads of “GOPe” are texting and golfing buddies, while Cruz was fighting the establishment. Also recently Trump was a liberal donating to Clinton and Reid, and Cruz was a hard core conservative.

    Far past or recent past, it’s the same- Trump is a liberal establishment man and Cruz is a conservative anti-establishment man.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (619a9f)

  30. Ropelight, I can give the pass. Because I’m cool like that. But technically, it’s a lie, and I’d submit one that Cruz told intentionally. That story was a pretty big one at the time. Maybe some enterprising searcher of PACER would like to search the court documents and see if the original trial court briefs have Cruz’s name on them. Regardless, I don’t think it’s bloody likely a lawyer would EVER forget that he played a part — even a small one — in successfully suing a longtime powerful House democrat on illegally distributing an illegally intercepted private conversation.

    I think even Patterico would agree with me on this one.

    School Marm (f96753)

  31. What I’m trying to convey is that this ain’t no big thing. You can be acquainted with John Boehner and not know him. This is just another gotcha issue and it’s being blown up into a tempest in a teapot. The presidential selection process is too serious to be tainted by chickensh*t nonsense.

    Let’s get about picking the best man to lead the GOP against the forces of darkness, and quit sweating the small stuff.

    ropelight (db17ed)

  32. Hey, c’mon now Patrick Henry. I thought what people did and said 20 years ago is fair game, right? Or is that only for Trump? LOL

    Twenty years ago Cruz was a 25 year old associate at a law firm. Twenty years ago your guy was a 49 year old beauty pageant promoter. Make of that what you will.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  33. Cruz says he’s never worked with Boehner? Hmnn… Never? Never ever?

    Hmnn. I fully expect Pat will Cruz’splain away what he’d never do for anyone else! LOL
    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19980602&slug=2754000

    School Marm (f96753) — 4/28/2016 @ 9:03 pm

    So, you Trumpanzees have not a shred of evidence that Cruz ever met Boehner. But on the other hand you have plenty of evidence, you are eager to present evidence, that Boehner is eager and willing to slander a lawyer who was associated with a lawfirm that did what Boehner hired it to do. Win a lawsuit.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21931-2004Aug21.html

    A federal judge has sided with Rep. John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) in his six-year lawsuit against Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) over an illegally recorded telephone call

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9946755

    Court Settles Fight Between Boehner, McDermott

    May 1, 20074:00 PM ET
    Heard on All Things Considered

    The D.C. Circuit Appeals Court resolved a lawsuit stemming from a decade-old political battle between two lawmakers: Republican John Boehner of Ohio and Democrat James McDermott of Washington. The court said McDermott broke a law when he gave an illegally intercepted phone recording to The New York Times

    So, let’s review. Evidence Cruz and Boehner met during this evolution? None whatsoever. I’ve hired lawfirms to do legal work on my behalf in the course of my business dealings and I never met everyone who actually did the work.

    On the other hand, Evidence you Trumptards are the vicious, nasty, LIV, Low IQ knuckledraggers we non-Trumptards think you are? Tons. We can’t stop you from making the point. You idiots actually think it makes you look good to slander someone who if anything did a good job as part of Boehner’s legal team.

    It doesn’t. You’re just scum.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  34. 30. Regardless, I don’t think it’s bloody likely a lawyer would EVER forget that he played a part — even a small one — in successfully suing a longtime powerful House democrat on illegally distributing an illegally intercepted private conversation.

    I think even Patterico would agree with me on this one.

    School Marm (f96753) — 4/28/2016 @ 9:32 pm

    You’re an idiot. Next time save the bandwith and just say “I don’t think” and forego your clueless musings about how you imagined things work, but don’t in reality.

    The sheer idiocy on display irks me. Hillary! claims she hired attorney David Kendall to review all her emails to review them and determine if they were work related or personal. Does anyone imagine that David Kendall personally reviewed those tens of thousands of emails? Only if, like School Marm, you have the IQ of a fruit fly. Does anyone imagine Hillary! ever met the underlings, the paralegals or junior attorneys, who actually did the work (work they were not cleared to do). Again, only if you have the intelligence of School Marm and/or a primitive form of insect.

    All this Trumptardian triumphalism demonstrates is, we still don’t have an answer to the question, “How stupid are the Trumpanzees?”

    I’m going to have to paraphrase Einstein as I don’t have the exact quote in front of him. Basically, he said as far as he knew only two things were infinite. Human stupidity and the universe. And, he added, he still wasn’t quite sure about the universe.

    I recall a contract dispute I was having with a landlord. My lawyer told me in passing that he had asked his daughter to do some work on the case. She was an accomplished attorney in her own right. I never met her, but she wrote a large chunk of my brief. I did talk to her once on the phone when I called her dad, who was the guy I actually hired. But I never effin’ met her and I couldn’t pick her out of a police line-up. And the gist of the conversation was, “Please tell Larry to call me.”

    You Trumptards are handicapped because your Messiah flatters you by saying you’re of normal or above average intelligence. You’re not. The rest of us can see through it.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  35. @35, who has lost yet?

    What I have trouble with is the Trumpsters who think it’s their patriotic duty to pour lighter fluid on the Constitution. Because, as Hoagie helpfully informs me @200 on this thread,…

    http://patterico.com/2016/04/28/trumps-appeal-explained-again/#comment-1880260

    …as far as they’re concerned it was all lost long ago.

    Not as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure not going to speed the process along.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  36. Boehner is a squish-squish squishy fool. His notoriety for crying jags at the spur of the moment apparently is a reflection of his proneness to being a bleeding heart. That has to be the reason he’s demonizing Cruz to such a ridiculous, nonsensical extent.

    The former speaker must resent the type of Republican who’s non-teary-eyed and staunchly conservative. Resentful towards such people because — in his eyes — they’re big meanies, so unkind, so much the killjoys due to their stemming an increasingly amoral, left-leaning, soft-headed America.

    Mark (fb60e8)

  37. At least I understood the infatuation with Obama.

    I don’t get Trumphilia. In the beginning I thought I did, but now that we’ve lived with him all these months and have a much clearer picture of Trump the man(man-child), I no longer get it. Is it merely celebrity worship?

    Thanks for the video. Cruz did a remarkable job dissecting Shorty and his myriad weaknesses and deceptions.

    ThOR (a52560)

  38. 40. “I don’t get Trumphilia.”

    Nationalism.

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/28/2016 @ 11:32 pm

    Precisely. That’s what’s wrong with the Trumptards.

    42. P.S. He understands that nations are blood and will, not pieces of paper with magic words printed on them.

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/28/2016 @ 11:36 pm

    The idea that nations are “blood and will” has a very strong early to mid 20th century flavor to it which my family has given a great deal of “blood and will” to combat. No matter; the bottom line is if you think nations are about “blood and will” then you have, absolutely and unquestionably, rejected the founding principles of this country. Which was founded on the Enlightenment idea that nations could be based upon universal truths, such as, “All men are created equal.”

    Thank you, Mr. Sh*tferbrains “Strength Through Joy” Trumptard for confirming I have your number.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  39. …not pieces of paper with magic words printed on them

    So, tell me. Why am I supposed to be worried about Hillary! shredding the Constitution and not Donald “Blood and will” Trump?

    Bicurious in Seattle; I’m not seeing the selling point.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  40. 46. …Except that isn’t a truth; it’s the antithesis of a truth.

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/29/2016 @ 12:21 am

    I really appreciate the help. I’ve been trying to inform fence-sitters like Hoagie that the Trumpanzees are just as authoritarian and contemptuous of the founding principles of this country is the Clintonistas.

    Your enthusiastic participation in the effort could turn out to be just what I need to convince them.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  41. Trump loves his country and his people, Steve.

    Don't Worry: Trump Won't Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369)

  42. 49. Why am I supposed to be worried about Hillary! shredding the Constitution and not Donald “Blood and will” Trump?

    The constitution is the wrong question. The correct question is who will lead well.

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/29/2016 @ 12:24 am

    Exactly. Any good Leninist-Stalinist could tell you that. Constitution-monstritution. All you need is a good vozhd, a strong and ruthless absolute ruler, and then hand that ruler all power.

    I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  43. 52. Trump loves his country and his people, Steve.

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/29/2016 @ 12:27 am

    That’s the tricky part, isn’t it? Trying to figure out which wannabe dictator considers us part of “his” or “her” country and “his” or “her” people.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  44. It’s Cruz, or it’s Over.

    “Have fun storming the castle”

    firefirefire (933c5b)

  45. Well, he seems to love African Americans, Jews, whites, Hispanics, soldiers, veterans, people who need public health services, women, men, and so on and so forth, getting along with both Republicans and Democrats.

    His foreign policy speech left it exceedingly clear that, while he had very kind words for allies such as Israel, he believes it’s America first, both as a country and as American citizens vs. others. It seems pretty clear to me that by “Americans” he means Americans.

    Don't Worry: Trump Won't Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369)

  46. Key words, “He seems to.” If you’re gong to “onhe seems to” from wannabe dictator to for realz dictator the kind of sincerity Trump is faking to convince that list of people is exactly the kind of sincerity you need to impersonate to get to the next level.

    Not everyone can do it. See Gov. Cuomo and how pro-lifers, pro-Second Amendment enthusiasts, and hetero marriage folk have no place in New York for recent examples.

    Just saying. Just because these NY libs are willing to fake it doesn’t obligate me to have to play the fool and let them make it.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  47. Yeah. Skynet became self aware. It should have read:

    If you’re gong to go from wannabe dictator to for realz dictator the kind of sincerity Trump is faking to convince that list of people is exactly the kind of sincerity you need to impersonate to get to the next level.

    The cut, copy, and/or paste thingy wasn’t my doing.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  48. Gong = going. Sheeit.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  49. Key words, “He seems to.”

    Well, yes, and that’s a good starting point. Also, he’s had several minority and female people he’s worked with in the past say he isn’t racist or sexist. There was that thing with the country club where he didn’t want blacks or Jews excluded. He has Jewish family members, including a daughter. While he has an America First policy, he had strong words of friendship and respect for Israel.

    Maybe he’s got us all fooled, but I think he just wants to lead and help his people: Americans. He’s vying for the job and following the process to get it. I don’t think he’s Hitler.

    Don't Worry: Trump Won't Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369)

  50. Chistoph’s baaaack!

    nk (dbc370)

  51. 62. …Maybe he’s got us all fooled…

    There’s no maybe about it, Mr.”Blood and will” (comma) “Strength through Joy” Trumpanzee.

    …..but I think he just wants to lead and help his people…

    Don’t Worry: Trump Won’t Set Up a Heriditary Monarchy. Promise! (316369) — 4/29/2016 @ 1:14 am

    And when did Trump acquire a controlling ownership interest in “his” people?

    Steve57 (52b365)

  52. Christoph, the fat, short-fingered, shaven-headed Canadian squirrel: Stay out of our election!

    nk (dbc370)

  53. Aww, jeezus, it’s beyond my wildest dreams. You’re making my point by citing Pat Buchanan, Mr. “Blood and Will” (comma) “Strength through Joy” Trumpkin!

    More than anything else, Trump is simply an old-school Republican.

    Yes. Of course. “Old school Republican” just like Buchanan teaming up with socialist Fulani.

    Clearly you are nutz. Clearly, I can use that. Trump is just an “old school Republican” whose only hope EVAH! was to get together with a socialist on the ticket. So, again, why wouldn’t former Perot party candy-date invite Sanders to join his ticket?

    Answer: no reason because Trump is a political sl*t as are his voters.

    It’s going to be hard to add to my contempt for you, Mr. “Blood and will” (comma) “Strength through Joy” but if I were a betting man I’d lay money on the fact you’re the one guy who could do it.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  54. NAFTA was a lousy deal. In running up $4 trillion in trade surpluses since Bush I, the Chinese have been eating our lunch.

    Chinese trade surpluses are the result of the North American Free Trade Agreement?

    Gerald A (945582)

  55. I’ve already seen Trumpers spin this in two ways: 1) It means nothing that they are texting buddies because TRUMP and 2) See! Cruz wouldn’t be able to get anything down because everybody hates him, and you need someone who can make deals.

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (61d045) — 4/28/2016 @ 7:02 pm

    The theme of the moment is that Trump’s a fighter. The GOPe stuff is so last week.

    Gerald A (945582)

  56. What Made John Boehner Mad Is That I Led A Movement Of People To Hold Washington Accountable””

    that would certainly piss me off is I was trying to get the establishment to cozy up to Obuma

    Joe - From Texas (debac0)

  57. No that was due to the wto, Garfield is an ungrateful cur, like mildea was with starr, and armitage was with libby, who saved his bacon when Perot and the Christies were labeling him.

    narciso (d8c19d)

  58. It doesn’t help that Ted Cruz answers with a provable lie. Documented with his signature.

    No Ted. You do know John Boehner. It’s documented he was his lawyer, in the famous case of Democrat operatives bugging Newt Gingrich.

    How are my self appointed betters not disturbed that their candidate, when faced with a minor problem (and let’s face it Boehner calling you the Devil is campaign gold if you have principles and your heart in the right place) and his reflex is to resort to lying?

    There ain’t nobody to blame. He shot himself in the foot. Own goal. Derp.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  59. You know how many lawsuits reach high enough to peek out of my subconscious?

    Not many I assure you. And yet even I, slack jawed and slope headed unrepentant Trump supporter, visiting from the great unwashed side of the internet, even I remember the case which Cruz claims no recollection of.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  60. I’m not willing to call Ted Cruz a liar based on his response to the odious John Boehner’s slander. I’ve listened to what Cruz actually said and I don’t believe there’s enough there there to indict him for prevarication.

    Trump calls him Lyin’ Ted and it’s tempting to pile-on and extend the narrative, but in this case, it’s a reach and thus uncalled for. Let’s continue to occupy the high ground.

    ropelight (6b9125)

  61. Papertiger,
    Are you going to tell us because Cruz was involved in a case where Boehner was also somehow involved that means that they “worked together” and “know each other”?

    As I said before when I thought P was pushing it when he said Boehner lied.

    I am willing to grant both Boehner and Cruz their respective versions,
    They never worked directly together to have a personal relationship,
    They did work on mutual issues in the fed legislature so were on the same or different sides of debates/issues/conflicts.

    A side issue distracting from the main issue,
    Boehner sees Cruz as the enemy, more so than Obama, more so than Trump.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  62. I try to think as little of Garfield as possible, his emissary Pete sessions has been an obstacle, now hasn’t Ryan behaved much the same in sotto voce

    narciso (d8c19d)

  63. If Cruz were nimble he could have answered, “Well sure Boehner would say that. I was out front, bugling the charge that got him fired.”

    But naw. He doesn’t know him.

    Let’s analyse. Ted Cruz jumps out in front to end the speakership of someone of his fellow party members, that he doesn’t know?

    How does that speak well of Ted Cruz’s character?

    Explain it to me.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  64. School Marm’s and papertiger’s comments remind me of the time a young lady told Winston Churchill “Mr. Churchill, I like neither your politics nor your moustache” and Winston Churchill answered: “Suck my dick, you silly bint.”

    nk (dbc370)

  65. well how does that who song go again ‘down with the old boss, same as the new’ what has changed under ryan, much as with cameron across the pond, pushing every button to remain in the eu, I look at wider patterns,

    narciso (732bc0)

  66. Maybe a different song,
    I thought it was
    Meet the new boss,
    Same as the old boss…

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  67. well that’s the sentiment anyways, romney evinced little understanding of the adversary we are dealing.

    narciso (732bc0)

  68. Agreed

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  69. If Trump is the nominee the GOP should die. And be buried deep in a toxic waste disposal site.

    nk (dbc370)

  70. romney evinced little understanding of the adversary we are dealing.

    Not totally sure what’s behind that, at least in various instances involving certain people.

    In some cases, I think it’s because people really aren’t that bothered by the direction of the country. Squishes like Romney or similarly strange hybrids like Peggy Noonan or folks who don’t believe the thing now in the Oval Office was the worst candidate in our lifetime, may be more come-see-come-saw about what I perceive as an increasingly corrosive, debased form of liberalism infusing every facet of society.

    The current occupant of the White House rates better in opinion polls than his predecessor did, and in other polls, during the sequester, for example, not him but the Congress (which generally leans right) was held largely responsible for the temporary shutdown. Before and since then, the Congress has has been graded more negatively than Jeremiah Wright’s former buddy.

    Current polls indicate younger Americans are more down on capitalism and more up on socialism than ever before.

    Combine all these trends together and the one phrase that comes to mind is “this will not end well.”

    Mark (fb60e8)

  71. Let’s analyse. Ted Cruz jumps out in front to end the speakership of someone of his fellow party members, that he doesn’t know?

    How does that speak well of Ted Cruz’s character?

    Explain it to me.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 4/29/2016 @ 7:26 am

    There’s nothing in there that says Cruz was involved in ending Boehner’s speakership. Nor do I understand how he would need to know Boehner in any way to oppose him.

    I don’t see where you are any different than some people Pat has banned. Even happyfeet, though he can be grating, doesn’t lie repeatedly.

    Gerald A (945582)

  72. School Marm’s and papertiger’s comments remind me of the time a young lady told Winston Churchill … .”

    NK’s comment reminds me of how I felt the day Bo Jackson got his hip blown out. I’m going to consider it in that light.

    Imagining Boner calling Trump the great Satan.
    Trump at a rally in California addressing the fans, “John Boehner? He’s just upset that his membership card at Trump golf courses has been revoked. Hold on a minute. I’m calling Boehner at home.”
    …bring,…bring…
    “Hello?”
    “Hello John. Lucifer calling. Time’s up on that soul you sold me to get the Speakership.”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  73. Gerald. You find it unreasonable to have at least an interview with a colleague, his office just down the hall, before you join take the lead in {sorry dude. I re-read the article. He was definitely leading the charge.) his ouster?

    What a type you must consort with.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  74. Winston Churchill was the guest of honor at a Buckingham Palace cocktail party when the Duchess of Windsor whispered to him that his fly was down.

    Winston reassured her there was no cause to worry – that a dead bird could not fall from the nest.

    ropelight (6b9125)

  75. Trump is the nominee the GOP should die. And be buried deep in a toxic waste disposal site.

    nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2016 @ 7:58 am

    ===========================================

    Yes, by all means, let’s turn the whole GD enterprise over to the left, we’ve nothing to lose.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  76. Col – that is exactly what is happening if we nominate Trump. A choice between a lifelong Dem and a lifelong Dem.

    JD (34f761)

  77. I’m ANGRY!

    nk (dbc370)

  78. That’s ARG. It had Trump up by double digits in Wisconsin. I continue to believe Cruz wins in Indiana.

    Patterico (25d394)

  79. Appreciate the agreement on the one point, even though I expect a close race in IN, and hope for a sig Cruz victory

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  80. Further to JD’s last, if we elect Trump we have no reason to exist. At least not as an opposition party because as the caller to Rush so unintentionally illustrated he doesn’t give a rat’s @$$ about opposing 80% of what the leftists want to do.

    Voting for Trump isn’t some kind of rebellion. It’s surrender. He’s the best on-the-take NYC establishment leftist who can win, so y’all are rabid to settle on him.

    Pls. see Hoagies “insightful” comments about how the reality of the world is that the system is stacked and corrupt AND we just need to accept it.

    http://patterico.com/2016/04/28/trumps-appeal-explained-again/#comment-1880260

    I hate to tell you Steve57 but you’re way too late. We already have an all powerful central government. They have the power to make you buy Obamacare, buy the light bulbs and toilets they decree, pay for Solyndra and now they have decreed by law there are more than two sexes. Trump ay not be the answer Steve57 but he sure wasn’t the cause. The status quo was the cause and Trump ain’t no status quo…

    Trump is the foookin’ status quo. Voting for him is like settling for which candidate promises to use a finer grit sandpaper condom on you.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  81. Bye Christoph.

    Patterico (25d394)

  82. I’m curious, Pat. Will I get a warning via email or will you just say “Bye” to me on a comment thread?

    Because I can see how my comments can be considered to have crossed a line. And my only defense is I reached the end of my rope with these Trumpanzees, ordered some paracord from Cabela’s and tied that on, then when I reached the end of that I went to Home Depot and bought some twine.

    I am fresh out of twine, Pat.

    Steve57 (52b365)

  83. Typically, switching up handles is a quick way to get banned.

    It’s a policy that forces people to consider the effects of words on reputation

    Leviticus (6ea25f)

  84. banned like a library book in texas

    happyfeet (831175)

  85. one of my new blue stater chicago friends just sent me this

    god bless mother-effing america these people and their stupid whimsies

    happyfeet (831175)


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