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4/12/2016

Hillary Race Joke? Trumpers Can’t Figure Out Rules? Transgender Bathroom Rules? A Smorgasbord!

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It happened on Saturday night when Mrs. Clinton made a surprise visit to the Inner Circle dinner, an annual black-tie event that brings together the city’s press corps, lobbyists and lawmakers. She strode onstage with Mr. de Blasio and Leslie Odom Jr., the actor who plays Aaron Burr in the hit musical “Hamilton.”

“Thanks for the endorsement, Bill,” Mrs. Clinton said to Mr. de Blasio, a former aide to Mrs. Clinton when she was a senator from New York who nonetheless dallied in supporting her. “Took you long enough.”

“Sorry, Hillary,” Mr. de Blasio said. “I was running on C.P. time,” a reference to the stereotype “Colored People Time,” which drew some cringes from the audience.

Mr. Odom, who is black and appeared to be in on the joke, interrupted: “That’s not — I don’t like jokes like that, Bill.”

Mrs. Clinton jumped in. “Cautious politician time. I’ve been there,” she said.

I found myself shocked by this story. I didn’t know Aaron Burr was black! Turning to my Partisan Handbook, under the chapter How to Handle Things Your Opponent Does That Really Aren’t That Bad, I see the heading Ask What Would Happen If Your Side Did It. But I can’t bring myself to turn to that page. Next!

Two of Trump’s kids won’t be voting for him in New York on account of they didn’t register Republican in time. I guess I could embed the Nelson “Ah ha!” video again . . . can’t muster the energy. Next!

Something about a Trump supporter in Colorado upset about being screwed by The Process, only he wasn’t, he just didn’t understand the rules. Cute; Mollie Hemingway does a great job at the link; tie-in to Trump kids’ story; metaphor obvious . . . Maybe I’m just sleepy, but this is all boring me. Next!

Bruce Springsteen won’t play in North Carolina on account of a bathroom law that doesn’t allow guys pretending to be transgender to be peeping toms, or something. Bryan Adams follows suit in Mississippi; Internet wags point out that Adams regularly does shows in Arab countries where women and gays fare somewhat worse than even Mississippi. I can almost get fired up about this one, imagining the lifelong Bruce fan who scored him some front row tickets to the concert of a lifetime and probably hates the law too, being screwed because the Working Class Hero has turned so reflexively leftist that making empty political points matters more than the fans.

Yup, it’s not getting better than that. The post is already long anyway. We’re going out strong with this one.

They’re day-old stories for the most part but I was out last night. What do you want from me? (Thanks for the meal, happyfeet! It was delicious, and better than pancakes.)

173 Responses to “Hillary Race Joke? Trumpers Can’t Figure Out Rules? Transgender Bathroom Rules? A Smorgasbord!”

  1. Ding

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Topic 1:
    For the umpteenth time, “it’s not racism when we do it.”

    Topic 2:
    Apples falling from trees.

    Topic 3:
    Paying customers are not a protected class, especially when they are predominately white and racist and…

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  3. Greetings:

    Having grown up in the Bronx of the ’50s and ’60s, Mr. Springsteen’s songs certainly resonated with me. Having watched a large borough (2 million population) of a then very large city being given the Dresden-lite treatment, I was initially very susceptible to the working-class bathos that he and his persona purveyed. I still have his early LPs and enjoy them from time to time. His art was a new voice in the rock world and, for me, it was exceptionally well done as I had been lamenting the absence of saxophones in rock for quite a while.

    Many years later I received one of those dreaded 3-CD boxed sets of some of his live performances from 1973-1985 and he pretty much spilled out all his politics in his mandatory monologues. Apparently, his very early Dylan-esque proclivities had blossomed in a way not apparent in his studio work. So, I’m not very surprised that he would take advantage of this gender disphoria opportunity to do more of what I think he pretty much always wanted to do artistically and politically.

    Back when I took a mandatory sociology course during my first attempt at a college education, I was introduced to the concept of the “reference group”. Even though one may be born into a working-class culture, one can have a much different “reference group” that influences one’s behavior or even one’s art. However excellent Mr. Springsteen is at creating and performing his working-class paens, as he revealed in one of his monologues, he has long “wanted it all”. His Working Class Heroism is but a personna whether he knows it or not.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  4. 1a. I would have said Greek time.
    1b. Why should the Mayor of New York care what some song-and-dance actor likes?
    1c. I saw a bi-racial version of “Desire Under The Elms”. Historical fiction is still fiction. And a musical to boot?
    2. Trumpkins!
    3. If you want my money and you think you’re something
    Come and play a song for me
    If I really like you, I might pay to hear you
    Or just stay home and watch TV

    nk (dbc370)

  5. One of the greatest sins of the Baby Boomers is elevating the status of low-life trash entertainers, whether musicians, actors, dancers, or clowns (with or without make-up) to “celebrities”. Give me a break. Our more sensible ancestors made them dress in motley with bells on their heads and if they were pleasing enough would give them some scraps from the table. After the dogs were fed.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. nk, I have heard that there is an old, old hotel in LA that has a sign from the 1920s: no actors or prostitutes allowed.

    It continues to amaze me that my freshmen (and some of my colleagues) don’t know who Norman Borlaug is, but everyone knows the Kardashians.

    This is why extraterrestrials don’t visit. Our lunacy might be contagious.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  7. i know who Norman is he did the green revolution on people to where produce is plentiful and allowed foodie culture to develop and thrive

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  8. Jazz is from Jasmine, a perfume favored by prostitutes in the brothels where jazz musicians plied their trade to entertain the “clients” waiting their turn.

    nk (dbc370)

  9. did you know popo are called coppers cause of that’s what their badges were made of

    it’s a true story i learned it from my uber driver

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  10. As then-Governor Pat Brown told a class full of first-graders when campaigning against the upstart Ronald Reagan, “…I’m running for reelection . . . and do you know who’s running against me? That actor, and remember, it was an actor who shot Abraham Lincoln.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  11. No! No it’s from the Latin capere “to capture” (and the root of “capture”).

    nk (dbc370)

  12. oh poop. I’m a have to give Mohammed a bad review now.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  13. I’m glad you do know, Mr. Feet, without looking it up.

    Just in case anyone needs to know, here are some links:

    Penn and Teller:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3XvjshUbOA&nohtml5=False

    A real documentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYUvt0f4qbE

    And for the hepcats out there:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRwo01maYqY

    I think about Borlaug pretty often, and ask myself what I have done to make the world better.

    No Kardashian, he.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  14. Not only is Springsteen a lefty tool, he performs loud enough to damage your hearing if you have the misfortune of sitting close to the stage.

    Colonel Haiku (7c41f2)

  15. The Democrats spend a lot of their time keeping black folks on the plantation. They call it D-time.

    Colonel Haiku (7c41f2)

  16. I’ve also heard that it’s from the copper London police helmets, so don’t be too hard on him.

    nk (dbc370)

  17. True enough, nk, about “copper.”

    These days, I think of Cicero:

    Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare

    Sad but true.

    Thanks as always, nk, for bringing the erudition.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  18. People who oppose GMOs such as Golden Rice are as bad as nazis. They want people to go blind and die, and for what?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  19. It’s fear over thought, Milhouse. Also Teh Narrative uber alles.

    Have you seen this?

    http://ascienceenthusiast.com/organic-farm-denies-dihydrogen-monoxide/

    Making fun of these people is not the answer. Education is. But education is degrading quickly, trust me.

    Also, imagine asking politicians these kinds of questions. Sigh..

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  20. I liked Springsteen when I was a 28-year old lawyer imagining I was a motorcycle-riding unemployed car mechanic with a promiscuous doper girlfriend. I got over it.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. On the subject of Cicero and historical fiction, could Cicero really write simultaneously with both hands in Greek and Latin* or did John Maddox Roberts just make it up?

    *President Garfield could, BTW.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. I didn’t know Aaron Burr was black!

    All the actors in Hamilton except, I think, for the actor playing George III, are black or Hispanic, and that is deliberate. IN advertising for understudies or replacements, they specifed that the actors, except for the part George III, could only be black or Hispanic, and some actors’ group complained. That’s seems to be part of the artistic effect, here. It’s a hip-hop musical, aftr all, and presumably it wouldn’t look hip hop, or strange, if the actors were white, although they can be white looking.

    Sammy Finkelman (2c707f)

  23. Two of Trump’s kids won’t be voting for him in New York on account of they didn’t register Republican in time

    That only shows the average person’s unawareness of the rules. In New Jersey they could have changed from independent to Republican till Wednesday, April 13, for the June 7, 2016 primary. But in New York State the deadline for changing party registration, for all primary elections through Tuesday, November 8, 2016, was Friday, October 9, 2015. And past the November election, it doesn’t take affect for another year. A person almost has to sit out an entire primary election to switch parties.

    Sammy Finkelman (2c707f)

  24. Well, still:

    https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/10156635018480725/

    Kind of hard to give her a pass on not registering in her own state, so she could vote for her own father. Right?

    Unless she secretly feels as I do…

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  25. Kind of hard to give her a pass on not registering in her own state, so she could vote for her own father. Right?

    If she hadn’t been registered at all, she could have done so until a few weeks ago, and put “Republican” as her party, and voted in the primary. The problem is that she did register to vote years ago, but not as a Republican, because at the time she had no idea she would ever want to vote in a R primary. In NY, all changes in party registration filed during a year take effect on the second Tuesday after 1-Nov, i.e. a week after that year’s general election. And the deadline for filing them is 25 days before the general election, i.e. early October. This is clearly explained on the voter registration form, but when she filled that out she probably ignored it because she thought she’d never need the information.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  26. Mental colossus hippie Bruce (Bruce?) Springsteen is boycotting the entire state of North Carolina because a law that affects a zero-statistical percent of the population with a weird sexual fetish won’t allow them to peep on their daughters while the poo and pee. And this is 50% of what the country is focusing on today.

    Waiter, check please…

    CrustyB (69f730)

  27. S*** like this is why we’re dealing with Trump, CrustyB. (It’s a meme, actually.) Can we get some more politicians to get the cojones to tell the perverts to FOAD? In a hole?

    nk (dbc370)

  28. Item 1: What is so amazing about that Hillary! and De Blasio video is what awful comic timing both of them have. I mean, I wasn’t expecting Martin & Lewis (which one of those blowhards would be the Jerry Lewis clown role?) or even Amos & Andy (see what I did there?), but the absolute wooden recitation of lines was surprising for politicians who are at least expected to be able to fake sincerity moderately well.

    Item 2: I think Powerline pointed out that Ivanka delivered a baby a few days after the NY registration deadline passed, so let’s cut her some slack and understand that she had other things on her mind the last week of March.

    Item 3: You know, any Springsteen fan over the age of 30 who hasn’t yet had a chance to go see him live probably isn’t that much of a fan to begin with. Any any Springsteen fan under the age of 30 is just weird, and is probably totally in favor of coed bathrooms already. (Disclosure: I like his music up until about 1992, after which it seems he became extra preachy and dull.)

    JVW (9e3c77)

  29. Item 2: I think Powerline pointed out that Ivanka delivered a baby a few days after the NY registration deadline passed, so let’s cut her some slack and understand that she had other things on her mind the last week of March.

    That was the deadline for new voters to register. Since she was surely already registered to vote, she had to switch parties by last October. And if she were really a Republican, rather than just switching so she could vote for her father, she should have done it long ago.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  30. …an annual black-tie event that brings together the city’s press corps, lobbyists and lawmakers.

    Why do they have to have an annual black tie dinner when this happens every day at city hall and Congress?

    Steve57 (99e913)

  31. JVW,

    As Milhouse said above, the deadline for NY registered voters to enroll in a party or to change parties so they could vote in the primary was October 9, 2015. As noted at the link:

    With the first debates of the 2016 campaign behind us, now is the time for voters to start preparing for New York’s presidential primary on April 19th.

    Too soon, you say? Common sense might agree with you, but not state election law. New York voters face an October 9 deadline to be eligible to cast a ballot in party primary elections next year. Any registered voter who currently is not enrolled in a party will not be able to participate in the primary elections next year if they miss this deadline. This applies to voters who leave the political party line blank or indicate that they do not wish to enroll in a party.

    ***

    Why is the deadline so early? New York’s election law requires voters to change their party enrollment prior to the registration deadline for the general election in November in the year preceding a primary election. The deadline also applies to the other party nominating contests that will be held in June and September for Congressional and state legislative offices, respectively.

    This provision forces many voters to make a critical choice in how they’ll vote well before many of them have had a chance to tune into the race. Republican candidates have held only two of the 11 debates they have scheduled and the Democratic candidates will debate for the first time on October 13, four days after the deadline.

    I think the Trump family was aware of Trump’s Presidential aspirations since he announced his candidacy in June 2015 and had already debated twice. But I blame this comedy on Trump. His children and his supporters should have gotten a reminder from the campaign, and clearly they didn’t.

    DRJ (15874d)

  32. My guess is that 2 of the 3 Trump children are registered Democrats. I get that. What choice do Republicans have in most NY primaries? Those New York values strike again.

    DRJ (15874d)

  33. I think the Trump family was aware of Trump’s Presidential aspirations since he announced his candidacy in June 2015 and had already debated twice. But I blame this comedy on Trump. His children and his supporters should have gotten a reminder from the campaign, and clearly they didn’t.

    It’s pretty obvious that everyone in that campaign is just winging it. Should we be surprised that there is no long-term planning going on there?

    JVW (9e3c77)

  34. Here are photos of the Trump family at the first debate in Cleveland in August 2015. Ivanka gave her first interview for the campaign on October 22, 2015, where she said she and her brothers were very busy running the Trump businesses while her father campaigned.

    Bad optics, Donald.

    DRJ (15874d)

  35. October 12, not October 22. Sorry.

    DRJ (15874d)

  36. I think this was a PR campaign to raise Trump’s profile and enhance his celebrity and money-making potential … and then he unexpectedly started winning. Trump’s motto could be “Never pass up an opportunity to make money.”

    People may crave reality in politics because they see it as honesty. If so, Trump might be the worst person in America and maybe the world to make that point.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. I think this was a PR campaign to raise Trump’s profile and enhance his celebrity and money-making potential … and then he unexpectedly started winning.

    You know, DRJ, sometimes I think this is true and sometimes I doubt it. He certainly has a talent for self-promotion, but I can’t imagine that his ego would have allowed him to enter this race unless he was set on winning it. But clearly he is a really complicated character that pedestrians like me probably could never fully understand.

    JVW (9e3c77)

  38. People may crave reality in politics because they see it as honesty.

    They had Carson for that. A person of superior intellect and impeccable character. No, Trump’s appeal is to the glands, not to the soul.

    nk (dbc370)

  39. But clearly he is a really complicated character that pedestrians like me probably could never fully understand.

    Pshaw. A spoiled punk with bad appetites and worse manners. If not for the safety net provided by his daddy, he’d be living on the street or in prison.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. Oh, I agree nk, but I can’t understand the guy because I just can’t wrap my head around unceasing megalomania.

    JVW (9e3c77)

  41. If you take a piece of paper and draw a line down the middle to make two columns and in the first column you write down everything you like about Mr. Trump and in the second column you write down everything you dislike about Mr. Trump, for many of you the first column is very concise.

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  42. My guess is that 2 of the 3 Trump children are registered Democrats. I get that. What choice do Republicans have in most NY primaries? Those New York values strike again.

    I’m registered R because voting in the D primary would at best give me a choice between a lesser evil and several greater evils, but most of the time the evils on offer are more or less equal, so even if I could choose among them I wouldn’t. For instance, I am represented in Congress by one of the communists Allen West had to chutzpah to call what they are, but I don’t recall her ever facing a primary rival who was noticeably a better choice, so what would I gain by being able to choose among them? OTOH voting in the R primaries, although there aren’t as many of them, occasionally gives me the chance to vote for someone I actually like. Next week’s primary is the payoff for all the times I’m an innocent bystander while the D primary is the real election.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  43. I think this was a PR campaign to raise Trump’s profile and enhance his celebrity and money-making potential … and then he unexpectedly started winning.

    You know, DRJ, sometimes I think this is true and sometimes I doubt it. He certainly has a talent for self-promotion, but I can’t imagine that his ego would have allowed him to enter this race unless he was set on winning it.

    The communications director he hired for what was effectively his campaign in its early stages, before the official announcement, agrees that he had no thought of winning. The plan was to take it as far as it would go, milk it for all the publicity it could yield, and then leave triumphantly. Neither of the Trump children seems to have thought he’d still be in the race come April.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  44. for many of you the first column is very concise.

    Yes, it is. I think I have a longer first column for Sanders than for Trump.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  45. Imagine if a play was written about Nelson Mandela and all the leads were white …… and the evil protagonist black.

    Rodney King's Spirit (db6706)

  46. The thing is, Milhouse, in many of those places where one party dominates the political landscape, the other party often doesn’t even field a candidate in the general election. So if you, as you claim, register R in a heavily D place (district, town, city, whatever), then you simply forfeit your franchise, without a whimper. No primary to vote in, and no candidate to vote for in the general. And since local politics can have a significant impact on your daily life (where will roads go, what re-zoning will happen, can you water your lawn, etc), anyone who does so simply wants to vote. And crappy candidates are not a uniquely D thing. There are plenty of David Dukes and Bob McDonnells, if that is what truly motivates you. But you’ll pull the lever for whatever the party bosses put in front of you, eagerly.

    Now, you may feel different than most people who want to vote locally(and apparently do), but for you to claim some sort of ideological purity and look down on those who choose to exercise their franchise in the matters that actually impact them every single day is the sort of nonsense that has led “conservatism” into the desert for 30+ years.

    prowlerguy (fa36d8)

  47. Unless the registration deadline was very recent, it’s pretty obvious why the Trump kids didn’t register as Republicans to vote in the primary. Their dad probably hadn’t decided to run as a Republican at the time of the deadline. They may have been registered “conservative” in New York like Hannity and Buckley.

    Jcurtis (deff4c)

  48. [A]ccording to New York’s public Voter Registration Database, both Eric and Ivanka Trump are registered to vote but not enrolled in a political party.

    Says NBC’s NYC affiliate.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  49. Trump unsuccessfully ran or considered running for President multiple times before this campaign, JVW. Would he have realistically thought this time would be different?

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. A timeline of every time Trump ran or considered running for President.

    DRJ (15874d)

  51. “One of the greatest sins of the Baby Boomers is elevating the status of low-life trash entertainers”

    nk,

    Whoa, pardner. Political virtue signaling by celebritrash was not invented by Boomers. It’s true the Boomer generation was the first to be specifically targeted and manipulated (to an extent) by blatant commie propagandists working in concert with lefty dominated media but Jane Fonda was born in ’37 and John Lennon was born in ’40. Tom Smothers was born in ’37 and Dick Smothers was born in ’38.

    The date of the shift from closeted lefty (Spencer Tracy/Katherine Hepburn/Paul Newman) virtue signaling to blatant virtue signaling by celebritrash is difficult to pinpoint but a review of hearings HUAC provides a list of the most obviously culpable and you won’t find any Boomers.

    Rick Ballard (add7a6)

  52. Paul Ryan’s press conference today could not have been clearer: He said he does not want and “will not accept” the nomination of his party.

    Therefore, he must be the Messiah! Only the Messiah would deny his divinity!

    Beldar (fa637a)

  53. That was technically a “half-Sherman.”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  54. I hope that’s true because they are sending a lot of mixed signals, Beldar.

    DRJ (15874d)

  55. prowlerguy, most of the time there is no candidate in the D primary who is enough less evil than the others to induce me to choose them. Sometimes it happens, but not often. What I’m guaranteed, if I register D, is no chance, ever, to vote for someone I actually like. By registering R I give up the chance to tell the D party which terrible candidate I want to vote against in November, and in return I get the chance, once in a long while, to help an actually good candidate get elected to something.

    Now if I lived a few neighborhoods away, where halfway-decent DINOs routinely win D primaries and get elected, I might hold my nose and register D to help them, but where I live the primary result is just as forgone a conclusion as the general election one: the most “progressive” candidate, i.e. the truest D, will win.

    Jcurtis, Trump started his campaign in June 2015, and the deadline to switch parties was in October. They had plenty of time, if they wanted to vote in the R primary. Either they didn’t think the campaign would still be going by now, or they didn’t remember the deadline. But if they were really Rs they should have registered that way years ago.

    The C party doesn’t hold primaries, so there’s no reason to register that way. If one wants to help choose C candidates one has to actually join the party. I think it should be that way for the R and D parties too. Letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry tell you which candidate you should choose is stupid.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  56. I think people have been projecting, DRJ. Ryan is not going to be a behind-the-scenes Speaker. He’s the country’s high-ranking Republican official; he sees himself having important policy and political roles as Speaker between now and November. Plus, of course, he’s also going to preside over the convention, which may well need every bit of his credibility and ability to guide the Party through. I believe him.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  57. 21. I have two cousins, who are brothers from a maternal uncle, who both love them Springsteen to the point of going to 1 concert a year (it has varied from AZ to Chicago, and I think FL might be in play on account of the 3rd brother moving there). Weird part is that one of those cousins is CPD (tac unit, no less) who actually coordinates a lot of activities related to those killed in duty. Not that ’40 shots’ is a heavy-rotation fave, but I wonder if he picks that song to look away from the stage or take a potty break.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  58. In other words, what he’s going to continue to do as Speaker might also look presidential. But he’s not going to alter his course as Speaker to disappear from the national political stage for the rest of the campaign, because there’s more going on that just the campaign. This is more or less what he said at the end of the press conference.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  59. It might have been my imagination, but I’d be curious to run Ryan’s prepared statement today through one of those subroutines that measures word and sentence length, number of syllables, and overall complexity — often expressed in grade level. Ryan’s usually around ninth or tenth grade level, but this one, I think, he deliberately pitched at about fifth grade level. This was obviously intended to help make his reassurances more broadly effective across the entire electorate, with special care to include the Trumpkins.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  60. “they are sending a lot of mixed signals”.

    They also sank $150 million in Superpacs based upon their expert assessment of the political skill possessed by ¡JEB!. I find it very difficult to fear them.

    Rick Ballard (add7a6)

  61. Oh, and prowlerguy, in November I generally vote a straight Conservative Party ticket, except when both (a) there is a Libertarian Party candidate for that office, and (b) the C candidate has no chance of winning anyway.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  62. I think it’s a question of when Ryan decides to run, not if. For instance, would you also say he’s not running for President in 2020?

    DRJ (15874d)

  63. Its risky to run in 2020 – the Wisconsin revolution could be a distant not well-regarded memory. Of course he preceded the Walker-Clark-Sykes-Kleefisch-Duffy-Johnson menagerie, so he might feel immune to the blow back. His district probably gets “cracked” after the 2020 census – due to Wisconsin losing a seat to the Sun Belt (Kenosha-Racine to Gwen Moore, the balance to a rural R), so the 2021-2023 might be his last term in the House anyhow. He’ll have 20 years + to be a lobbyist at that juncture.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  64. Bruce is cisabbynormal anyway… Tweeter and teh MonkeyMan!

    Colonel Haiku (7c41f2)

  65. Have you heard about Trump’s Washington debacle?

    He, and his newly-hired whiz kid Manafort, completely missed the selection of delegate electors in the State of Washington last week. So did Kasich. Cruz got ever last one of these. First ballot votes for the eventual delegates will be determined a few weeks from now. But, just as with CO and ND and most other states, the delegates will be core Cruz folks who will vote for Ted on subsequent convention balloting.

    The best part of this one? Manfort sent an emergency message about the delegate selection to the Trump organization in Washington…DC.

    http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2016/04/08/paul-manafort-donald-trump-washington-state-ted-cruz-delegates/

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  66. DRJ,

    There is a possibility Walker might go after Baldwin’s seat in ’18, if Ryan is truly interested in the WH, a stint as governor would be very helpful. I would think ’24 rather than ’20 though. He will only be 54 in ’24 – he has plenty of time.

    Rick Ballard (e0e069)

  67. Mr. Ballard:
    Too much of a queue/”my turns” with regard to possible R gubernatorial in Wisky. Theyd tell Ryan to take a hike or stand at the end of the line. I hope there’s a Sean Duffy – Jessie Rodriguez statewide primary race one year, if only to see a Jessie Rodriguez v. Rachel Campos Duffy catfight.

    urbanleftbehind (468859)

  68. …or Duffy- Rodriguez gubernatorial ticket whereupon Campos Duffy is consumed with jealousy and suspicion.

    urbanleftbehind (468859)

  69. DRJ, I think Ryan is ambitious, and he hasn’t ruled out (nor had occasion to rule out) running in 2020 or even thereafter for the WH.

    But it’s obvious to everyone, including surely him, that this election cycle isn’t the right one for his type of potential presidential candidacy. Rather, his highest and best use — as I think he perceives it — is to be Speaker right now, including its derivative job as Chair of the Republican National Convention. On matters of process, he’ll be the big dawg there; and the process must not only be fair, but be seen and believed to be fair. I’m confident that Ryan gets that, and I can’t think of a better potential Chair for the convention.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  70. “but be seen and believed to be fair”

    I wish that were true but the whining over Colorado by Trump supporters leads me to believe they will scream like banshees when his plurality changes to a definite minority in the final vote. Most will come to their senses after a bit but the wailing and gnashing of teeth is going to make the immediate aftermath of the convention rather unpleasant.

    Rick Ballard (44777c)

  71. This convention won’t be good for Ryan’s prospects unless the GOP wins the White House, in which case it could be 8 years before he can run. That’s a long time and a lot of things can go wrong for every Republican leader. Maybe Ryan can set himself up to be the heir apparent but I don’t see how.

    DRJ (15874d)

  72. Cheeseheads Cantoring Ryan in the primary would be a gift from heaven.
    Cruz/West

    sickofrinos (31009b)

  73. A few respectable polls indicating that Paul Ryan was on his way out and GOPe knees would go wobbly.

    ropelight (10648a)

  74. #73 sickofrinos,

    At least Paul Ryan’s not from Minnesota. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  75. Does all this seem to anyone else like “X-Men sequel No. 17, ‘Wolverine Does Walla-Walla’ Rumored In The Works” in Variety? Or maybe “Wedding Bells For Justin And Selena?” in Us Magazine?

    nk (dbc370)

  76. C.S. – Blow me, prick.

    sickofrinos (31009b)

  77. You saw your tax bill too, eh mg?

    nk (dbc370)

  78. Pennsylvania GOP delegate selection & allocation processes are weird, extremely distributed and indirect, and therefore unpredictable.

    This GOP primary cycle is certainly proving that the state governments are still the proverbial “laboratory of democracy.” It’s amazing what a variation there is from state to state, and year to year. And there’s a story behind every data point.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  79. Don’t ask me why, this is what I see until my eyes focus on that moniker…

    Sickofritos (2601c0)

  80. …or Duffy- Rodriguez gubernatorial ticket whereupon Campos Duffy is consumed with jealousy and suspicion.

    urbanleftbehind (468859) — 4/12/2016 @ 2:45 pm

    Seems to me you like your politics as you like your WWE :)

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  81. she was the only reason to watch the real world, which otherwise was a viral plague unleashed on human conssciencenesss

    narciso (732bc0)

  82. asking if you’ve ever made frito pie at home is a good bubble question

    happyfeet (831175)

  83. But it’s obvious to everyone, including surely him, that this election cycle isn’t the right one for his type of potential presidential candidacy.

    No. This is the point in the cycle for the base’s candidate. After 8 years of far left politics and the promise of 4 more years of the same, a hard-core conservative is as much in order as a leftist was for the Dems on 2008.

    Of course, no one was expecting the Trumpish Inquisition.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  84. Mr. Trump is a delight he’s there when you need him like ro-tel tomatoes

    happyfeet (831175)

  85. It’s getting to the point that no GOPe wants any fingerprints on the potentially catastrophic general election. We now have two enormously powerful elephants (Priebus, Ryan) saying the exact same thing: “The people are speaking. Let them have their result.” It’s also, I believe, a significant reason why there have been so few endorsements. Who wants to be on the train when it wrecks?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  86. he’s just a really neat guy i would encourage you to take the time to get to know him

    he’s really good

    happyfeet (831175)

  87. Beck says Cruz is the Moses of our time. Color me converted. Let’s go smite some trumpkins!

    spokanebob (171993)

  88. Think of the movie “Casino”.
    Think of Joe Pesci and Sharon Stone.
    Think of them in the White House.
    Think!

    nk (dbc370)

  89. I don’t know how to love Cruz. He scares me so.

    spokanebob (171993)

  90. new jersey kicks randy turd crud off ballot!

    cruz is a maggot (ded5c6)

  91. Perry’s death panel gets tired of skipped appointments; hires hit-man.

    nk (dbc370)

  92. 78-Land tax, insurance and a flucked up health care system with a one party system is for commies, nk.
    90- Brutal visual, nk. Throw in Tony Montana!

    sickofrinos (31009b)

  93. Jcurtis, Trump started his campaign in June 2015, and the deadline to switch parties was in October. They had plenty of time, if they wanted to vote in the R primary. Either they didn’t think the campaign would still be going by now, or they didn’t remember the deadline. But if they were really Rs they should have registered that way years ago.

    The C party doesn’t hold primaries, so there’s no reason to register that way. If one wants to help choose C candidates one has to actually join the party. I think it should be that way for the R and D parties too. Letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry tell you which candidate you should choose is stupid.

    Milhouse (87c499) — 4/12/2016 @ 12:42 pm

    There was some question as to whether Trump would run as a Republican or an Independent at the deadline date. I guess he signed the loyalty thing in September but all that did was embolden the GOP establishment to work harder to push him out. But perhaps you can say they had a tiny window of opportunity to register as Republicans.

    As for C Party, I’m not from New York but it was good enough for Buckley and Hannity. You should start going after Hannity because he won’t be voting in the primary for Trump or anyone else. I’m not sure of his reasoning on that if there is no advantage to registering as C.

    jcurtis (deff4c)

  94. Actually, in New Jersey today:

    A New Jersey judge decided Tuesday that GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz can appear on the New Jersey primary ballot, ruling against two challenges to whether the Canada-born Texas senator qualified as a “natural born citizen.”

    The administrative law judge, Jeff Masin, said that arguments that a person born in another country could not be a natural born citizen were “not facetious,” and that the subject would “never be entirely free of doubt” without a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

    But “the more persuasive legal analysis is that such a child, born of a citizen-father, citizen-mother, or both, is indeed a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the contemplation of the Constitution,” he said in a 27-page decision.

    Ho hum. Cue the Trumpkin shills in their outrage.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  95. Kind of a cut the nose off to spite the face protest registration, perhaps. The New York C affiliation.

    jcurtis (deff4c)

  96. Well, yes, Perry of the many aliases is compost(sic) mentis.

    nk (dbc370)

  97. This, by the way, was clearly an “on the merits” ruling: Judge Masin expressly found that the plaintiff had standing and that the case was justiciable (i.e., appropriate for courts to hear).

    Beldar (fa637a)

  98. Ho hum. Cue the Trumpkin shills in their outrage.

    Beldar (fa637a) — 4/12/2016 @ 7:07 pm

    I think Beldar is saying that he ( or she ) is in complete agreement with this judge’s reasoning on determining Cruz a natural born citizen. But I don’t want to put words into Beldar’s mouth.

    jcurtis (deff4c)

  99. Sean Hannity is a gasbag. All those years of chest-thumping in favor of “principles” and opposing “rinos”…and here’s Mr Dry Wall Hanger & Roofer supporting The Mr Donald, despite the fact that The Mr Donald supported Hillary in 2008 and contributed to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuckie Schumer in recent years.
    He’s such a lazy phony, he doesn’t even wear suit slacks when he’s on the set—he wears blue jeans, knowing that they won’t be seen by the tv camera.

    That Sean Hannity—-he’s such a Great American! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  100. Beldar would be the first to tell you that John Jay and George Washington intended for their eligibility clause to make eligible for the presidency the English-born child born to an American ex-pat woman and the King of England.

    Or maybe Beldar doesn’t believe that but doesn’t believe Framers’ Intent is all that important in the larger scheme of things so he has a nuanced opinion on the matter.

    jcurtis (deff4c)

  101. I think that whiny punk-ass crybabies who don’t get their way will continue to bitch and moan-moan and bitch that “It’s not right” and “It’s not fair” until the day they die; there’s no point in telling them to “Man up, it is what it is”; so it’s just best to ignore them like any other buzzing gnat.

    nk (dbc370)

  102. We only need two bathrooms: one for standing when you pee and one for sitting. Let the people decide.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  103. Meanwhile in the Clintons’ home state: Cruz, Rubio join forces in Arkansas to block Trump delegates:

    Since Rubio ended his presidential bid March 15, his network of party insiders has lined up behind Cruz to win delegates who’d vote for the Texas senator once they’re no longer bound to Trump in a floor fight. Trump won Arkansas’ GOP primary March 1 with 32.8 percent of the vote compared to Cruz’s 30.5 percent and Rubio’s 24.9 percent. But Cruz’s canny operatives, with Rubio riding shotgun, is likely to thwart Trump in the delegate election.

    Trump’s organization is as sloppy in Arkansas as elsewhere, just as Cruz’s is an efficient machine in state after state. This could ding the Donald, costing him as many as 25 delegates after a first inconclusive ballot.

    ….

    In Arkansas, delegates will be elected in a series of local elections in April, culminating with meeting of the state central committee on May 14. Candidates had to meet a Feb. 19 deadline to file to run. The Cruz campaign was actively engaged in recruiting candidates going back several months. The Trump campaign was, and remains, largely absent, Arkansas GOP insiders say, mirroring the front-runner’s problems in other states.

    Such a consistent pattern, eh?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  104. John Jay would agree with the New Jersey magistrate’s decision (citations omitted):

    As recounted by Justice Joseph Story in his famous Commentaries on the Constitution, the purpose of the natural born Citizen clause was thus to “cut[] off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interpose[] a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections.”

    The Framers did not fear such machinations from those who were U.S. citizens from birth just because of the happenstance of a foreign birthplace. Indeed, John Jay’s own children were born abroad while he served on diplomatic assignments, and it would be absurd to conclude that Jay proposed to exclude his own children, as foreigners of dubious loyalty, from presidential eligibility.

    DRJ (15874d)

  105. This, by the way, was clearly an “on the merits” ruling: Judge Masin expressly found that the plaintiff had standing and that the case was justiciable (i.e., appropriate for courts to hear).

    I believe it’s not justitiable, but it doesn’t matter because Masin is not a real judge and this was not a real judicial decision. He’s an “administrative law judge”, which is basically a kind of high-ranking in-house lawyer for the state government, giving it his legal advice which it can accept or reject as it chooses, so he’s not constrained by whether a question is justiciable, or by rules of standing.

    He was certainly wrong when he wrote “The Electoral College is not vested with the power to determine the eligibility of the Presidential candidate since it is only charged to select the candidate for each office and transmit its votes to the “seat of government.” Congress has no power over this process for choosing the President and Vice President, except where a tie vote occurs, when Congress chooses the President and Vice President.” The Electors are charged by the constitution with a duty to vote only for eligible candidates; thus it’s up to each of them to decide for him or herself who is eligible. Congress has the power to decide which votes to accept and count, and which to discard uncounted. For instance, in 1864 the reconstructed parts of TN and LA chose electors who sent in votes, but Congress refused to count them.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  106. John Jay’s own children were born abroad while he served on diplomatic assignments, and it would be absurd to conclude that Jay proposed to exclude his own children, as foreigners of dubious loyalty, from presidential eligibility.

    This is not a serious argument. If the definition he had in mind was Blackstone’s, it specifically says that children born abroad to the king’s embassadors are natural born subjects.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  107. Crazy F-ing grandma time!!! http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2016/04/#a033132

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  108. 109. …If the definition he had in mind was Blackstone’s, it specifically says that children born abroad to the king’s embassadors are natural born subjects.

    Milhouse (87c499) — 4/12/2016 @ 9:31 pm

    Blackstone didn’t have his own definition of “natural born.” Jay would have had the definition as provided by English Common Law. Here I use the term in one of the two ways it can be used; law common to the entire realm of the king of England comprised of both parliamentary statutes and decisions of the king’s courts. Which by the time Blackstone wrote his commentaries had evolved from the king’s own children or those of his emissaries born abroad to children born abroad to two parents who were the king’s subjects to children born abroad whose father was the king’s subject.

    . . . all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.

    Commentaries on the Laws of England 354 (1765)

    OK, with New Jersey now in, we add that to the list of administrative challenges to Cruz’s eligibility have also been rejected in Illinois, Indiana, New Hampshire, and New York.

    Challenges to Cruz’s eligibility have been laughed out of state courts in Florida, Vermont, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and laughed out of federal courts in Arkansas, New Hampshire, New York, and Utah.

    I believe no more administrative or state court challenges are pending, and there are two remaining civil cases before federal courts in Alabama and Texas that will shortly go the way of the rest. As the New York Supreme Court decision put it shortly before dismissing the challenge for being filed after the the statutory deadline, the issues raised by the plaintiffs concerning Cruz’s citizenship status were “academic.” For you Trumpkins, that means the questions regarding Cruz and the natural born citizen clause were of no practical relevance. To repeat, like almost all these courts the NY Supreme Court tossed the suit on a technicality. But considering that the court didn’t have to comment on the substance of the challenge, but did anyway only to say there were no important substantive issues, that tells you it would have gone against the plaintiffs if it had come to that.

    The Pennsylvania courts did decide the case, Farrell v. Cruz, on the underlying constitutional question. And the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania determined that Cruz meets the constitutional definition of a natural born citizen. The same conclusion that this New Jersey judge drew. The Pennsylvania judge’s decision was later affirmed by the state supreme court.

    I know; another yuuuge disappointment for the Trumpkins. As I observed on another thread, after all these court challenges to the eventual Republican nominee fail we’ll have to put them on suicide watch when it also turns out there’s nothing to the smears the National Enquirer is trafficking in against Cruz.

    Steve57 (99e913)

  109. Paul Ryan is more than qualified to run for president as a democrat.

    sickofrinos (31009b)

  110. c.s.- Ryan needs a lacky to white wash his fence, you busy?

    sickofrinos (31009b)

  111. Even more shocking than Bruce and his bathroom problem is the fact that the LAT has apparently gotten it right twice lately.

    Yes, twice.

    First, they ran an article about how unfair it is for union workers in LA and other CA cities to be exempt from the minimum wage law (which the unions championed). This exemption makes the union workers cheaper hires, of course, so the union gets lots more members and dues!

    Then they publish an article excoriating the state for releasing tons of water from overflowing reservoirs up north and dumping it into the sea, rather than allowing we humans to use it.

    What’s going on there? Have they banned smoking weed in the news room or something?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  112. I worked for a Japanese-American guy at an ad agency years ago. We were in a meeting with one of the largest urban-contemporary (R&B/hip hop) stations in a major media market. At some point during the meeting, the President of the radio station stood up to excuse himself, saying that he had a meeting downtown at X:00 sharp. My asian boss asked “is that CP time?” Super awkward. The black folks and I shared that look… Another time, the same guy asked one of the senior VP’s at Univision what was up with the dingle balls in the Chevy Impalas. I wanted to crawl under the table more than once.

    carlitos (c24ed5)

  113. One time, a Spanish friend explained to me the connotations of mañana. “Although it literally means “tomorrow”, he said, “it has a broader meaning close to ‘it can wait’. For example, you have to mow the lawn and you say mañana. Then tomorrow comes and you say mañana again. And so on for three or four more days until you finally do it.”

    “But tell me”, he asked “don’t the Greeks have a similar expression?”

    And I said, “Oh no, Greeks never have that much of a sense of urgency”.

    nk (dbc370)

  114. Back in teh day, the Chambers Brothers had an FM hit of sorts with “CP Time Has Come Today”… beaucoup cow bell, too.

    Sickofritos (89ebb5)

  115. The Times must be taking orders from their Tribune overlords seeing as how they ceaselessly push the gospel of “management Democrats” Rauner (an R, but the quintessential RINO) and Rahm.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  116. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas

    perhaps Ted’s finest hour…..”And Cruz, who was already thinking about running for elected office, missed out on the chance to gain national attention as an advocate for the just-say-no-to-vibrators cause.”

    spokanebob (1aaf2a)

  117. So Melania had no reason not to campaign with her husband in Texas after all, spokanebob?

    The lengths you guys will go to to put a sociopath and a rich man’s sex-doll in the White House.

    nk (dbc370)

  118. In future elections, people will strive to investigate whether or not presidential candidates were born via Caesarian section, because they are not natural born.

    Sammy Finkelman (0dadb5)

  119. 120 – His focus on personal matters is a concern for people who feel that is their business alone. Might make it a little difficult in persuading the NY and CA values people to give him those 260+ delegates. Although as a Top Deputy Delegate I would imagine you are more in the know on how this fits the brilliant Cruz strategy. The GOP is going to get shellacked with Cruz or Trump – it doesn’t really matter which one gets the nomination. But when the SCOTUS has 7 liberal judges for the next 35 years at least the Cruzers can claim -“Principle!!” or the Trumpers can claim “We did it our way!”

    But a humorous campaign slogan you might see from HRC if she faces Cruz “First they came for our Muslims and I said nothing, then they came for our undocumented citizens and I said nothing, when they came for our vibrators there was no one left to fight…” LGQBT PAC for HRC

    spokanebob (e86321)

  120. I’ve done the same work as Cruz for a government check on the defense side. You don’t get to pick your cases. Did you want Cruz to be like Eric Hoder or Jerry Brown or the sundry other state AGs and governors who refused to defend their states’ marriage laws, for example?

    Sure I think the anti-sex toy law was stupid. I think a lot of laws in a lot of states are stupid. But I wouldn’t mock Cruz for defending it. I would mock him if he had not defended it. Because that’s what he signed up for. The pleasant ones and the unpleasant ones.

    nk (dbc370)

  121. His focus on personal matters is a concern for people who feel that is their business alone.

    What “focus on personal matters”? You have no concept of the rule of law, do you? To you it’s all about how you feel about the specific issue at hand, not the legal principle that’s in question. You’d uphold bans on KKK robes or marches, because the KKK are bad people.

    Cruz, as Texas SG, was defending the police power of the states. The court had outrageously expanded an already-outrageous precedent, and he was doing all states a service by challenging it. He and all 50 states lost. That happens. Maybe it was even a good thing that he lost, but as the lawyer for a state he had no right to just throw his hands up and let the challenge go unopposed, let alone to collaborate with it as CA’s AG does.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  122. Blackstone didn’t have his own definition of “natural born.” Jay would have had the definition as provided by English Common Law.

    Which he would have got from…Blackstone. Who says that although Parliament has artificially extended it, the common law concept of “natural born subject” derives from the natural allegiance every person owes (or was thought to) to the sovereign whose laws protected him at birth.

    Thus, he says, since the king’s embassadors and their families are protected by the king’s laws rather than those of the king to whom they are posted, children born to them while on their posting are the king’s natural born subjects. But when a subject is abroad on his own business, and has a child, that child owes his natural allegiance to the king of that country. Parliament may have legislated to treat that child as if he were a natural born subject, so that “to all intents and purposes” he is one, but he’s not really one.

    It’s entirely possible that this is the definition Jay had in mind, in which case he would not have been worried about his own children. Therefore the argument that he couldn’t have intended a definition that would exclude his children is invalid, and making it betrays ignorance of the subject matter.

    Note that Masin, in his advisory opinion, didn’t make this mistake. He specifically mentions this point.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  123. Sure I think the anti-sex toy law was stupid. But the state’s power to make stupid laws is important and worth defending against federal encroachment.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  124. His focus on personal matters is a concern

    Spokanebob,

    Milhouse said it before I had a chance, but your reading of this story is deeply ignorant.

    Ted Cruz didn’t pass this law you’re upset about. He defended Texas’s right as a state to have such a law. Which was his job as solicitor general. While I do not agree with that particular law, I do think each state should be able to pass such a law, and the right way to undo a stupid law is be the legislature rather than sweeping court rulings meant to please your favorite website, Mother Jones.

    Ted Cruz as president would support your right to do things Cruz didn’t specifically approve of either, because it’s usually none of the government’s business. We know Cruz is principled because of how he handled this issue you’re upset about. Principles came before popularity.

    Can’t say the same for Trump, who has flip flopped on every single issue… Every Single One. He doesn’t care about state’s rights or your rights.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  125. Children of US citizen(s) who are born abroad are citizens at birth because we believe their loyalty to our country comes through having loyal parents.

    DRJ (15874d)

  126. I think that was Jay’s point, not that his government service put his children in a special category. He built on English common law but adopted it to American values.

    DRJ (15874d)

  127. 127 – Your insistence on speaking as the collective voice of Cruz is cute. Did I describe it as Cruz passing a law? Perhaps you should read a little more closely next time. States rights are important but it is just as important they be passed responsibly and with consideration for impact on the citizens rights.

    spokanebob (1aaf2a)

  128. Did I describe it as Cruz passing a law? Perhaps you should read a little more closely next time. States rights are important but it is just as important they be passed responsibly and with consideration for impact on the citizens rights.

    spokanebob (1aaf2a) — 4/13/2016 @ 9:58 am

    You just said the reason you’re upset with Cruz is that a law was not passed ‘responsibly’, whatever that means. Cruz did not pass the law.

    You complain that Cruz decided to focus on personal matters, and failed to show any indication he even did this. Cruz’s job was to defend legal challenges to Texas’s laws. He didn’t bring this to court.

    If you don’t like the laws in Texas, who is your Texas representative? Have you told them how you feel and asked them to change this law? Or do you just wait for Mother Jones to dictate to you what you are mad about today? Are you even registered to vote in Texas? If you’re not (based on your name), then why do you care what Texans decided to do?

    This cuts to the core of Cruz’s argument. You want the federal government and the courts to dictate political matters in states, but this is contrary to what this country is about, and it’s foolish on practical grounds as well.

    Your insistence on speaking as the collective voice of Cruz is cute

    I don’t understand what this means. You brought the issue up, and were answered.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  129. Most people assume that Trump didn’t realize he needs a good delegate/convention ground game, which shows he isn’t as good a businessman as he claims. I think that’s likely since my gut says he never expected to do this well and this was more of a brand-enhancing lark than a serious campaign.

    However, at some point his candidacy became more than a reality show, and Trump probably realized or was told he needed to spend money on these things. What if he decided not to? Putting his own money in the pot might make it harder for him to spend it.

    DRJ (15874d)

  130. And where is the rest of the money Trump raised for the veterans groups?

    Almost $4 million raised by Donald Trump’s campaign at a veterans’ charity fundraising event in January has yet to be distributed to the intended recipients, according to theWall Street Journal.

    The newspaper contacted 19 of the 22 veterans’ charities to which Trump promised to donate the proceeds, and found that only about $2.4 million of the $6 million raised has been distributed.

    Is this campaign about making money for Donald?

    DRJ (15874d)

  131. that’s still like a million percent more than the harvardtrash ted n heidi show has given to ANYBODY

    happyfeet (831175)

  132. Moment, please. That they took off taxes as charitable deduction. Is big difference.

    narlie khan (dbc370)

  133. happyfeet, individuals across America donated that money. It’s just that Trump has refused to give it all to the people they intended to donate to. Trump also turned down millions in donations to vets because they came with the condition he debate Cruz or Fiorina. Trump talks a lot of trash, but he is a coward.

    I don’t see why you needed a middle man to donate to vets. I see why Trump needed something to make himself look good after insulting vets and having them kicked off Park Avenue as undesirable.

    Personally, I do not think acts of charity should be broadcast, and I hate it when politicians praise themselves for their charity. That’s not what it’s supposed to be about.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  134. @ spokanebob: I suspect you dropped by with your dildo on a string to troll today, in hopes that you’d find Cruz supporters willing to argue with you about the pros and cons of dildos.

    If one is a limited government conservative, a federalist, a constitutional conservative — all terms that describe Cruz, all terms that I embrace for myself — then one has to recognize that there will be occasions on which the public, acting through its democratically elected officials, will make uncommonly foolish laws, and sometimes even wicked ones. Most would agree that this particular law fell in the former category. Or are you arguing, bob, that unlimited dildo rights are the cornerstone of constitutional government, such that Cruz should have quit his job out of pro-dildo principle rather than actually doing his job as Solicitor General of Texas?

    Cruz’ political opponents now find it convenient to attack Cruz for doing his job well, at a time when his specific job was to defend, in federal court, the laws passed by the Texas legislature. But Cruz’ political foes get themselves all wee-wee’d up, and they pretend that the fact Cruz was responsible for the passage of the law, or that he agreed with its wisdom, or that if he’s president, he will confiscate your dildos (in excess of five).

    That’s intellectually flabby argument at best — and when made by someone with a lick of sense and the ability to construct a complete sentence, flat-out intellectually dishonest.

    I doubt that the 2016 election cycle will turn on the question of whether Americans have a constitutional right to keep and bear dildos in quantities larger than a half-dozen at a time. Those who try to pretend otherwise will end up looking very much like the subject of the discussion.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  135. happyfeet,

    Those funds were donated to Trump by people who wanted to support veterans, not Trump. They were given to Trump for the veterans and should be paid to the veterans groups, as he promised. Trump doesn’t give his cash to charities, only to politicians.

    DRJ (15874d)

  136. i don’t even know how accurate that story is

    Time didn’t even talk to all the charities

    happyfeet (831175)

  137. Apologies for an editing error: “and they pretend that the fact Cruz was responsible for the passage of the law” –> “and they pretend that Cruz was responsible for the passage of the law”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  138. The WSJ contacted 19 out of 22 of the veterans groups. That’s a far greater percentage than Trump has won states, and he claims the race should be over.

    DRJ (15874d)

  139. Children of US citizen(s) who are born abroad are citizens at birth because we believe their loyalty to our country comes through having loyal parents.

    I think that was Jay’s point, not that his government service put his children in a special category. He built on English common law but adopted it to American values.

    What is your evidence for that? Wishful thinking?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  140. I think that if we see Trump’s tax returns, we will not see charitable deductions. I think we will see a 1040 Line 21 with “NOL” which stands for “net operating loss” and a big number preceded by a minus (-) sign. Losses from his loser business which he gets to deduct directly from cash income he has. Which would explain the homeowners’ exemption he got for people making less than $360,000. And it might show that he pays less tax than Warren Buffet’s secretary. And which is why we will not see his tax returns. Because he is a big phony and a big liar and a big bag of wind.

    narlie khan (dbc370)

  141. Meanwhile, I was called for this poll. It was an automated robocaller, with no live human available. Everything went OK until we got to the question “Who do you believe is most likely to be the next President of the United States? Not necessarily who you want to vote for.” Only five choices were given: Clinton, Cruz, Kasich, Sanders, and Trump. There was no option for “Someone else”, or “I don’t know”. I think it likely that there will be at least one more significant candidate, and that the ultimate result is anyone’s guess, so I was unable to answer this question. I tried to press 6, and when that didn’t work I tried 0, and the bot terminated the call, so I probably didn’t get counted in the result.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  142. The Naturalization Act of 1790 that said foreign-born children of a US citizen father were natural born citizens, provided the father had been a US resident. The Act was passed soon after the Constitution by some of the same people, so it’s reasonable to believe this is what they meant.

    DRJ (15874d)

  143. On the contrary, the fact that they had to make a law to say that these children “shall be considered as natural born citizens” shows that they weren’t understood to be NBCs.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  144. Like laws against murder show that most people are understood to be potential murderers? No law codifies the obvious? Are Constitutional provisions self-enforcing or are they enforced by appropriate legislation in accordance with the Constitution?

    narlie khan (dbc370)

  145. Cookies!

    nk (dbc370)

  146. yes yes cookies!

    happyfeet (831175)

  147. 137 – You are too far in the tank — all Cruz all the time and thin skinned to the point of silliness. It is almost as if you worship Cruz as the Moses Beck says he is.

    If Trump pulls off the 1237 and no contested convention occurs will you be okay?

    All it takes is mentioning dildos and you produce a mini-manifesto. Predictable but sad.

    spokanebob (1aaf2a)

  148. Re this (#150), from sideshowspokanebob: “All it takes is mentioning dildos ….”

    Thus does the troll concede his intention to troll.

    Sad!

    But funny!

    Beldar (fa637a)

  149. Ack — missed a tag there. That (#152) ought to have read:

    Re this (#150), from sideshowspokanebob: “All it takes is mentioning dildos ….”

    Thus does the troll concede his intention to troll.

    Sad!

    But funny!

    Beldar (fa637a)

  150. Like laws against murder show that most people are understood to be potential murderers? No law codifies the obvious?

    Irrelevant. A law providing that someone shall be considered as something means he is not that thing. Note that they didn’t legislate that children born in the USA shall be considered as NBCs. They are NBCs, by definition.

    Are Constitutional provisions self-enforcing or are they enforced by appropriate legislation in accordance with the Constitution?

    The constitution is itself law; it needs no legislation. But the naturalization law of 1790 did not enforce anything in the constitution. It had nothing to do with the constitution. It certainly wasn’t intended to have anything to do with the presidential eligibility clause.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  151. I just heard Hillary! in a news clip saying something nasty about Trump, followed by her saying: “This is the same Donald Trump who led the insidious ‘birther movement’ to de-legitimize President Obama!”

    This is a triumph of Clintonian parsing. You see, in Clinton-speak, Hillary may have led “the insidious birther movement” to de-legitimize Democratic presidential candidate Obama. But that’s different, in Clinton-logic, from de-legitimizing President Obama.

    The biggest similarity between Trump and both Clintons is their brazen shamelessness. They genuinely are peas in a pod.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  152. http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2016/04/12/moved-hillary-gun-control-nicolle-wallace-gets-chills-her-arm

    There’s a huge difference between a chill and a thrill. Hillary Clinton speaking seriously about banning guns should give anyone chills. She might actually be in a position to do it. So might Trump, who agrees with her 100% on the issue, whatever he might be saying now.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  153. “Sorry, Hillary,” Mr. de Blasio said. “I was running on C.P. time,”

    C.P. (or “Colored People”) time really should be “Leftwing time,” since De Blasio is notorious for being late to appointments and meetings, and he’s very liberal, and a high percentage of black America is very liberal — and flakiness is a trait that clings to liberals more than others — so it’s all interconnected.

    The left also is notorious for being two-faced — for having the very characteristics they accuse their ideological foes of having — and so it’s quite fitting that today’s drudgereport.com has a link to a report about the Clinton Foundation paying its female executives considerably less than it pays its male executives.

    Finally, I recall big-time liberal Oprah Winfrey employing in-studio producers who several years got into a minor flap (which was minor only because Winfrey is both black and of the left) when 2 black women in the audience sitting in the front row were told to move to one of the back rows. Amazingly and gallingly enough, the show’s producers apparently wanted TV viewers to see a heavily white-only audience.

    Liberalism (and its adherents) truly is full of merde.

    Mark (1c327a)

  154. It certainly wasn’t intended to have anything to do with the presidential eligibility clause.

    Are you sure? It used the same term.

    DRJ (15874d)

  155. Hillary, to Cosmopolitan magazine, regarding the CP-time joke:

    It was Mayor De Blasio’s skit. He has addressed it, and I will really defer to him because it is something that he’s already talked about.”

    He’s very tall. He made her deliver that punch line.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  156. Milhouse, I’m enjoying your first-hand reporting from New York, as I’ve enjoyed all of the commenters here describe their respective voting situations.

    You & I share many views, and in our blog commenting, we also a certain tenacity and attention to detail which may strike others, from time to time, as obsessiveness and nitpicking. I get lost in my own prose quite often, but this time I’m lost in yours. Just to help me interpret: On the Cruz birther issue, what do you think is the bottom bottom-line, in a couple of sentences?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  157. It certainly wasn’t intended to have anything to do with the presidential eligibility clause.

    Are you sure? It used the same term.

    Yes, I’m sure. The act had no connection whatsoever to presidential eligibility. There’s no reason the congressmen voting on it would even be thinking about presidential eligibility, especially since the clause we’re discussing wouldn’t even be relevant during their lifetimes.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  158. On the Cruz birther issue, what do you think is the bottom bottom-line, in a couple of sentences?

    The bottom line is that I think Cruz may very well not be eligible, but I no longer care. It’s not justiciable, so there’s no risk that nominating him will throw the election. I’m neither an elector nor a congressman, so even if I were inclined to be a stickler I don’t have to care about it; the clause is not directed to me. And I’d rather have an ineligible president who believes in and supports the constitution than an eligible one who spits on it, especially after all the abuse it’s taken lately.

    As I’m pretty sure I wrote on a previous go-around, I’m reminded of the good king Agrippa I, who cried when he read the law in public, and reached the section that made him ineligible for the throne.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  159. Ah. Okay. I appreciate the explanation.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  160. I should add, to fend off the inevitable question “if Cruz believes in the constitution, why is he running”, that just because I think he may be ineligible doesn’t mean he thinks that. Thus the comparison to Agrippa is inexact.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  161. I’ll take Sally or I’ll take Sue
    Their ain’t no difference between the two
    Spokane Bob, usin’ dildos cuz he can
    Headin’ down Scott, turnin’ up Rose
    Looking for that store that sells dildos
    Spokane Bob, usin’ dildos cuz he can
    hey, Doctor, he’s comin’ in quick
    That old dildo just a li’l too thick
    Spokane Bob, usin’ dildos cuz he can
    Late last night, about a quarter past four
    Church Lady come knockin’ down Bob’s hotel room door
    Where’s the dildo? Said, “It’s over there down on teh floor”
    Bob was talking to his doctor down at the hospital
    He said, “Son, How’d you make that fit, looks impossible”

    Colonel Haiku (384e8e)

  162. There’s no reason the congressmen voting on it would even be thinking about presidential eligibility, especially since the clause we’re discussing wouldn’t even be relevant during their lifetimes.

    It would be relevant to their children and grandchildren, so that makes it something they would care about.

    DRJ (15874d)

  163. There is essential zero chance that the Supreme Court – should a justiciable case somehow reach them – would define “natural born citizen” in any way other than “entitled to US citizenship at birth.”

    That’s what the dicta in earlier cases would lead the court to conclude was the correct definition and no court is going to decide that someone that meets that broadest definition once chosen by the voters should not be seated in office.

    Anyone who thinks that their own, special, narrow definition borrowed from some old British common law treatise is going to prevail is silly.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  164. Colonel,
    Hey
    Back in the day
    It was:

    “Late last night,
    Quarter past four,
    Ralph comes knockin’
    On my dorm room door,
    ‘Where’s the caffeine?’
    There in the pot,
    and rollin’ all ’round my brain.'”

    MD back in Philly!!! (f9371b)

  165. https://www.frcaction.org/get.cfm?i=WA16D22&f=WU16D04

    Then there’s Governor John Kasich (R-Ohio), who would apparently be quite happy running religious people out of the public square. In an interview with “Face the Nation” Sunday, the governor sounded more like Barack Obama than a Republican candidate for president. Like the current administration, he thinks Christians and their views should be driven underground. “I believe religious institutions ought to be protected and be able to be in a position of where they can you know, live out their deeply-held religious purposes.” Like Obama, he only wants religious liberty to exist in the four walls of the church — and nowhere else. Asked if he would have signed the North Carolina law, Kasich replied, “Probably not” (despite admitting he hadn’t read it!). “Why do you need to write a law?” he said (two months after suggesting states write a law). Here’s why, John. Because liberal activists aren’t interested in coexistence. The governor’s solution? “Everybody, chill out,” he went on, “get over it if you have a disagreement with somebody.” Get over it? When families’ houses and lifetime savings are on the line? When their businesses are forced to close because they hold the same views on marriage that Kasich claims to?

    Gerald A (7c7ffb)

  166. Back in those days, it took our diplomats a couple months to make passage each way to western Europe. It’s quite crazy to conceive (pun intended) that if the wife of James Monroe or Thomas Jefferson or John Adams had given birth in London or Paris while her husband was conducting diplomacy, the Founders would consider that offspring to not be a natural born citizen.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  167. Yeah, I heard that interview driving in my car. Good thing I was not going for communion because it did not leave me in a state of grace. No, ladies and “ladies”, freedom of religion and keeping peeping toms out of women’s restrooms is not homophobia. His seeming delusion that he has a shot at the nomination was laugh out funny, though.

    nk (dbc370)

  168. spendy spendy republitrash gonna spend

    Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) blasted Wall Street investors on Wednesday as he tried to tamp down conservative discontent with a bill to assist Puerto Rico.

    The GOP leader charged that “special money interest groups on Wall Street” are trying to sabotage the legislation by billing it as a “bailout.”

    happyfeet (831175)


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