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1/26/2016

Donald Trump 2012: These Republican Candidates Are Cowards for Skipping This Debate!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:03 pm



Contradictions like this change nobody’s mind, but they’re too delightful to ignore:

“We’re not seeing a lot of courage here, are we? Not lots of courage!” said Donald Trump to Megyn Kelly in 2012. He was talking about candidates like Mitt Romney who didn’t want to show up to a debate moderated by Donald Trump. “You know, these Republicans are supposed to be brave.”

Bwahahahahahahaha.

It gets better: he tells Megyn Kelly that she is a great debate moderator, and that he could never do a better job at moderating a debate than her. (Skip ahead to 2:29.)

MEGYN KELLY: [with a mock air of taking offense]: Do you really think you’re a better moderator than I am?

TRUMP: No, I could never beat you. That wouldn’t even be close. That would be no contest. You have done a great job, by the way. And I mean it.

MEGYN KELLY: Thank you. I’m glad we cleared that up.

And he means it.

Hilarious.

(H/t: the Internet. This is everywhere tonight.)

UPDATE:

151 Responses to “Donald Trump 2012: These Republican Candidates Are Cowards for Skipping This Debate!”

  1. And when Donald Trump says he means it, you can take that to the bank, baby.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. You couldn’t manufacture something this embarrassing to him. Megyn Kelly is a great debate moderator and people who don’t show up to debates lack courage.

    Patterico (bcb9f3)

  3. UPDATE:

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  4. These are genuinely rich with irony, and I’m enjoying them.

    Do Trump fans appreciate irony, though? I’m guessing not.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  5. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/26/anti-trump-network-fox-news-money-flows-open-borders-group/
    Good for trump if he can expose fox for loving them some illegals. boosh style…

    mg (31009b)

  6. These debates have been an insult to un enrolled voters. Your party deserves coal.

    mg (31009b)

  7. What about having a replacement debate. No holds barred, a real cage match: Trump Vs. Trump?

    Arizona CJ (da673d)

  8. Will Carly get his spot?

    mg (31009b)

  9. Old Whazzizname can skip whatever debates he wants to skip ’cause of, you know, illegal aliens. It’s infallible logic. And he won’t be afraid to call it a Christmas tree either.

    JVW (d60453)

  10. No holds barred, a real cage match: Trump Vs. Trump?

    I would imagine that both of them would make utter asses of themselves yet somehow rise five points in all the polls.

    JVW (d60453)

  11. boobs on a blonde
    makes trump run,run,run

    mg (31009b)

  12. I love seeing the media and the republican party freaking out over a billionaire and his toupee.

    mg (31009b)

  13. Ailes has put his pretty little pet m.k. in the cross hairs of the trump crowd, should be fun to watch fox crumble.

    mg (31009b)

  14. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/26/anti-trump-network-fox-news-money-flows-open-borders-group/
    fox is a joke and has been for years, when will all the degree holding graduates wake-up?

    mg (31009b)

  15. If you ask a Trump fan what “irony” is, he’ll tell you “It’s what iron is like”.

    nk (dbc370)

  16. The effects of the price drop have been varied and dramatic, in some cases to the advantage of Obama’s foreign policy: Russia’s petro-based economy is dragging, to the detriment of Vladimir Putin. Cut-rate crude also helped the U.S. reach a deal on Iran’s nuclear program without touching off fears that an end to oil sanctions would spark a global price spike.

    this is from a politic article called “Why cheap oil could be bad for Democrats” written by an uncommonly deluded propaganda slut named Elana Schor

    i’ve read that sentence like a dozen times

    it’s so weird to realize you live in a little country so failed and butt-stupid that someone living there can write a sentence like that

    pls to explain

    happyfeet (831175)

  17. oops *politico* article i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  18. pls to explain

    It cannot be that she was hired for her looks http://images.c-spanvideo.org/Files/520/20141118125058012_hd.jpg/Thumbs/height.630.no_border.width.1200.jpg I’m stumped, too.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. And after the debate, I expect Trumps poll numbers to go up even higher.

    Once again, Trump displaying his superiority to the narrative.

    sTevo (583dc0)

  20. oh my

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. 2.You couldn’t manufacture something this embarrassing to him.

    He’s from the Vince McMahon school of politics. Shame and guilt aren’t really on the table.

    JP (56a147)

  22. And he means it.

    It’s anybody’s guess when he really means something.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  23. You guys do realize you have Trump on the Brain, right? And by essentially going All Trump All the Time you are helping him rather than hurting him?

    mark johnson (2941da)

  24. happyfeet, Iran was selling its oil under the sanctions. Clandestinely. At (well) below the spot prices of other places to make the risk worthwhile to the blockade runners. Where Ms. Schor is wrong, I suppose, is assuming that the smugglers would drive down prices by passing on their reduced cost to their customers, the refiners. But why would they do that?

    nk (dbc370)

  25. i tend to agree Mr. johnson there’s SO much happening in the whirl

    it’s not all about knee-capping the republican frontrunner

    there’s evil-doings afoot!

    looks like there’s yet another reason for to expect a further flood of unemployed bottom barrel losers from latin america

    Latin America is gaining momentum when it comes to the region’s minimum wage. According to AS COA, countries like Chile, Colombia, Brazil, Mexico and Guatemala have simultaneously increased their minimum wage after years of recession.

    yikes!

    for context next week we’ll get new jobs numbers

    happyfeet (831175)

  26. happyfeet, Iran was selling its oil under the sanctions. Clandestinely.

    yes yes but the smuggling was already factored in the price – no matter where the iranians priced it it was still a supply side factor

    where schor hooch is fabulously wrong is she should’ve understood this

    Iran is storing at least 30 million barrels of oil on its fleet of supertankers as Western sanctions continue to keep a lid on sales, tanker market sources say.

    there’s no whirl where dropping sanctions would spike prices

    happyfeet (831175)

  27. Inexplicable.

    nk (dbc370)

  28. @19. Ouch! Looks like a face one would see sitting at the Powell Street cable car turntable, seeking cash donations from the tourists…

    Gramps (c50fca)

  29. Big Bang Theory? People assume that plain girls are smart?

    nk (dbc370)

  30. Both Trump and Kelly are way too full of themselves, but what started this whole thing was Kelly being way out of line with her very first “question” (not really a question, but a speech… an indictment). I thought that was something even the leftwing idiots at MSNBC wouldn’t try to get away with. I thought it out of line when I watched it happen and nothing has changed. And then Kelly has Michael Moore on last night to bolster her credibility?!?!

    Pathetic. I officially rescinded my chubwa last night.

    Colonel Haiku (df3a15)

  31. What’s up with this? Inquiring minds want to know:

    From Breitbart’s Julia Hahn, 1/27/16:

    The Anti-Trump Network: Fox News Money Flows into Open Borders Group

    The announcement from Donald Trump’s campaign that the Republican frontrunner will “definitely not” partake in Thursday night’s Fox News debate has sent shock waves throughout the nation’s political scene.

    At a press event Tuesday evening, Trump seemed to cite disparate treatment from the network as his reasoning for not participating. “What’s wrong over there, something’s wrong,” Trump said of the “games” Roger Ailes and the network are “playing.”

    In asking the question of “what’s wrong over there?” Trump has shined a spotlight on one of Washington’s best kept secrets: namely, Fox’s role via its founder Rupert Murdoch in pushing an open borders agenda. The Trump campaign is a direct threat to Murdoch’s efforts to open America’s borders. Well-concealed from virtually all reporting on Fox’s treatment of Trump is the fact that Murdoch is the co-chair of what is arguably one of the most powerful immigration lobbying firms in country, the Partnership for a New American Economy (PNAE).

    ropelight (b8496d)

  32. leggy models need to cut it out with infuriating their dads

    i thought we were past this

    happyfeet (831175)

  33. Ropelight,

    if you’re right that being on Fox helps open borders, why has Trump been on Foxnews over sixty times in the last couple of months?

    Seems like crying ‘squirrel’ instead of an honest explanation. Isn’t it really true that Trump demanded he not face Meghan Kelly, and when he learned he lacked the power to pick the journalists, he simply ducked out of the debate? If this was a schoolyard, he would be laughed at, and I guess most folks are laughing at him.

    Trump has double the negatives as Cruz in polling. That stat will be going up. Americans do not like cowardice. We need a leader who can fight.

    Remember when Cruz challenged the debate moderators? He told them their questions are out of line, citing many examples including an attack on Trump? That’s how a fighter handles this. Can Trump do that without a teleprompter? I don’t think so. Republicans aren’t going to have an easier forum than Fox, so if he’s no up for it, he’s not up for any debates.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  34. “Open borders”. People who oppose the tax on the foreign operations of U.S. corporation, and that includes everybody who comments here except me, are “open borders”. Breitbart has been 1% of what Andrew Breitbart was and 99% Infowars for a long time now.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. Cruz in 2016!!!!

    Hillary! Clinton for Prison in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Colonel Haiku (df3a15)

  36. if you’re right that being on Fox helps open borders, why has Trump been on Foxnews over sixty times in the last couple of months?

    Seems like crying ‘squirrel’ instead of an honest explanation.

    Mr. Ropelight isn’t saying that being on Fox helps open borders

    he’s saying that the fox news propaganda sluts have an open borders agenda, and agenda that may help explain why they so viciously and dishonestly target Mr. The Donald over and above any other candidate in the race, and poor jiggly Megyn Kelly’s obnoxious behavior supports this assertion

    happyfeet (831175)

  37. and *that* agenda that may help explain why

    is what that should say

    happyfeet (831175)

  38. whatever you know what i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  39. Dustin, just prior to the Iowa caucuses Trump threw down the gauntlet against a powerful TV network, the one that’s moderating the upcoming debate. That’s not cowardice, that’s in-your-face brazen audacity – writ large.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  40. it’s *very* audacious i still can’t belieber he did it

    it’s all anyone can talk about!

    Mr. The Donald is taking his case straight to the people, cutting out the trash cable news propaganda sluts

    no wonder people are mad

    he’s like jesus in the temple!

    happyfeet (831175)

  41. Patterico, give this a read. I think it is highly applicable.

    http://www.amyreading.com/inside-the-book/the-nine-stages-of-the-big-con/

    Also, reading Eric Hoffer’s “The True Believer” is helpful.

    Finally, a surprisingly relevant book in these difficult times.

    http://www.mariakonnikova.com/books/the-confidence-game/

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  42. This was the only way he could manipulate the others into attacking Cruz and each other while playing the victim card against all the unfairness.

    As the most Clintonian candidate in the race it’s actually kind of clever. He’s positioning himself to win no matter what happens in the debate and no matter what happens on caucus night.

    crazy (cde091)

  43. oops *trashy* cable news propaganda sluts i mean

    is hard to do the typings this morning

    crap it’s only wednesday too

    happyfeet (831175)

  44. Dustin, just prior to the Iowa caucuses Trump threw down the gauntlet against a powerful TV network, the one that’s moderating the upcoming debate. That’s not cowardice, that’s in-your-face brazen audacity – writ large.

    ropelight (b8496d)

    You didn’t answer my question; you simply rephrased Trump’s behavior with more macho sounding words. That you need to do that at all makes Trump look like a wimp. LARGE WRIT BRAZEN wimp.

    The guy said he would debate on Foxnews if they canned the moderator who was very hard on him. He is scared of her. He’s on record saying she’s a great moderator, and he even has an opportunity to debate Cruz, one on one. Plain and simple, he is afraid of journalists asking him tough questions.

    I don’t trust Trump because he broke his word in many facets of his life. He tells folks what they want to hear to ‘get the deal’, then he abandons his word. Right now, he’s posing on immigration as a hard liner, and I think the last few weeks have exposed how he really plans to betray his immigration reform promises by making ‘such great deals’ with Pelosi and Schumer, who would not agree to anything that we’d like. Suddenly the guy who hosted reality shows and is on Fox 5 days a week is afraid of being on stage with Cruz, having a debate where Trump’s got some very tough questions to answer.

    Instead, Trump says he doesn’t need to answer those questions. The voters deserve better, but Trump doesn’t care.

    I’m actually trying to help his supporters before they are betrayed. Trump is not your friend.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  45. A Bloody Mary might help.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  46. Which question Dustin? Sorry. I took your queries as rhetorical statements. Identify the question, or pose a new one and I’ll respond promptly.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  47. Mr. The Donald is taking his case straight to the people, cutting out the trash cable news propaganda sluts

    Yeah, I know Meghan Kelly is a female, therefore a ‘slut.’

    Trump has had many opportunities to give stump speeches and advertise. Refusing to answer questions, particularly in a debate with the other candidates, is cowardice.

    The last few weeks have seen Trump bash Cruz for being unlikable, this despite Trump’s negatives polling at well over double Cruz’s. Cruz and Trump are exchanging a lot of criticism, and Cruz and Trump were set to hash it out on the debate floor. I think even Trump’s fans know he doesn’t have what it takes to debate Cruz, man to man. Better to take to twitter and send silly little insults. The voters don’t get to benefit from seeing the politician’s feet put to the fire.

    Politicians who are afraid of debates are unworthy.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  48. Sorry. I took your queries as rhetorical statements. Identify the question, or pose a new one and I’ll respond promptly.

    ropelight (b8496d)

    No worries. I was asking why Trump is always on Fox News if being on Fox News is helping open borders so much.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  49. Yeah, I know Meghan Kelly is a female, therefore a ‘slut.’

    oh my goodness that’s sexist Mr. Dustin

    nonono propaganda sluts can be any gender (unfortunately)

    happyfeet (831175)

  50. Taking a step back,
    For a long time public debate has been more about manipulating opinions than fair handed discussion of ideas.
    Trump and Fox are both trying to manipulate the public,
    And probably (but who knows) trying to out-manipulate the other.
    (But could they both be trying to manipulate us more than each other).

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend,
    Played over and over in different reiterations.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  51. Politicians who are afraid of debates are unworthy.

    there’s no evidence at all the Mr. Trump’s decision is based on being afraid of debating

    it’s likely it’s much more calculated than that I think

    I think his view is that his energies are better invested elsewhere rather than indulging a bunch of insipid cable news trash what just want to badger badger badger him with their gotcha gotcha gotchas

    (my understanding is that the Iowa people do their caucus very soon – he may be skipping the debate with an eye on that I think)

    happyfeet (831175)

  52. Entertainment executive Barry Diller, the epitome of a limousine liberal and proud member of the GLBT brigade, is quoted in a story linked on drudgereport.com right now about how five years ago he would have crossed the street to avoid Trump — apparently because he considers Trump a lousy human being — and thinks the “national nightmare” of Trump’s candidacy will be over by around summer. But we’re in a nation-in-twilight type of mess today, facing extremely flawed candidates that cross party boundaries, due largely to the type of people that bigwigs like Diller have supported and touted through the years.

    In actuality, the national nightmare began in November 2008 and the erosion of the dignity of the US presidency really went into overdrive during the time Hillary and her husband, cheered and feted by characters like Diller, occupied the White House. But all the Barry Dillers throughout America will say, “huh, what, me?!”

    Mark (f713e4)

  53. Trump is invited on FOX NEWS for a variety of reasons: he’s news, big news, and FOX wants to be current with the GOE frontrunner, which of course is obvious. Hillary would also be front and center if she wasn’t hiding from anyone who might ask inconvenient questions – there’s your coward.

    From the time Trump entered the race pundits have expected him to self-destruct – say something so stupid it would disqualify him in the eyes of the voters. Time after time those pundits have rejoiced in the expectation that his positions on immigration, sealing the boarder, deportation, Muslim refugees, trade with China, you name it, would put a noose around his neck and rid them of a troublesome man.

    So, TV hosts bring him on hoping he’ll meltdown on their show – not all of them – but enough of them to multiply his appearances beyond what other candidates might expect. Nearly all of them have complained the media focuses on Trump to their disadvantage.

    So much so that in the last debate, hosted by FOX BUSINESS, Trump was pointedly snubbed. Even though he was the clear frontrunner, everyone of the other candidates had a question before the moderators got to Trump. It was rude and intentionally so.

    So, Dustin, those are some of the reasons why Trump is so often on FOX NEWS, and on the other networks as well. However, there is no link between the number of Trump’s on-air appearances and Murdoch’s support for open boarders, other than Trump’s presence increases ratings (especially during debates) and ratings equal ad revenues.

    The link is that FOX is out to get Trump and that’s directly related to Murdoch’s push for open boarders. Murdoch in the assassin – Megyn Kelly is just the hired hit man.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  54. there’s no evidence at all the Mr. Trump’s decision is based on being afraid of debating

    The evidence is as follows:

    Trump has been happy to be on Fox, and I believe has been on there more than any other candidate, so he is very happy to be associated with Fox and be on TV.

    Trump has moderated debates and has harshly criticized candidates who do not show up to debates. He even called not showing up to a debate ‘disloyal’. By Trump’s own mouth, candidates are obligated to show up to debates, out of loyalty to American voters. In other words, Trump is failing to live up to the standards he held for other Republicans and is a pure hypocrite.

    Trump has specifically noted that Meghan Kelly is a great moderator.

    Meghan Kelly was much tougher on Trump than other moderators and Trump’s reaction to Kelly was probably the most embarrassing thing Trump has ever experienced, where he stammered about blood coming out of her wherever. Call that what you want, but Trump lost his composure and even ability to speak properly due to the intimidation he felt, merely from harsh questions.

    Trump was willing to be on this debate, but only if they got rid of Kelly, the person Trump said was a great moderator before she was harsh to Trump.

    Therefore, Trump failing to show up to the debate is based on his fear of harsh questions from Kelly, and probably Cruz, who has opened up on Trump and is obviously a better debater.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  55. yeah I still think that’s a stretch

    “Donald Trump is afraid of Megyn Kelly”

    that’s just not how the world works

    happyfeet (831175)

  56. The link is that FOX is out to get Trump and that’s directly related to Murdoch’s push for open boarders. Murdoch in the assassin – Megyn Kelly is just the hired hit man.

    My bad. I misunderstood you earlier and thought you were saying Trump can’t be on Fox because he’s so anti open borders. I can see now you were saying that Fox is biased against Trump.

    I don’t think Fox is biased against Trump over that particular issue because Trump is pro amnesty and bashed Romney for being too harsh on this issue. While the rank and file Trump fan doesn’t seem to understand that, Fox’s analysts realize Trump is faking it on this issue just as much as they often are.

    However, I agree completely with you that Fox is biased and will make harsh points about Trump. Fox is run by people, many of whom are democrats or otherwise disagree with Trump. Trump has extremely high negatives, double that of Cruz’s, and a lot of people will make digs at him. Kelly wasn’t going to be kind to him. For that matter, all media is biased, and Fox is the least of the GOP’s concerns when you consider CNN, MSNBC, the big three networks, and the two remaining big newspapers. Those guys are outright bloodthirsty towards are candidates, and particularly against Cruz.

    Trump has his reaction, which is to tuck his tail, turn, and run away. And maybe that’s the best bet for him. Romney should have done that before the CNN debate.

    I prefer Cruz’s approach, which was to take the unfair question, explain why it’s unfair, even if it’s an unfair attack on one of Cruz’s opponents. That shows integrity and decisive judgment under fire. But most men do not have decisive judgment under fire. Most men get flustered or pissed off and need to cool down.

    This rare trait is obviously a good one for the most powerful military leader to have, but it also will get them through all the debates with the press that is much harsher than Fox News will be to republicans.

    The bias you’re noting is real, but it’s also a force of nature. My concern with the press is not that they aren’t objective, but that they pretend to be. Trump will have a very rough time as a president if he tries to control the press. Our laws are set up against this, and for good reason. Our leaders just need tougher skin… or they could be democrats I guess.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  57. “Donald Trump is afraid of Megyn Kelly”

    that’s just not how the world works

    happyfeet (831175)

    It’s how Trump talks about human interaction all the time. It’s funny how Trump’s own standards never seem to apply to him.

    If Cruz cried about a moderator and then didn’t show up to a debate, Trump would obviously make the same point I’m making. Trump’s campaign has been ridiculous towards Kelly. The left always shows you who they are afraid of.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  58. Dustin, put down the Kool-aid and walk away. You’ve swallowed the media narrative hook, line, and sinker. Trump isn’t afraid of Megyn Kelly, that’s just the spin designed to avoid questions about FOX’s bias against Trump.

    If FOX et al can spin the issue to Trump’s afraid of the big bad wolf then they won’t have to face scrutiny over their ongoing bias against the people’s clear choice.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  59. as Mr. P points out in the other post

    we have a bunch of cable “news” propaganda sluts aiming to damage the Team R front runner as badly as possible

    who’s afraid of who exactly?

    and how is Fox any different than MSNBC or CNN anymore

    mostly they have hotter bimbos

    happyfeet (831175)

  60. Mark Levin: “Nobody Has More Obsessive Hate For Ted Cruz Than Brit Hume On Fox”

    but lil Ted slavishly and obeisantly kisses their ring

    Mr. Trump on the other hand…

    so tell me

    who’s afraid of who exactly?

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. “We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.”— Franklin D. Roosevelt

    “We have nothing to fear, but Megyn Kelly herself.” —The Donald J. Trump

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  62. The operative phrase is “on Fox”. Does Levin mean nobody on Fox hates Ted more than Brit does, or does he mean nobody in the world hates Ted more than Brit Hume who is on fox does? Because if it’s the later, you know that Levin is wrong, don’t you, happyfeet? 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  63. Dustin, put down the Kool-aid and walk away. You’ve swallowed the media narrative hook, line, and sinker. Trump isn’t afraid of Megyn Kelly, that’s just the spin designed to avoid questions about FOX’s bias against Trump.

    Do you get that, Dustin? Apparently you are the one who is drinking the Kool Aid, not the disciple of Old Whazzizname. This really is the Bizarro Word for conservatives in 2016. Jonah Goldberg has it pretty much right.

    JVW (d60453)

  64. good question

    i just used the headline i don’t listen to Mr. Levin cause of my active lifestyle

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. We, seriously, need a video that is just that part where he’s praising Megyn Kelly. Vine length. Share it everywhere.

    Book (1af09e)

  66. but lil Ted slavishly and obeisantly kisses their ring

    Ted answers questions from a media outlet that is biased against him too. So what? That’s what our president has to do.

    Do you remember how W had to deal with the press? We need someone who is capable of doing it better than he did.

    And anyway, your point is completely backwards. Trump has been on Fox far more than Cruz. usually when Trump is there he bashes his opponents harshly and a bit ridiculously. Most recently, Trump has come on Fox to bash Cruz, saying Cruz is stupid.

    But Trump won’t be on the same stage as Cruz and say it to his face. Trump is the guy talking tough all day, and when it’s time to actually have the debate in person, suddenly he’s ‘making the bold statement of hiding from the debate’.

    If FOX et al can spin the issue to Trump’s afraid of the big bad wolf then they won’t have to face scrutiny over their ongoing bias against the people’s clear choice.

    ropelight (b8496d)

    We haven’t had the election yet. It would be respectful to the American Voter for the serious candidates to show up to the job interview and face the tough questions. This isn’t a job for pizza delivery boy. We’re talking about a job that decides life and death matters. Trump held up a standard in 2012 for GOP candidates, calling the ones who failed to show up for Trump’s debate ‘disloyal’. Trump needs to honor the standards he set for others or he deserves my ridicule.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  67. It’s deja vu all over again. TV talking heads, and the network owners, know what’s best for themselves even if it’s completely wrong for the American people. If the political parties can’t force their preferred candidate for president down the throats of voters any longer, then the establishment media will just have to step up and stab the voters in the back.

    Megyn Kelly is today’s Dan Rather, and FOX is CBS. They’ve dusted off the old playbook, fixed a few mistakes, and put the scam into high gear. Trump must die. These things don’t happen by accident. The establishment has been working overtime to disqualify Trump (and Cruz) so their tried and true insider can take his rightful place at the head of all tables (so long as he plays ball and stays within the prescribed limits).

    And, while they’re at it, just to keep the unwashed occupied, they’ve started a nice little game of Let’s you and him fight.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  68. Good comment, Dustin, and best wishes.

    I adored this comment of yours:

    Trump is the guy talking tough all day, and when it’s time to actually have the debate in person, suddenly he’s ‘making the bold statement of hiding from the debate’.

    It applies to a lot of situations, not just to the Loudmouthed Orange Reality Show Hairpiece.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  69. Do you get that, Dustin? Apparently you are the one who is drinking the Kool Aid, not the disciple of Old Whazzizname. This really is the Bizarro Word for conservatives in 2016.

    JVW (d60453) —

    I chuckled.

    Trump has definitely cultivated a lot of loyalty. I don’t know how much is just because they have very low expectations of Trump, but I also know partly because everyone has been betrayed from all directions, so there’s just no trust for anyone criticizing Trump either.

    Hopefully his fans realize what Trump is doing with them before it’s too late. Supporting Trump is directly aiding amnesty, and also probably aiding the GOP’s ultimate goal for the primary, which at this point is mainly just shutting Cruz down. Somehow Cruz has gotten this far, and like his Senate race, we should stay confident.

    It’s an open question how many of the people talking up Trump will actually pull the lever for Captain Jackass. Some will, but I am sure quite a few will not. These races change so fast once the votes start coming in.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  70. ropelight, Trump and the media have been in a soixante neuf since he announced. He’s been sucking them just as hard as they’ve been sucking him.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Thanks, Simon. Hope you’re doing well too.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  72. nk, either you don’t watch much TV or your batteries should be replaced.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  73. Painted Jaguar (with a sigh):

    Here where the dark, deep, turbid waters of the Amazon flow through the jungle,
    we know a thing or two,
    that perhaps some of you are forgetting in the midst of the business and kerfuffle,

    when the surface of the water ripples,
    it could be anyone of many things that swim, slither, crawl, or wiggle
    in those deep, dark, turbid waters.
    Some are tasty, some will turn the table and make you the prey, and some just aren’t worth the bother.

    There are many things that could be going on here,
    giving dozens of pundits fodder for their punditry.

    Here’s a thought,
    (not that I’m saying it is correct,
    no, I have no idea what is correct,
    I’m just saying that the mind of sinful people can be harder to know that the cause of that disturbance in the water)
    The Repub field as a whole showed MSNBC who is boss by telling them,
    “He** no, we won’t go”
    so maybe Mr. Trump just thinks he will one up them
    (one-upping is what narcissists do);
    and the Fox people…
    what do they advertise? “Fair and balanced”?
    yet a whole bunch of people don’t believe that, now do they?
    What better way to show they are “fair and balanced” by showing they are not cow-towing to the leading Repub candidate?

    I have no idea who is going to come out on top of this who is playing who and how,
    it’s like an episode of “24“,
    except in real life you don’t know who “Jack” is, so you don’t know who will come out on top in the end…
    like when you see the tip of the tail of an Anaconda slipping into the water…
    and you don’t know if it is 8, 18, or even 28 feet long.

    Painted Jaguar (a sockpuppet) (deca84)

  74. Heads up! Rush Limbaugh will opine on Trump’s decision in real-time immediately after the upcoming commercial break.

    ropelight (b8496d)

  75. Some of us know better than drinking funny colored smelly water,
    no matter what the color,
    and no matter who is pouring it.

    (sorry, my paw slipped, wrong thread before)

    Painted Jaguar (a sockpuppet) (deca84)

  76. and how is Fox any different than MSNBC or CNN anymore

    Sometimes I hear people insist CNN or even the New York Times is so biased for republicans and I get a twitch in my right eye because I just can’t accept someone believes that.

    That’s how I read your comment that you can’t tell Fox News apart from MSNBC. Give me a break. For all of Foxnews’s limitations, mainly that they are entertainment rather than information, if a GOP candidate can’t handle them, they can’t handle any of the much more biased to the left outlets.

    Cruz handled tough questions as opportunities. Trump responds to tough questions by stammering in the moment, then taking to twitter for months of anger, like a teenager, really. Trump’s parents probably didn’t say ‘no’ to him enough. Whatever they did also left the guy with a severe sense of inadequacy. Thin-skinned and with his name in 20 foot tall golden letters above every door he owns. Do you guys realize just how dangerous it is to give this guy power? He’s going to be trolled by our enemies and people will lose their lives for it.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  77. Mr. Dustin I get a kick out of Trump whereas I have disdain for Mr. Cruz

    so I like to make comments what put Mr. Trump in a good light and Mr. Cruz in a poor light

    just like how Megyn likes to sneer at the candidates she hates and play up jebbio kasich and marco sleazio

    the thing is I’ll admit it

    whereas Megyn is dishonest trash right to the core of her shallow self-promoting twice-married catholic heart

    she will NOT admit it

    i will pray for her someday when she doesn’t thoroughly disgust me as much as she does right now

    happyfeet (831175)

  78. Patterico: “We’re not seeing a lot of courage here, are we? Not lots of courage!” said Donald Trump to Megyn Kelly in 2012.

    This is not a feud between Trump and Megyn Kelly.

    This is not even a feud between Trump and the Murdoch boys.

    It goes beyond just Rupert and his Anti-American children.

    Why do you think Murdoch INC and Stirewalt are openly bragging that “This race will look totally different, I promise, on Friday than it does today.”

    On the one hand, Rupert and his boys have either lost control of their company, lost their professionalism, or lost their marbles.

    But on the other, what they’re doing makes perfect sense.

    Even from the billionaire crowd, this kind of arrogance is unseemly – and they know it. At this level of the playing field, Trump absolutely has the right to size up Rupert and ask him if this is how he conducts business. Trump can do that because he’s not a bought gelding.

    Stirewalt broke the deal and laughed about it. The business community knows it, but the context is larger than that because “the deal” in this case is not between your average vendor and vendee.

    While small-fry are focusing on foot soldiers like Megyn or even the ailing Ailes…

    …the crowd with a high-angle view is wondering how Murdoch (and his sons) will answer Trump, who’s called out the Chairman of News Corps – something the other candidates would never do, for obvious reasons.

    Trump isn’t stupid, and Murdoch INC tipped their hand a long time ago. It’s been obvious that Murdoch and Stirewalt have been deliberately trying to take down Trump – which is why they’ve “slipped in” this debate, a debate that is not on the original schedule, a debate that Trump had not originally agreed to (none of the candidates had of course), but which they expected every candidate to answer their summons because Murdoch INC is a major shareholder in the Republican Party.

    That’s the groundtruth of this deal that Trump needs to change if he’s ever going to accomlish any of his promises. He knows that, and this latest episode is necessary to lay the groundwork.

    Behind this ridiculous business paradigm was little James’ belief that Trump couldn’t walk away, as if Trump were a dolt buying one of Murdoch’s lemons. But there’s a reason why the Murdochs have been arrogant this entire time, even to go as far as to publicly gloat, so confident that Trump would jump through their hoops;

    The singular divide in America is not – and never was – on the post Cold War Conservative-Liberal spectrum.

    The divide is on the Nationalist-Internationlist spectrum, between Patriots and Globalists (which is the original Conservative-Liberal spectrum).

    The internationalist elite wins all the races because it owns all the horses. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about Koch or Soros, Slim or Bezos. There are trillions of dollars of assets on the balance sheet, financing this dog-and-pony show some call the “US Presidential election”: from commercial real estate to sex-slave rings to semiconductor foundries, and everything in between.

    Why do you think Palin slapped down Cruz?

    Cruz is in this race to occupy a useful “position” which allows the elite to cover (hedge) all its bases.

    It’s possible Cruz had to take money from donors, just as Trump had to do some unsavory things to survive in the business world. But the point is that Cruz took money from the establishment before entering the Presidential race, and he still owes favors/debts – lots of them, whereas Trump is now independent because of his asset allocation and (just as important) his knowledge and courage to use them. Cruz lacks that, if he even realizes he needs them.

    Cruz is a bought gelding; he would never utter Rupert Murdoch’s name, nevermind as an equal. People like Murdoch don’t fear Cruz, knowing – among other things – that he’ll be like a coal miner in a cockpit as President. Not knowing which buttons to push, even Cruz knows he’ll rely on the donor/establishment network to run the government.

    But Trump has a network all its own, one that hails from the original “Conservative” power structure – right down to the McCarthy Anti-Communists.

    These Patriots are the nemesis of the Internationalist/Communist establishment, the original “Right Wing”.

    The Neocons call them “Paleo-Conservatives” if they’re being polite, or “Racists”, “Red-Baiters”, etc if they’re frisky.

    That’s why the establishment elite are expending assets worth billions going after Trump, the horse they don’t own. For those that understand the true history of the Cold War, it’s not hard to understand why. It’s also why so many neocon bloggers like Glenn Reynolds are so hostile to Trump; you would be too if you were a Communist of the Cold War who was forced to admit defeat during the Reagan era.

    Do you really think people like Rupert Murdoch (despite the amateurism of his son) are risking the equity of their assets like Fox News out of a fit of pique? The only reason he left the job to his son initially was because this election cycle was supposed to be “bought out”.

    The temporal power of the prize alone, an asset called the President, provides the equity and power to grant his/her shareholders and bondholders privileged trade advantages, tax exemptions, influence to set monetary policy, divert government largesse, regulatory capture, everything up to and including the destruction of your geopolitical enemies with the most powerful military force on Earth – or protection from those angry rednecks if the American People “mistakenly” suspect your treachery out of “racism”, “bigotry”, “Islamophobia”, etc.

    Nevermind the cascading consequences of the true Conservative ideology “Fortress America” to the “New World Order” should the prize go to a horse that they don’t own. Those are the real stakes in the US Presidential election, the ultimate prize in the Kentucky Derby of the Geopolitical world.

    And as unimaginable as it seems to many Americans, the elite really do view the US elections and its candidates, as horse-races and horses – not as analogies, but as facsimiles. There is no dynamic difference between the two, from the high perch. It’s the best game in town, better than owning an NFL team.

    You buy shares and acquire political candidates, servants, and slaves for your empire as you would acquire a horse, property, or any other asset (and not always with hard currency). Some might think it megalomaniac, but there is a certain logic to it and it’s been the prevailing attitude for millennia.

    It makes perfect sense

    The “certainty” afforded by this system of payoffs, horse-trading, and inbreeding was supposed to “revolutionize the business cycle”.

    The risks are transferred to the hapless taxpayer, the young, the peasantry, etc, because nothing is more dangerous to Warren Buffet than being exposed to “unacceptable” risks, losing because he’s not as wise as he pretends to be, and watching himself or his children being supplanted/humiliated by “dumb” hicks who “got lucky”.

    The whole point of the “crony-capitalist” system is to violate the laws of economic cycles, the “business cycle”, so that people like Buffet, Murdoch, Gates, et al, never have to face the music. The modern aristocracy stays on top in perpetuity no matter how badly Rupert’s kids conduct business, while the country rots from the head and inevitably crumbles.

    That’s the point of all these bad deals America is pushed into, foreign and domestic. It’s beyond the principles of insurance or hedging. It’s the business world’s perpetual-motion machine.

    The Holy Grail: Profit without Risk.

    The elite publicly calls this system “International Cooperation” and “Free Trade”.

    I call it the Utopian Frankenstein on Socialist Steroids, or Karl Marx and Nicollo Machiavelli playing out Shakespeare’s “The Comedy of Errors”.

    Rykehaven (d6b74c)

  79. Cruz is a bought gelding

    i have long suspected this

    happyfeet (831175)

  80. whereas Megyn is dishonest trash right to the core of her shallow self-promoting twice-married catholic heart

    Hey, check out Happyfeet, the family values commenter, making the point that a journalist who was critical of his candidate has been divorced once.

    This candidate has been divorced more than once, but that doesn’t matter.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  81. ropelight has learned from the master, Trump. Some might say ropelight is afraid to debate Dustin but he’s simply following Trump’s lead. Why debate when you can proclaim you’re right and everyone else is wrong?

    DRJ (15874d)

  82. happyfeet doesn’t have a candidate because he doesn’t vote. He has candidates he hates and this year number 1 on his list is Cruz.

    DRJ (15874d)

  83. yes yes thank you for clarifying that for the group DRJ

    happyfeet (831175)

  84. repost from yesterday

    A bit on why Trump declined:
    “Fox News and Google have invited three YouTube personalities
    to ask questions at the Jan. 28 GOP debate — including a Muslim advocate
    who describes Donald Trump as a bigot and who visually portrayed him
    as being in agreement with national socialist Adolf Hitler.”
    HIT JOB, anyone?!
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/26/2868743/

    As far as Cruz asking for a one on one with Trump…
    This puts Cruz in the same position of WEAKNESS as !Jeb! for exactly the same reason: challenging the current leader who has full control of the decision to do it or not (answer: NOT).

    Kauf Buch (a626fa) — 1/27/2016 @ 2:17 am

    Google unmasked whitegenocideTM, and that dude is a Muslim.

    Am I interpreting that right?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  85. I wonder how many of your Stormfront (is that the right codeword catchphrase) types are Muslims doing blackops?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  86. Then Google invites that guy as a questioner to appear at a GOP debate?

    Hey which country does Google represent? They seem to be representing Syria at the moment.

    Why don’t they invite the Ayatollah to Skype in a few gottchas and drop the charade.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  87. Worse that CNN inviting a gay general to hector McCain over Bill Clinton’s policy.

    I didn’t think that was possible.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  88. Ted answers questions from a media outlet that is biased against him too. So what? That’s what our president has to do.

    Watching from outside of the US, I used to cringe seeing clips of Obama complain about Fox bias, or Republicans giving him a hard time.

    Not because Fox, or any other journalistic outfit, is anything to rave about, or because the GOP is always objective or reasonable.

    But because this is the same man who talked about negotiating nuclear arms restrictions, without preconditions, with an Iranian government that is generally less than well-disposed towards Washington. This is the same man who described people being shot in the streets and savagely beaten for protesting a rigged election, by the same regime no less, as “robust debate.”

    Would that he was merely another Kennedy playing the away game side for the Irish Republican Army or the Soviets. No, this fool gets to make policy.

    And he makes it while decrying bad words and mean comment from Fox News.

    JP (56a147)

  89. #83, DRJ, what question would give you like to see me and Dustin debate?

    ropelight (b8496d)

  90. happyfeet doesn’t have a candidate because he doesn’t vote.

    I forgot about that.

    I wonder how many of your Stormfront (is that the right codeword catchphrase) types are Muslims doing blackops?

    Quite a few racial things turn out to be frauds. Still, a Muslim radical showing Trump killing (jewish) Sanders in a gas chamber… that could be a fraud or it could be an idiot seriously praising the concept.

    Doesn’t really matter. I would be very disappointed if Cruz promoted a guy like that. Fraud or not, it’s strange to retweet hateful garbage. Wasn’t that the point of the fraud? To sucker people into supporting or tolerating it? Well I guess we found a taker.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  91. not voting doesn’t mean i’m not politically active

    not by a long shot

    i do many political things what are very impactful so in you face

    happyfeet (831175)

  92. Then Google invites that guy as a questioner to appear at a GOP debate?

    Hey which country does Google represent? They seem to be representing Syria at the moment.

    Why don’t they invite the Ayatollah to Skype in a few gottchas and drop the charade.

    papertiger (c2d6da) —

    That probably deserves its own post. The racial politics these days are amazing. If you’re on the ‘right’ side, you can say and do anything and then put the clown nose on and say you were making a clever point, then take it off and demand to be taken seriously until you’re caught again.

    Google owes everything to the government. It’s gained tremendous wealth with its connections, which come almost entirely at a loss to personal privacy.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  93. Trump retweeted a photoshop of Jeb holding a Vote Trump sign. And even if he had sent a fact finding team to scour the internet for it’s origin he wouldn’t have come up with any significant identification.

    You need to be an internet hosting company like Google to find the nitty gritty.

    Trump was right not to waste the time.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  94. My question: is Rykehaven Sammeh?

    Colonel Haiku (df3a15)

  95. “What’s Teh Frequency, Kenneth Megyn?”

    “What’s teh frequency, Megyn?” is your fanzine, uh-huh
    He was brain-dead, locked out, numb, there was no live feed
    He thought he’d pegged you an idiot’s dream
    A vision from the outsider’s TV screen
    He never understood the frequency, uh-huh
    You wore your short skirts like an armored suit, uh-huh
    He’d studied your career, mother, lawyer, TV, chub-bait in magazines
    Viewers said, “Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy”
    A smile like an angel, tooth for a tooth, forsooth
    He said that bravery was the shackles of youth
    He wore a toupee of bright orange, uh-huh
    He never understood the frequency, uh-huh

    Colonel Haiku (df3a15)

  96. Google unmasked whitegenocideTM, and that dude is a Muslim.

    Am I interpreting that right?

    No, you are not. This has nothing to do with that stormfronter.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  97. Trump retweeted a photoshop of Jeb holding a Vote Trump sign. And even if he had sent a fact finding team to scour the internet for it’s origin he wouldn’t have come up with any significant identification.

    He didn’t need any team. That person’s handle should have been enough to prevent Trump from retweeting it no matter what it was. And no, there is no basis for papertiger’s wild speculation that the person was really Nabela Noor. Papertiger just pulled that one out of his/her sphincter.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  98. 96. Colonel Haiku (df3a15) — 1/27/2016 @ 10:41

    My question: is Rykehaven Sammeh?

    No.

    Although it looks like he borrowed, or, more likely, independently invented, some of my style: The splitting up of a quote into small sections, and writing along reply to each one of them. But he actually only excerpted three words, and only once.

    The comment also is nothing like what I would write. He attacks faceless, nameless people, and things allegedly going on without citing any kinds of details or proof. He’s probably the type opf person to blame the massacre of the Branch Davidians at Waco on “the FBI” or even “the government”

    I blame Bill Clinton and explain why and how he had it done. (to protect Jay William Buford, head of the BATF in Little Rock and one of the planners of the raid, whose name is in the Waco search warrant, who had probably murdered 3 of his own men on Feb 28, 1993 in front of cameras. The fire was started by using CS tear gas, which was only injected right before the fire. President Clinton was working with the cabal in the FBI that created trumped up ethics charges against the Director, William Sessions, whom he later fired but didn’t have the guts to use his legal basis as his announced reason. I can show how the dates in the WACO search warrant match Bill Clinton’s presidential prospects, resuming only after his election, and much much more. The cover-up is actually paper thin.)

    About why Trump did not participate: This is an investment It may cost Trump a little, but he doesn’t need the debate. He’s doing very well in Iowa.

    Trump is hoping to cow reporters in the future. China uses exactly the same tactics. He is trying to get something that the Clintons may have achieved.

    And so did Saddam Hussein.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/opinion/the-news-we-kept-to-ourselves.html

    “Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN’s Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders.”

    The CNN official gives as a reason for not reporting, though, possible harm to their own people, and others, rather than losing access.

    There are all kinds of governments that do this. Iran does this thing also, although they arrest reporters, too.

    Trump calculates that news organizations need him more than he needs reporters. Fox is now trying to show they can hurt Trump.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  99. My question: is Rykehaven Sammeh?

    Not possible. They’re as opposite as one can get.

    Milhouse (87c499)

  100. happyfeet, is it true that you don’t vote?
    Damn, I would think that someone who has as many nasty things to say about candidates and their supporters as you do would be out there punching a ballot. Especially if you believe that the country is in peril.
    (LOL)

    Then again, it’s easier for a guy to spout off on the internet than it is to wait in line at your local civic center for ten minutes on a Tuesday night every other year.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  101. “And no, there is no basis for papertiger’s wild speculation that the person was really Nabela Noor. Papertiger just pulled that one out of his/her sphincter.”

    Not physically impossible, but highly improbable. It’s more likely a case of you projecting your modus operandi.

    Colonel Haiku (df3a15)

  102. ropelight #91:

    91.#83, DRJ, what question would give you like to see me and Dustin debate?

    I’m glad you are open to a discussion. To me, the topic of the post and Dustin’s comments is that Trump is being inconsistent and/or has thin skin. For example, Trump is refusing to debate now but, in prior elections, he claimed that people who refused to debate were cowards. In addition, Trump has said Kelly is a good moderator but now he says she is terrible. It’s easy to imagine that his positions have changed because it’s his ox being gored.

    I understand that Trump supporters might not agree but I want to know why — with reasons and any evidence supporting the reasons.

    DRJ (15874d)

  103. Also, I’m interested in what principles you think Trump would not compromise and which ones he would compromise. Politics involves compromise but it appears everything is open to compromise with Trump. I know he thinks he is the best dealmaker in the world but even if he is, having principles means some things aren’t open to compromise. I don’t get that feeling from Trump, which suggests he doesn’t have any guiding principles beyond promoting himself.

    DRJ (15874d)

  104. actually neil munro turned up the tidbit, recall the treatment when he spoke truth to power, re Obama,

    narciso (732bc0)

  105. happyfeet,

    I don’t care whether you vote. I don’t vote in many elections, especially State and local elections when I don’t have a good idea who or what to vote for. In fact, I think it’s good to abstain from voting in those situations. Maybe that’s the case with you, too, but my impression is that you do not like the policies of the religious right and you oppose any candidate who embraces those policies. If so, then I think you should be honest about the motives behind your comments.

    To put it more succinctly, I think the unifying theme in your comments is that you oppose candidates who are pro-life and/or oppose SSM. If that’s true, then own it and explain why it’s so important to oppose those candidates and the principles they support.

    DRJ (15874d)

  106. Sean Trende at RCP on The Meaning of Trump:

    While there certainly has been a strong element of nationalism and populism within the Tea Party, Trump has not been attempting to rile up those who are angry that the GOP is not sufficiently ideologically pure. In fact, Trump’s support has largely been spread across the party, with substantial strength among moderate and liberal Republicans.

    So the attempts to attack him for his lack of conservative bona fides have been ineffective because they were largely directed at voters who were not likely to vote for Trump in the first place. Likewise, attacks on his buffoonish-ness, his hair, and his more-than-occasional mean-spirited comments had little effect on his supporters, many of whom feel looked-down-upon by business, media, and political elites in both parties because they themselves don’t look right or talk right. His attacks on Megyn Kelly didn’t hurt him much because his supporters aren’t the most dedicated Fox News watchers. Again, those are more likely to be Cruz voters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  107. DRJ, you give the fellow far, far too much credit for intellectual consistency. He just likes to kvetch and say offensive things and not think about consequences.

    Come to think of it, a sort of natural Orange Toupee supporter.

    Simon Jester (8baac0)

  108. you oppose candidates who are pro-life and/or oppose SSM

    is not that simple

    i supported walker even though he had some pretty loopy social con views

    cruz is way over the top with this stuff though

    it’s not normal – it’s weird and retro and way too 700 clubby

    he makes me uncomfortable

    the whole social con agenda is just really obnoxious I think given the enormous problems facing real americans – the ones what don’t have time for all this pre-packaged dogmatic maundering

    blech

    i just have no patience with it anymore

    and you know what that’s ok

    happyfeet (831175)

  109. yes, he doesn’t like strong women, or fetus, perhaps furry animals, I haven’t enquired enough on the matter,

    narciso (732bc0)

  110. happyfeet

    everybody a whore

    or trash

    heh, heh, heh

    i like the masculine northeast liberal becuz he so manly and stuff

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  111. all our shale friends are gonna lose their jobs it makes me so sad

    perverted saudi royal trash i hate them so much

    happyfeet (831175)

  112. shale friends are the real foes of the Sauds, they can begger down the alternatives like they did the 80s, provoking the S&L crisis,

    narciso (732bc0)

  113. it’s economic warfare and it’s very rude

    happyfeet (831175)

  114. they just have no class whatsoever to speak of, these saudis

    happyfeet (831175)

  115. and there’s a fresh, new bipartisan bill, by Mxlpldk, and Harwood’s main squeeze, Cantwell, all in all we are the best of all possible hands,

    narciso (732bc0)

  116. Members of the Iowa football team were placed in a remedial English class. “Because we are all new on campus we are going to start with the basics,” the professor explained. “Does anyone know what comes after a sentence?” All of the players raised their hands. “The appeal!” they all shouted with pride.

    mg (31009b)

  117. mg!

    nk (dbc370)

  118. Minnesotans know plenty of Iowa jokes, nk.

    mg (31009b)

  119. DRJ, this kind of helps me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffhQMQsxd9Y

    Again if the braggy braggy loudmouth orange hairpiece cries wee wee wee and hides from the debate….well, just maybe the other participants can debate issues and specifics. And maybe he will too.

    That would be a good thing.

    Until then, I will listen to the chorus of that video.

    Simon Jester (8baac0)

  120. oh frabjous joy, why do we have a Republican Senate in the first place

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/us/politics/senate-bipartisan-energy-legislation.html?_r=0

    if wilhemina wright and other scurrillous denizens, escape from there,

    narciso (732bc0)

  121. The bill would also deliver a long-sought victory to conservationists by permanently authorizing the national Land and Water Conservation Fund, a program for protecting and maintaining national parks and wilderness sites.

    because the piggy-fascist failmerican government doesn’t own enough land

    murkowski is a meghan’s coward daddy knee-padder from the git-go

    i hope this bill fails

    happyfeet (831175)

  122. happyfeet,

    you care so much about america’s future that you don’t even vote.

    that’s caring.

    you should be in charge of the salvation army or whatever. maybe not the american army—but the salvation army.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  123. yes yes this election in particular is beneath my dignity Mr. Supporter

    it’s just so tawdry

    happyfeet (831175)

  124. mister happy feet

    that so funny

    for all your big talk, you finally admit there’s no consequences to the election outcome.

    squishy squishy hillary hillary

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  125. “And no, there is no basis for papertiger’s wild speculation that the person was really Nabela Noor. Papertiger just pulled that one out of his/her sphincter.”

    Not physically impossible, but highly improbable. It’s more likely a case of you projecting your modus operandi.

    So colonel, what basis do you suppose might exist for papertiger’s speculation?

    Milhouse (87c499)

  126. the stakes are not nearly what they were when weirdo mitt handed a second term to food stamp

    this next term – no matter who wins – it’s all about trying out fun new failure management techniques

    happyfeet (831175)

  127. mister happy feet,

    that’s so funny and baby talk goo goo ga ga funny how you talk about consequences from the 2012 election, but you claim that this forthcoming election doesn’t have consequences.
    oh my god. irony. and stuff.

    each election has consequences, some of which are not visible for a number of years. but for a guy like you who lacks conservative principles, we see why you’re so goo goo ga ga about a northeastern liberal such as Donnie Trump.

    i’m just guessing—are you in favor of same sex marriage?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  128. i’m a very very staunch conservative Mr. CS

    ask anyone

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. Hey, happyfeet, let’s see if you are a Chicagoan yet. Name three Chicago streets that rhyme with vagina.

    nk (dbc370)

  130. oh yessss mister feet, you’re a staunch conservative, that’s why you support Donnie Trump, same sex marriage, abortion, withdrawal from Iraq, and you call Fox News wh*re trash crapola.

    blah blah blah.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  131. paulina?

    happyfeet (831175)

  132. that’s all i got

    happyfeet (831175)

  133. oh yessss mister feet, you’re a staunch conservative, that’s why you support Donnie Trump, same sex marriage, abortion, withdrawal from Iraq, and you call Fox News wh*re trash crapola.

    i didn’t support withdrawal from Iraq until food stamp surrendered it to his Al Qaeda ISIS friends

    now the writing’s on the wall that our super-expensive money-burning failmerican military needs to stay home take a timeout and think about what it wants to be when it grows up

    happyfeet (831175)

  134. you ain’t got much, mister unhappyfeet.
    you so big talk and goo goo ga ga baby talk. you like the northeastern liberal. but you claim, “i’m the conservatives’ conservative!”

    can i get a what what?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  135. i have TWO turtles

    happyfeet (831175)

  136. Paulina,
    Melvina, and Lunt.

    nk (dbc370)

  137. lol!

    that took me a second

    happyfeet (831175)

  138. shirley you can’t be serious,

    narciso (732bc0)

  139. happy happy feet feet,

    you like the northeastern liberal.
    becuz you be a real conservative. and all this.

    can i get a what what? can i get a huh huh?

    donnie be so hot wit’ his squirrel hairpiece and squirrelly demeanor.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  140. “And no, there is no basis for papertiger’s wild speculation that the person was really Nabela Noor. Papertiger just pulled that one out of his/her sphincter.”
    Not physically impossible, but highly improbable. It’s more likely a case of you projecting your modus operandi.

    So colonel, what basis do you suppose might exist for papertiger’s speculation?

    Milhouse (87c499) — 1/27/2016 @ 4:15 pm

    I wasn’t referring to papertiger’s “speculation”, milhouse, but to your accusation of ass-pulls. You are known for often insisting on being the self-designated arbiter of nearly any issue that you opine on and usually base it on data or info that reeks of what must be your lower digestive tract.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  141. Mr. Trump is for amusement purposes only

    he’d be a very entertaining president i think and everyone could have fun while he does president stuff

    not fun like laser tag more like fun where you just kinda don’t take politics super-serious for awhile

    we deserve that

    especially after food stamp’s dreary endless rape-fest

    happyfeet (831175)

  142. happy feet,

    for a guy who claims to be interested in laser tag, you sure do make a lot of comments about how people should vote.
    which is amusing, since you’ve admitted that you don’t vote.

    but at least you admit to being a fraud.

    huh?
    can i get a what what? can i get a vote vote?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  143. my vote is not super important if that changes i might would reconsider

    happyfeet (831175)

  144. mister happy feet, at least you finally admit to being a fraud.
    but for a guy who makes as many big pronouncements as you do, it’s kind of hilarious to hear that you don’t actually vote. you’re just the big talker down at the donut shop.

    “mister happy feet, would you like a glazed donut with your coffee?”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  145. yes please

    happyfeet (831175)

  146. mister happy feet, you probably would enjoy a glazed donut—and a rainbow donut, huh?
    although, i imagine you already have a glazed look about your eyes. then again, you’re all about donut holes, right?

    can i get a what what?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  147. there’s our boy, happy feet.
    just like donnie, there’s a lot of big talk, but when there’s a little push back, he’s not so outspoken. what? what?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  148. happyfeet is happyfeet, CS. We all know where he’s coming from.

    nk (dbc370)


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