A Police Officer And Man Of God Killed; A President Pushes For Stricter Gun Control
[guest post by Dana]
Two updates regarding the shootout yesterday at a Planned Parenthood facility.
First, about the police officer killed during the shootout:
Garrett Swasey, 44, the University of Colorado Colorado Springs police officer who was shot and killed while responding to a shooting at a Planned Parenthood office, was described by his fellow church members and friends as a courageous man and loving father who drew strength and inspiration from his Christian faith.
He was married, with two young children, and had been on the campus police force for six years. He also spent seven years as a co-pastor at Hope Chapel in Colorado Springs.
Swasey’s co-pastor, Scott Dontanville, stated that although Swasey was against abortion, it would not have played a part in his decision to answer the call to help those whose lives were in danger:
“I don’t think that was on his mind,” he said. “He was there to save lives. That’s the kind of guy he is.”
Another fellow pastor of Swasey’s, Kurt Aichele remarked:
Swasey frequently responded to dangerous calls off campus. One of his bedrock beliefs was putting other people’s lives before his own.
“It’s not the first time that he’s been placed in harm’s way,” he said. “He’s an absolute man of courage.”
Secondly, President Obama made a statement about the shootout. As we have come to expect from him in the aftermath of these tragedies, he took advantage of the opportunity to push for more gun control. This less than 24 hours after the Officer Swasey’s death:
–Dana
Good morning.
Dana (86e864) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:59 ampimp that dead cop obama pimp his still-warm corpse
that’s a good boy
I knew you’d know what to do
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:02 amOn a side note, it is being reported that no Planned Parenthood employee or patient was injured in the shootout, and that officials have not found any evidence that would show that PP was the target. Further, this on the shooter:
Dana (86e864) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:17 amThis is not normal.
You’re not normal, Barry.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:34 amwhere is the President’s statement about the New Orleans shooting that took place last weekend?
PeterK (ded1e4) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:35 amOblather has already made it known that the remainder of his term will be about executive ordering gun control – what do we expect?
in_awe (faf180) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:35 amMore links here. He looks and sounds like he may have mental health issues.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:36 amHe looks and sounds like he may have mental health issues.
The guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
What a shame, really.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:42 amLiberal double standards are annoying, especially in a President. An attack on a PP facility is evil and bad (which is true), but Obama has also called the #BLM movement (that blames and attacks the police) a legitimate issue. Apparently some violence and hate is good.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:46 amB. Hussein Obama’s statement refers to an assault weapon. I have seen no reporting that would indicate that the shooter had a weapon that was capable of automatic fire. He also refers to “weapons of war” that are used on the streets of America. Try as I might, I haven’t found any news stories that would indicate that crew-served machine guns, mortars, hand grenades, or 155mm howitzers have been used on America’s streets by civilians recently.
CeeBeeBee (b2dd2d) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:47 amExcuse me Mr President, but the man was a police officer. Cop is considered derogatory by many and shouldn’t be used in a formal statement by any government official.
Have some respect (713654) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:47 amA few shootings have been terrorists, like in France, but most of the American shootings appear to be people with mental health issues. That isn’t as easy for Obama to demagogue, especially since loosening the options for the mentally ill was a policy engineered by the Democrats — largely via the ACLU’s efforts to deinstitutionalize the mentally ill. But they don’t really want to help people. They want to control people.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:56 amI’d be appalled if a conservative president came out and dealt with the killings yesterday by saying something about the sanctity of life and how it begins at conception or should never be ended by the third trimester.
BTW, it might seem flippant to question the mental health of the guy currently in the Oval Office or to become very irritated that he’s blatantly politicized the deaths in Colorado. But the following is a reminder that, in general, he’s emotionally and attitudinally a nut.
Obama is NOT a good man.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:57 amThis is another psychotic shooter and one report is that he is registered to vote, Not as Republican but as a woman !
Time to do something about psychosis.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:05 amIf that is an Obama quote someone should inform the idiot the medal is The Medal of Honor and is awarded by the President in the name of Congress, itself having nothing to do with it. Only a self-absorbed leftist C in C could fail to know the proper term for an award only he can present. Every day this man gets worse and worse. And Mark, not only is he not a good man he is not a good person, a good Christian, a good American or a good President.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:14 amBTW, they stated he had a voting record. Is it a secret?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:15 amMy cousins daughter, it has been the worst.
mg (31009b) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:18 amWe grew up 4 blocks away- kids of twin fathers.
I have no piss and vinegar left.
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/27/family-of-missing-woman-asks-public-for-help/76478768/
A very lovely young lady, mg. My prayers are with you and the family.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:22 amoh god that’s awful
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 10:26 amHe never was. He had been poisoned from the start as a red diaper baby.
Bill H (2a858c) — 11/28/2015 @ 11:11 amAnd the media continues to spread the lies…
“Critics, many of whom seek to outlaw abortion in the United States, have falsely accused Planned Parenthood of selling fetal organs and body parts for profit, and encouraging women to have abortions in order to expand such operations.”
– Daniel Woolls, Yahoo News
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/28/2015 @ 11:15 amI’m so sorry mg. God help her.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/28/2015 @ 11:24 amthoughts and prayers with you and the family, mg.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/28/2015 @ 11:46 amthoughts and prayers, mg
narciso (732bc0) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:21 pmMr. Pro-choice in Chief is reliably selective in his perspective.
n.n (0b901a) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:27 pmNo comments from republican candidates I wonder why ????
whitley (ac11e1) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:28 pmif they comment they should comment that valerie’s little boy obama is a sleazy dead cop pimping whore Mr. whitley
otherwise why bother you know
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:40 pmFifty years ago the liberals pushed to empty the state mental hospitals. This is the consequence. Now , as always, the solution to one government screw up caused by some liberal policy is more government intervention. How many of the mass murders we’very seen in the last 50 years would have been prevented if the state mental hospitals had not been drained?
jim (a9b7c7) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:50 pmoh my goodness failmerica’s fascist whore government can NOT be trusted with mental hospitals
they’ll put a Lois Lerner in charge and then guess what happens?
bad stuff Mr. jim
really dark and bad stuff
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:56 pmWhitley – your bibble babble is special.
JD (0e5c29) — 11/28/2015 @ 1:15 pmno creativity, don’t use the same sentences as Think Regress,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/28/2015 @ 1:23 pmWhitley,
Perhaps because they have some genuine humanity and concern for others,
and reserve judgement until facts are known?
It is really telling how useless most of the comments from liberals on this site are. We know how little censoring is done here, Obama’s own press people could be “jammin” here all day long and no one would stop them, only call them on it…
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/28/2015 @ 1:59 pmand yet the most they can do is give irritating yaps and nips at the heel.
And in their epistemologically closed circles they think they know it all.
May the hero police officer and the other victims rest in peace.
My take on the event; until we know the how and the why, there’s not a lot to say.
Obama sinks to yet another low by using the dead to score political points. That’s beyond disgusting. He doesn’t even know how the shooter got the guns. Obviously, this and his past uses of the innocent dead in such attacks show he’d much rather score cheap political points before the bodies are cold than to wait for facts.
Arizona CJ (331a26) — 11/28/2015 @ 2:25 pmI have an even better question: what would you like to hear from them?
Bill H (2a858c) — 11/28/2015 @ 3:15 pmWhitley,
Ted Cruz posted a statement on his Facebook page:
Dana (86e864) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:05 pmSimple, non-political, and focused on the right things.
Further, Whitley, you can check each GOP candidate’s FB page and I’m sure you will find a statement of sympathy posted. Will they be political in nature? Likely not. That is for the classless political hustlers and whores who prefer another side of the aisle. But sure you are quite familiar with them.
Dana (86e864) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:10 pmNBC Nightly News reported that, of the Republican candidates, John Kasich and Ted Cruz
Sammy Finkelman (4d9cfa) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:10 pmhad so far issued statements. (both saying something about prayer)
800+ murdered in the streets of chicago and not one peep out of president urkel.
el polacko (8c440a) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:18 pmi wonder why ?
Also, Whitley, what is more unseemly: Democrats like the president and Hillary and Bernie exploiting a heinous tragedy to push their political agenda, or other candidates not drawing attention to themselves just to be heard??
Dana (86e864) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:27 pmWait a minute!
How about a little consistency, Obama.
Recently he blamed terrorism — as in the non-Islamic ISIS Islamic Terrorists’propensity for terror on Global Warming.
Fix Global Warming, and you fix gun deaths… got it???
PTS (ce7fc3) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:33 pmwow
score one for the Center for Medical Progress
or is it 3?
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:48 pmNor a peep out of Whitley either. I guess black lives don’t matter when their blood is shed on the altar of leftism in Chicago.
Hey Whitley, how about you make a statement about all the blacks dying in that ninth circle of leftist hell, Chicago, run by and for leftists for 70 years?
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/28/2015 @ 4:53 pmI guess black lives don’t matter when their blood is shed on the altar of leftism in Chicago.
this is not a conclusion what involves guesswork
16 shots 13 months
chicago pd baby oh yeah
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 5:13 pmHe’ll be an ex-President soon. Then we can pass a law exempting ex-Presidents who favor gun control from having to be surrounded by men with guns.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/28/2015 @ 7:45 pmHe may want to, but I don’t see what executive orders he could possibly make that would result in anything like gun control.
At worst he might get a few hobbyists classified as dealers, and some of them will give it up rather than bother with the paperwork, while others will just take it as a sign to go into it full time. But every time that proposal comes up the ATF says they don’t want it, because they like the “flexibility” of having no official definition of who’s a dealer, so they can make it up as they go along. Imposing a fixed definition on them would probably be a good thing for the 2nd amendment. Go 0bama!
What else might he be able to do? Anyone?
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:08 pmTwenty years ago Garrett Swasey was a national level or almost national level, figure skater, and he and Nancy Kerrigan were childhood friends and even skated together.
Sammy Finkelman (4d9cfa) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:16 pmWhy only ex-presidents? Why not allow anyone who is hoplophobic to decline this service, or to request that their bodyguards be armed only with weapons that are approved by the Brady bunch?
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:23 pmAn Open letter to gun grabber Obama, Hillary and the Supreme court
To begin on a positive note, let’s start with thanking you for making the colossal mistake of admitting the obvious to us all:
That you do indeed want to CONFISCATE our guns with your endorsement of gun control Australian style
In most cases, gun grabbers wait until they passed the step of promising not to do so and conning people into registration (always a necessity in taking the people’s means of self defense) before talking CONFISCATION, but you and your fellow travelers “jumped the Gun” and started to believe your own hegemony.
This is all fine and dandy with many of us – we find your new found honesty about your Socialism and a love for gun Confiscation to be quite refreshing as of late, but I digress….
Perhaps you and your comrades have underestimated the people, that we weren’t paying attention and didn’t notice this egregious blunder on your part.. sorry to break the news to you, but we did.
And with Al Gore’s creation of the internet, we can spread news of this far and wide. So the cat’s out of the bag and you ought to acknowledge the truth for all time.
None the less, I do have some more pressing matters to discuss with you on guns and your obsession with stealing them from us.
Let me make a few things perfectly clear to you .
1. You can forget for your statist fantasies about controlling our Private property through Intergalactic Background Checks.
(Intergalactic is decidedly more ‘comprehensive’ than universal, don’t you agree? I though you would)
You people barely have the authority to control this over state lines with the atrocious Wickard V. Filburn decision, but you surely DON’T have the authority to control my private property and my selling something to a neighbor down the block.
But go ahead and get another ruling that once again rips apart the founding documents and the rule of law. As a nation we’re getting mighty close to not given a flying fornication what 9 citizens on the supreme court have to say on this or any subject. So keep pushing the boundary boys and girls, one of these days we’re going to ignore your rulings like you ignore the rule of law.
2. We aren’t Registering anything with you people.
Never mind that history has shown the sequence to be registration, Confiscation, annihilation..
Never mind that you have already admitted that is just an incremental but necessary step to confiscation.
And never mind that you think you’ve fooled people into believing your Bull cookies about “Gun Safety”
No, the Good lord has granted us the natural right of self defense and you aren’t taking that away under ANY circumstances…
If you doubt our resolve on this point, may I to refer you to the socialist red state of New York and other environs who have steadfastly refused your Stalinist dictates.
No, we don’t need your Permission to defend ourselves – We already have that, thank you very much.
Did you miss the memo from well nigh over 200 years ago from the people about the consent of the governed? [And I’m talking the citizens of the US, not the golden horde of imposters you’ve been willfully bringing in over the border to tip the balance and destroy the nation]
So you can stuff your tyrannical dreams of registration where the sun don’t shine, It’s not happening.
3. And we for dang sure aren’t going to let you confiscate our means of defense from a tyrannical government. But that should be obvious to you by now.
So go ahead and knock yourself out passing all manner of new laws and regulations, or new supreme court decisions that trample on the very documents you swore to protect.
You people have very capably demonstrated the art of ignoring the rule of law, and if you can do it – SO CAN WE THE PEOPLE!
Anonymous
Anonymous (c40eac) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:23 pmyes yes if only failmerica had had more guns president food stamp would never have happened where the sun don’t shine
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:41 pmMurder is at an all-time low.
Michael Ejercito (d74b61) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:09 pmoh great now we’re sweden
that’s just effing great
happyfeet (831175) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:16 pmSeven years ago, I came up with the perfect solution.
Michael Ejercito (d74b61) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:20 pmIt has been reported that the suspect was an oddball who regularly smoked marijuana. That raises some questions. Did he move to Colorado so he could use pot legally? Was he high when he committed these crimes? (His mug shot suggests he might have been.) Was this crime in part a consequence of Colorado’s experiment with more permissive drug laws?
Maybe Obama should be pushing for stronger drug laws, not gun laws.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 2:03 amRev, happyfeet, papertiger, Col. and narciso, my family thanks you all for the thoughts and prayers.
mg (31009b) — 11/29/2015 @ 3:04 amFrom me, too, mg. I’ve been running around and I just saw your comment.
nk (dbc370) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:02 amJesus, it’s cold out there. I hope you find her hail and hearty with an interesting story to tell.
Good luck mg.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:11 ammg,
I pray for a good result and that you can stay strong for your family during this terrible time. I know you can help them because you are courageous and caring.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:52 amI wonder if the suspect had any of these symptoms of chronic marijuana use or consumption of higher potency marijuana:
Studies show that Colorado pot is much more potent than illegal pot.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:13 amMg – please accept my thoughts and prayers in such a trying time.
JD (3b5483) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:40 ami don’t smoke but sometimes i need a long drag
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:41 amare they intoxicating blasts of stupefaction? or stupefying blasts of intoxication? In the end, I guess it’s all teh same.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:45 amI find it interesting how the press is pushing the anonymous sources who claim he said something about “no more baby parts” as if that would condemn the entire pro-life movement,
and pictures of his “cabin” (shack in my book) that highlight the “cross made of twigs/sticks” on the wall, as if the presence of a cross explains all.
Haven’t seen a picture of the policeman hero’s home or church where he was one of the part-time pastors. I bet there may be a cross, or a Scripture verse on a painting, somewhere there.
Obama says take a gun to a knife fight, no big deal;
ad talks about “targeting” certain political races, and it is claimed it instigated an assassination attempt.
Yes, prayers for mg and his family,
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 9:29 amand others with life situations some version of unpleasant, such as holidays apart from children due to divorce, first holiday without a family member, illness, and other hardships and heartaches
I don’t know which is sadder and more disgusting, the people who make such points,
or the people who believe them.
I don’t know which is sadder and more disgusting, the people who make such points,
or the people who believe them.
Sorry, that was not in the proper place, should have been higher up in the post.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 9:30 amthe cmp propaganda was designed to elicit an unthinking emotional response Mr. Dr.
getting all up inside this wack job in colorado’s head is just an indication they did a good job
it’s not a whole lot different than how this wacko twisted off recently
in a large enough population you’re bound to have a handful of weirdos who react weirdly and do weird stuff
just cause the snowflake fascists at failmerica’s dismal universities are pansies doesn’t mean people don’t get for reals triggered on the odd occasion
you always have your outliers
it’s like the super duper teensy handful of incidences of yobbery and mayhem we get on black friday every year
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 9:46 amDemocrats like the president and Hillary and Bernie exploiting a heinous tragedy to push their political agenda, or other candidates not drawing attention to themselves just to be heard??
That calls to mind the memorial service held for the Democrat senator from Minnesota, Paul Wellstone, who died in a plane crash back in 2002. The service took place in a large arena and it turned into a political rally. I know at least one of the Republican dignitaries who was there (among those not told by the liberal organizers to stay away—and some of those who did attend were roundly booed by the crowd) was so turned off by the spectacle that he wanted to walk out.
Keep in mind Obama’s inappropriate reaction the day after Nidal Hasan murdered many people at Fort Hood.
Etc, etc.
Liberalism rots both a person’s common sense and his true decency and compassion too. Isn’t that ironic? Well, maybe it’s not.
Mark (f713e4) — 11/29/2015 @ 10:12 amWe know Obama wants to politicize gun crimes because he’s admitted that’s what he’s doing. He should at least acknowledge that gun owners stop criminals, too.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 10:58 amNevertheless, I condemn this suspect ino matter why he did this, including if he attacked the PP facility and the people there because of abortion. That is not pro-life. It’s the opposite of pro-life.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 11:06 amNo, feets, the CMP work was informative and evoking an emotional response to motivate.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 11:10 amno the propaganda was very very misleading
one way you can tell is cause of how the cmp kept screeching that all these laws were broken
and then red state lifeydoodle governors started all these investigations
and came up with nothing
but if you watched the propaganda, as I did, you would’ve very much come away with the impression that there was criminal activity taking place
you’d also get the impression I think that fetal tissue procurement for research was super widespread
can you even tell me how many planned parenthood clinics collected fetal tissue for research i bet you can’t
cause the point of the videos was not to inform it was to agitate and send people off half-cocked all willy nilly
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 11:27 amThanks for spitting out the sophist talking points from planned parenthood and their enablers, Happyfeet. You are a loyal foot soldier.
JD (3b5483) — 11/29/2015 @ 11:38 amit’s no good pretending manipulative propagander videos are an encyclopedia article, as some do
propaganda is propaganda Mr. JD
failmericans lurv to slurp up the propagandas
drudge has a whole round-up of the climate change propaganda what failmericans are getting fed bucketfuls of this week
it’s just part of the failmerican culture
being in denial about this is no bueno, and so me i try to make a point of noticing when the information i’m being presented with is appealing more to my emotions than my logics
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 11:47 amPropaganda is what you call it when it argues against what you want to think.
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:17 pmWhat else might he be able to do? Anyone?
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:08 pm
Truly this dense you are? Do anything he damn well pleases he can as long as RINOs like McConnell in charge they are! No checks and balance as he sees fit, he does!
Yoda (feee21) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:17 pmPropaganda is what you call it when it argues against what you want to think.
that’s too reductive Mr. Dr. let’s define some terms
and you can tell the CMP is doing the propaganda on people cause of it’s very simple
watch the propaganda videos again and then ask yourself this: if the fetal tissue isn’t used for research what happens to it?
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:22 pmGood little footsoldier
JD (3b5483) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:34 pmam not
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:35 pmPremeditated murder is what it is. Elective abortion is premeditated murder.
Planned cannibalism is also simply that. Murdering, harvesting, and consuming human organs, tissue, and clumps of cells is planned cannibalism.
The motives of either can be judged independently of the actual action.
As for propaganda, principles matter. The intrinsic or exceptional value of human life should not be considered lightly. The slippery slope from premeditated murder to planned cannibalism is a path taken. Planned Parenthood is just one institution in a cult that leads the establishment of a pro-choice quasi-religious doctrine.
n.n (0b901a) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:35 pmn.n., there is nothing “quasi” about anything preached by the left. It’s a religion just as sure as Islam is, and just as destructive.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27) — 11/29/2015 @ 1:06 pmJustice Thomas was in the headlines seeking to restore separation of powers, returning those that belong to congress from where they have been deferred to the executive. (just read a blurb-can’t find it now)
The SCOTUS Justice I have the most respect for is the black guy.
Strange. People tell me I’m a racist.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/29/2015 @ 1:38 pmMr. Instapundit linked this George Will column today Mr. tiger
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 1:39 pmThank you, Mr. Feet
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/29/2015 @ 2:45 pm#77
I think PP had a price list, not a menu.
steveg (fed1c9) — 11/29/2015 @ 2:46 pmI found the first one abhorrent and ghoulish enough… or were you using cannibalism like when you “cannibalize” a machine for parts?
there are no words,
http://therightscoop.com/huckabee-unconditionally-condemns-colorado-shooting-calling-it-domestic-terrorism/
but he isn’t the smartest knife in the drawer,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 3:29 pmwhy isn’t anyone right properly terrorized then
inbred moron
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 3:32 pmotoh,
http://therightscoop.com/this-is-typical-left-wing-demonization-carly-fiorina-calls-out-media-for-connecting-shooting-to-prolife-movement/
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 3:55 pm#7 – DRJ
Ref “mental health issues” — yes the photo I saw of him showed the same “look in his eyes” as Adam Lanza had.
President OBumble could do the nation a REAL service if he’d push to reinstate loony bins. (Ever since — who? and when, where, how? — decided that crazies have a “right” to be out on the street and a “right” to not take their meds and a “right” to annoy passers-by, the rest of us “mostly-normals” have to deal with strange unkempt street-people mumbling to their demons, or panhandling to afford their “non-prescription self-medication of choice”. I find it annoying that SOMEBODY’s holier-than-thou-ism means I have to judge with one quick glance which approaching loony can be brushed off and which approaching loony I have to walk out-of-my-way to avoid.)
Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah (259514) — 11/29/2015 @ 4:05 pmhe wasn’t loony he felt very strongly that planned parenthood in colorado had to be stopped from selling the baby parts
he failed, but he tried really hard a lot harder than I have that’s for sure
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:07 pmNow you are just lying.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:08 pmi wouldn’t say lying i’d say more like i’m exploring a new hypothesis
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:10 pmYou stated he wasn’t loony. That is a lie.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:11 pmthe raving loony party wouldn’t take him, and they picked corbyn,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:12 pmok well let’s stipulate he’s a wacko
how are his actions any different than what someone would do if they thought planned parenthood was trading mutilated baby parts for fancy lamborlingunis?
this is a man what said oh HELL no not on my watch
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:14 pmYou have zero evidence for your hypothesis other than to smear people.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:15 pmi have as much evidence as CMP had for alleging that planned parenthood was engaging in criminal activity
criminal activity that The Authorities were doing NOTHING to stop
and into that void stepped a man
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:17 pmactually we have video evidence of same, and testimony from affected parties, we have third hand gossip to NBC and the Times, who deliberately have excepted edited medium in at least one major case, that we are aware,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:19 pmwe have evidence of a crime and yet nobody is prosecuting this crime?
in what state exactly did this crime occur and who exactly was crimed on Mr. narciso
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:22 pmHe’s the John Brown of unborn people.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:23 pmwe have evidence of a crime and yet nobody is prosecuting this crime?
Umm, that is a common occurrence today if prosecution would hurt team Obama, you should know that by now.
My goodness, even when they don’t bother to defend themselves like the NBP and should be thrown in the slammer, charges are dropped and they walk.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:26 pmyes yes Mr. tiger you got your finger on the pulse of the right side of history there
sometimes you gotta raid that ferry for so at the end of your days you can stand before God with a clear conscience
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:26 pmMr. Dr. when did you become so cynical?
but nevertheless I’ll ask you the same question
in what state exactly did this crime occur and who exactly was crimed on
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:27 pmno, there is no facts supporting this hypothesis, he was perhaps a male, domestic abusing misantrope,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:27 pmHappyfeet is crafting a propaganda narrative to make PP a victim.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:30 pmIf all rational people would agree, it is not cynicism.
MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:31 pmSelling parts of humans is not acceptable.
If you want to argue that notion, go ahead.
I’ll go Godwin and say killing Jews and Jew defenders in Nazi Germany was not a crime either.
Go there, feets.
he was perhaps a male, domestic abusing misantrope
and yet he did more to thwart Planned Parenthood’s evil schemes than anyone you or I could throw a rock and hit Mr. narciso
he loved his country he lived with pride
he did not forget those who died
America can’t you see?
America why won’t you see?
this evil lamborghini pyramid sheme with the harvesting baby parts for money and fancy nicoise salad (pronounced nee-swahz) and merlot
this evil this festering evil
someone had to DO something
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:34 pmevil lamborghini pyramid *scheme* i mean
america can’t you c
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:35 pmyou know you sound just like failamerica foodstamp, in your ignorance,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:37 pmwhoa that was direct
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:42 pmit was meant to be, this piece of filth, killed a copastor and an iraq vet, for his first act, wretched scum is up there with the Aurora and Columbine shooters,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:45 pmFoodstamp could take lessons from you on this topic.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:47 pmyeah but how likely is that Mr. JD
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:56 pmit’s “far-fetched” at best as they say
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:56 pmIt is about as likely as you not spleen-venting and going all Emo narrative on this topic.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 5:58 pmthis topic is one of my bugaboos Mr. JD
cause of me mom and dad they said we believe that women have to have the freedom to decide whether or not to make the babies
and when they said it I could tell they were serious like that time dad made me eat alone in the dining room cause of i said something what accorded with socialist thinkings
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:00 pmthat’s socialism son, he said
take your plate and go eat in the dining room
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:01 pmRob Bell: ‘Evangelical’ has been hijacked to mean anti-gay
oh my goodness that looks like a very interesting article to read thank you whoever linked that for us us
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:07 pmus
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:08 pman evangelical who doesn’t believe in hell, even satan is embarrassed, you have to make the lie plausible, furthermore, paul spoke of all sexual immorality, not just the boutique ones that have arisen as of late, rome and corinth, practiced things that would make your toes curl,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:11 pmi hear you Mr. narciso but I sense that on some level you’re mocking Mr. Pastor Bell
and right smack dab in the middle of red cup season to boot
paul was a weirdo
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:13 pmand also a curmudgeon
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:13 pmhe didn’t really have any friends like what would invite him to fondue parties or what have you
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:14 pmyes, because he’s a twit, the theological version of goose graham,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:14 pmhe has his own show though just like how Mr. The Donald had
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:15 pmNo, seriously. What possible orders can he give his employees in the exective branch, that would amount to gun control? No, he can’t do anything he likes. Executive orders are meaningless to anyone who doesn’t work for the president. He can’t just order people to turn in their guns; they will say no. He could order gun owners arrested, but even if he could find policemen willing to risk the inevitable § 1983 suits for obeying the order, within 48 hours they’d have to appear before a magistrate who would dismiss the charge and impose sanctions against the prosecutor.
The only proposal I’ve actually seen is what I mentioned earlier, defining who is a dealer by how many guns they sell, which might drive some hobbyist dealers out of business but wouldn’t affect most people at all.
Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:16 pmsaul in his learned ways, was a good citizen of Tarsus, and as such persecuted the Christians, who didn’t follow roman law, till he received a rude awakening,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:16 pmgive credit to Obama, he’s been devising such strategems for 20 years, under the influence of Ayers, Steadman, let the cat out in that youtube video about establishing firearms animal, but ‘look squirrel’
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:19 pmi wasn’t a fan of that blue bandana song til i found out it was Jerrod Niemann
he’s a neat kid
Dan + Shay can die in a fire though
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:23 pmit’s 2015 and who the hell decided it was time for a hanson reboot
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:29 pmspeaking of vigilantes though wasn’t it about now in the 2008 cycle that the left first started with its fraught whisperings of assassination porn fantasies about obama?
why are there no such whisperings now about Mr. The Donald?
kooky huh
the bush klan alone must be working several contracts on his ass
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 6:40 pmand now is time for your phonied-up Associated Press quote of the day
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:08 pmthanks “Tracy”
cause that’s how real people talk
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:10 pmwell it is the way, greg packer talks,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:12 pmJarrod is great. The + people, not so much.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:27 pmit just so happens they ran ‘death of a president’ in between showings of kingsman, this morning,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:30 pmi liked the + people way more better the first time when they were called “Hanson”
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:32 pmoh. i already went there
sorry is sleepy time
happyfeet (831175) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:32 pmback down the rabbit hole,
http://www.examiner.com/article/witness-accounts-conflict-with-planned-parenthood-shooting-narrative
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:48 pmOf course they do, narcisco. It was like the NAACP bombing that wasn’t a bomb, was in the other side of the building, and didn’t have anything to do with them.
JD (34f761) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:51 pmI rebuked the jackalope in terms, he’s familiar with,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 7:55 pmCue Gomer Pyle, “Surprise, …”
MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:01 pmhere’s a more systemic breakdown,
http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/11/29/what-really-happened-in-the-colorado-springs-shooting/
narciso (732bc0) — 11/29/2015 @ 8:06 pmWoods and Doherty at BENGHAZI. Obama is too fuxing stooopid to recognize it.
GUS (7cc192) — 11/29/2015 @ 10:41 pmObama is a lying ASSHOLE.
Richards of all people lecturing anybody about rhetoric while being the lying face of murder inc.
We would like to tell those few babes that survive her industrial extermination centers that there are no monsters hiding in the closet. But there she is, fattening up on human foie gras, popping the tadpole into her disgusting maw like they were potato chips, then displaying the brass of a democrat in a congressional hearing, forcing the rest of us to pick up the check on her grisly luncheon.
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and all the hurricanes, blizzards, forest fires, tornadoes and earthquakes that mother nature could throw at us, have nothing on Cecile and how many Americans she’s killed.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/30/2015 @ 1:28 amThey force cigarette companies to put a warming label on every pack, but Planned Parenthood isn’t forced to keep a head count of their victims.
They should have a sign over the marquee: 55 million severed.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:16 amPlanned Parenthood: Killed more native Americans than the Small Pox.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:19 amnk, DRJ, JD – thanks so much for the kind words, the family is tough, led by our Dads.
mg (31009b) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:41 amHow are you holding up there, mg?
I don’t mean to pry, almost afraid to ask.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:50 ampaper tiger – Hearts are broken
mg (31009b) — 11/30/2015 @ 3:46 amstomaches ache
concentration is hard
The family will carry on. We need her body, my God what a barbarian this creep is.
I am so sorry, mg. Can we help in any way?
DRJ (15874d) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:37 amI don’t know you, mg, but I agree with DRJ. If there are things we can do, do ask.
Simon Jester (2708f4) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:59 amThank You, Simon Jester and DRJ. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
mg (31009b) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:14 pmHere is the latest. http://kstp.com/article/stories/s3977614.shtml
If I am out of bounds with my postings, please let me know.
how old is her child Mr. mg?
happyfeet (831175) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:25 pmIt looks like he’s been formally charged with murder. http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2015030459
nk (dbc370) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:53 pmmg,
There’s not much I can do except offer my sympathy, but I would like to donate to her daughter/family if there is a GoFundMe account that you trust. Whatever you think might help.
DRJ (15874d) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:58 pmMr. Feet It says the baby is two years old. From the first link @ # 17.
Strange they would charge a guy with murder without a body, nk. Seems like there’s more to it. Police holding cards up their sleeve.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 11/30/2015 @ 2:59 pmIs this the slime, mg? http://s3.postimg.org/s07wofcun/joshua_dow.png
nk (dbc370) — 11/30/2015 @ 3:08 pmpapertiger, a body is not strictly necessary if a person who was once alive is now dead can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by other means.
nk (dbc370) — 11/30/2015 @ 3:09 pmMy cousin Cinda and her husband Dave are trying to get legal custody of Chloe, who is two.
Drj-thanks so much
https://www.gofundme.com/v8bz9f2k
mg (31009b) — 11/30/2015 @ 3:21 pmyes, nk.
mg (31009b) — 11/30/2015 @ 3:25 pmActually DRJ if someone uses illegal drugs they can not illegally own a firearm. And that’s a federal law. If a state legalizes “medical” or recreational marijauna (but I repeat myself) then they are barred from owning or at least purchasing a firearm.
So we don’t need stronger drug or gun laws. The question for Prom Queen is, with all these states issuing medical marijuana cards why aren’t people holding those cards in the NICS database as prohibited persons? It is after all federal law.
That wouldn’t have helped in the Rocky Mountain High state since you don’t need a medical marijuana card to buy recreational marijuana. But presumably you have to show ID. The libs are big on registering every legal firearm transaction. Wouldn’t they jump at the chance to register every illegal drug transaction? If we had a federal database of illegal drug users available to the NICS system we could cut down on this sort of senseless violence.
In any case this guy was already prohibited from owning a gun if he used pot. So why did the Obama administration let him buy one?
Steve57 (a13395) — 11/30/2015 @ 4:54 pm* Actually DRJ if someone uses illegal drugs they can not
illegallylegally own a firearm.Duh!
Steve57 (a13395) — 11/30/2015 @ 4:55 pmwhere she’s walking a lil kitty cat is more arty but her smile with the goat stealed my heart
happyfeet (831175) — 11/30/2015 @ 5:16 pmJust to interject some facts into this discussion.
If it’s a lie told by “misleadingly edited” videos made by evil righties that PP was selling baby parts for money then…
why did PP president Cecile Richards reverse PP’s policy and have to tell her affiliates to stop selling baby parts for money?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/13/planned-parenthood-to-stop-taking-reimbursements-for-body-part-donations/?intcmp%3Dlatestnews
When you look through the transparent PP lies, if affiliates continue to do this for free, what possible “reasonable expenses” could they have ever had?
The baby part harvesting companies have baby part harvesting technicians on site, and then the baby part harvesting companies transport the “product” back to the home office.
Otherwise PP affiliates have to pay medical waste companies to haul away the truckloads of tiny corpses. Which is expensive. NOT letting the baby part harvesting companies do that job for them is expensive. Letting the baby part harvesting companies have what they want cuts down on the amount of “medical waste” they have to pay to get rid of.
Ghoulishly, by the way, PP workers refer to the medical waste trucks as “the nursery.”
Unfortunately not under our laws, but the civilized thing to do when one suspects a crime has been committed is to have law enforcement investigate. As we have seen, the Democrats will fight tooth and nail to prevent anyone from investigating. Which is why Dr. Gosnell could operate so long. To avoid the appearance of being pro-lifers state investigators never conducted any of the investigations they were required to perform.
Again, to put this into perspective, Dr. Gosnell was convicted of first degree murder in three cases of babies born alive in his abattoir, and of involuntary manslaughter when he overdosed one of the women who went their for an abortion. We’ll never know how many more human beings he killed, both adult and infants, since the authorities were studiously looking the other way for perhaps decades.
But we do know just from the results of the trial that Dr. Gosnell was responsible for killing more people at an abortion clinic than this Colorado loon. But you’ll not hear a peep from the press.
Because Barack Obama, Democratic party, the LHMFM (but I repeat myself), and PP (there I go again repeating myself) know Dr. Gosnell wasn’t an outlier. Abortionists kill babies born alive all the time. That’s why Prom Queen wouldn’t vote for the Illinois Born Alive Act, that’s why the Democrats (and some “pro-choice” Republicans) won’t conduct even the inspections mandated by law. That’s why PP constantly resists laws mandating that abortion clinics maintain the same standards as walk-in health clinics, laws that abortionists have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital in case of a botched abortion (either they injure the woman or the baby is born alive), and most especially PP fights like a cornered rat against laws that require them to treat a baby born alive like the human being that it is, and that if a baby is born alive they have to care for it. It’s not a baby if the mother doesn’t want it, whether the baby is inside or outside the womb. It doesn’t matter if the law says it’s illegal to kill the baby after it’s born, Gosnell-like they don’t care what the law says they’re going to kill it.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/video-planned-parenthood-official-argues-right-post-birth-abortion/712198
Speaking of loons, only a loon would say that the states haven’t turned up any evidence of any crimes. For two reasons. In Texas, at least, and I’m sure in some other states the investigations are ongoing. Since the investigations haven’t wrapped up it’s stupid to say they haven’t found evidence.
Second, PP may have committed federal crimes. Two of the alleged crimes are that PP didn’t inform the women they were going to
selldonate (ahem) the baby parts, and that PP altered their procedures to preserve the baby parts forhighest sale valuedonation. PP would have had a strong financial incentive to violate federal law and alter their procedures to preserve as much as the baby as possible for later sale. There was almost nothing apparently they baby harvesting companies couldn’t use if it was in good condition. The more PP could sell, the less they had to spend on disposal. So that is pure profit.Failing to inform the woman and altering abortion procedures may not be against the law in a particular state, but they are definitely federal crimes.
Figure the odds of Tiger Beat having his DoJ prosecute no matter how irrefutable the evidence, considering he believes in post-birth abortion just as much as PP and Dr. Gosnell.
Steve57 (a13395) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:01 pmI’m sure Tiger Beat will get right on this,
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/482946-chicago-student-arrested/?utm_content=buffer8dd20&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
narciso (732bc0) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:14 pmU of C over-reacted. The threat was not credible. You cannot buy an M-4 and two Desert Eagles with foodstamps.
nk (dbc370) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:29 pmHey
MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:34 pmA friend of mine is stuck in moderation.
so sorry to hear that, mg,
narciso (732bc0) — 11/30/2015 @ 7:37 pm