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11/28/2015

A Police Officer And Man Of God Killed; A President Pushes For Stricter Gun Control

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:58 am

[guest post by Dana]

Two updates regarding the shootout yesterday at a Planned Parenthood facility.

First, about the police officer killed during the shootout:

Garrett Swasey, 44, the University of Colorado Colorado Springs police officer who was shot and killed while responding to a shooting at a Planned Parenthood office, was described by his fellow church members and friends as a courageous man and loving father who drew strength and inspiration from his Christian faith.

He was married, with two young children, and had been on the campus police force for six years. He also spent seven years as a co-pastor at Hope Chapel in Colorado Springs.

Swasey’s co-pastor, Scott Dontanville, stated that although Swasey was against abortion, it would not have played a part in his decision to answer the call to help those whose lives were in danger:

“I don’t think that was on his mind,” he said. “He was there to save lives. That’s the kind of guy he is.”

Another fellow pastor of Swasey’s, Kurt Aichele remarked:

Swasey frequently responded to dangerous calls off campus. One of his bedrock beliefs was putting other people’s lives before his own.

“It’s not the first time that he’s been placed in harm’s way,” he said. “He’s an absolute man of courage.”

Secondly, President Obama made a statement about the shootout. As we have come to expect from him in the aftermath of these tragedies, he took advantage of the opportunity to push for more gun control. This less than 24 hours after the Officer Swasey’s death:

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–Dana

166 Responses to “A Police Officer And Man Of God Killed; A President Pushes For Stricter Gun Control”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. pimp that dead cop obama pimp his still-warm corpse

    that’s a good boy

    I knew you’d know what to do

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. On a side note, it is being reported that no Planned Parenthood employee or patient was injured in the shootout, and that officials have not found any evidence that would show that PP was the target. Further, this on the shooter:

    Colleton County Sheriff’s Office Lieutenant Shane Roberts on Saturday told BuzzFeed News that the suspect of the shooting at Planned Parenthood, Robert L. Dear, lived in Walterboro, South Carolina, from 1997 at least to 2007.

    Dear’s South Carolina license expired in 2014 and he also has an address in North Carolina, Roberts said.

    Public records reviewed by BuzzFeed News indicate a Robert Lewis Dear Jr. has faced as many as nine criminal charges in North and South Carolina, including two misdemeanors for cruelty to animals (for which he was found not guilty during a bench trial) and for being a peeping tom (which was dismissed at a preliminary hearing).

    There are also voting records of a Robert Lewis Dear Jr. living in Hartsel, Colorado, as recently as 2014. The town lies in the middle of the state and is just over one hour’s drive from Colorado Springs.

    Dana (86e864)

  4. This is not normal.

    You’re not normal, Barry.

    Mark (f713e4)

  5. where is the President’s statement about the New Orleans shooting that took place last weekend?

    PeterK (ded1e4)

  6. Oblather has already made it known that the remainder of his term will be about executive ordering gun control – what do we expect?

    in_awe (faf180)

  7. More links here. He looks and sounds like he may have mental health issues.

    DRJ (15874d)

  8. He looks and sounds like he may have mental health issues.

    The guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

    What a shame, really.

    Mark (f713e4)

  9. Liberal double standards are annoying, especially in a President. An attack on a PP facility is evil and bad (which is true), but Obama has also called the #BLM movement (that blames and attacks the police) a legitimate issue. Apparently some violence and hate is good.

    DRJ (15874d)

  10. B. Hussein Obama’s statement refers to an assault weapon. I have seen no reporting that would indicate that the shooter had a weapon that was capable of automatic fire. He also refers to “weapons of war” that are used on the streets of America. Try as I might, I haven’t found any news stories that would indicate that crew-served machine guns, mortars, hand grenades, or 155mm howitzers have been used on America’s streets by civilians recently.

    CeeBeeBee (b2dd2d)

  11. Excuse me Mr President, but the man was a police officer. Cop is considered derogatory by many and shouldn’t be used in a formal statement by any government official.

    Have some respect (713654)

  12. A few shootings have been terrorists, like in France, but most of the American shootings appear to be people with mental health issues. That isn’t as easy for Obama to demagogue, especially since loosening the options for the mentally ill was a policy engineered by the Democrats — largely via the ACLU’s efforts to deinstitutionalize the mentally ill. But they don’t really want to help people. They want to control people.

    DRJ (15874d)

  13. I’d be appalled if a conservative president came out and dealt with the killings yesterday by saying something about the sanctity of life and how it begins at conception or should never be ended by the third trimester.

    BTW, it might seem flippant to question the mental health of the guy currently in the Oval Office or to become very irritated that he’s blatantly politicized the deaths in Colorado. But the following is a reminder that, in general, he’s emotionally and attitudinally a nut.

    nbcconnecticut.com, November 2009: After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.

    But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a “shout-out” to “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.” Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms.

    Obama is NOT a good man.

    Mark (f713e4)

  14. This is another psychotic shooter and one report is that he is registered to vote, Not as Republican but as a woman !

    Time to do something about psychosis.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  15. “Dr. Joe Medicine Crow — that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.”

    If that is an Obama quote someone should inform the idiot the medal is The Medal of Honor and is awarded by the President in the name of Congress, itself having nothing to do with it. Only a self-absorbed leftist C in C could fail to know the proper term for an award only he can present. Every day this man gets worse and worse. And Mark, not only is he not a good man he is not a good person, a good Christian, a good American or a good President.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  16. BTW, they stated he had a voting record. Is it a secret?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  17. My cousins daughter, it has been the worst.
    We grew up 4 blocks away- kids of twin fathers.
    I have no piss and vinegar left.
    http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/27/family-of-missing-woman-asks-public-for-help/76478768/

    mg (31009b)

  18. A very lovely young lady, mg. My prayers are with you and the family.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  19. oh god that’s awful

    happyfeet (831175)

  20. Obama is NOT a good man.

    Mark (f713e4) — 11/28/2015 @ 9:57 am

    He never was. He had been poisoned from the start as a red diaper baby.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  21. And the media continues to spread the lies…

    “Critics, many of whom seek to outlaw abortion in the United States, have falsely accused Planned Parenthood of selling fetal organs and body parts for profit, and encouraging women to have abortions in order to expand such operations.”

    – Daniel Woolls, Yahoo News

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  22. I’m so sorry mg. God help her.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. thoughts and prayers with you and the family, mg.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. thoughts and prayers, mg

    narciso (732bc0)

  25. Mr. Pro-choice in Chief is reliably selective in his perspective.

    n.n (0b901a)

  26. No comments from republican candidates I wonder why ????

    whitley (ac11e1)

  27. if they comment they should comment that valerie’s little boy obama is a sleazy dead cop pimping whore Mr. whitley

    otherwise why bother you know

    happyfeet (831175)

  28. Fifty years ago the liberals pushed to empty the state mental hospitals. This is the consequence. Now , as always, the solution to one government screw up caused by some liberal policy is more government intervention. How many of the mass murders we’very seen in the last 50 years would have been prevented if the state mental hospitals had not been drained?

    jim (a9b7c7)

  29. oh my goodness failmerica’s fascist whore government can NOT be trusted with mental hospitals

    they’ll put a Lois Lerner in charge and then guess what happens?

    bad stuff Mr. jim

    really dark and bad stuff

    happyfeet (831175)

  30. Whitley – your bibble babble is special.

    JD (0e5c29)

  31. no creativity, don’t use the same sentences as Think Regress,

    narciso (732bc0)

  32. Whitley,

    Perhaps because they have some genuine humanity and concern for others,
    and reserve judgement until facts are known?

    It is really telling how useless most of the comments from liberals on this site are. We know how little censoring is done here, Obama’s own press people could be “jammin” here all day long and no one would stop them, only call them on it…
    and yet the most they can do is give irritating yaps and nips at the heel.
    And in their epistemologically closed circles they think they know it all.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  33. May the hero police officer and the other victims rest in peace.

    My take on the event; until we know the how and the why, there’s not a lot to say.

    Obama sinks to yet another low by using the dead to score political points. That’s beyond disgusting. He doesn’t even know how the shooter got the guns. Obviously, this and his past uses of the innocent dead in such attacks show he’d much rather score cheap political points before the bodies are cold than to wait for facts.

    Arizona CJ (331a26)

  34. No comments from republican candidates I wonder why ????

    whitley (ac11e1) — 11/28/2015 @ 12:28 pm

    I have an even better question: what would you like to hear from them?

    Bill H (2a858c)

  35. Whitley,

    Ted Cruz posted a statement on his Facebook page:

    My and Heidi’s prayers are with the loved ones of those killed in Colorado Springs, with those injured, and with the first responders who bravely got the situation under control.


    Simple, non-political, and focused on the right things.

    Dana (86e864)

  36. Further, Whitley, you can check each GOP candidate’s FB page and I’m sure you will find a statement of sympathy posted. Will they be political in nature? Likely not. That is for the classless political hustlers and whores who prefer another side of the aisle. But sure you are quite familiar with them.

    Dana (86e864)

  37. NBC Nightly News reported that, of the Republican candidates, John Kasich and Ted Cruz
    had so far issued statements. (both saying something about prayer)

    Sammy Finkelman (4d9cfa)

  38. 800+ murdered in the streets of chicago and not one peep out of president urkel.
    i wonder why ?

    el polacko (8c440a)

  39. Also, Whitley, what is more unseemly: Democrats like the president and Hillary and Bernie exploiting a heinous tragedy to push their political agenda, or other candidates not drawing attention to themselves just to be heard??

    Dana (86e864)

  40. Wait a minute!

    How about a little consistency, Obama.

    Recently he blamed terrorism — as in the non-Islamic ISIS Islamic Terrorists’propensity for terror on Global Warming.

    Fix Global Warming, and you fix gun deaths… got it???

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  41. The gunman suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others told the officers who arrested him “no more baby parts,” after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.

    wow

    score one for the Center for Medical Progress

    or is it 3?

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. 37.800+ murdered in the streets of chicago and not one peep out of president urkel.
    i wonder why ?

    Nor a peep out of Whitley either. I guess black lives don’t matter when their blood is shed on the altar of leftism in Chicago.

    Hey Whitley, how about you make a statement about all the blacks dying in that ninth circle of leftist hell, Chicago, run by and for leftists for 70 years?

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  43. I guess black lives don’t matter when their blood is shed on the altar of leftism in Chicago.

    this is not a conclusion what involves guesswork

    16 shots 13 months

    chicago pd baby oh yeah

    happyfeet (831175)

  44. He’ll be an ex-President soon. Then we can pass a law exempting ex-Presidents who favor gun control from having to be surrounded by men with guns.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  45. Oblather has already made it known that the remainder of his term will be about executive ordering gun control

    He may want to, but I don’t see what executive orders he could possibly make that would result in anything like gun control.

    At worst he might get a few hobbyists classified as dealers, and some of them will give it up rather than bother with the paperwork, while others will just take it as a sign to go into it full time. But every time that proposal comes up the ATF says they don’t want it, because they like the “flexibility” of having no official definition of who’s a dealer, so they can make it up as they go along. Imposing a fixed definition on them would probably be a good thing for the 2nd amendment. Go 0bama!

    What else might he be able to do? Anyone?

    Milhouse (8489b1)

  46. Twenty years ago Garrett Swasey was a national level or almost national level, figure skater, and he and Nancy Kerrigan were childhood friends and even skated together.

    Sammy Finkelman (4d9cfa)

  47. we can pass a law exempting ex-Presidents who favor gun control from having to be surrounded by men with guns.

    Why only ex-presidents? Why not allow anyone who is hoplophobic to decline this service, or to request that their bodyguards be armed only with weapons that are approved by the Brady bunch?

    Milhouse (8489b1)

  48. An Open letter to gun grabber Obama, Hillary and the Supreme court

    To begin on a positive note, let’s start with thanking you for making the colossal mistake of admitting the obvious to us all:
    That you do indeed want to CONFISCATE our guns with your endorsement of gun control Australian style
    In most cases, gun grabbers wait until they passed the step of promising not to do so and conning people into registration (always a necessity in taking the people’s means of self defense) before talking CONFISCATION, but you and your fellow travelers “jumped the Gun” and started to believe your own hegemony.

    This is all fine and dandy with many of us – we find your new found honesty about your Socialism and a love for gun Confiscation to be quite refreshing as of late, but I digress….

    Perhaps you and your comrades have underestimated the people, that we weren’t paying attention and didn’t notice this egregious blunder on your part.. sorry to break the news to you, but we did.

    And with Al Gore’s creation of the internet, we can spread news of this far and wide. So the cat’s out of the bag and you ought to acknowledge the truth for all time.

    None the less, I do have some more pressing matters to discuss with you on guns and your obsession with stealing them from us.

    Let me make a few things perfectly clear to you .
    1. You can forget for your statist fantasies about controlling our Private property through Intergalactic Background Checks.
    (Intergalactic is decidedly more ‘comprehensive’ than universal, don’t you agree? I though you would)

    You people barely have the authority to control this over state lines with the atrocious Wickard V. Filburn decision, but you surely DON’T have the authority to control my private property and my selling something to a neighbor down the block.

    But go ahead and get another ruling that once again rips apart the founding documents and the rule of law. As a nation we’re getting mighty close to not given a flying fornication what 9 citizens on the supreme court have to say on this or any subject. So keep pushing the boundary boys and girls, one of these days we’re going to ignore your rulings like you ignore the rule of law.

    2. We aren’t Registering anything with you people.

    Never mind that history has shown the sequence to be registration, Confiscation, annihilation..

    Never mind that you have already admitted that is just an incremental but necessary step to confiscation.

    And never mind that you think you’ve fooled people into believing your Bull cookies about “Gun Safety”

    No, the Good lord has granted us the natural right of self defense and you aren’t taking that away under ANY circumstances…

    If you doubt our resolve on this point, may I to refer you to the socialist red state of New York and other environs who have steadfastly refused your Stalinist dictates.

    No, we don’t need your Permission to defend ourselves – We already have that, thank you very much.

    Did you miss the memo from well nigh over 200 years ago from the people about the consent of the governed? [And I’m talking the citizens of the US, not the golden horde of imposters you’ve been willfully bringing in over the border to tip the balance and destroy the nation]

    So you can stuff your tyrannical dreams of registration where the sun don’t shine, It’s not happening.

    3. And we for dang sure aren’t going to let you confiscate our means of defense from a tyrannical government. But that should be obvious to you by now.

    So go ahead and knock yourself out passing all manner of new laws and regulations, or new supreme court decisions that trample on the very documents you swore to protect.

    You people have very capably demonstrated the art of ignoring the rule of law, and if you can do it – SO CAN WE THE PEOPLE!

    Anonymous

    Anonymous (c40eac)

  49. yes yes if only failmerica had had more guns president food stamp would never have happened where the sun don’t shine

    happyfeet (831175)

  50. Murder is at an all-time low.

    Michael Ejercito (d74b61)

  51. oh great now we’re sweden

    that’s just effing great

    happyfeet (831175)

  52. Seven years ago, I came up with the perfect solution.

    . If you are going after a rabid junkyard dog, you do not go in there with ASPCA rules; you take the leash off your own bigger, meaner dog.

    Michael Ejercito (d74b61)

  53. It has been reported that the suspect was an oddball who regularly smoked marijuana. That raises some questions. Did he move to Colorado so he could use pot legally? Was he high when he committed these crimes? (His mug shot suggests he might have been.) Was this crime in part a consequence of Colorado’s experiment with more permissive drug laws?

    Maybe Obama should be pushing for stronger drug laws, not gun laws.

    DRJ (15874d)

  54. Rev, happyfeet, papertiger, Col. and narciso, my family thanks you all for the thoughts and prayers.

    mg (31009b)

  55. From me, too, mg. I’ve been running around and I just saw your comment.

    nk (dbc370)

  56. Jesus, it’s cold out there. I hope you find her hail and hearty with an interesting story to tell.

    Good luck mg.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. mg,

    I pray for a good result and that you can stay strong for your family during this terrible time. I know you can help them because you are courageous and caring.

    DRJ (15874d)

  58. I wonder if the suspect had any of these symptoms of chronic marijuana use or consumption of higher potency marijuana:

    Panic attacks
    Strongly fluctuating emotional states
    Paranoia
    Fragmented thoughts
    An illusion of insight but with a real-world dulling of attention
    Psychotic episodes
    Increased heart rate — up to 160 beats a minute
    Fainting
    Depersonalization (the state in which one loses the sense of his own identity and his thoughts when one’s feelings seem like they belong to someone else)

    Studies show that Colorado pot is much more potent than illegal pot.

    DRJ (15874d)

  59. Mg – please accept my thoughts and prayers in such a trying time.

    JD (3b5483)

  60. i don’t smoke but sometimes i need a long drag

    happyfeet (831175)

  61. are they intoxicating blasts of stupefaction? or stupefying blasts of intoxication? In the end, I guess it’s all teh same.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  62. I find it interesting how the press is pushing the anonymous sources who claim he said something about “no more baby parts” as if that would condemn the entire pro-life movement,
    and pictures of his “cabin” (shack in my book) that highlight the “cross made of twigs/sticks” on the wall, as if the presence of a cross explains all.
    Haven’t seen a picture of the policeman hero’s home or church where he was one of the part-time pastors. I bet there may be a cross, or a Scripture verse on a painting, somewhere there.

    Obama says take a gun to a knife fight, no big deal;
    ad talks about “targeting” certain political races, and it is claimed it instigated an assassination attempt.

    Yes, prayers for mg and his family,
    and others with life situations some version of unpleasant, such as holidays apart from children due to divorce, first holiday without a family member, illness, and other hardships and heartaches
    I don’t know which is sadder and more disgusting, the people who make such points,
    or the people who believe them.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  63. I don’t know which is sadder and more disgusting, the people who make such points,
    or the people who believe them
    .

    Sorry, that was not in the proper place, should have been higher up in the post.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  64. the cmp propaganda was designed to elicit an unthinking emotional response Mr. Dr.

    getting all up inside this wack job in colorado’s head is just an indication they did a good job

    it’s not a whole lot different than how this wacko twisted off recently

    in a large enough population you’re bound to have a handful of weirdos who react weirdly and do weird stuff

    just cause the snowflake fascists at failmerica’s dismal universities are pansies doesn’t mean people don’t get for reals triggered on the odd occasion

    you always have your outliers

    it’s like the super duper teensy handful of incidences of yobbery and mayhem we get on black friday every year

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. Democrats like the president and Hillary and Bernie exploiting a heinous tragedy to push their political agenda, or other candidates not drawing attention to themselves just to be heard??

    That calls to mind the memorial service held for the Democrat senator from Minnesota, Paul Wellstone, who died in a plane crash back in 2002. The service took place in a large arena and it turned into a political rally. I know at least one of the Republican dignitaries who was there (among those not told by the liberal organizers to stay away—and some of those who did attend were roundly booed by the crowd) was so turned off by the spectacle that he wanted to walk out.

    Keep in mind Obama’s inappropriate reaction the day after Nidal Hasan murdered many people at Fort Hood.

    Etc, etc.

    Liberalism rots both a person’s common sense and his true decency and compassion too. Isn’t that ironic? Well, maybe it’s not.

    Mark (f713e4)

  66. We know Obama wants to politicize gun crimes because he’s admitted that’s what he’s doing. He should at least acknowledge that gun owners stop criminals, too.

    DRJ (15874d)

  67. Nevertheless, I condemn this suspect ino matter why he did this, including if he attacked the PP facility and the people there because of abortion. That is not pro-life. It’s the opposite of pro-life.

    DRJ (15874d)

  68. No, feets, the CMP work was informative and evoking an emotional response to motivate.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  69. no the propaganda was very very misleading

    one way you can tell is cause of how the cmp kept screeching that all these laws were broken

    and then red state lifeydoodle governors started all these investigations

    and came up with nothing

    but if you watched the propaganda, as I did, you would’ve very much come away with the impression that there was criminal activity taking place

    you’d also get the impression I think that fetal tissue procurement for research was super widespread

    can you even tell me how many planned parenthood clinics collected fetal tissue for research i bet you can’t

    cause the point of the videos was not to inform it was to agitate and send people off half-cocked all willy nilly

    happyfeet (831175)

  70. Thanks for spitting out the sophist talking points from planned parenthood and their enablers, Happyfeet. You are a loyal foot soldier.

    JD (3b5483)

  71. it’s no good pretending manipulative propagander videos are an encyclopedia article, as some do

    propaganda is propaganda Mr. JD

    failmericans lurv to slurp up the propagandas

    drudge has a whole round-up of the climate change propaganda what failmericans are getting fed bucketfuls of this week

    it’s just part of the failmerican culture

    being in denial about this is no bueno, and so me i try to make a point of noticing when the information i’m being presented with is appealing more to my emotions than my logics

    happyfeet (831175)

  72. Propaganda is what you call it when it argues against what you want to think.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84)

  73. What else might he be able to do? Anyone?
    Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:08 pm

    Truly this dense you are? Do anything he damn well pleases he can as long as RINOs like McConnell in charge they are! No checks and balance as he sees fit, he does!

    Yoda (feee21)

  74. Propaganda is what you call it when it argues against what you want to think.

    that’s too reductive Mr. Dr. let’s define some terms

    Propaganda is information that is not impartial and used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or using loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information presented.

    and you can tell the CMP is doing the propaganda on people cause of it’s very simple

    watch the propaganda videos again and then ask yourself this: if the fetal tissue isn’t used for research what happens to it?

    happyfeet (831175)

  75. Good little footsoldier

    JD (3b5483)

  76. am not

    happyfeet (831175)

  77. Premeditated murder is what it is. Elective abortion is premeditated murder.

    Planned cannibalism is also simply that. Murdering, harvesting, and consuming human organs, tissue, and clumps of cells is planned cannibalism.

    The motives of either can be judged independently of the actual action.

    As for propaganda, principles matter. The intrinsic or exceptional value of human life should not be considered lightly. The slippery slope from premeditated murder to planned cannibalism is a path taken. Planned Parenthood is just one institution in a cult that leads the establishment of a pro-choice quasi-religious doctrine.

    n.n (0b901a)

  78. n.n., there is nothing “quasi” about anything preached by the left. It’s a religion just as sure as Islam is, and just as destructive.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie™ (f4eb27)

  79. Justice Thomas was in the headlines seeking to restore separation of powers, returning those that belong to congress from where they have been deferred to the executive. (just read a blurb-can’t find it now)

    The SCOTUS Justice I have the most respect for is the black guy.

    Strange. People tell me I’m a racist.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  80. Mr. Instapundit linked this George Will column today Mr. tiger

    happyfeet (831175)

  81. Thank you, Mr. Feet

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  82. #77

    I think PP had a price list, not a menu.
    I found the first one abhorrent and ghoulish enough… or were you using cannibalism like when you “cannibalize” a machine for parts?

    steveg (fed1c9)

  83. there are no words,

    http://therightscoop.com/huckabee-unconditionally-condemns-colorado-shooting-calling-it-domestic-terrorism/

    but he isn’t the smartest knife in the drawer,

    narciso (732bc0)

  84. why isn’t anyone right properly terrorized then

    inbred moron

    happyfeet (831175)

  85. #7 – DRJ

    Ref “mental health issues” — yes the photo I saw of him showed the same “look in his eyes” as Adam Lanza had.

    President OBumble could do the nation a REAL service if he’d push to reinstate loony bins. (Ever since — who? and when, where, how? — decided that crazies have a “right” to be out on the street and a “right” to not take their meds and a “right” to annoy passers-by, the rest of us “mostly-normals” have to deal with strange unkempt street-people mumbling to their demons, or panhandling to afford their “non-prescription self-medication of choice”. I find it annoying that SOMEBODY’s holier-than-thou-ism means I have to judge with one quick glance which approaching loony can be brushed off and which approaching loony I have to walk out-of-my-way to avoid.)

    Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah (259514)

  86. he wasn’t loony he felt very strongly that planned parenthood in colorado had to be stopped from selling the baby parts

    he failed, but he tried really hard a lot harder than I have that’s for sure

    happyfeet (831175)

  87. Now you are just lying.

    JD (34f761)

  88. i wouldn’t say lying i’d say more like i’m exploring a new hypothesis

    happyfeet (831175)

  89. You stated he wasn’t loony. That is a lie.

    JD (34f761)

  90. the raving loony party wouldn’t take him, and they picked corbyn,

    narciso (732bc0)

  91. ok well let’s stipulate he’s a wacko

    how are his actions any different than what someone would do if they thought planned parenthood was trading mutilated baby parts for fancy lamborlingunis?

    this is a man what said oh HELL no not on my watch

    happyfeet (831175)

  92. You have zero evidence for your hypothesis other than to smear people.

    JD (34f761)

  93. i have as much evidence as CMP had for alleging that planned parenthood was engaging in criminal activity

    criminal activity that The Authorities were doing NOTHING to stop

    and into that void stepped a man

    happyfeet (831175)

  94. actually we have video evidence of same, and testimony from affected parties, we have third hand gossip to NBC and the Times, who deliberately have excepted edited medium in at least one major case, that we are aware,

    narciso (732bc0)

  95. we have evidence of a crime and yet nobody is prosecuting this crime?

    in what state exactly did this crime occur and who exactly was crimed on Mr. narciso

    happyfeet (831175)

  96. He’s the John Brown of unborn people.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  97. we have evidence of a crime and yet nobody is prosecuting this crime?

    Umm, that is a common occurrence today if prosecution would hurt team Obama, you should know that by now.

    My goodness, even when they don’t bother to defend themselves like the NBP and should be thrown in the slammer, charges are dropped and they walk.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  98. yes yes Mr. tiger you got your finger on the pulse of the right side of history there

    sometimes you gotta raid that ferry for so at the end of your days you can stand before God with a clear conscience

    happyfeet (831175)

  99. Mr. Dr. when did you become so cynical?

    but nevertheless I’ll ask you the same question

    in what state exactly did this crime occur and who exactly was crimed on

    happyfeet (831175)

  100. no, there is no facts supporting this hypothesis, he was perhaps a male, domestic abusing misantrope,

    narciso (732bc0)

  101. Happyfeet is crafting a propaganda narrative to make PP a victim.

    JD (34f761)

  102. If all rational people would agree, it is not cynicism.
    Selling parts of humans is not acceptable.
    If you want to argue that notion, go ahead.
    I’ll go Godwin and say killing Jews and Jew defenders in Nazi Germany was not a crime either.
    Go there, feets.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly at the moment) (deca84)

  103. he was perhaps a male, domestic abusing misantrope

    and yet he did more to thwart Planned Parenthood’s evil schemes than anyone you or I could throw a rock and hit Mr. narciso

    he loved his country he lived with pride

    he did not forget those who died

    America can’t you see?

    America why won’t you see?

    this evil lamborghini pyramid sheme with the harvesting baby parts for money and fancy nicoise salad (pronounced nee-swahz) and merlot

    this evil this festering evil

    someone had to DO something

    happyfeet (831175)

  104. evil lamborghini pyramid *scheme* i mean

    america can’t you c

    happyfeet (831175)

  105. you know you sound just like failamerica foodstamp, in your ignorance,

    narciso (732bc0)

  106. whoa that was direct

    happyfeet (831175)

  107. it was meant to be, this piece of filth, killed a copastor and an iraq vet, for his first act, wretched scum is up there with the Aurora and Columbine shooters,

    narciso (732bc0)

  108. Foodstamp could take lessons from you on this topic.

    JD (34f761)

  109. yeah but how likely is that Mr. JD

    happyfeet (831175)

  110. it’s “far-fetched” at best as they say

    happyfeet (831175)

  111. It is about as likely as you not spleen-venting and going all Emo narrative on this topic.

    JD (34f761)

  112. this topic is one of my bugaboos Mr. JD

    cause of me mom and dad they said we believe that women have to have the freedom to decide whether or not to make the babies

    and when they said it I could tell they were serious like that time dad made me eat alone in the dining room cause of i said something what accorded with socialist thinkings

    happyfeet (831175)

  113. that’s socialism son, he said

    take your plate and go eat in the dining room

    happyfeet (831175)

  114. Rob Bell: ‘Evangelical’ has been hijacked to mean anti-gay

    oh my goodness that looks like a very interesting article to read thank you whoever linked that for us us

    happyfeet (831175)

  115. us

    happyfeet (831175)

  116. an evangelical who doesn’t believe in hell, even satan is embarrassed, you have to make the lie plausible, furthermore, paul spoke of all sexual immorality, not just the boutique ones that have arisen as of late, rome and corinth, practiced things that would make your toes curl,

    narciso (732bc0)

  117. i hear you Mr. narciso but I sense that on some level you’re mocking Mr. Pastor Bell

    and right smack dab in the middle of red cup season to boot

    paul was a weirdo

    happyfeet (831175)

  118. and also a curmudgeon

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. he didn’t really have any friends like what would invite him to fondue parties or what have you

    happyfeet (831175)

  120. yes, because he’s a twit, the theological version of goose graham,

    narciso (732bc0)

  121. he has his own show though just like how Mr. The Donald had

    happyfeet (831175)

  122. What else might he be able to do? Anyone?
    Milhouse (8489b1) — 11/28/2015 @ 8:08 pm

    Truly this dense you are? Do anything he damn well pleases he can as long as RINOs like McConnell in charge they are! No checks and balance as he sees fit, he does!

    No, seriously. What possible orders can he give his employees in the exective branch, that would amount to gun control? No, he can’t do anything he likes. Executive orders are meaningless to anyone who doesn’t work for the president. He can’t just order people to turn in their guns; they will say no. He could order gun owners arrested, but even if he could find policemen willing to risk the inevitable § 1983 suits for obeying the order, within 48 hours they’d have to appear before a magistrate who would dismiss the charge and impose sanctions against the prosecutor.

    The only proposal I’ve actually seen is what I mentioned earlier, defining who is a dealer by how many guns they sell, which might drive some hobbyist dealers out of business but wouldn’t affect most people at all.

    Milhouse (8489b1)

  123. saul in his learned ways, was a good citizen of Tarsus, and as such persecuted the Christians, who didn’t follow roman law, till he received a rude awakening,

    narciso (732bc0)

  124. give credit to Obama, he’s been devising such strategems for 20 years, under the influence of Ayers, Steadman, let the cat out in that youtube video about establishing firearms animal, but ‘look squirrel’

    narciso (732bc0)

  125. i wasn’t a fan of that blue bandana song til i found out it was Jerrod Niemann

    he’s a neat kid

    Dan + Shay can die in a fire though

    happyfeet (831175)

  126. it’s 2015 and who the hell decided it was time for a hanson reboot

    happyfeet (831175)

  127. speaking of vigilantes though wasn’t it about now in the 2008 cycle that the left first started with its fraught whisperings of assassination porn fantasies about obama?

    why are there no such whisperings now about Mr. The Donald?

    kooky huh

    the bush klan alone must be working several contracts on his ass

    happyfeet (831175)

  128. and now is time for your phonied-up Associated Press quote of the day

    “Black Friday weekend doesn’t matter to me anymore,” Tracy said. “There’s always some kind of deal in-store or online.”

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. thanks “Tracy”

    cause that’s how real people talk

    happyfeet (831175)

  130. well it is the way, greg packer talks,

    narciso (732bc0)

  131. Jarrod is great. The + people, not so much.

    JD (34f761)

  132. it just so happens they ran ‘death of a president’ in between showings of kingsman, this morning,

    narciso (732bc0)

  133. i liked the + people way more better the first time when they were called “Hanson”

    happyfeet (831175)

  134. oh. i already went there

    sorry is sleepy time

    happyfeet (831175)

  135. Of course they do, narcisco. It was like the NAACP bombing that wasn’t a bomb, was in the other side of the building, and didn’t have anything to do with them.

    JD (34f761)

  136. I rebuked the jackalope in terms, he’s familiar with,

    narciso (732bc0)

  137. Cue Gomer Pyle, “Surprise, …”

    MD in Philly (not in Philly, and out and about) (deca84)

  138. Woods and Doherty at BENGHAZI. Obama is too fuxing stooopid to recognize it.
    Obama is a lying ASSHOLE.

    GUS (7cc192)

  139. Richards of all people lecturing anybody about rhetoric while being the lying face of murder inc.

    We would like to tell those few babes that survive her industrial extermination centers that there are no monsters hiding in the closet. But there she is, fattening up on human foie gras, popping the tadpole into her disgusting maw like they were potato chips, then displaying the brass of a democrat in a congressional hearing, forcing the rest of us to pick up the check on her grisly luncheon.

    Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and all the hurricanes, blizzards, forest fires, tornadoes and earthquakes that mother nature could throw at us, have nothing on Cecile and how many Americans she’s killed.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  140. They force cigarette companies to put a warming label on every pack, but Planned Parenthood isn’t forced to keep a head count of their victims.

    They should have a sign over the marquee: 55 million severed.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  141. Planned Parenthood: Killed more native Americans than the Small Pox.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  142. nk, DRJ, JD – thanks so much for the kind words, the family is tough, led by our Dads.

    mg (31009b)

  143. How are you holding up there, mg?

    I don’t mean to pry, almost afraid to ask.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  144. paper tiger – Hearts are broken
    stomaches ache
    concentration is hard
    The family will carry on. We need her body, my God what a barbarian this creep is.

    mg (31009b)

  145. I am so sorry, mg. Can we help in any way?

    DRJ (15874d)

  146. I don’t know you, mg, but I agree with DRJ. If there are things we can do, do ask.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  147. Thank You, Simon Jester and DRJ. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
    Here is the latest. http://kstp.com/article/stories/s3977614.shtml
    If I am out of bounds with my postings, please let me know.

    mg (31009b)

  148. how old is her child Mr. mg?

    happyfeet (831175)

  149. It looks like he’s been formally charged with murder. http://www4.co.hennepin.mn.us/webbooking/chargedetail.asp?v_booknum=2015030459

    nk (dbc370)

  150. mg,

    There’s not much I can do except offer my sympathy, but I would like to donate to her daughter/family if there is a GoFundMe account that you trust. Whatever you think might help.

    DRJ (15874d)

  151. Mr. Feet It says the baby is two years old. From the first link @ # 17.

    Strange they would charge a guy with murder without a body, nk. Seems like there’s more to it. Police holding cards up their sleeve.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  152. papertiger, a body is not strictly necessary if a person who was once alive is now dead can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by other means.

    nk (dbc370)

  153. My cousin Cinda and her husband Dave are trying to get legal custody of Chloe, who is two.
    Drj-thanks so much

    https://www.gofundme.com/v8bz9f2k

    mg (31009b)

  154. yes, nk.

    mg (31009b)

  155. 53. It has been reported that the suspect was an oddball who regularly smoked marijuana. That raises some questions. Did he move to Colorado so he could use pot legally? Was he high when he committed these crimes? (His mug shot suggests he might have been.) Was this crime in part a consequence of Colorado’s experiment with more permissive drug laws?

    Maybe Obama should be pushing for stronger drug laws, not gun laws.
    DRJ (15874d) — 11/29/2015 @ 2:03 am

    Actually DRJ if someone uses illegal drugs they can not illegally own a firearm. And that’s a federal law. If a state legalizes “medical” or recreational marijauna (but I repeat myself) then they are barred from owning or at least purchasing a firearm.

    So we don’t need stronger drug or gun laws. The question for Prom Queen is, with all these states issuing medical marijuana cards why aren’t people holding those cards in the NICS database as prohibited persons? It is after all federal law.

    That wouldn’t have helped in the Rocky Mountain High state since you don’t need a medical marijuana card to buy recreational marijuana. But presumably you have to show ID. The libs are big on registering every legal firearm transaction. Wouldn’t they jump at the chance to register every illegal drug transaction? If we had a federal database of illegal drug users available to the NICS system we could cut down on this sort of senseless violence.

    In any case this guy was already prohibited from owning a gun if he used pot. So why did the Obama administration let him buy one?

    Steve57 (a13395)

  156. * Actually DRJ if someone uses illegal drugs they can not illegally legally own a firearm.

    Duh!

    Steve57 (a13395)

  157. where she’s walking a lil kitty cat is more arty but her smile with the goat stealed my heart

    happyfeet (831175)

  158. Just to interject some facts into this discussion.

    If it’s a lie told by “misleadingly edited” videos made by evil righties that PP was selling baby parts for money then…

    why did PP president Cecile Richards reverse PP’s policy and have to tell her affiliates to stop selling baby parts for money?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/13/planned-parenthood-to-stop-taking-reimbursements-for-body-part-donations/?intcmp%3Dlatestnews

    …Beleaguered abortion provider Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday it would no longer accept money from researchers for aborted baby parts, citing a desire to defang “an anti-abortion political agenda” in the wake of a series of undercover videos that appear to show the organization profited from fetal organ sales.

    Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards revealed the policy shift in a letter to Francis Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health. Planned Parenthood has maintained it only recoups its own expenses for harvesting and donating fetal tissue, the actual sale of which is barred by federal law.

    “In order to completely debunk the disingenuous argument that our opponents have been using – and to reveal the true political purpose of these attacks – our Federation has decided, going forward, that any Planned Parenthood health center that is involved in donating tissue after an abortion for medical research will…accept no reimbursement for its reasonable expenses,” Richards wrote.

    When you look through the transparent PP lies, if affiliates continue to do this for free, what possible “reasonable expenses” could they have ever had?

    The baby part harvesting companies have baby part harvesting technicians on site, and then the baby part harvesting companies transport the “product” back to the home office.

    Otherwise PP affiliates have to pay medical waste companies to haul away the truckloads of tiny corpses. Which is expensive. NOT letting the baby part harvesting companies do that job for them is expensive. Letting the baby part harvesting companies have what they want cuts down on the amount of “medical waste” they have to pay to get rid of.

    Ghoulishly, by the way, PP workers refer to the medical waste trucks as “the nursery.”

    77. Premeditated murder is what it is. Elective abortion is premeditated murder…

    n.n (0b901a) — 11/29/2015 @ 12:35 pm

    Unfortunately not under our laws, but the civilized thing to do when one suspects a crime has been committed is to have law enforcement investigate. As we have seen, the Democrats will fight tooth and nail to prevent anyone from investigating. Which is why Dr. Gosnell could operate so long. To avoid the appearance of being pro-lifers state investigators never conducted any of the investigations they were required to perform.

    Again, to put this into perspective, Dr. Gosnell was convicted of first degree murder in three cases of babies born alive in his abattoir, and of involuntary manslaughter when he overdosed one of the women who went their for an abortion. We’ll never know how many more human beings he killed, both adult and infants, since the authorities were studiously looking the other way for perhaps decades.

    But we do know just from the results of the trial that Dr. Gosnell was responsible for killing more people at an abortion clinic than this Colorado loon. But you’ll not hear a peep from the press.

    Because Barack Obama, Democratic party, the LHMFM (but I repeat myself), and PP (there I go again repeating myself) know Dr. Gosnell wasn’t an outlier. Abortionists kill babies born alive all the time. That’s why Prom Queen wouldn’t vote for the Illinois Born Alive Act, that’s why the Democrats (and some “pro-choice” Republicans) won’t conduct even the inspections mandated by law. That’s why PP constantly resists laws mandating that abortion clinics maintain the same standards as walk-in health clinics, laws that abortionists have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital in case of a botched abortion (either they injure the woman or the baby is born alive), and most especially PP fights like a cornered rat against laws that require them to treat a baby born alive like the human being that it is, and that if a baby is born alive they have to care for it. It’s not a baby if the mother doesn’t want it, whether the baby is inside or outside the womb. It doesn’t matter if the law says it’s illegal to kill the baby after it’s born, Gosnell-like they don’t care what the law says they’re going to kill it.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/video-planned-parenthood-official-argues-right-post-birth-abortion/712198

    …Alisa LaPolt Snow, the lobbyist representing the Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates, testified that her organization believes the decision to kill an infant who survives a failed abortion should be left up to the woman seeking an abortion and her abortion doctor.

    “So, um, it is just really hard for me to even ask you this question because I’m almost in disbelief,” said Rep. Jim Boyd. “If a baby is born on a table as a result of a botched abortion, what would Planned Parenthood want to have happen to that child that is struggling for life?”

    “We believe that any decision that’s made should be left up to the woman, her family, and the physician,” said Planned Parenthood lobbyist Snow…

    Speaking of loons, only a loon would say that the states haven’t turned up any evidence of any crimes. For two reasons. In Texas, at least, and I’m sure in some other states the investigations are ongoing. Since the investigations haven’t wrapped up it’s stupid to say they haven’t found evidence.

    Second, PP may have committed federal crimes. Two of the alleged crimes are that PP didn’t inform the women they were going to sell donate (ahem) the baby parts, and that PP altered their procedures to preserve the baby parts for highest sale value donation. PP would have had a strong financial incentive to violate federal law and alter their procedures to preserve as much as the baby as possible for later sale. There was almost nothing apparently they baby harvesting companies couldn’t use if it was in good condition. The more PP could sell, the less they had to spend on disposal. So that is pure profit.

    Failing to inform the woman and altering abortion procedures may not be against the law in a particular state, but they are definitely federal crimes.

    Figure the odds of Tiger Beat having his DoJ prosecute no matter how irrefutable the evidence, considering he believes in post-birth abortion just as much as PP and Dr. Gosnell.

    Steve57 (a13395)

  159. U of C over-reacted. The threat was not credible. You cannot buy an M-4 and two Desert Eagles with foodstamps.

    nk (dbc370)

  160. Hey
    A friend of mine is stuck in moderation.

    MD in Philly (not in Philly) (deca84)

  161. so sorry to hear that, mg,

    narciso (732bc0)


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