Patterico's Pontifications

6/21/2012

Brett Kimberlin’s Planned Lawfare for the Summer?

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:00 am

June 11, 2012:

When Aaron Walker was represented by a pro bono lawyer, Brett Kimberlin told that pro bono lawyer that he (Kimberlin) planned to file a RICO lawsuit against Aaron, me, Liberty Chick, and others.

I think I found the lawyer who is planning to serve as their hired gun.

Here is an exchange between Kimberlin associate Neal Rauhauser and Jay Leiderman. Leiderman is the lawyer for Nadia Naffe. Kimberlin associates, including Neal Rauhauser, arranged to have Naffe sue me and my boss Steve Cooley as a speech-squelching harassment technique.

Much more about that to come.

Anyway, here is Neal talking to Leiderman about a RICO lawsuit:



Is that what Occupy Rebellion said was coming our way this summer?

I bet it is.

This lawfare will never, ever stop until someone puts a stop to it — in a legally sound and morally defensible manner.

Some court is going to have to tell Brett Kimberlin that he is not allowed to shut up his critics by using the courts.

You read it here first.

UPDATE: This should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway: if you are following Kimberlin; or going to his house; or taking pictures of him; or calling him; or emailing him; or publishing his home address; or contacting him or harassing in any way, you are a) an idiot and b) doing this without my blessing. Such idiotic actions are the last thing I want, as I have said many times.

46 Responses to “Brett Kimberlin’s Planned Lawfare for the Summer?”

  1. I really can’t figure out just what kind of bizarre pathology is going on in Rauhauser’s and Kimberlin’s head.

    I think the Unibomber’s writings make more sense to me.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. Some court is going to have to tell Brett Kimberlin that he is not allowed to shut up his critics by using the courts.

    I know this has got to suck, but at least you are on the right/truthful side and Brett’s tactics are not going to keep working forever.

    Noodles (3681c4)

  3. How would an innocent snowflake such as OccupyRebellion have any idea what is in store legally this summer? I don’t understand.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  4. Look at that turd Rauhauser posing in a hoodie trying to affect the image of a street-wise young radical. What a poseur choad. The dregs of the radical left have never been so utterly vapid.

    JVW (f28a18)

  5. This is going to keep up until Kimberlin is expelled from the legal system and banned forever. Also, any lawyer who goes along with his Bravo Sierra should be taken before the Bar, disbarred, and made to pay the damages to Kimverlin & company’s victims.

    PCD (a251da)

  6. Hate group? What does that even mean?

    I am starting the Psychopath conman hate-club. The first rule of psychopath conman hate club is you constantly talk about psycopath conman club.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  7. What, exactly, does a “British accent” sound like?

    Perhaps a blend of English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh accents?

    I expect you are referring to an “English accent.”

    Schooling aside, I, too, hope to see these cyber-bully-criminals brought to justice.

    Larry Reilly (ca98a3)

  8. Ding! ^^^ Dong!

    Icy (1ed9b3)

  9. I would love to see the look on Liederman’s face when NR shows him all those incriminating drawings of Mohammed.

    Glen Wishard (88ea55)

  10. UPDATE: This should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway: if you are following Kimberlin; or going to his house; or taking pictures of him; or calling him; or emailing him; or publishing his home address; or contacting him or harassing in any way, you are a) an idiot and b) doing this without my blessing. Such idiotic actions are the last thing I want, as I have said many times.

    Patterico (906cfb)

  11. it’s supposed to be a hoodie but somehow the way he wears it he looks more friar tuck than tea n skittles

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  12. This should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway: if you are following Kimberlin; or going to his house; or taking pictures of him; or calling him; or emailing him; or publishing his home address; or contacting him or harassing in any way, you are a) an idiot and b) doing this without my blessing. Such idiotic actions are the last thing I want, as I have said many times.

    My guess is that the vast majority of this stuff is planted. However, there are also internet tough guys who are more interested in using this incident to puff themselves up either by explaining how the victims are totally doing it wrong by being lawful. Idiots.

    Dustin (330eed)

  13. Apparently its intimidation in Rauhau’s mind, to stand up to himself or any other lying bully.

    I think he has to know blasphemy is absolutely constitutionally protected, so EBDM is no crime and is in fact protected speech.

    Nadia’s self-inflicted court record of dissembling and instability is related to the credibility of any of her past or present assertions,

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  14. So I presume whatever he has in mind is not only a contortion of law but wrapped around some fantastical conspiracy theory.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  15. What the hell is a “civil RICO action”, anyway? I’m not a lawyer – does such a thing even exist?

    radar (257ad5)

  16. Some court is going to have to tell Brett Kimberlin that he is not allowed to shut up his critics by using the courts.

    Perhaps he can be legally declared a terrorist and confined to Club Gitmo?

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  17. radar, it does exist. Its too long to go into the elements of a RICO action. Its a statute that has been abused in the past to harrass groups. Amusingly, the Brett Kimberlin Crime Family seems oblivious to the fact that they are establishing their own liability under the theory.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  18. That and also I think most of the campaign is to tell us about the campaign vaguely in hopes people fill in the blanks with their imagination.

    I think part of the reason for this is his assumption that everyone has something really really really bad to hide. He hopes people ‘realize’ he has the goods on them and the suspense prior to the summer of lawfare shakes loose the evidence needed… for the summer of lawfare.

    This is the kind of tactic that might work on TV and only works if the targets are wicked. In most cases, such as with Pat and Aaron, the targets didn’t have any fantastic conspiracy or anything criminal to hide. Sure, some may have hoped to remain anonymous anyway just because they wanted to discuss politics more freely, but that’s about it.

    Dustin (330eed)

  19. And by stand up to him or any other bully, I don’t mean idiotic actions described by P above, I mean talking about it.

    Sarahw (b0e533)

  20. So now you’re a hate group? Wait, if I’m commenting here, does that mean I’m part of your group?? How does this work?

    Book (956833)

  21. The Supreme Court has uneasily upheld laws that require government employees to pay the equivalent of union dues to cover the costs of collective bargaining and other benefits they receive, under the theory it helps maintain “labor peace” by discouraging free-riders.

    That’s a gay theory. The multitude of free-riders what work for our feeble bloated useless government are anything but discouraged these days.

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  22. how did i do that my last comment was supposed to go on an entirely different thread on a whole different subject not this one

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  23. does that mean I’m part of your group?

    If you comment on a blog in support of the idea that people can freely criticize Brett Kimberlin, then yes, you are fair game for a number of things, at least in the eyes of the thugs.

    Because they claim to be the voice for tolerance, even if it’s a pathetic veneer on a con, those who criticize them truthfully must be voices of intolerance. Even if they are voices for tolerance like Aaron’s. Aaron’s entire point behind EDM was that people should tolerate other views and speech without violence. Bombing people is not an acceptable thing to do, ever. Though of course Kimberlin’s supporters must not agree with this basic point, which is part of why much of their behavior rises to harassment and intimidation efforts.

    Dustin (330eed)

  24. I must have been careless

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  25. how did i do that my last comment was supposed to go on an entirely different thread on a whole different subject not this one

    I’ve done that. I must have forgotten I switched threads or tabs, but it’s weird when that happens.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  26. Mr. feets don’t even give it a second thought until and unless Mr. Milhouse deems you to have been careless.

    elissa (d2529c)

  27. “I must have been careless”

    Mr. Feets – You might could have been sideways filtrated. Stranger things have happened.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. at least it’s better than the time I got the comment box mixed up with yahoo messenger

    … or the time I accidentally copypasted in my outlook password

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  29. Would not such a suit involve mutual discovery? Also the real possibility of a counter-suit of the same type?

    geoffb (1f4c30)

  30. #29,

    This explains much. :-)

    geoffb (1f4c30)

  31. Seth Allen seems to lack some perspective and maturity. Seems young and gullible to me. he is not sure who to trust.

    scable (40a8c6)

  32. hah Hi Mr. geoff

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  33. Seth is not young but he is very emotional.

    Patterico (123f8e)

  34. He also acts like an asshole sometimes. Like now.

    Patterico (123f8e)

  35. Another understatement.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  36. I see from the twitter repeat that the clown is sending tweets to you. I enjoy seeing evidence on the internet that this Leiderman clown can’t read California Rules of Professional Conduct.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  37. elissa @ 27,

    I saw that, too. Funny.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  38. How many lawyers in this economy are in a position to give free services to multiple out-of-state clients referred by an acquaintance, and in litigation unlikely to produce any revenue or result beyond embarrassment for the attorney who brought it?

    Now, hypothetically speaking, if you could finagle a non-profit status and sucker some donations to the “cause,” you could potentially clean some of that money if you operated out of your home and charged the non-profit rent. It might work better if you lived with someone else, a domestic partner or family member, so it wasn’t in your own name but still close enough not to lose sight of.

    You might try that plan out, starting with a reasonable rent level that no one would think exorbitant so even the suspicious wouldn’t look too closely at the expense if they looked at the public documents. If it worked for a while, and you needed more cash for something else, you could raise your own rent by an outlandish amount, and only someone who bothered to check closely might notice it.

    Another way to make money disappear with a legitimate veneer to the process would be to invent a problem and hire someone to fix it. Again, that person could be someone close, who maybe helps you in other ways or even kicks back a portion of income. The information available to the public wouldn’t enlighten anyone if there were any burst pipes that required a full-time plumber, or whatever the imaginary problem might be.

    My attorney gives me good value for his fees, and in recent years has handled minor matters for me without billing for his work, which I take as a residual off my past patronage and referrals of several other good clients. But I would never dream of asking him to represent others in some sort of grudge action for free, and he would have to be nuts to do it, IMO.

    So a question might be, who would pay a lawyer to do something like that?

    Estragon (13e813)

  39. Patterico – note that Anonymous has been implicated in the bomb threats that virtually shut down the University of Pittsburgh last semester.

    http://pittnews.com/newsstory/ohio-man-charged-in-internet-threats-aimed-at-pitt/

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)

  40. I noticed that Neal’s buddy lawyer, just before smearing Patterico, said that assassination was part of the ideal democracy.

    Had Aaron’s lawyer said something like that (he never would), Brett would say it’s meant to be alarming and therefore harassment.

    These people are nuts and thugs.

    Dustin (330eed)

  41. Pat:

    The update unfortunately has to be a part of every post on this subject fom you. As my lawyer says, document everything. I know, I’m giving legal advice to a lawyer.

    I suspect strongly that very few people who are on your side ever did anything to threaten or harass the bad guys.

    ukuleledave (cd0ea9)

  42. Hard to see what legal argument can be made to stop them from filing lawsuits, especially when law already provides an avenue for redress for frivolous claims made by a plaintiff against a defendant. Isn’t the only answer to, in effect, retaliate by filing complaints of one’s own?

    School Marm (aac638)

  43. I noticed that Neal’s buddy lawyer, just before smearing Patterico, said that assassination was part of the ideal democracy.

    I’ve always wondered if the left understands the world they want, and if they realize how lucky they are that they haven’t been allowed to bring it to be.

    I guess they don’t, really.

    Rob Crawford (04f50f)

  44. Well they denounce Brandon Darby, what does that tell you?

    narciso (8bfa44)

  45. Those twitter messages to LeidermanDevine are dated March 30. Their big concern at that time was not Brett Kimberlin’s reputation. It was James O’Keefe and Project Veritas. And in particular the Nadia Naffe lawsuit.

    See http://www.popehat.com/2012/03/26/nadia-naffe-wont-shut-up-but-shell-threaten-you-to-make-you-shut-up/

    This would have been a lawsuit by Nadia Naffe (Leiderman was already her lawyer) against James O’Keefe, project Veritas, Breitbart.com and maybe some others who might be roped in.

    30. Comment by geoffb — 6/21/2012 @ 2:24 pm

    Would not such a suit involve mutual discovery? Also the real possibility of a counter-suit of the same type?

    Neal would set up a new special organization to do it.

    39. Comment by Estragon — 6/21/2012 @ 10:55 pm:

    So a question might be, who would pay a lawyer to do something like that?

    People who wanted Democrats to win elections. That would be the selling point.

    He was thinking of James O’Keefe. O’Keefe was dealing directly with issues of election machinery.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)


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