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5/2/2012

Obama the Braggart: I’m the Guy Who Went After Bin Laden, You Know

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:31 am



Following up on Karl’s excellent post from yesterday, we have this from Michael Mukasey:

While contemplating how the killing of bin Laden reflects on the president, consider the way he emphasized his own role in the hazardous mission accomplished by SEAL Team 6:

“I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority . . . even as I continued our broader effort. . . . Then, after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community I was briefed . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . And finally last week I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . .”

Mukasey constrasts this “me me me” attitude with that of George W. Bush:

The man from whom President Obama has sought incessantly to distance himself, George W. Bush, also had occasion during his presidency to announce to the nation a triumph of intelligence: the capture of Saddam Hussein. He called that success “a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq.” He attributed it to “the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator’s footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers. . . . Their work continues, and so do the risks.”

He did mention himself at the end: “Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate them.”

This video, with the smug look on Obama’s face as he discusses how he went after Bin Laden, makes the point well.

174 Responses to “Obama the Braggart: I’m the Guy Who Went After Bin Laden, You Know”

  1. It would be nice if he would tell us the threat level Osama poised to America, after ten years in dialysis.

    nk (875f57)

  2. I liked how Chris Mathews swooned over the President’s speech, saying how proud he was of the President, and how wonderful the troops felt to have his support.

    Strangely, I don’t remember Mathews saying that when GWB was President.

    But then, George W. Bush wasn’t the Preezy of the United Steezy, who causes thrills to go down straight men’s legs when speaks, and causes other men to focus on the sharpness of the creases in his pants.

    It’s like they all want to date him. He is a politician, folks. From Chicago.

    Simon Jester (b5ee35)

  3. Good point, nk, and something else to consider. I think that this guy is the worst possible combination: not so smart plus a huge ego.

    Can you imagine the reaction had he congratulated the troops, and said how this had been the culmination of years of work, brave men and women, and even a President of another Party; a good day for us all to put aside partisanship and celebrate a victory against those who would do us harm.

    This would get him a lot of support from the middle, helping his election chances. But he. Couldn’t. Do. It.

    Simon Jester (b5ee35)

  4. meanwhile, back at teh ranch, “factory orders post biggest decline in three years”… “U.S. added just 119K jobs in April”

    Colonel Haiku (2603b5)

  5. and they be shootin’ to kill at NAT0 Summit!

    Colonel Haiku (2603b5)

  6. 0RAMB0 so tough
    killer attack dogs run oft
    for some strange reason

    Colonel Haiku (2603b5)

  7. We have a renascent Soviet Union under Putin, China clearly poised to be the next super-power, Pakistan and India on tiptoes to start the next war, and the golf-playing Kenyan brags about sending our best and brightest to stomp a sick worm?

    nk (875f57)

  8. Teh One is Henry V. He deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor.

    JD (2585aa)

  9. Did you know SEALS must run two miles in eleven minutes as part of the entrance exam? Most do it under a lot less time than that. Just keep giving me that arugula, Michelle.

    nk (875f57)

  10. It’s Bush’s fault my fault that Bin Laden is dead. But I am Bush is responsible for everything else !

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  11. If true, why weren’t the troops allowed in the venue to hear Obama’s Operation Spike The Football speech? Is he afraid of them?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  12. _____________________________________________

    Mukasey constrasts this “me me me” attitude with that of George W. Bush:

    I know that hubris and ego cross all sorts of political boundaries (eg, Newt Gingrich), but it does seem that people of the left are more likely to have a higher threshold before feeling any sense of remorse, shame and embarrassment.

    It’s hard to envision as many folks on the right tolerating and celebrating a right-leaning version of a Bill Clinton, and it’s tough to imagine them being as nonchalant about a Barack Obama even if he were a conservative. That’s why various forms of corruption (whether it’s traditional — involving money — or that which is purely social-cultural) are more likely to be nurtured or flourish when liberal sentiment and voting habits dominate an organization, place or society.

    A good example is to imagine cities like a Detroit, Michigan, or a Washington DC (meaning the actual municipality) being the way they have been and are, and also at the same time being full of right-leaning attitudes and conservative election trends.

    Mark (411533)

  13. I miss George W. Bush more each day.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  14. “As President, I want everyone to know that it would violate your my American principles of fairness if we were to house Bin Laden at Club Guantanamo Bay, but it’s actually okay that Navy SEALS Team 6 I entered into his private residence and shot him dead. I checked with Holder on that one, in advance. But if the members of Navy SEALS Team 6 I had been required by Bin Laden’s doorman to show photo ID when entering his residence, a violation of the Constitution would have occurred. And Chris Matthews, please stop referring to me as Henry Hussein Obama IV.”

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  15. i already linked my cookie recipe yesterday but if Obama really really needs a cookie I guess I could link it again

    let me know

    happyfeet (a55ba0)

  16. If narcissism were a crime Obama would get a life sentence.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  17. At least Bush only flew an airplane onto an aircraft carrier. Sheesh.

    Bill (af584e)

  18. Did I mention my service in Vietnam?

    Unpresident John Kerry (721840)

  19. Today The Hill website is featuring love letters and other information about Barack’s college girlfriends. So see he did too have a social life you racists.

    I will not link to the article because I don’t want to be held responsible for making anyone ill.

    Still no give on the mysterious missing transcripts though.

    elissa (644c73)

  20. Still no give on the mysterious missing transcripts though.

    Comment by elissa — 5/2/2012 @ 9:08 am

    Oh so there are witnesses! Obama DID attend college. No academic records released, though. So I guess we just need to trust that Obama was totally that articulate, well spoken young man with perfect grades and a healthy love for this country that everyone claims he was.

    Book (20a430)

  21. See, this right here is the difference between me and narciso. He doesn’t care if he makes people puke on their keyboards.

    elissa (644c73)

  22. Violent wretching. Good Allah, what a pretentious twit.

    JD (af0c3c)

  23. But the birthers assured us nobody remembers him from college years. How can this be?

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  24. First, Obama made campaign stops in all the battleground states whose votes will really count. Then he visited the troops in Afghanistan whose votes won’t be counted at all.

    Mission accomplished!

    ras (949832)

  25. TJ – nobody remembers all of the names you have used here. Care to refresh our memory?

    JD (af0c3c)

  26. “I can’t find my college transcripts, or my college applications, or my college loan information, or my college
    senior thesis, and I didn’t really publish anything in the Harvard Law Review even though I was its president…but low and behold, here are some letters to girlfriends that Bill Ayers I wrote thirty years ago ! I realize that some will say that my writing style in these love letters does not correspond with my writing style and sentence structure that is reflected in a few of the items I wrote in the local Chicago left wing free paper twenty years ago, but will this finally silence all the Beltway whispers made about me and my former body man Reggie Love ? By the way, I bet that ol’ Mitt Romney never would have mentioned T.S. Eliot in love letters to Ann, while they were courting. By the way, who was T.S. Eliot ?—I’ll have to ask Bill about that. Uh, did you folks know that Ann Romney never had a job ?”

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  27. Umbday, TJ.

    Icy (f263d7)

  28. __________________________________________

    Today The Hill website is featuring love letters and other information about Barack’s college girlfriends.

    The main headline and link currently up at Drudgereport.com is another example of the surrealistic nature of this country’s president. Obama is like a character from a bad movie or novel. It was only a few years ago (even post-Clinton) that I didn’t think someone like him could have managed to insert himself into the White House. That he truly is the occupant of the Oval Office is a paradigm of just how far down this society can go or fall.

    politico.com: One of the more mysterious characters from President Obama’s 1995 autobiography Dreams From My Father is the so-called ‘New York girlfriend.’ Obama never referred to her by name, or even by psuedonym, but he describes her appearance, her voice, and her mannerisms in specific detail.

    But Obama has now told biographer David Maraniss that the ‘New York girlfriend’ [Genevieve Cook] was actually a composite character, based off of multiple girlfriends he had both in New York City and in Chicago.

    Though Dreams From My Father is an autobiography, and hence non-fiction, Obama makes no mention of this “compression,” nor is their any note by the publisher, Broadway Books. In fact, Obama only acknowledged the “compression” after Maraniss learned that Cook had no recollection of some of the events at which Obama said she was present.

    Mark (411533)

  29. “I think that this guy is the worst possible combination: not so smart plus a huge ego.”

    – Simon Jester

    Well – for my part – I am LOVING this business of determining if someone is intelligent based on what they say in snippets in front of a camera.

    Seems like lazy bumper-sticker thinking to me.

    /sarc

    Leviticus (870be5)

  30. How would you suggest we evaluate his intelligence, Leviticus? Reading from TOTUS and uh um huh uh uh uh um huh huh um uh er uh er um are all we have to go by.

    JD (af0c3c)

  31. It is a legitimate accomplishment that Obama’s administration’s watch saw Osama reach justice.

    However, the reports that Obama waffled with such an easy call, then praised himself weirdly, and also handled the aftermath of this triumph poorly… that all is quite consistent with an administration that isn’t ready for prime time.

    We shouldn’t even know Navy SEALs were there. Tremendous intel opportunity was wasted by spiking the football. If Valerie Jarret really did as reported, Obama has a very poor adviser in his inner-most circle.

    Dustin (330eed)

  32. TJ,

    There’s no dispute that Obama lived in New York at that time.

    But where are the people who actually had classes with Obama, at Columbia ? What were those classes ? Who were the Professors or Instructors of those classes ? Where are the transcripts for those classes ? Why doesn’t he provide any of this information ?

    All the Presidents of the past several decades have easily documented their college years, through photos, and remembrances by people who attended with them. And the thing is, these future presidents who attended Ivy League schools, inevitably rubbed shoulders with other students who also became well known and or otherwise successful in their careers—that’s the benefit of going to an Ivy League school.

    Where are all the Columbia grads from Obama’s graduating class to step forward and say, “Yeah, I sat next to him in the chemistry lectures,” or “We took that Political Science class together,” et al.

    Why are these people so difficult to find ? Usually, these people go find reporters and tell the reporters, “Hey, I went to school with so-and-so, do you want me to tell you some anecdotes ?”—in other words, the reporters don’t need to hunt them down as if they’re on the FBI’s America’s Most Wanted list.

    Most people are excited to be interviewed by a journalist when they have an anecdote about having been acquainted with a future president, movie star, pro athlete, etc.

    It’s pretty easy to “prove” you attended college.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  33. Still to come: that awesome presser, during which some intrepid soul will ask Duh Prez “You said you weren’t going to spike the football. What gives?” And Teh Won will cop that “who the f*ck let this guy in?” smile, and say “I’m not. I was just supporting the troops, and blah-de-blah-blah.”

    Icy (f263d7)

  34. “But where are the people who actually had classes with Obama, at Columbia ? What were those classes ? Who were the Professors or Instructors of those classes ? Where are the transcripts for those classes ? Why doesn’t he provide any of this information ?”

    There it is.

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  35. Icy–maybe the media will interview some of the troops who attended the president’s anniversary speech yesterday. You know, to get a flavor of the electricity in the room– the deep connection the front line military felt with their commander in chief who had come all the way to see them.

    Oh wait! Troops were excluded from the speech and Obama spoke in an empty hangar?

    elissa (644c73)

  36. There it is.

    Your sophistry had already been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. That was redundantly redundant.

    JD (af0c3c)

  37. This seems to be the template they are working from,
    although some are more adept than others

    http://minx.cc/?post=328920

    narciso (8d0f34)

  38. The troops were all engaged in hunting down and silencing crickets . . . lest any of them chirp whilst the president was speechifying.

    Icy (f263d7)

  39. As Archie said ‘I apologize unreservedly,’ for subjecting you to that,

    narciso (8d0f34)

  40. While those a****** were trudging through the Khyber Pass to find bin Laden, I had to take the subway in Chicago for a slice of watermelon.

    President Barry So I Ate Tor (875f57)

  41. We know he attended college. At least one of his professors has revealed that he submitted a paper for regrading in an attempt to use social methods to up his grades – to talk his way into doing better because his real work wasn’t so hot.

    But he was a talker even then.

    We want to see his transcript for two reasons.
    We want to know his grades, especially his grades in scientific classes, if he took any, because it says something about his connection to reality and his smarts.
    We want to know what classes he took, so we can see if it was all soft stuff like Marxism 101.

    luagha (5cbe06)

  42. why were there no troops in the room???

    They probably refused to surrender their weapons to the Secret Service; after all, they are in a War Zone!

    AD-RtR-OS! (b8ab92)

  43. Arugala, nk. Arugala.

    Leviticus (870be5)

  44. I think it’s totally legitimate to ask for Obama’s grades. Bush provided ’em. Kerry provided ’em. Why shouldn’t Obama provide ’em? Is it so crazy to think that they might be relevant to us in deciding whether or not we want the guy to be President of our country?

    Leviticus (870be5)

  45. Either way, no one here is allowed to assess Obama’s intelligence based on what he’s said and done. Bumperstickerists.

    /sarc
    /sarc
    /sarc
    /sarc
    /sarc

    Leviticus (870be5)

  46. School grades are what schools give. It is an ongoing fight with my first wife, on my part, to tell my daughter’s school teachers “fuck you”, even though she, the first wife, is the kid’s real teacher.

    I would rather see his record of earning his daily bread.

    nk (875f57)

  47. It seems that the President’s only real accomplishment is the death of bin Laden, and that was the result of the policies and procedures put into place by his predecessor.
    Virtually everything else he and his administration (and as President, he is responsible for everything that occurs in His Administration) have touched has been an unmitigated disaster; from the Stimulus, to ObamaCare, and on and on.
    If the mark, and intelligence, of a man is derived from his accomplishments, this is one dumb dude!

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  48. TJ,

    You obviously didn’t read the passage at The Hill.com about Obama and these alleged girlfriends.

    The first girlfriend was from Occidental, here in LA. But there’s no dispute that he attended Oxy prior to transferring to Columbia.

    The second girlfriend is someone he allegedly met at a Christmas party off-campus in NYC. There’s no evidence that they met at Columbia. That’s the whole point. Where are all the people he allegedly went to classes with at Columbia ? He definitely lived in NYC, but why doesn’t anyone step forward to say that they remember him from classes at Columbia ?

    It appears he initially enrolled at Columbia, began taking courses, but then the trail of bread crumbs ends suddenly….there’s no photos or paper trail of an extended enrollment at Columbia. “Living in NYC” is not “proof” that he completed the full coursework as an undergrad at Columbia.

    For instance, all sorts of people recall going to class with George W. Bush at Yale, including Democrat operative Lanny Davis. And that was a good fifteen years prior to when Obama allegedly attended Columbia.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  49. “I had to take the subway in Chicago for a slice of watermelon.”

    Watermelon.

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  50. “And that was a good fifteen years prior to when Obama allegedly attended Columbia.”

    Allegedly. This is more like it.

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  51. Accusing someone of racism is a Godwin moment for leftist trolls. Next, pictures of your house.

    JD (af0c3c)

  52. It seems that the President’s only real accomplishment is the death of bin Laden, and that was the result of the policies and procedures put into place by his predecessor.

    Basically that sums it up. The key break in the case came from someone we found in Iraq, thanks to OIF. Obama never acknowledged this.

    To be brave you need to have something at stake. Bush put a lot at stake with Iraq, and OBL probably would be at large had he not.

    We’ve had many chances to see Obama make some gutsy calls, from Iran to Honduras. I figure he’ll strike Iran, but in the most cynical politicized way. The OBL issue is just window dressing, setting the stage for an October distraction from the economy.

    Dustin (330eed)

  53. Comment by JD — 5/2/2012 @ 11:35 am

    Yup.

    Dustin (330eed)

  54. On Sept. 17, 2006, Obama spoke at Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin’s annual steak fry in Indianola, Iowa.

    “And let me tell you something else I’ve had enough of: I’ve had enough of using terrorism as a wedge issue in our politics,” Obama told the crowd. “I’ve had enough of that. I’ve had enough of that. You know, I – I don’t know about you, but I think the war against terrorism isn’t supposed to crop up between September and November of even numbered years, and yet that seems to be the pattern. There is a sudden burst of activity, a sudden urgency about this whole thing three months before an election every other year.”

    JD (af0c3c)

  55. Obama’s duplicitous self-aggrandizement is nauseating.

    Leviticus (870be5)

  56. Yes, yes it is.

    JD (af0c3c)

  57. He could have all the ego in the world, and if he balanced the budget I wouldn’t care.

    Case in point, Newt. Not that he balanced the budget, but I didn’t care about his personality disorder because he gave fiscal restraint a pretty good try.

    Dustin (330eed)

  58. “Oh wait! Troops were excluded from the speech and Obama spoke in an empty hangar?”

    elissa – King Putt flew all the way to Afghanistan to give a speech in an empty hangar, which is hilarious. Must have been afraid of getting booed during the speech.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  59. TJ,

    The word “alleged” is often used until the action or event is question is proven to have taken place. For instance, you are allegedly a deep thinker. Until there is proof, the allegation remains.

    On the other hand, we would not allege that you are a left wing troll. That’s because you have provided ample evidence that you are a left wing troll.

    Now, I’m hitting your ping pong ball back over to the sure-handed JD, so he can take another whack at you.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  60. “The word “alleged” is often used until the action or event is question is proven to have taken place.”

    It is exactly your use of it that I am referring to.

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  61. Imdw’s sophistry never gets tiresome.

    JD (2585aa)

  62. TJ,

    Correct.

    George W. Bush’s Yale college years are documented by photos, transcripts, and anecdotes by legitimate living persons, while Obama allegedly completed the coursework at Columbia. But college transcripts have not been proven.

    We do know that The One lived in NYC at that time—that is not alleged—it is proven.

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  63. 500,000 Americans died, between 1862 and 1865, to expiate my white guilt. Watermelon.

    nk (875f57)

  64. Have you looked for information on Obama at Columbia? Or are you waiting for it to be delivered to you?

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  65. Have you looked for information on Obama at Columbia? Or are you waiting for it to be delivered to you?

    What would be the point? We know characters in his autobiography are fabrications and he didn’t admit to it until pressed. I hear subsequent additions after the initial printing contained a disclaimer that some characters are composites, but then it’s too late when you only tell readers that fact after you’ve been found out.

    As far as I’m concerned, the default position is to discount everything the man says as a fabrication. Including the idea that he’s extremely intelligent. There’s no evidence of that given his tin ear and boneheaded blunders. If he wants to release his transcripts to try to convince the dwindling numbers of his supporters that he’s some sort of genius because he ended up with good grades on his ivy league transcripts, he can go ahead and do it.

    The fact remains that Barack Obama was elected on the basis of a carefully constructed public persona that was a media fabrication. His autobiography was part of that fabrication. Even the sycophantic press admitted as much about candidate Obama while they were acting as gate keepers protecting the falsehoods upon which Obama’s election depended:

    End of the Affair; Barack Obama and the press break up.

    Much of this is certainly the run-of-the-mill complaining of campaign reporters who can’t get enough access. Still, the campaign hasn’t helped itself, approaching reporters with a sense of entitlement. “They’re an arrogant operation. Young and arrogant,” one reporter covering the campaign says. “They don’t believe in transparency with their own campaign,” another says.

    Reporters who have covered Obama’s biography or his problems with certain voter blocs have been challenged the most aggressively. “They’re terrified of people poking around Obama’s life,” one reporter says. “The whole Obama narrative is built around this narrative that Obama and David Axelrod built, and, like all stories, it’s not entirely true. So they have to be protective of the crown jewels.” Another reporter notes that, during the last year, Obama’s old friends and Harvard classmates were requested not to talk to the press without permission.

    Of course, Gabriel Sherman of The New Republic was wrong in its conclusion; there never was an ice cube’s chance in Hades that the press would ever “challenge” the arrogant, entitled Obama campaign and its narrative. And it won’t challenge the arrogant, entitled Obama administration now.

    So it isn’t necessary for me to dig to know the Obama administration is lying to me. As a business man, that’s the least of my concerns with this crowd. Compared to the fact that they want to “keep a boot on the throat” of business when they’re not conducting random, capricious crucifixions pour l’encouragement des autres.

    If they want to convince me, or any sane observer, that they’re deviating from their usual practice and not lying in a particular instance then they can release the evidence that backs up the claim. It won’t change the fact that’s normally how this Cook County socialist pol-of-privilege rolls.

    Steve (8ab96a)

  66. We shouldn’t even know Navy SEALs were there.

    We shouldn’t even know SEAL Team 6 exists. Now, thanks to Obama and his fellow travelers irrepressible urge to brag, 22 members of that team that wasn’t supposed to be publicly discussed no longer exist.

    I wonder if in August we’re going to have as large a public commemoration of the body count directly attributable to this administration’s big mouth? I somehow doubt it.

    I’m also curious how the left-wing crowd that couldn’t shut up about how the Bush administration supposedly in some theoretical way threatened DC socialite Valerie Plame’s life and/or career, since by some bizarre logic the lady who quite publicly commuted daily to CIA HQ in Langley yet somehow remained an “under cover” operative with no connection to the CIA, can manage to keep silent about the dead SEALs who’s cover was most definitely blown in a public, self-serving, and despicable manner by the guy masquerading as their C in C.

    Steve (8ab96a)

  67. August 6, of course, being the one year anniversary of the SEALs helo getting shot down in A-stan.

    They deserve to be remembered, don’t they, as men Obama managed to get killed in addition to OBL.

    Steve (8ab96a)

  68. I have this great idea, “TJ.” Either you are that, um, person imdw, or you are not.

    If you are not, say so and stand by it.

    If you are, please explain to Patterico why you should have your ban lifted. After all, everyone knows why imdw richly merited being banned…and it wasn’t about his point of view, but his actions.

    Or you can avoid the question, which is also an answer, isn’t it?

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  69. NBC will have a report tonight (the 30 Rock show) ( PM Eastern time on NBC.

    NBC is now shoowing exceropts as to how few people knew.

    The broadcast will mark the first time cameras have been in the situation room.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  70. Wow, echo from 2004:

    “Obama, who, by the way, was the guy who went after Bin Landen…
    and

    “Say, did you know Obama was the guy who went after Bin Laden?”

    Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master (8e2a3d)

  71. I suppose if he really wanted to make people upset (or swoon) he could have landed on an aircraft carrier with a sign reading “bin laden’s dead” before he was actually dead

    tye (844271)

  72. When you wonder how W’s ratings collapsed, consider
    one of his advisors;

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/02/mark-mckinnon-gop-attacks-on-obama-s-bin-laden-ad-misguided.html

    narciso (8d0f34)

  73. “We know characters in his autobiography are fabrications and he didn’t admit to it until pressed”

    It was in the preface. The politico story on this, that Drudge linked to, has now been corrected. But a new wingnut myth is born, along with “alleged” attendance at Columbia.

    TJ (6eeaf5)

  74. We wouldn’t want anything inconvenient like facts clouding your judgement, TJ.

    tye (844271)

  75. Watching this president and living under his governance for nearly 3 1/2 years, I’ve tried to keep it light and to see the humor in things.

    But I came to a realization on the way home from the office this afternoon:

    I don’t think it’s funny no more.

    Colonel Haiku (6b154d)

  76. he wish they all could be one 0bama Gurl…

    Colonel Haiku (6b154d)

  77. TJs silence is quite telling, Simon. Not like everyone didn’t already know. Not long until it goes beetlejuice and starts posting pictures of people’s homes.

    JD (2585aa)

  78. It is always amazing how “Progressives” think that they are the mainstream and all those people electing Congressional majorities are “wingnuts.”

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  79. I wonder if they’re planning a new campaign spot on how they protect dissidents in China.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  80. The disgusting “me me me” of Obama exceeds even Clinton’s pathology. But the bottom line remains the Obama’s unprecedented failure of stewardship of America’s economy will result in a dramatic repudiation of him by voters in November.

    SPQR (a3e95b)

  81. That’s an awesome video.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  82. #83- I wouldn’t be too sure about that; America isn’t exactly in love with Romney

    tye (844271)

  83. I thank Allah, every damn day, for DWS.

    JD (2585aa)

  84. “I am not totally certain I will get to the moon colony.”

    – Newt Gingrich on May 2, 2012

    Colonel Haiku (7f84dc)

  85. Steve,

    You bring up a good point about Valerie Plame commuting to CIA HDQTRS on a daily basis.
    By definition, if she’s commuting there on a daily basis for all of the foreign spies to write down her vehicle’s license plate and photograph everyone who comes and goes on a daily basis, she couldn’t possibly have been “under cover.”

    Elephant Stone (0ae97d)

  86. Kristof revealed that she had been ‘burned’ by Aldrich Ames, back in ’94, other sources indicate
    that the Cuban spy agency, had her file the following year, seeing as she didn’t have a code
    name, when she supposedly was undercover, the whole
    notion that she was covert at any time since 1997,
    was thin and none.

    narciso (8d0f34)

  87. secret agent gal
    Plame-Wilson undercover
    of vanity fair

    Colonel Haiku (7f84dc)

  88. Nothing spells authenticity like composite girlfriends.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  89. Wow, that video is brutal.

    The reason it works, though, is not the dramatic music or the gripping video of real heroes in harm’s way. It works because it relies so heavily on video of Obama.

    I remember having an argument with a liberal friend back in 2008 over whether Obama really was “shooting the finger” in all those photographs in which his middle finger was casually extended, as if his hand had simply come to rest in that position by random distribution of air currents, even though he was simultaneously smirking and making some cheap shot about someone or something he disrespects. My liberal friend insisted that no one in a position of such power and influence could possibly be that petty and juvenile.

    Sucker.

    George Parr (a3158b)

  90. Pah. That wasn’t the Dean of Duval County just now, that was Beldar the Forgetful.

    Beldar (a3158b)

  91. It’s really hard to imagine Obama seeing this and not having some sense of shame and embarrassment because it’s so powerfully to the point.

    It’s also ironic how those who put their lives at risk during the mission would rather not be known.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  92. Dana: i thought it was obvious by now that Ear Leader has no sense of shame?

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  93. It is, redc1c4, but it’s just difficult to imagine such an overt lack of shame and humility…let alone look a soldier in the eye again.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  94. red and Dana, they most likely shield poor widdle Barry from things that show him in a “bad” light.

    Gazzer (233779)

  95. side bar question: it is obvious that some of you are able to see ISP info on posts, but for the life of me, i haven’t been able to figure out how to do it…

    someone wanna give me the key to the sooper decoder ring secret, or is it an admin only toy?

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  96. i believe that Barry’s upbringing and religious preferences shield him from any reality other than the one he lives in.

    redc1c4 (403dff)

  97. Who sees ISP into?

    JD (2585aa)

  98. Only site administrators.

    nk (875f57)

  99. Patterico and Stashiu3 are admittedly ones. Any others, none of our business.

    nk (875f57)

  100. 88. …By definition, if she’s commuting there on a daily basis for all of the foreign spies to write down her vehicle’s license plate and photograph everyone who comes and goes on a daily basis, she couldn’t possibly have been “under cover.”

    True. As a matter of fact, that’s an absolute defense against the charge of revealing the identity of a covert agent:

    50 U.S.C. § 422 : US Code – Section 422: Defenses and exceptions
    (a) Disclosure by United States of identity of covert agent It is a defense to a prosecution under section 421 of this title that before the commission of the offense with which the defendant is charged, the United States had publicly acknowledged or revealed the intelligence relationship to the United States of the individual the disclosure of whose intelligence relationship to the United States is the basis for the prosecution.

    When the CIA assigns a person to a job that has them openly walking in and out of spook central, they have well and truly revealed that there is an intelligence relationship between that person and the USG.

    More to the point, back then the left, when it wasn’t drooling over the prospect of “getting” Rove and Cheney, was publicly wringing its hands over their supposed worries about a potential threat to life, health, and safety of poor Ms. Plame and family.

    The USG had never publicly acknowledged the existence of SEAL Team 6. Until Obama and his administration started bragging about his “gutsy call” involving them. After shooting their mouths off, a large number of those SEALs are dead due to a well planned ambush of their helo.

    Where’s the hand-wringing? Even before these SEALs were killed the SPECWAR guys were chastising the Obama admin for putting these guys at risk due to their irresponsible bragging. After all, they live, are based, and operate from somewhere. And following the Bin Laden operation the Obama admin dropped plenty of hints about where those places were.

    Clearly, the leftists in power and in the media don’t care about the lives and safety of these men or their families. There can be no clearer proof that all they cared about was getting Cheney and Rove on some convenient technicality, but not about protecting the lives of people who actually were and are risking their lives for this nation.

    Steve (8ab96a)

  101. TJ was using the term “wingnuts” for wingnuts…. conservatives are not necessarily wingnuts, but… if the clown shoe fits…. (and in this particular case you all qualify).

    tye (844271)

  102. You are all wingnuts. “TJ” and “tye” said so. Therefore, it must be true.

    JD (2585aa)

  103. Without fail, Schlong begins with the exact opposite of the truth in announcing the way Foward!

    Let us be clear, Panetta and Clinton forced the issue with Gates retired. Boy was called in off the course for his own protection.

    gary gulrud (d88477)

  104. tye, the term “wingnuts” does nothing but label its user as a name-calling troll who can’t actually form a coherent thought. Every time.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  105. TJ wasn’t generalizing with his term wingnuts. Which all of you are. Clowns. See how reasonable we are being?

    Why do you (reasonable) people pay any attention to the trolls? Let the lefty and righty trolls work it out, and ignore them.

    Dustin (330eed)

  106. The previous administration couldn’t manage to get Osama because they placed too much emphasis on promoting a war in Iraq where they had a more personal economic advantage.

    tadcf (6f3ab1)

  107. tadcf, that’s simply a stupid lie.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  108. We wouldn’t have gotten Osama without the Iraq war. It turned out to be pretty critical.

    As far as the personal economic advantage, SPQR already answered that adequately.

    Dustin (330eed)

  109. Dustin, its typical of the stupid vile dreck that Democrats use to convince themselves of their moral high ground, despite the reality that they are scum.

    The key battleground against Al Queda during the Bush administration was the diplomatic effort to cut off money laundering networks that Bin Laden had set up. Because that was really the innovation that Bin Laden brought to terror – modern money laundering methods. A lot of foreign financial institutions were complicent in these networks and had made a lot of money off that trade. A lot of countries resisted the administration’s efforts in this regard but the Bush administration succeeded. This took a great deal of hard work at the Dept of State, bile filled little pustules like tadcf are utterly ignorant of it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  110. Tadcf – that is a lie, and you are a liar. How many sites have you spammed that comment at? Why stop there? You should have tried Mission Accomplished like tye too.

    JD (2585aa)

  111. tadcf getting his drive-by meme spew on.

    Icy (3c69fd)

  112. The key battleground against Al Queda during the Bush administration was the diplomatic effort to cut off money laundering networks that Bin Laden had set up.

    That’s true. And it’s a diplomatic triumph. And it’s the kind of effort that reduces the need for boots on the ground. In my opinion, it’s far more of a qualification for a peace prize than anything Obama has accomplished.

    Dustin (330eed)

  113. “The previous administration couldn’t manage to get Osama”

    tadcf – Clinton did bomb an aspirin factory, so he’s got that going for him, which is nice, but he turned down Somalia on the personal handoff.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  114. Dick Cheney didn’t have any economic interest in continuing the Iraq war…
    If you disagree with this statement you’re a moron according to this site… but take heart, you’re a well informed moron.

    tye (c516b4)

  115. Monica Missiles! Is there anything they can’t do?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  116. “Dick Cheney didn’t have any economic interest in continuing the Iraq war…”

    tye – Spell out that economic interest for the dumb rubes here. We need help.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  117. Dustin, and its among the reasons that the Democrats’ rhetoric about the Bush administration being bad at diplomacy was such a brazen lie. The Bush administration had many diplomatic triumphs, another being the conversion of India to a close ally, that the Obama administration’s bungling in diplomacy only highlights.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  118. Dick Cheney didn’t have any economic interest in continuing the Iraq war…
    If you disagree with this statement you’re a moron according to this site… but take heart, you’re a well informed moron.

    Comment by tye — 5/3/2012 @ 9:03 am

    You are a liar, tye. Not to mention, plainly illiterate.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  119. tye – Are you saying Bill Clinton put in place a U.S. policy of regime change in Iraq because of Dick Cheney’s economic interests and that George Bush tricked Congress into voting in favor of a war in Iraq for those same interests?

    Can you reveal the secrets of those interests to the readers of this blog? Pretty please?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  120. __________________________________________

    I remember having an argument with a liberal friend back in 2008 over whether Obama really was “shooting the finger” in all those photographs in which his middle finger was casually extended

    I gave a pass to Obama on that one (eg, the issue of whether he was slyly giving the finger to Hillary back in 2008), but more recent observations and information about him lead me to realize he’s more absurd and flaky than I even originally assumed he was.

    This country will never live down having put someone like him into the White House. He’s like Bill Clinton Redux and Extremis. The bar had been lowered so far by Barry Soetero, that this society will be desensitized and dumbed down forever after.

    Mark (411533)

  121. Not to mention, when were these Vice Presidential salary bonuses from invading countries put into his compansation plan?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  122. Mark, I think the tell-all books from administration insiders after he’s out of office are going to be pretty shocking just in terms of how much of an incompetent he is.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  123. The Bush administration had many diplomatic triumphs, another being the conversion of India to a close ally, that the Obama administration’s bungling in diplomacy only highlights.

    Yeah. India is key to the future.

    And yeah, Obama has made such a mess in so many places. From Honduras to Iran, he’s made a lot of messes for the next President to deal with. That’s not really adequate. I think he’s left messes that will come back and haunt us for the next thirty to fifty years, much like Carter did.

    Bush wasn’t patting himself on the back (and maybe he should have done a better job of that), but he really was effective at foreign policy.

    Dustin (330eed)

  124. Was that Arianna Huffington saying that what Obama did was despicable? (In making this political.)

    If yes, there is hope for change.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  125. Factcheck did a very detailed demolition of all the libtard lies about Cheney’s Halliburton war profiteering:

    http://www.factcheck.org/kerry_ad_falsely_accuses_cheney_on_halliburton.html

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  126. Well, factcheck.org pretty plainly says that tye and tadcf are liars.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  127. ______________________________________________

    in terms of how much of an incompetent he is.

    And, SPQR, what will it say about all of us (meaning the American electorate in general) if he somehow manages to be reelected later this year?

    The very fact he still does as well as he’s doing in opinion polls, and exceeds the standing of George W Bush towards the end of his second term, hints that the US is coming down with a dose of Argentina-itis, or Mexico-itis, or Greece-itis.

    I look at the history of Argentina in particular since it’s a country in the Americas, is demographically predominantly of European background, and has an electorate that consistently and idiotically leans left, no matter what. Argentina’s past 100 years of history are full of regularly occurring economic crises and failings, plenty of corruption, and yet its people vote in a pattern similar to what’s found in cities like Detroit or DC.

    Leftism is a peculiar scourge that dominates so much of the human species. To make matters more complicated, there’s also the weird Sharia-ized, rightist mentality in parts of the Middle East. The two deserve each other.

    Mark (411533)

  128. I don’t have a problem with Obama celebrating that his watch saw Osama found. That’s great. Who wouldn’t be proud of that?

    It’s just such an easy call, though. And the claim Romney wouldn’t have made it is dishonest and stupid. And it’s not like Obama did a great job, either.

    And if Obama were smart, he could have brought Bush in to discuss how this is not a partisan triumph and how the steep price the United States has been paying has indeed yielded something. Bush isn’t running for office, so this costs nothing. it’s something this nation needs to hear, and something our president should want to say. But he had to be political about this…

    I think this is just setting the stage, though. I think they have a clear path to changing the narrative from the economy and changing the narrative on things like gas prices. If Obama is prefaced as the steely warrior and strikes Iran cynically close to election day, it will help his election chances.

    Dustin (330eed)

  129. Dustin, I agree that the problem was not the celebration/acknowledgment, but making the issue that he did something great in doing it that Romney would not have done. His bragging here looks back on his bragging as a candidate that he would violate Pakkistan sovereignty as a good thing, and Romney’s unwillingness to make such a statement as evidence of Romney’s lack of backbone. (And it was Bush who had rogue cowboy foreign policy, remember.)

    I agree that if Obama was smart, or had at least one smart advisor who could make the case, he could have made himself look like a “big” man by giving the credit to the military and intel communities, and brought in Bush to join him. It would have been consistent (for once) with his campaign promise of putting partisanship aside.

    But that is a big “if”.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  130. My first thought, when I heard the news, is that he was on the golf course and had no clue about it. Nothing has changed my mind since. This is all afterthought (not to say revisionism).

    nk (875f57)

  131. This sad clown could not plan the assassination of a tomato for a salad.

    nk (875f57)

  132. “And the claim Romney wouldn’t have made it is dishonest and stupid.”

    Of course it’s dishonest and stupid and just another example of Media Matters selective quoting from the Obama Campaign. In a speech Romney said “It’s not worth moving heaven and Earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.” A few days later at the May 3, 2007, California Republican debate he was given the opportunity to clarify his remarks and he said the following:

    “Romney: Thank you. Of course we get Osama bin Laden and track him wherever he has to go, and make sure he pays for the outrage he exacted upon America.

    Moderator: Can we move heaven and earth to do it?

    Romney: We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person — Osama bin Laden — because after we get him, there’s going to be another and another.

    This is about Shia and Sunni. This is about Hezbollah and Hamas and Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a worldwide jihadist effort to try and cause the collapse of all moderate Islamic governments and replace them with a caliphate.

    They ultimately want to bring down the United States of America.

    This is a global effort we’re going to have to lead to overcome this jihadist effort. It’s more than Osama bin Laden.

    But he is going to pay, and he will die.”

    The Obama campaign is essentially following the narrative in its ad that Romney specifically said was dangerous to follow. Go figure.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  133. Dustin writes: And if Obama were smart, he could have brought Bush in to discuss how this is not a partisan triumph and how the steep price the United States has been paying has indeed yielded something. Bush isn’t running for office, so this costs nothing.

    With respect my friend, you are wrong. It costs Obama a lot because Obama is still running against Bush this year.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  134. Romney’s unwillingness to make such a statement as evidence of Romney’s lack of backbone.

    Yeah, that’s an incredibly unprofessional politicization.

    No sane presidential candidate should promise a willingness to do that. Mccain made a similar point.

    AND this is why that strike should have been completely covert. The USA shouldn’t just broadcast that it violated Pakistan’s sovereignty with this specific military unit. The tiny ego rush that gave Joe Biden wasn’t worth the price our military paid.

    We have many operations like this, in Iran with drones, with spies, with dozens of other efforts, and that’s part of the job of being CinC, but discretion is also part of the job.

    It’s hitting below the belt to demand Romney not be discrete about covert operations.

    Had Obama shown he was post partisan with the Bin Laden triumph, he would have been a greater man, but that’s the irony. he can’t just artificially be a great man. It would take greatness.

    Dustin (330eed)

  135. With respect my friend, you are wrong. It costs Obama a lot because Obama is still running against Bush this year.

    Touche’

    Dustin (330eed)

  136. As someone said (probably Treacher), it seems Obama inherited everything from Bush except the intel infrastructure that led to Bin Laden.

    Dustin (330eed)

  137. President Obama is a very small and transparent man as is evidenced by his ongoing and revolting “1st anniversary” victory lap. One of the many reasons I can no longer stand to even listen to him speak is his constant use of I, me, my for all occasions. President Obama seems incapable of saying “our”, such as in our national security team which would connote that the national security team serves the interests of America and all Americans. Instead, he takes full credit, puts himself at the center of any story and always says things like “I instructed my national security team….” It is an Obama tic which is very telling of his arrogance, illustrative of his narcissism and quite unseemly and disrespectful. Here is what he said April 2011:

    These are the leaders that I’ve chosen to help guide us through the difficult days ahead,” Mr Obama said with Mr Gates, Mr Panetta, Gen Petraeus and other officials standing next to him at the White House.
    I will look to them and my entire national security team for their counsel, continuity and unity of effort that this moment in history demands,” Mr Obama said of his newly nominated staff.

    elissa (9c3981)

  138. Elissa – even his composite girlfriend made a reference to his narcissism.

    JD (2585aa)

  139. I agree that if Obama was smart, or had at least one smart advisor who could make the case, he could have made himself look like a “big” man by giving the credit to the military and intel communities, and brought in Bush to join him. It would have been consistent (for once) with his campaign promise of putting partisanship aside.

    But that is a big “if”.

    There’s not really any “if” to it anymore. Confirmed: he’s just not that smart.

    He’s the President. He has all the trappings of the office at his disposal. He could have praised the military, the intel community, even had President Bush standing on a dais with him as he gave a speech commemorating the the death of Bin Laden in which he didn’t mention himself once and he would have hammered the message home: I’m the freakin’ President who had Bin Laden killed.

    Smart men know this. More importantly, secure men know this. Ceasar’s commentaries on his conquest of Gaul is still a classic for a variety of reasons. But they were clearly campaign literature; elect Caesar consul as soon as he gets done glorifying the name of Rome among the barbarians. He doesn’t incessantly talk about himself; in fact, he’s constantly pointing out his exceptional centurions by name and highlighting their brave deeds.

    Nobody missed the main point; nobody was confused and thought the centurions like Baculus or Petronius conquered Gaul. Ceasar didn’t need to incessantly talk about himself to make it clear he was in charge of the operation. And he didn’t need to run down other Roman generals by calling them out by name and claiming not only that couldn’t have conquered Gaul but spicing his narrative with out-of-context quotes in which they say they wouldn’t have even tried. He was the one general who did conquer Gaul and put the Germans in their place, which was on the other side of the Rhine.

    Obama comes across as weak and insecure. This isn’t an isolated incident. Recall a few months back when the Obama administration was bragging about the effect of “tough” sanctions on Iran’s nuclear program while simultaneously lobbying Congress to water them down? The Obama admin sent diplomatic notes to the Iranians via three channels (Swiss embassy in Tehran, the Iraqi government, and face to face between UN ambassadors). The Iranians mockingly made the contents public, and while I don’t recall the Obama admin confirming the content of the notes did admit it had communicated with the Iranians via that method.

    Obama came across not as a President, but as a whiny teen-aged girl alternately threatening a boyfriend he’ll be sorry if he breaks up with her, then begging for him to take her back. He doesn’t even appear he knows how to act like he’s anything but a trembling mass of insecurities. But at the same time he thinks his political instincts are so unerringly superior he wouldn’t listen to anyone even if they were smart enough to give him better advice. Which is why I’m confident that if anyone has the skills to turn killing Bin Laden into an election year liability, it’s Obama and his team.

    Steve (8ab96a)

  140. He could have praised the military, the intel community, even had President Bush standing on a dais with him as he gave a speech commemorating the the death of Bin Laden in which he didn’t mention himself once and he would have hammered the message home: I’m the freakin’ President who had Bin Laden killed.

    Yep.

    Dustin (330eed)

  141. #141-“guide us”

    tye (58ce81)

  142. Wow. Obama used “us” once while patting himself on the back so obnoxiously.

    I’m super impressed.

    Dustin (330eed)

  143. For a man and his campaign staff which seemed to have a nearly unerring finger on the electorate’s pulse in 2008, Obama and his re-election team look like bumbling incompetents today. It’s been one self-inflicted slap in the face after another.

    This latest episode is a devastatingly accurate expose of just how far Barack Obama is out of touch with the fundamental values of ordinary Americans.

    Let’s hope he runs true to form, doubles down, blames others for his own stupidity, and arrogantly refuses to change a thing.

    ropelight (ebaad9)

  144. rope–I prefer to think of it as his big feet regularly stepping on a rake and getting smacked square in the face by the handle. (It’s similar in concept to a self-inflicted slap in the face, but much more comical to the mind’s eye.)

    elissa (9c3981)

  145. New documents from Bin Laden’s hideout released today. Osama bin Laden said to kill Obama and Petraeus, not Biden or Defense Secretary Gates.

    (I think we heard this before)

    175 pages carefully chosen for release today.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  146. #113-revise much?

    tye (e2accc)

  147. you know tye got suck
    why he’d suck the chrome right off
    a big trailer hitch

    Colonel Haiku (d62f1b)

  148. Of course, the Times helped incapacitate SWIFT, even they had spoken in favor of such a program before, as with the 9/11 commission recommendations

    narciso (8d0f34)

  149. Notice how “tye” doesn’t address his own mendoucheity? You told a lie, and got called out. Now it tries to deny a point that is obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells. “tye” supports allowing the prior system of terrorist financing to remain intact, apparently.

    JD (a1a3bf)

  150. And we used this one, to track Al Kuwaiti

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/12/ny-times-nsa-wh/

    narciso (8d0f34)

  151. tye, revise? What kind of bullshit claim is that? I am not revising anything. I’ve been discussing the importance of the efforts against terrorist money laundering for nearly a decade, you stupid twit. Together with the rest of the Democrat lies you truck in.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  152. You’re not the political savvies you think you are if you don’t know how Cheney made bucks off of the war. Do some research.

    tye (5b00f3)

  153. There was Barack, in cammos and tiger stripe paint on his face, carrying a 60 pound pack, crawling up Karakoam, to get his hands on bin Laden, in a White House dinner entertaining his bundlers with Waygeu. Well, maybe it was beef.

    nk (875f57)

  154. I did not misspell *Karakoram*, it’s how we say it in Austrian.

    nk (875f57)

  155. ‘Lean Forward into the Cave’

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47285743#.T6PH1lJ-jcs

    narciso (8d0f34)

  156. “tye” is a lying loon.

    JD (3e80ca)

  157. tye, in other words, you are a clown for whom actual facts are meaningless. You live in a “reality” defined by its adherence to your fantasy life and you won’t be moved from it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  158. entertaining his bundlers with Waygeu

    Common mistake. What the transcript was supposed to say was ‘wagging steak’.

    Dustin (330eed)

  159. 164. tye, in other words, you are a clown for whom actual facts are meaningless. You live in a “reality” defined by its adherence to your fantasy life and you won’t be moved from it.

    SPQR, no. In other words, you haven’t developed your correct proletarian class consciousness, lackey dog of the capitalist oppressor!

    Steve (8ab96a)

  160. My respect for Dick Cheney only increases now that I realize that, while no doubt his time as Secretary of Defense added to his reputation and he financially benefited from that, it looks to me as though the Vice Presidency cost him millions of dollars directly and untold, priceless years of his limited health.

    My deep appreciation to the Vice President.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  161. Obama’s main interest in the mission against OBL?

    Setting up a fallguy first.

    Obama has no leadership skills at all. And no character.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  162. “If the same percentage of adults were in the workforce today as when Barack Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 11.1 percent. If the percentage was where it was when George W. Bush took office, the unemployment rate would be 13.1 percent.” – today in the Washington Post

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/142248/

    Colonel Haiku (8f3781)

  163. Hysterical. Almost as funny as Alex’s epic flounce.

    JD (d4dd44)


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