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8/30/2011

Rep. Andre Carson: Tea Party Congressmen want African-Americans to hang on a tree

Filed under: General — Karl @ 6:31 pm

[Posted by Karl]

Fourteen glorious months of “new tone” ahead of us, folks. Rep. Andre Carson (D-IN) is the Congressional Black Caucus Whip, also playing the “Jim Crow” card:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG8x6X8xn3c

Lest anyone think The Blaze or Naked Emperor News “misleadingly edited” the video, Carson’s spox confirms he said it and stands by the comments.

In a world where the news media was not in the tank for the Democratic Party, someone like Jake Tapper, Mark Knoller or Ed Henry would ask Pres. Obama (and not WH flack Jay Carney) to condemn Carson’s remarks. After all, the establishment media insists that any Republican running for the presidency vouch for Obama’s religion, patriotism, etc. Moreover, Obama ran on the notion of bringing Americans together. He has condemned the coarseness of our political discourse. Indeed, his most recent weekend media message sought to rekindle the spirit of national unity the country felt after the 9/11 attacks. So when a member of Congress makes this sort of poisonous, race-baiting remark, the first black president ought to be able to muster the energy to flatly condemn it.

But he won’t be asked, let alone pressed for the condemnation.

–Karl

64 Responses to “Rep. Andre Carson: Tea Party Congressmen want African-Americans to hang on a tree”

  1. BTW, when I say Obama ought to be asked to condemn it, I also mean that he should not be allowed to weasel out by saying he wouldn’t use those words. He ought to be pressed to say that baseless race-baiting like this is unacceptable from a Congressman of the party he leads.

    Karl (37b303)

  2. This crap will continue until those exhaulted leaders and developers of opinion at the NYT, LAT, WaPo, ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN, cry out: ENOUGH!

    I can expect Brit Hume to denounce these actions by the CBC, but his voice is crying in the wilderness.
    These idiots need to be denounced by the MSM;
    and they won’t be!
    Nov-12 can’t come soon enough.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (5a8b7e)

  3. …and another thing:
    If language such as this had come from anyone with an “R” after their name, there would be riots right now in major urban areas across this country – and the ones we see in that clip would be leading them.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (5a8b7e)

  4. Karl’s right. This is precisely what Obama was claiming to set out to do when he promised to LEAD us to post partisan post racial government.

    But since Obama was lying about his intention, let’s not hold out breath.

    Dustin (b2fb78)

  5. I stopped listening before Maxine Waters, I had had enough.

    I am not sure there are words to convey how irresponsible and despicable these people are. Neither Medgar Evers, nor Martin Luther King Jr., nor Malcolm X, died for people to say this kind of trash for their personal aggrandizement. It seems clear that these people do not want me to live in the same country with them.

    Not that I wish the fallout on any one person, but I would like to see someone refute these people to their face.

    As an aside, Rush was talking today about some article that was praiseworthy of Justice Thomas by somebody and somewhere (The New Yorker?) where one would not expect it. Rush’s take is this signals an upcoming effort to get Thomas to need to recuse himself from future cases dealing with ObamaCare. I don’t know, other than it is good to remember that scorpions are scorpions and rattlesnakes are rattlesnakes, depending on which folktale you refer to.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  6. This is only the beginning. Wait until it’s close to the election and Obama is behind. Remember the NAACP Bush ad ?

    Mike K (8f3f19)

  7. Wow Herman Cain wants blacks to hang from trees?

    Sure this guy isn’t a left-wing blonde because they say the dumbest things.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  8. I made a comment about this that I don’t see, hopefully it did not get lost.

    [Found it. Dunno how it got into the filter… -K]

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  9. Racists. Denounced. Denounced and condemned.

    JD (318f81)

  10. MD in Philly,

    I would bet Rush was referring to Toobin’s piece on Thomas in the New Yorker.

    Karl (37b303)

  11. Isn’t this the same liar who defamed the TEA Party protesters on the day that they voted for Obamacare? Breidbart’s reward money is still unclaimed.

    Milhouse (ee8a5d)

  12. Of course, JD is right.

    But what, exactly, makes wanting to get the nation’s financial house in order racist?

    That’s what I don’t understand.

    We are in bad shape and it’s only going to get worse. And when it gets worse, it will be like the NYTimes headline: Women, Children and Minorities Hit Worse.

    I know that everyone thinks conservatives just want to kill people and their babies.

    But the reality is, we just want to save people and their babies. We want to stop the nation from sinking into a miasma of debt that can’t be stopped, which will hurt the poor the most.

    Yet, we’re the racists.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  13. Andre Carson is dummerer than a box of spurtycvs’s

    JD (318f81)

  14. I wonder if the local news will cover this.

    JD (318f81)

  15. Considering the narrow “support” which our president now enjoys (when the poll data are dissected by racial groups and voter age and sex and political affiliation) I cannot help but believe that this kind of stuff from the CBC actually hurts Obama’s reelection chances a great deal more than it helps him. There is a limit to how much even the helpful media can blunt this sort of hate and race baiting. And if Obama and the Dem leadership doesn’t step in to stop it pretty soon I fear these CBC creatures will have whipped up a frenzy which no one will be able to get back in control.

    elissa (806a60)

  16. One interesting thing is that the whole ‘questioning your patriotism’ thing made more sense in the Bush years when Iraq was the ‘head exploding’ issue of the opposition. Now it’s economics. With Iraq, a successful conclusion could encourage future foreign military efforts. A poor outcome might head off even worse outcomes.

    Who roots for a poor economy except those shorting the stock market? Does it really make sense to say ‘I’m rooting for a stock market collapse so that we can get a Republican President even though I’ll need to staycation and nurse the Honda for a few more years’? Aren’t Republicans supposed to be greedy after all? To be fair, there is the joy of knowing others are also losing money. And there’ll still be orphans to mock.

    East Bay Jay (19f566)

  17. Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) are convinced incidents like this won’t be reported and/or won’t stick to Obama. The goal is to turn out the black vote, which Obama desperately needs, and they will use any means necessary to do it — including suggesting blacks will be lynched if Obama doesn’t win.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  18. Not yet on the local news. Car chase and rain so far.

    JD (318f81)

  19. Andre Carson is stupider than a bag full of Charles Johnsons.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  20. When the mob, with pitchforks and torches, is chasing the bankers and politicians through the streets, no-one will be asking who anyone voted for – and the media will be reporting this from the safety of their hotel rooms, as they do in any war-zone.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (5a8b7e)

  21. Thanks, Karl, for looking for my comment; and yes, that name sounds like it.

    Milhouse (#11) I wondered the same thing.

    I know that everyone thinks conservatives just want to kill people and their babies – Ag80

    I heard a clip of Pelosi tonight, not sure where or when, but she went on this long explanation of how the Republicans had wanted to keep the minimum wage low so people couldn’t earn enough to support themselves so they would have to use credit cards and home equity loans to get by so all of the bankers could get rich. really, she said that; in addition to saying Repubs really don’t care about having clean water or breathable air, etc., etc.

    People who vote for these type of folk deserve them, just wish we could figure out how to extricate ourselves.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  22. ==Isn’t this the same liar who defamed the TEA Party protesters on the day that they voted for Obamacare?==

    Carson may have been involved, too, but John Lewis and James Clyburn were the two most invested in pushing that lie at the time.

    elissa (806a60)

  23. that’s just so trashy Andre should be ashamed of himself cause of how trashy he is

    happyfeet (3c92a1)

  24. Elissa – don’t sell Andre short. He was right out in front lying with the rest of the leftists.

    JD (318f81)

  25. Does it really make sense to say ‘I’m rooting for a stock market collapse so that we can get a Republican President even though I’ll need to staycation and nurse the Honda for a few more years’? Aren’t Republicans supposed to be greedy after all? To be fair, there is the joy of knowing others are also losing money. And there’ll still be orphans to mock. – Comment by East Bay Jay

    EB Jay – It is always necessary to remember the psychological concept of projection. The things that libs say about conservatives that sound crazy are reflective of their own thinking. If a lib accuses a conservative of doing “X”, it is because the lib was thinking of it first, and assumes others think the same way he/she does.

    It’s important that we remember this, otherwise it is easy to write-off as nonsense. (Note to self…)

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  26. elissa- thanks for the factual contribution (at least someone had a name starting with “C”), that’s why I “think out loud”, because everyone (well, almost everyone) around here is so helpful.
    But I think JD has a point, besides, even if he wasn’t in on that, after this is doesn’t really matter.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  27. I just don’t understand why the only answer to our problems is doing more of what hasn’t worked and the only response is: Your racist.

    It’s insane.

    Yet, the only response to people who say, “Wait a second, things aren’t working” is racism.

    Look, I know what’s exactly going on. I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck, but it’s about time the real racists get called on it.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  28. I guess he’s thinking of all those southern Republicans in the 30’s and 40’s who were members of the Klan. Oh, wait…

    Frankly, since he is calling fellow Congressmen criminals and killers, Congress itself should censure him if he fails to apologize on the Floor.

    Let the media ignore it then.

    Kevin M (563f77)

  29. Funny, JD–I always think of Hoosiers as being so—wholesome.

    elissa (806a60)

  30. The local ABC, NBC, and CBS channels have not covered it, and it is not on any of their websites.

    JD (318f81)

  31. :roll: Andre Carson would probably steal a lollipop from a baby and accuse the baby of racist hate speech if it cried.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  32. Kevin M., good point. Congress made a fuss about the fellow who said the president was lieing (which he was), but once again, the rules aren’t the same for the R’s and D’s.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  33. It is ok for dems to lie…..In fact it is a crime to no tbe a lying dem.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  34. Black politicians remind me of Arab Dictators. Always deflecting by blaming the bogey man for the problem in their backyard.

    S. Carter aka J-Z (049336)

  35. I think I will throw a celebratory BBQ at my house the day Alcee Hastings dies.

    S. Carter aka J-Z (049336)

  36. I did see it at the Wapo and Huffpo. Not condemnation or judgment re it.

    However, interesting to note that the Wapo makes a point to tell us that this is the latest sign of tension between CBC and the Tea Party movement, however, I would disagree and say, no, it is more accurate to say this is yet another sign of antagonism toward the Tea Party by the Congressional Black Caucus,

    Carson’s remarks are the latest sign of tension between the CBC and the tea party movement. Two weeks ago, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), a member of the CBC, said at a California town hall that the tea party “can go straight to hell.”

    Of course bringing up one alleged incident over a year ago is the tit-for-tat proof the Wapo uses to justify its claims,

    In March 2010, tea party members protesting the health care reform legislation uttered racial epithets at Carson and Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) outside the Capitol.

    Both lawmakers told reporters that the protesters used the N-word toward them.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  37. My memory was correct. Carson was indeed one of the liars.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  38. All politicians remind me of hucksters who say they’ll make you rich, while they are the only ones who actually strike the goldmine.

    That has nothing to do with race.

    Ag80 (9a213d)

  39. All politicians?! There are many politicians whom I’m confident would never ever do something like this.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  40. The CBC acted stupidly.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  41. daley,

    Yes, but it’s not like this is an anomaly but rather SOP.

    Dana (4eca6e)

  42. You have to laugh at the chutzpah of a Dem going around talking about OTHERS hanging people ’cause they ain’t got the right skin color.

    The fact that Carson is a member of the racist Black Congressional Caucus makes it all the more amusing.

    Dave Surls (027964)

  43. There are many benefits to the tea party being loosely organized with little formal structure. But a big disadvantage is that no one is there to officially speak for it and defend it against attacks such as these. Tea partiers and most Republicans whether they consider themselves tea partiers or not, understand the tea party platform of economic freedom, lower taxes and smaller government.

    But the Dems have been successfully casting the tea party as racists and fringe extremists and bombthrowers ever since that Obamacare day mentioned above. It constantly surprises me to hear how outrageously radical and racist and specifically anti-Obama many people think the peaceful and patriotic tea party is. When you tell them the Tea Party is about economics, they may not say it to your face, but they think you are a liar or a gullable fool. Because they know what they know.

    The tea party movement has lost support in polls recently. In my opinion this is not because America is any less concerned about the economy and personal freedoms, but because the Dems have successfully skewed the narrative about what the tea party truly is. And there has not been a concerted and focused push back by anyone who is equipped to speak for the tea party on behalf of the tea party. Look not just at the lefty blogs, but also the majority of major media pundits’ articles and pieces about the tea party. Do you even recognize it? Would you like the tea party if it were really the way it is painted or if its memebers believe what they say it does? I fear that something really wonderfully grass roots and precious is slipping through our fingers.

    elissa (806a60)

  44. “sign of tension between the CBC and the tea party movement. Two weeks ago, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), a member of the CBC, said at a California town hall that the tea party “can go straight to hell.”

    Tension? Ya think???
    I’m glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.
    Thanks, Dana.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  45. ______________________________________________

    People who vote for these type of folk deserve them

    One reason I’m not as turned off by someone like Carson or President “Goddamn America” is because in this society that still enjoys the apparatus of free elections and the will of the public, such scroungy politicians merely are a reflection of the populace, or a percentage of that populace.

    There are neighborhoods, cities and states throughout America that embrace the most foolish politicians and support the most nonsensical ideas and policies. If such places are doing well in spite of that, well, good for them. But if such places find themselves reeling and wheezing, then I can’t help but say “you reap what you sow” and “c’est la vie, but please don’t come crying to me.”

    At such moments, anyone who calls those own-worst-enemy type of places home but who also is sane and sensible enough to know what’s good, what’s bad, may be forced to vote with his or her feet. So the moving van often has as much importance and impact as the voting booth. But that’s assuming there always will be a better place for such people to turn to. Hopefully there always will be.

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.”

    “The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

    The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

    Mark (411533)

  46. Hate-mongering & fear spreading for the sake of shocking all of those wavering party members and left-leaning independents back into line. So of course Teh One won’t condemn those that are doing his dirty work for him.

    Icy Texan (896c05)

  47. Not only is this type of speech beyond the pale, there are other serious aspects to this.
    This man is a member of the United States Congress in good standing. He should be called to answer for that speech on the floor of the House. THAT is where the repercussions for that hateful speech should play out, not in hearing an imperial president that in his heart agrees with him say “Now don’t do that, maybe you should say you’re sorry.”
    This type of attack is dangerous. It was meant to incite violence and intimidate voters. With comments from other members of the CBC like Maxine Waters saying ” The Tea Party should go straight to hell and I’ll be glad to help them” it seems that this is a planned and coordinated tactic adopted by the CBC to threaten unrest and violence if Obama is not re-elected. I’m betting there will be more attacks like those, raising the threat of disruption and violence as the election approaches.
    Isn’t it possible to remove a public figure that can be shown to be fomenting violence and intimidation to influence the outcome of an election. We need to throw these racist asses(at least they have an appropriate mascot) out on their ears and punish them harshly enough to prevent similar acts in the future. This goes past free speech into the incitement of violence to bring about the overthrow of what will be a rightfully elected Republican president and Congress.

    Michael (756274)

  48. Carson is my representative. Unfortunately, he is in a safe Democrat district, so there’s no chance in hell in voting him out of office anytime soon. Apologies to the rest of the country for this buffoon and his actions, both here and during the health care debates.

    Jeff Lebowski (05db5e)

  49. if i ever run into andre carson, i will tell him right to his face to go f*** himself. the majority of this country is trying to move on from the 50s and 60s. some in the political class, like this piece of scum, use invective and vitriol to whip up a frenzy amongst those looking for an outlet for their anger and disappointment. the fact that Obama (the feckless empty suit that he is) won’t comment on this but sees fit to interject immediately into the Henry Gates incident of two years ago shows you the truth. Obama is a hyper narcissistic climber, about as for from “principled” as a human being can get. He would NEVER speak back to the CBC, lest he feel their wrath. The whole thing is sickening, frankly.

    sub (366076)

  50. Perhaps Tim Scott and Allen West could put up a motion to censure. When the opposition is self-destructing you don’t want to interfere, but there is nothing wrong with bringing in cameras.

    Kevin M (563f77)

  51. Yes, but just what will an Ethics complaint accomplish?
    The Ethics Cmte has been sitting on the Maxine Waters case since God made dirt.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (f8e76c)

  52. Jeff–

    And Maxine Waters is my Congresswoman, so I sympathize. Luckily, my 2012 district won’t include her (but will no doubt remain Democratic being in West LA).

    Kevin M (563f77)

  53. AD–

    Who said anything about an ethics complaint? A straight-up[ motion to censure. This was speaking ill of fellow Congressmen, which is a basic rules violation.

    Kevin M (563f77)

  54. I believe any such motion on the floor would be referred to the Ethics Cmte for investigation, so that the Members would have “all the facts” to base their action upon.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (f8e76c)

  55. 1 of the 4 network affiliates has a blurb up on their website about Andre’s hate speech. 1.

    JD (318f81)

  56. The left are also accusing Israel of religious bigotry in their wars.

    Why not give palestinians their own state………it’s called Jordan but no not even the king of jordan wants those miserable scumbags.

    Sorry for the off topic.

    DohBiden (d54602)

  57. Andre Carson is a disgrace to his race, to the Congress, and to the USA. The TEA Party doesn’t want African Americans hanging from trees, the TEA Party wants to hang racist bigots like Andre Carson from his own petard.

    ropelight (1679c6)

  58. Andre Carlson deserves to be pimpslapped………………..is that racist?

    DohBiden (d54602)

  59. Ropelight, how can you hang someone from a bomb? They’re not very big, you know.

    Milhouse (ee8a5d)

  60. Great response to Carson’s hate from Allen West,

    In a letter sent today to CBC Chairman Emanuel Cleaver, West called Carson’s remarks “unconscionable” and Waters’ remarks “appalling.” He asked Cleaver to condemn the remarks and disassociate the CBC from them.

    West said the remarks amounted to race-baiting.

    “As a member of the CBC, I look forward to working with you to help end this practice,” he wrote. “All of us, especially Congressman Carson, Congresswoman Waters and others who have engaged in racially-motivated rhetoric, should follow the example of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., not the example of Reverend Jeremiah Wright.”

    [note: fished from spam. –Stashiu]

    Dana (4eca6e)

  61. Milhouse, type hoisted by his own petard into your search engine. You’ll find reference to how a military engineer could be hoisted if his petard detonated prematurely: hoisted means blown-up, elevated.

    By Shakespeare’s time the phrase was sufficiently commonplace to be used by Hamlet to describe one’s undoing by one’s own devices.

    For ’tis the sport to have the enginer
    Hoist with his own petar; and ‘t shall go hard
    But I will delve one yard below their mines
    And blow them at the moon: O, ’tis most sweet,
    When in one line two crafts directly meet.

    My use of the phrase was metaphorical. I’d like to see Carson called to account for his despicable assault on the freedom of American citizens to assemble and to disagree with Andre Carson’s brand of racist bigotry.

    ropelight (0608cd)

  62. Ropelight, I know very well what a petard is, and how one may hoist people up in the air. One need only read the daily news to come across examples of it in Israel, Iraq, Pakistan, etc. Hence my surprise at your suggestion that Carson be hanged from one. I can’t imagine how one would hang a person from a bomb. Your response did not even suggest an explanation.

    Milhouse (ea66e3)

  63. Well, in Carson’s case, you mount the bomb on the end of a stick, then shove where the sun don’t shine, put the exposed end in a post-hole, and step back out of the blast radius.

    He would be hoisted to the heavens on that petard.

    Another Drew - Restore the Republic / Obama Sucks! (e26a22)


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