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1/9/2011

Krugman: Hate Comes Mainly from the Right; UPDATED with Bonus Eliminationist Rhetoric from . . . Paul Krugman!

Filed under: General,Scum — Patterico @ 9:48 pm

You really have to admire Paul Krugman for having the courage to engage in his latest bit of hackery. He didn’t want to do it, you see. He was duty-bound:

Column meta: I hated, hated, hated writing tomorrow’s column. . . . But nobody would read a piece about health-care accounting or eurozone adjustment problems if I put it out tomorrow, and there are some things I fear won’t be said if I don’t do it (just as there were during the runup to the Iraq War); so Arizona it is.

And who else, truly (besides Frank Rich, Markos Moulitsas, or every other tired lefty hack out there) would have the courage to write timeless prose like this?

Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.

Indeed. Except, of course:

  • Barack Obama in July 2008:

    If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

  • Democrat Representative Pete Stark, speaking to a Republican:

    You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake.

Back to our courageous friend Krugman:

And there’s a huge contrast in the media. Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans. But you won’t hear jokes about shooting government officials or beheading a journalist at The Washington Post. Listen to Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly, and you will.

Indeed. Except:

  • Keith Olbermann on Hillary Clinton:


    (Watch the video here.)
  • Actor Alec Baldwin on Conan O’Brien:

    [I]f we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families.

  • Comedian Chris Rock:

    If President Clinton would pardon me I would whip Starr’s ass right now. I will get a crew from Brooklyn and we will stomp him like, like, we’re Savion Glover. We’ll stomp him like it’s bringing da noise.

Thanks to Instapundit and topsecretk9.

Krugman, I’m just taking a small cross-section. It goes on and on and on and on and on.

As Glenn Reynolds says:

To be clear, if you’re using this event to criticize the “rhetoric” of Mrs. Palin or others with whom you disagree, then you’re either: (a) asserting a connection between the “rhetoric” and the shooting, which based on evidence to date would be what we call a vicious lie; or (b) you’re not, in which case you’re just seizing on a tragedy to try to score unrelated political points, which is contemptible. Which is it?

As Richard Roeper says:

It’s the individuals who pulled the trigger, and not any cultural influences, who were responsible for these violent acts. Even if Loughner had a shrine to Palin, complete with a poster of Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” map, he’s the one with blood on his hands.

. . . .

What are we to glean from all this? That heated rhetoric from the right led to the shootings? Huh?

How about this: He’s a nutjob. A twisted, sick mind that exploded. All the back and forth about heated political rhetoric, all the attempts to capitalize on this tragedy, won’t change that.

Why is this so hard for Krugman & Co. to understand?

The answer is simple: they do understand. But they are hacks. And a hack’s gotta do what a hack’s gotta do.

UPDATE: Nice post from Dana Loesch on this insane weekend here.

UPDATE x2: Oh, man. Sometimes the irony is what keeps a blogger going. Paul Krugman, December 17, 2009:

A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy.

You know, I hated, hated, hated pointing out that particular bit of hypocrisy. But there are some things I fear won’t be said if I don’t do it.

Thanks to TV’s Andy Levy.

99 Responses to “Krugman: Hate Comes Mainly from the Right; UPDATED with Bonus Eliminationist Rhetoric from . . . Paul Krugman!”

  1. I could go on about this all day long.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  2. Just last night Olbermann apologized for saying in 2008 that Hillary Clinton should be shot. I posted that in the comments at Krugman’s piece, and shockingly enough, it was published.
    As an aside, legislation will be introduced tomorrow for gun control and regulation of *harmful* language in political ads.
    Sadly, I think the left is giddy with the thought that this murderous spree may help further their agenda of government control. This is reminiscent of the Wellstone funeral. On steroids. Had we not won big in November…..just imagine.

    sybilll (112e7b)

  3. What kills me is the number of Lefties that immediately launched into attacks on Palin and the Right, only to follow up with posts urging moderation and warning us not to use these murders politically.

    gahrie (ed7a50)

  4. Racist teabaggerz

    JD (d4bbf1)

  5. http://www.blogcdn.com/www.politicsdaily.com/media/2011/01/2ndamendment-600w.jpg

    How’s that “2nd Amendment remedies” stuff working out for ya teabaggers?

    TGF (c00d8e)

  6. Gahrie – firedoglake blamed Palin in less than an hour after the shooting.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  7. Them that smells it usually dealt it.

    pidgintodamax (9fc768)

  8. To be clear, if you’re using this event to criticize the “rhetoric” of Mrs. Palin or others with whom you disagree, then you’re either: (a) asserting a connection between the “rhetoric” and the shooting, which based on evidence to date would be what we call a vicious lie; or (b) you’re not, in which case you’re just seizing on a tragedy to try to score unrelated political points, which is contemptible. Which is it?

    I see William Yelverton is unwilling or unable to answer the question posed by Insty.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  9. sybill:

    I just added the bit about Olbermann to the post; thanks.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  10. Krugman is a demonic midget. With all of the hateful rhetoric from the likes of him, and Yelverton, and TGF, etal it is only a matter of time until ….

    JD (d4bbf1)

  11. #

    Gahrie – firedoglake blamed Palin in less than an hour after the shooting.

    Comment by JD — 1/9/2011 @ 10:18 pm

    Which is supreme hypocrisy because she whines about getting blamed for inciting murder every time a weirdo goes on a murderous rampage and sites Natural Born Killers as their inspiration.

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  12. One thing everyone forgets is Krugman is literally directed what to write and instructed to make his columns more viscous and edited by his wife. He’s not really that free of a thinker.

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  13. TSK9!!!!!!!

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  14. Jesse Ventura was pretty big on waterboarding Dick Cheney, but so are a million other progressives.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  15. The idea in a sneak attack is to land a blow and then immediately call for peace talks. The Left had to put out the charges making it all about Palin and her map and they had to do it fast. That is because they had to, almost at the same time and certainly within 24 hours, demand that everyone be quiet and not respond to their charges. To give them credit they are showing technical sophistication. Before the Journolist and mobile hookups it would not have been possible to achieve this level of speed and coordination.

    Lifeofthemind (cb5712)

  16. daleyrocks!!!!

    Hey,babycakes.

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  17. I’m pretty sure the liberal radio station that went under and i can’t remember the name now, but many of the personalities called for Bush and Cheney to be whacked. I’m going to have to look that up.

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  18. How’s that “2nd Amendment remedies” stuff working out for ya teabaggers?

    Comment by TGF — 1/9/2011 @ 10:17 pm

    Well why don’t you ask this democratic offical:

    Kanjorski on Gov.-Elect Rick Scott: “Shoot Him”
    By Jeffrey Lord on 11.9.10 @ 10:09AM
    http://spectator.org/blog/2010/11/09/kanjorski-on-gov-elect-rick-sc
    “That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” Mr. Kanjorski said. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him [sic] and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he’s running for governor of Florida. He’s a millionaire and a billionaire. He’s no hero. He’s a damn crook. It’s just we don’t prosecute big crooks.”

    So where is the outrage liberal….
    You don’t get anymore violent that calling for your political opponent to be put up against a wall and shot.

    Here is some of the “crosshairs” you liberals are claiming is to blame for getting a Congresswoman shot:

    Democrat Harry Mitchell Places Opponent in Crosshairs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqB4tyvxWKA

    So to use the democratic meme and logic going around about “vitriolic rhetoric” being to blame for these shootings…..
    ……the democrats are 100% responsible for these shootings….
    …..congratulations liberals…. The daily Kos and it’s liberal supporters can claim “mission accomplished” with the bullseye they put on Congresswoman Gifford.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  19. #

    I’m pretty sure the liberal radio station that went under and i can’t remember the name now, but many of the personalities called for Bush and Cheney to be whacked. I’m going to have to look that up.

    Comment by Topsecretk9 — 1/9/2011 @ 11:11 pm

    It was Air America and one of it’s leading hosts
    Randy Rhodes did a skit on Bush getting “assassinated”….complete with bullets being shot in the background.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  20. Thanks Baxter.

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  21. Oh and Pat, Instapundit has a doozy Rep. Bob Brady apparently didn’t care about

    @instapundit: Sarah Palin hanged in effigy during 2008 campaign http://bit.ly/hhoWp7

    Topsecretk9 (ab69ad)

  22. How’s that “2nd Amendment remedies” stuff working out for ya teabaggers?

    Comment by TGF — 1/9/2011 @ 10:17 pm

    Can you lay out one piece of evidence that connects Palin or the Tea Party to this crime????

    With all the accusations coming from the “rule of law” crowd on the left……you must have some proof to back up these allegations.

    Only a political hack and complete dumba$$ would accuse a prominent citizen of being responsible for such a crime without proof.

    Do the democratic party a favor and present your evidence.

    Put up or shut up.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  23. #

    Thanks Baxter.

    Comment by Topsecretk9 — 1/9/2011 @ 11:16 pm
    #

    No problem.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  24. How’s that “2nd Amendment remedies” stuff working out for ya teabaggers?

    Comment by TGF — 1/9/2011 @ 10:17 pm

    While you are getting your proof of Palin/Tea Party’s guilt in this Arizona shooting…
    …maybe you could explain how Loughner had a note in his safe back in 2007 stating he wanted to kill Giffords:


    Loughner had started planning this before Sarah Palin or the Tea Party were on the National scene.

    Meanwhile, William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection has reviewed the criminal complaint, and it mentions an intriguing piece of evidence — apparently a statement meant to be discovered after his attack on Giffords:

    “On January 8, 2011, a search warrant was executed at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue in Tucson, Arizona, where LOUGHNER resides. Some of the evidence seized from that location included a letter in a safe, addressed to “Mr. Jared Loughney” at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue, from Congresswoman Giffords, on Congressional stationary, dated August 30, 2007, thanking him for attending a “Congress on your Corner” event at the Foothills Mall in Tucson. Also recovered in the safe was an envelope with handwriting on the envelope stating “I planned ahead,” and “My assassination” and the name “Giffords,” along with what appears to be LOUGHNER’s signature.”

    Sarah Palin and the Tea party were not on the national scene in 2007.Neither was the “crosshair” map that democrats also made…but apparently in liberal land….only Palin’s is to blame.

    Here is the partisan Sheriff that is more interested in pushing huffpo talking points than acting like a law enforcement officer, confirming that Loughner planned for her murder back in 2007:

    Megyn Kelly Lambastes Sheriff For Adding “Political Spin” To Shooting

    (Sheriff admits that Loughner planned Giffords murder before Sarah Palin or Tea Party was on the scene)
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/01/09/foxs_megyn_kelly_lambastes_sheriff_for_adding_political_spin_to_shooting.html

    So what is it liberals….
    Did Loughner some how jump in his time machine….
    …..jettison himself to 2010 to look at Palin’s map……get so angry he decides he wants to kill Gifford……then jump back in time to write this letter back in 2007???????

    Can’t wait to see how the “adults” spin this.

    By the way liberals…..you want to know what hateful,vitriolic rhetoric was going on back in 2007…..here is a clue for you:

    Threats against Bush at public protests
    http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

    Pay special attention to the “tolerant,open minded adults” that have the guillotine set up cutting Bush’s head off….that really set the stage for common sense dialog.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  25. Comment by TGF — 1/9/2011 @ 10:17 pm

    TGF believes that the message from the TEA Party/Sarah Palin/VRWC is so compelling that every fruitcake loon on the Left will be sent out into the streets by it to attack their own.

    AD-RtR/OS! (7c91a7)

  26. Just accept responsibility and condemn the violence kids. Why all this false equivalence and defensiveness and nonsense. At the end of the day it is the Right who’s become more and more violent and will continue to do so at their own peril, not the Dems or the Left. Sorry but most leftist’s understand metaphors and jokes and abstract concepts. Emotionally unstable kids who want to return to the gold standard feed off the anger and rage and American Identity and White Power movement that underlies the Tea party, are just blank slates waiting for their marching orders, and so bravo, congrats to all of you, I’m sure many more Right wing psycho’s are just waiting in the wings and more death and massacres thanks to irresponisble people like Palin, Beck, Hannity, the Right wing blogs, Coulter, and the 24/7 dehuamnization that happens on Fox News.

    That is all.

    Assclown_Dooderontheheaders (6d6c52)

  27. The handle says it all (and has been altered to get around its ban).

    AD-RtR/OS! (7c91a7)

  28. Sarah Palin and the Tea party were not on the national scene in 2007

    Right. Well that’s why this emotional and mentally unstable individual committed his act in 2011 and the Right is finally reaping what it has foolishly and recklessly sown.

    Assclown_Dooderontheheaders (6d6c52)

  29. and has been altered to get around its ban

    Fine. I’ll leave you guys to your fantastical echo chamber of Right-wing victim-hood.

    Whine, whine whine….ooh they’re blaming us….ohh why are they being mean to Sarah Palin, she doesn’t like guns or make remarks about “Reloading.” Bachmann doesn’t say things about violence…Sharon Angle didn’t say anything about “2nd Ammendment solutions.”

    No of course not. It’s all imaginary. This kid clearly went after a Dem Rep, in Tuscon with a GLock 9mm with a 31 bullet magazine because he was a nature lover and he wanted to catch butterflies and a liberal who wanted to replace paper money with Gold….

    Assclown_Dooderontheheaders (6d6c52)

  30. I undid the bannings I had done. Assclown Doodyheads is not banned, though he is an idiot and is welcome to stay away if that is his choice.

    Patterico (c218bd)

  31. Wow. That’s as close to a pat on the back, I’ll ever get from Pat. Thanks!

    Here is a timeline of right-wing violence going back to June 2008. This is not words, nor symbols or talk or metaphors or abstraction. This is the real and terrible thing.

    Assclown_Dooderontheheaders (6d6c52)

  32. For something that’s “not words”, there’s a lot of “people said things we don’t like”…

    Of the few actual actions, one of them was an arrest of someone threatening to cause harm at a Tea Party rally, something I find unlikely for a Tea Party supporter to do.

    The Departed (d027b8)

  33. What was particularly nasty was chief FBI twatwaffle Robert Mueller insisting all day that loony loony Jared might could be charged with terrorism. Yeah I bet you’d like that, FBI twatwaffle.

    happyfeet (aa4bab)

  34. propaganda whore Viv Schiller’s National Soros Radio is still using the Palin graphic as Exhibit A… and yes the graphic is actually there on their website

    This graphic from Sarah Palin’s “Take Back The 20″ Facebook page shows a U.S. map with the crosshairs of a gun scope imposed over 20 Democrats’ districts. Rebecca Mansour, who works for Palin’s PAC, said the images of cross hairs weren’t intended to evoke violence: “We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights,” she said.

    They continue to link the shootings with health care repeal.

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) decided to suspend legislative activity scheduled for this week, a move that at least temporarily prevents another potential escalation in the debate over the health care law. That issue has led to previous threats against Giffords and stirred much of the vitriol characterizing politics over the past two years.

    And of course, RACISMS!

    Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, says inflammatory political rhetoric has risen as a result of the immigration debate… “Earlier in the decade, it was paramilitary groups and nativists who were reacting to illegal immigration,” Potok said. “But then you have the first black president and the economy, which just exacerbates the feeling among some whites that they are losing opportunities, or losing their country.

    happyfeet (aa4bab)

  35. I know you could go on with this all day long but seriously, why would you?

    The ones with all of the “lethal” rhetoric are going to try and mold this communist manifesto carrying idiot into something politically viable for the Bolshevik stormtroopers come Hell or high water.

    The next time a Bolshevik starts on his venomous, historically incorrect, lack of fact filled rants on why we should all be indentured servants to the government…..Point and laugh.No other words are necessary but please do add them if you feel like it.But point….and laugh.

    Drider (5ef5c6)

  36. The Right is continuously inciting violence, from the Left.

    toby928™ (46c113)

  37. Assclown, why all the lies?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  38. “Look we have extremists in my country. A wonderful, incredibly brave young woman congress member, Congresswoman Giffords, was just shot in our country. We have the same kinds of problems. So rather than standing off from each other, we should work to try to prevent the extremists anywhere from being able to commit violence.”

    - Sec of State Hillary Clinton

    What a freakin’ maroon!

    ColonelHaiku (15abe7)

  39. Where did she say that, ColonelHaiku? Pakistan?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  40. Bro. Bradley or others may have direct knowledge of this, my question, do Krugman and others not see their intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy because they are so blinded, or are they so invested in their agenda that conscious distortion is their MO?

    For some reason I would like to know if I’m dealing with liars or the deluded.

    Yes, yes, I know the answer is C, both or D, all of the above, but is their one that predominates-

    and, I have no idea who Krugman’s wife is if he really is told what to write,… and I’m not going to take the time to look it up myself.

    And, thank you for the concise summary. This serves well to be the only needed response.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  41. Over at NRO Corner, they are linking to a lot of commentary that shows that immediately after the JFK assassination, the Democrats tried this “violence of the Right” crap too. Regardless of the fact that Oswald was a marxist.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  42. Much of the early Kennedy conspiracy garbage, came straight from Soviet disinformation schemes, as Mitrokhin has pointed out

    narciso (6075d0)

  43. Krugman is a high functioning autistic individual. In other words while very smart he isn’t playing with a full deck. Outside his sphere of competence, economics, most of his views are indicative of someone who isn’t playing with a full deck. Which is perfect for the average NYT subscriber.

    cubanbob (409ac2)

  44. @MD in Philly -

    They don’t see the intellectual dishonesty because they are not intellectuals.

    Literally everything a Progressive says is projection. It’s all they know. They just KNOW that they are good, so any faults they have are actually the fault of their enemies, and they are forced to act like them.

    Krugman, Kos, and all the rest are intellectually stunted pro-government whores who want papa to do all their thinking for them while they soil their diapers.

    brian (617f46)

  45. Over at NRO Corner, they are linking to a lot of commentary that shows that immediately after the JFK assassination, the Democrats tried this “violence of the Right” crap too. Regardless of the fact that Oswald was a marxist

    Every American of a certain age remembers two things about that event: 1.images of the Zapruder film and 2. the photo of the “WANTED” poster that circulated in Dallas prior to the killing, along with “hateful right-wing rhetoric.”

    It wasn’t until we were grown did we find out that we were totally misled, and that the president was killed by a left-wing extremist.

    CJinPA (72a1dd)

  46. cubanbob – Well, Assclown did provide a link to that ridiculous Insurrectionist Timeline that is flooding the left. People are calling it “meticulously researched” and proof, proof, I tell you, that the right is more violent in it’s rhetoric than the left. I don’t understand how a one-sided compilation of words and questionably-linked is a proof of any comparison, but that is the developing meme.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  47. Make that rhetoric and actions.

    Bedwetters of the left unite!

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  48. daleyrocks, its the kind of patent dishonesty that trolls like assclown, Hooten and others are so impressed by and adopt.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  49. SPQR – Brad Friedman bases virtually an entire post on it to blame the right for Saturday’s shootings.

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  50. daleyrocks, consistent with the level of integrity Friedman has showed, and consistent with the kind of company he keeps, eh?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  51. What is the genesis of that idiotic meticulously researched timeline of mendacity?

    JD (6e25b4)

  52. cubanbob – Well, Assclown did provide a link to that ridiculous Insurrectionist Timeline that is flooding the left. People are calling it “meticulously researched” and proof, proof, I tell you, that the right is more violent in it’s rhetoric than the left. I don’t understand how a one-sided compilation of words and questionably-linked is a proof of any comparison, but that is the developing meme.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 1/10/2011 @ 6:52 am”

    Like I said if you are going to do the time you might as well commit the crime. Hang all the progs and problem solved.

    Seriously they have lost the grip on public perception. They are now playing to their own echo chamber. HCA, cash for clunkers and a trillion pissed on nothing along with nationalizing car companies and agreeing in substance that Bush was right on taxes, the war and Gitmo and other than the hardcore left no one takes these asclowns seriously anymore.

    cubanbob (409ac2)

  53. This is not words, nor symbols or talk or metaphors or abstraction. This is the real and terrible thing.

    Comment by Assclown_Dooderontheheaders — 1/10/2011 @ 12:42 am

    Actually it is pretty much just words…
    Words like these from a democratic President:

    “I won’t you to argue with them and get in their face”

    Barack Obama 9/17/08

    “I think it’s tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers, unless the hostage gets harmed. In this case the hostage is the American people and I was not willing to see them get harmed,”

    Obama on keeping taxes from increasing, December 6, 2010


    “A Republican majority in Congress would mean “hand-to-hand combat” on Capitol Hill for the next two years, threatening policies Democrats have enacted to stabilize the economy,”

    Obama, October 6, 2010

    “Here’s the problem: It’s almost like they’ve got — they’ve got a bomb strapped to them and they’ve got their hand on the trigger. You don’t want them to blow up. But you’ve got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger.”

    Obama on banks, March 2009


    “I want you to argue with them and get in their face!”

    Barack Obama, September 2008


    “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.”

    Obama to Latinos, October 2010

    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

    Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

    “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“

    Obama on the private sector, June 2010

    …and of course democrats made maps with bullseyes on them targeting this same Congresswoman.

    By your logic….you democrats are responsible for this mass murder.

    You still cannot answer how it was Palin or the Tea party that caused Loughner to kill when the FACTS are that he planned to kill her before they were on the scene.

    Yes it did happen in 2011…..and yes you have still shown ZERO PROFF that it had anything to do with Palin or the Tea Party…

    Here is a list of actual violence perpetrated by liberals….not words like you are twisting…
    But actual violence and murder:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/08/breaking-congresswoman-five-others-shot-in-tucson-az/comment-page-17/#comment-4216355


    Still waiting for any proof beyond,”because I said so” from liberals that back up their bogus slander.

    Baxter Greene (bdec36)

  54. Given the remarkably low level of trust that the MFM enjoys today, they’re really just farting into the wind here.

    Dmac (498ece)

  55. I just KNEW that something good would come out of this tragedy!

    happyfeet defending Miss Sarah. I think I’m gonna cry.

    Icy Texan (d3f791)

  56. Don’t. His and his buddy’s asshattery will return in short order.

    The Departed (d027b8)

  57. #40

    Where did she say that, ColonelHaiku? Pakistan?

    Comment by SPQR — 1/10/2011 @ 5:30 am

    Abu Dhabi… http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-about-rep-giffords-in-abu-dhabi/#ixzz1AdC3D3s0

    ColonelHaiku (15abe7)

  58. Exhibit A

    No. No hateful rhetoric. No glorification of gun violence. At best this post is dismally bad taste.

    At worst…

    Assclown_Doodyheads (6d6c52)

  59. Actually it is pretty much just words…
    Words like these from a democratic President:

    Got actions?

    Assclown_Doodyheads (6d6c52)

  60. Assclown_Doodyheads – How about a collection of Rev. Wright’s greatest hits?

    daleyrocks (e7bc4f)

  61. Asssbandit remains blissfully ignorant.

    JD (d4bbf1)

  62. Assclown, incoherence seems to be your only contribution.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  63. That mannequin supposedly of Palin doesn’t look anything like her. It looks smarter!

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  64. I can’t wait to hear comes out of Bill Maher’s trap next.

    Remember that Maher put himself on a cross (I said “cross,” not “crosshairs”!) after deliberately taking Ari Fleischer out of context when he said in a post-9/11 news conference that people should “watch what they say.”

    Fleischer was not, contrary to MSM “belief,” referring exclusively to Maher’s callous statement on his old ABC show Politically Incorrect that in comparison to the suicidal Al Qaeda hijacker/pilots, American fighter pilots “lobbing cruise missiles from 2000 miles away” were “cowardly” — he was also targeting (D’oh!) making reference to then-Congressman John Cooksey (R-Louisiana), who said in a radio interview:


    “If I see someone come in[to an airport] and he’s got a diaper on his head and a fan belt around that diaper on his head, that guy needs to be pulled over and checked.”


    99.67% of the time, a person fitting that description would NOT be a Muslim, but a Sikh; Muslims rarely wear their headdress when not worshipping, whereas Sikhs do at almost all times. Fleischer was speaking out of concern that Sikhs might be the victims of prejudice and violence, not trying to squelch free speech and debate.

    Full details on the press conference and my analysis from 2006 can be found here.

    Now that the narrative that best fits the purposes of the I’m-not-biased-I’m-a-journalist crowd has shifted to “watch what you say,” let’s see if Maher doesn’t spin so hard he resembles rotini.

    L.N. Smithee (62f0ca)

  65. That mannequin supposedly of Palin doesn’t look anything like her. It looks smarter!

    Really Hooten? A woman is hanged in effigy and all you can do is make a joke about it looking smarter than the real person? This is beneath even you. Or at least I would have thought so at one time.

    Dana (8ba2fb)

  66. Because she has a red dress on? I really don’t see the Palin, but whatever.

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  67. only things beneath
    hooten are the small insects
    and the skinny snakes

    ColonelHaiku (15abe7)

  68. Dana – I do not know why you would expect that someone you hangs out at a place run by the partner of a drug dealing bomber would be capable of anything better than that. That was crissy’s “A” game.

    JD (395555)

  69. Do you guys think crissyhooten is playing dumb, or is really as dum as he/she/it comes across?

    JD (395555)

  70. There were black crows, it looked like a tasteless halloween setup by a ding-a-ling.

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  71. Hooten’s refusal to leave after promising to do so reminds me of Frank Sinatra’s line about prostitutes.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  72. From the link:

    The life-size doll with a white noose around its neck is outfitted to look like Palin — with a beehive wig, glasses and a red business suit.

    It hangs in front of the North Orange Grove Avenue house of the display’s creator, Chad Michael Morrisette, who also put up a depiction of Republican presidential candidate John McCain engulfed in flames.

    no one you know (a8b794)

  73. I did that once. I stuffed some clothes full of newspaper, and made a head out of masking tape and toilet paper, and then drew a face on it (not very realistic). I then used a homemade grappling hook to toss it over the top of a huge street light, and pull it up so it was hooked. then I jumped from the top of a van and cut the rope, about 15-20 ft off the ground. It was halloween. a few people got upset, but at least one person raced off, only to get their camera, come back, and take pictures. Yes I was very young. They had to get one of those giant mechanical arms to get it down. Gosh, it didn’t look like any political figures, though.

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  74. I find it shocking that crissyhooten is a tasteless ass. Shocking.

    JD (395555)

  75. Gosh, it didn’t look like any political figures, though.

    Comment by Chris Hooten — 1/10/2011 @ 7:24 pm

    That “gosh” at the beginning was interesting, I thought. Sounds like you have a POV about hanging political figures in effigy.

    Care to share it?

    no one you know (a8b794)

  76. LOL. You have to be kidding me.

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  77. LOL. You have to be kidding me.

    Comment by Chris Hooten — 1/10/2011 @ 7:33 pm

    No, actually.

    I’d like to hear exactly why you seem to agree it isn’t acceptable (people do have different reasons, you know). You seem to have the time just now, and I’d appreciate it.

    no one you know (a8b794)

  78. It’s sort of like putting crosshairs on members of congress. :-).

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  79. Who’s kidding who? “lol” does diminish the gravitas.

    Baiting is all fun and games until the barb punctures the sclera. Was that inciting?

    Ag80 (e03e7a)

  80. “Do you guys think crissyhooten is playing dumb…”

    Yeah, and he does it well, ’cause it turns out that it’s really easy to play dumb when you actually are dumb.

    Dave Surls (f88125)

  81. It’s sort of like putting crosshairs on members of congress. :-) .

    Comment by Chris Hooten — 1/10/2011 @ 7:36 pm

    You mean as opposed to surveyor symbols?

    LOL, indeed.

    no one you know (a8b794)

  82. Explain, Chris. Why was it wrong to hang her in effigy? Why dance around it like a 6 year old? Is it really that hard for you to treat other people with basic respect?

    Act like an adult. Pretend, if you have to.

    “It’s sort of like putting crosshairs on members of congress. :-) .

    Comment by Chris Hooten ”

    That’s interesting. I agree that a picture of a politician with crosshairs on them is ugly. Can’t blame that for any example of violence out there, but it’s very poor taste.

    Of course, it would also be in extremely poor taste to lie that the Palin advert did this, rather than specify district election races. Huge difference between a human being a sniper’s crosshairs, and a target icon on an election location.

    So I assume Chris is talking about something else or something that didn’t happen.

    At any rate, Chris Hooten seems to be dismissing the hanging of Palin in effigy because he did the same thing when he was a kid, only just for the kicks of pretending to kill someone (he doesn’t say who, and he won’t, though I guess it was someone).

    I guess Chris can’t see anything beyond his own partisanship. What laziness!

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  83. Noyk – good luck. Were it honest, it would say that it’s outrage depends on the speaker or the target of the speech.

    JD (395555)

  84. noyk, interesting.

    I never thought much of the bullseye rhetoric to begin with, but you’re right. Palin’s map didn’t have crosshairs on it, but just markings typical for showing locations on a map.

    Chris, apologize.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  85. Or did you mean like putting JD Hayworth in crosshairs?

    These are not surveyor symbols. These are the crosshairs — of a rifle.

    no one you know (a8b794)

  86. Yeah, right, Dustin. I am totally convinced I need to apologize. Oh wait, no I’m not, and that’s what counts, huh?

    Chris Hooten (2b9678)

  87. Noyk – are you surprise that their outrage is selective? And, feigned?

    JD (395555)

  88. It’s sort of like putting crosshairs on members of congress. .

    Comment by Chris Hooten — 1/10/2011 @ 7:36 pm

    Where did that happen?

    Ag80 (e03e7a)

  89. Comment by Chris Hooten — 1/10/2011 @ 7:52 pm

    What would be nice is if you would address the point that several others were trying to get you to comment on before I even joined this conversation. That is the point, and you do seem singularly determined to continue to try to avoid it.

    no one you know (a8b794)

  90. Hey arseclown. How devoid of reality is your mind to put on the record that the right is who is becoming more and more violent? Where have you been for the last 10 years? Were you listening to Air America? Did you watch the movie about W being killed in office? Did you hold hands with your liberal arts prof and chant Bushhitler and BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!!!! and Fascist Bush? Do you ever listen/watch MSNBC and listen to the bombast of Olberman? Shultz? Matthews? Did you go to the counter demonstration where the poor b*&stard got his finger bitten off by a rabid pro death panel leftist? Were you nearby when the SEIU thugs beat and stomped on a frail black man? Did you try and vote but were wary of the NBP member in the paramilitary garb toting a club? Who are the jacka$$es who throw pies at people who are giving speeches on college campuses? Who are the people who protest on these campuses and prevent the exercise of same by speakers (conservatives) they disagree with? On what end of the ideological spectrum to the fine flowers of humanity who destroy and burn at world economic summits? What is your observation on the millions killed in the womb with the full throated support of the earth-worshipping, whale-saving left? Your dimwitted commentary embarrasses you and makes any future argument you might make marked with a scarlet asterisk demarking a fool.

    I say this to you for one reason only: I have been where you are, lost in the fog of academia and books and theory and the coolness of the continuous and constant protest. After a while, however, I grew up. We all have to. There are only so many college professorships available, and, judging from your posts, you don’t have what it takes to hang with the likes of even that fake indian dude from Colorado.

    So…your best bet is to take the small step for yourself, and a giant one for your fellow man, and come over to reality. You’d like it here. I do. You get up everyday and go to work, you realize that the money you earn is yours and does not belong to the government to waste on whatever wanton wish they might have. You will soon absorb that the Constitution is not a “negative” set of rights – as believed by our president – but a very clear delineation of the very limited power that the government is supposed to have over us. You will awaken that the government works for us in order to protect us and to allow us to live in liberty – we are not supposed to toil and work to fund a permanent aristocracy.

    I wish you Godspeed. In the meantime, as your journey continues, try and post something meaningful and accurate. Better to be quiet and thought a fool than to type your sort of tired pap and remove all doubt.

    15yrrecoveringliberal (2792b8)

  91. Noyk – are you surprise that their outrage is selective? And, feigned?

    Comment by JD — 1/10/2011 @ 7:54 pm

    The latter, to tell you the truth, surprises me even less than the former. :)

    no one you know (a8b794)

  92. When it comes to being dumb, Chris Hooten is NOT playing.

    Maybe he can hang himself . . . in effigy, of course.

    Icy Texan (d3f791)

  93. that’s what counts, huh?

    Comment by Chris Hooten

    Well, I admit you shouldn’t apologize if you don’t mean it, but no, your opinion that you shouldn’t give an apology is not ‘what counts’.

    You were wrong in several ways. I guess everyone’s listing them. You take a lot of liberties with the truth, shill for your ‘integrity activist’ that I proved to you deletes the mention of his partner’s name and lies all the time, and basically treat people like dirt if you don’t agree with them.

    You’re way, way too invested in your politics. It shouldn’t lead you to be willing to lose your own integrity just to be a partisan hack. Your integrity is what counts, Chris. You don’t get it.

    Dustin (b54cdc)

  94. Watching Olbermann beclown himself on this issue would be funny — if it weren’t so predictably pathetic.

    Icy Texan (d3f791)

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  96. Alec Baldwin and his ilk only care about the rich people who vote for Maobama.

    And nice to know Hitler Hooten and his various sockpuppets blame Palin for everything.

    DohBiden (15aa57)


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