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2/14/2022

Wyoming RNC Member Who Voted to Censure Cheney and Kinzinger is an Oath Keeper

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:57 am



I’m back from a week away. What did I miss, other than the RNC dubbing as “legitimate political discourse” the Trump-led GOP efforts to steal the 2020 election?

I learned something new yesterday, listening to a Dispatch podcast, in which Steve Hayes made reference to a very interesting news story. It’s a month-old story, but in light of the RNC’s censure of Cheney and Kinzinger, it’s worth re-upping in case you, like me, missed it when it first came out. Namely:

When the Department of Justice indicted members of the Oath Keepers last week for their role in the Jan. 6 insurrection, one Republican official might have taken more notice of the arrests than others.

Frank Eathorne, who was revealed in a leak last year to be one of 191 Wyoming-based members of the far-right militia group, was in Washington for protests on Jan. 6. But Eathorne is no rank-and-file fringe crank. He is the sitting chairman of the Wyoming Republican Party.

That role has made him one of the more influential Republican officials in the country. Eathorne is presiding over what is perhaps the GOP’s highest-profile primary battle of the 2022 election: the MAGA-fueled campaign to unseat Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) for her unrelenting criticism of former President Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election.

As a state party chairman, Eathorne is one of the 168 members of the RNC and thus one of the people who actually voted to censure Cheney and Kinzinger . . .

. . . for their role in investigating the January 6 insurrection . . . in which the most serious charges, of seditious conspiracy, have been brought against leaders of the Oath Keepers . . .

. . . which, again, is an organization to which Eathorne belongs.

Anyone else see the problem here?

52 Responses to “Wyoming RNC Member Who Voted to Censure Cheney and Kinzinger is an Oath Keeper”

  1. ADL says there are about 3000 Oathkeepers
    SPLC says 10’s of thousands
    Oathkeepers say 35,000
    Ensemble avg. is 5000

    9 were arrested Jan. 6.

    The guy upset with Cheney wasn’t arrested for Jan 6 actions.

    So right now its guilt by association unless you’ve got more.

    steveg (e81d76)

  2. Steve g:

    Here is the original source of the story. It comes from hacked data:

    https://wyofile.com/whistleblower-list-names-wyo-gop-chair-others-as-oath-keepers/

    Appalled (1a17de)

  3. The problem I see is that the Democrats are better at controlling the Communists who infiltrated their ranks than the Republicans are at controlling the Nazis who infiltrated theirs. That’s the problem I see. Dogs and tails whose is wagging which.

    nk (1d9030)

  4. Steveg

    So right now its guilt by association unless you’ve got more.

    Patterico never said that Eathorne was guilty of anything.

    PurpleHaze (848fb6)

  5. *and* whose

    nk (1d9030)

  6. 9 were arrested Jan. 6.

    The number I have is 21, using their search feature. And Eathorne is guilty by association. He’s with an organization that put Trump over country and party, and that’s all-in on Trump’s Big Lie, and whose members engaged in seditious conspiracy.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  7. The problem I see is that the Democrats are better at controlling the Communists who infiltrated their ranks than the Republicans are at controlling the Nazis who infiltrated theirs. That’s the problem I see. Dogs and tails whose is wagging which.

    Well, I’d assert that the Democrats care less and less these days, but you do have point about the Nazis.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  8. @6 And Eathorne is guilty by association.

    trophy to montagu for taking the argument to its logical and ridiculous conclusion

    JF (e1156d)

  9. So right now its guilt by association unless you’ve got more.

    Would you have a problem with a current Klansman being part of the RNC? Or card-carrying member of the American Nazi Party? Or is there some point to viewing voluntary association as dispositive?

    Kevin M (38e250)

  10. Appalled (1a17de) — 2/14/2022 @ 9:07 am

    Speaking of hacked leaks…..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  11. Not surprising. This is what the GOP stands for now.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  12. trophy to montagu for taking the argument to its logical and ridiculous conclusion

    In a court of law, no. In a court of public opinion, yes, he’s guilty as sin.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  13. The redhead was a Red?!?!

    Lucille Ball was a registered communist.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  14. Watch the movie fair game if you want to know how “patriotic” the cheneys are. I disagree with jim jordan clinton’s operatives should be given a fair trial not just executed. No blog on durham report here. Interesting as mr. spock says.

    asset (06ee9d)

  15. @9. Those Kiwanis Clubbers are notoriously subversive; and some of those marching Philadelphia Mummers are … thespians! 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  16. Paul, this isn’t guilt by association. That would be criticizing him because his associate (neighbor, member of his softball team, co-worker) was a member of the oath keepers. This is judging him based on a group he’s chosen to be a part of. Just like we would make reasonable assumptions about a Klansman, member of the communist party, or member of NAMBLA.

    Very different concepts.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  17. @14, so read the pleading, compare it with other available information, and write your take on the subject. Too much work for me ATM but you’re free to to do so.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  18. OT- U.S. Is Closing Kyiv Embassy

    WASHINGTON—The U.S. is closing its embassy in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv and relocating operations 340 miles west to Lviv near the Polish border.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-is-closing-kyiv-embassy-relocating-diplomatic-operations-to-western-ukraine-11644864455

    Who can lose TWO United States embassies in six months?

    Joe Can Do!

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  19. My late grandfather was a banker in Western Pennsylvania and as a young man joined the KKK in the 1930s to solicit business contacts for his bank amidst the throes of the Depression. Was he a racist? No. A capitalist? Yes.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  20. OT- Kevin:

    Zelensky says Ukraine has been informed Feb. 16 will be day of attack
    https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-says-ukraine-informed-feb-190318842.html

    Again, full moon, 2/16.

    Told ‘ya.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  21. @19 capitalism is an amoral economic system. everything including child porn is permitted. “The capitalists will sell us the rope we use to hang them with!” V. Lenin. People sold food at lynchings.

    asset (06ee9d)

  22. @21. Yeah, ol’dead grandpa was a banker and a bum… who left me a briefcase literally full of Morgan silver dollars.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  23. Zelensky says Ukraine has been informed Feb. 16 will be day of attack

    Psy Ops.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  24. @23. More like space optics; satellite imagery reveals Russian armor has now been dispersed from the ‘parking clusters’ and deployed along the border for action.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  25. #13

    Walter Winchell has you beat on that story…

    Appalled (1a17de)

  26. @25. So did CBS. 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  27. My late grandfather was a banker in Western Pennsylvania and as a young man joined the KKK in the 1930s to solicit business contacts for his bank amidst the throes of the Depression. Was he a racist? No. A capitalist? Yes.

    Up until about 1950 or so, most white people in America were racist, as was the world they were brought up in.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  28. Again, full moon, 2/16.

    That’s so Putin can roam and attack anyone with his teeth and claws, and no one will realize he’s a werewolf.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  29. Kevin M (38e250) — 2/14/2022 @ 12:30 pm

    Come to think of it, I’ve never seen them together.

    felipe (484255)

  30. @28. Remember, Kevin, he found his thrill, on Blueberry Hill:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkGkr0iceI

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  31. Breaking-

    Sarah Palin v. New York Times: Judge to dismiss former governor’s libel claim in rare case

    A judge on Monday indicated he will dismiss Sarah Palin’s libel case against the New York Times, saying she had not met the legal standard showing that the newspaper acted with “actual malice” in publishing a 2017 editorial that included an inaccurate claim about her.

    Judge Jed S. Rakoff told the lawyers involved in the case that he will formally issue his ruling after a jury returns a verdict.
    #######

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  32. @27 Many especially in the south and even a lot in the north. But many like hubert humphrey and even many before him fought against racism. It was an uphill battle ;but the black community knew they had white allies who protected them as best as they could. D.E.B. DuBois walked bare foot to John Browns grave in appreciation and Malcolm X said we don’t cotton much to white people in the movement ;but if john brown was alive today we would make an exception in his case! The john brown gun clubs proudly waving their AK-47’s carry on that tradition by protecting BLM marchers today.

    asset (06ee9d)

  33. @27. Not Gramps; big champion and advocate for black athletes- especially in baseball when dealing w/t Pirates; very good friends w/Branch Rickey, too [have some great mementos from him- letters, books and such] Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell, etc. But gramps also liked to tip ‘Redcaps’ and such w/those old Morgan silver dollars. When I discovered he was still doing it in the 1960s, I told him to stop and just use paper money instead.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  34. @27. He’d often take my late Dad to Homestead Greys ball games just to watch Satchel Paige play, too– but yes, the segregation thing was very real back in the day.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  35. A judge on Monday indicated he will dismiss Sarah Palin’s libel case against the New York Times, saying she had not met the legal standard showing that the newspaper acted with “actual malice” in publishing a 2017 editorial that included an inaccurate claim about her.

    Considering that this is a test case for the Supremes to take another look as Sullivan, this is hardly unexpected. I wonder if the jurors will hear this though, and whether it will influence their verdict.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  36. the black community knew they had white allies who protected them as best as they could.

    For the Civil Rights Movement to succeed, it needed to get as many whites as possible on board because until things changed, the whites controlled everything. It didn’t take much to convince blacks they were getting bad deal, it was the whites who had to change their minds.

    Which is what Dr King set out to do. He didn’t make all that many inroads among the older whites, but their children listened and, having nothing invested in the status quo, chose change.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  37. A judge on Monday indicated he will dismiss Sarah Palin’s libel case against the New York Times,

    I expected this, but I never thought he would be so classless as to say it after he sent the case to the jury but before they reached a verdict. He’s Jed Rakoff, the same judge who dismissed Palin’s complaint in the first instance, holding a hearing that was also beyond the pale, and was reversed on appeal. He’s been a Senior Judge (semi-retired) since 2011 which is eleven years too many. He’s not fit to be on the bench.

    nk (1d9030)

  38. The editor added the (wring) point, the original writer did not catch it, or also vaguely thought it was true, the New York Times corrected it within about 12 hours, and it didn’t hurt Sarah Palin’s reputation, nor did it keep this bit of misinformation going.

    Maybe she could ask for a more public confession – actually she got that I guess by filing this lawsuit.

    Sammy Finkelman (46ec7d)

  39. He’s Jed Rakoff,

    Are you sure it isn’t Red Jakoff?

    felipe (484255)

  40. Kevin M (38e250) — 2/14/2022 @ 2:26 pm

    For the Civil Rights Movement to succeed, it needed to get as many whites as possible on board because until things changed, the whites controlled everything. It didn’t take much to convince blacks they were getting bad deal, it was the whites who had to change their minds.

    Now nobody is supposed to like that fact, because it amounts to relying on a “white savior” But no person (usually) can get out of prison on his own.

    Sammy Finkelman (46ec7d)

  41. A conflict of interest, like a congressional investigation into an event that those doing the investigating had involvement.

    Rich (995a5b)

  42. A conflict of interest, like a congressional investigation into an event that those doing the investigating had involvement.

    Rich (995a5b) — 2/14/2022 @ 7:28 pm

    Actually, Jim Jordan isn’t on the committee. But I do agree with you. He was clearly involved.

    Demosthenes (3fd56e)

  43. In a court of law, no. In a court of public opinion, yes, he’s guilty as sin.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 2/14/2022 @ 10:45 am

    To be fair, he’s guilty as sin anyway.

    An Oath Keeper sitting in judgment on a couple of Oath Keepers. Yeah, I’m sure that was all above board.

    Demosthenes (3fd56e)

  44. The initial proposal was an independent commission, not the committee. Da Trumpcakes nixed it. But that’s how they do things. They poop on your doorstep and then complain that you did not hand them the toilet paper.

    nk (1d9030)

  45. Now nobody is supposed to like that fact, because it amounts to relying on a “white savior”

    You could look at it that way, or you could look at what happened — a large number of white folk became convinced that the system was unjust, and were ashamed it was so. It wasn’t white folk who forced this realization, it was black folk (and Dr King in particular) who rubbed their nose in it until they accepted the need to end Jim Crow and open all society to all citizens.

    Kevin M (38e250)

  46. NYTimes says the latest revelations on the Hillary Campaign spying on Trump require too much ‘mental energy’ to process.

    Is that why the msm and Never-Trump blogs are ignoring it?

    https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1493553761565958148?s=21

    Obudman (44ba8e)

  47. #47 Glenn Kessler has a full analysis of the controversy here.
    For example:

    The indictment does not make clear the circumstances of the White House contract, but Durham appears to be claiming the company kept track of the web addresses that Internet users at the White House were visiting. It is unclear whether such monitoring might have been part of the original contract. If so, that’s somewhat like hiring a security guard at the front gate to run a badge-scanning system, and then being shocked the security guard is keeping track of your comings and goings from the office. That’s not really the same as eavesdropping.

    Moreover, contrary to much of the reporting in right-wing media, Durham does not specifically say the alleged monitoring of EOP took place while Trump was president — and the circumstances suggest it took place in 2016.

    Then there is this column, also in the Washington Post, by Philip Bump.

    There are legitimate questions about the effort to link Trump back to Russia using this data that was not only sketchy at the outset, but had also been debunked by the time the election was over. But there is no question that this is not proof that Trump Tower was “wiretapped.” It is not proof that Mark Levin’s claims in early 2017 were accurate, since they weren’t. (He’s tried to take credit for his foresight in recent days.) If it’s evidence of Trump being “spied on,” as the former president has also claimed in recent days, it’s a very broad sort of spying — collecting all of the domain-name lookups from a physical location or a network — being conducted not by the Obama administration or by Hillary Clinton, but by an anti-Trump lawyer.

    By now, of course, Trump and his supporters are like the little boy who cried wolf. They have said so many false things that many are reluctant to spend any time investigating still another wild claim.

    So I give Kessler and Bump credit for doing so, anyway. But I wouldn’t expect either to investigate the next wild claim from Trump, or a Trumpista.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  48. Durham is squirting ink in the water. Here’s the deal:

    (CNN)Special counsel John Durham accused a lawyer for the Democrats of sharing with the CIA in 2017 internet data purported to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex, as part of a broader effort to raise the intelligence community’s suspicions of Donald Trump’s ties to Russia shortly after he took office.

    The accusation — which Durham couched in vague, technical language in a court filing late Friday — has been seized upon by Trump and his supporters, who claim the former President was subjected to a smear campaign.

    Durham says in the filing that Michael Sussmann, the Democratic lawyer, spoke about internet data related to Trump in a meeting with a federal agency, which sources say was the CIA, more than five years ago. Sussmann claimed the information “demonstrated that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations,” according to the filing.

    But that was his assignment: Red herrings and confusion. Or is it gazpacho and borscht?

    nk (1d9030)

  49. Moreover, contrary to much of the reporting in right-wing media, Durham does not specifically say the alleged monitoring of EOP took place while Trump was president — and the circumstances suggest it took place in 2016.

    No, it unquestionably was while Obama was president. And why would the Clinton campaign be doing anything after the election?

    This is typical of the right wing memes – they make a statement that isn’t technically incorrect and cite “proof” that doesn’t prove it, while their commentators amplify it but based on the wrong impression,

    The interesting thing is that the correct claim is also interesting. But it’s just not outrageous enough for them.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/tech-exec-used-access-white-house-computers-look-dirt-trump-says-speci-rcna16123

    And Trump was oot being spied on – there was an attempt to create a basis for a federal investigation so that the Democrats could leak that Trump was under investigation, as they in fact almost did.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/31/harry-reid-just-made-a-huge-incendiary-evidence-free-claim-about-trump-and-russia

    In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.

    Sammy Finkelman (46ec7d)

  50. For gpopd infrrmation on the accusations against Hillary or Biden, read the New York Post. It tilts, but it is careful to limit itself to accurate statements.

    Sammy Finkelman (46ec7d)

  51. Washington Post, October 31, 2016 when Harry Reid wrote a letter complaininga about Comey revealing a resumption of the investigation into Hillary’s emails when emails were discovered to be present on Anthony Weiner’s computer after supposedly she had deleted all email she did not send to the State Department

    But there is no public evidence to support Reid’s claim of actual “coordination” between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. And were that to be the case, it would be a scandal of epic proportions.

    Asked what evidence exists of such a connection, Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson cited classified briefings.

    “There have been classified briefings on this topic,” Jentleson said. “That is all I can say.”
    Asked whether the letter means Comey has shared such information directly with Reid, Jentleson said, “Refer you to the language in the letter.”

    This is the political equivalent of Reid lighting a match, dropping it on a dry ground and walking away.

    Sammy Finkelman (46ec7d)


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