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4/27/2021

James Carville: “Wokeness Is a Problem”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



I don’t normally suggest that you read Vox, but this interview with James Carville is worth your time. A taste:

CARVILLE: You ever get the sense that people in faculty lounges in fancy colleges use a different language than ordinary people? They come up with a word like “Latinx” that no one else uses. Or they use a phrase like “communities of color.” I don’t know anyone who speaks like that. I don’t know anyone who lives in a “community of color.” I know lots of white and Black and brown people and they all live in … neighborhoods.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with these phrases. But this is not how people talk. This is not how voters talk. And doing it anyway is a signal that you’re talking one language and the people you want to vote for you are speaking another language. This stuff is harmless in one sense, but in another sense it’s not.

. . . .

INTERVIEWER: Sounds like you got a problem with “wokeness,” James.

CARVILLE: Wokeness is a problem and everyone knows it. It’s hard to talk to anybody today — and I talk to lots of people in the Democratic Party — who doesn’t say this. But they don’t want to say it out loud.

INTERVIEWER: Why not?

CARVILLE: Because they’ll get clobbered or canceled.

Frankly, the word “wokeness” these days reminds me of the phrase “Believe All Women” — it’s primarily or exclusively used by opponents of the concept.

SIDE OBSERVATION: I don’t mean to derail the discussion here, but during the Kavanaugh hearings the left often used the phrase “Believe Women” which, for many, was functionally no different from telling people to believe all women. Anyone who tried to reconcile the concept that of course you have to apply normal skepticism and evaluate evidence found themselves tongue-tied when confronted with the question: “So what does ‘Believe Women’ mean then?” They would toss out some gobbledygook about women having a “chance” to be heard or something. This attitude was short-handed by opponents of the concept as “Believe All Women.” But then people got it into their head that the left itself had actually used that phrase — Believe All Women — all the time. I fell into that trap myself, until one day I set out to find old examples of the use of the phrase, to refute people who denied that the left used it — and I found they were right. END SIDE OBSERVATION.

The left may have used the term “wokeness” long ago, but today it seems to be almost exclusively used by people like me who think it’s dumb. Kind of like “cancel culture” or “fake news,” it’s a phrase that has become co-opted by the right and does not seem to be used unironically by lefties any more.

Except Carville — who invokes both “wokeness” and being “canceled” because he’s an old-school opponent of both concepts. He’s a lefty but he’s the type of lefty who still remembers what common sense is like.

Unfortunately, his conception of the Democrat party is being left behind. He credits Biden with being beyond all of that — and Biden is certainly less “woke” than many in the Democrat party — but Biden can do racial and wokeness pandering with the best of them. Glenn “Tim Scott’s grandpappy was a privileged rich black dude” Kessler issued his report card on Biden’s misstatements so far, and most of them involve mega-pandering regarding the supposedly horrific Georgia voting law that has inspired so much exaggeration and fake pearl-clutching among the left.

About one-seventh of Biden’s false or misleading claims on the list relate to the Georgia voting law, which Democrats charge is part of a GOP effort to seize on Trump’s bogus claims of election fraud to justify the disenfranchisement of minorities.

Biden’s claim that the measure shortened voting hours drew sharp criticism from Republicans, who accused Democrats of lying about the bill. In reality, Election Day hours were not changed and the opportunities to cast a ballot in early voting were expanded.

Biden aides never provided an explanation for why Biden made this statement — or why it was even repeated in an official statement issued by the White House.

So yeah, Carville gives Biden entirely too much credit. But Biden is still far from Mr. Hyperwoke Dude. Because he’s freaking old. As is Carville.

But that’s the wave of the future. Even as the Republican party fights hard for the title of “The Stupid Party” — with Tucker Carlson encouraging his viewers to call Child Protective Services if they see children wearing masks outside — the Democrat party is hanging in there. The party whose nominees shot up their hands during debates when asked questions that boiled down to “raise your hand if you would like to pander to the illegal immigrant constituency” now has a president whose Homeland Security Secretary insists we won’t even impose a fine on illegal immigrants who deft court orders to stay in the country.

The craziness continues. Making it interesting to read an interview with someone like Carville, who (to some extent) recognizes what he is seeing in his own party, and giving voice to the fact that it worries him.

65 Responses to “James Carville: “Wokeness Is a Problem””

  1. SIDE OBSERVATION: I don’t mean to derail the discussion here, but during the Kavanaugh hearings the left often used the phrase “Believe Women” which, for many, was functionally no different from telling people to believe all women. Anyone who tried to reconcile the concept that of course you have to apply normal skepticism and evaluate evidence found themselves tongue-tied when confronted with the question: “So what does ‘Believe Women’ mean then?” They would toss out some gobbledygook about women having a “chance” to be heard or something. This attitude was short-handed by opponents of the concept as “Believe All Women.” But then people got it into their head that the left itself had actually used that phrase — Believe All Women — all the time. I fell into that trap myself, until one day I set out to find old examples of the use of the phrase, to refute people who denied that the left used it — and I found they were right. END SIDE OBSERVATION.

    I wanted to respond to this part.

    Once upon a time women’s accusations of sexual misconduct was dismissed out of hand. When they did bring up misconduct and say that it was unwelcome details about their appearance at the time, history with the man, or reputation in general would be used to discredit their allegations prior to any formal investigation. Believe all women was shortened for “Believe all women who allege misconduct and treat their allegations seriously as you would any other accusation. Do this even if the accuser is known to have worn tight clothing and had a couple of beers with the accused.”

    Time123 (36651d)

  2. I havent read this site since before Trumps ’16 Win. There was a poster that loved Trump and everyone here would mock him for their allegiance to Cruz back then…Boy did the truth about weak spine Cruz show when Trump put him in his place. Cant remember his handle but anyway…Cant you see that this global deep state They are now working opposition. They are giving Patriots just enough string to pull them in thinking they are going to support our side. 2020 was stolen by a Pedophile along with a cabal of tangled nefarious demons, and not one person is doing anything about it but wearing a mask that restricts breathing and speech…Can you imagine how Barry laughs at all the mask wearing….. IMO its do or die
    Carville is a paid operative…just like all the rest

    JRT67 (a86dff)

  3. Get off twitter
    Get off all social media and Cable tv
    Dont ever vote again as we know now that all seats are stolen
    Get on gab.com for a bit of clarity
    Watch Rumble and Bitchute only for news.

    JRT67 (a86dff)

  4. GET OFF FAKE BOOK TOO

    JRT67 (a86dff)

  5. wanted to add

    both sides have stripped all nuance and context from believe all women.

    Some on the left uses it as club to imply that proper skepticism equates to misogyny.
    Many on the right use a straw man version of it to avoid legitimate conversations.

    I’m hoping that having to bring that reasonable skepticism to the tara ried accusations will restore some common sense on the left.

    Time123 (36651d)

  6. Just to clarify, “believe women” just means believe leftist women when they accuse a conservative and it’s politically helpful. When they target a leftist like the #2 in Virginia or Biden, not so much. Just like BLM is only useful to target cops and conservatives. When it comes to black on black crime, it just doesn’t matter.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  7. I know lots of white and Black and brown people and they all live in … neighborhoods.

    Gotta love how Vox transcribes the Carville interview with the oh-so-woke capitalization of the word “black.” It’s as if they want us to believe that Carville himself placed a special emphasis on that word, such as raising his voice by 10dBs or something. I have a feeling that pretty soon journalistic wokery will demand that “brown” also be capitalized and that “black” be capitalized and placed in bold type: “I know lots of white and Black and Brown people and they all live in … neighborhoods.” And then we’ll get to the point where “black” has to be written in all caps and bolded: “I know lots of white and BLACK and Brown people and they all live in … neighborhoods.” Kind of a reverse bell hooks sort of thing going on.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  8. When they target a leftist like the #2 in Virginia or Biden, not so much.

    This of course reminds me that Democrats in Virginia seem to have been very thorough in burying the Justin Fairfax rape charges (and it truly was rape he was accused of at Duke, not garden-variety “sexual assault”). The statue of limitations on the allegation against him in Massachusetts has expired in the one case, and in the North Carolina case from his college days it would appear that his alleged victim is unwilling to move forward, and whether that is because she has been intimidated by his threat of a defamation suit or because she has entirely concocted the matter may never be known.

    And the Dems in Virginia’s General Assembly appear to have been successful in blocking any legislative investigation into the issue, freeing Mr. Fairfax to run for the governor’s office later this year. I kind of hope he wins; he would serve as a sharp rejoinder to the Believe Women nonsense that Democrats wanted to foist upon us in the Kavanaugh hearings.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  9. Just when I think Carville is reasonable, he spouts off his one-size-fits-all broadside against Republicans. As if Democrats don’t have their own politicians running into trouble. But he is who he is at this point. At least in one sense.

    In another sense, he’s a dinosaur that doesn’t realize the political battlefield is changing. I’m sure there are plenty of young Democrats sighing “OK, boomer” to themselves as they read this article.

    Hoi Polloi (ade50d)

  10. Biden might not be “woke” but the Politburo that gives him his orders IS.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  11. In another sense, he’s a dinosaur that doesn’t realize the political battlefield is changing.

    Reagan set one platform for Republicans and Clinton set the one for Democrats. Trump blew them both up. Trumpism itself won’t survive, nor will the Democrats’ various moral panics. But the old guards (e.g. Carville, Kristol) are increasingly irrelevant. Look to Buttigieg and Haley for the future direction.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  12. Look to Buttigieg and Haley for the future direction.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/27/2021 @ 10:54 am

    Yes, the vanguard of the 1980s and 1990s have been put to pasture. Carville should know better than to think that Democrats just need to fix their messaging and the way they speak. That’s too hard. Instead, they will increase their political power through packing the SCOTUS, admitting more states to the union, and allowing anyone with a pulse to vote.

    Much easier than speaking like normal human beings.

    Hoi Polloi (ade50d)

  13. freeing Mr. Fairfax to run for the governor’s office later this year.

    Bumper sticker I’d like to see: “Vote for the rapist. It’s important.”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  14. Things that won’t happen:

    Packing the Court
    Term limits for the Court
    DC or PR statehood (by themselves)

    However, there are a number of state-splits that are desired in larger states. Upstate NY is tired of being dominated by the residents of Manhattan. Downstate Illinois feels the same about Chicago. Texas and California have multiple sections that feel alienated. Most of Florida would be happy to see Broward, Dade and Palm Beach go.

    There’s room for a deal here.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  15. oh-so-woke capitalization of the word “black.”

    I think I will live to see “Negro” return as the term of choice.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  16. “Believe all women who allege misconduct and treat their allegations seriously as you would any other accusation. Do this even if the accuser is known to have worn tight clothing and had a couple of beers with the accused.”

    Unfortunately, that’s a toxic position against reason and experience and the women who support it are as cowardly, useless, and destructive as all the liberals James Carville claims are complaining to him. As a matter of fact, that poor attitude, slowly codified into law and transferred to other ‘oppressed’ and ‘disadvantaged’ groups, is precisely the reason wokeness has advanced as far as it has.

    I have about as much sympathy for James Carville opposing wokeness past his prime ability to do anything about it as I have for Richard Dawkins getting his Humanist Award revoked because the woke liberals at the American Humanist Association he used as a stick to beat the Christians with suddenly turned on him (because any objective statements about reality, religious or secular, are a threat to a soulless corporate body run by mediocrities who only want to protect their own jobs.)

    Actually, I have even less sympathy for him, he served the Democrat party, he got paid by the Democrat party his whole life, I wouldn’t be shocked at all if this new public stance against wokeness is simply a Bernie Sanders-like ploy to isolate the white rump wing of the Democrat party in an ineffective ideological ghetto that can have all their personal information conveniently catalogued and purged by the party bosses at a time convenient to them.

    Democrats may start expecting forgiveness and absolution when they start openly declaring America a Christian nation based on Christian principles. Or at least declaring that “Trump and Steven Miller were right, we were wrong!.” Signaling against wokeness PAST YOUR ABILITY TO BE CANCELLED is not costly nor indicative of repentance.

    Liquid Kulok (c49396)

  17. Even as the Republican party fights hard for the title of “The Stupid Party” — with Tucker Carlson encouraging his viewers to call Child Protective Services if they see children wearing masks outside — the Democrat party is hanging in there.

    ROFLMAO, the heir to the Swanson frozen TeeVee dinner fortune is merely a talking TeeVee head; not a representative of the “Republican Party.” Neither, for that matter, is Liz Cheney.

    And swampster Snakeman, mated to GOP swamp scum Mary Matalin- [the classic set of sleaze balls who milked both sides for a buck] doesn’t speak for the DNC either.

    Both these major political parties and their so-called operatives are riddled with cowards and impotency. They’ve done more damage to the fabric of the U.S. from within than any external threat could have dreamed. The “stupid” move is to pay any attention to ’em at all.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  18. @16 I… whut?

    The way to move forward as a nation is to extend each other some grace and stop assuming the worst of one another.

    whembly (7baeb9)

  19. Kevin, I’ll bet the upper peninsula of MI, would like to be their own state. At least until they needed to pay for their own government services. Some of the splits you’re talking about would leave poor rural areas stranded from the parts of their current state that generate most of the revenue. Might be a good impact for national politics, but less for schools, roads, and policing.

    https://apps.bea.gov/scb/2019/03-march/0319-county-level-gdp.htm

    Time123 (306531)

  20. No, you gotta do it (reverse it) one work place at a time.

    urbanleftbehind (1e84b1)

  21. Yeah, it’s like reminding downstate IL that only DuPage County, NW and Northern Cook and bits of Lake, Kane and Will Counties are net revenue areas. They’re not a drain in social services per se but in other aspects.

    urbanleftbehind (1e84b1)

  22. Might be a good impact for national politics, but less for schools, roads, and policing.

    Any California rural voter would be giving you a raspberry for this. Schools? All the money goes to Sacramento and is given according to need (as seen by Sacramento), meaning the union-run inner city schools. Roads? Watching them spend $100 billion on a train that goes to nowhere, from nowhere makes them less appreciative of the states use of transportation money. And police are paid for local, and for good reason.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  23. There are states that do well without a Democrat-run cesspool involved.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. More wokeness hitting publishing industry:

    Norton Takes Philip Roth Biography Out of Print

    W.W. Norton said in a memo to its staff on Tuesday that it will permanently take Blake Bailey’s biography of Philip Roth out of print, following allegations that Mr. Bailey sexually assaulted multiple women and behaved inappropriately toward his students when he was an eighth grade English teacher.

    The announcement came after the publisher decided last week that it would stop shipping and promoting the title, which it released earlier in April. It wasn’t immediately clear what would happen with existing copies of the book or the digital and audio versions.
    ………..
    Soon to be a collector’s item.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  25. @Kevin@23 Nope, it’s a mathematical formula. Each districts’ funding is based on a per pupil basis, based on average daily attendance. Title 1 funding is determined by percentage of students on free/reduced lunch (qualify by parents (lack of) income) on a per pupil basis. Basically a poor urban and poor rural district with the same percentage of students on free/reduced lunch get the same funds per student.

    Nic (896fdf)

  26. (sorry, should’ve been @22)

    Nic (896fdf)

  27. News from the future:

    The Louve today withdrew the “Mona Lisa” painting from public view amid allegations that Leonardo da Vinci did not treat women as equals. This follows the widespread closeting of paintings and other art by one Pablo Picasso, after documents surfaced alleging that he was a serial womanizer and misogynist.

    Debate is still underway in the physics world over whether to discard “Feynman diagrams”, if not all of quantum electrodynamics, as the work of a sexual predator who boasted of his prowess at picking up women for one-night stands.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  28. @Kevin@23 Nope, it’s a mathematical formula.

    There are always supplemental funds from state and federal programs

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  29. Soon to be a collector’s item.

    That depends on whether or not Amazon and ABEboooks (owned by Amazon) and eBay will allow it to be sold.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  30. @29-

    That’s why it will be a collector’s item.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  31. In any event, CA school funding is set by the state at a certain level and local districts cannot add funds, resources or even volunteers to provide a better education for their kids. If Fresno wants to spend more, it can’t. In Los Angeles the situation is so bad that nearly all parents who can (of all races) send their kids to private schools. The public schools are heavily Hispanic as a result. Even people living in “good” school districts see their tax dollars going elsewhere.

    And, of course, quite a bit of the school budgets are spent well before they get to the classroom by huge bureaucracies at the state and local levels.

    And we haven’t even gotten to the curriculum, set by the state, which wears poorly in many places.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  32. Wokeness is part of a bigger problem: Too many people who overestimate the importance of their contribution to the reproductive cycle of the mosquito, the only contribution they will ever make to the World.

    nk (1d9030)

  33. Wokeness is a problem so immense and threatening that the only solution is government censorship, apparently:

    Idaho moves to ban critical race theory instruction in all public schools, including universities

    Dave (1bb933)

  34. NY Post Reporter Resigns, Says She Was ‘Ordered to Write’ False Kamala Harris Story

    A New York Post reporter who wrote a since-retracted article about migrant children getting a copy of Vice President Kamala Harris’ book as part of “welcome kits” said she resigned on Tuesday after she was “ordered to write” the story.

    “Today I handed in my resignation to my editors at the New York Post,” reporter Laura Italiano tweeted. “The Kamala Harris story — an incorrect story I was ordered to write and which I failed to push back hard enough against — was my breaking point.”

    A spokesperson for the Post, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The story originally was published last Friday, promoted on the Post’s Saturday front page and amplified by Fox News and prominent Republicans like RNC chair Ronna McDaniel and Sen. Tom Cotton. But according to fact-checking from other outlets, including The Washington Post, Harris’ book, “Superheroes Are Everywhere” has not been handed out to children as part of “welcome kits” at a shelter in Long Beach, California. One single copy of the book was donated during a donation drive, Long Beach officials told The Washington Post.

    Dave (1bb933)

  35. @kevin@31 This is also not correct. Cities can add funds. Davis unified frex pays for all kinds of stuff with a local tax. local bond measures happen all the time. Lots of districts get grants for stuff. There are a lot of local non-profits that fund local things. Anyone can volunteer as long as they can clear fingerprints.

    It is true that the education system is too top-heavy.We currently have twice the number of assistant superintendents than we did when I first started in my district 15ish yrs ago.

    Do I really need to talk about the curriculum again? The school board chooses the curriculum.

    Nic (896fdf)

  36. My biggest problem with critical race theory, Mr. Dave, is the part that implies that it’s a bad thing. They should not teach that. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny as they say in your country, or Nous sommes nos ancêtres as they say in Quebec.

    nk (1d9030)

  37. Wokeness is a problem so immense and threatening that the only solution is government censorship, apparently:

    Well, that CNN article to which you linked is certainly representative of Acceptable Progressive Thought (TM) on the matter. It goes to show just how mindlessly one-sided CNN has become. For example:

    1. The defenders of CRT in this article are an out-of-state professor (California, naturally) who is apparently highly-attuned to the specter of White Supremacy, the head of the state’s NEA affiliated teachers union, and a Democrat state senator who appears to have worked professionally in the edublob before embarking upon legislative service. Was it impossible for CNN to find just one Idaho mom or dad to interview who supported this curriculum?

    2. The California ethnic studies curriculum is referred to in a way designed to lead the casual reader to believe that it is benign and broadly supported. No mention is made of the fact that the first draft of the curriculum was so openly radical and divisive that even Governor Hair-Gel (D – French Laundry) was forced to veto attempts to mandate it for high school students as a warning to the CRT cabal to dial it back a notch.

    3. Naturally, to the CNN crew it is Republicans who are “weaponizing” CRT by objecting to it being centered within the public school curriculum, rather than Democrats who are weaponizing it by crudely shoveling it into callow minds through a grossly politicized presentation designed to indoctrinate rather than to educate.

    The question of how much the state ought to be meddling in curricular issues is a legitimate one. Whether Boise ought to be prohibiting CRT is every bit as valid a question as is whether Sacramento should be requiring ethnic students for graduation. This gets us back to the question of why the state takes such a prominent role in public education, and should those issues perhaps be better left to individual school districts, even if the money does flow, regrettably, through the statehouse.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  38. Wokeness is a problem so immense and threatening that the only solution is government censorship, apparently:
    Idaho moves to ban critical race theory instruction in all public schools, including universities
    Dave (1bb933) — 4/27/2021 @ 5:04 pm

    That’s not censorship.

    Hoi Polloi (b28058)

  39. This is also not correct. Cities can add funds. Davis unified frex pays for all kinds of stuff with a local tax. local bond measures happen all the time. Lots of districts get grants for stuff. There are a lot of local non-profits that fund local things. Anyone can volunteer as long as they can clear fingerprints.

    Then the implementation of Serrano has changed, because a while back they would not let “rich” cities add funds to local schools, or let volunteers “enrich” classes. Any added funds went to the state and were distributed “equally.”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  40. My biggest problem with critical race theory, Mr. Dave, is the part that implies that it’s a bad thing

    They should only be able to teach critical race theory to you if your grandfather was taught critical race theory.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  41. The question of how much the state ought to be meddling in curricular issues is a legitimate one. Whether Boise ought to be prohibiting CRT is every bit as valid a question as is whether Sacramento should be requiring ethnic students for graduation.

    Seems pretty simple to me – he who pays the piper, names the tune. Sometimes the piper will include lots of tunes liberals love, like classes that teach liberal beliefs and ethics. Other times, the piper will not.

    If liberals don’t like the latter, then they can’t be proponents of the former.

    Even centrist Democrats know CRT is a bridge too far. People should keep pushing back on it – Democrats as a whole will not die on the CRT hill.

    Hoi Polloi (b28058)

  42. They should only be able to teach critical race theory to you if your grandfather was taught critical race theory.

    He was. So was my father. So was I. The first question you ask about a person is “What family is he from?” Or is that something else?

    nk (1d9030)

  43. OT: would love for the lawyers here to analyze and opine on two legal matters dealing with national security:

    1. the USPS surveillance program; and
    2. the news that the FBI is running criminal cases against FISA 702 data

    I’m honestly thinking the government – no matter who runs it, no matter who is in the White House – does what it wants at this point. Laws and rules don’t seem to matter to those that are supposed to enforce the rules. That’s kinda problematic.

    Hoi Polloi (b28058)

  44. @27. Well, that’s a drag 😉

    Mona Lisa self-portrait | ITALY Magazine

    http://www.italymagazine.com/…/mona-lisa-self-portrait

    Mona Lisa self-portrait. The Mona Lisa is a disguised self-portrait of Leonardo da Vinci, a new book claims. American scholar Lillian Schwartz says in the book, Leonardo’s Hidden Face, that computer studies of Leonardo’s self-portrait “superimpose perfectly” with that of his most famous subject. Schwartz first gained headlines with her claim in 1987.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  45. As you may know, I disapprove of trophy hunting. But lately I was wondering whether “Kill what you eat, eat what you kill” is really helping gun rights with the younger generation. Particularly the urban younger generation. What do you guys think?

    nk (1d9030)

  46. Particularly the urban younger generation. What do you guys think?

    Is this about cannibalism?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  47. 😉

    nk (1d9030)

  48. Must be a Tuscany thing, DCSCA…you know who else has roots in that part of the boot (surprised he wasnt descended from southern Italians)?

    urbanleftbehind (1e84b1)

  49. @kevin@39 Findlaw tells me that Serrano was really only fully in effect for 2 years, from 1971-1973 and was continually eroded through the 70s and 80s.

    @nk@45 Trophy hunting isn’t really a political/legal argument IMO, it’s an ethical one. I think you should be allowed to do it in limited circumstances as long at the wild population of the animal is at a sustainable level and is sustained or in a growth pattern. However, I am also likely to think a person who does it is gross.

    Nic (896fdf)

  50. Get on gab.com for a bit of clarity

    If gab.com is not a government operation established by the security services to identify enemies of the state, I will be very disappointed in the government.

    nk (1d9030)

  51. I remember Santa Monica increasing their property tax to 1.25%, as allowed, “to fund the public schools” and being told they could not. One parent who had a teaching credential offered to assist in classes and was told she could not.

    Perhaps things have changed, but perceptions have not. Between Serrano and cross-town busing, the middle-classes fled the schools and have not returned. Probably as well, since if they did return there would be no room for them.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  52. @50: What makes you think Facebook and Twitter are any different? They could fund the entire CIA at the same time.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  53. As far as political throwbacks are concerned, if Congress were to reintroduce the single-house legislative veto of regulations, I’ll betcha the SC would rule differently this time.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  54. Manpower. Or, rather, dearth thereof. The fearsome and feared Gestapo received tips from every good German but could only follow up on about 9% of them. Gab preselects the likely suspects who bear watching itself.

    nk (1d9030)

  55. “Kill what you eat, eat what you kill”

    Separate the Wokes from the Whites and make a super fluffy, souffleed omelette. 😉

    “Madam, there’s no such thing as a tough child — if you parboil them first for seven hours, they always come out tender. They are also very good with mustard.” – WC Fields

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  56. They’d do better setting up a double-secret hideout on the Dark Web where Nazis and Klansmen would feel safe using the ultrasecure Tor* browser

    ————
    * a trademark of NSA Holdings.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  57. Wokness like political correctness is an attempt by white liberals to be passive aggressive. Cheering on antifa and black lives matter from the side lines of social media or the stage at the oscars.

    asset (cb40ba)

  58. Carville gets it.
    He may have been one of the most partisan Dem operators in DC, but he’s a politically moderate Third Way guy from the Bill Clinton orbit. It probably helps that he has a Republican (or ex-Republican) wife to talk some sense into him.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  59. @58.Carville gets it.

    “An antique.” – Charles Foster Kane [Orson Welles] ‘Citizen Kane’ 1941

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  60. That is true, Mr. Montagu…a repeat observation I see in my admittedly “blacker/browner” Facebook feed (as a result of my elementary and high school student populations) is one friend saying OK Boomer about a shared Carville article, but no sooner than the 1st or 2nd reply says “hes right, though” or “I kind of agree with him”

    urbanleftbehind (27f84e)

  61. In any event, CA school funding is set by the state at a certain level and local districts cannot add funds, resources or even volunteers to provide a better education for their kids.

    Untrue. A lot of districts in wealthy areas have foundations that support extra curricular activities.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  62. Dave @34-

    I’m sure we’ll hear crickets from the Cruz, Cotton, et. al. in response to that story.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  63. We can only do what we can do. People always say to me, “Why don’t Democrats just lie like Republicans?” Because if they did, our voters wouldn’t stand for it.”

    I can’t believe so many conservatives are passing around this thinly-veiled hit piece on the GOP disguised as anti-woke.

    Obudman (2e23b8)

  64. RIP Gemini 10 and Apollo 11 astronaut Michael Collins (90).

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  65. Sorry to threadjack, but the federal search warrant on Rudy is a big deal. Like with Cohen, I’m guessing little of Giuliani’s work is under attorney-client privilege.

    Paul Montagu (26e0d1)


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