Super Tuesday Takes
[guest post by Dana]
Without comment:
Voting for Sanders today:
1. Socialist true believers.
2. Leftist fellow travelers.
3. Kids who don’t know better.
4. Hugh Hewitt.
Voting for Biden:
1. Liberals defending liberal democracy.
2. Moderates defending liberal democracy.
3. Conservatives defending liberal democracy.— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) March 3, 2020
FiveThirtyEight weighs in:
Biden is now about twice as likely as Sanders to win a plurality of pledged delegates, according to our primary model, which gives him a 65 percent chance of doing so compared with a 34 percent chance for Sanders. This represents the culmination of a trend that has been underway in the model for about a week; it started to shift toward Biden once polls showed the potential for him to win big in South Carolina — and it anticipated a polling bounce in the Super Tuesday states if he did win big there. Still, even after South Carolina, Biden’s plurality chances had risen only to 32 percent, compared with 64 percent for Sanders. That means the polling bounce from the events of the past few days has been bigger than the model anticipated.
To be clear, however, there is still a lot of uncertainty. We’ve been talking about delegate pluralities, which obscures the fact that the most likely outcome in the model is still that no one wins a majority of pledged delegates. And we should note that the lack of a majority does not necessarily imply a contested convention. For instance, if Biden enters the convention with 46 percent of delegates and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg with 10 percent, they could strike a deal where Bloomberg delegates vote for Biden on the first ballot.
Michael Bloomberg goes after Joe Biden:
Mike Bloomberg started the most important day of his 2020 campaign scolding a sea of reporters about rival Joe Biden’s momentum and refusing to drop out of the Democratic primary.
“Joe’s taking votes away from me,” Bloomberg said at his campaign’s Little Havana field office when asked by a reporter about moderates dropping out to support Biden in the last 24 hours.
“Have you asked Joe whether he’s going to drop out?” Bloomberg then challenged. “When you ask him that then you can call me.”
When a reporter asked a follow up, Bloomberg scolded that it was the same question that had just been asked.
“I have no intention of dropping out,” Bloomberg said. “We’re in it to win it.”
Early post-mortem for Elizabeth Warren’s campaign (which, of course, includes putting the blame on sexist double standards and media bias):
In interviews with Democratic strategists, top progressive activists, allies and critics, nearly everyone agrees that Warren’s campaign faltered not through scandal or dysfunction, but because of a series of miscalculations and circumstances that conspired against her. She positioned herself just off Bernie’s right shoulder, which both failed to win his hardcore progressive base and alienated moderates who think she’s too far left. Her campaign hit a series of speedbumps in the last months of 2019 and early 2020 that slowed her down just as her opponents were taking off, and failed to correct course quickly enough to regain momentum. Her online defenders are quick to point out sexist double standards between the candidates, and the stench of bias that pervades some media coverage, but the fact remains: heading into Super Tuesday, Warren has not won a single state.
PS:
Warren’s campaign aides have publicly suggested their most viable path to the nomination is by prevailing in a contested Democratic convention, which would be a historical rarity if it happens.
And from Joe Biden’s rapid response team to James Comey: Uh, no thanks:
Yes, customer service? I just received a package that I very much did not order. How can I return it, free of charge? https://t.co/NK4VrYGzT1
— Andrew Bates (@AndrewBatesNC) March 3, 2020
Let us know how things are looking in your districts.
–Dana
[UDPATE by JVW] – I apologize profusely for infringing upon Dana’s post, but My Little Aloha Sweetie just aimed the ihe ‘ō ‘ia nalohia pua right into Fauxcahontas’s spleen, so this must be one of the happiest days of my life.
.@DanaPerino I'm not quite sure why you're telling FOX viewers that Elizabeth Warren is the last female candidate in the Dem primary. Is it because you believe a fake indigenous woman of color is "real" and the real indigenous woman of color in this race is fake? pic.twitter.com/VKCxy2JzFe
— Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) March 3, 2020
– JVW
On the left coast here, and it’s nothing but a sea of blue expected to win. I’m watching local issues carefully, though, because that’s where common sense stands a chance.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:16 amI will make a bold prediction. Bloomberg will get 3% of the popular vote and 0 delegates today.
What? It’s better odds than MegaMillions.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:59 amMemo to Bill Kristol:
Voting for Sanders today:
1. Middle class true believers.
2. Left behind Americans.
3. Not kids, young adults who do know better than you.
4. Hugh Hewitt, Nixon apologist.
Voting for Biden:
1. Idiots.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:03 pm2. More idiots.
3. Incredibly ignorant idiots.
@2. “In it to win it”– that’s the NY Lottery catch phrase; it rolls off his tongue like a commercial. Wonder if he prefers the quick-pick over scratch-offs?!
In for a penny, in for half-a-billion…
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:06 pmI’d bet on the high side, ~7%, similar to Warren, and still get zero delegates. Bernie will pull 40%, biden 25-30%, what with all the early voting and the rest will fill out the rest. Ongoing, I’d be the counts will reverse, neither gets to the magic number, but Biden wins in the contested democratic convention, mainly because Sanders isn’t even a democrat. Biden will pick a strong VP, and he’s intentionally a one termer, but by choice not voters. Then in 2024, we get some sane republican, ahem, Nicky Haley, vs Mayor Pete or Amy K.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:21 pmIn Oklahoma, I expect a win for Biden (a reasonably solid one, given his performance on Saturday), with Sanders in second. I also expect at least one of Bloomberg and Warren to take delegates. For the Republicans, I expect Trump will win in a landslide. And for the Libertarians, in their first year holding a presidential primary here, I expect a strong first place finish for No One, since nobody bothered to file.
Demosthenes (c2da5e) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:22 pmI wouldn’t say that Bloomberg was going after Biden, he was giving a terse, impatient answer to a reporter who was asking about Bloomberg taking votes from Biden, and he replied that Biden was taking votes from him.
Paul Montagu (cbbfc4) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:23 pmBloomberg should stay in the race because who knows what the health of Biden and Sanders will be during an intense campaign over the coming months. And with all the money he’s spending, he’s got to be raising our GDP by a little bit.
District 12 is 100% behind President Snow. All we want is the continued peace and prosperity that will inevitably result from another term of his rule. May the odds be ever in his favor.
Mockingjay (c2da5e) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:29 pmPlease don’t insult DRJ.
Make America Ordered Again (c1ef7d) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:32 pmUnlike Biden, Bloomberg is no fool. He has invested half a billion dollars and isn’t about to walk away because Biden won just one primary- his famed ‘firewall’– ad his first in three presidential runs over nearly 40 years- and only w/Clyburn’s endorsement, who then immediately bayonetted him by saying his campaign needs “retooled,” just 3 days before Super Tuesday.
The Nixon adage holds– if you see an effort to stop X—- bet on X.
“That’s quite a stab, from old flab.” – Chester Babcock [Bob Hope] ‘The Road To Hong Kong’ 1962
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:34 pmhttps://www.politico.com/story/2011/08/sources-biden-likened-tea-partiers-to-terrorists-060421
Joe Biden the conciliator.
NJRob (dd759b) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:35 pm@9.On the contrary– her strategy is to be respected. It’s equally as wise as mine.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:35 pmhttps://pjmedia.com/election/biden-chooses-beto-take-your-ar-15-orourke-to-take-care-of-the-gun-problem-with-me/
Joe Biden the constitutionalist.
P.S. I have another comment in moderation as it seems this site no longer likes the “terorism” (sic) word and it gets moderated.
NJRob (dd759b) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:40 pmHmm even misspellings get moderated.
NJRob (dd759b) — 3/3/2020 @ 12:40 pmIn my part of Virginia, turnout was very light, but the ballot choices included everyone who had filed before the deadliine. As a result, I had the opportunity to vote for Michael Bennett.
John B Boddie (286277) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:02 pmPut my ballot in the box and quietly said MAGA, the officer that sits next to the box looks up and smiles. Then says “I Love it”.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:20 pmThe CNN exit polls supporting a ‘Medicare For All’ are quite high– particularly in Maine.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:22 pm@14. Vas der officer wearing brown or gray, today? No clicked heels und a right armed salute, eh.
Too ostentatious. No führer comment necessary. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:26 pmJust got back from my polling place. It’s the first time I voted at a polling place in probably twenty years. I have been receiving a mail-in ballot, and for the past ten years or so I have marked it and then actually walked it in to the polling location on election day just in the spirit of participating in a traditional community endeavor.
But this year I received a No Party Preference ballot, so I needed to exchange it for a Democrat ballot at the polling location (in hip, progressive Twenty-first Century Los Angeles they are now officially known as “voting centers”). Lord Almighty, I just remembered why I don’t vote in person. I stood in about a twenty minute line in order to check in and exchange my ballot, with my fellow voters conducting all kinds of transactions from first-time registration to exchanging spoiled ballots to asking for help with Los Angeles County’s (or is it the state’s) new voting app. in any case, they did get me a Democrat ballot and then I stood in another ten minute line for access to the voting machines.
LA County has new touch-screen voting machines which mark a paper ballot for submission as a back-up. The technology is actually pretty snazzy. When you check-in you get a blank ballot — no names, no offices, nothing on it except for a Los Angeles County watermark. You insert it into a printer hooked up to a touch-screen machine which you use to select your choices. When done, you review your choices on-screen and then confirm them, at which point your ballot is officially printed. The ballot then is shown to you so that you can confirm that your proper choices are also reflected there, and then for a second time you confirm and the ballot disappears into a storage box and the electronic vote is submitted. But naturally, LA County being LA County, two of the five machines at my voting center had already failed and were out of service, which contributed to the backlog for voters.
But in the end, I was at long last able to vote for My Little Aloha Sweetie, so my duty to the Democrat Party is now complete. But I fear that voting in Los Angeles County this coming November is going to be a nightmare, so I look forward to going back to marking a mail-in ballot.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:41 pmThese mounting exit polls are fascinating to any poly-sci nerd. It’s really quite revealing about the mindset of the general electorate and the disconnect from the powers that be running these ever-shrinking major parties.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:42 pmIn my part of Virginia, turnout was very light, but the ballot choices included everyone who had filed before the deadliine.
I didn’t scan through all of the names, but I think Los Angeles County ballot had every single Democrat who was in the race as of last Labor Day. I saw a lot of names of people I had long forgotten about.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:43 pm@17. Just wondering, JVW,– did you observe any masks, gloves or Purell on hand given the ‘bug’ situation?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:47 pmI’m willing to bet that Senator Stalin emerges from today having won more delegates and a larger share of the popular vote than Slow Joe. In fact, I’ll go out on a limb and bet that all this talk of Joementum and Biden’s Big Comeback will be forgotten by tomorrow and we’ll be looking at the strong possibility that the Vermont Marxist makes it to Milwaukee with at least 45% of the necessary delegates needed to clinch the nomination.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:49 pm@17. Just wondering, JVW,– did you observe any masks, gloves or Purell on hand given the ‘bug’ situation?
The check-in desk had some sanitized wipes available, but other than that no masks or gloves in sight.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:51 pm@21. The Nixon adage holds– if you see an effort to stop X—- bet on X.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:51 pmMe too.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:51 pmMeanwhile, Biden taps Beto to “take care of the gun problem with me.” That sounds like he’s on board with Beto’s campaign stand to tale all the guns.
https://pjmedia.com/election/biden-chooses-beto-take-your-ar-15-orourke-to-take-care-of-the-gun-problem-with-me/
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:52 pmBill Kristol wouldn’t recognize liberal democracy if it hit him. I know that because it DID HIT HIM, in 2016, and he didn’t recognize it.
Populism is not the opposite of Democracy. It is its last gasp when all else has failed.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 2:54 pm[UDPATE by JVW] – I apologize profusely for infringing upon Dana’s post, but My Little Aloha Sweetie just aimed the ihe ‘ō ‘ia nalohia pua right into Fauxcahontas’s spleen, so this must be one of the happiest days of my life.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:02 pm@21. Meh. “Biden’s Big Comeback”—
A lone presidential primary win –one– in three presidential runs over nearly 40 years, and only w/t help of a critical endorser who then tells the winner his campaign needs ‘retooled’ literally 72 hours before Super Tuesday. Then gets ‘endorsed’ by several quitters and a forgotten loser who, a week ago, were wholly opposed to the same guy they just endorsed.
“I love the smell of napalm in the morning… The smell, you know that gasoline smell?… Smelled like… victory.” – Lt. Col. Kilgore [Robert Duvall] ‘Apocalypse Now’ 1978
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:05 pmWow! According to this from fivethirtyeight, Sanders leads Biden in fifty-two of California’s fifty-five Congressional districts in recent polling, with the two being tied in the remaining three.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:27 pmPrayers to those suffering, recovering and rebuilding in Nashville. In the electoral realm, which candidate might this help:
http://www.yahoo.com/news/tennessee-dems-sue-extend-poll-222144155.html
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:38 pm@29. MSNBC is reporting from East LA now– lots of Sanders support; long lines, long waits–voting a few voting machines down.
The sort of snafu stuff on display to the world that makes Putin grin.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:54 pm@30.Yes. Terrible. Quakes you can prep and deal with but middle-of-the-night tornadoes are terrifying. One of the reasons we left Ohio.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 3:58 pmPolls have just closed in Virginia. CBS News projects that Biden wins (which means gets more votes than any other individual candidate)
Of course they knew it all along – they based this on exit polls. I don’t think there was even enough time to verify that the exit polls in some precincts accurately reflected what votes were cast there.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:04 pmJVW, I would consider you less than loyal to your Little Aloha Sweetie if you *didn’t* update us with her well-aimed fire. But again, why does she have to hold such convoluted and troubling views/policies because I really wanted to like her…
Dana (d0c8a1) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:06 pmProjected victories: Bernie takes Vermont; black vote tips Virginia to Biden.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:06 pmIN Texas they allocate delegates at large and by State Senate district; in all the other states at large and by Congressional district.
Each separate unit (the whole state and the districts) has its own separate 15% threshold.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:13 pmI din’ wanna say nuffin’, but why is the woman of three-fourths European descent playing the skin-tone card when the reality is that she is only nominally a candidate, with support well below accepted scientific margin of error?
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:13 pmNow two presidential primary wins in 40 years!
Attaboy, Plagiarist JoeyBee!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:21 pmWhen did you join the cool kids and leave the GOP, JVW?
Dave (2ed56d) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:22 pmTennessee is a beautiful state and I visited Nashville last April, but those vicious storms are why I hesitate to move there.
NJRob (dd759b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:26 pmStill in moderation. Terror. Ism.
NJRob (dd759b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:26 pmJVW, pardon his skepticism, nk is afraid of the liquor wearing off and waking up next to Tammy Duckworth.
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:27 pm“ The message is clear: establishment Democrats are still buying the “Biden electability” argument, despite his increasingly erratic and mistake-prone behavior on the campaign trail. That they’re willing to throw in with a candidate who can’t go an hour without making an incredibly stupid mistake rather than rally behind Bernie indicates that they think socialism is a losing issue.
At least it is if the candidate admits that he’s a socialist. Biden, of course, will be promoting the stealthier socialism that the Democratic party prefers in order to stay on brand.
At the rate Biden has been declining, the Democrats’ best hope may be to just have him stand in the background at campaign events, drooling on a bib and smiling that “Mommy that man scares me!” smile of his while his former rivals speak for him.“
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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/the-morning-briefing-dems-circle-the-wagons-for-crazy-joe-the-wonder-veep/
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:27 pm_
JVW, I would consider you less than loyal to your Little Aloha Sweetie if you *didn’t* update us with her well-aimed fire. But again, why does she have to hold such convoluted and troubling views/policies because I really wanted to like her…
It’s going to make it all the more fun when she and I star together in a sitcom on the CW about an intense type-A woman with staunch left-wing opinions and her lazy layabout right-wing boyfriend.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:30 pmWhen did you join the cool kids and leave the GOP, JVW?
About the same time our host did; when DJT clinched the GOP nomination last year. I wouldn’t belong to a political party that would have me as a member.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:31 pmSo will you be auditioning for the part of her grumpy father, or her even grumpier grandfather?
🙂
Dave (2ed56d) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:38 pmNC black vote makes three primary wins in 40 years, JoeyBee!
Unfortunately, ‘as of July 2016, White Americans are the racial majority. [Like in Iowa… and New Hampshire…] African Americans are the largest racial minority, comprising an estimated 12.7% of the population. Hispanic and Latino Americans are the largest ethnic minority, comprising an estimated 17.8% of the population. [They went for Bernie in Nevada.] The White, non-Hispanic or Latino population make up 61.3% of the nation’s total, with the total White population (including White Hispanics and Latinos) being 76.9%.[Bad news, JoeyBee]’ -source, wikirace
W/o the black vote, Biden remains a loser.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:38 pmI take it back. The race card is the trump card to play with the moron media.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:40 pm@43. The irony is he has already demonstrated he’s not electable as president on his own – twice.
People vote the top of the ticket. They voted for Obama– not Biden.
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$500 million payoffs off!!! Bloomberg wins American Samoa! Trounces Tulsi.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:43 pmSo will you be auditioning for the part of her grumpy father, or her even grumpier grandfather?
Damn, you spoiled my punchline.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:45 pmBut again, why does she have to hold such convoluted and troubling views/policies because I really wanted to like her…
Let me introduce you to my little Indian sweetie, Nikki Haley. You’ll like her views somewhat better.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:51 pmDemocrats in CA are ruing their early votes for people not still in the race. Totally unexpected that something might change in 3 or 4 weeks!
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:53 pmFor what it’s worth, all of the media — who are totally in the pocket to deny Bernie the nomination and anoint Joe Biden the winner like they did with Hillary four years ago* — are reporting that the youth vote did not turn-out in particularly impressive numbers today. This would naturally hurt the campaign of Green Mountain Gramsci, who depends heavily upon the man-bun and tattoo crowd for his base of support.
(* since I’m a Democrat for the day it is only right that I engage in far-left conspiracy theories)
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:54 pmThey voted for Obama– not Biden.
Biden was viewed as stability, experience and gravitas, which Obama laced in 2008.
No, really.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:54 pmI assume you meant man-bun. As in neck-beard.
[Yeah, and I used my magic admin powers to make the correction. Thanks for pointing it out. – JVW]
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:55 pmLet me introduce you to my little Indian sweetie, Nikki Haley.
The Punjabi Palmetto Powerhouse.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 4:58 pmNope. Carolina Chic Sikh.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:03 pmHa ha! It looks like black voters in Virginia may have cast more votes for Mayor-Stop-and-Frisk than they did for the Fake Indian. I love it.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:05 pmNope. Carolina Chic Sikh.
Much better, thanks.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:07 pm‘Bama goes to JoyBee. Four in 40 years!
Exit polls show 72% of blacks in AL went for Biden.
He can’t win w/o ’em.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:13 pm@54. Nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket, Kevin.
Exhibit A: Dan Quayle.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:14 pm@58. Warren is struggling for a win in home state MA. Her collapse since summer is a poly-sci research paper in the making.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:16 pmIt’s just that calling a Sikh a Punjabi is like calling an Ulster Catholic a Protestant.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:22 pmDCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:16 pm
No, she’s not. She’s a clear third, at about 22%.
CBS rates it a toss up between Bernie and Biden, with each getting just about one third of the vote.
That accounts for about 90% of the vote.
Maine is also something of a tossup between Biden and Bernie. Bernie Sanders won Vermont.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:24 pm@64. Sammy, it’s her HOME state.
Third might as well be 350th.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:26 pmBesides Virginia – by a HUGE margin – and North Carolina, Biden, so far today, also came out on top in Alabama.
I think Biden and Bernie are both relatively weak candidates.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:26 pm@51. Let me introduce you to my little Indian sweetie, Nikki Haley. You’ll like her views somewhat better.
Her tailfeathers are on fire and it may be too late for her to hit the silk. She’s becoming part of the management problem at Boeing.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:31 pmBless his heart, Sammy is simply incapable of overstatement.
😀
Dave (2ed56d) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:32 pm@60 A significant percent of the Democratiic party is black. If we look at the math, about 40% of voters are going to vote R basically no matter what. Almost all of them are white. That leave the Dems trying to access the other 60% of all voters. Most of them are not white. No Dem can win a diverse state without the black vote.
Nic (896fdf) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:33 pmSikhs can fight, though, google Sikh Wedding Fight and you wont be disappointed!
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:33 pm60. DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:13 pm
Please stop exaggerating. 32 years. And he actually quit in 1987, before the primaries.
Of course, 1980 would have been the first presidential election year in which then Senator Biden was old enough
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:35 pm@71. Here’s the deal,” Sammy: “exaggeration” is Plagiarist JoeyBee 101.
Did he share prison food with Mandela, too? 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:38 pmNow that’s 2 Karens that will be in the Squad’s Senatorial primary crosshairs in 2024.
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:40 pm@69. Yep. The numbers only confirm demographic difference between Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and Virginia, Alabama and North Carolina.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:42 pmMini Mike fittingly wins American Samoa, though Little Aloha Sweetie gets one delegate out of six.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:43 pmBill Kristol sure does have the pulse of America – from DC all the way to Manhattan. If i thought bill had a sense of humor, I’d write the tweet off as satire.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:43 pm@56
Indeedeo… Haley’s running next.
whembly (c30c83) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:45 pmBiden creaming everyone in the South, just like we knew he would after SC. How well he does in California, Texas, and Florida will be more interesting.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:45 pmMatt Lewis is voting for Joe Biden. Its the conservative thing to do. LOL!
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:46 pmLooking at all the Bloomberg votes. Judas Priest, people are stupid. Of course, they are Democrats.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:47 pmHey I saw some good TV commercials. Guess I’ll vote for him.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:47 pmWait, with 99% of the vote in Dinosaur Joe has absolutely poleaxed Comrade Candidate, 54% to 23%. I know that Virginia has a reasonably high black population and is home to a lot of lobbyist and bureaucrat types who rely upon crony capitalism to make their living, but that is way more of a margin than I would have expected. I guess all of my predictions this time around truly are destined to be wrong. Lieawatha is barely holding off Mayor Napoleon.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:48 pmMaybe she wont need to even campaign…go thaw that gallon of ice cream, DC:
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/485562-cnns-begala-trump-will-dump-pence-for-haley-on-day-of-democratic-nominees
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:49 pmYou remember 4 years ago Donald Trump won the Republican primary, and then won the election? There is a lot of stupid to go around.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:50 pmIf Biden is leading in October, and given how and with which bloc he started his comeback, does Dear Leader start mumbling something that rhymes with Caca and does a surprise Stephen Miller firing?
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:52 pm72.
I don;t think that plagiarism is exactly the right word for this. If he used my explanation for why he said in South Carolina that he was running for the Senate that </? might be considered plagiarism, except that it's probably mostly true. And anyway I waive all rights for that.
. He maybe can explain away the South African arrest in 1977 as being steered into the white line by South African immigration authorities. But the statement about South Africa that he can’t explain is the one about Nelson Mandela hugging him because he remembered that he supposedly had tried to see him.
And what will Trump do with Biden’s tale of the cancelled Ukrainian press conference (January 23, 2018 speech before the Council on Foreign Relations) and the flabbergasted U.S Ambassador to Ukraine? (2016 Atlantic Magazine web site) when he single handedly cut off the loan guarantees because they weren’t fast enough about firing the Prosecutor General? (of course the idea that it was to stop an investigation that would impact his son was helpfully added by Putin’s agents.)
Botch it up probably, and need to be saved by the media.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:52 pmDemocrats like dark horses. Obama, Clinton, Carter. I honestly thought that a governor would be their front runner
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:52 pmMSNBC showing 3 hour wait to vote in Austin, TX.
And Putin smiled…
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:52 pmMs. Gabbard has a delegate! Woo hoo!
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:55 pmSo far, so good for Biden. As of now, he’s winning in ME, holding up in MA, keeping it close in TX, and he’s going to get a handful of delegates in VT. This is a surprise.
@87.If the elite powers that be in the party manipulate it the way they want it to go- against Bernie– w/Biden, Trump will call them out on it repeatedly and JoeyBee will end up like McCain– a loser.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:56 pmdoes Dear Leader start mumbling something that rhymes with Caca
Malaka?
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:57 pm@89. The exit polls are telling–he can’t win any place w/o black support.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:58 pmMousaka?
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 5:59 pmMajor Garrett on CBS says Bloomberg’s strategy doesn’t make any sense. His goal is to get delegates to pick him on a later ballot. But they have to like him to do that. He’s attacking – that is not going to get people to like him.
And in his ads his big argument is the electability argument (actually it’s also the competence argument and maybe the more toward the center argument, which is also an electability argument.)
But Joe Biden is winning the electability argument..
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:01 pmnk @87:
What Governor? There weren’t any in the race. There were mayors.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:04 pmI think you hurt Gov. Bullock’s feelings.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:06 pmSame number of syllables, only a difference of one consonant letter.
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:06 pmOr Inslee’s but I wonder if he’ll fall victim in the electoral sense to the Modelo thingy this fall.
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:07 pmSo far, Ms. Warren isn’t viable in the state of her birth. She should abort her campaign.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:08 pmBullock, Hickenlooper, and Inslee did dip their toes, but dropped out early, Sammy. I honestly thought there would be one, if not one of them, with enough organization, money, and support to stay the course.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:09 pmsupport = votes
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:11 pmHa, ha, ha! Here are the American Samoa caucus results:
So what’s 175/$500,000,000?
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:21 pmLink: https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/election-results/american-samoa-democratic-caucuses-live-results/
I really don’t like the pitiful little jerk.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:23 pmAlthough the polls closed at 7 pm (Central Time) in Texas, there are peole still voting in places because they were on line at 7 pm.
Late deciders are breaking strongly for Biden – there’s a big difference between those who decided (or voted) early and now. People in Texas could cast votes even before February began!
With delegates CBS would so far give have to Joe Biden and half to Bernie sanders, Bloomberg is on the cusp of getting 15%
Biden is strong among African Americans; Sanders among Hispanics, particularly young Hispanics. There is no nostalgia for Obama with them – they feel they were abandoned by the Democrats on immigration.
Some Sanders people in Texas were uncertain/worried about the effect of the endorsements last night by Buttigieg snd Klobuchar. There’s no poll that took account of that.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:24 pmOh, Bullock, yes.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:25 pmNBC is projecting (so far) 130 delegates for Biden and 62 for Sanders, with 4 for Bloomberg, and I think a higher number for some others. I’m not sure if that is just for races called tonight. Chuck Todd said it is really turning into a 2-man race.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:33 pmBiden needed Bloomberg to be weak in states where he was strong, like in the southeast, and he was; and he needed Bloomberg to be somewhat stronger in states where Sanders was stronger )like Colorado) and he was.
Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:42 pmSwamp Creature Clyburn: “Joe Biden… he’s a good guy.”
No. He’s not.
His record is precisely what spawned Trump.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:42 pmThis is unbelievable. Swamp Creature Clyburn is on MSNBC all but claiming it is he who saved Biden’s bacon. He is crippling the guy more and more with every self-aggrandizing word he says.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:47 pmnk, where are your manners?
It’s not polite to do math in front of Trump supporters.
Dave (b1bec7) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:47 pmHis record is precisely what spawned Trump.
Golly, but genetics is funny.
I thought it was his Scots mommy and German daddy, along with steeping in the sew that is Nuevo Ork “business”…
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/3/2020 @ 6:51 pmCBS gave cunulative delegate totals at this point (with partial results today)
Biden: 283
Sanders – 166
Buttigieg – 26
Warren – 12
Klobuchar – 7
Bloomberg – 4
Gabbard – 1
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:21 pmSo far, Bloomberg is only viable in AR, TX, TN, CO and American Samoa. As Charles Barkley would say, that’s trbl.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:25 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL7QzIb7cRg
Comfortably Smug
@ComfortablySmug
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It is pretty crazy that the Russian hackers spent like $100,000 to steal the election from Hillary but Bloomberg spent 500 million and couldn’t even win a primary
Almost as if the Russia thing was a bunch of bulls**t.
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$500 milly to pick up Samoa…….
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Derek Thompson
@DKThomp
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ABC: Joe Biden is on pace to win Minnesota despite **no staff on the ground** while Sanders had staff and several events while Bloomberg spend $13 million on ads in the state.
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Seth Mandel
@SethAMandel
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Bernie paraded Ilhan Omar around the state and Biden didn’t even look at it. If Biden wins Minnesota this is going to be especially sweet.
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Dave Wasserman
@Redistrict
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Projection: Joe Biden wins the Massachusetts primary. Elizabeth Warren in serious danger of finishing third.
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neontaster
@neontaster
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It’s amazing how hard the media gaslighted everyone about her chances.
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BT
@back_ttys
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Those of us comparing Warren to Kasich are selling Kasich short. He was at least able to win his home state.
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Stephen Miller
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:26 pm@redsteeze
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Becoming President just wasn’t in Elizabeth Warren’s DNA.
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A couple of “Let Dairy Die” whack jobs tried to storm the stage while Biden was talking. They’re probably Bernie Sisters.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:29 pmBerne Sanders spoke in Vermont. He sounded optimistic – pointing to wins, but Chuck Todd on NBC thought he was subdued – this was not the night he expected. Biden will speak soon in California (before the polls close?)
People at the beginning of the hour were still voting in Harris County Texas – long lines. A CBS reporter talked to 3 women who were going to vote for Klobuchar but voted for Biden.
Biden spent all of $6,000 in Minnesota but may win the state. Some kind of Klobuchar ads (endorsing Biden?) were running in Minnesota today. Votes are coming in from the Twin Cities and splitting about evenly between Biden and Sanders. That is a good sign for Biden since that is a more liberal area. Same thing for Boston, in Massachusetts.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:30 pmTrump is right; the fix is in. Amy quits 24 hours ago– Biden carries Minnesota?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:30 pm“Folks! Here’s the deal:” no matter what point of the compass you come from, Joe Biden is a very, very bad man from a very, very small state:
Joe Biden: 20 Things You Probably Didn’t Know
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/joe-biden-twenty-things-you-probably-didnt-know
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:33 pmBloomberg as in Palm Beach Florida tonight. I am not sure if his little speech was televised.
Note: He’s promised to keep every important person on his staff employed until November – for the Dem candidate even if it not himself.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:34 pm@121. It was; saw it.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:35 pmThere are around 1300 delegates at stake today, so those results are barely 1/3 of the total.
California alone is awarding 415 pledged delegates.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:37 pmZOMG…!!!
This DCSCA heretic is citing to National Review…!!! MUST be a @nevertrumper!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:39 pm@124. Even they speak your language– and a broken clock can be ‘right’ twice a day.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:41 pmThat gives you some hope.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:48 pmThough I see you’re on military time…
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:49 pmOff topic: It’s raining in New York. It’s been raining a lot – more than every third day. Hasn’t snowed much. As of February 28 there had been 8 days in which at some point the temperature was below freezing. Normal was 28 days.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:51 pmBloomberg will stay in so Mini Mike News can keep pounding Trump and lay off the Dems.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:53 pmThe lines are unbelievably long in CA…
…and Putin smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:54 pmBloomberg was questioned by an ABC reporter earlier today. He said he wasn’t quitting the race. He didn;t expect to win many states, but he did expect to pick up delegates. But he didn’t very many.
Actually he might do better in states after today. He now has a showing – it isn’t less than 9% or 7% anywhere and many states were affected by early voting.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:55 pm@129. At this point, w/half a billion spent, what’s anotter quarter billion ’til Milwaukee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:55 pmIt seems at this point the two hot questions that are going to decide the night are 1) who is going to win and by what margin in Texas and 2) how large will Sanders’ margin in California be. It seems as though Senator Stalin could still easily finish with the larger number of delegates.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:56 pmsneaky smeekyRose
@sneakysmeeky
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“The super PAC that poured millions of dollars in ad buys to back Warren in Super Tuesday states, has now confirmed it will not be spending on any of the contests taking place on March 10.”
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What’s the over/under on Warren smoking the pipe of peace? Noon tomorrow?
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Jim Antle
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:57 pm@jimantle
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Team Biden now includes Samantha Power and Susan Rice as well as James Comey and John Brennan. Hoo boy.
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Bloomberg was always going to keep offices open in battleground states. As for ads, it depends on their contents, and a candidate on;y needs to run enough to get into the game.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/3/2020 @ 7:58 pmNBC projects Plagiarist JoeyBee wins MA– w/o investing a dime or opening any office there., stiffing home state Warren and neighboring senator Sanders.
Trump is right: the fix is in.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:00 pmSince the two of you are more than friends, maybe you could explain to us JVW: why is Little Aloha Socialist still in the race?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:01 pmSince the two of you are more than friends, maybe you could explain to us JVW: why is Little Aloha Socialist still in the race?
For a big spending leftie it seems that she did a pretty good job stretching out her money, unlike the Kamala Harrises and Robbie O’Rourkes of the race. Of course it helps when you aren’t always flying to CNN studios for debates which you have been invited to.
I imagine she will close up shop after this. I just wanted to see her bust Elizabeth Warren one in the mouth before she called it a day.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:05 pmShe is a professional politician and at present between jobs. She needs her campaign to feed her and clothe her.
Just kidding, as I hope you were. Nobody knows why a woman does anything.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:07 pmMore left-wing woes: Cuellar of TX wins primary against phat AOC and Cal Cunningham wins NC Senate D primary (Tillis).
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:09 pmMini Mike should have let her win Samoa. For his own sake. As a $500 million “victory”, it’s a humiliation.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:10 pmFun fact: Joe Biden has now won more than FOUR times as many presidential primaries as perennial loser Nelson Rockefeller!
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:17 pm@142. Not a surprise; Nelson Rockefeller dead; but he didn’t die happy w/’Happy’ 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:20 pm“ In the end, The New York Times’ dual Democratic presidential endorsements—bestowed upon both Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.)—were like the points on Whose Line Is It Anyway?: They just didn’t matter.
Nor did the media’s fawning over South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, early flirtation with Beto O’Rourke, and absolute worship of Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.) resonate with the millions of Americans living outside the Acela corridor….
……Indeed, the media stumped for Warren so hard that Vox’s Matt Yglesias recently had to write a post explaining to people why she was losing “even if all your friends love her.” By your friends, he meant friends of people like you, a reader of Vox. Yglesias famously described Vox’s audience as “a graduate of or student at a selective college (which also describes the staff and our social peers)” and lamented that “if you assigned me the job of serving a less-educated audience [I’d] probably need to think about how to change things up.” He’s right; outside the Vox bubble, there was little interest in the kind of cultural progressivism represented by Warren.
At present, Biden and Sanders are locked in a battle for delegates. Both men have a good shot at the nomination. But this was true a year ago as well. They were both better-known and better-liked than many in the media seemed to grasp, and an endless series of magazine covers, fluff pieces, and editorial board endorsements aimed at other candidates couldn’t make any difference whatsoever.“
Democratic Primary Voters Decisively Rejected the Media’s Favorite Candidates
https://reason.com/2020/03/03/democratic-primary-super-tuesday-warren-biden-sanders/
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:21 pm__
Tonight is gold-plated gold for Trump.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:22 pmLet’s see if Sessions beats the football coach. They’re neck and neck, but it’s early.
Well, no, actually, it’s not early, it’s 11:25. It’s Alabama. They count slow.
nk (1d9030) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:26 pmVisibly shaken JoeyBee tonight at LA event…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2csljajLcU
Yeah. ‘We’re okay. We’re okay…’
… and Putin smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:26 pmThis is a great moment for all people of all ideologies, all races and ethnic groups, all religions, all regions of our great nation, and — what the hell — all of the various genders to unite as one and have a long, loud, and hearty laugh at the New York Times editorial board’s dual endorsement of Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:31 pmNeither will clear 50%, so a runoff between Secessions and Tommy on the 31st.
urbanleftbehind (842c5b) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:31 pm@146. LOL only so many fingers and toes.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:31 pmBloomberg 2nd in Cali (8% reporting).
He’s holding a respectable 3rd with close to 20% of the vote in Texas too, if third place can be considered respectable.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:31 pm#120
You could say the same about your man Sanders. Would that be plagiarism if I did that that?
Appalled (a3d9ee) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:33 pmBloomberg is currently leading in Marin and Napa counties – go figure.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:33 pm@148. ROFLMAO. Yes, so much for the power of endosements. Oh. Wait. Clyburn… if Biden actually getsthe nom and dfeats Trump, he could America’s next head butler sent to the Court of St. James.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:33 pm@152. Not ‘my man.’
My vote went to Trump and all Dems down ballot. Do try to keep up.
But if Plagiarist JoeyBee is your boy, embrace the swamp creature.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:36 pm@153 Mariam Williamson will be disappointed. That’s her country.
Nic (896fdf) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:02 pmSo the Dems rejected two billionaires, and Biden has less money than Sanders, yet Biden has just nosed ahead in TX and ME. Huh.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:08 pmWith 20% reporting, at the Upshot, aka Election Needle Thingy, the current forecast for CA delegates is:
Sanders 195
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:15 pmBiden 137
Bloomberg 52
Warren 31
Well, this is interesting. At the California Secretary of State site, just under four percent of the vote has been reported. And though it is pretty strong on the Democrat side for the elderly commie, the “No” vote on Prop 13 is at 57.5%. Perhaps this silly measure might die an ignoble death even in the shadow of a big Sanders win.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:18 pmState-wide the three socialists are only pulling about 40% of the vote combined.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:22 pm(I don’t Warren is really a socialist, but she is a big-spending, big-taxing statist)
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:24 pmThe Upshot’s current projection for the total delegate counts after Super Tuesday (including previous contests):
Biden 648 (43%)
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:32 pmSanders 578 (39%)
Bloomberg 130 (9%)
Warren 104 (7%)
Buttigieg 26 (2%)
Klobuchar 7 (0%)
I want to joke about Biden having the edge on Sanders now, but my heart’s not in it. Dude is such a weirdo. Yeah I know Trump is also a weirdo. Both aren’t Sanders, which I guess is enough these days.
Good grief.
Dustin (33f5ee) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:41 pmShut up, Bryan!
@SchottHappens
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Breaking news: Young people still do not vote
In the NBC News exit polling, only 13 percent of voters today were between 18-29 #utpol
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:45 pm__ _
So now what if it is in fact Joe Biden who arrives in Milwaukee with a plurality — but not a majority — of delegates? Does Bernard Sanders still believe that the candidate with the most delegates ought to be the one who wins the nomination, or does he make a push to supplant Biden as the party’s nominee?
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:46 pmEighteen and a half percent of the California vote counted and Prop 13 is still holding at 59% for “No.” I fear that Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Oakland are still yet to be counted, but I am at least optimistic at this result.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:49 pm“ Dude is such a weirdo.”
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Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
We regret to inform you that Joe was back at it again today
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1235018888146022402?s=20
harkin (b64479) — 3/3/2020 @ 9:50 pm_
JVW,
It’s going down in my area 66% to 33%. LA and San Fran will screw that up and it will pass. Calidiots.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:00 pm“ Dude is such a weirdo.”
Dems: Whew, thank God we’ve managed to knock Bernie off the top of our ticket. What a disaster that would have been!
Also Dems: Oh, shit: we’re going to have Joe Biden at the top of our ticket!
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:01 pmAlso, the NYT should be eating humble pie and its readers heartily mocking them. But we know neither group has enough self-awareness to do that.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:03 pmThirty-five percent reported and “No” on 13 is still holding at 57.7%. Don’t give up hope.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:03 pmWhat’s funny is that Warren is only viable in MA, MN and ME, yet she’s throwing money away, running all these commercials on cable news tonite. Her quitting tomorrow would be too late.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:05 pmThis thing coalesced quickly. Bloomberg should see the writing on the wall and endorse Biden.
165.So now what if it is in fact Joe Biden who arrives in Milwaukee with a plurality — but not a majority — of delegates? Does Bernard Sanders still believe that the candidate with the most delegates ought to be the one who wins the nomination, or does he make a push to supplant Biden as the party’s nominee?
Make book that Biden will arrive in Pittsburgh; his luggage will arrive in Milwaukee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:16 pm@172. Trump is right; the party fix is in. These twits who ranfor a year or more then suddenly quitting literally hours before the primaries, showing up to “endorse” when a week ago they were wholly opposed to the dude. The voters who sent money and volunteered to work their campaigns got shafted.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:19 pmWarren has lost any leverage or influence by waiting so long to pull out of the race.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:22 pm@171 I am not particularly fond of bonds for stuff that should be in the budget.
Nic (896fdf) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:23 pm@171 I am not particularly fond of bonds for stuff that should be in the budget.
Especially in an era when we’re running multi-billion dollar surpluses. It’s absolute fiscal irresponsibility.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:28 pmCurrent projection is that Biden will be ahead by 72 delegates going into next week:
Michigan (125)
Washington (89)
Missouri (68)
Mississippi (36)
Idaho (20)
Biden needs 54% of the remaining delegates for a majority.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:29 pmSanders needs 57%.
But Dana’s probably right: it will be a “No” vote holding at a solid 57% with about 70% of the vote counted, then the big city vote from the Bay Area and Los Angeles will come in at 2:1 or even 5:2 in favor and the “Yes” vote will end up squeaking by with 51%.
Although there is some speculation that key left-wing groups are worried that if Prop 13 passes then the split-roll tax idea on the November ballot will fail because voters will believe that they have already done their part to fund the schools. But I think we’re dumb enough to keep taxing ourselves until the last successful Californian (or their money) leaves the state.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:33 pmNah. I don’t believe that for a minute. The billionaires who had the resources to do any fixing are on the outs.
Paul Montagu (ac6302) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:34 pmTonite’s Super Tuesday was historic. In just a few short hours, the whole game has changed. It coalesced quickly, really quickly. Biden won MA, he’s pulling away in TX and it looks like he’ll win in Maine of all places.
This is now a two-man race between 77-year old Biden and 78-year old Sanders.
Lizzie was viable in only three states tonite. Her calling it quits right now would be none too soon.
Bloomberg was viable in only five states. If the NY billionaire is honest about wanting to beat Trump, he’ll quit his campaign tomorrow and endorse Biden, which is too bad because I think Bloomberg has a better shot at beating Trump, but he has no path.
Sanders and Bloomberg have been in a widely reported pissing contest over their coronary arteries.
But has Sanders called out Biden for being addled yet?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:51 pm@180. Sure it is; the coordinated quitting; the faux endorsing; the timing. Last week al lthose dropouts were wholly opposed to the dude they endorse.
The powers that be made a decision. Hell, if Clyburn is that all powerful, to crutch-in a hobbled old swamp creature, he outta be in the Vatican, not a Congressman from South Carolina.
See #147 and checkout the video of a spooked Biden tonight in LA– you’d think he lost his TV remote in the sofa cushions as he prattled on with vaporous platitudes when he got surprised. Some people age better than others; he isn’t doing that well; he’s too damned old to be CIC in the 21st century.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:53 pmFor goodnss sake, Biden won MA without spending a dime or even opening an office there and beat out the home senator and the neighboring senator. eins Minnesota and Amy quit less than 48 hours ago?
The fix is in. And whether it’s a perception or a reality, it’s certain Trump will surely play it out that way.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:57 pmNBC News has called Texas for Biden.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:57 pmOkay, then give me names. Tell me who they are and what exactly they’re doing to “fix” this thing.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/3/2020 @ 10:58 pmCA results:
https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:00 pmFun fact: Hubert Humphrey won zero primaries in 1968 yet was the nominee.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:02 pmI’ll take a loyal simpleton over a corrupt traitor.
But if the Kremlin-approved Agent Orange is your boy, go ahead and kiss Putin’s asset.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:04 pm@187. And served zero terms as president; but was pleased as punch over it.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:09 pm@188. Joe Biden: 20 Things You Probably Didn’t Know
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/joe-biden-twenty-things-you-probably-didnt-know
Read’em. And weep.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:11 pm@185. Start w/Virginia’s TM or any of the ‘superdelegate’ chatter. It’ll all come out one day. But tere are no coincidences; those candidates– who worked like hell, betrayed their supporters, their $ donors and all quit within hours of each other. That was no accident.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:14 pmWell hang on now, I’m digging deep into the numbers here regarding Prop 13. The Secretary of State’s tabulations say that 100% of the LA County vote is already in and reported, and that it is pretty much a 50/50 split between yes and no. That’s a great sign. San Francisco is nearly at 100% reported, and though it is almost a 3:1 ratio for “Yes” that’s not enough to move the needle. BUT — naturally Alameda County (Oakland) hasn’t yet reported any numbers so they will no doubt magically find the 600,000 vote margin to swing it over to an overall “yes” vote.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:19 pmJust going around the country shouting, ‘Here’s the deal, folks! This is the United States of America and we gotta take our country back!” — and depending on the black vote is not a vision for Amerca’s future.
If he gets the nom, Trump is going to cream him. Hell, he already beat impeachment.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:20 pm@192. I just voted ‘no’ on all the CA props.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:21 pmHey there Buzz Lightyear – posting links to the same article multiple times in the same thread is spam.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:29 pmIs it possible you’re losing your mental faculties and forgot that you already made an identical post less than 100 comments before?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:32 pm@195. More like stereo. Lawyers like duplicates. 😉
But read’em all the same. Nobody has really gone after his actual record yet– certainly ‘principled’ conservative won’t go for him. And it’s clear he’s no friend of the famed ‘middle class’ he supposedl champions- and he voted wrong on the war[s].
Trump will have a field day w/him.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:34 pmWow, Prop 13 is failing in every single California county with the exception of San Francisco (as mentioned above, a 3:1 ratio in favor of “yes”), Los Angeles (50.2% yes), Alpine (57.3% yes), Marin (55.1% yes), San Mateo (51.7% yes), and Santa Cruz (50.5% yes). Maybe there is finally emerging a statewide consensus that throwing tax money at problems won’t necessarily fix them.
And seriously, we have to kick San Francisco out of this state. This is the city that gave us Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsom, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, and Kamala Harris. Let’s sell them to Oregon.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:35 pm@196. If so, I could run for CIC– it is a qualifier these days. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:36 pmBiden already survived a months-long smear campaign about Ukraine, smeary enough to impeach a president, yet here he is with the most delegates, and it’s not like Trump has any coherent message or mission his own self.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:37 pmI’m thinking maybe all the recent talk of a possible economic and public health crisis made some people more reluctant to commit to a long-term obligation like this.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:43 pm@200. No he hasn’t. It just cooled because he looked like he was going to fame out. Now it’ll heat up again. His answer[s] always hove around ‘we did nothing illegal’- but the stench of impropriety is all over it an Hunter an so forth. That’s pure swamp creature at work and exactly what led to Trump surfacing in the first place.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:45 pmRunning around the country shouting “Fake news! Make America great again!” – and depending on the low-information vote is not a vision for America’s future?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:48 pmA bond issue for the local schools here in Saddleback Valley is going down 63/37.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:55 pmNah, because there’s no evidence against either Biden, especially in light of Trump’s ongoing emitting impropriety stenches since he went down the golden escalator. Biden is either brave enough or senile enough to bark back at the carnival barker.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:13 am@205. “Evidence” is irrelevant; appearance is everything.
This is an image over substance electorate.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:31 amTulsi gets a delegate maybe back on debate stage.
corona virus (74f395) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:37 am@203. Running around the country shouting “Fake news! Make America great again!” – and depending on the low-information vote is not a vision for America’s future?
ROFLMAO! Low info voters?!?! Hmmmmmm… seem TO recall another “Republican” who played them with the same line:
“This country needs a new administration with a renewed dedication to the dream of America, an administration that will give that dream new life, and make America great again,” – Ronald Reagan said in a Labor Day speech in 1980.
[Reagan] also used the line in his convention address that year. “For those who’ve abandoned hope. We’ll restore hope, and we’ll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again,” said Reagan.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:40 amGee, seems Trump is plagiarist, too?!!!
It’s very in vogue these days. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:42 amLook at the results in Colorado
Bernie Sanders—238,345
mg (8cbc69) — 3/4/2020 @ 4:07 amMike Bloomberg—146,907
Joe Biden—147,562
Total for the three front runners: 532,814
Donald Trump—569,441
This is a state that was blue. Trump beat all three dems combined. In a primary uncontested. Turnout for Trump across the board was big.
Looking at CA congressional races, the GOP stands to pick up 3-4 seats, including Katie Hill’s. It’s possible they might pick up more in O.C. with a big turnout.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:09 amNow will someone listen? Early voting is stupid.
Under California’s new election protocols, as many as 40 percent of California voters voted early, either by mail or at voting centers, for Tuesday’s primary. And what about those who cast ballots for Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, or Tom Steyer, all of whom announced in recent days that they were dropping out? Their votes simply won’t count. As the Los Angeles Times reported on Sunday, almost half of the 20 Democrats whose names appear on the California primary ballot have pulled out of the race.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/2020-presidential-campaign-proves-early-voting-terrible-idea/
Read the whole thing.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:13 amBernie won in Utah.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:34 amMany of the media are reporting that one or another candidate “won” a particular state. But my understanding is that in the primaries, the delegates are handed out more or less proportionately (unlike the Electoral College, where it is winner-take-all.) So a candidate that, say, comes in second, may still garner a significant number of delegates.
So what is most significant is how many delegates each candidate won in each state, and the total.
Bored Lawyer (56c962) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:42 amDirect democracy (voter initiatives) is for the Swiss, not Californians. Acai smoothie bowls are for Californians.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:43 amYes, I know, Bored. Biden’s projected to be ahead in total delegate count by less than 100; however, with momentum and the Party elites squarely behind him.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:46 ammg, nice sleigh of hand…4th place Warren got 120,000 K, but yes, split any of the top 3 by 50/50 for sour grapes (Bernie), black Redpill (Biden) or never-Trumps become Reluc-Trump (Bloomberg), and CO becomes very gettable for Trump. Julia aka Liz Warren is the bloc that doesnt stray.
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:47 amNo way in Hell Trump wins Colorado.
I lived there for four years until recently. It has become very Californiaized, largely by people from California moving up there so they could smoke teh weed.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:50 amColorado is lost for the foreseeable future.
https://laist.com/2020/03/03/why-california-takes-so-long-to-count-votes-after-elections.php
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:55 amTo be fair, he was running against a Sheriff…and a Wall –
http://www.yahoo.com/news/grandson-former-president-george-h-072250822.html
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:00 amSo far, Biden looks to be ahead by nearly a million votes over Bernie Sanders from Super Tuesday primaries. It may be a little closer when California is finished tallying their votes.
The total delegate score from yesterday’s primaries should be about even because of Bernie’s California early vote advantages. What a shocker.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:22 amWow, Trump ripped Jeff Sessions apart, ate the pieces, excreted it, dried it, set it on fire, and glassed the ashes in a radioactive heap at the explosion center of an unapproved nuclear test:
Sessions will lose the run-off.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:37 amJVW @198:
The whole point of a bond issue is that it’s NOT tax money (although if things go on long enough it may become tax money and gradually squeeze the government’s ability to do anything necessary.)
Now the problem with a bond issue is that because it is not tax money, nobody cares how much anything costs . Any money saved can’t be used for anything else, so there’s no point in economizing (and little supervision too – nobody has a motive) and nobody even much cares if anything even gets done.
Example: high speed rail.
People have a motive to spend bond money if they can get some of it one way or another, but nobody has a motive to accomplish anything. In fact, completing a job undercuts the case for even more bond money to be devoted to the project(s) in question.
The goal is to spend the most amount of money for the minimum amount of good that will not prevent more of the bond money from being spent on an over budget project, or (possibly) more bonds from being issued in the future.
It’s sometimes hard to get bond issues approved, so they try to make the bond authorizations as big as possible and include as many good sounding ideas as they can.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:41 amOutside of his home state of Vermont, Bernie did not get above 36% of the vote. Biden did better than that in seven states with a high of 63% in Alabama.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:45 amBiden promised cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s cures in his Super Tuesday speech.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:48 amThis is what happens to someone who loyally gets appointed Attorney General of the United States & then doesn’t have the wisdom or courage to stare down & end the phony Russia Witch Hunt. Recuses himself on FIRST DAY in office, and the Mueller Scam begins!
What a weasel pizzle…!!!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:48 amI don’t feel sorry for Sessions. I hold him fully responsible for being the frog who ferried the orange scorpion across the Ohio River four years ago.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:50 amAbsolutely, Sessions sucks.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:50 amBiden promised cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s cures in his Super Tuesday speech.
That would be as bad as Duh Donald promising the boobs all the boob bait at his snake-oil extravaganzas.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:51 amAnd just try to tell Trumpkins that it was Trump who refused to allow Sessions to fire Rosenstein and appoint a DAG loyal to Trump, who was not going to appoint a special counsel when Sessions recused himself. Go ahead and try, I double dare you.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:55 amI understand the thug in the Oval Office taking time out to screw over Sessions.
It’s who that thug is, and he could never comprehend someone having respect for the law and personal integrity.
Besides, he doesn’t have enough to do.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:56 amOnce in a great while you see a perfect storm in politics. Biden winning South Carolina Saturday. Steyer, Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropping out on Sunday. The endorsements on Monday. Three days of gale-force winds.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 6:57 amI’m just pointing out that Biden needs an Alzheimer’s cure, pronto.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:19 amThe best the Democratic Party has to save the country from Communism is senility?
Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate the effort.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:22 amBreaking: Michael Bloomberg has dropped out.
he says he believes in data and there is no viable path for him to get the nomination.
The highest he got (based on incomplete results published in the New York Post) was 21.7% in Colorado, and the lowest he got was 8.3% in Minnesota. He came in second in California at 18.6% to 28.4% for Bernie and 18.0% for Biden. (when 30% of the precinct were reporting, not sure if this includes late mail in votes) He was also second in Utah.
Biden’s highest percentage was in Alabama at 62.9% and his lowest in Utah at 16.4%.
Bernie Sanders’ highest was in Vermont at 50.7% and his next highest in Colorado at 35.9% and his lowest in Alabama at 16.6%, next lowest in Arkansas at 22.4% and third lowest in Virginia at 23.1%
Warren’s highest was 17.1% in Colorado and her lowest 5.3% in Alabama, next lowest 10.0% in Arkansas and 10.4% in Tennessee.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:32 amBloomberg endorsed Biden, which was obvious.
I wonder what Warren will do. She’s an opportunist and I could see her endorsing Biden too.
Hopefully this means Tulsi gets on the debate stage, cleans Biden’s clock, and crowns herself Empress.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:37 amTulsi? WTFrack is up with her?
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:39 amBloomberg is out.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:39 amYeah, Julia (EW) will fall in line…they talk a big game by the water cooler, but they dont want the rabble screwing up their sinecure.
Now its Tulsi Time!
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:40 amWarren will leave now that she stayed one state too long. 3rd in Massachusetts has to hurt. Bad.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:40 amI know, right? She’s maybe a five face-wise with a body made for radio. Lot of lonely old guys here, I think.
(I’d be expelled from Harvard for that, BTW.)
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:41 amThat was for noel’s “Tulsi? WTFrack is up with her?”
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:42 amIt was the endorsement that did it for Biden. Where Patterico goes, so goes the country.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:44 amTo get nk’s skepticism, its only because IL got stuck with post-midnight and post-beer goggles Tulsi as its junior senator.
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:46 amAmastris
@AmastrisDratwka
……if you want to see the locations of the absolutely nutso Liberals in the state of California, look to these maps:
Prop#13
https://twitter.com/AmastrisDratwka/status/1235180159407251459?s=20
harkin (b64479) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:48 am_
Undeniably so.
A supreme court nomination seems like an appropriate gesture of gratitude.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:51 amWarren’s job now may be to stay in and suppress Bernie.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:52 amBecause only a “nutso liberal” would vote to maintain and improve school buildings?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:54 amI have always thought Tulsi was aiming for an independent general election candidacy. But she must be careful or she could split the Russian vote with Donald.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:09 amShe’s Pete Buttigieg with the correct chromosomes, but the same conceit and hubris.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:14 amPete could outdebate the current President in at least seven languages.
noel (4d3313) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:23 amHere’s a phrase I never would have expected: Lunging vegans.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:30 amI love how Jill Biden reacted.
It’s *Doctor* Jill Biden to you.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:38 amNow that’s a woman to ride the river with. Melania would have protected her hair and makeup.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:44 amNo pay wall, nice stills. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/jill-bidens-epic-tussle-in-split-second-blocking-maneuver-she-protects-husband-from-lunging-vegans/ar-BB10Jr7e
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:47 am248. Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:54 am
It’s correlated with liberalism, but you can say only a “nutso liberal” would trust the proponents of a bond issue. Or think it’s enough for someone to give money if the person asking for it says the money is for a good cause. Such a person tends not to have any skepticism about many things “educated” people say.
A really stupid idea is that students learn better in buildings kept in better condition, supposedly proven by studies. Anyone with common sense knows there’s a hidden variable there, or that only a few things (like heat and cold) matter. ad everything cited for improvement, like earthquake and fire protection, is just an excuse to spend money, even if something truly is important to do.
And they think everything has a fixed price, like in a grocery store, because the proponents talk that way, or that markets are efficient when the government is spending the money.
They ought to require the advocates to show why the money would actually accomplish its purpose. Not this business about the money is for this purpose or for that purpose, with no detailed mathematics and with no accounting nor anything put in place to control it. (maybe there are things, but they are known not to work) You might make a guess, but they don’t get a basis for doing that.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:48 amElizabeth Warren has cancelled all appearance, returned home to Boston, and is meeting with her advisers. This almost always ends only one way.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:49 amI know, right? She’s maybe a five face-wise with a body made for radio. Lot of lonely old guys here, I think.
Pistols at dawn, nk. I’ll ask Dana to be my second.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:06 amSo has Trump given the Secret Service orders to let Biden fend for himself?
It’s within his unlimited Article II powers to do whatever he wants, and there’s no law against it, amirite Trumpkins?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:07 am142. Dave (1bb933) — 3/3/2020 @ 8:17 pm
There weren;t so many primaries then.
On the other hand Nelson Rockefeller, before this year’s Super Tuesday, probably actually ran in more of them than Joe Biden did. They didn’t drop out in those days.
Biden ran in no states in 1988, and how many primaries or caucuses in 2008?
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:08 amI don’t think Biden has Secret Service protection as a former VP and he isn’t eligible as a candidate.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:16 amTrump had 24×7 Secret Service protection starting in October 2015.
Thanks Obama.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:30 amFormer veeps can have Secret Service protection up to six months after they’re out of offic. Homeland can extend it, but for some reason, they didn’t do so with Biden. Further:
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:33 am“for some reason”
Hmmm.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:36 amI disagree, nk. Don’t be fooled: Melania has the look of a cunning woman who doesn’t just wear stilettos, but also carries a stiletto too.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:37 amDave,
From the Secret Service website:
Biden may have declined it.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:41 amPistols at dawn, nk.
Fight for the lady’s honor, eh, JVW? That’s probably more than she ever did. I decline.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:42 amSo you think she would have pushed her
husbandtestator *toward* the attackers?🙂
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:44 amI defer to you, Dana. Moreover, I have misjudged the First Lady before. She is the only one in that messed-up family who has risen to the dignity of her position.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:08 amJoe B’s old enough and dumb enough to hire Rosie Grier for one of the gigs.
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:29 am@211. Duncan Hunter’s empty seat will go blue.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:42 amHe should have Secret Service protection now.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:45 am@271, I guess if it is swarthy versus Swarthy, go SWARTHY
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:02 am@273. Issa is retread; his chances dim.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:05 amCandidate Donald Trump asked for early Secret Service protection because of his large crowds. Obama and Ben Carson also got early protection as candidates. No reasons were given but I think threats resulting from their race may have played a role.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:21 am200. Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/3/2020 @ 11:37 pm
That wasn’t quite what happened.
For the most part Republican did not repeat the charges that Donald Trump made in his July 25, 2019 phone call with Ukraianian president Volodymyr Zelensky, because they were flat out wrong (there is little reasn to believe that Viktor Shokin was pursuing Burisma) but talked about a more general problem, that of Hunter Biden being on the payroll of Burisma.
It was Democrats who repeated the charges of firing the prosecutor to stop an investigation (but only when quoting Trump’s exact words) as if they were self-refuting. The House managers of the impeachment repeatedly called it a smear, but truth or falsity, probability or improbability made no difference in the charges, and except for the repeated incidental quoting of Trump, they never went into what Trump wanted looked into. The way they drew up the impeachment articles, Trump would be just as guilty of asking for foreign help) if the accusation he made to Ukrainian president Zelensky was spot on true. While it was false, they never wanted to go into detail because if Biden was questioned closely about the supposed “proof” he had been given – the recording about which Trump said he never heard anything like it – Biden would have to admit that he made the whole story up.
Biden has so far skated by all that.
The Republicans wanted to say the accusations were legitimate but the accusations they talked about were not the same as what Trump had said in that phone call.
The whole thing did cause, I think, Biden to lose half of his support in January..
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:54 am