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When Political Correctness Comes Horribly Full Circle

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:23 pm

[guest post by Dana]

The inevitable disastrous and devastating consequences of political correctness coming horribly full circle:

Pupils at the Herder school in Kassel, Germany have been subjected to months of sexual assault by “much older” migrant males on their way to and from school, dating back as far as September 2015. The three girls aged between 16 and 18 were repeatedly touched inappropriately and verbally abused, but they refused to report the incidents to the police or their school because the perpetrators were “refugees”.

German newspaper the Hessian Niedersächsische Allgemeine reports the girls realised the “social-political” implications of their reporting their crimes, with the significant amount of press attention swirling around migrant sex assault, leading to them becoming what the paper identified as “paralysed by political correctness”.

One of the girls, identified by the pseudonym ‘Anna’, said of their decision to suppress the sex attacks: “We do not want refugees to be discriminated against. We do not want people making sweeping accusations [about migrants], [and we didn’t want to] foment bad blood”. The school says “many others may have experienced this harassment as well”.

The girls were finally persuaded to come forward by a victim support group called ‘Kassel Help’, and they revealed how they were targeted by the men on public transport. The migrants who attacked them would find their way onto the same buses and trams daily to get near the girls, who were touched on the breasts, bottom, and between the legs. The report states “hardly a day went without harassment”.

Victims so effectively brainwashed, they chose to protect these animals. The very picture of a successful progressive society.

Not one bit surprising, though, given that the head of the group that fights against sexual violence pathetically excused these animals by claiming the migrants behaved this way because they “[came] from cultures with “different views of women,” and as such, there was a “desire to reclaim lost masculinity after the “fear and humiliation” of being a migrant”. This is what the madness of denial looks like when desperately trying to ignore the nasty, oozing boil of truth. But it shouldn’t be surprising considering that even elected officials and law enforcement chose to whitewash mass sexual assaults. These girls simply followed the example set by authority figures.

The real tragedy of coming full circle? The insanity of believing that young women wearing imaginary short skirts left these animals no choice but to assault them. You see? The poor guys. They are the real victims here.

I guess those classes on helping migrant men have fun sex aren’t necessary after all.


114 Responses to “When Political Correctness Comes Horribly Full Circle”

  1. Unbelievable.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  2. idiots

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. Poison.

    mg (31009b)

  4. A society that is so rotten that it doesn’t know what’s wrong from what is right or doesn’t believe strongly enough in principles, traditions, morals, ethics or common decency to fight back when under attack, may be too far gone to save.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  5. they do the immigrant community little favor acting like that,

    narciso (732bc0)

  6. They trash and destroy the land and her people because it isn’t their home. They are invaders looking to conquer.

    Coming soon to an open-borders nation near you.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  7. hillary will save us Mr. Rob

    she hates her some open borders

    happyfeet (831175)

  8. Who can blame syrians.

    Open borders = open legs.

    Why, it’s like no one warned Europe.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  9. The Kassel Syndrome should go right alongside the Stockholm Syndrome to describe behavior that is lamentable and mentally unstable.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  10. I wish I could maintain an air of superiority over Europe but thanks to the success of the Trump campaign I’ve been robbed of that.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  11. I has spelled words. Dammit.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  12. Not too terribly different from minorities in the USA who refuse to “rat out” thugs who prey on their own.

    No standards, no meaning. There is only the self. That is the progressive utopia. Strangely libertarian, but they’d never admit it.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  13. Wait until President Hillary stacks the Supreme Court.

    “Pssst…hey Texas,…they’re ain’t gonna be no more of ‘dem states rights!”

    How do ‘ya like ‘dem ‘principles’?! (LOL)

    …or grilled?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  14. No standards, no meaning. There is only the self…

    Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 6/11/2016 @ 9:50 pm

    Don’t get me started on gay marriage. The beginning of the end.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  15. I have perhaps been conspicuous in my absence and it is large measure that no one, absolutely no one, who I once knew who fought in the battle is still with us.

    Midway. That used to mean something.

    Yorktown! A tribute to the boys who loved her. How many man hours did it take to produce this, chipping and painting. Still haze grey and underway she is. Rust has not caught up with her. Three miles down.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  16. I did include a torpedo 8 link last weekend for what it was worth

    narciso (732bc0)

  17. I was struck when I read toll’s december 7th, how they impressed upon the notion that yamamoto was the moderate in the control group, there’s a certain irony there,

    narciso (732bc0)

  18. I know you did, narciso, and don’t think I didn’t notice.

    It’s just that with the loss of every pilot, every radio man/gunner, every maintainer, the hurt just grows bigger.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  19. it is as it must have been for civil war veterans in the 1930s, that much time has past, even more so, as this world is so alien to that other one,

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. @ Steve57: Have you pre-ordered Hornfischer’s new book, “The Fleet at Floodtide”? Due out in October.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  21. I now have the choice of voting for the absolute scum of the earth or a fraud who barely escaped prison.

    Thank you, democracy!

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  22. Beldar @22, wake up!

    Per prowlerguy I’m a fake veteran.

    So, of course not.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  23. Which is worse? Being accused of racism once, or being groped and manhandled over your entire course of school.

    These girls took an internal poll on that. Don’t call it irrational.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. …Don’t call it irrational.
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/11/2016 @ 11:37 pm

    I’ll be careful to walk on eggshells, papertiger.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  25. Yes, I know, about The sacred Der Donald.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  26. Steve57 regarding #17, are you saying you were at the battle of Midway?

    That’s Captain America stuff.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  27. These animals refuse to accept our Western culture of tolerance and respect for others and all too often will not assimilate. The 1st and 2nd generation Somalis in Minnesota that have sought to join ISIS and were arrested and tried are a prime example in the US, yet our government pushes bringing in more Muslims. You wouldn’t think that we don’t have a choice on who we let into our country, but we do. We have enough problems in the US without bringing in those who generally despise our culture and values. Per the census in 2010, 12.5% or 40 million of those living in the US were born in foreign lands (, thus having successful assimilation is overall very difficult especially since our past “forced” assimilation methods are not used because they are politically incorrect. This is the largest foreign born population in modern history.
    IMO, it is time to place a moratorium on further immigration with the possible exception of those Christian families from the Middle East who are facing genocide and others on a case by case basis because of their value to our country and having family in the US. Many of those ME Christians in refugee camps have been vetted by a gentleman in California who has been in the news since the Obama Admin will not hear him out, and he is a Democrat, and vetted by responsible NGOs. Those Christians family’s beliefs mirror our country’s historical majority beliefs in our Judicial-Christian values which should make those people much more likely to assimilate. Celebrating your family’s cultural history is wonderful, but be Americans first. Additionally, bringing thousands of uneducated, unskilled people place increased pressure on our own citizens whose limited skill sets have limited job prospects available in this worse economic recovery post WWII. I would say the Southern border has to be closed, as well for cultural and American’s jobs prospects, for the same reasons.
    Open borders, as we have between our 50 states, would be acceptable if the world’s cultures were based on the same values, tolerance was the norm and there was no severe economic disparity among nations; but this is not reality with billions of people willing to come to the US for economic reasons. The sacrifices Haitians will make to come to the US shows it is extremely hard to prevent even illegal immigration over the seas.
    If people believe that such an thoughts are racist, they can stick their heads up where the sun doesn’t shine. America is built on tolerance of other’s beliefs which is enshrined in our Constitution and our Judicial-Christian values. Any group that has a problem with that, as we see in Europe with their refugees and immigrants from the ME and the those like the Mexican flag waving rioters at Trump rallies, need not be allowed into the US. Why invite in those who do not agree with our values.

    amr (9c5455)

  28. Where are the men in these women’s lives? Sorry, you touch any female friend or family member without their consent, we’re going to have a problem. Nuff said.

    hadoop (657247)

  29. Oh boy are you getting in trouble here, amr. The general philosophy here is that moslems should be allowed into America because we have freedom of religion and are not allowed to discriminate based on religion. The Mexicans should be allowed in because 40 million aren’t enough (and the more we bring in the more jobs magically appear according to Sammy Finkleman) plus anchor babies, plus racial discrimination. We have no right to regulate our borders nor the freedom to stipulate who is allowed to immigrate here. We are too “feeble-minded” to figure these intricacies of settlement out. Beside, it’s politically incorrect to point out that the white, Christian Founding Fathers were creating a Free nation for white Christians. It amazes me how the only countries expected, no demanded to “diversify” are the white Christian ones. Nobody is saying 40 million Africans should be dropped into Japan, or 10 million moslems shoved into India. Just Europe, North America an Down Under “must” diversify or they’re racists.

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

    We cannot have a moral country when we “celebrate diversity” to the extent we promote sexual disorders as lifestyles. We can’t have religious people when God is illegal in State run schools of indoctrination and people are allowed to murder us in the name of their god.

    Islam is not a religion it is a state without borders and they are actively invading us and killing our families and the PC crowd sits frozen in PC fear.

    The PC clowns are beside themselves in desperation to “tag” the shootings in Orlando. Was it “radical” moslem extremists, or anti gay people, or anti Hispanics, or anti gay/hispanic/moslem white racists? One thing they do know, however, GUNS DID IT. Wait till something like this occurs, and it will, after Hillary! is President and has appointed her SC picks. Wow! Good-bye gun rights, hello seizures. She’ll do it for the children.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  30. Sorry, you touch any female friend or family member without their consent, we’re going to have a problem. Nuff said.

    Yeah, right hadoop, what are you going to do about it? Sue’em? If you holler at them it’s bullying hate speech and if you hit them it’s a hate crime against a religious minority. The left has spent 50 years painting us into a Constitutional and legal corner with all this minority as$ kissing so now…Nuff said.

    Rev. Hoagie© (734193)

  31. Night club massacre

    More assimilating. This time in Orlando, Florida.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  32. papertiger @28, if you have hate in your heart ajend lying is your objective, the you can get from A to Z.

    Otherwise I don’t see it. Please explain how my expressed lament, that the few who fought at Midway grow fewer by the day, somehow translates into me at Midway.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  33. #23: Steve,

    Thank you, democracy!

    On the other hand, thanks to democracy, the UK has the opportunity to exit from the EU on June 23rd, and things are looking promising. Englishmen have had about 40 years to experience the joys of autocratic progressive rule nominally centered in a few buildings in Brussels. The inevitable results of such governance, including the need to control public discourse related to the increasingly common miscarriages of public policy, such as the groping and rape of their young women, let alone muslim slaughter of innocents, may have finally accumulated to the point that ordinary citizens have had enough. If so, England may once again assume her role as the pivotal power in European affairs from the relative safety of her island fortress.

    We’ve been under the iron thumb of our own regulatory State for about 30 years, but until Obama, most were indifferent and uninvolved. But with his pen and his cell phone, Obama has set the clock ticking, and perhaps in the late 2040s we too will have had enough. And then perhaps a vote will offer us hope of freedom from the clutches of the autocrats in D. C.

    But this timeline may be too conservative. Last night’s slaughter of 20 in a gay nightclub in Florida by a jihadist will no doubt become more commonplace and accepted by our rulers in D. C., who regard this as the cost of our new brand of “freedom”. And to our rulers, these costs are statistically bearable, in large part because they believe they will be personally protected from the consequences of their policies by the police state they have formed, and the public can be anesthetized to the pain by twisting the numbers and enforcing ever more ridiculous rules of political correctness. But the predictable calls for gun control and increased tolerance for the religion of peace will be become increasingly annoying as the body count grows. And so, who knows, maybe we’ll wake up from our nightmare in the 2030s? The sun will likely be so quiescent that at Maunder Minimum will lead to a little ice age, and if D. C. freezes over, and crops fail, perhaps democracy will experience a reawakening in the U. S.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  34. It’s a mass delusion. How did it happen so completely, so effectively, and how do we fight back against the long march through the institutions?

    Now we’re seeing it again with the killings at the gay club. How will we excuse this one too? Did a Jewish man argue with the killer, like the Jewish co-workers in San Bernardino? Did they have a Christmas tree up?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  35. New post up about Florida nightclub massacre.

    Dana (0ee61a)

  36. We are led to ask, as prowlerguy does not, why where those rooms air conditioned.

    The easy answer is, the machines start breaking down above 80dg farenheit. There is a longer answer and you’re interested in why you shouldn’t buy a 2016 Edsel I’ll explain it.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  37. BobStewartatHome, I hope yours know what they have in you.

    … The sun will likely be so quiescent that at Maunder Minimum

    God. Damn.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  38. Patricia, it is indeed a mass delusion. But the “mass” is limited to academia, mass media journalists, the bureaucracy, government employees, and our elected representatives. Regrettably, this group is large enough that they can dismiss the less organized, but much larger, private citizenry as inconsequential bitter clingers. It is interesting to see how the different pieces of the modern regulatory state reinforce one another in maintaining this delusion. The media now centers their coverage on something called “the narrative”, which implicitly dismisses the possibility that there is a real story, based on verifiable facts, beneath the surface of current events. Everything is portrayed as a clash of narratives, and the media covers it like a horse race … which group is currently leading in the creation of the best “narrative”. For example, Clinton and Obama won this horse race in the Benghazi affair, and naturally Obama was awarded the presidency for his cleverness. But this neglects the inherent advantages the incumbent has since he controls the factoids that the bureaucracy releases. Bush, perhaps handicapped by a sense of humility and responsibility, played this game poorly, and his downfall was hastened by the media who perceived his behavior as a monumental ineptness, an indication of malfeasance.

    BobStewartatHome (404986)

  39. I have to wonder if what the girls mean is “We know goddamned well, from our experience at school, that making a complaint against a Protected Person would result in punishment, not justice, and didn’t especially feel like getting lectured on ‘cultural sensitivity’ by our asshole teachers on top of being molested.”

    C. S. P. Schofield (850e8d)

  40. This is the result of the German government’s program of promoting Islamic immigration. To avoid criticism of the program reports of sexual assaults by gangs of Muslim thugs are suppressed. In fact, as this story shows, the victims of sexual assault fear to report instances of abuse for fear government officials will protect the perpetrators at the expense of the victims.

    The blame for these sexual assaults falls directly on the head of Angela Merkel. She is governing against the will of the German people, which makes her a tyrant. Death to Tyrants.

    ropelight (596f46)

  41. The Valdez Fly-In.



    Blue Ice Aviation was there.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  42. I have to run, so I’ll just say this: Political Correctness about immigration is turning people, in a sense, into shmoos.

    What’s a shmoo? If you remember the old comic strip “Li’l Abner,” you know. If not, from Wikipedia:

    Shmoos are delicious to eat, and are eager to be eaten. If a human looks at one hungrily, it will happily immolate itself — either by jumping into a frying pan, after which they taste like chicken, or into a broiling pan, after which they taste like steak. When roasted they taste like pork, and when baked they taste like catfish. (Raw, they taste like oysters on the half-shell.)

    I think you know what I’m getting at.

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  43. If you have not seen it here is an interactive google map of germany showing all refugee criminal reports.

    You can use google translate to put it in english. Each report has an associated article to verify the claims. Appalling

    Gil (0bf8a1)

  44. who I once knew who fought in the battle is still with us.

    Steve57, so you’re activities director at the Veteran’s Home?

    papertiger @28, if you have hate in your heart ajend lying is your objective, the you can get from A to Z.

    It’s not so outlandish that you could have been at Midway. I knew a veteran who worked the radar in Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor attack. He used to kid that WW2 was all his fault.

    If you were 18 at Midway you’d be 90 or 91 today. It’s possible.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  45. papertiger @28, if you have hate in your heart ajend lying is your objective, the you can get from A to Z.

    Tell me propaganda doesn’t work.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  46. I might be mistaken on some issues, but I never lie.

    You owe me an apology.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  47. Is this “written violence,” ropelight, or free speech?

    The blame for these sexual assaults falls directly on the head of Angela Merkel. She is governing against the will of the German people, which makes her a tyrant. Death to Tyrants.

    ropelight (596f46) — 6/12/2016 @ 8:30 am

    DRJ (15874d)

  48. What about this?

    Death to the Demoness Dowager Clinton, to Bernie Sanders, to Black Lives Matter, to rioting Mexican mutts and to the neocoms that support them!

    DRJ (15874d)

  49. By the way, I’m still working on my promised response about “written violence.” It’s taking time but I’m learning a lot.

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. Did I mention that “written violence” is going to be the name of my next rodeo horse?

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  51. I flipped the coin.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  52. The horse lost.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  53. I am so, glad almost nobody was standing around documenting the thing with a camera.

    Messicans and horses, behaving badly.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  54. A family member was taking a course in the military associated with his position in the Army. The course had pupils from around the world and from the Mid East. He was astonished when they were taking HR and a Saudi asked what was wrong with rape, he was serious and their culture does not care about violence against women.

    david7134 (7986b9)

  55. That goes for you too DRJ. “He’ll say anything”, said she. Where do you get the nerve.

    The issues I stand on, there ain’t no ads on Huffington Post soliciting to pay money for my comments.

    Here’s a rule of thumb for you in your search for internet lies, so you won’t be mistaken in the future.

    If Huffington Post won’t pay you money to say it, it’s probably true.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  56. And John Hitchcock, pick a country and stick with it. Quit straddling the fence.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  57. Let’s get back to square. My dander is back down.

    Steve, you think I’m trying to ridicule you as not being in the battle of Midway?

    Hell no. I enjoy your war stories, even though they aren’t your own. No jest or jibe intended.

    I was hoping that Steve57 was in the battle of Midway, so he could tell us stories from the first hand.

    It’s a more interesting and poetic world if Steve57 survived the Battle of Midway.

    At least for me.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  58. If mobs of dozens of German men beat these scum to death after each offense, it would stop.

    John Skookum (5e0fec)

  59. This is what happens when a people lay down their arms at the government’s behest.

    Also heartbreaking are the spineless jellyfish the fathers and older brothers of these girls have become. My dad was not a confrontational man at all. He was a walk softly, speak softly, but carry a big stick type. He owned a prosperous business in the somewhat darker part of the south SF Bay Area. He carried a sap and one of the smallest .22 LR pistols I’ve ever seen. He often had large sums of cash. If I had been manhandled the way these girls have been, it’s possible the perpetrator would have ended up trying to hold his guts or ribs together behind a dumpster in an alley after regaining consciousness.

    Thirty years of softening men, especially white men, as targets in all western countries through socialist propaganda and negative feedback have led to our men standing by and allowing their beautiful, innocent, fresh daughters to be sullied by the savages. They have become wimps and eunuchs. I am truly sickened. We all should be. And if I see one more damned TV commercial depicting white guys as stupid dorks and the black guy as the problem-solver, I do believe I will scream.

    ocean (38f70a)

  60. There are obviously no men left in Germany.

    Had this been my sister, daughter, wife or friend, several of my friends and I would have been waiting for these perverts the next morning and we would have educated them on appropriate conduct in polite society. It would have been educational to say the least.

    Get ready because recent events prove this is now a problem on these shores.

    WarEagle82 (5bf75f)

  61. So we are now at the point where people in protected classes fake hate crimes to call attention to issues where there really is hardly a problem (else, why do they have to fake it?) because they know that with political correctness on their side they will get a sympathetic reaction, while real crimes by people in protected classes go unreported because political correctness has been used to intimidate the real victims into silence.

    We’re all doomed.

    mhj (a148c4)

  62. What are you talking about, papertiger 57?

    DRJ (15874d)

  63. DRJ, if I may be so bold as to request you indulge me, please make clear that the 57 has nothing to do with me.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  64. Perhaps you don’t recall that ropelight talked about “written violence” at this website but wouldn’t give examples when Dana requested them, so I am. This is ropelight’s idea, papertiger.

    DRJ (15874d)

  65. 57 is the comment number, Steve57. I think everyone understands that.

    DRJ (15874d)

  66. But if it was confusing, my comment was in response to pepertiger’s comment number 57. It was not directed at you, Steve57.

    DRJ (15874d)

  67. 62, 63
    Never mind the men.
    The girls of my age cohort knew the best and simplest way to deal with that sort of stuff was a slap on the face, followed by a knee to the groin if that did not work.

    kishnevi (1b8c69)

  68. You are, as always, an angel DRJ.

    I remain forever unarmed, unafraid, and confused, your humble servant.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  69. …The girls of my age cohort knew the best and simplest way to deal with that sort of stuff was a slap on the face, followed by a knee to the groin if that did not work.

    kishnevi (1b8c69) — 6/13/2016 @ 10:02 am

    I believe you mentioned you were Jewish. If so, I am definitely going to have to start hanging with the Israeli chicks.

    24.FKZ A-WA Habib Galbi

    I’ll forego the traditional M-16s and Bikinis on a Tel Aviv beach.

    Which are available, by the way, for free.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  70. Steve the shicksas were just as ready to defend themselves.

    kishnevi (1b8c69)

  71. I have perhaps been conspicuous in my absence and it is large measure that no one, absolutely no one, who I once knew who fought in the battle is still with us.

    Midway. That used to mean something.

    Dude. You were at Midway?

    papertiger @28, if you have hate in your heart ajend lying is your objective, the you can get from A to Z.

    Ask the guy if he was at the Battle of Midway, and he attacks me. Maybe I asked you if you were at Midway because you positioned yourself as the first hand friend of everyone who was. You made it an A to B.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  72. papertiger, no honest person could begin at your starting point and end up where you ended up.

    I was lamenting the fact that everyone I know who fought at Midway is now dead.

    Maybe you don’t know an honest person. I’ll cut you that much slack.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  73. Papertiger continues to be an aggressively nasty troll, continues to demand apologies. No wonder he likes Trump, who is sensitive to everything, except he does it 100X worse.

    BTW, I know people who have fought in wars I didn’t fight in. Saying you know someone who did something is not saying you did that thing. Steve’s been around here for a long time and no one, including papertiger the nasty troll, misunderstood him for a second.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  74. Dustin, just so you know, there has never ever been a war I’ve fought in.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  75. They’ve managed to get along quite nicely without me.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  76. Mr. papertiger is not a nasty troll he’s a patriot and he loves his country very much

    happyfeet (831175)

  77. What are you talking about, papertiger 57?

    DRJ (15874d) — 6/13/2016 @ 9:38 am

    I’m talking about this caviler buying into Hitchcock’s propaganda. In the pages of this blog Hitchcock did pledge allegiance to Mexico, and attacked me on their behalf, so even the “original sin” that set that mad fark’s merry go round in motion is the Gospel truth.

    When are you going to call him out?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  78. I’ve got this first aid kit you’d hardly believe. Screw my ability with a rifle or Filipino martial arts (I mostly wasted my Judo time as my sensei wanted a drinking buddy, not like I minded) I’ve got toolboxes full of of blood clotting agents.

    And no one asked me.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  79. Papertiger, when and where did Mr. Hitchcock ever “pledge allegiance to Mexico”?

    I don’t remember him saying anything remotely like that.

    kishnevi (948a4d)

  80. papertiger,

    Steve57 seems to be a very self-deprecating guy about his military service. He’s never put on any airs about it that I’ve seen. In fact, he often provides links to stories of heroic, yet unheralded men who made great sacrifices for our country. I don’t know how you believed he might possibly be a 92 year old veteran of the South Pacific theatre.
    He’s never claimed to be the best friend of any of those people. I think he just likes to bring a little attention to their heroism and service as a little distraction from America’s obsession with Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, and Miley Cyrus.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  81. I have this bookmarked. Because, is she not beautiful?

    After all these years she’s a lady.

    Other than Gina Lollobrigida I can find no comparison.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  82. Dustin, just so you know, there has never ever been a war I’ve fought in.


    Yeah, I know. Cold war navy guy. You’ve talked about it. Still defended the country and it pisses me off when people get passive aggressive about that point.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  83. Cruz Supporter, my dad remains an enshrined member of the Coast Guard Radiomen’s Hall of Fame. And you could not remove the pride I feel about that with a belt grinder.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  84. So these friends of yours from the big war tell you any stories?

    papertiger (c2d6da)


    I’m just linking to this because it’s accessible. My dad was a pro.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  86. So these friends of yours from the big war tell you any stories?
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/13/2016 @ 12:34 pm

    You mean like my parish priest capturing 11 NORKs at pistol point?

    No, nothing like that, d*ckl*ess.

    And then there was the guy who gave me a job out of high school.

    The guy who spent a year in the regional naval hospital, because he went back one more time for the body. He was a Marine. He never wore shorts after that because the commies shot up his legs. But the thing was, he went back.

    And, it was in the newspapers. Before they flipped to the other side. So eff you.

    I went where they told me to go. I did what they told me to do. As it happened, I didn’t get killed.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  87. Steve57,

    By putting on a uniform, you (and your father) each “signed up” for potential risk to life and limb.

    I recall when President Clinton made the remark that he presided in the White House during a time of relative peace and therefore unfortunately wasn’t afforded the opportunity to become a “great” President such as past war-time presidents.
    Of course, that’s the perspective of an absolute narcissist who wouldn’t have had to face gun-fire had WW3 broken out when he was president.
    After all, anytime we have relative peace, that’s a great fortune.
    But, as Rahm Emanuel famously asserted, “We should never allow a crisis to go to waste.”
    And Bill Clinton was effectively hoping for a crisis so that he could save the day, and earn his place in the history books.

    Whenever I watch the classic ‘From Here to Eternity,’ I’m always impacted by that scene toward the end of the film when the guys are eating a little breakfast around 8AM on a Sunday morning in December, and all of a sudden the whole mess hall rocks like an earthquake.
    When they had gone to bed on Saturday night, they were in peacetime.
    But, by “signing up,” they were risking life and limb to potential enemy aggression which might occur at any time during their tenure.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)


    Distinguished Service Cross
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    Awarded for actions during the Korean War

    The President of the United States of America, under the provisions of the Act of Congress approved July 9, 1918, takes pleasure in presenting the Distinguished Service Cross to Sergeant Jack E. Macy (MCSN: 1086690), United States Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations against an armed enemy of the United Nations while serving with the Company H, Third Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Provisional Marine Brigade (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, Pacific, in action against enemy aggressor forces northeast of Chindong-ni, Korea, on 8 August 1950. At this time Sergeant Macy was acting platoon sergeant of a rifle platoon that was being relieved on position while still engaged with the enemy and under continuous heavy small arms fire and sporadic mortar fire. When the relief was completed, it was discovered that three men were missing. Sergeant Macy, with absolute disregard for his own safety and despite heavy fire from enemy weapons, voluntarily returned to the formerly occupied position in search of these men. During his search, and at the risk of his own life, he administered first aid to several wounded men comrades. After locating the missing men, all of whom were wounded, he made three trips through heavy enemy fire to carry the wounded men to safety. He then made a fourth trip to recover the body of a fallen comrade, but, because of intense enemy fire, was ordered to cover the body and leave it in position. Sergeant Macy’s display of outstanding courage and devotion to duty is in keeping with our most cherished ideals and reflects great credit on himself and the military service.
    General Orders: General Headquarters Far East Command: General Orders No. 44 (October 22, 1950)

    Action Date: 8-Aug-50

    Service: Marine Corps

    Rank: Sergeant

    Company: Company H

    Battalion: 3d Battalion

    Regiment: 5th Marines, 1st Provisional Marine Brigade (Rein.)

    Division: Fleet Marine Force, Pacific

    The thing is, papertiger, is all you’ve succeeded in doing is reminding me of how much I’ve yet to live up to. Was that your intent?

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  89. When I was a private, I was assigned to funeral detail. This was nearly twenty years ago. A couple of times, someone would manage to arrange a horn to play taps, instead of the CD player I was issued to play from. Cried every time. I’m a social person and enjoy talking to families and hearing about the people I had just served. Once in a while there would be someone who served and dimly remembered. I learned then, very early on, something I’ve seen in my future endeavors. Those that talked the most shit were the ones who weren’t worth shit. Those constantly demanding people brag about their heroism had no understanding of duty. The ones who don’t talk that way, but simply are happy to be with their families, and would do anything for them… those are the ones who get it.

    Trump is the perfect example. The man is a coward. He lied to get out of Vietnam service, proven when someone asked him which foot was so injured he got a medical deferral, and Trump stammered and guessed both. Then Trump bragged about what a ladies man he was during the war. Daddy’s money can do that. And he proceeded to fail at so many things, much as he is failing at this current election, while insisting he is not only awesome, but he can think of no worthier thing to honor but himself. So he orders another ten sets of huge gold TRUMP signs.

    Hillary stinks too, but she’s so much better on the ‘ugly narcissist’ front it’s not even funny.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  90. HA! My comment went into moderation! First time that’s happened to me in years.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  91. …After locating the missing men, all of whom were wounded, he made three trips through heavy enemy fire to carry the wounded men to safety. He then made a fourth trip to recover the body of a fallen comrade, but, because of intense enemy fire, was ordered to cover the body and leave it in position…

    He didn’t know the guy was dead.

    Any more questions or insinuations, papertiger?
    Because I have an answer. Every single time.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  92. CS, I don’t want to make it more than it was.

    Although, if you want to make a big deal about something, feel free to make a big deal about my Great Uncle who was a Marine at Belleau Wood.

    Now that was sh*t f*cking hot.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  93. The Army insisted that the Marines stay out out of Europe in WWII because the Marines stole all the glory in WWI.

    By “stole” I mean earned.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  94. papertiger 357,

    Here is my comment on another thread:

    265. Trump’s “mistake” is not having a clue what he believes in, other than himself. He will say anything.

    DRJ (15874d) — 6/11/2016 @ 5:46 pm

    My comment was in response to comment 262 by happyfeet talking about what happyfeet says was Cruz’s mistake.

    Firat, what does that have to do with John Hitchcock?

    Second, what is incorrect about my statement? Trump will say anything. Consistency isn’t why his supporters like him.

    DRJ (15874d)

  95. That should have been addressed to papertiger #57, not 357.

    DRJ (15874d)

  96. Also, I still don’t know what you are talking about. Your comment 80 made me more confused.

    DRJ (15874d)

  97. …It’s a more interesting and poetic world if Steve57 survived the Battle of Midway.

    At least for me.
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/12/2016 @ 6:09 pm

    Spoiler alert: I did not survive the Battle of Midway.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  98. I’ll have to see some documentation first, but I think you ruined the ending.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  99. Damn DRJ. I’m sorry. For some reason I personalized your disparagement of Donald Trump.

    I hope the word “caviler” threw you off. That was a new word for me too.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  100. …I’ll have to see some documentation first, but I think you ruined the ending.
    papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/13/2016 @ 9:22 pm

    I die in the first wave, at approximately the 06:51 mark

    Still waiting on the paperwork.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  101. At about the 14:29 minute mark, why is that man smiling?

    The Navy Doc just gave him some medicinal brandy. That’s why.

    And, Jeezus, what are those guys doing wearing dress whites @11:20!? There’s a f***ing battle going on.

    I haz made me a target. Words I never spoke.

    Steve57 (e33d44)


    A friend of mine was a Green Beret who got smart. So he joined the Nav.

    And remember him telling me how he hated Summer Whites and Dress Whites because of the IR signature.

    I invited him to shoot me if I was ever stupid enough to run around a jungle in white polyester.

    The invite is still good.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  103. My wife has a subscription to Mad Magazine in my name (no joke). Gives her something to hand me when she wishes to imply I’m being a grumpy and should grow up. But I really enjoy the magazine and this month’s has a really nice Trump University diploma. The best detail of many is that it’s a B.S. I’m probably going to frame it.

    About 50% of the magazine is trashing the guy. One page has a list of some of my favorite Bible Quotes next to Trump quotes. You can’t walk away from that thinking this is an honorable man, even if you have no faith. Trump fans are frustrated because they have a taste of victory but can tell the war is lost. Those of us who explained this to them when they could have won with a conservative will take the most flack. They are being grumpy and should grow up.

    Dustin (2a8be7)

  104. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 6/13/2016 @ 12:51 pm

    And Bill Clinton was effectively hoping for a crisis so that he could save the day, and earn his place in the history books.

    Oh, he arranged a couple of them, starting with the Iowa floods in 1993. Although I think the motive for the Oklahoma bombing was much more important than that. It almost stopped the hearings about Waco, and even though the Senate hearings take place, it was muted somewhat. Nobody disputed that the Davidians started the fire. Which was completely untrue and against the evidence.

    Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f)

  105. Trump fans are frustrated because they have a taste of victory, but can tell the war is lost.

    But Dustin, President Momjeans is probably scolding Americans for “misunderstanding” Islam as I type this. Hitlary is pushing forward with her brilliant plan to disarm Americans for the benefit of future Jihadis.

    Seriously. I like our chances, despite a good percentage of self satisfied shmucks kicking dirt on our allies.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  106. Dustin,

    I’m starting to come around to your position on Hillary. Her track record as Secretary of State probably isn’t half as bad as what conservatives allege.

    I’m just kidding.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  107. Well, it could be worse. Some of them could be charged with adultery under Sharia Law.

    Qatar has released a Dutch woman after holding her for three months because she had the nerve to be raped and report it. Blunt, but true. This is life for women who live under Sharia law.

    The woman only known as Laura reported her rape to officials, but they in turn arrested her for adultery because she had sex outside of marriage

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  108. @110, Eisenhower got the US involved in the overthrow of Mossadegh and then there were the crusades and the Spaniards and Charles Martel not welcoming the nice Muslims to to Europe with open arms so it’s just not their fault. It never is.

    Clearly they accused the Dutch tramp of adultery as an understandable reaction to US foreign policy.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

  109. you are david hertig, from the philadelphia experiment, admit it,

    narciso (732bc0)

  110. 1. The Muslims didn’t do it.
    2. Besides, did you see how short her skirt was?
    3. She was begging for it.
    4. And it didn’t happen.

    Steve57 (e33d44)

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