Patterico's Pontifications

BuzzFeed terminates ad deal with RNC over Trump.

Absurd publicity stunt. The deal was signed in April but now they’re shocked? Come on.

Patterico (86c8ed) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:23 pm

“I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

This seems to be happening with far greater speed than I imagined.”

— Ace

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:24 pm

Marco Rubio: I told you this sh!t would happen if you guys voted for Trump. I warned you and warned you and warned you.

(Vote Trump.)

Patterico (86c8ed) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:29 pm

“I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

This seems to be happening with far greater speed than I imagined.”

— Ace

“Or maybe we’re having a political re-alignment where folks like me continue to hold the same principles we always held, while we watch the majority of our party simply emigrating to Democrat principles.”

— Patterico

Patterico (86c8ed) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:31 pm

I tried to leave that comment at Ace’s and got a screen that looked like this:

500 Internal Server Error

The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cherrypy/_cprequest.py”, line 670, in respond
response.body = self.handler()
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cherrypy/lib/encoding.py”, line 212, in __call__
self.body = self.oldhandler(*args, **kwargs)
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cherrypy/_cpdispatch.py”, line 61, in __call__
return self.callable(*self.args, **self.kwargs)
File “main.py”, line 45, in index
return minx.go(cherrypy.request,cherrypy.response,cherrypy.thread_data,{})
File “/home/minxcc/minx/live/minx.py”, line 2047, in go
do_form(tags[‘form’])
File “/home/minxcc/minx/live/minx.py”, line 1515, in do_form
if form==’form.comment’: form_comment(tags)
File “/home/minxcc/minx/live/minx.py”, line 1871, in form_comment
do_sql(‘select comment_id from mt_comment where comment_entry_id = %s and comment_text = %s’,(tags[‘page.post’],tags[‘form.text’]))
File “/home/minxcc/minx/live/minx.py”, line 259, in do_sql
perform_sql(query,vars)
File “/home/minxcc/minx/live/minx.py”, line 273, in perform_sql
page.c.execute(query,vars)
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py”, line 187, in execute
query = query % tuple([db.literal(item) for item in args])
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py”, line 278, in literal
return self.escape(o, self.encoders)
File “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py”, line 208, in unicode_literal
return db.literal(u.encode(unicode_literal.charset))
UnicodeEncodeError: ‘latin-1′ codec can’t encode character u’\u201c’ in position 0: ordinal not in range(256)

Patterico (86c8ed) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:34 pm

Alas, I’m no technogeek, so I haven’t the foggiest what that is.

John Hitchcock (a9b2a3) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:38 pm

I think he had one of his occasional purges to rid his site of sock-puppets and nasty, rude people and you have to register again to comment.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:39 pm

Looks like Ace’s comments are ASCII-only. Unicode 201c is the left double quotation mark wherewith the would-be comment begins, and “ordinal not in range(256)” sounds like it’s expecting each character to fit in 8 bits. (Maybe not strictly ASCII, but some 8-bit relative.)
But that’s not exactly the most elegant error handling.

Eric Wilner (3936fd) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:51 pm

“I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

This seems to be happening with far greater speed than I imagined.”

— Ace

oh my goodness Mr. Ace you really nailed it

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:55 pm

what’s wrong with proteinwisdom btw it seems very recalcitrant

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:57 pm

summon the kraken,

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/06/06/reid-calls-mcconnell-poster-boy-for-republicans-spinelessness-on-trump/

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:03 pm

Patterico – I thought if someone wanted to do business with you, you had to, regardless of the political viewpoint. There are some bakers and photographers and property owners that will be pleased to know you can choose to not do business with someone based on differing political views.

JD (2e3880) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:17 pm

Up to their necks in corruption… http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/state-department-blocks-release-hillary-clinton-era-tpp-emails-until-after

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:21 pm

the people where i get my cakes, sometimes they don’t have my favorite one ready

it’s cause of how i like Mr. Trump better than her dankness

and you know what

i don’t get mad and surly to where i bonk people on the head with weighty objects

i

hold

on

to the thangs

i belieber in

stank sucks

trump rocks

my freedom

i can’t wait for President Trump to start helping everybody get more better jobs and choices

he’s a tall drink of water

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:24 pm

I’m starting to have second thoughts about this Donald Trump guy

Now is not the time to go wobbly.

I think he had one of his occasional purges to rid his site of sock-puppets and nasty, rude people and you have to register again to comment.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/6/2016 @ 5:39 pm

Pixy will scrape the dead hamsters stuck under the wheels and get it going again. No biggie.

Bill H (971e5f) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:46 pm

“I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

This seems to be happening with far greater speed than I imagined.”

I see the political re-alignment taking place inside the Republican party, and the while some suburban upper-class are emigrating to the Democrat party, a vast majority of them are staying inside the Republican party, and, as Patrick says, they are emigrating to Democrat principles. Thus the party is being remade in the image of the Democrats. I think that is evidence that the leadership of the party has successfully co-opted the party, and it now is a Democratic 2.0 party. This was always the plan. This election is a godsend vehicle for the party’s goals to come to fruition that much more quickly.

It’s ironic: conservatives are being squeezed out of the party by virtue of their principles resembling those of the party less and less.

What I would ask Ace is, why does he think the Republicans need to leave their party to find like minded voters, when clearly, they can, and have simply remade it into what they want? No need to walk across any aisle. The aisle is quickly disappearing before our eyes.

Dana (0ee61a) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:12 pm

no, dana, we’re talking on balance, those who barely tolerated reagan, and have become progressively more attune to left dirigiste, over ‘dirty’ industries like coal, who are embarassed about faith, who don’t understand why the cold war was fought in the first place,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:16 pm

if ace is down and proteinwisdom is down, then i think they might both be down

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:16 pm

no ewok is back, just in time to creep me out,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:21 pm

Generations of gubmint schools have done their damage.

Thinking is hard and if those schools are about anything, they are about teaching how to avoid it.

Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:46 pm

Patterico – I thought if someone wanted to do business with you, you had to, regardless of the political viewpoint. There are some bakers and photographers and property owners that will be pleased to know you can choose to not do business with someone based on differing political views.

JD (2e3880) — 6/6/2016 @ 6:17 pm

If the wannabe tyrants had put it that way, you would have a point. Unfortunately, they have, for their own purposes, defined the differing views not as political divergences, but as illegal discrimination against a protected class.

So it doesn’t matter if your reason for not wanting to use your talent for photography, floral arrangements, or baking cakes is because you are politically or religiously opposed to same-sex marriage. As far as the people who write those bills behind the scenes and wait patiently to slide them into existing anti-discrimination statutes are concerned, you cannot make the argument that your choice to not serve such a wedding is due to anything but your bigotry toward the LGBT persons requesting your service, thus making it as illegal as a “whites only” business.

That’s what happened in the landmark Willock v. Elane Photography case (2006). New Mexico’s legislature had in 2003 amended its civil rights laws to elevate LGBT activity to sex (not “gender”) and race, giving lesbian plantiff Vanessa Willock a leg to stand on over two years later when Elaine Huguenin and her husband kindly declined to photograph her nuptials.

You may be familiar with New Mexico Supreme Court Justice Richard Bosson’s takeaway line from his opinion in favor of plaintiff Willock: “It is the price of citizenship.” You are likely not aware of how he compared — not contrasted, but compared — the Huguenins’ clearly scripturally-based stance against same-sex marriage with this bigoted, extra-biblical dogmatic nonsense written in 1958 by the Virginia judge overturned in Loving v. Virginia (1967, link, bold mine):

The Virginia trial judge, in justifying the [miscegenation] conviction [of Mr. and Mrs. Loving], drew strength from his view of the Bible:

“Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with this arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”

L.N. Smithee (b84cf6) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:48 pm

“I have long suspected we might have a political re-alignment where the suburban upper-class contingent of the GOP simply emigrates to the Democrat party.

I thought we already had that which is why the term RINO was invented. Or does RINO mean something other than a person who claims to be a Republican but isn’t?

It’s ironic: conservatives are being squeezed out of the party by virtue of their principles resembling those of the party less and less.

As a conservative I felt “squeezed out of the party” a long time ago. Remember Reagan’s quip about him not leaving the democrat party, it left him? That’s how I felt for at least a decade. We couldn’t even get traction in or support from the Republican hierarchy when we launched the Tea Party movement and that was a gimme.

Truth is the left has used the education, entertainment and media establishments over the last five decades to woo vulnerable kids to their team and rather than fight the Republican bosses joined. Now it’s too late guys. It’s done. Look what we have for candidates and tell me the left hasn’t won. That’s why I hate to watch you guys rip into each other. The left is not like the right. When they take over completely they will not give us a fair deal. They don’t believe in that. No more than a guy who supports a wall against Mexico will get a fair deal with a La Raza judge, or a conservative 503c will be treated fairly by the IRS. No sir, get ready it’s commin’.

How much did you see about D-Day on the news today? Now how much did you hear about Mohammad Ali over the last three days? Hell, you’d think Ali was a friggin’ war hero or something. The guy turned his back on Christ and joined a racist moslem cult. Then claimed he was a conscience objector and fled the country to avoid service in Vietnam. See, his making millions boxing was more important than America or doing his duty. Does anyone here know if the man taken in Mohammad’s place was killed and never came home to his family? Does anyone care? Of course not. Leftists hate sports like boxing, they’re so NASCAR-like. But they sure rallied around “that great man Mohammad Ali” when the ba$tard finally croaked. He was the perfect boxer. Narcissistic, Black, dumped Christianity, embraced islam, dodged the draft, made millions and came home and lived a life of luxury on the bodies he left in Da Nang. When he came home he visited his leftist friends in North Korea and just loved him some Cuban dictators. The perfect modern democrat. If he had cut his junk off and called himself Madia Ali they would have declared him a god. Screw him. I hope he rots in hell.

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:49 pm

Ace is thin gruel. Let’s start with “suburban upper-class”. To me that means Hyannis Port and the Kennedy family. Or Kennebunkport and the Bush family. Or Beverly Hills and the Milburn Drysdale family. First generation parvenus don’t make the cut, sorry, Mr. Gates and Mr. Buffett.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 7:57 pm

Don’t you think the Republican/leftard transformation has effectively already happened? (Trump notwithstanding; though I’m pretty sure that, if elected, he’ll cave to the left on many or most core issues.)

The evidence is the past two electoral midterm cycles. In both instances, genuinely angry conservatives handed the GOP massive victories, for which they were rewarded with… nothing.

RIFF RAFF and MAGENTA: We ask for nothing.
DR. FRANK N FURTER: And you shall HAVE it, IN ABUNDANCE!

I think the Trump-haters here misunderstand something important about the man. He’s not nearly as clumsy, crude or hateful as he lets himself be portrayed. He’s a showman, and a TV star, and he’s playing a part, because he has a good nose, and he can smell the level of anger and fury in historical America as they finally realize (way too late, IMO) that their country has been stolen right out from under them. He’s tapping into that by playing this angry, ragin, over-the-top loon.

I promise you he is not a loon. (I’m not some rabid Trumpista, and I wish we had something better on offer, but we don’t.) I grew up in NYC, and I remember Trump being famous in 80s, and he was a bit loud, but he was also clearly quite thoughtful, and the man can accomplish things. Real, actual things. Buildings that actually work, unlike the ACA (well actually the ACA does work, because its real goal was not good health care, its goal was to steal even more to whites and give it to NAMs.) But recently on YouTube I saw an interview with him from the 80s, and he was soft-spoken, thoughtful, and very well-informed.

Pretty sure that’s the real guy under the mask. I almost hope not, b/c if it is, we’re gonna get sold out again.

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:00 pm

yes, it’s not new material,

http://spectator.org/39326_americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution/

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:02 pm

clean up over on aisle 21

pikachu not a fan of the ladies

other than eurotrash hookers

they’re okay i guess

trumpyfeet (471f83) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:03 pm

it’s goal is to make way for single payer, by attrition and deliberate action,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:03 pm

No more than a guy who supports a wall against Mexico will get a fair deal with a La Raza judge,

Liar.

Milhouse (87c499) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:03 pm

Trump did not have senile dementia in the ’80s.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:05 pm

No more than a guy who supports a wall against Mexico will get a fair deal with a La Raza judge, or a conservative 503c will be treated fairly by the IRS.

The two situations are NOT comparable. There is every reason to believe conservative nonprofits were targeted by the IRS, and an argument could be made that the Obama administration’s fingerprints are all over the actions of Lois Lerner, Steven Miller, John Koskinen, and their underlings.

There is NO credible reason to believe that Judge Curiel is picking on Trump because “I wanna build a wall … I wanna build a wall … I wanna build a wall….”

Even if one argues that Judge Curiel’s membership in a Latino attorney organization might show bias, Trump’s lawyers would have a problem: they’d be arguing that the alleged bias didn’t arise until long after Judge Curiel started hearing the case. Trump’s argument, to the extent it can be nailed down, is that Trump wants to build a wall and Judge Curiel is a member of a Latino organization and therefore Judge Curiel is biased. But Trump didn’t start talking about building a wall until Judge Curiel had already been hearing the case for years. In general, a party can’t manufacture bias through new conduct after the judge has been assigned. That stops parties from judge-shopping. So, for instance, if I don’t like how my case is going before a Turkish-American federal judge who is a member of a Turkish-American group, I can’t force a judge-switch by becoming a loud advocate for official recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

Much more here. You need to stop falling for Trump’s hypnotic dumps and learn the facts.

L.N. Smithee (b84cf6) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:05 pm

when it all falls when it all falls down

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:09 pm

right, and judge walker he meant well, so did every prosecutor except bottini, who couldn’t handle what he had done in the stevens case.

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:13 pm

I think the Trump-haters here misunderstand something important about the man. He’s not nearly as clumsy, crude or hateful as he lets himself be portrayed. He’s a showman, and a TV star, and he’s playing a part, because he has a good nose, and he can smell the level of anger and fury in historical America as they finally realize (way too late, IMO) that their country has been stolen right out from under them. He’s tapping into that by playing this angry, ragin, over-the-top loon […]

But recently on YouTube I saw an interview with him from the 80s, and he was soft-spoken, thoughtful, and very well-informed […]

Pretty sure that’s the real guy under the mask. I almost hope not, b/c if it is, we’re gonna get sold out again.

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:00 pm

This is not the first time I’ve heard that garbage. Ben Carson and Rudy Giuliani have both said similar things. It’s as if Trump is Michigan J. Frog, the legendary one-shot Warner Bros. animated character, who looked like an ordinary amphibian, but sang and danced like a Broadway star just as long as only his owner was watching him. As soon as someone else was present, all the frog could manage was “R-R-R-RIBBIT.”

This marks the first time in American history that a Presidential candidate is being marketed as the opposite of who he “really” is. Think of it — they’re asking you to vote for a man they admit is two-faced because they believe the face you don’t see is the one you’ll end up loving.

It never ceases to amaze me how this guy gets people to delude themselves.

L.N. Smithee (b84cf6) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:22 pm

Does anyone on here believe they would get a fair shake in front of a leftist judge, be he black, white or orange? We know how the 4 leftists on the supreme court will vote, constitutional issues be damned. Making the issue about ethnicity is useless. It’s about leftism.

If we had a conservative congress and conservative president, but 5 leftist blacked robed thugs on the supreme court, does anyone doubt they would overrule every conservative law passed? Would they rule deportation is unconstitutional? How about restrictions on abortion? Religious freedom in public places? And on and on…

The left doesn’t care about the law any further than they can use it as a weapon with which to cudgel us. That’s all.

njrob (578314) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:23 pm

as opposed to who you want to risk putting in office, that has been cavalier with people’s liberty, under cover of law from watergate to travelgate to benghazi,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:24 pm

no, and we can the see the example with berlusconi, the best analog for trump, they went after him for 20 years, off and and, a whole passel of cases, the legal commissars, went to bat for an egyptian terrorist who was sending martyrs to die in iraq, they didn’t care about the consequences,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:28 pm

this was the result, in part of relying on the solon (biden’s) judgement over petraeus,

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/06/state-notes-severely-degraded-al-qaeda-operated-large-training-camp-in-afghanistan.php

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:30 pm

You really want to compare Trump to Berlusconi? Everybody knew he was a buffoon but they elected him because “we need a businessman” and he ran Italy into the ground.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:31 pm

redstatetrash gonna trash-it-up red-style

redstatetrash-dot-com

eric erickson – is he a cnn bought and paid for sleazy cheesy garbagemonkey

did we always know it from the beginning

when slutty eve ate the slutty apple and eric erickson was like hey hoochie where’s my cut

i is from the south so pay up?

yes

we knew this all along

happyfeet (831175) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:33 pm

“This is not the first time I’ve heard that garbage.”

I may well turn out to be wrong, but I’m certainly not spouting garbage. Just look at the company I’m in, by your own admission: a neurosurgeon who doubtless conversed much with Trump in the green room before debates, and the man who saved NYC, who doubtless had many dealings with Trump on account of his real-estate métier. I’d say not too shabby.

Your Michigan J. Frog analogy is completely off target. My suspicion is that if elected, Trump will necessarily soften somewhat out of the need to do business, and will be blocked and thwarted at every turn by the permanent leftard bureaucracy. If he builds even part of the wall, ends Muslim immigration, and deports even a healthy fraction of the illegals, I’ll consider him a huge success. He won’t roll the gun-control boulder up the hill, either. Everything else, he’s a loose cannon, esp on foreign policy. But the man’s in a highly collaborative business, he’ll have the horse sense to surround himself with a good team.

Look at it this way: if Hillary wins, the white population will realize they have been permanently crushed, and we are on the path to civil war. Trump’s our last shot. I wish we had better, but as Shakespeare said, “There’s small choice in rotten apples.”

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:41 pm

the socialist/christian democrat co dominium has broken down, the communists now as PDS were on the verge of taking power,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:42 pm

Which is to say, I think Trump is a salesman, not a hypocrite, and he recognizes that different customers want different things. I don’t think he’s an ideologue or a keen political theorist, he’s more like a building inspector who sees a shitty job has been done, and chews out the contractor very loudly to make sure his point has been made.

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:47 pm

Baby moose going all wobbly.

papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:48 pm

well it would probably be as bad as michael foot or tony benn, that’s as far left as one could see back in the UK 70s, she’s not as crazy as corbyn, but close to john macdonald,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:50 pm

Trump is right, the judge should not have allowed the case to go forward after the plaintiff withdrew.

ropelight (596f46) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:56 pm

What’s this “we” s***, Christoph? You’re a Canadian.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:56 pm

Look at it this way: if Hillary wins, the white population will realize they have been permanently crushed, and we are on the path to civil war. Trump’s our last shot. I wish we had better, but as Shakespeare said, “There’s small choice in rotten apples.”
it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:41 pm

Yep, it’s Christoph, the AB wannabe. I’m not full-blood Aryan. And anyone who wants to cry out for Aryan Brotherhood needs to rot from the ground up, because they’re already rotting from the top down.

John Hitchcock (a9b2a3) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:01 pm

Is that the plaintiff whom Trump sued for defamation for bringing the lawsuit, a trick he learned from Roy Cohn? The plaintiff who won the defamation suit and whose legal fees Trump had to pay to the tune of $1 million? That plaintiff? If I had been the judge, I would have locked Trump up for six months for direct criminal contempt for trying to intimidate a litigant before me with collateral lawfare, and if it had not been a class action I would have entered default judgment in her favor.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:02 pm

yes, hoagie, even here they didn’t give much note to this, or midway two days ago,

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/

we must hunt the white whale, that is the important thing,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:13 pm

Donald Trump is the offspring of an Oompa Loompa and Veruca Salt.

John Hitchcock (a9b2a3) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:13 pm

So gross. “Hey guys, I’m just gonna try to slip a ‘hey we the white population…’ in at the end of my comment, no need for concern”:.:

Gross. Gross, dude.

Leviticus (4d962d) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:16 pm

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/05/milblogs.html

It’s a hint.

nk (dbc370) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:17 pm

“I’m not full-blood Aryan.”

Oh, don’t be a silly goose, this is not about “full-blood,” or the AB, it isn’t even about race, it’s about ecology. There’s a reason they don’t store foxes in henhouses, but of course humans are more complex. Scale matters. Balance matters. Read Wendell Berry’s “Home Economics: 14 Essays” some time. (Oh noes! I just used the number 14! I’m a Naaaaaaazi!)

Come on, this is no time to be simplistic. Isn’t that why you guys hate Trump so much? It’s a blog, of course, so brevity is a necessity. But all this knickers-in-a-twist stuff every time someone brings up some dimension of realpolitik, this is why we can’t have nice things. Or ideas. Or societies.

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:17 pm

No, Christoph, protecting the almighty white race from being poisoned by the likes of me is not something I’m interested in ever doing. Take your Storm Front garbage elsewhere. This Jew-loving, black-loving, Asian-loving, Indian-loving, Hispanic-loving mixed-breed is not buying.

John Hitchcock (a9b2a3) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:25 pm

yes, lebensraum, the sort of thing we did this to prevent,

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=66153

the problem are knaves like lurch and red queen and newsom, who destroy all that came before, so there is no foundation for immigrant or native born,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:26 pm

nightosphere,

F*ck you for poisoning Wendell Berry’s message of love and community with an appeal to racial division and support of Donald Trump. Shameful and transparent perversion of a loving message.

Leviticus (4d962d) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:29 pm

L.N.Smithee nailed it

SPQR (a3a747) — 6/6/2016 @ 9:51 pm

I agree, SPQR.

You have to vote for the candidate to find out what the candidate is all about. Straight out of Pelosi’s playbook.

Dana (0ee61a) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:06 pm

Trump is right, the judge should not have allowed the case to go forward after the plaintiff withdrew.

No, he is wrong. The decision was a no-brainer. There isn’t a judge in the country that would have granted Trump’s motion. When have you ever heard of a case being cancelled just because one plaintiff withdrew? Let alone in these circumstances where the reason for her withdrawal was proven harassment by the defendant?

Milhouse (87c499) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:08 pm

RIP Kimbo Slice – heart failure.

ropelight (596f46) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:24 pm

remind me, who he is, he sounds vaguely familiar,

meanwhile, the actual fraud that is the clinton foundation, that no contributor complains because it is like one armed bandit, that doesn’t get a lawsuit,

narciso (732bc0) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:35 pm

Kimbo Slice was a Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) feature fighter.

ropelight (596f46) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:44 pm

Arkacide is particularly prevalent among those who complain too loudly about being ripped off by Bill and Hill. Chelsea too, her husband’s hedge fund just went belly up and cost investors big time.

ropelight (596f46) — 6/6/2016 @ 10:59 pm

Ace is one of the few making sense of Trump, Trumphilia and the entire election cycle.

Despite being roundly criticized, the “Mexican” judge issue is just another example of Trump pushing the debate in a much needed direction.

Tomorrow I vote for Bernie!

ThOR (c9324e) — 6/6/2016 @ 11:24 pm

“and behold, every man’s sword was against his fellow, and there was very great confusion.”

I don’t know why but the times look biblical to me.

Roy Lofquist (6e7240) — 6/6/2016 @ 11:30 pm

A realignment was far overdue. The problem has been here for some time. The Tea Party tried very hard to make it happen along the best lines — drive the statists out of the GOP, but the statists won. Too many people want the government to provide stuff and tell [other] people what to do.

So now we have a dispute among statists. Normally the Democrat’s domain, but it seems to be going to be a fight between the Social Justice State (Hillary) vs the Newer Deal State (Trump). Neither one is a particular friend of liberty, although the edge goes to Trump since he’s more authoritarian than totalitarian.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 1:45 am

I would like to see the following Constitutional Amendment:

“Each state ballot for President and Vice-President shall include a choice of “No electors.” Should no candidate have a majority of electors, the House of Representatives shall elect a President, from such candidates as it might seem to them prudent.”

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 1:55 am

I’m starting to have second thoughts about this Donald Trump guy

Come to the Dark side.
We have cookies!

Angry Webmaster (c2a001) — 6/7/2016 @ 2:44 am

judges judge
right or wrong
live with it
or appeal
I thank God for a process that corrects judges errors.
It works, trust me.

mg (31009b) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:00 am

I can’t force a judge-switch by becoming a loud advocate for official recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

Two or three things:

1) Trump is only complaining about the judge. He is not trying to switch the judge – most people may not be aware even that sometimes that is possible, although not really here. Trump doesn’t actually want the judge off the case – he wants to make an meta argument that the case is without merit, but the judge is biased against him.

Trump is trying to argue that there is no case as part of his counter to any attempt by the Clinton campaign or anybody else to make an issue out of it. He needs to keep the same judge on the case in order to make the argument that his whole problem is the judge, since no other judge, except maybe one strongly biased in his favor, would grant most of his motions either.

Trump’s whole argument is based on most people whom that argument reaches knowing practically nothing about the case. It’s a meta argument. The whole idea is that they should not bother to pay attention, because it is all “bias”.

He is hoping that, for many people, the claim about bias is the only thing that makes it through all the noise – that that’s the soundbyte they’ll hear, and that’s what they will remember. And even if people don’t believe that, they’ll think it is possible, so it becomes a non-issue for them.

2a) This not knowing anything includes also not knowing how long the judge has been handling the case.

AND

He’s also counting on:

2b) People not knowing that Trump has not been a hardliner on illegal immigration for more than about a year. (He sounded quite different one time when made a post-mortem analytical comment on the 2012 election.)

AND SO people won’t know:

2c) That some or most of the rulings he complains about predate any time the judge could have been strongly biased against him for the alleged reasons, because they came when he was neither a presidential candidate nor a hardliner on illegal immigration.

Now the grounds on which, according to him, that the case should have been dismissed, are highly technical, but he wants people to think it is related to its merits, so he also makes an argument about the merits. (primarily that people signed statements that they were satisfied. Of course, these were solicited; people were in many cases told that the jobs of the teachers depended on getting good ratings – which was even true; the teachers often knew what was being written; it was couched in terms of being satisfied with the quality of the presentation, and not tha value of the course; they had no chance to know yet that all of this was 95% useless; there were still unfulfilled promises of personal coaching and so on, and they didn’t want to cut themselves off from the assistance promised.)

Trump also has technical grounds on which the judge should have recused himself – one of the plaintiff’s lawyers is a fellow former federal prosecutor. That’s supposed to be further evidence of bias.

The people interviewing him usually just don’t know enough about the case to cross-examine him about what he is saying, and most of the other people involved in the case have ethical or legal duties, or prudential reasons not to comment, but some have, but it’s not a point by point and on the spot rebuttal.

Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:10 am

Romney’s retreating republicans love being sissy losers.
This country has little chance to man up and save this once great nation.
Thanks for quitting, you gutless hacks.

mg (31009b) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:26 am

Where are the Republicans?
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/twa_800_the_great_untold_story_of_our_time.html
Under the covers, stroking it.

mg (31009b) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:40 am

24. …I think the Trump-haters here misunderstand something important about the man. He’s not nearly as clumsy, crude or hateful as he lets himself be portrayed. He’s a showman, and a TV star, and he’s playing a part, because he has a good nose, and he can smell the level of anger and fury…

it came from the nightosphere (cacaf3) — 6/6/2016 @ 8:00 pm

No, that’s not what he’s smelling. He’s smelling suckers that the can take advantage of. And then give the Trumpkins the finger after he banks their votes just like he did to those people he ripped off at Trump U. after he had banked their money.

Hoagie, I hate to put it that way, but people need an intervention about Trump.

No more than a guy who supports a wall against Mexico will get a fair deal with a La Raza judge

Have you people ever read any of this judge’s rulings? Trump has you guys wrapped around his little finger. If he had any evidence that this judge had treated him unfairly there’s a process by which he could ask the judge to recuse himself or to disqualify the judge. There are millions of civil suits in this country every year and the proper process to deal with the kind of complaints Trump has about this judge is not to go to the press and howl.

That is, if you have legitimate complaints. Trump doesn’t, but he knows his supporters are enablers aren’t smart enough to know this.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/05/should-judge-trump-university-case-recuse-himself-alberto-gonzales-weighs

…Donald Trump is under fire after pushing for the federal judge presiding over the fraud lawsuit against Trump University to recuse himself because of his Hispanic heritage.

Trump has claimed that U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel, whose parents were born in Mexico, is biased against him…

That’s All Trump can accuse Curiel of. He will never get Curiel disqualified because Curiel has never been unfair to Trump. All he can accuse Curiel of is being Mexican and belonging to a local Mexican American legal society with La Raza in its name. These are nowhere near legitimate reasons to remove a judge. Trump knows this, but Trump knows none of fanbois will do even the minimal digging to find out he’s lying. And destroying people’s lives. But Trump enjoys ruining people’s livee. He loves stealing people’s houses and other property using the politicians he brags about buying. And he loves to use the courts to ruin people’s lives (we’ll be back to that in a second).

So Trump goes on TV and lies about Curiel, smears him, knowing full well Curiel can not respond. And Trump doesn’t restrict his lies, smears, and character assassination to the judge.

The lead plaintiff in one of the lawsuits, Tarla Makaeff, was removed by her own request. Trump is running around and lying about her, saying she was a disaster, had no case, and that means the whole case should have been dropped. And since Curiel didn’t drop the case that means he’s biased.

If the latter statement were remotely true, then his lawyers would have asked the judge to recuse himself or moved to disqualify him. The reason that Trump is bellowing about it to the press and not using, you know, the actual procedure is because he is L.Y.I.N.G.

Here’s the real story:

http://www.casp.net/uncategorized/makaeffs-anti-slapp-motion-finally-granted-in-lawsuit-against-trump-university-anti-slapp-statute-still-applicable-to-state-claims-in-federal-court/

In 2010, Tarla Makaeff (Makaeff) filed a deceptive business practices class action lawsuit in federal court against Trump University (Trump), alleging that Trump never delivered on its promises of the scope and benefits of the program that lured her into paying nearly $60,000 in tuition (essentially arguing that Trump was an “elaborate scam”).

Trump then filed a counterclaim for defamation against Makaeff, based on statements that she had made about her experience with Trump on the Internet. Makaeff filed an anti-SLAPP motion to the counterclaim, in which she argued that Trump was a public figure and that Trump must prove she acted with actual malice in order to prevail on its defamation claim (a high burden). The district court held that the anti-SLAPP law applied to Trump’s claims, but denied the anti-SLAPP motion because it found that Trump was not a public figure and therefore did not have to show actual malice, and Trump had shown a probability of prevailing on its claim.

Makaeff appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which agreed that the anti-SLAPP statute applied, but held that Trump was a limited-purpose public figure and therefore must show by clear and convincing evidence that Makaeff made her statements with actual malice. The Ninth Circuit remanded the case for factual findings as to whether or not Trump could meet this burden…

Needless the say the only malice was Trump’s he and his lawyers put Tarla Makaeff through hell. They told her they’d ruin her life and bankrupt her no matter how long it took. As soon as Trump lost the anti-SLAPP case, do you know what they did? They told Makaeff they were going to do it all over again.

Donald Trump is just Brett Kimberlin with deep pockets and better adresses.

Makaeff had had enough, what with all that and the Trumpkins stalking her and leaving death threats.

But now Trump is smearing her and saying she’s a disaster, never had a case, Trump was right all along.

This is classic Trump. When Trump rips one of the little people off or tries to steal their house or property by having one of his pet politicians condemn it, the little people aren’t supposed to stand up for themselves. If they do, the thin-skinned narcissistic megalomaniac (do we really need 12 years in a row with one of those?) does everything in his power to destroy them.

That’s who he is.

Everything this guy is saying publicly about the case is a lie. That’s one of the reasons why he’s acting so “clumsy, crude [and] hateful as he lets himself be portrayed.” He’s a not a “showman” he’s a con man. Exactly what he’s been accused of. So he is making a public spectacle. Which he wouldn’t need to do nor would any smart man, and I never thought Trump was a stupid man (well, he’s not stupid as long as he’s interested which usually involves money). But he believes his followers ares stupid. And racist. Hence he’s making this all about the Mexican judge. Because “Mexican,” he believes, will work better than squirrel or shiny object for what he thinks are his racist followers.

Remember how he refused to immediately condemn David Duke? He needs their votes.

And Hoagie, you know this guy is an @$$hole. You’ve said so yourself. Don’t fall for his public sob story and foot-stomping tantrum that he isn’t getting a fair deal from the “La Raza Messican judge” because he wants to “build a wall” (Trump used to use “build a wall” as his version of “squirrel” and liked to joke about how it distracted the Trumpkins).

He is getting a fair deal. The judge is being absolutely impartial with both sides. That’s the problem. If that keeps up, Trump is screwed. He’s guilty as sin. So he needs an unfair deal, and he’s doing what he’s doing to shake one out of the trees.

Both of these people are worse than we thought. They are probably worse than we can imagine. Never have two such totally depraved human beings sought the presidency.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 4:32 am

1) Trump is only complaining about the judge. He is not trying to switch the judge – most people may not be aware even that sometimes that is possible, although not really here. Trump doesn’t actually want the judge off the case – he wants to make an meta argument that the case is without merit, but the judge is biased against him.

Trump is trying to argue that there is no case as part of his counter to any attempt by the Clinton campaign or anybody else to make an issue out of it. He needs to keep the same judge on the case in order to make the argument that his whole problem is the judge, since no other judge, except maybe one strongly biased in his favor, would grant most of his motions either.

Trump’s whole argument is based on most people whom that argument reaches knowing practically nothing about the case. It’s a meta argument. The whole idea is that they should not bother to pay attention, because it is all “bias”.

This is all very true, Sammy, and it dovetails with what I was typing while you posted it.

When I said Trump would be screwed, I meant politically. Trump will probably settle. Whatever the judgement might be he can afford it. But he’ll probably settle for less and claim he had to because he’d never get a fair deal from a “La Raza Messican” judge.

The Trumpkins will buy it.

He’ll never try to actually get Curiel removed because if he tried to go through proper channels he’d failed, and the process would be exposed as fair.

He can’t let that happen as that would expose him as exactly the fraud he’s trying to pretend he’s not.

So he’ll keep squeeling like a stuck pig and his Trumpkins will forever be convinced Trump is their BFF who got shafted by the system.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 4:41 am

#2 That happened some time ago on the Coasts.

Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:36 am

So let me get this Curiel is not biased? LOL!!!!!

Regardless of the merits of the case, Curiel is sold out 199% just like the Gay Judge in CA who allowed for Gay Marriage then came out Gay later claiming he was not biased.

Beyond stupid to not think them biased.

Lawyers, please stop pretending you, and your Judges, are any better then the gutter rat making a living selling dope. You have Agendas and engineering your reasoning around that Agenda.

Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:40 am

Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:10 am

You’re on the mark with most of what you wrote.

If you go to my link, it goes to Ken “Popehat” White’s blog, and he makes the point that while Trump is whining about Curiel being biased, he’s not actually directing his attorneys to go about the business of petitioning the courts for a new judge. The Armenian Genocide remark is White’s way of explaining to people who buy into his crapola why Curiel will continue to preside over the case regardless of whether he or not he wishes it would go away.

On the latest Kimberlin update, I mentioned that Trump reminds of people like the Speedway Bomber, who seem to believe that always being prepared to be the bigger a-hole is some kind of superpower. Trump once said he “whines until he wins,” and so does Kimberlin. I’ll say it again: Any person who seeks to destroy everyone who doesn’t love him is NOT someone you want in charge of government.

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:42 am

I thank God for a process that corrects judges errors.
It works, trust me.
mg (31009b) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:00 am

As long as you don’t run out of money on appeal. And have years to wait. And had the money to fight the appeal to begin with. And in criminal cases don’t mind waiting in prison.

L N Smithee @30 wrote,

There is NO credible reason to believe that Judge Curiel is picking on Trump because “I wanna build a wall … I wanna build a wall … I wanna build a wall….”

You need to stop falling for Trump’s hypnotic dumps and learn the facts.

First, I didn’t say the judge was “picking” on Trump. I said I don’t believe a judge should be a member of a racist (la raza “The Race”) organization. I don’t believe that judge can be objective. Would you feel comfortable with a judge who moonlighted as a Grand Wizard?

Secondly, I don’t know what you are inferring about me by saying I fall for some mythological “hypnotic dumps” by Trump but it behooves you, since you don’t know me, to understand I was for Cruz. But Trump won. And I find nothing hypnotic about him. Do you? And inferring I would “fall” for something is like saying I’m just too stupid to understand what you adults are talking about. I’m not. That’s the problem with you never Trump folks, one word in defending Trump and the speaker instantly becomes a knuckle dragging idiot because Trump!

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:45 am

Sad, people who call themselves Conservative don’t get (or care to) the Left. This is why they harp on Trump’s idiocies.

Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:46 am

Donald Trump is just Brett Kimberlin with deep pockets and better adresses.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 4:32 am

Great minds think alike. : )

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:48 am

74. In Texas, that thankfully seems to be limited to approving bonds for high school football stadiums plus a dash of OTF school infrastructure. Public schools have a glimmer of hope in Texas only because Catholicism was the oppressor’s faith at its infancy.

urbanleftbehind (5b0761) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:48 am

#76 Any person who seeks to destroy everyone who doesn’t love him is NOT someone you want in charge of government.

That describes the entire Democratic party yet you rail about Trump? Hillary especially.
.
.
Dear lord, Conservatives are more upset over a buffoon leading them than the consequences of their mortal enemies destroying them. This is what happens when the Lawyer Class has its way. They think the fight is with pens and paper and ignore the need for knives and simple concepts.

Rodney King's Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:50 am

I’ll say it again: Any person who seeks to destroy everyone who doesn’t love him is NOT someone you want in charge of government.

And I’ll say it again: Any person who seeks to destroy the Republic and create a dependent socialist state with them at the top is NOT someone I want in charge of government. And since we’ve watched the leftists Hillary represents exact revenge and punishment via government agencies already it’s safe to assume the beatings will continue until moral improves.

I’ll take my chances with Trump before I trust a communist.

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:56 am

*morale*, sorry.

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:58 am

For the record,
Again,
I will vote for Trump instead of Hillary because I know how bad she is and the party she represents,
That said,
Clinton may not be the Dem candidate and all of Trumps attacks on her could become meaningless in an instant,
And whoever replaces her will be just as bad for the republic but harder to beat.

And Trump is a terrible candidate,
Terrible in his past behavior as far as policy views he has espoused,
And he is terrible in terms of being the most disliked candidate ever.

He did a great thing in saying some things that gave voice to much of the frustration and anger that many feel,
probably the benefit of not having professional consultants telling him what to do.
It’s not July, and certainly not November yet.

MD in Philly (6d89d7) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:09 am

Criminals and frauds do not like the law, judges and lawyers. Quelle surprise!

nk (dbc370) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:23 am

And whoever replaces her will be just as bad for the republic but harder to beat.

MD, I agree with most of what you say, but I don’t think this is right. Hillary is especially corrupt and she doesn’t seem to really believe in anything. One of Trump’s biggest problems is that he recently thought she would be a great president.

If the democrats were smart, they would see this election as potentially pivotal and replace Hillary with someone palatable to the GOP, like a Jim Webb.

But even a Joe Biden isn’t really as bad as Hillary.

Dustin (2a8be7) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:24 am

There is not one person behind bars or ordered to pay a civil judgment who was not the victim of a biased judge. Not one.

nk (dbc370) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:25 am

I understand why people disagree about Hillary vs Trump. What I don’t understand is how anyone can be sure Trump is the best/worst or how Hillary is the best/worst. We will never know whether Hillary or Trump is the “better” choice because only one will win, and we will never know what the loser would have done as President. In addition, no one knows what the future holds or how either candidate will deal with future events.

We typically have a basis to evaluate what candidates will do based on their histories and characters, but both these candidates are horribly flawed and dishonest people. Choosing either of them is a gamble, not a choice. God help us.

DRJ (15874d) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:27 am

If Trump promised himself to 1 term at the convention, he’d lock this up regardless of any Torricelli maneuvering.

urbanleftbehind (5b0761) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:30 am

First, I didn’t say the judge was “picking” on Trump. I said I don’t believe a judge should be a member of a racist (la raza “The Race”) organization. I don’t believe that judge can be objective. Would you feel comfortable with a judge who moonlighted as a Grand Wizard?

Being a black man, I would not, but it’s NOT a parallel. La Raza, whatever it may be, is NOT the KKK.

Secondly, I don’t know what you are inferring about me by saying I fall for some mythological “hypnotic dumps” by Trump but it behooves you, since you don’t know me, to understand I was for Cruz. But Trump won. And I find nothing hypnotic about him. Do you? And inferring I would “fall” for something is like saying I’m just too stupid to understand what you adults are talking about. I’m not. That’s the problem with you never Trump folks, one word in defending Trump and the speaker instantly becomes a knuckle dragging idiot because Trump!

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:45 am

If you’re not “too stupid to understand what you adults are talking about,” I don’t know how you could go to my link and breakdowns here and elsewhere about the Trump U case and continue to repeat the La Raza stuff as if it wasn’t Trump trying to throw you off the scent of his fraud.

I don’t care if anyone was for Cruz if for all intents and purposes they’ve become a Trump apologist now, and that’s what you have become if you are accepting Trump’s premise that he is being treated unfairly for the reasons he’s suggested. If you want to make the case that Trump is a lesser evil than Hillary, I can accept that argument. I will NOT tolerate pretending he’s not the evil that he is.

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:31 am

So don’t. Who asked you to “tolerate” anything?

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:33 am

Nobody gives a rat’s backside about Trump U and Trump should shut his yap about it, if he can. As Gingrich said the other day, all Trump needs to do is come up with a half dozen folks who took the “training” and feel it was helpful. Shouldn’t be hard to do.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:38 am

Sad, people who call themselves Conservative don’t get (or care to) the Left. This is why they harp on Trump’s idiocies.

Rodney King’s Spirit (e2dd8e) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:46 am

“Harp on Trump’s idiocies” = “Accurately assess the situation and not pretend Trump knows what the hell he’s doing for the simple reason that he’s not Hillary”

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:39 am

Down with soap boxing and pounding podiums. Up with pounding sand!

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:39 am

LN Smithee makes a great point.

If you look into it, the lawsuit holds a lot of merit and Trump is in trouble unless he can show the con job was completely out of his control. So of course things are not going very well for him. That doesn’t prove the judge’s integrity, but the case going badly for Trump is probably because of the facts of the case. Trump freaking out about the case all the time is a bad idea, as Haiku notes, but if it’s not this case it will be one of the other many times Trump has done something dishonorable. The media is barely even getting started yet. I doubt we really see Trump hammered until after the convention, because they don’t want to implode him too early, when there’s still a glimmer of a chance the GOP picks a winner.

Dustin (2a8be7) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:06 am

Again, all he needs to do is find some folks who had a positive experience. There are no guarantees with education. And the law firm is a big Democrat contributor. And there never will be a shortage of people who pursue lawsuits with deep pocketed individuals.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:14 am

Dustin, who in the world does the gop(e) have that’s a winner. We have 15 losers from this campaign already.

Jim (a9b7c7) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:15 am

Many of you are feigning shock, finding that politicians are less than totally honest all the time? Well, here is an old quote from Will Rogers:

If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics.

Tillman (a95660) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:17 am

I have just now read a post from a poster I’ve never liked.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:23 am

Dustin, who in the world does the gop(e) have that’s a winner. We have 15 losers from this campaign already.

Jim (a9b7c7)

That’s the common issue when I complain about the GOP primary winner, and I’ve complained about the last three. They beat the other primary candidates, so that means the other candidates were losers, right?

Well no, that’s not really right. As you point out, the GOP field was very crowded. Name recognition and shock value got Trump a nice plurality over the other candidates, early on. Then the media found out his ridiculous behavior was terrific for their ratings and gave him billions in more coverage than anyone else.

Cruz would wipe the floor with Hillary because he can actually speak about conservatism in specifics, convincingly, off the teleprompter. He won’t change every mind, but he would change many, and the election would be a clear choice.

I’d be bitching about Rubio if he were the nominee, but he would be far more appealing in a general than Trump.

Jeb would be an unfortunate candidate, but he did run Florida pretty well, and that counts for something. I don’t think he would have won the general, though. Candidates that fail to really distinguish themselves from democrats seem to lose.

Walker would have been a terrific nominee, but was unable to make it work in that oxygen starved early phase.

Dustin (2a8be7) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:27 am

If you’re not “too stupid to understand what you adults are talking about,” I don’t know how you could go to my link and breakdowns here and elsewhere about the Trump U case and continue to repeat the La Raza stuff as if it wasn’t Trump trying to throw you off the scent of his fraud.

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:31 am

So I’m stupid if I “repeat the La Raza stuff”. Gee, I’m sorry. The “La Raza stuff” as you so smugly call it shows that a judge may be, and very well can be, going into a legal case/decision prejudiced against one of the parties because the judge has racist (The Race) ties. I am only pointing out what I would want for you, me and anybody: a judge who is not a racist. Is that too much to ask for Trump or does that make me some kind of Trump supporter? Or since you don’t like Trump he somehow does not deserve a fair trial before a non-racist judge?

I don’t care if anyone was for Cruz if for all intents and purposes they’ve become a Trump apologist now, and that’s what you have become if you are accepting Trump’s premise that he is being treated unfairly for the reasons he’s suggested. If you want to make the case that Trump is a lesser evil than Hillary, I can accept that argument. I will NOT tolerate pretending he’s not the evil that he is.
L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:31 am

If my desire for Trump to receive a fair trial makes me an “apologist” then your position that it’s just “La Raza stuff” would make you a Hillary operative. I have made the case that Trump is the lesser evil, in that very comment. I’m not asking you or anybody else to “tolerate pretending he’s not the evil that he is” although, I don’t think he’s the evil you think he is. I reserve that distinction for Hillary.

Too often lately on this and other conservative blogs people are being personally attacked for no more than trying to be fair and to turn down the volume of the never Trumpers. I was for Cruz but I would vote for Caitlin Jenner, a Republican, over Hillary if for no other reason but the down ballot wins and the judiciary. Hillary and Trump are both lousy (but I believe Hillary is a communist and therefore a million times worse than an idiot who is a capitalist) but we need to make sure we get state seats and Congressional seats and the Supreme Court and we won’t get that with you guys siding with the enemy.

I’m not a Trump apologist, I’m a Republican Party apologist worried we will loose everything because #neverTrump. That would be the ultimate cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.

Rev. Hoagie© (734193) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:29 am

yes yes

join the liberals man

we have lots of goldy sacks here

we have lots of woman hating here

we have lots of racists here

making liberal great again

sadfeet (e04f50) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:52 am

There you go again, Hoagie, saying what needs to be said.

Hillary! Clinton to the dungeon in 2016!

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:58 am

92. Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 6:38 am

Nobody gives a rat’s backside about Trump U and Trump should shut his yap about it, if he can.

He doesn’t have the serenity – or the training – of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton, of course, will never bring up the e-mails gratutiously. Or Juanita Broderick. And still less, Cattlegate (futures trading profits), or scandals most of the world has forgotten or never knew. But Trump can’t stand that there’s this potentially big argument out there against him.

Sammy Finkelman (eb1481) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:14 am

Trump’s lawyer:

June 6, 2016

Just three weeks before Donald Trump triggered a national firestorm over his claims that U.S. Judge Gonzalo Curiel was biased against him because of his Mexican heritage, his lead lawyer in the Trump University case praised Curiel for a “sound decision” and said he had no plans to file a motion for him to be recused.

“The judge is doing his job,” said Daniel Petrocelli, shaking his head, when asked if planned to seek Curiel’s recusal. “We’re not seeking to recuse the judge.”

The comments by Petrocelli, who heads the defense team for the presumptive Republican nominee, were made to reporters outside the federal courthouse in San Diego on May 6 (and videotaped by Yahoo News) after a key pre-trial hearing on the Trump University case. They got no national media attention at the time.

Trump: Waaaaaaaaah!

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:24 am

LN, tell me that this whole Trump campaign business does not sound like an attempt to (i) get HRC elected, and (ii) get the Right tarred as being racist yet again. The fact it, um, brings out the best in Trump supporters is only an added benefit.

This comes to mind.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/07/06/never-interfere/

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:34 am

“He doesn’t have the serenity – or the training – of Hillary Clinton. ”

But does he have the criminal nature of Hillary? And if that fingernails on a chalkboard voice of hers, much less the wicked witch of the east cackling is “serenity”, you can keep it, Sammeh.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:38 am

Any person who seeks to destroy everyone who doesn’t love him is NOT someone you want in charge of government.

L.N. Smithee (e92da8) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:42 am

Problem is, Hillary also resembles those remarks.

NJRob (a07d2e) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:48 am

“He doesn’t have the serenity – or the training – of Hillary Clinton. ”

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:38 am

But does he have the criminal nature of Hillary?

I don’t think anybody in politics comes close to either Bill or Hillary Clinton in that regard, or in their cover-up skills.

And if that fingernails on a chalkboard voice of hers, much less the wicked witch of the east cackling is “serenity”, you can keep it, Sammeh.

The yelling is on purpose – it’s her (or their) idea of trying to sound more sincere/convincing. Maybe her voice can’t handle it.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:38 am
But does he have the criminal nature of Hillary? And if that fingernails on a chalkboard voice of hers, much less the wicked witch of the east cackling is “serenity”, you can keep it, Sammeh.
Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:38 am

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:49 am

Off topic but somebody brought this up before.

I found this about Windows 10:

https://askleo.com/windows-10-behaves-like-malware

…Windows 10’s installation system is acting as if it were malware, or at least a Potentially Unwanted Program, a PUP.

It’s installing, and many people aren’t asking for it. It’s just installing without permission. Well, that sounds like malware.

It’s installing along with unrelated things via Windows Update by becoming a recommended update, I guess, is the change that they made. Well, that sounds like a Potentially Unwanted Program.

It’s installing, and essentially Windows Update is saying you should go ahead and install it, but you never asked for it, and in many cases there’s no “potentially” about it. You don’t want it; it’s an unwanted program.

But finally, it’s actually misleading people into installing Windows 10. And that’s the big news item this week. That’s the thing that, well, to me it’s the final straw. They’ve crossed a line. The issue is that in many cases, I’ll even say in most cases, I believe this to be true, it will now present this dialog box telling you that Windows 10 is ready to be installed, and when would you like to install it?

Now, there is … the issue is that we’ve been trained over the years, over many years, to when we see a dialog box like this, and we don’t want to act on it, or especially, if we don’t necessarily trust it, we close it. Well, if you click the little “x” in the upper right-hand corner, that does in fact close the dialog box. It closes that pop-up message that says Windows 10 is ready to be installed.

The misleading part is: it takes that as your approval to install Windows 10, and it proceeds with the installation.

In other words, closing the dialog box using the “close window” which 99.99% of all other applications on the planet means, “Don’t do this. Stop. Close. Go away. Cancel” whatever synonym you want, in this case, Microsoft has decided that it means, “Yes, please continue with the installation”….

…Another misleading part about that dialog box, by the way, is that if you look very carefully in the middle of it, there’s the hidden text that says: here’s how you cancel the upgrade, but it is in no way obvious….

….Now, I hesitate to say in Microsoft’s defense but I will at least in one point, and that is that while these tactics… like I said, they’ve crossed a line. They’ve gone too far. This is inappropriate for Microsoft to be doing, but I truly believe that they believe that this is the best thing for all of us.

They truly believe that upgrading to Windows 10 is in fact the correct thing for us. Even though many of us know that it is not for a variety of reasons….

….So, you need to take steps to prevent it. If you don’t want or can’t run Windows 10 on your machine, and you’re running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then you need to install and run either Never10 from GRC.com or GWX Control Panel. I’m actually running one of each. That Windows 7 machine that I was talking about, I ran Never10 on it. The Windows 8.1 machine runs GWX Control Panel. I want to keep an eye on both of those utilities to make sure they’re doing the right thing.

With those installed and properly configured, the Windows 10 upgrade is blocked, but if you don’t know that, then you don’t know that you need to install those utilities. I had a friend actually call me because her machine suddenly started installing Windows 10. She had no idea that this was going to happen. Probably either tried to close that dialog box with the “x” or did something else or didn’t do anything, and Windows 10 began to install.

Fortunately, very fortunately for her, the install actually failed before any damage was done, so I was able to then immediately get on that machine and I installed GWX Control Panel and the machine has been running, it’s a Windows 7 machine, it’s been running just fine ever since.

That’s what I recommend, strongly, that everybody do right now. We don’t care that Windows 10 is free at this point. We’ll talk about that another day.

Right now, to prevent Windows 10 from installing on your machine without your permission and perhaps even without your knowledge, you need to install one of these two programs: Never10 out at GRC.com or search for GWX Control Panel. I’ve got an article on it as well.

Or you could just keep using Windows XP.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 8:59 am

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redc1c4 (699d9e) — 6/7/2016 @ 9:05 am

Dustin, I live in Florida and liked Jeb when he was governor. He did do a good job. But, he was a republican then. I think he’s a democrat now. With his record and $150 million in the bank he couldn’t beat Trump. At one time I liked Rubio but then he got hoodwinked and joined the gang of 8. I lost confidence in his judgement. I loved Cruz and liked Trump because he talked about things politicians typical ignore or lie about. But, Cruz lost and Trump won. So, now I look at neverTrump and think 4hillary.
I’ve had conservative principals for as long as I can remember. I vote for politicians who claim to be conservative and the media claims are conservative and yet I get government constantly moving left. I no longer have confidence that a politician will do what they say…except maybe bernie. Maybe Trump will perform as promised.

Jim (a9b7c7) — 6/7/2016 @ 9:06 am

Trump U is hurting Trump because it makes him look shady, and that makes him look like Nixon and the Clintons. It is revealing that Trump has to talk like a racist to change the subject. It is even more revealing that he thinks talking like a racist is better for him than looking shady, but that’s the choices con men sometimes have to make.

DRJ (15874d) — 6/7/2016 @ 9:29 am

DRJ, I think that is the strategy being used: continually say outrageous, silly, or incorrect things so that no one of them can stick.

Listen to the man talk. He chooses one word that he repeats multiple times (even when it doesn’t fit in very well). That way, supporters have a rally word.

Yeeesh.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 6/7/2016 @ 9:31 am

And keep in mind that he doesn’t HAVE to do things that way.

He chooses to.

Simon Jester (c8876d) — 6/7/2016 @ 9:31 am

I had that happen and I believe it was Leviticus who pointed me how to uninstall Windows 10. That’s crazy, just installing something like it’s hacking its customers. I got it out but the whole episode was three hours I’ll never get back. The beauty was, they installed it in the wee hours of the morning.

96. Again, all he needs to do is find some folks who had a positive experience. There are no guarantees with education. And the law firm is a big Democrat contributor. And there never will be a shortage of people who pursue lawsuits with deep pocketed individuals.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 7:14 am

Actually, no, Coronello. This isn’t about “feeling” satisfied with whatever they got at Trump U. It isn’t about who had a positive or negative experience. To prove fraud the plaintiffs have to prove certain representations, promises, etc. were in fact false or misleading. Which shouldn’t be hard to do. For instance, was Trump University in fact a University. No. And Trump represented as a university. There is no question about this; Trump has already lost this aspect of the case years ago in New York.

http://www.thenationaltriallawyers.org/2014/11/donald-trump/

Two class action racketeering lawsuits and a lawsuit by the New York Attorney General have been filed against Donald Trump for swindling student-victims out of upwards of $35,000 each through their enrollment in his fictitious institution, Trump University.

The supreme court of New York ruled earlier that Trump University, now renamed Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, LLC, is liable for its violation of state education laws in its illegally calling the program a “university” without the appropriate licensure or accreditation and for allegedly defrauding students of $40 million.

“University” was “ivy league quality”…

Trump told the students certain things. For instance, he did represent his school as a university. He lied, and according to the NY courts he is personally liable now for those lies. That is an issue in the Kali class action suits, and Trump has already lost on that one. May I suggest you read the entire article. It may cut through some of the BS.

The bottom line is if I promise to sell you a Mercedes Benz S65 AMG at a certain price, Coronello, and I deliver a Volkswagen Passat I have defrauded you. You can sue me. I would lose no matter how many witnesses I dredge up talking about how much they like the VW and what a positive experience they had with my service.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 10:58 am

Actually Trump has already started an ad campaign doing just what you suggest, Coronello.

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/01/trump-campaign-releases-video-defending-trump-university…-scam/

…This video features three people – none of whom have ever bought or sold real estate for a living. One of them appears to be a professional testimonial-giver for seminars, one appears to give these kinds of seminars for himself, and one of them has an ongoing business and personal relationship with the Trump family, who have allowed him to sell his protein water on a number of their properties.

…One of the defining characteristics of these scam seminars is that they can always find people who will star in exactly these sorts of videos who will tell you how great the program has been for them.

This won’t fly in court. But it will fly with the Trumpkins, Coronello, in the court of TJW opinion.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:08 am

Anything associated with Schneidermann doesn’t pass the smell test, Steve. It very much does have to do with who had a positive experience, just as much weight as what’s given to people who claim they were defrauded. These are the tactics employed by the left. Always have been and always will be, and it’s a shame some good people buy into it.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:11 am

Good news! Punching back twice as hard…

“THOSE CASES ARE VERY HARD TO WIN, THOUGH NO DOUBT COPS WILL FARE BETTER THAN ORDINARY CITIZENS: Baltimore Cops To Sue Marilyn Mosby For ‘Malicious Prosecution.’ “

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:22 am

The Donald is attempting to get a number of issues thrown out of court as irrelevant, such as the fact that the BBB gave Trump U. a D- rating and the results of government investigations where the state AGs decided not to open civil cases themselves.

So then Trump can continue to lie about Trump U. in the court of public opinion.

For instance, he can say he had an A rating from the BBB (not after the complaints started rolling in). And that the fact the other AGs didn’t open their own cases proves these Kali and NY cases are baseless. Or something.

Which is ridiculous on several fronts. First, the AGs in those states that didn’t start their own civil suits never considered the complaints baseless. There are two reasons they didn’t start their own lawsuits. One is that Trump U. had to agree to stop operating in those states. This is an admission of wrongdoing on the part of Trump and his University. Second, the NY and Kali class action suits aren’t limited to the residents of those states. The AG in Florida has already stated that Florida didn’t start a lawsuit already had, and Florida residents can join it.

Low v. Trump University, LLC is certified as a class action suit in Kali, Florida, and NY, and Art Cohen v. Donald J. Trump is certified as a nationwide class action fraud/RICO lawsuit against Der Donald. They don’t need anymore.

What’s going on, essentially, is that Trump is defending himself and his university against these lawsuits with the same false and misleading claims that he used to sell his scam in the first place.

If you like having Presidents who sell things like Obamacare to the public with lies, and then tell the courts something different under oath, Trump is the perfect replacement for King Putt.

For those types.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:26 am

Why are you so violent, Steve?

JD (5a9bdf) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:28 am

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 4:32 am

Makaeff had had enough, what with all that and the Trumpkins stalking her and leaving death threats.

But now Trump is smearing her and saying she’s a disaster, never had a case, Trump was right all along.

I didn’t know these details, but just given what I do know, it would be the prima facie explanation as to why she dropped out of the case. Donald Trump never elaborates on what exactly happened with her. The people innterviewing him, of course, didn’t study up on this. It looks to me like Trump has unethical lawyers, because this sort of stuff is unethical, even if teh Bar Association would not say so.

Both of these people are worse than we thought. They are probably worse than we can imagine.

Willing to contemplate or to accuse maybe. Not imagine.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:29 am

119. It very much does have to do with who had a positive experience, just as much weight as what’s given to people who claim they were defrauded.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:11 am

Who did and who didn’t have a good experience isn’t the standard for proving fraud, Coronello. If that were true Bernie Madoff wouldn’t be in prison because especially the early “investors” had a good experience. That’s how pyramid schemes work.

And it isn’t a matter of claiming to be defrauded. They have to prove it. And they can, IMHO.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:30 am

“So, now I look at neverTrump and think 4hillary.”

Jim – that is a failing on your part.

JD (5a9bdf) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:30 am

Anything associated with Schneidermann doesn’t pass the smell test, Steve.

I wouldn’t trust the guy to decide the case either. But then, I can also say the same thing about Trump. That’s why we have judges. Note that no judge involved in the NY case is a Mexican or belongs to La Raza.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:32 am

Upper Middle Class Exodus from GOP Begins
—Ace

“Shades of Andrew Sullivan.

With Jay Nordlinger, a guy who writes mental doodles, essentially tweets puckishly, then puts those tweets together into a kind of Blog About Nothing.

I’ll take this as a kind of temporary provisional vindication — we’ll see if, per my prediction, this continues.

This isn’t a wholesale attack on these people. They were always the most likely to flip liberal, as they share the most assumptions of what the “Good Life” consists of with liberals, and count far more liberals in their circle of micro-culture-making close relations than the average Republican.

There’s a reason, after all, while the once GOP stalwart upper middle class counties around Philadelphia have been very, very liberal and Democratic for 15 years.

It’s also a note to the Trump people, who pushed Trump, despite my repeated warnings that if you do this, you will lose this quarter of the party. I don’t know how many times I cautioned that social status is incredibly important to people, and few will voluntarily undertake any action which results in a loss of social status.

Trump is unsophisticated and crude, and he pitches his appeal to the unsophisticated and crude. That doesn’t mean you’re necessarily unsophisticated and crude if you support him — Scott Adams, for example, is perpetually finding sophisticated and finely-made machinations in Trump’s unsophisticated and crude surface presentation — but that is definitely the tone of Trump’s appeal.

And people who consider themselves sophisticated — people for whom a sense of sophistication is important to their self-evaluation — aren’t going to buy into this bozo.

The GOP is fracturing, alas, on class lines, permanently and irrevocably.

Neither side feels like much like compromising. Trump, of course, could not compromise and speak (and think!) in a more sophisticated fashion, because he doesn’t know how.

This is going to be an extremely painful and emotional disaster — worse than it is now, as the actual divorce comes.

We’re right now in the constantly-finding-fault-and-denigrating-and-putting-down phase of the rapidly dissolving marriage. Seems awful, yes: But it will seem like “The Good Times” when the actual divorce comes.

At This Point… I’d bless the GOP just ignoring the voters and installing their own candidate as some kind of last-ditch attempt to keep the party intact with a compromise candidate of broad appeal.

But there are no compromise candidates of broad appeal.

If the GOP attempted to take Trump out, they’d do what they have long desired to do, just stick in a Comprehensive Amnesty Piece of Sh*t candidate over the protests of the voters.”

Even if it were Mitt Romney — a guy I’ve long liked and admired — I couldn’t get behind them just sticking in Mitt Romney. Because I know which version of Ideologically Flexible Mitt we’d get. We’d get the Pro-Amnesty Version that the Capital Class dreams of.

This is going to be a disaster. I think maybe it’s the wisest, best course to not get too hung up on horserace/story of the day crap, and maybe start focusing on long-term positioning and hashing out actual philosophy — what we’d like a party, optimally, to be.

This election is lost.

We can argue about who lost it — indeed, most of the passive-aggressive kneecapping from the more liberal-leaning, Rubio-supporting Upper Middle Class is about arguing, in a cowardly fashion, who lost it — and I imagine we will be arguing about that for quite a while.

Might as well stop being passive-aggressive about it and just come right out and say it. There is no party unity to pretend to be a part of any longer.

But more important than whose fault this is is what we’d actually like in a vehicle for ideological aspiration.

One thing I’d just love is if so-called conservatives weren’t as joyously SJW in pushing politically correct speech codes on everyone.

I’d like to see that.

You know, you don’t have to go full SJW to prove you’re not Alt-Right, right? You can strike a more nuanced position than the liberal extreme.

I could feel this coming for a while, but it really crystallized last week, when Trump supporters were openly attacked in the street and the agents of the state permitted it, and conservative reaction was… muted to openly supportive of the attacks.

When you’re that far gone emotionally — when you can’t even rouse a bit of fellow-feeling for people being attacked on the streets — you have checked out of any kind of “relationship,” be it personal or political.

People are still making excuses as to why they are talking nonstop about Trump’s Judge and can’t even talk about San Jose between breaths.

But they don’t need to make excuses, really. The reality is clear enough: they just don’t feel emotionally connected to the base of the party any longer.

Emotion is where all thought begins its life. And there’s just none of it from the “elite” (and I use that word advisedly) of the party for the base anymore.

The hatred is palpable.”

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/363913.php

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:34 am

122. Why are you so violent, Steve?

JD (5a9bdf) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:28 am

The nuns made me stay after class, and the only escape was the window using written violence to saw through the security bars.

Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:34 am

I agree more than disagree with that analysis.

Colonel Haiku (cdb06f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:36 am

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/07/trump-to-stop-talking-about-trump-u-case.html

In a long statement sent to reporters Tuesday afternoon, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said he will no longer comment on the fraud lawsuits against Trump University. In recent days, Trump has attacked the judge presiding over the case, Gonzalo Curiel, over his Mexican heritage—even claiming it is a “conflict of interest.” The decision comes just a day after Trump overrode his campaign staff and told surrogates to continue lambasting Curiel and reporters who question whether the attacks are racist.

Trump went after the media even further, portraying journalists as dishonest for “one inaccuracy after another” when reporting on the Trump University lawsuits.

“It is unfortunate that my comments have been misconstrued as a categorical attack against people of Mexican heritage,” Trump said. “I am friends with and employ thousands of people of Mexican and Hispanic descent.”

The billionaire businessman added that he was concerned over his ability to have a fair trial “given my unique circumstances as nominee of the Republican Party and the core issues of my campaign that focus on illegal immigration, jobs and unfair trade.”

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 2:15 pm

From this morning’s New York Times front page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/democrats-trump-presidential-race.html

Democrats Jump on Allies of Donald Trump in Judge Dispute Democratic leaders nationwide sought to exact a political price from Republican officials and candidates on Monday for continuing to support Donald J. Trump after his explosive remarks challenging the objectivity of judges with Mexican or Muslim backgrounds.

In an unusually coordinated series of attacks leveled from congressional offices and the Senate floor, in state capitols and sidewalk protests, Democrats excoriated Mr. Trump as racist and demanded that Republicans either stand behind his comments or condemn him and even rescind their endorsements of his candidacy.

Democrats received unexpected ammunition from Mr. Trump himself, who, in an extraordinary conference call with allies on Monday, urged them to defend his criticisms of a federal judge’s Mexican heritage — and then rebuked his campaign staff for having suggested otherwise..

But this afternoon, he reversed himself.

I couldn’t find a statement issued by trump, but the full statement is included here:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-releases-lengthy-trump-u-curiel-statement

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 2:24 pm

New York Times profile of Judge Curiel.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:25 pm

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/politics/donald-trump-university-judge-gonzalo-curiel.html?_r=0

Also, this is not the first judge that Trump in a case he’s involved in whom Trump has attacked:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/donald-trump-judge-history.html

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/7/2016 @ 3:26 pm

So let me get this straight:

1. A group of lawyers openly and loudly promises to destroy Donald Trump, using whatever means necessary.

2. A member of that group is a judge in a case involving Mr. Trump.

3. Said judge refuses to resign from said group or recuse himself from case.

4. And that’s OK here?

What say you, happyfeet!?

kobeclan (04a945) — 6/7/2016 @ 4:14 pm

Thanks for quitting, you gutless hacks.

We told you what would happen if you refused to find the center ground. Cruz wasn’t most of our first choices, he was just as close to Trump as we were prepared to go. You had to have it all you way, even though we TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER ……. AND OVER that it would not work.

You didn’t listen. We told you so. Don’t say we didn’t.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:08 pm

we wanted to vote for Mr. Cruz but he was nattering excitedly about bathroom trannies like a crazy person while Mr. Trump was talking about jobs

back away from the crazy person

that’s what america did

happyfeet (831175) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:10 pm

“As the father of daughters, I’m not terribly excited about men being able to go alone into a bathroom with my daughters,” Cruz told NBC’s Chuck Todd.

creepy dude

happyfeet (831175) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:13 pm

To everyone who says that Hillary is so bad that we have to accept the deeply flawed Trump:

Why? Why isn’t that instead a terrific argument for Trump to stand aside? Is Donald Trump such a hater of America that he would let his ego and pride and whatever-the-heck stand in the way of candidates who would be much more certain of beating her?

Here we have a man who — after he clinches the nomination — still has a third of the party opposed, not to mention ALL living presidents and the last nominee refusing to endorse. People who have endorsed him are having second thoughts as the REAL Donald Trump is no longer hidden by a deceitful media. It will not get better.

Why not choose someone else? Trump should withdraw, for the good of the party and the nation, and let the convention choose. Rubio. Cruz. Kasich (but please god, no). Someone else.

If the real danger is Hillary winning, why contest with a candidate who cannot get the votes of his own party EVEN when faced by the slavering Hildebeast?

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:21 pm

BACK IN 1962, IN THE DEPTHS OF THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS, BOB MACNAMARA SAID TO RFK: ‘WE CAN INVADE CUBA OR BOMB IT.” RFK REPLIED, “THAT’S SOME DAMNED CHOICE, BOB.”

I FEEL THE SAME WAY TODAY ABOUT MAUDE FINDLAY VS. THE GREAT WHITE DOPE.

SOME DAMNED CHOICE.

DCSCA (a343d5) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:23 pm

creepy dude

This from a Trump supporter?

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:23 pm

what you’re describing isn’t democracy it’s some vaguely euro idea what preferences the comfort of the harvardtrash elite over the vast majority of the trashy stupid cowardly tatted up domestic beer drinking failmerican people

happyfeet (831175) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:25 pm

What your describing isn’t being described with English.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:26 pm

nonono mr m

the pikachu has an agenda

https://patterico.com/2016/06/07/this-is-who-i-am-voting-for-today/#comment-1895199

its sad and smells like…well you know

pikachu has been watching that my bodyguard movie but not all the way through

but deep thinking is not his forte more like peanut blubber and cheetos

trumpyfeet (c8876d) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:34 pm

“134. … even though we TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER ……. AND OVER”

Trump got 11.5 million votes, plus however many he’ll get on June 7. For some reason these 12+ million people either didn’t hear what you told them over and over again, or they ignored you. Did you put out TV ads? Write on bathroom walls? Post on everybody’s facebook page?

I betcha that there were people telling YOU over and over again they YOU should vote for Trump. Why did you ignore them? Is it that everybody should do what you say and you don’t have to do what others say?

For as long as I’ve been voting there have been telling me to vote for X and not vote for Y. You are not a special snowflake. Your words are not any more special than all of these other people who’ve been telling me how to vote.

fred-2 (ce04f3) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:44 pm

For as long as I’ve been voting there have been telling me to vote for X and not vote for Y. You are not a special snowflake. Your words are not any more special than all of these other people who’ve been telling me how to vote.

fred-2 (ce04f3) — 6/7/2016 @ 5:44 pm

Part of the reason I voted for Cruz this afternoon.

Bill H (971e5f) — 6/7/2016 @ 11:18 pm

If Trump promised himself to 1 term at the convention, he’d lock this up regardless of any Torricelli maneuvering.

Who would believe him?

Milhouse (87c499) — 6/8/2016 @ 10:53 pm

6/6/2016

Hmmmm

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