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7/20/2015

The AP Just Can’t Figure This Out

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:49 pm



[guest post by Dana]

The AP remains confused about the Chattanooga shooter:

Bits and pieces have emerged over the past few days about Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez’s troubled life. But two significant pieces of the puzzle are missing: Why did he ambush two military sites, killing four Marines and a sailor? And was he propelled to do so by his own demons or at the direction of someone else?

Because a middle-class “clean-cut high school wrestler who graduated from college with an engineering degree and regularly attended a local mosque” couldn’t possibly be anything but depressed.

–Dana

44 Responses to “The AP Just Can’t Figure This Out”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. And was he propelled to do so by his own demons or at the direction of someone else?

    If the idiotic liberal who undoubtedly penned that report for AP ever comes across an Islamo-fascist in a dark alleyway, should I root for the liberal or the Islamicist? I guess I’ll be forced to draw straws.

    Mark (8126aa)

  3. Has there been any links to violent Islamics established?

    seeRpea (27b891)

  4. I’m most struck by the seemingly random nature of the attack itself. I mean, what do all the victims have in common?

    Dejectedhead (ba8561)

  5. I realize I was making a false differentiation between a lone-wolf terrorist and terrorist belonging to a structured group. To me I suppose a lone-wolf is a mass murderer but there really is no difference between that and a terrorist. hmm, maybe there is.
    belonging to a terrorist group would make me think intent was to spread terror, where as a lone-wolf would be out to kill as many as possible. splitting hairs?
    I wonder if the MSM went the ‘depression’ route due to the strawman argument that the Charlotte Church mass murderer was described as ‘depressed’ .

    seeRpea (27b891)

  6. 3.Has there been any links to violent Islamics established?

    None that any leftist would accept. I figure Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez was pissed about the removal of the rebel flag in SC. Or perhaps he was upset about SSM.

    Not a vile hater (f4eb27)

  7. Seems like it matters whether he was directed or not, whether there are other culpable parties. But not for some.

    nbf (4aae12)

  8. It is just as puzzling as the the limousine driver from Irvine who decided to shoot up the El Al counter at LAX in 2002. He was another nice man with a family.

    pulled out two Glock pistols and started shooting at the 90 passengers standing in the line. Initially, the assailant killed 25-year-old Customer Service Agent Victoria Hen, who was standing behind the counter, with a gunshot to the chest. Later, the assailant opened fire at the passengers as they huddled nearby and killed 46-year-old passenger Yaakov Aminov. In addition, he injured four other bystanders.

    What a puzzle !

    Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, was identified as the assailant. He immigrated to the United States in 1992, he arrived on a tourist visa but claimed political asylum.[4] In Egypt he was arrested for being a member of Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya, and Islamist group.

    Just another workplace violence,

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  9. The question is, what would leftist liberals say if a man named Muhammad carrying a rebel battle flag shot up an abortion clinic?

    I think their heads would explode.

    Dejectedhead (ba8561)

  10. re #9: leave out the flag, I could see that actually happening .

    seeRpea (27b891)

  11. they could fly the ISIS flag, and the media would still find a way to yell ‘squirrel’ there’s also the Empire State building shooter in ’97, who availed himself of the amnesty, the Iranian who ran over people in North Carolina,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  12. Perhaps it is the odd spelling of Mohammod, which actually means “the party of tea” in Arabic.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  13. AP… don’t forget the map, two hands and a flashlight.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. Couldn’t tip piss out of a boot the the instructions on the heel.

    Gazzer (ee3742)

  15. It would be easy to say something like: “What I can’t figure out is why you have these media companies, the federal government and local law enforcement all playing this game.”

    But that would be like assuming everyone in the world is too stupid to think.

    Hey, wait a second…

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  16. This is what happens when your mental logic has so many divide-by-zero and not-a-number bugs.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. These are the same people who have no problem, still, with #Handsupdontshoot

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  18. Just so you know, if this guy was a drug addict and/or an alcoholic then he’d be a sinner per Islam, an apostate or a hypocrite. If he didn’t believe he could kick the habit then the only way he could avoid h3ll and be guaranteed paradise is if he waged jihad. If he committed himself to fully embracing Islam, and got himself “martyred” before he could sin again then he could easily believe he’d enter paradise.

    He wouldn’t need to have to have been “radicalized” or have any contact with ISIS, AQ, etc. All he’d have to do is read the Ahadith and learn what Muhammad had to say on the matter.

    http://sunnah.com/bukhari/56

    56. Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)

    A couple of examples.

    (13) Chapter: Practising good deeds before taking part in a battle

    Narrated Al-Bara:

    A man whose face was covered with an iron mask (i.e. clad in armor) came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first? “The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Embrace Islam first and then fight.” So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, A Little work, but a great reward. “(He did very little (after embracing Islam), but he will be rewarded in abundance).

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2808
    In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 24
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 63
    (deprecated numbering scheme)

    (28) Chapter: A disbeliever kills a Muslim and later on embraces Islam

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “Allah welcomes two men with a smile; one of whom kills the other and both of them enter Paradise. One fights in Allah’s Cause and gets killed. Later on Allah forgives the ‘killer who also get martyred (In Allah’s Cause).”

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2826
    In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 42
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 80
    (deprecated numbering scheme)

    In the interest of being entirely fair to the Ahadith, there is one verse that implies Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez might not be be guaranteed paradise.

    (19) Chapter: The Statement of Allah Taa’la: “Think not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah as dead…”

    Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:

    “Some people drank alcohol in the morning of the day (of the battle) of Uhud and were martyred (on the same day).” Sufyan was asked, “(Were they martyred) in the last part of the day?)” He replied, “Such information does not occur in the narration.”

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2815
    In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 31
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 70
    (deprecated numbering scheme)

    I can still see this guy thinking, if he was even aware of verse 2815, that if he vowed never to touch drugs or alcohol again and sufficient time had passed between his last use or drink and his death then he would have died a good Muslim.

    You’ve got to understand that most Muslims don’t read their own sources. The two Sahihs, Sahih
    al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, are essentially equal to the Quran as a source of religious authority.

    In fact, the typical Arabic name for the majority sect of Islam, Sunni Islam, is Ahl al-Sunnah. Which means the adherents of the Sunnah, or well trodden path, of their warlord Muhammad. The Ahadith, or the collections of sayings, actions, approval, or disapproval of Muhammad, form the most important part of the Sunnah. The Sirah, or biographical literature forms the rest.

    Not the Quran isn’t mentioned.

    But even though Sunnis consider themselves adherents of the Sunnah, they hardly ever bother to find out what’s in it. They just take their sheikhs’ or Imams’ (an Imam is just a prayer leader and not really a religious authority but Muslims believe what they say anyway) word for it.

    And the popular understanding among the majority who accept the doctrine of jihad is that “martyrs in the cause of Allah” go to paradise regardless of their prior sins.

    Steve57 (7aa1f2)

  19. If I were on Fox or was Rush Limbaugh I’d never let these people who find it a complete mystery that a Muslim would attack a US military recruiting center forget that they immediately jumped to conclusions when some white guy shot up the AME church or Gabby Giffords pep rally or the Aurora CO movie theater.

    Right wing extremists. Roof is a racist, but no right winger. In the case of John Holmes they googled his name and found and reported a TEA Party connection.

    Wrong John Holmes. But why wait to check facts when it fits their paradigm, I suppose.

    But when it’s somebody named Nidal Malik Hasan or Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez we must never arrive at the obvious, 99.99% of the time correct conclusion.

    The narrative says these guys are victims of Amerikkka. You can’t let the facts get in the way of the narrative.

    Steve57 (7aa1f2)

  20. re #18: would have to see full context, but to an outsider as i am, it seems like a perversion of the Christian “indulgences” plus Grace. (“indulgences” in quotes since i don’t know what the forgiveness of sin in the eternal based on violent action in the now is/was).
    Something the Church did a great deal of themselves in the 500-800 period in Northern Europe.

    seeRpea (27b891)

  21. Wake the ‘eff up Amerikkka.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-20/martin-armstrong-little-little-these-people-are-destroying-everything-made-society-f

    Governments are skeered an’ cornered and a clear and present danger.

    DNF (208255)

  22. Chattanooga, Tenn. — Counterterrorism investigators are trying to figure out why a 24-year-old Kuwait-born man, who seemingly had a typical suburban American upbringing, attacked two U.S. military sites in a shooting rampage ….

    On July 11, Mr. Abdulazeez stocked up on ammunition at an area Walmart. Two days later, he wrote in his blog long entries on Islam, describing the world as a prison and cautioning, “Don’t be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by.”

    Just hours before the shooting, he sent a text to a friend with a link to an Islamic verse saying, “Whosoever shows enmity to a friend of Mine, then I have declared war against him.”

    Yet none of his known writings indicate actual plans for an assault, or the reasoning behind it, leaving investigators still searching for a motive.

    The man who authorities say killed four Marines in an attack on a Tennessee military recruiting center and another U.S. military site was a 24-year-old, Kuwait-born engineer who had not been on the radar of federal authorities until the bloodshed.

    Beyond that, little is known about Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez of Hixson, Tennessee, or what motivated his rampage. Federal authorities were looking into the possibility it was an act of terrorism, but say there is no evidence yet that anyone else was involved — or that the public is in any danger.

    Officials have said they do not know why the shooter targeted the Chattanooga facilities and have not said what weapons he used.

    from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-Chattanooga-marines-shooting/2015/07/17/id/657594/#ixzz3gWQNYUTF

    Even the exact spelling of his first name was not clear: Federal authorities and records gave at least four variations. Residents in the neighborhood where Abdulazeez is believed to have lived said they didn’t know him or his family

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. It’s a montage of “Iduhno”

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. There are three kinds of “Don’t know” operating here.

    1) The Actual investigators don’t have a specific motive. They don’t know if he was working alone, or under orders, if he planned it carefully, or just woke up one morning rabid. And they don’t like having their elbows joggled. So when anyone asks them “Why did he do it” they say “We don’t know”.

    2) The Administration doesn’t WANT to know. Obama and his flunkies aren’t particularly smart, aren’t especially flexible, and don’t really want to do any of the common sense things that would be a reasonable reaction to a Terrorist attack, like let the military carry guns. Why? Hell if I know; the convolutions of the Liberal/Progressive brain are often opaque to me. But they don’t want to know that this swine was an Islamic nutcase motivated by his religion, because knowing that would impel them to do something they don’t want to. And the investigators are giving them cover, so they’re using it.

    3) The Media genuinely DON’T know. Unlike the H.L. Menckens and Nellie Blys and Damon Runyans of a past era, todays reporters aren’t really very smart. They are ostentatiously better educated, by the lights of the Liberal Left, but they aren’t really what you could call THINKERS. They tend to parrot what they were taught in their very Liberal colleges, up to (and often past, truth be told) the moment when that narrative no longer stands up to even casual scrutiny. And when brute reality intrudes they may acknowledge it, briefly, but over time the narrative will reassert itself. They DON’T know that this is obviously an Islamic Terrorist attack, because all their programming tells them that that is a Racist and Judgmental position. That that programming is idiotic would never occur to them, because they have been programmed to believe that they are Smart and Educated (™). Hell, they wouldn’t KNOW that the 9/11 attacks were a terrorist attack if the people they have been told to accept as “Smart” hadn’t said so. They don’t know why this happened because know why this happened would call too much of their very artificial little world into question, and they don’t deal well with information that tells them they are ill-educated goddamned morons.

    C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc)

  25. Mr. Schofield, you provided the perfect breakdown of the the “Don’t Knows.” Only the first group are legitimate. The latter two, which horrifyingly includes our CIC, don’t want to know anything that would destroy the Narrative, “Islam = good, U.S. = bad”).

    Margaret (b5205a)

  26. #24: CSPS, This sort of obfuscation by the media has a long and distinquished history in the U. S. and elsewhere. The national socialists of Germany waged a cold war with the international socialists of Russia prior to WWII, and we were treated to the idea that the German branch of the conflict was “right wing” politically because Germany supported Franco in Spain. This completely neglects the similarities between the two contestants. The National Socialists were initially a response to the threat that the international socialists posed in the chaos of the 20’s in Germany. Adolf’s first job after WWI was to infiltrate international socialist meetings and identify the leaders to the Army. He found the atmosphere to his liking and turned the work and the basic ideology into a career. The “national” part of his socialism was a valuable distinction from the Soviet Communism that claimed worldwide leadership of all socialist movements.

    Associating the Nazis with “right wing” politics continues to this day. It is used to discredit all sorts of limited government, free market ideas despite the complete disconnect with national socialist ideology. But it is a useful tool for swaying the opinions of the simple-minded thugs who man the barricades in the leftist universe. It has also sown confusion in the ranks of RINO leadership who fear being called “right wingers” because of its (false) connection with the Nazis. Meanwhile, these RINOs are perfectly willing to execute “K” Street’s orders which forge a linkage between corporate interests and the government that approximates the arrangements that Hitler was fond of while he was still consolidating his power.

    Obola must think that he can create a similar logical quandary. If we can’t identify the enemy accurately and with precision, then the labels of “terrorist” and “enemy” can be applied as deemed necessary by political expediency. As muslim jihadi grow stronger and stronger, the goverment will use the fear they create to motivate more and more repression of their political enemies, veterans and the like, right wingers all. Notice how they have implanted the idea that arming our troops is tantamount to releasing homicidal maniacs into our shopping malls. Meanwhile, the homeland security appartus grows and metastisizes with its own brand of armed troops, most of whom are not trained to military standards. This will not end well.

    bobathome (f50725)

  27. The idiocy on display in the media regarding this act of murder is very much in keeping with that same media casually and blithely tossing out the importance of “who, what, when, where and why” of various crime cases if they involve perpetrators of a certain racial or ethnic background.

    Mark (8126aa)

  28. And was he propelled to do so by his own demons or at the direction of someone else?

    He was propelled to do so by the demons he allowed into his mind from the pages of the quran, the hadith, and the sura and by his murderous, pedophile-approving, misogynist, god, allah.

    PPs43 (6fdef4)

  29. These people may not “know” but they always know that when a black man is shot by a white officer, it is because of racism.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  30. re #31: oof, excellent point. really does take away the veil.

    re #29: the main point of the article has a valid argument but the comparisons to 1939 are way off. Are there enough Prince fans from 20 years ago to get the reference?

    re #27: having know some old Communists, it was not so much that the Natzis were ideological to the ‘right’ but that they were so bitterly opposed to Communism. Communism was definitely the ‘left’ and the opposite of ‘left’ is ‘right’. Things sort of got lost is translation later on.
    btw: all the old Communists i knew stopped being so when Stalin signed up with Natzis.

    seeRpea (27b891)

  31. Mr M wrote:

    These people may not “know” but they always know that when a black man is shot by a white officer, it is because of racism.

    Don’t worry, Mr M: our betters know better than we do, about everything.

    The pretty common Dana (f6a568)

  32. Re 32;

    I think a good deal of the “confusion” (ha) is because the Liberal Intellectual Radical Progressives desperately want to dissassociate themselves from a lot of things They supported pre-WWII that Hitler put the stink on. Eugenics, for example.

    C. S. P. Schofield (b906d2)

  33. re #34: the Planned Parenthood thread is over there. 😀

    seeRpea (27b891)

  34. seeRpea, the National Socialists were not opposed to “communism”, lower case “c”. They implemented a number of “workers’ paradise” programs, including Peenemunde, and they even made war on the Catholic Church when they felt they were in position to do so. For example, they would not allow the local Catholic Bishop to participate in the funeral of the Peenemunde workers killed during the RAF air raid in 1943. They were nationalist in the sense that they rejected surrendering their automomy to the Russians under the guise of joining the “international” communist movement. That, to true believers, was a crime, I’m sure. But the travesty is that the media used the true believer’s nomenclature to describe events, and that severely limited our ability to discriminate intellingently in the aftermath. Which is your point about the “old communists”, but that doesn’t really capture the extent of the deception. This is the same as Obola refusing to recognize what is right before his eyes. He needs a general purpose scapegoat, an amorphous, changeable opponent that can morph on command into his political enemies. So he rejects any specificity that would narrow the group of enemies. We know that veterans, tea party symphathizers, donors to various initiatives, and so on, are explicitly named as potential “terrorists”, and it serves his purpose if no specific group or idelology is held accountable for actual terrorist acts.

    bobathome (f50725)

  35. New Planned Parenthood video post up.

    Dana (86e864)

  36. Most of the MSM coverage I’ve seen takes great pains to highlight the killer’s comments disparaging ISIS as un-Islamic. What’s far less covered is what narciso highlights (from, in fairness, ABC News), namely that the killer probably disparaged ISIS because he had fallen in with al-Qaeda, which hates and probably envies ISIS.

    Mitch (341ca0)

  37. Well they can’t find a way to pin it on Republicans.. so it’s a mystery..

    Franklancer (bfd46d)

  38. narcisso @38, as you can see from my first comment on this thread this is a complete surprise. A bolt from the blue.

    Whodda thunk it?

    Steve57 (7aa1f2)

  39. Margaret,

    The thing is, this level of idiocy usually marks a social elite that is on its way out. Oh, they have plenty of power at the moment, but they aren’t reacting well to real conditions, and haven’t been for some time. Reminiscent of the Planter Aristocracy just before they started the worlds first industrial war without any industrial base against an industrial powerhouse. Or the Georgian British Aristocracy, who wasted a great deal of time and effort pretending that the Indistrial Revolution didn’t matter, what mattered was large tracks of semi-productive land.

    The breakdown is likely to be messy, and I am vervous that we may go Full Imperial in reaction to a Terror Attack (J. Christ on a flaming pogo stick, if there is a better way to end up with Mecca an uninhabitable sheet of glowing glass than attacking the United States, I haven’t thought of it.). But these bozos are playing out their last potiful decades of power.

    Hunker down. They won’t be long.

    C. S. P. Schofield (ab2cdc)

  40. Personally, the fact that the kid was a druggie does not seem incompatible with Islam in the least.

    The fact he was caught out in an America, the land where everything is illegal is an obvious impetus to righteous indignation.

    DNF (208255)


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