Ayaan Hirsi Ali To Joe Biden: Because I Respect The Office Of The Vice-President, I Will Politely And Graciously Refrain From Schooling You.
[guest post by Dana]
A funny thing happened when Ayaan Hirsi Ali met Vice-President Joe Biden: he wanted to straighten out her views of Islam.
In a recent interview, Ayaan Hirsi Ali discussed with sharp insight, the left’s willful and subsequently dangerous blindness toward radical Islam and the very real war on women:
They feel all religions are the same, and they’re not. I think if I adopt the position in good faith to multiculturalists and leftists, I would say [they take the position they do] because they see them [Muslims] as victims. They see them as victims of the white man and so they think: ‘Let’s protect them from the white man. Let’s protect them from capitalism.’… That is misguided at best and malicious at worst.
Wherever [Islamists] gain power, you see exactly what they do: The first thing they do is they chase women out of the public space, force them to cover up, beat them up, rape them, sell them into slavery.
Such violence against women needs to be exposed, and Western liberals need to “review their thinking.
Noted Islamic scholar Joe Biden begged to differ:
Hirsi Ali recalled meeting Vice President Joe Biden. He informed her that “ISIS had nothing to do with Islam.” When she disagreed with him, Biden actually responded: “Let me tell you one or two things about Islam.”
“I politely left the conversation at that,” Hirsi Ali said, to laughter. “I wasn’t used to arguing with vice presidents.”
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: steadily provoking liberals and feminists everywhere because girl doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (8e74ce) — 12/13/2014 @ 11:30 pmBiden is such an idiot!
Bill M (906260) — 12/14/2014 @ 12:02 amAyaan Hirsi Ali is a foreign black female.
Do you think the party of the Ante-Bellum South, Senator Grand Kleagle Byrd and Al Sharpton would respect her? They know what they know, and there is no way they will let facts change their minds.
rd (c5b5df) — 12/14/2014 @ 1:33 amIf she does respect the office of vice-president, she’s the only one.
The first one said, “My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived.”
A later one said, “Once there were two brothers. One ran away to sea; the other was elected vice president of the United States. And nothing was heard of either of them again.”
A much later one said being being vice-president was “not worth a bucket of warm piss.”
It is interesting to review the Constitution and The Federalist. In 1789 the Vice-President was whoever came in second in the Electoral College. In other words, the Vice-President was originally intended to be the leader of the opposition, which is why he was President of the Senate–more checks and balances. The most senior official in Congress would be a political enemy of the President.
I don’t know why this was abandoned–perhaps because the advent of the two-party system made governing this way unworkable. I think limited government might be more achievable if this had been adhered to.
I admired Dick Cheney’s handling of the office, acting as the President of the Senate in order to help Bush’s legislation and appointees get through. That was clever, to reactivate powers that had fallen into disuse.
Joe Biden has relationships with everyone in Washington–I wonder that he is not acting like Cheney did. Maybe Harry Reid doesn’t let him. Maybe Biden prefers to work behind the scenes. Maybe he’s too busy chamoising his Firebird or scavenging copper wire.
Gabriel Hanna (dcffe4) — 12/14/2014 @ 1:47 amJoe Biden has relationships with everyone in Washington–I wonder that he is not acting like Cheney did. Maybe Harry Reid doesn’t let him. Maybe Biden prefers to work behind the scenes.
Nah, he’s too stupid.
Bill M (906260) — 12/14/2014 @ 2:24 amHello.
Denver Todd (5f001f) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:08 amHello, Dana. Now that you’re here, let me tell you one or two things about childbirth.
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:12 amJoe Biden was disrespecting Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “experiential truth.” He was trying to “mansplain” Islam to her.
Pious Agnostic (69ea46) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:57 amI seem to recall Keith Ablow commenting on one of Biden’s performances thus: that if a patient of his talked like that, he’d do a dementia work up.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:11 amHas anyone got a source where De Blasio was said to have ordered a crack-down on illegal tobacco sales which might well have prompted the officers to arrest Garner?
It would be helpful to show that a left-wing liberal set in motion the course of events that lead to Garner’s death. I mean, credit where credit is due.
WarEagle82 (b18ccf) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:18 amOh, I realize my last post was kind of off topic but Joe Biden may be the stupidest person to ever serve as Vice President (and that says a lot about Joe Biden and the office of the Vice President) so I kind of assumed this was a parody post to begin with.
WarEagle82 (b18ccf) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:21 amHirsi Ali is wrong about the Liberals attitude toward Muslims. Liberals behave the way they do because they A: Want to hag out with the bad boys. B: Are scared to death of them.
f1guyus (647d76) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:27 amAyaan Hirsi Ali: steadily provoking liberals and feminists everywhere because girl doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
This is another illustration of why studies and surveys that reveal a higher percentage of people on the left compared with the right are personally exactly the opposite of what they believe their liberalism imbues in humans. Namely, that left-tilted biases makes a person less likely to be bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc.
Liberals at least were leaning in a direction that was somewhat in sync with their supposed humanitarianism when they bought into the lies of do-gooder Communism, the supposed “welfare for the common man” of the Iron Curtain, Cuba, Venezuela. But they’re also giving leeway to Islamo-fascism is why it’s not pure sarcasm to say that, yes, liberalism is a form of mental illness.
Incidentally, in alignment with this, I believe tax records for Joe Biden indicate he has been a cheapskate in donating to philanthropic causes through the years. Or putting his money where his mouth (and supposed do-gooderness) is.
Mark (c160ec) — 12/14/2014 @ 8:24 amOh, I realize my last post was kind of off topic but Joe Biden may be the stupidest person to ever serve as Vice President (and that says a lot about Joe Biden and the office of the Vice President) so I kind of assumed this was a parody post to begin with.
Well, there’s stupid (serial bad judgment) and unintelligent. Biden’s never held the sort of position where his bad judgments were all that obtrusive (although plagiarizing a law review article written by one of his professors under her maiden name and handing it in to her as his own work may indicate he’s unusually talented in that regard, as would be repeatedly threatening the Reagan administration that he would publicize covert operations he did not care for).
As for his intellectual level, he’s an unremarkable rank-and-file attorney who could not be bothered with law practice for more than a few years. Sometimes that sort of pol gets raked over the coals by the media (Dan Quayle), and sometimes they do not (John Kerry, Biden, Obama). They’re funny that way.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 8:31 am@14– Art D: Do you have a source or link for the Biden-law-article thing? I do not challenge your truthfulness; I know several people who need to know this s**t and I KNOW that I will be asked to show some sources.
Gramps, the original (9e1415) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:06 amWhat ISIL/ISIL/Daesh/whatchamacallit is doing in Mosul:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/14/world/islamic-state-imposes-strict-new-order-in-mosul-and-deprivation-is-a-result.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
Teachers, doctors, nurses etc are still being paid by the government. But they can’t get paid in Mosul. With teachers at least one person drives into Kirkuk to collect cash. An Islamic State fighter supervises the distribution of the money, and pockets cash of any teachers who have not shown up for work. At the beginning of the school year, ISIS gave an ultimatum, show up for work or don’t get paid.
In the schools, males and females have been split up. Girls before had grey skirts and blouses but were now told to wear black gowns and veils that covered their faces. Civics classes have been cancelled. Sports cancelled for girls. At the University of Mosul, the schools of Fine Arts, Law, and Political Science have been closed.
There are too few ISIS people to censor the textbooks or monitor the classes, and they mostly keep the sexes separate. One teacher says they are too occupied with the war and the most important thing for them is that acknowledge them as the government. The word “Iraq” is still in teh textbooks.
A 46-year female pharmacist put on a veil and stopped driving herslf to work, but this was not enough for them. The Islamic Police confronted her and asked where her husband was and why she didn’t cover her face. Her husband visited the Islamic Police and signed a statement that she wold stop working. But they hired a man to stay in front, while she secretly stays in the back and fills prescriptions for patients she cannot now see.
Gunman arrest people and they alwsys lie about what happened to the people arrested. One man’s father in his 60s was arrested and although they said he would be back in a few days nothing has been heard from since.
In Fallujah many residents have fled, and theer are few services of government besides the morality police. Recently some young men were castigated for swimming in the Euphrates River because they said, women could see them.
Back to Mosul: A new decree (this month) says anyone who leaves their territory needs aguarantor that he will come back, and if not the guarantor can be arrested.
Because it is occupied by ISIS, Mosul has no car bombs exploding. The first thing ISIS did when it got there is remove the barriers, so if it retaken, the car bombs will be back, with no protection.
Electricity has been cut off for months, and the water is no longer potable. It is now chlrinated, or boiled or filtered through rugs by the end user. Fuel for cars and generators comes in by truck but it is expensive and the streets are filled with black smoke. Food prices are high because the Islamic State imposes taxes on trucks that enter their territory.
The group’s fighters have become less visible since U.S. bombing started in August. They drive civilian cars. They are living in houses vacated by Christians and Shiites. Dozens of fighterds are sleeping in an historic church, a place they figure the United States is unlikely to bomb.
This New York Times article is datelined Erbil. Information was collected by interviewing 15 people inside Mosul by telephone. Their full identities have been withheld, and I guess they must be hoping that it is not too efficient a police state.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:26 am@14– Art D: Do you have a source or link for the Biden-law-article thing? I do not challenge your truthfulness; I know several people who need to know this s**t and I KNOW that I will be asked to show some sources.
Newspaper reports from 1987 should do, available on Lexis-Nexis. It was one of the minor scandals which torpedoed his presidential campaign. The coup-de-grace was an amusing videotape assembled by John Sasso, Michael Dukakis’ campaign manager. It showed a split-screen of Neil Kinnock of the British Labor Party giving a speech on his family history and Biden giving a nearly identical speech (but exaggerating details). Appropriating Neil Kinnock’s biography made him the ultimate hollow man. It’s amazing he was not laughed out of office in Delaware.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:27 amGabriel Hanna (dcffe4) — 12/14/2014 @ 1:47 am
Because in the Election of 1800, there was a tie, and Aaron Burr, who was intended to be the vice president, tried to get chosen president by the House.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:29 amHere you go, Gramps: http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html
Dirty Old Man (7f5fdd) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:35 amThis artivle doesn’t really tell you anything:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/17/us/biden-was-accused-of-plagiarism-in-law-school.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/in-hindsight-biden-s-law-teacher-sees-offense-as-minor.html
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:36 amI see don’t see taht it wa sthe professor’s own article.
Is the professor who reported it not the one who gave the course?
Anyway they didn’t want to ruin his whole future over that.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:37 amRE Biden’s plagiarism. Students always claim they “don’t know”, but I find it very hard to believe.
I once had two students turn in word-for-word identical lab reports (they had been partners). One of them said that unless I had explicitly said that they couldn’t turn in identical lab reports, then they were in the clear, and he brought along the syllabus to prove his point.
I responded by pointing to the University’s definitions of academic dishonesty, cited in my syllabus. One of the definitions is submitting someone else’s work as your own, which they had done, since it was impossible for me to tell who had written it.
But consider the student’s argument–he was saying that if I did not explicitly list every possible thing I considered cheating, than he ought to be free to do it without penalty.
And here, we are very far from not knowing how to cite.
In my experience students know exactly what they are doing when they cheat.
Gabriel Hanna (dcffe4) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:46 amYou will see, in college newspapers and such, students (anonymously) defending cheating. At my own university one student said that if the faculty felt they had a right to reduce each beautiful unique snowflake student to a number, and judge them by that number, and use that number to influence that student’s future, then students have a moral right to raise that number by any means necessary, whether it’s called “cheating” or not.
Gabriel Hanna (dcffe4) — 12/14/2014 @ 9:50 amI think Finkleman is describing a different incident, but now that I think about it, I am wondering if I read something by an opinion journalist who made up a hypothetical as an analogy to Biden’s misconduct rather than a description of it. It would have been in The New Republic or a columnist in my local Gannett sheet, perhaps Richard Cohen.
Biden also claimed to have graduated in the top half of his law school class (he did not) and to have won a moot court competition in Canada (which the press could not verify). At the time, Pat Buchanan said that the press would act to drive Biden out of the race because plagiarism of the sort he had committed would be a career-ender for a reporter. When the Sasso video came out, he was toast.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 10:15 amI think we have a new paragon example of “chutzpa”
seeRpea (01f6d3) — 12/14/2014 @ 10:36 amThey warned me if I voted for Sarah Palin…
aunursa (932331) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:18 amBiden, Kerry, Edwards, Hillary, Obama, Bill, Gore…, see any pattern here? Dems don’t just tell lies, they are lies.
Ray Van Dune (d9ea85) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:30 amClass act vs. clown act.
One is to be emulated, the other to be laughed at.
htom (9b625a) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:36 amI seem to recall Keith Ablow commenting on one of Biden’s performances thus: that if a patient of his talked like that, he’d do a dementia work up.
Biden is a walking talking example of “When the air hits your brain; you’re never the same.
Biden had brain surgery in 1988. Coincidence ? I don’t think so.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:44 amThis begs the question: What one or two things does Joe know about islam?
These two items are likely the basis for U. S. foreign policy, and articulating them might answer a lot of questions. They must be very profound.
bobathome (348c8a) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:56 amGreat liars like Bill Clinton always try to weave a little reality into their fabrications. This gives them an escape hatch if the lie metastasizes, growing beyond plausible denial. And they’re clever enough to resort to parsing “is” if that fails. Bad liars, say Obola, Pelosi, or Biden, get so wrapped up in their lies that they end up creating artificial universes that diverge significantly from reality. And so we are left with Biden’s two things about islam, which he feels compelled to expound to a woman who escaped muslim fatwa’s only by fleeing Holland where she was a citizen and a member of parliament. The parsimonious Dutch decided she wasn’t a citizen after it became apparent that providing 24×7 security would cost more than they thought she was worth. It also gave them a chance to appease the muslim murderers, and thus allowed them to sleep better for a few nights. So now she is a U. S. citizen. And an aetheist. Biden, no doubt having been briefed that Hirsi Ali was an aetheist, considered her unaware of the two things he knew about islam. One might speculate that these two things are the only aspects of islam that have proven not to be lies. Probably something about how graceful minarets appear in the dusk. No mention of the electronic loud speakers calling the faithful to prayer. Or, and this is more likely, they could have been the cornerstones of U. S. foreign policy, some variant on the narrative that islam is the religion of peace.
bobathome (348c8a) — 12/14/2014 @ 12:23 pma generous splotch of Dutch parsimony would work wonders on failmerica I think
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 12:34 pmWhat one or two things does Joe know about islam?
1) Most Muslims vote Democrat.
2) Rich Muslims donate to Democrats.
This is kind of like Senator Geary in The Godfather, Part II.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/14/2014 @ 1:30 pmIt is funny that so many people attack Sara Palin’s intelligence and never seem to find any reason to point out that Biden is profoundly stupid even when compared to his Democratic compatriots in the Senate. And they never seem to mention his intellectual dishonesty.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-accused-of-plagiarism-in-law-school#.VI4EPivF_AM
WarEagle82 (b18ccf) — 12/14/2014 @ 1:42 pm“And they never seem to mention his intellectual dishonesty.”
Biden lied his way through the debate with Palin in 2008. Nobody called him on it.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 12/14/2014 @ 2:35 pmShe is showing some mercy, she is well aware that Biden is dumber than a
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/14/2014 @ 3:28 pmBacda dubbayaasha.
Something useful to bring up here:
Joe Biden has sat on the Judiciary Committee so long that every sitting justice had to answer his questions. At times he chaired the committee. At times he lectured Supreme Court justice nominees on what the Constitution says.
Yet in debate with Palin, he asserted that Article I of the Constitution was about the executive branch:
In fact, Article I is about the legislative branch, and while it does discuss the VP’s legislative role, it does not talk about his executive function at all. Biden should understand that, but clearly did not.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/14/2014 @ 3:35 pmBiden lied his way through the debate with Palin in 2008. Nobody called him on it.
Biden made a number of bad mistakes there, but Palin was unable to call him on them. The experienced DC blowhard vs the inexperienced small-state governor. Oddly, the media failed to fact-check him.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/14/2014 @ 3:37 pmThe experienced DC blowhard vs the inexperienced small-state governor.
Experienced at what? Sitting still for cosmetic procedures? Biden’s never held an executive position. Gov. Palin did – for eleven years.
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 3:59 pmPaul Ryan got flummoxed, too. For everything he corrected, he let two things slip by.
Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:16 pmExperienced at what?
Being a DC blowhard, of course.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:29 pmAh, when it comes to Joe Biden, this clip cannot be beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho
His hair transplant and botox notwithstanding, he is a snotty piece of work. I don’t believe that whole “everybody loves Joe” nonsense. We ALL know people like him, don’t we?
Simon Jester (4e981c) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:46 pmFrom our good friend Wikipedia:
He simply cannot help lying. That was true in 1988, and is true today.
Yes, it is irritating that he gets a “pass” from the Kneepad Press on this, but that’s nothing new. Sadly.
Simon Jester (4e981c) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:50 pmhis children enjoy doing illegal drugs for example cocaine
the bidens are just kind of trashy people, but their brand of sleazy is more and more apropos and fitting given the general low-class miasma permeating the white house and other failmerican political institutions
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:54 pmFat Teddy was expelled from Harvard for cheating if memory serves yet went on the become the Lyin’ of the Senate. Shame? Never heard of it.
Gazzer (cb9ee2) — 12/14/2014 @ 4:58 pmHis hair transplant and botox notwithstanding, he is a snotty piece of work. I don’t believe that whole “everybody loves Joe” nonsense. We ALL know people like him, don’t we?
What’s disconcerting is than in a state the size of Delaware, which has low entry barriers (recall Christine O’Donnell), no one managed to take him out in nearly four decades. It’s as if the state has a stupefied electorate and political class (or they fancy clowns like Biden are perfectly normal).
Art Deco (ee8de5) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:23 pmMark wrote:
They are “giving leeway” to Islamist fascism simply because George Bush won the 2000 election. Had Al Gore been President on September 11, 2001, and he had actually chosen to fight back — give me a break here; I’m using a hypothetical! — the left would be very much anti-Islam, and on Mrs Hirsi Ali’s side, because they are going to be hostile to any religion.
Alas! ‘Twasn’t the noble President Gore, but the wicked and stupid George Bush who was fighting the Muslims, and therefore the left had no choice, no choice at all, but to sympathize — or, as the most recent past Secretary of State put it, empathize — with the Islamists.
For the left, examination and understanding and nuance are meaningless; all questions are to be decided by asking what would Chimpy McHalliburtonBushCo do, and then supporting the opposite.
The Dana who understands how simple things really are (1b79fa) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:30 pmThe Shrub called Islam “a great religion” in his first speech to Congress after 9/11. The deliberate blindness is on both sides. There is something called a “necessary assumption”, commonly seen in theoretical physics and AGW (I’m serious), without which you have to scrap your entire theory and methodology. Where would we be if we alienated all the Muslims? Who would host our military bases and supply our oil and that of Europe’s? They have no answer to that therefore the lie. The truth? They can’t handle the truth. Literally cannot handle.
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:46 pmislam has different flavors like ice cream
and a lot of times flavor’s the most important criteria in choosing ice cream
for example I wanted me some peabnut bubber ice cream the other day
and the only one i could find that didn’t have chockit was one of the really pricy ones
so i got it!
cause of i don’t buy ice cream very often at all (rationalization)
so as you can see some islams come at a higher price
but there’s a lot you can do to market different flavors
i’m not sure if peabnut bubber islam is the future or not, but just in case we should come out with one that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 5:51 pmBoth, literally and figuratively.
Dana (9fbdd1) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:02 pm“…Biden is profoundly stupid…”
There is NOTHING profound about Biden’s stupidity.
askeptic (efcf22) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:04 pmEven Biden’s stupidity is banal.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:09 pmyes yes Dana
the key though is to be proactive
failmerica – in both its Iraq and Afghan fiascos – never made a serious effort to popculture up those places
democracy whiskey sexy and et cetera
I’d love to know more about why this failed
i think it’s harder to sell america in those kind of situations when so many of your soldiers are tatted up like crack addicts
but I’m just speculating there – there’s lots of factors at play in this sort of thing
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 6:15 pmWe can’t rule the world. It’s way too big and unruly.
And we can’t solve everybody’s problems. There aren’t enough of us and not enough hours in the day.
And there’s no spoon long enough when you sup with the Devil. You know that story kishnevi linked about ISIS beheading children who don’t accept Islam? In Pakistan, our ally, they recently burned some Christians alive.
We should frack our own ice cream, I think. That would be a big step in telling the Devil he’ll have to eat his lunch all by hisself.
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:03 pmthe world got bigger while failmerica got smaller
and now we can’t even rule ourselves
all we can do is throw large sums of borrowed/printed money at being the biggest gayest most flagrant whorestate on the effing planet ever
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:13 pmYou have to take the bad with the good. For 52 years I’ve wondered how a shepherd, just sitting around on a mountainside watching sheep woolier, could make perfect wooden balls out of whatever small branch was handy, with tools he had in his pocket. Three days ago, YouTube told me. How to make the tool, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5x9EYvndsw
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:25 pmwatching sheep *get* woolier
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:25 pmmy goodness he’s authentic
happyfeet (831175) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:27 pmre #33: I don’t get the connection to Senator Geary. If i recall correctly , Geary didn’t take money but gave in to self inflicted blackmail.
though the killed woman was just an un-needed bastard deed by the Corleones.
seeRpea (01f6d3) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:37 pmLet us dream of a Democrat Primary in which HRC, Biden and Fauxcahontis “battle” it out…
ParisParamus (c5b20b) — 12/14/2014 @ 7:46 pm#60
You’re forgetting Jerry Brown.
ThOR (130453) — 12/14/2014 @ 8:10 pmGeary was taking money but raised his prices too much and also dissed Michael. It’s worth watching to Michael’s answer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPmTp9up26w
nk (dbc370) — 12/14/2014 @ 8:25 pmapparent Religion of Pieces outbreak in Sydney Australia
details sketchy ATT
redc1c4 (589173) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:17 pmplease to be remembering that Biden is the deep thinker, not Barely.
redc1c4 (589173) — 12/14/2014 @ 11:21 pmMy response to @PrivWhiteGirl, who dissed Ayaan in the linked tweet above:
You know what else is problematic? A death threat to you attached to a dead man by a knife. http://tiny.cc/schuringa
L.N. Smithee (986607) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:16 amAt debating. He was making up all kinds of bull***t on the spot while looking like he knew exactly what he was talking about. She was exactly correct in every word she said, but she didn’t look nearly as convincing. That’s because he’d done it many times already. Experience shows.
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:36 amExactly. The designers of the system couldn’t imagine that two candidates would get exactly the same number of votes. They gave electors two votes each, but couldn’t imagine that they’d be so organized and subordinate to a party machine as to all vote exactly in unison. But by the second real election, in 1800, that’s exactly what happened. The Jeffersonians decided to capture both spots by getting all their electors to vote for Jefferson and Burr, expecting that they’d have a handful of defectors who wouldn’t vote for Burr, so he’d come in second. But their plan worked too well, they had no defections, and all their electors voted the party ticket, whereupon Burr decided that since he’d tied with his leader he had just as much right to the top spot, so why settle for second place?
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:43 am(Second real election because 1788 and 1792 were not real contests. Everyone knew that Washington was going to win.)
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:44 amBy the way, Martin Place is about as central as you can get in Sydney. Think Times Square. For several months I used to walk through it every day on my way to work.
Milhouse (9d71c3) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:47 amEhh, she should have schooled him.
carol (e77d72) — 12/15/2014 @ 6:09 amCarol wrote:
You can only teach those capable of learning.
The Dana who wasn't an education major (f6a568) — 12/15/2014 @ 7:16 amGiven the choice of believing he knew how ridiculous and dishonest this was and doing it anyway, or believing he sincerely believed what he said and in the appropriateness of it,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 12/15/2014 @ 7:38 amI am not sure which is worse.
Either one is hard to believe, either one mystifies me as to how such a person could be VP of our country, neither one inspires confidence or respect.
Having said all that, I am reminded that VP or not, the bottom line is that left to himself he is a helpless sinful fool as much as me left to myself, and in need of the grace and mercy of God.
re #67: after that election they changed the rules so that one had to specify if they were giving the vote for President or VicePresident. With political party discipline, that meant same party was getting the votes for both.
seeRpea (01f6d3) — 12/15/2014 @ 7:45 amOur Philadelphia physician wrote:
How ’bout, he’s bipolar, and both are true.
The psychiatrist Dana (f6a568) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:50 pmOur Philadelphia physician wrote:
Or perhaps he’s Schrödinger’s Vice President, and both can be considered true, and false, at the same time.
The physicist Dana (f6a568) — 12/15/2014 @ 12:52 pm#66. Yes. Exactly.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/15/2014 @ 5:51 pm#59: Geary’s speech at the committee hearing, where he goes on about how fine most of those Italians are.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 12/15/2014 @ 5:52 pm