NY Voter Fraud Case Heats Up
[Guest post by DRJ]
For all who claim there is no evidence voter fraud impacts elections, Fox News reports the Rensselaer County Board of Elections in Troy, N.Y., has found 38 bogus ballots that an election official acknowledges likely tipped city and county elections to the Democrats:
“Thirty-eight forged or fraudulent ballots have been thrown out — enough votes, an election official admits, to likely have tipped the city council and county elections in November to the Democrats. Candidates would have been able to run both on the Democratic and Working Families Party lines in two weeks, and that could have given the Democrats the general election.
A special prosecutor is investigating the case and criminal charges are possible. New York State Supreme Court Judge Michael Lynch ruled that there were “significant election law violations that have compromised the rights of numerous voters and the integrity of the election process.””
New York Republicans and Democrats blame the Working Families Party for the ballots, a group that has ties to ACORN and even the White House:
“The Working Families Party has recently gained strength, and controversy, in New York. Republican and Democratic candidates in the Empire State can also run on third party lines, such as the Working Families Party, as well as the Liberal, Conservative, and Independence parties, among others. The extra line means extra votes that could bring victory.
Hillary Clinton garnered 2.7 percent of her total votes from the WFP line when she first ran for Senate in 2000, which increased to 5 percent of her total vote in 2006. In September, Clinton’s former campaign manager for her 2000 Senate run, New York City Councilman Bill DeBlasio, who has been endorsed by the WFP, beat two long-established politicians in the Democratic primary. Critics also accuse the Working Families Party of having a long association with the troubled activist group, ACORN. Bertha Lewis, ACORN’s CEO, is one of the party’s co-founders. The New York Times reported this month that “Patrick Gaspard, the White House political director, worked with ACORN in New York to set up the Working Families political party and sat on the party’s board with Ms. Lewis.”
No wonder the White House wants to discredit Fox News.
— DRJ
Nope. Never happened. Nothing to see here. Move along. Racists.
JD (082755) — 10/20/2009 @ 7:59 pmI recall being challenged by ACORN apologists to show even one case of voter fraud.
Richard Aubrey (af7f76) — 10/20/2009 @ 8:12 pmProblem is, if a guy votes fraudulently, how do you know it’s fraudulent?
If it looked fraudulent, you wouldn’t let him vote and, presto, no fraudulent vote.
It takes post-election discoveries like people saying, ME? No way.
I presume this will be a matter of a few bad apples and besides, you can’t prove it happened elsewhere.
Go look at the governor’s race a few years back in Washington. Just keep recounting, and “finding” more votes until your person wins.
It happened.
Or how about the Senate race in Minnesota. Anyone really believe that Stuart Smalley actually received those votes?
Eric Blair (c66c5d) — 10/20/2009 @ 8:23 pmThey just nailed a fraudulent vote in Cleveland – a guy ACORN registered nine times.
The ACORN apologists always discount the difficulty of proving actual difficulty of proving vote fraud and ignore absentee ballot fraud possibilities. For some reason they also seem to be against voter ID laws. Curious that.
daleyrocks (718861) — 10/20/2009 @ 8:31 pmstrike one difficulty above.
daleyrocks (718861) — 10/20/2009 @ 8:32 pmDRJ’s opening sentence reads, “For all who claim there is no evidence voter fraud impacts elections…”
#1 People who commit voter fraud obviously intend to impact the election.
#2 Arguments which begin, “there is no evidence…” are almost always disingenuous.
#3 Anything ACORN is involved in should be assumed to be crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
#4 Statements coming out of Obama’s White House are most likely lies. Deception and misdirection are the only reason most people there have jobs.
ropelight (cc01c0) — 10/20/2009 @ 8:51 pmWFP & ACORN…what could possibly go wrong?
AD - RtR/OS! (3b92f0) — 10/20/2009 @ 9:44 pmEric Blair:
You need to go back a bit further. Remember Cantwell’s victory over Gorton in 2000. That’s when the King County, Washington, Elections Bureau first got its chops. They’ve been at it ever since.
Brooks
Brooks (5bcf3a) — 10/20/2009 @ 10:55 pmHere is something that I have long advocated to ensure the accuracy of the vote.
I would like to see a voting process that, when you enter your ballot, returns a paper receipt showing a simple randomly generated number, and the vote associated with that ballot. Link that with a website that allows you to enter that number, and view the actual vote for that ballot.
This would enable every voter to verify that his or her vote was actually recorded accurately.
This maintains the secret vote concept that is critical to our voting process, but allows confirmation as well.
This still won’t alleviate issues with absentee ballots, or with people fraudulently registering for the vote, but would go a long way towards ensuring that the vote is not being corrupted in other ways. It would depend on the people actually following up on the vote, and that there would need to be a challenge process also.
But as we see that there is no real concern over illegal votes to begin with, it’s kind of a moot point.
NavyspyII (df615d) — 10/21/2009 @ 4:09 amIn the spirit of another thread, it would probably take a GOP candidate receiving the benefit of vote-fraud before any of The Left decided to make it a pressing issue.
Techie (482700) — 10/21/2009 @ 5:51 amSounds like NY should change their law so candidates can only run on one party. Question: does anyone know if that’s true in other states too? First I’ve ever heard of it. I’ve never seen it in any election here in NJ, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true here – the Dems have a stranglehold here, esp in my county in the south.
JEA (1eb0e1) — 10/21/2009 @ 6:18 amIt sounds more like they simply need to enforce their existing laws.
JD (0a26e4) — 10/21/2009 @ 6:27 amSounds like if all ACORN members were hung from trees, that we’d have more fraud-free elections.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 10/21/2009 @ 6:36 amWhat, no mention of the SEIU here? I’ll bet their dirty fingerprints are all over this one as well.
Dmac (5ddc52) — 10/21/2009 @ 7:25 amanyone notice that obama is tougher on voter fraud in afghanistan than he is when it happens here. oh, well, i am sure he would care if it benefitted republicans.
seriously, wtf?
A.W. (b1db52) — 10/21/2009 @ 7:58 amIt has never happened. Nobody has been convicted. You can’t prove it.
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