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7/23/2021

Republican Governor: It’s Time To Start Blaming Unvaccinated For New Covid Cases

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:11 am



[guest post by Dana]

Alabama’s Republican governor, Kay Ivey, doesn’t mince words and good on her:

Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey on Thursday called out “the unvaccinated folks” for the rise in Covid-19 cases in her state, a remarkable plea at a time when many GOP leaders are refusing to urge people to get vaccinated even as Covid-19 cases surge in many parts of the country.

“Folks are supposed to have common sense. But it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down,” Ivey told reporters in Birmingham.

Asked by reporters Thursday about plans to issue a mask mandate or other restrictions now that Covid cases are starting to rise again in her state, Ivey replied, “The new cases of Covid are because of unvaccinated folks. Almost 100% of the new hospitalizations are with unvaccinated folks. And the deaths are certainly occurring with unvaccinated folks.”

The unvaccinated, Ivey said, are “choosing a horrible lifestyle of self-inflicted pain.”

“We’ve got to get folks to take the shot,” she continued, calling the vaccine “the greatest weapon we have to fight Covid.”

Just how bad are things in Alabama? Pretty bad:

Alabama is the least vaccinated state in the country, with roughly 33.9% of residents fully vaccinated, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Average daily Covid-19 cases in Alabama are nearly double what they were a week ago, and more than four times higher than they were two weeks ago.

Ivey lifted the mask mandate back in April, believing instead that people should use their own common sense and act responsibly with regard to protecting themselves and others by decreasing the opportunity for transmission. But the Delta variant changes the landscape:

[N]ow with the Delta variant spreading, experts are saying vaccinated and unvaccinated people should wear masks in areas where Covid-19 cases are high but vaccination rates are low.

Ivey on Thursday was asked by a reporter what it would take to implement a mask mandate, and replied that “I want folks to get vaccinated” and “why would we want mess around with just temporary stuff?”

Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Wyoming, and Louisiana are the five leading least vaccinated states, with less than 36% of the adult populations vaccinated against Covid-19.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like vaccination rates will increase anytime soon:

Most Americans who haven’t been vaccinated against COVID-19 say they are unlikely to get the shots and doubt they would work against the aggressive delta variant despite evidence they do, according to a new poll that underscores the challenges facing public health officials amid soaring infections in some states.

Among American adults who have not yet received a vaccine, 35% say they probably will not, and 45% say they definitely will not, according to a poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. Just 3% say they definitely will get the shots, though another 16% say they probably will.

What’s more, 64% of unvaccinated Americans have little to no confidence the shots are effective against variants — including the delta variant that officials say is responsible for 83% of new cases in the U.S. — despite evidence that they offer strong protection. In contrast, 86% of those who have already been vaccinated have at least some confidence that the vaccines will work.

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As I said the other day, refusing to get vaccinated is reckless, frustrating, potentially puts others at risk, and certainly prolongs the pandemic. So, with the exception of those with medical issues that prevent them from receiving the vaccine, GET. VACCINATED. ALREADY.

–Dana

62 Responses to “Republican Governor: It’s Time To Start Blaming Unvaccinated For New Covid Cases”

  1. If your decision to not get vaccinated didn’t potentially impact anyone else, fine. But no matter how you try to spin it, a decision not to get vaccinated has the potential to impact a whole lot of people, as well as to once again, overwhelm our hospitals and medical supplies and personnel.

    Dana (fd537d)

  2. I must, loath as I am to do so, channel JF (several posts) and Whembly (1 post) and demand that our uninvited from the even farther south do the same. Not necessarily to blame for Louisiana and east, but very likely the uptick in TX and LAC.

    urbanleftbehind (83d0df)

  3. Dana, the other important stat, in addition to % vaccinated, is the increase in hospitalizations which, as of right now, is 106% higher than in the previous week. In this case, correlation and causation mesh, and the trend is unmistakable.
    WA State, for example, is 57% fully vaccinated and hospitalizations increased 15%.
    Bottom line, Ms. Ivey is right. She’s not mandating masks or vaccinations, just scolding her residents to do smarter and better.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  4. The Delta Variant Will Drive A Steep Rise In U.S. COVID Deaths, A New Model Shows

    The current COVID-19 surge in the U.S. — fueled by the highly contagious delta variant — will steadily accelerate through the summer and fall, peaking in mid-October, with daily deaths more than triple what they are now.

    That’s according to new projections released Wednesday from the COVID-19 Scenario Modeling Hub, a consortium of researchers working in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to help the agency track the course of the pandemic.
    …….
    “What’s going on in the country with the virus is matching our most pessimistic scenarios,” says Justin Lessler, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina who helps run the modeling hub. “We might be seeing synergistic effects of people becoming less cautious in addition to the impacts of the delta variant.
    …….
    In the most likely scenario, Lessler says, the U.S. reaches only 70% vaccination among eligible Americans, and the delta variant is 60% more transmissible.

    In that scenario, at the peak in mid-October, there would be around 60,000 cases and around 850 deaths each day, Lessler says.
    …….
    “By the time you get to October, these resurgent epidemics have burned through a lot of the people who are susceptible,” Lessler explains.

    At that point, “herd immunity starts kicking in a little more aggressively and we start to see things going down again.” By January 2022, the model shows deaths coming back down to around the current level of about 300 per day.

    The take-home message of this latest model is that the pandemic isn’t over yet and “we’re not going to be able to land the plane without turbulence,” says William Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “How much turbulence will track with how many people are vaccinated in a given community.”

    “I also strongly suspect that delta is highly prone to superspreading — if I am right, it might go off like a bomb in some undervaccinated communities,” Hanage adds.
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  5. As I said the other day, the new excuse is “It doesn’t work against variants.” False, of course, but every story — generally by an innumerate reporter (birm) — about how “many” vaccinated people are in hospital with Covid feeds the meme.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  6. demand that our uninvited from the even farther south do the same

    Central Americans who seek to enter the US have shown considerable intelligence in doing so. Probably the only thing stopping them from getting a shot is the incompetence of the immigration people.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  7. “If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  8. “We’ve got to get folks to take the shot,” she continued, calling the vaccine “the greatest weapon we have to fight Covid.”

    With that, she’s contributing to the confusion.

    The vaccines are the greatest weapon we have to prevent Covid. The greatest weapon to fight Covid are the synthetic neutralizing monoclonal antibodies. But with them, some of them don’t work, or work as well, against some variants (the old Eli Lilly antibodies that cured former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie don’t work at all against them, and have been withdrawn)

    And they are not used anywhere near as much as they should be – in fact anybody being admitted to the hospital for any other reason who was not vaccinated at least 10 days before should get an infusion and not the vaccine which they should get approximately three months later (because if you have antibodies added the vaccines won’t work till the level drops, and effect of the vaccine doesn’t kick in till about two weeks later, and if you get infected within several days, or are already infected, the vaccine will give the body extra non-essential work.)

    And updating it is of course slow.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  9. ‘If your decision to not get vaccinated didn’t potentially impact anyone else, fine. But no matter how you try to spin it, a decision not to get vaccinated has the potential to impact a whole lot of people, as well as to once again, overwhelm our hospitals and medical supplies and personnel.’

    HOW BUTTERFLIES CAUSE HURRICANES

    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/25/books/how-butterflies-cause-hurricanes.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

    “Would you believe, ‘KAOS’?!”- Maxwell Smart [Don Adams] ‘Get Smart’ NBC/CBS TV, 1965-70

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  10. There are other methods of treating Covid that have been though of, that might work very well, but are on their usual pace of taking ten years or more till they will be used:

    https://www.livescience.com/crispr-block-coronavirus-replication-treatment.html

    Scientists have harnessed CRISPR gene-editing technology to block the replication of the novel coronavirus in human cells — an approach that could one day serve as a new treatment for COVID-19.

    However, the study was performed in lab dishes and has not yet been tested on animals or people, meaning a treatment based on the method could be years away.

    It;s lke that with everything, since the 1960s.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  11. Good for her! This is excellent and a great example of leadership. I hope she’s rewarded politically

    Time123 (4258aa)

  12. 9. The butterfly effect might refer to the possibility, or not, of an outbreak happening in one particular place – as for the virus itself, the butterfly was maybe Dr. Ralph Baric.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents/gain-of-function.pdf

    Gain-of-function studies, or research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease, help define the fundamental nature of human-pathogen interactions, thereby enabling assessment of the pandemic potential of emerging infectious agents, informing public health and preparedness efforts, and furthering medical countermeasure development.

    Dr. Fauci is accused of having evaded that pause by redefinition.

    Improving the ability of a pathogen to cause disease is gain-of-function.

    Creating a pathogen where the ability to infect humans did not exist before altogether is not.

    (If I understood his colloquy with Rand Paul.)

    Anyway the butterfly is whatever led China to collect viruses.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  13. If Darwin had only done his research on American hillbillies instead of Galapagos wildlife, we would not even have the word “evolution” let alone a theory of evolution. Devolution? More than likely.

    nk (1d9030)

  14. Wonder what Darwin would’ve made of the citizens of Chicago murdering little children and each other at rates that would make a resident of Mogadishu blush?

    Oh Alabama
    Biden’s banjos
    Playin’ o’er teh river bridge
    Britches down in Alabama
    See the old folks
    Tellin’ bad jokes
    Hear the banjos
    Don’t it take you down home?

    Alabama, you got
    That little gnome Fauci
    To give you a clue
    Your Subaru
    Has got a wheel in the ditch
    And a wheel in teh poo

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. Dana, thank you for your post.

    Simon Jester (a143fb)

  16. half my family has a very good reason to be vaccine hesitant

    they are <12 and aren’t permitted to get a shot

    JF (e1156d)

  17. but the vaccine is safe

    it’s just not safe below a cutoff age set at 12

    yeah, that’s not a mixed message at all

    especially after everyone puts it through their confirmation bias filter

    JF (e1156d)

  18. JF, The vaccine is far safer then not. Please get your family vaccinated as soon as they’re able to.

    Time123 (4258aa)

  19. 12… Both men were playing to the cameras, but many scientists think Paul actually does know what he’s talking about. One of them is Rutgers University microbiologist and biosafety expert Richard Ebright, whom Paul quoted as saying this research “matches, indeed epitomizes the definition of gain of function research.”

    Other scientists, even those who believe the lab leak theory likely, argue that Fauci is technically correct, although they note that the official definition is so narrow it enables anyone to avoid the review process Fauci himself helped to establish. In other words, if the oversight system for reviewing risky research is almost never used, what good is it?

    But it doesn’t matter which “gain of function” definition you prefer. What everyone can now see clearly is that NIH was collaborating on risky research with a Chinese lab that has zero transparency and zero accountability during a crisis — and no one in a position of power addressed that risk. Fauci is arguing the system worked. It didn’t.Even if the lab leak theory isn’t true, what’s clear is that we need more oversight of this risky research, both in the United States and in China.

    Fauci also told Paul there’s no possibility the research in the paper Paul cited directly led to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but Paul correctly called this out as a straw man. That specific project was only one element of the U.S. government multiagency effort that for years pumped U.S. money and know-how into these Wuhan labs, via the EcoHealth Alliance, including NIH, USAID and the Pentagon. According to an intelligence fact sheet released by the Trump administration and partially confirmed by the Biden administration, the WIV took our help and used it to build another, secret part of the lab, where they worked with the Chinese military.

    Congress and the media would be derelict not to examine the decisions by Fauci and others that led to this collaboration. But rather than respond with openness and transparency, Fauci has consistently thrown cold water on the lab leak theory. Right now, NIH and other government agencies are ignoring congressional requests for more information about their relationships with these Chinese labs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/22/what-the-fight-between-anthony-fauci-and-rand-paul-is-really-about/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. JF (e1156d) — 7/23/2021 @ 11:51 am

    it’s just not safe below a cutoff age set at 12

    It is not necessarily not safe, although there is grounds for worrying that things coukld be different, the dosage say, or the costs versus benefits.

    But actually this is just an illustration of the principle that all medicines and medical devices must be considered innocent of being any good, or even of being non-harmful, until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, complete with exclusionary rules of evidence.

    The age 12 (or 16, or 18) is just an arbitrary cut off date – picked by the pharmaceutical companies in fact – and was done to minimize the possibility of approval being rejected.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  21. 12.

    Fauci also told Paul there’s no possibility the research in the paper Paul cited directly led to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but Paul correctly called this out as a straw man.

    It’s not a straw man. It’s what gives life to Senator Paul’s claim. Otherwise, what is the point?

    I mean, Senator Paul is not really blaming Dr. Fauci for the existence of the laboratory (or other laboratories in Wuhan) or for the fact it collected viruses from all over China. And if he’s not, what’s the point?

    According to an intelligence fact sheet released by the Trump administration and partially confirmed by the Biden administration, the WIV took our help and used it to build another, secret part of the lab, where they worked with the Chinese military.

    But Senator Paul doesn’t specifically accuse Dr. Fauci, or anyone else, of getting China involved in doing badly conducted research.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  22. So, with the exception of those with medical issues that prevent them from receiving the vaccine, GET. VACCINATED. ALREADY.

    It’s a “Faucian Bargain”: problem is, it’s the same cry heard amidst the ’75/’76 Swine Flu epidemic, when Jerry pushed to rush out vaccines– and half our guys who got stuck w/t freebee got sick from a bad batch– and half never got the shot– nor the bug.

    There’s a tablet for everything in America.

    Wait. For. The. Pill.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  23. @23 yeah…. the point of contention was about circumventing parents, not the concept of vaccine outreach

    “Piercey said her agency will also, in rare circumstances, provide the COVID-19 vaccine to minors without the permission of their parents. This statement is a contradiction to an announcement made this week by conservative lawmakers, who said Piercey agreed in a private meeting to stop this practice.”

    it was wrong to do this, and it’s still wrong

    JF (e1156d)

  24. JF, Based on what I read about the way that part of the law is structured I’m not worried about it. The Tennessee legislature set it up pretty well. Now ppl are grandstanding on it to score points.

    Time123 (4258aa)

  25. The 1976 swine flu vaccine was made against a virus that became extinct shortly after it was discovered.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  26. @26 i’m going to assume the health commissioner knows what she’s talking about

    it’s hardly grandstanding to take her at her word

    JF (e1156d)

  27. I was taking about it the people attacking the vaccine outreach program.

    Time123 (4258aa)

  28. @29 as i mentioned, they weren’t attacking vaccine outreach

    i suppose you can find a handful of republican nut jobs who don’t want to hear about any vaccines

    they would be greatly outnumbered by the democrat nut jobs who want to cut off parental control

    JF (e1156d)

  29. The problem in Tennessee was that the sate was accused of encouraging minors to get the vaccine without their parents’ permission, as they legally can.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  30. I mean, I guess it is progress?

    But a prime example of why I am so glad I don’t have to go back to the South anymore. Everything is “mah rights, mah rights”, until someone locally important is concerned about their income stream, and then it is all bondage and discipline for the proles.

    The immature part of me would be happy to see them leave the union. So many of their elites don’t at like Americans, they want to be petit royalty.

    john (cd2753)

  31. “It’s more complicated than that…I don’t think we can explain it in the time we have…’

    Classic Fauci Babble.

    Fauci’s a lot like Sean O’Keefe. Both government bureaucrats who naturally spew infospeak word salads that in the end can be so dull so contradictive and so incoherent as to make dried paint curl.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  32. This Week: Republican Governor: It’s Time To Start Blaming Unvaccinated For New Covid Cases

    Next Week: Republican Governor: It’s Time To Start Blaming My Wife For Giving Me A Summer Cold

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  33. Next Week: Republican Governor: It’s Time To Start Blaming My Husband For Denting The Mercedes

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  34. Yes, it is an accurate depiction that hypothetical southern governors from Colonel’s rhyme and DCSCA’s post would have foreign cars. But Scott Walker sure as hell didnt get to enjoy a room of big screen tvs, giant monitors or any recent releases of Apple I ware.

    urbanleftbehind (83d0df)

  35. Blame it on the Tucker faithful in this administration:

    Q Thanks, Jen. Two questions on the vaccine. First, you had mentioned yesterday that every individual at this White House has been, quote, “offered” a vaccine. So, can you clarify, is the administration not mandating vaccines for White House staff?

    MS. PSAKI: No, we have not mandated.

    Q Okay. And do you have a count or can you offer any confirmation to us on the percentage of employees who are vaccinated?

    MS. PSAKI: I’m not going to provide that. I will see if there is more information to provide.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/07/23/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-july-23-2021/

    GET. VACCINATED. ALREADY.

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  36. GET. VACCINATED. ALREADY.

    ‘WHIP. INFLATION. NOW.’ – Gerald Ford

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  37. @36. Stoner Scott Walker has yet to open his eyes fully, ulb; the bevis remains a butthead.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  38. OT- “The Cleveland Guardians.”

    Conjures up the image and charm of a cigar store indian.

    Oh. Wait.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  39. Dr Peter McCullough MD is a Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others. He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications on COVID-19 and is considered among the world’s experts on the topic, testifying in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in November 2020, and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, in the Colorado General Assembly, and in the New Hampshire Senate, concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.

    Dr McCullough also practices internal medicine in Dallas and he was initially a proponent of the vaccine, until the many adverse reactions among his patients changed his mind completely. He has since come out adamantly against the jab.

    He says, “Like most physicians looking at the data coming out of the registrational trials, the products looked like they were effective, ‘90% vaccine efficacy’…Through December, January, February, probably 70% of my patients here at Baylor in Dallas received the COVID-19 vaccine…looking backwards, now, on January 22nd, we had actually already had 186 deaths that had occurred after the vaccine. The threshold of concern is about 150 or so. In general, we get about 150 [deaths] for all the vaccines combined. 500 million shots per year, across 70 vaccines but for a single vaccine…

    “I think if we had had a data and safety monitoring board, they would have shut down the vaccine in February of 2021.”

    Read the whole thing and watch the video at:

    DR PETER Mccullough – Urgent Warning About Poisonous Jabs

    Horatio (5088d3)

  40. 41. The facts are actually pretty clear, but there is spin of various kinds. The PCR tests detect cases that don’t matter – some cases so mild they amount to a vaccination.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  41. Interesting Timing – Obama Administration Lifted Block on “Gain of Function Research” Just Eleven Days Before President Trump Took Office, January 9, 2017

    SUMMARY: President Obama (not Trump) started the reauthorization of SARS-CoV-2 Virus experimentation in 2017. The funding of the Wuhan Lab for the creation of SARS-CoV-2 was originated during the Obama administration and continued during the Trump administration. The scientific community, the Obama White House and National Security Team, and the Pentagon knew the dangers of funding the weaponization of a biological weapon from SARS. The COVID-19 pandemic was an outcome of these originating decisions.

    …. and yes, there are political and ideological benefits from the perspective of Obama’s ideological group for unleashing the SARS-CoV-2 Pandemic as an opportunistic “crisis” to create totalitarian government solutions regardless of who was in office. However, the timing of the subsequent biological release is very suspicious in relation to the 2020 presidential election and the downstream benefits of manipulating the election via mail-in ballots.

    Perhaps not a smoking gun of intent, but definitely bloody footprints walking out the door – in Obama’s size.

    Horatio (5088d3)

  42. A little evidence that we are learning from experience:

    “In the past week, the five states with the highest case rates — Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Missouri and Nevada — had a higher rate of people getting newly vaccinated compared to the national average,” Jeff Zients, the White House Covid-19 response coordinator, said during a White House briefing Thursday. “People in these states are feeling the impact of being unvaccinated and responding with action.”

    Let’s hope he is right.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  43. CENSORED: CDC Records Almost 12,000 DEATHS in 7 Months Following COVID-19 Injections
    (Highlights)

    The U.S. CDC released more data today in their Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a U.S. Government funded database, and now admit that they have received reports of nearly 12,000 deaths during a 7-month period since the COVID-19 shots were given emergency use authorization by the FDA last December.

    There are now 551,172 adverse reactions recorded out of 463,457 cases, including 9,274 permanent disabilities, 59,403 emergency room visits, 30,781 hospitalizations, and 8,831 life threatening injuries.
    You will not find a single corporate media outlet reporting these government statistics, as this has to be the MOST CENSORED information in the United States.

    Not only will you NOT find this information reported in the corporate media, you will find “fact checking” articles trying to debunk these statistics, by stating that the presence of these reports does not “prove causation.”

    The Medalerts.org interface for the VAERS government database allows one to search all the way back to 1901, and from January 1, 1901 through November 30, 2020, which is the last month before the COVID-19 shots were given emergency use authorization, there are a total of 6,255 deaths recorded following ALL vaccines.

    Brushing off these statistics, which represent only a fraction of what is actually happening in the public since so few health professionals report these adverse reactions to VAERS in the first place, is most certainly a criminal act leading to genocide.

    Note: It’s important to point out that…

    VAERS System is Only Recording “Fewer than 1%” of Covid-19 Vaccines Side Effects and Deaths

    Horatio (5088d3)

  44. I got vaccinated back in February out of a simple calculation that the benefits outweighed the risks. The benefits included not just those for my own health but also the safety and peace of mind of those around me. It seemed like pretty much a no-brainer decision.

    That said, in the last year we’ve seen a deserved erosion in peoples’ trust in public health authorities and experts in general following contradictory statements, e.g., the Wuhan lab leak hypothesis being aggressively knocked down as obvious racism in 2020 by people who now say there might be something to it after all. It’s not surprising that many of the millions of us who have no way of testing or critically examining the bases of expert pronouncements have their doubts about the vaccines. I wish everyone who could would get vaccinated but have a hard time blaming those who won’t.

    RL formerly in Glendale (fda61c)

  45. Patterico, Dana, can we please add “pill” to the spam filter? I hate to see absolute misinformation spewed out relentlessly. You want to talk about contributing to deaths by saying something incorrect? There is a great example of absolute ignorance.

    This is why I dislike posting here. So much preening nonsense from people who know practically nothing about the topics at hand. For example: pills to treat a viral disease? Other than the protease cocktail to TREAT and not prevent HIV, and a few to TREAT and not prevent influenza (and it doesn’t work that well), what is there?

    And if there was a pill, how long for a double blind test? There are a few antivirals in development for SARS-CoV2, but they are IN DEVELOPMENT. How long to gain approval at all three levels? Or is that kind of rushing to a product okay?

    Good lord above.

    Get the freaking vaccine. OMG.

    Simon Jester (5c948c)

  46. Coming This Fall on Fauci Sci-Fi Theatre: ‘The Upsilon Bacilli’

    “… [T]here’ll be a thousand mutations! Andromeda will spread everywhere! They’ll never be rid of it!” – Dr. Jeremy Stone [Arthur Hill] ‘The Andromeda Strain’ 1971

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  47. Players and Staff Make It Clear Not All Are Happy With New NFL COVID Dictates

    Lots of quotes from a diverse group.

    GET. VACCINATED. ALREADY.

    BuDuh (829305)

  48. 48. I hate to see absolute misinformation spewed out relentlessly. You want to talk about contributing to deaths by saying something incorrect? There is a great example of absolute ignorance.

    Do tell… me too:

    A Pill to Treat Covid-19? The U.S. Is Betting on It.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/health/covid-pill-antiviral.html

    Dr. Anthony Fauci announced on Thursday that the White House was investing over $3 billion to advance the development of antiviral pills to treat Covid-19 as well as future virus outbreaks.

    “Tell the pilots it’s outside the area of their competence.”- Charles Keith [Gregory Peck] ‘Marooned’ 1969

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  49. Hannity Makes Vax Stance ‘Very Clear’: ‘I Never Told Anyone to Get a Vaccine!’
    ……..
    ,,,,,,,, (Sean)!Hannity delivered a message on Tuesday night imploring his audience to “please take COVID seriously.”

    And it absolutely makes sense for many Americans to get vaccinated,” the pro-Trump host added on Tuesday. “I believe in science, I believe in the science of vaccination.”
    ……..
    On Thursday night, Hannity wanted to set the record straight. Which, naturally, included him railing against the “media mob” for giving him credit for encouraging his millions of viewers to get a shot.

    “These reports are all false for multiple reasons,” he blared while reading off a list of headlines touting his supposed pro-vaccine stance.

    “I never told anyone to get a vaccine,” the conservative host proclaimed. “I have been very clear. I am simply not qualified.”

    He added: “I am not a medical doctor. I know nothing about your medical history or your current medical condition. I think it’s inappropriate for me to do so. Instead, for over a year now I have been warning my viewers, you make my career possible.”

    While Hannity’s lack of medical credentials apparently prevents him from urging people to get a vaccine, it hasn’t stopped him from regularly diagnosing President Joe Biden from afar with dementia and cognitive mental decline.
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (0d5408)

  50. The Long Shadow of the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine ‘Fiasco’

    Some, but not all, of the hesitance to embrace vaccines can be traced back to this event 40 years ago.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-shadow-1976-swine-flu-vaccine-fiasco-180961994/

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  51. While Hannity’s lack of medical credentials apparently prevents him from urging people to get a vaccine, it hasn’t stopped him from regularly diagnosing President Joe Biden from afar with dementia and cognitive mental decline.

    OTOH, you don’t have to be a brain surgeon to know a history of multiple brain surgeries suggests head problems are afoot. 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  52. Most of the hesitance to embrace the Covid vaccine can be traced to right wing media.

    WATCH: Red State Governor Betrays the Unvaccinated

    Apparently sanity is not a welcome thing in the Republican Party.

    Purple Haze (848fb6)

  53. The person who sways me the most is an MD in Utah who frequents a BYU sports board, and whom I have corresponded with previously. Here is what he said just two days ago in response to a question from somebody else:

    There are no absolutes. In general I’m seeing more old people although most of them are vaccinated now so not quite as skewed in that direction as before. Obese people are still more likely to be hospitalized and die than skinny people. Same with diabetics.

    But there are still no absolutes. I’ve seen people in their 40s die. I’ve seen vaccinated people die. I’ve seen skinny people die. I’ve seen non-diabetics die.

    The cards are stacked in your favor if you are a vaccinated, thin, non-diabetic young person. But nothing is absolute.

    If you had to pin me down to define a typical person who died from Covid they are over 70 and obese and diabetic but this is changing because most of those are being vaccinated.

    norcal (a6130b)

  54. Shorter: What do Republicans have invested in prolonging the pandemic? Is it just spite because Trump lost?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  55. The vaccines are the greatest weapon we have to prevent Covid. The greatest weapon to fight Covid are the synthetic neutralizing monoclonal antibodies.

    The best weapon we have to prevent death from falling out of an airplane is the parachute. The best way we have to fight death from no parachute is the deep snowbank. But they are not equal weapons.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  56. The best weapon we have to prevent death from falling out of an airplane is the parachute.

    President Plagiarist would tell you it is Amtrak.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  57. President Obama (not Trump) started the reauthorization of SARS-CoV-2 Virus experimentation in 2017

    That’s an earlier date that I read before, but it makes sense. It says started There was a lot of disputes over this between bureaucrats. The dispute was mostly going on below the presidential level or even Department head level.

    Trump’s appointees did not reverse that. It was not something that got a lot of attention.

    The “pause” in experimentation wasn’t limited to SARS.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  58. 52. DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 7/23/2021 @ 5:15 pm

    A Pill to Treat Covid-19? The U.S. Is Betting on It.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/health/covid-pill-antiviral.html

    Dr. Anthony Fauci announced on Thursday that the White House was investing over $3 billion to advance the development of antiviral pills to treat Covid-19 as well as future virus outbreaks.

    This is typical of many articles that falsely imply that something is just around the corner, but Simon Jester is right – these things usually take years to get approved.

    Even this article, which says:

    …If all goes well, some of those first pills could be ready by the end of the year….Pfizer launched a clinical trial in March to study its safety in people, and expects to move to later-stage testing next month [July]

    Also says:

    Even if the next generation of pills doesn’t arrive for a few years, many scientists say that the research will be a good investment.

    The Trumo Administration could have done lot more along these lines, but they got diverted too much into mostly limiting themselves to pursuing the vaccines.

    The superiority of the antivirals or synthetic monoclonal antibodies over the vaccine is twofold: Every person given that is helped, and the treatments affect infections say a week into the past while the vaccines affect infections starting about two weeks into the future.

    The disadvantage compared to the vaccines is that you have to act in a timely manner, while you don’t for the vaccines. although actually, with the antibodies, you could administer them in advance – and in lower dosages.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)


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