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6/25/2016

Keeping Up with Hillary’s Lies

Filed under: General — JVW @ 8:38 pm



[guest post by JVW]

With the news cycle of the last 48 hours being largely devoted to all things Brexit, two fresh improprieties from the Once and Future Inevitable Next President of the United States, Hillary! Rodham Clinton, have largely flown under the radar. Here’s a recap:

The Wall Street Journal reported late yesterday morning (Pacific Time) that Mrs./Senator/Secretary Clinton failed to hand over a key email message she sent to top aide Huma Abedin in 2010 regarding Abedin’s suggestion that they get government email accounts. Clinton’s reply to the suggestion: “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.” This message was discovered in the collection of emails that Abedin provided the State Department last year, but again, was not included among the 55,000 submitted by Her Clintonic Majesty, which calls into question her sworn statement from last August that she had submitted all correspondence from her home server to the State Department. The article also reminds us that we are still missing all email messages from her first two months at the State Department. Naturally, her mealy-mouthed vassals are in full spin mode: “This email shows that, contrary to the allegations of some, Secretary Clinton was not seeking to avoid any use of government email. As indicated in this email, she was open to using a state.gov account but she simply wanted her personal emails to remain private, as anyone would want.”

The second interesting development was also reported yesterday afternoon as the rest of us were digesting the U.K. referendum. It turns out that Secretary Clinton’s State Department calendar managed to omit “at least 75″ private appointments she had with campaign contributors and Clinton Foundation donors during her tenure at Foggy Bottom. Stephen Braun of the Associated Press investigated the Secretary’s calendar and cross-checked it against calendars maintained by her aides and other State Department to uncover the discrepancy. The AP had been forced to go to court to obtain these records from the State Department. Though Braun points out that no known laws were broken by the calendar omissions, he adroitly ties it in with the email exchange between Clinton and Abedin to paint a picture of a Secretary of State who prized secrecy and rebuffed efforts at transparency. Again, the Clinton flacks brazenly lie in service of the Queen Bee, insisting that she has made heroic efforts to be super transparent, and that expectations that her calendar might actually list the names of people with whom she has met are unreasonable and unfair.

Never has any party nominated a more dishonest and unethical candidate for President.

– JVW

103 Responses to “Keeping Up with Hillary’s Lies”

  1. The late William Safire had it exactly right: she is indeed a congenital liar.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  2. her congenitals don’t just lie they also smell putrid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Hillary’s a scumbag.
    So let’s abstain from voting in November so she can punish America for not recognizing that Grover Cleveland or Calvin Coolidge should become President!
    Principles!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  4. she’s lillian hellman level liar, ‘everything including the & and, except her intentions are kristol clear,

    narciso (732bc0)

  5. LOL Cruz supporter. Great point:

    Yes, the lesser of two evils is the better choice.

    Denver Guy (aea36a)

  6. You only hate her because she is LGBT.

    GUS (30b6bd)

  7. i hate her because she has a vagina mr. gus

    such as it it these days

    but she will give money to planned parenthood

    same as mr. The Donald

    so planned parenthood can cut up little wiggly food stamp fetuses into small parts

    and sell the parts

    so who cares? lol

    win win

    twoleftfeet (dbc370)

  8. I’ve seen it said she’s the most compromised candidate ever and would be the most compromised president ever. But howdo you blackmail somebody whose response is, “What are you going to do about it?”?

    Richard Aubrey (472a6f)

  9. Oops. Remember the First Law of Clinton: If the Clintons did it, there’s nothing wrong
    with it and–delighted giggle–they got away with this one, too.

    Richard Aubrey (472a6f)

  10. Not voting Trump is a vote for Hillary.

    cedarhill (fe5d9e)

  11. not voting Hillary is a vote for Trump

    win win

    nk (dbc370)

  12. The only thing that surprises me is that anybody is surprised that Clinton continually lies. After all, this is a woman who was fired from her first major job – the Watergate investigation – for lying.

    Rusty Bill (ad1f26)

  13. At this point, it should be news only if Hillary says something honest. Which I suppose might happen once or twice.

    kishnevi (b4162e)

  14. As I’ve said many times on fora around the Net and in private conversations with friends and family, Hillary could have sex with a goat in Macy’s window while eating aborted baby parts – all captured on live TV – and 40% of Americans would still vote for her. Liberalism is, indeed, a mental disorder…

    Horatio (a739e5)

  15. Mrs./Senator/Secretary Clinton failed to hand over a key email message she sent to top aide Huma Abedin in 2010 regarding Abedin’s suggestion that they get government email accounts.

    Anyone paying attention would know from the beginning that she didn’t hand pver that kind of e-mail.

    She handed over what fit within certain parameters. Mostly that was mail to and from state.gov addresses. She claimed that, because there was a copy on the other end (at least initially) that complied with the obligation that there be a copy of such e-mails in the governments possesssion. Of course, such an e-mail, even if saved (and theoretically, if it’s a government record, both sides should archive it, although actuually only a small fraction of e-mail got archived, but that’s another story) it wouldn’t be turned up in a FOIA or other search for mail to and from Her Royal Clintoness.
    here.

    Her legal defense, stretching ad reaching as it was, did not quite cover all the facts.

    It was known very early on that some of her aides, while they did have a state.gov e-mail address, also had a clintoemail.com address, and wrote to her on it.

    That e-mail was not turned over.

    Hillary’s defense would be that all such e-mail was private – about her daughter’s wedding or interior decoration or something.

    Not true.

    This e-mail was about how she would e-mail.

    It was discovered, because when her e-mails were deleted, er lawyers did not feel safe in deleting or having Hillary delete, the contencts of e-mail accounts held by other people. Her aides got sued, and now some e-mail from Huma Abedin was disgorged.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  16. Though Braun points out that no known laws were broken by the calendar omissions, he adroitly ties it in with the email exchange between Clinton and Abedin to paint a picture of a Secretary of State who prized secrecy and rebuffed efforts at transparency

    She wanted a lot of these meetings off the record. They were discovered
    because the Associated Press hit on an indirect way of determining who met with Secretay of state Hillary Clinton. )although some of these people didn’t meet her then because 7 of these meetings got cancelled)

    It was for the same sort of reason that the White House traval office staff was fired in 1993, but they didn’t even want people to begin to suspect that secret meetings between Bill Clinton and somebody else might be the reason, so, although, the Administration was within its legal rights to replace the travel office staff (although they had been kept over from administration to administration, they didn’t have Civil Service protection) they contrived a different motive for replacing them.

    It was transparently false, so someone, Billy Dale, even got maliciously prosecuted to back up Bill and Hillary’s’s spin.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  17. THEY’D RATHER TALK ABOUT GUN CONTROL — WHICH IS A LOSER FOR THEM — THAN TALK ABOUT OBAMA’S FAILURES IN THE MIDEAST AND IN COUNTERTERRORISM AT HOME THAT HAVE KILLED SCORES OF AMERICANS: Democrats plan ‘day of action’ to keep spotlight on guns.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237176/

    ‘But we do know that race and poverty are correlated. And we know that poverty and crime are correlated. And we know that race and political affiliation are correlated. Therefore, my team (Clinton) is more likely to use guns to shoot innocent people, whereas the other team (Trump) is more likely to use guns for sporting and defense.

    That’s a gross generalization. Obviously. Your town might be totally different.

    So it seems to me that gun control can’t be solved because Democrats are using guns to kill each other – and want it to stop – whereas Republicans are using guns to defend against Democrats. Psychologically, those are different risk profiles. And you can’t reconcile those interests, except on the margins. For example, both sides might agree that rocket launchers are a step too far. But Democrats are unlikely to talk Republicans out of gun ownership because it comes off as “Put down your gun so I can shoot you.” ‘

    — Scott Adams

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. “The death by barbell of disgraced UN official John Ashe could become a bigger obsession for conspiracy theorists than Vince Foster’s 1993 suicide.

    Ashe — who was facing trial for tax fraud — died Wednesday afternoon in his house in Westchester County. The UN said he’d had a heart attack. But the local Dobbs Ferry police said Thursday that his throat had been crushed, presumably by a barbell he dropped while pumping iron.

    Ashe was due in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, who is charged with smuggling $4.5 million into the US since 2013 and lying that it was to buy art and casino chips.

    Ng was identified in a 1998 Senate report as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Trie, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. (Ng was not charged with any crime)

    Ng and Trie had visited the White House several times for Democratic fund-raising events and were photographed with then-President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton.

    One source told me, “During the trial, the prosecutors would have linked Ashe to the Clinton bagman Ng. It would have been very embarrassing. His death was conveniently timed.”

    http://pagesix.com/2016/06/26/disgraced-ex-un-officials-death-conveniently-timed/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. Once you acknowledge the overwhelming evidence of Hillary Clinton’s criminality stretching back decades, you have to ask yourself how the Democrat Party ever got hornswoggled into nominating her as the face of their party.

    One possible explanation is that she’s had J. Edgar Hoover’s secret blackmail files since she ran the Filegate operation out of the White House basement during her husband’s presidency. So, it was nominate Hillary or else. The or else, hanging like the sword of Damocles, was always being smeared by the most openly corrupt, revengeful, and merciless criminal cabal in the history of modern American politics.

    Another possible explanation is that Hillary has the goods on Barack Obama and he’s got the goods on her and Bill. So, it’s a Mexican stand-off. Obama hates her guts but he can’t denounce her for fear she and Bill will expose him for the fraud he so obviously is, and she needs Obama’s support to get elected. (A few words of denunciation from him and Black votes for her evaporate.)

    So, they’re joined at the hip. They may hate each other but any attempt to sever the symbiotic relationship would kill off both parasites.

    ropelight (596f46)

  20. Wow! Good to know.

    Now, all we need is a Republican candidate who knows how to talk about how dishonest Hillary is and has always been without seeming like some looney who just calls people names.

    Oh, yeah.

    Dammit.

    (Cue babytalk gratuitous insult about Hillary’s urinary tract and/or denial of Trump’s incompetence)

    L.N. Smithee (e92da8)

  21. “Never has any party nominated a more dishonest and unethical candidate for President.”

    I loathe Shrillary. Nevertheless, I am constrained to point out that the Democrats did once nominate Teddy Kennedy.

    C. S. P. Schofield (850e8d)

  22. General election head to head (pdf)

    This is that terrible Ipsos poll they’ve been flogging us with.
    Interesting in the detailed break down of voters by party.

    Donald Trump has more support among Republicans (76%) than Clinton has among Democrats (72%).
    Trump also wins the independent vote 32% to 27.
    Trump draws more cross over vote from Democrats than Clinton draws from GOP (10% to 9)

    And yet they say Clinton won that poll.

    If Rueters hadn’t weighted the survey with 52% Democrat. Since when has the country been, not just plurality, but outright majority Democrat? Why would you even bother to present that for public consumption. It’s not fit to eat. Not FDA certified.

    It’s like taking an online survey of Huffington Post.

    Why> because the straight unmessaged numbers say Trump kills her.

    No amount of money will make Hillary appealing. If they go a billion splashing that face over every airwave, on magazines, and buses, it will only get worse.
    Hillary is tiring, tiresome, and tired. She scores the triple T.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  23. Oh and she’s also a crook. Crooked Hillary.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  24. #21

    Ted Kennedy was never the nominee.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  25. stinkypig has to figure some way to avoid debating Mr. Trump cause when people see them side by side they’ll be disgusted with how nasty she is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. 19. ropelight (596f46) — 6/26/2016 @ 8:19 am

    Once you acknowledge the overwhelming evidence of Hillary Clinton’s criminality stretching back decades, you have to ask yourself how the Democrat Party ever got hornswoggled into nominating her as the face of their party.

    Control of the money for candidates, ignorance on the part of voters, and the lack of a good alternative candidates.

    No, she doesn’t have J. Edgar Hoover’s secret files, which never contained that much, and which are now more than 40 years out of date. This is actually probably a false explanation leaked by the Clintons. The lie is getting way out of date.

    And if she had something on Barack Obama, why would Obama not do everything he could to stop her from becoming president? If he is no longer president, what could he do against her?

    It’s just simply that the Democratic Party has become a centrally controlled organization, deue in large part, to campaign finance “reform.” THE DNC can collect large campaign contributions and give them to local candidates, who are often centrally recruited in the first place, like Tammy Duckworh was in Illinois.

    She can blackmail people, but not with truth, but with lies. She can blackmail with half truths people she is very close to, and for sure that will include her vice presidential pick. Blackmail can be anything that will tend to politically damage people.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  27. 21.“Never has any party nominated a more dishonest and unethical candidate for President.”

    What about Bill Clinton? Is it that the scale of the corruption has grown?

    There was also James G. Blaine in 1884. (but maybe his corruption was relatively smaller)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._Blaine

    Initially a protectionist, he later worked for a reduction in the tariff and an expansion of American trade with foreign countries. Railroad promotion and construction were important issues in his time, and as a result of his interest and support Blaine was widely suspected of corruption in the awarding of railroad charters; these allegations plagued his 1884 presidential candidacy…

    Blaine entered the 1876 presidential campaign as the favorite, but his chances were almost immediately harmed by the emergence of a scandal.[57] Rumors had begun to spread in February of that year that Blaine had been involved in a transaction with the Union Pacific Railroad in which the railroad had paid Blaine $64,000 for some Little Rock and Fort Smith Railroad bonds he owned, even though the bonds were nearly worthless; in essence, the alleged transaction was a sham designed to bribe Blaine.[57][d] Blaine denied the charges, as did the Union Pacific’s directors.[59] Blaine claimed he never had any dealings with the Little Rock and Fort Smith Railroad except to purchase bonds at market price, and that he had lost money on the transaction.[59] Democrats in the House of Representatives nevertheless demanded a Congressional investigation.[60] The testimony appeared to favor Blaine’s version of events until May 31, when James Mulligan, a Boston clerk formerly employed by Blaine’s brother-in-law, testified that the allegations were true, that he had arranged the transaction, and that he had letters to prove it.[60] The letters ended with the damning phrase, “Kindly burn this letter.”[60] When the investigating committee recessed, Blaine met with Mulligan in his hotel room; what transpired between the men is unknown, but Blaine left with the letters and refused to turn them over to the committee.

    Blaine took his case to the House floor, proclaiming his innocence and calling the investigation a partisan attack by Southern Democrats, revenge for his exclusion of Jefferson Davis from the amnesty bill of the previous year.[61] By now the pressure had begun to affect Blaine’s health, and he collapsed while leaving church services on June 14.[62] Blaine’s ill health combined with the lack of evidence against him garnered him sympathy among Republicans, and when the Republican convention began in Cincinnati later that month, he was again seen as the front-runner.[63]

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  28. “And we know that poverty and crime are correlated. And we know that race and political affiliation are correlated.”

    So the way to stop crime is to get African Americans to register Republican.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  29. I’ve given up on keeping track of her lies, why don’t you come up with a list of the times she has told the complete, unvarnished truth?

    max (41ee8e)

  30. These are all just lies on her way to the White House.
    Wait until she actually becomes President.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  31. Rusty Bill (ad1f26) — 6/26/2016 @ 6:44 am

    After all, this is a woman who was fired from her first major job – the Watergate investigation – for lying.

    No, she wasn’t really fired. What she did that Jerry Zeifman thought was unethical, given that she was working for the whole committee, and not just the Democrats on it, secreting away the records from 1970 about the target of an impeachment inquiry being given the right to counsel, in order to hide them from the Republicans, had the complete support of John Doar. I think she also probably falsely transcribed some of the Nixon tapes.

    When the investigation ended, and she asked to stay on as a regular House Judiciary Committee staffer, Jerome M. (Jerry) Zeifman, the majority counsel, refused to hire her. He had been completely cut off from and bypassed in the impeachment investigation, which was put under the direction of specially hired John Doar who reported to Peter Rodino.

    Zeifman also refused to give her a letter of recommendation.

    Zeifman wrote a book about this in the 1990s. He also thought, like they do today, that Hillary Clinton was likely to be indicted after the 1996 election. She wasn’t.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  32. harvardtrash sacky-slut henry paulson says vote for the lying stinkypig?

    do tell

    anyone starting to see a pattern

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. Sammy,

    Hillary is certainly no Aaron Burr.

    Azygos (198248)

  34. People who won’t vote for Trump are the same people who hire crimaleins at a much lower pay rate to clean their toilets, mow their lawn and build their security fences. Lazy bastiges.

    mg (31009b)

  35. Azygos (198248) — 6/26/2016 @ 10:56 am

    Hillary is certainly no Aaron Burr.

    Aaron Burr never was a candidate for president – or wasn’t supposed to be. He was Thomas Jefferson’s Martin Van Buren. At that time the electors voted for two people and did not distinguish between who was supposed to be to president and who not.

    Aaron Burr founded Tammany Hall, or rather he converted some mock-Indian organization, founded in 1789, to a political machine in 1799. At that time you had to own property to vote in New York. Aaron Burr gave or sold tiny bits of property to many men.

    He also arranged to get a law to pass in Albany that was supposed to deliver water to New York City, but on the side, or to finance it, could have a bank. That became the Manhattan Bank, and didn’t build any water tunnels or whatever they were supposed to build. Or it went very very slow.

    New York City didn’t get a reliable source of water until the 1840s, with the Croton Reservoir.

    The Manhattan Bank eventually merged with the Chase bank to become Chase Manhattan. And I think they merged in 1954 with Corn Exchange. And shortly before the year 2000 they bought Manufacturer’s Hanover. And then what happened was that Chemical Bank bought Chase but took the Chase name. This bank is not the bank that David Rockefeller used to run – don’t know how he got in charge.

    And the new Chase bought Bank First and at the time of the crisis in 2008 I think merged woth J. P Morgan. So now it’s J. P. Morgan Chase, but it’s called Chase and is really Chemical Bank under an assumed name.

    Oh yes, Aaron Burr tried to force Alexander Hamilton to take back some charges against him. I don;t know how duels got accepted even for a while so far north. But he killed him and was indicted for murder in New Jersey. While still Vice President.

    In 1805 I think he was off on some effort to create a new country out west for himself and wass put on trial for treason but was found not guilty or something.

    Sammy Finkelman (7a22e4)

  36. Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh, uh
    Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh, uh
    Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh, uh
    Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh, uh
    Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh, uh
    Chh chh-chh, uh, Chh chh-chh

    In the summertime when the weather is hot
    You can look for truth, Missus Clinton tells lies
    When the weather’s fine
    She got women, she got women on her mind
    Has a drink, maybe two
    If it’s ten, best be watchin’ your behind

    She’s a well-known b*tch, and she knows how to steal
    If teh Huma’s ’round, she’ll no doubt cop a feel
    Wears a wide pantsuit
    Goes a ton or a ton an’ twenty-five
    If teh crowd is black
    She’ll get down, no ways tahred, she’ll talk that jive

    She’s a threat, people
    She’ll play dirty, she’ll play mean
    She’ll screw everybody and she’ll do what she please
    When the lapdogs bark
    She’s all hugs and then she’ll put them on her knee
    Never happy
    She is owed yes, that is her philosophy

    Sing along with us
    Dee dee dee-dee dee
    Dah dah dah-dah dah
    Vote for Trump-ump-ee
    Dah dah-dab
    Dee-dah-do dee-dah-do dah-do-dah
    Dah-do-dah-dah-dah
    Dah-dah-dah do-dah-dah

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  37. What about Bill Clinton? Is it that the scale of the corruption has grown?

    She’s worse, Sammy. When Billy Jeff was nominated in 1992 he was still a small-time chiseler from the Ozarks by way of Georgetown and Oxford; he hadn’t yet grown into full bloom as a deranged psychopath. Even when he was renominated in 1996, he still had not yet amassed the full set of dark powers that Hillary! today possesses. If we were being geeky Star Wars aficionados, Bill of 1992 was Anakin Skywalker at the end of the third movie; Bill of 1996 was Darth Vader at the end of the sixth movie; but Hillary! of 2016 is the goddammed Emperor.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  38. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/26/2016 @ 11:43 am

    lol, you did better with Mungo than I!

    felipe (6bb3ce)

  39. JVW (eabb2a) — 6/26/2016 @ 12:07 pm
    Heh. Where’s our Obi-wan, and who is our Luke? Don’t tell me, I don’t want to know.

    felipe (6bb3ce)

  40. The Brian Williams of politics.

    I had enough of the Clintons in the nineties to last a lifetime. Do we console ourselves by pointing out it’s just her co conspirators and underlings she has bumped off?
    If we are cursed with her as President she will consider all of us as her underlings.

    Exhausting keeping up with which murder covered which lie.

    I am in all ways tierd of Hillary Clinton.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  41. Alright. Break it up. You look like a bunch of cadets. Spread out.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. papertiger,

    Gallup polls consistently show 45-49% of the electorate identify as or lean toward the Democratic Party. I assume a pollster might reasonable decide that number could be a few points higher since Obama’s job approval is 50-52%.

    DRJ (15874d)

  43. seriously what does a red queen supporter have to do to get people’s attention,

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=878222

    narciso (732bc0)

  44. Here’s today’s Morning Cackle with Hillary.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  45. wow when was that video

    george will’s wife should ask stinkypig for some diet tips

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  46. papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/26/2016 @ 8:59 am

    Attempting to unskew the polls is erroneous. People should have learned that from 2012.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  47. well osha and the irs are doing the party’s bidding, it makes a difference,

    narciso (732bc0)

  48. This notion by the pure conservatives that Hillary won’t be all that bad as President is just a poker-tell that the pure conservatives aren’t really all that conservative if they don’t fear Hillary.
    Purity…ooohhh…ahhh.
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  49. I fear Hillary. She will be awful, which is why I will never vote for her.

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. Yeah? What about against her?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. There are no votes against someone, only votes for someone. If you want to look at it that way, a vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote against Hillary. Using your standard, I will be voting against Hillary. I just won’t be voting the way you plan to vote.

    DRJ (15874d)

  52. i celebrate my belief in personal freedom and individual liberty by supporting Mr. Trump

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  53. A question of some interest: Can President Obama issue pardons if he’s been impeached by the House of Representatives, and not yet tried by the Senate?

    ropelight (596f46)

  54. Yes, a president can issue pardons up to the point when he’s no longer president.

    In Brazil, it’s different. A president loses all power, except the ability to stay in the presidntial residence, upon impeachment, and doesn’t get it back unless acquitted.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  55. JVW (eabb2a) — 6/26/2016 @ 12:07 pm

    When Billy Jeff was nominated in 1992 he was still a small-time chiseler from the Ozarks by way of Georgetown and Oxford; he hadn’t yet grown into full bloom as a deranged psychopath.

    That’s not accurate. For one thing, you’re ignoring the Branch Davidians. One of the leaders of the raid, whose name is mentioned in the Waco warrant, was Friend of Bill Jay William Buford, head of the BATF in Little Rock, a fact yyou probably are not aware of. Studying the dates in the search warrant, you see they track Bill Clinton;s presidential prospects – work abruptly stopped when Perot topped him in the polls in early June, and didn’t resume again until after the election. And Bill Clinton had connections also to the FBI and was working hand in glove with the cabal that created trumped up ethics charges against the FBI Director, Willam Sessions. He waited ti fire him till it was all over, though.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  56. I did write something, really taking off on what someone else had written. The file is dated January 19, 1994, but the musical notes I don’t think will reproduce here (they were just IBM ASCII-13 symbols)

    Maybe this excerpt from my protoblog, The Sammy Zone, dated July 12, 1995, will reproduce here:

    I see I can’t reproduce the big B C C and I (which I incorporated in this thing, and the saved file is dated May 26, 1992) but the rest will show up. Everything is left justified. I can’t help that.

    I’ll have to edit it a little bit because when I have a side comment it all gets bunched up.

    Date: 07-12-95 (16:40) Number: 895 of 1027
    To: ALL Refer#: NONE
    From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Read: (N/A)
    Subj: BALLAD OF BILL CLINTON Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
    Conf: SAMMY ZONE (9) Read Type: GENERAL (+)

    I wrote this about one and half years ago, shortly after Robert B. FIske
    had been appointed Special Counsel to investuigate Whitewater. I started
    with something that somebody else had written and considerably changed
    it. The musical notes cannot be uploaded here.

    Come listen to the story of a man named Bill,
    Poor Governor, barely kept his state in swill,

    A few paltry
    tens of thousands
    circa 1978.

    And then one day he was hunting for some votes,
    And through electronic gateways came some doubling notes. . .

    . . .Loans that is.

    Madison Guarantee, the Perry County Bank, Worthen.

    (not to mention similiar gushers of money benefitting all of his
    associates – like from FirstSouth of Pine Bluff, Arkansas where
    C. Joseph Giroir,Jr. the head of the Rose Law Firm, was a principal)

    @ @ @ @ @ @

    . . .And then, in 1992, came the biggest gusher of all. . .

    B I L L 4 Million loaned to his campaign
    by the Worthen National Bank
    as of the reporting date of
    May 31, 1992.
    C L I N T O N’ S
    Paul Tsongas withdrew because Bill
    Clinton had more cash on hand, although
    day by day, more money was coming in
    to Tsongas. (c. Mar 19. interviews)
    C A S H

    I N F U S I O N Worthen (and Jackson T. Stephens)
    had BCCI connections.

    Well. . .The first thing you know, old Bill’s no longer there,
    He’s been elected President and Tucker’s in his chair.
    His friends say: California is the place you ought to be.
    So they use some stolen money to buy a place right near the sea.

    Owned by the Thomasons of course. He’d just be a guest. Can’t quite
    visit it yet. We don’t want reporters getting too curious about the
    ownership and looking up land and corporate records.

    Ya all just leave it to special prosecutor now ya hear…. Even Dole
    says so.

    This ballad, by the way, understates things, I would say. Bill Clinton,
    I think, had a background, even before he got into elective politics –
    even before he volunteered in his first campaign. His stpe-uncle
    Raymond Clinton, was part of the machine in Hot Springs and had
    scaterred slot machines on streetcorners all over town. (they weren’t
    legal of course – what a question!)

    [ End of 1995 Post]

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  57. clintons are trashy and riddled with herpes Mr. F

    and chelsea

    oh poor lil thing

    have you seen a pic?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  58. Did either Hillary or Trump march with the AIDS vectors in an STD cluster today?

    nk (dbc370)

  59. Any corroboration of Sammy’s position in #57?

    Yes, a president can issue pardons up to the point when he’s no longer president.

    ropelight (596f46)

  60. stinkypig marched in ny i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. House impeachment without conviction in the Senate is like asking a girl for her phone number but never calling her.

    nk (dbc370)

  62. #57 Sammy,

    That’s awesome to know, just in case Brazil decides to impeach Obama.
    (LOL)!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  63. There are no votes against someone, only votes for someone. If you want to look at it that way, a vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote against Hillary. Using your standard, I will be voting against Hillary. I just won’t be voting the way you plan to vote.

    Then you are de facto supporting and accepting of Hillary as the next President. This is a binary election – Gary Johnson doesn’t count. You can sit out and hope against hope Clinton doesn’t get elected, or you can vote for Trump. Anything other than that is mental masturbation and you can fall on your “principled” sword and feel good about yourself. One of those two will be President – we know the kind of Judges and Justices HRC will appoint, and her use of the bureaucracy to destroy her enemies will make Obama looks like a piker. Trump is a wild card. I can only hope he surrounds himself with a pro-American, pro-Constitutional Scalia oriented Cabinet. There is no doubt that Hillary will not.

    Horatio (f58f04)

  64. I wonder how many pounds were supposedly on that barbell, and whose fingerprints.
    After awhile a cluster of coincidences start to appear as not coincidences.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  65. are there any fingerprints on the bar

    or was it wiped like with a cloth

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  66. If somebody’s due for a heart attack, isn’t doing bench presses with heavy weights a likely way to get it?

    nk (dbc370)

  67. Also, if you have a heart attack while bench pressing,I would think there is a high chance you would drop the barbell on yourself.

    But now I have an ironclad reason not to go to the gym.

    kishnevi (55d84d)

  68. Smokers don’t get Parkinson’s Disease, either.

    nk (dbc370)

  69. I know you’re being droll, but it’s really not a coincidence,

    narciso (732bc0)

  70. At the rate Trump is falling in the polls, Horatio, your binary choice may be between Hillary and Johnson.

    DRJ (15874d)

  71. Nicotine is a treatment for some forms of IBD.

    DRJ (15874d)

  72. I guess humoring the narrative, makes you all warm and fuzzy:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3443909/posts

    narciso (732bc0)

  73. A friend of ours, a doctor, with ulcerative colitis, is never without a cigarette in his mouth. Well, you know, not never-never. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  74. Trump took Washington Post credentials away

    Forgot that one.

    The good news is if you take that same poll with a 20% bias in favor of Republicans, Trump is leading by 12 points.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  75. So even the HOMO LIBTARDS openly acknowledge that RODHAM is a SICKENING and PATHETIC LIAR of EPIC proportions. Yet, the wimpy and homosexual and even the sort of STRAIGHT libtards continue to support and or SUBBORN this disgusting LOSER????
    Why?? Why HOMO’S?? Why LIBTARDS?
    Why do you support a DISGUSTING Pig, Who has NEVER supported you, and your GAY PROCLIVITIES!!!???

    GUS (30b6bd)

  76. It’s YOU, GUS. We’re SCARED that you’ll have an APPOINTED POSITION in a Trump administration.

    Did you see the poll, where 74% of Trump supporters report that they’ve had sex in the shower? The other 26% have not been to prison.

    nk (dbc370)

  77. …which calls into question her sworn statement from last August that she had submitted all correspondence from her home server to the State Department.

    It doesn’t just call it into question. It totally impeaches her sworn statement that she had turned over all work-related emails. According to her own mealy-mouthed spox.

    Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said she provided “all potentially work-related emails” that were still in her possession when she received the 2014 request from the State Department.

    Why wasn’t this still in her possession of she claims she only destroyed emails that were about yoga, Chelsea’s wedding, her mom’s death, etc., etc?

    This is proof positive she destroyed she destroyed work related emails.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  78. 69. They seem to be saying – they think – that theose arms didn’t cross the Syrian or Iraqi border – they just went to tribes building up their arsenals, or to criminal organizations. Ownership of such weapons is not illegal – it’s just that they were stolen, and maybe better quality.

    The thefts were stopped several months ago, but onl;y because some of them were used in a shooting by a police captain at a police training facility in Amman that killed two Americans and three others (a South African and two Jordansns). The FBI was called in to help investigate. word had been leaking out before.

    Did the police captain kill the others because he was art of the scheme to steal weapons?

    Meanwhile the Syrian-Jordanian border has been closed for a week, with no end in sight. It was closed because an ISIS terrorist made a suicide attack on the border. So ISIS got exactly what it wanted. 64,000 Syrians (who had not been allowed into Jordan) are now trapped on the other side of teh border without food and with very little water since now no deliveries can be made.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  79. ISIS is careful not to launch any invasion of Jordan (if they are still capable of that) because that would bring in Israel. Neither will it invade Turkey, because Turkey is a member of NATO and they are not looking for greater U.S. intervention. ISIS – or was it al Nusra – actually pulled out of Lebanon after making an incursion.

    However, we would have to reason, that it may not be worried about U.S. based attacks by permanent U.S. residents, and that it isn’t worried about Europe, because no European country is going to send an army after them – assuming of course, it’s really ISIS HQ that’s doing any of this terrorism, and not their backers in the Gulf, or Vladimir Putin’s FSB.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  80. Steve57 (ecac13) — 6/27/2016 @ 5:47 am

    Why wasn’t this still in her possession of she claims she only destroyed emails that were about yoga, Chelsea’s wedding, her mom’s death, etc., etc?

    It was.

    This is proof positive she destroyed she destroyed work related emails.

    It is.

    But she and her lawyers got John Kerry’s State Department to agree, before anybody not in the State Department knew about any of this, that they now had all her work-related emails.

    One big flaw in that assumption was that some of her aides had some work related communications while themselves using a clintonemail.com address.

    The flaw in Hillary’s plan of destruction was that her aides, probably on advice of counsel, did not themselves delete the contents of their old clintonemail.com accounts.

    The Clintons never really had a good end game, except maybe being Hillary being elected president of the United States.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  81. “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”

    Now I understand what that means, since these two bits of news were the subject of the lead New York Post editorial, and the New York Post editorial explained this a litle bit more.

    As I already understood, in November, 2010, hdr22@clintonemail.com and.or other emails were being stopped by state.gov’s anti-phishing spam filer and Huma Abedin said that she should consider getting a state.gov address or otherwise give give state.gov her secret e-mail address so it could be whitelisted.

    Hillary said she’d rather get a separate state.gov address or use a separate device to communicate with the State Department. Ultimately, obviously, she didn’t do that.

    WHat first happened is that the state.gov spam filer was disabled. I guess hdr22@clintonemail.com must have eventually been whitelisted, whether or now she actually formally requested that or somebody at the State Department did.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  82. She wouldn’t tell the IT people at state.gov her secret e-mail address, but I guess they eventually figured it out or somebody told them at least the domain name.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  83. Sammy, stifle yourself!

    ropelight (596f46)

  84. Can we please stop insulting the former Secretary of State and use her actual, full and complete name: Hillary Milhous Clinton? She did, after all, earn it.

    Lorem Ipsum (08ad03)

  85. Can we please stop insulting the former Secretary of State and use her actual, full and complete name: Hillary Milhous Clinton?

    I always write Hillary! with the exclamation point (except for in the title of my posts) in deference to her stupid 2008 campaign signs. I have considered updating it to 2016 with the dumb arrow in her “H,” but “H->illary” just doesn’t do it for me.

    JVW (eabb2a)

  86. Things that make you go hummmm

    Today, Democrats on the House Select Committee on Benghazi released it’s 400 page minority report in advance of the release of the full Committee report. Critics immediately noticed the minority report strangely mentions Donald Trump 23 times. Trump’s 23 mentions exceed the combined total of mentions of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty – two of the former Navy Seals killed defending the CIA Annex.

    Benghazi/Trump: just what did the Democrats think the Committee was investigating?

    ropelight (596f46)

  87. Fu*ckng Democrats. Can’t kill ’em, wouldn’t ever be one.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  88. JVW (eabb2a) — 6/27/2016 @ 1:03 pm

    but “H->illary” just doesn’t do it for me.

    That’s the limitation of this platform.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  89. narciso @91. This reads like something out of the Onion.

    Do you want to know a BIG LIE that appeared in the New York Times today (in an Op-ed piece *; fact checkers would have caught something like this appearing in the news columns)

    * By someone who may be a new irregular columnist: Texas Monthly Executive editor Mimi Swartz.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/opinion/ken-starrs-squalid-second-act.html

    Then, in 1994, a congressional committee made Mr. Starr a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons’ involvement in the Whitewater real estate venture and, juicier, the death of deputy White House counsel Vince Foster, a Clinton confidant.

    Error! A Congressional Committee with a Republican majority did not make Kenneth Starr a special prosecutor – three federal judges did.

    Error! It never was the law, and can’t be the law (it would be a violation of Article II Section 2, Clasuse 2 of the United States constitution – the appointments clause)

    Error! Kenneth Starr never had any jurisdiction over the Vincent Foster case – the original Janet Reno named special prosecutor, Robert B Fiske, Jr, did and issued a report.

    That may need a little bit of explanation. Bill Clinton had attempted to get all onvestigations into himself into the hands of a lawyer whom he could trust. So Janet Reno named him a unspecial special prosecutor, during a period of time when the soppecial prosecutor law was not in effect – the idea was the federal judges would ratify the decision. All federal investigations into Bill Clinton would go to him – and most if not all state investigations would defer to him.

    Part of this plan was making Janet Reno look like a last minute appointment, which very few people saw through. You know, he said he was going to nominate a woman to be Attorney general and the first two failed background checks. It was all contrived.

    Now, when U.S. Atttorney Rudolph Giuliani was conducting his investgation into insiderr trading in the 1980’s he had two big targets: 1) Drexel Burnham Lambert and Michael Milken and 2) Goldman Sachs and Robert E. Rubin. The way to get to Rubin was Robert Freeman – Robert B Fiske Jr was his lawyer, and eventually he pled guilty. after Giuliani had left to run for mayor the first time – to what I think was a totally made up story that of course did not lead to anyone else. Rubin had been appointed to something Bill Clinton called the National Economic Council, a White House appointment that did not require Senate confirmation; when the coast was clear, or it was clear no allegations would be made, in 1995, he named him Secretary of the Treasury.

    It is true, I think, that Kenneth Starr did get jurisdiction over the Vincent Foster case – but he didn’t re-investigate it.

    Sammy Finkelman (c41e9f)

  90. sammy you’re going to pick when Carlos Slim’s journal isn’t deliberately lying,

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/285106-pentagon-has-trained-fewer-than-100-syrians

    narciso (732bc0)

  91. Nobody could have seen that one coming, narciso. Nobody.

    In other news, another day, another few hundred Hillary! email lies.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/775550d62ef8487a975a2a1c1c8b1100/more-clinton-emails-released-including-some-she-deleted

    I’m sure they were all about yoga and cooking an Easter ham.

    …The emails were not among the 55,000 pages of work-related messages that Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence. They include a March 2009 message where the then-secretary of state discusses how her official records would be kept.

    “I have just realized I have no idea how my papers are treated at State,” Clinton wrote to Abedin and a second aide. “Who manages both my personal and official files? … I think we need to get on this asap to be sure we know and design the system we want.”

    …With the new release Monday, more than 50 work-related emails sent or received by Clinton have since surfaced that were not among those she provided.

    Well, they were about cooking alright.

    Steve57 (ecac13)

  92. and the jayvees have a new franchise in the phillipines, sorry about that, my philly cop friend spent some time in zamboanga, as part of his air force duties,

    narciso (732bc0)

  93. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/why_trump_frightens_the_gop_illuminati.html
    Time for you establishment hacks to meet up with a hemp rope and a sturdy oak branch.

    mg (31009b)

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