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1/9/2015

Ayaan Hirsi Ali Reacts To Massacre In France

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:03 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, responding to the events in France, addressed the struggle that seems to plague those who work hard to separate Islam from the acts of barbarism, and also expressed her views on what the media’s next steps should be. Judging by her comments, it’s clear to see that she did not consult with Joe Biden.

We do need to wake up to the fact that there is a movement—a very lethal movement, very cruel—that has a political vision about how the world should be organized and how society should live. And in order for them to realize their vision, they are willing to use any means. They are willing to use violence. They are willing to use terror.

Is this some kind of cult? Or are the principles of this cult embedded in Islam? I happen to think they are embedded in Islam. The only way peace-loving Muslims can get rid of this is by reforming their religion so that, for example, it can no longer provide justifications for murdering people deemed to be blasphemers. And while they go about reforming their religion, which will take some time, we who do not adhere to that religion need to defend our own values. Freedom of speech. Freedom of publication. And the rule of law.

The more we appease, the more we indulge, the more emboldened the enemies of freedom become.

The ball is now in the court of the media. If the press responds to this by not reprinting the cartoons, by not defending the principle that Charlie Hebdo was defending, then we have given in. Then they have won. Those three men yelled, “Allahu Akbar.” They yelled, “The Prophet is avenged. Charlie Hebdo is dead.” Our duty is to keep Charlie Hebdo alive. Our duty is to make sure that they realize that the Prophet is not avenged.

In 2006, when Jyllands-Posten in Denmark published the Muhammad cartoons, the mainstream media made the decision not to reprint those cartoons, to respect the sensibilities of Muslims and to avoid Muslim rage. This time it would be the biggest mistake for the Western press to repeat that—absolutely the biggest mistake.

I would urge everyone in the media to take a stand now. An entire magazine has been wiped out. If you think they won’t one day come for you, too, just because you abstained from mocking the Prophet, then you are gravely mistaken.

In other news, Christine Amanpour is referring to the barbarians as “activists”; Howard Dean refuses to refer to them as Muslim terrorists, but rather mass murderers; and Ezra Klein, clearly having gone over the edge, claims that two men went on a “murder spree with no motive involved” and that “their crime is not explained by cartoons or religion.”

–Dana

72 Responses to “Ayaan Hirsi Ali Reacts To Massacre In France”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  2. yeah gotta be honest with you I don’t see me no avenged prophet

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. why does she capitalize prophet anyway

    that’s like capitalizing watermelon or sangfroid or condiment or cherub or hootowl

    there just ain’t no call for it

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. I wondered that, too, happyfeet. Perhaps it’s an editorial decision…

    Dana (8e74ce)

  5. I think better than publishing cartoons would be to publish el-Sisi’s speech:
    http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2015/01/06/does-egypts-el-sisi-deserve-the-nobel-peace-prize/

    FYI, FWIW:
    On Hewitt, Chuck Todd says he will have 2 Muslims on his show Sunday at the same time, one saying that the jihadists are a strain of Islam that must be fought by the rest of Islam, and another person who will try to say they are terrorists and have nothing to do with Islam.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  6. She’s a foreigner. English is not her native language.

    Sigh. When a noun is used as a title it is capitalized. Elizabeth II is a queen but in England she is the Queen. Obama is the President. Mohammed is a prophet and in Islam The Prophet. (I’m not too clear about whether the article should be capitalized though.)

    nk (dbc370)

  7. At the risk of being mocked, I’ll answer seriously: She is Muslim and hence the “Prophet” is honored. I’m an old man and a lapsed Catholic for most of my life; however I expect (in written word) both God and Jesus capitalized. (Disclaimer: I doubt “Red” has a better arsenal than I do :))

    Angelo (c5d205)

  8. while everyone else is still reacting to the massacre, National Soros Radio is getting out front with their spin on the deeply weird and not a little ghetto (third world-style) Petraeus persecution

    Sandy Berger was apparently not available for comment

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. i predicted how bad obama would suck ass but you don’t see me capitalizing happyfeet now do you

    happyfeet (831175)

  10. humilitah!

    i has it

    happyfeet (831175)

  11. I wonder where my Strunck & White is. Probably lost when the basement got flooded. Or in one of my relocations. Ach, so much has been lost and there’s so much more left to lose. But I cooked the roast perfectly.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. Ah Little Ezra; he’s the sort that gives the other 99% of the idiots a bad name.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  13. I thought Ms.Ali had abandoned Islam?
    At any rate, the word in question was part of a quote from tge the terrorist. Presumably the editors decided to capitalize it because that is how Muslims do it. I suspect Ms. Ali was not involved in that.

    kishnevi (a5d1b9)

  14. In that case, nk, you have not lost the important thing.

    kishnevi (294553)

  15. The statement that liberalism is a mental illness is neither a quip or sarcasm. Amapour, Dean and Klein prove that it’s a fact.

    Mark (c160ec)

  16. Tangential from Bad Reporter
    http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/34/05/62/7363721/5/rawImage.jpg

    kishnevi (a5d1b9)

  17. Mark, you are correct. Amanpour, Dean and Klein are FOOLS. They don’t know that they are fools and in fact believe that they are ENLIGHTENED. It’s sad.

    Gus (7cc192)

  18. Gus – That is Imam Howard Dean please.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  19. The Western press has received a wake-up call. The Left’s little pet puppy dogs now grown into vicious pitbulls have turned on their enabling masters. Chickens do come home to roost, and bitter are the fruits of treachery. Hate begets hatred, and Journalists now have an opportunity to see themselves as others have seen them. Will they wake-up and take a stand against Islamic terrorism?

    I don’t think so, not in this lifetime.

    ropelight (7e0118)

  20. @20 ropelight
    +rep

    Angelo (c5d205)

  21. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is correct and we need to cut out the cancer before it spreads and becomes terminal.

    I wouldn’t piss on Amanpour if she was on fire. She will always be an apologist for her faith and her leftist beliefs.

    NJRob (904e37)

  22. Ezra Klein is my conscious, Obama is my soul…ah the last 6 years have been perfect!!!

    Ipso Fatso (10964d)

  23. I would piss on Amanpour if she was on fire

    happyfeet (831175)

  24. Journalists have been congratulating themselves for years on the cheap. People like Daniel Pearl have paid in full for them.

    Now it’s time for all those people safely ensconced at their stateside cubicles to take a stand. The bill has become due. I don’t envy them at all, but please stop telling me how brave you are and how much smarter you are than me until you prove it.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  25. I’ll go out on a limb and say that the fire would not really be necessary for happyfeet.

    felipe (56556d)

  26. Ipso Fatso (10964d) — 1/10/2015 @ 4:18 am

    Let me tweak that.

    “Ezra Klein is your conscious, Obama is your soul and the last 6 years have been perfect for you.”

    This sounds like a searing indictment. Chilling either way.

    felipe (56556d)

  27. ISLAMOPHOBES!!!!!!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. felipe

    It was said in jest. FYI.

    Ipso Fatso (10964d)

  29. 8 Angelo “She is Muslim and hence the ‘Prophet’ is honored.”

    She is an atheist, and has been for many years. You should read her books.

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  30. Ipso Fatso (10964d) — 1/10/2015 @ 1:02 pm

    I know Ipso, but its deeper truth struck me. You had a great thought.

    felipe (56556d)

  31. Hey, I just came to see which hack around here is blaming the president. You guys rule.

    California calvin (5fa18e)

  32. you’re one of those NPR commenters

    i hate you people

    happyfeet (831175)

  33. i hate you more than food items labeled “gluten free”

    happyfeet (831175)

  34. Ropelight: I assume you mean the puppy dogs that Reagan armed? Did you mention that Reagan armed them? Because Reagan armed them.

    California calvin (5fa18e)

  35. that’s how much i hate you

    happyfeet (831175)

  36. plus you’re from california

    happyfeet (831175)

  37. Jumping to conclusions is a very bad habit happyfeet. Sometimes on the web people try to pretend to be somebody they’re not. Cal might could be Ezra, for example. You’ll never know.

    elissa (2c1d12)

  38. oh.

    i’m sorry

    happyfeet (831175)

  39. World Muslim support of their fundamentalists, the Salafists, stands at 77% and is increasing.

    IOW, they support jihadist goals, to subject all nations to a Dar al Islam, enforce sharia and levy a jirzya, and in sympathy lend material aid.

    Reform of Islam is as futile an hope as is conceivable.

    DNF (b04f89)

  40. ok thanks Bill Maher for that contribution

    but for reals

    who are american muslim peoples?

    there’s a LOT of them, and they’re falling WAY WAY short of their bombingdeath/deli hostage death quotas

    and we have to ask why

    happyfeet (831175)

  41. i think it’s cause they’re super-sweet

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. 43. I think it’s because they’re fat and happy.

    Jus say’ n.

    DNF (b04f89)

  43. people are people so why should it be

    happyfeet (831175)

  44. The Muslim population of France is nearer 20% than the widely publicized 10%.

    Here it’s 1.5%.

    Taqqiya in Dar al Harb is modus operandi.

    DNF (b04f89)

  45. 45. Blessings upon you, cherub.

    DNF (b04f89)

  46. Well, it won’t be the first religious war France has had. The one between the Catholics and the Huguenots lasted for 36 years. The Albigensian Crusade by the Catholics against the Cathars lasted for 20 years and, incidentally, gave us the phrase “Kill them all, let God sort them out”.

    nk (dbc370)

  47. i love it when they all go ONE DAY MORE

    it’s effing inspiring is what its is

    i did not live until today…

    happyfeet (831175)

  48. The Xian Reformation was significantly nourished by Erasmus and a nascent study of scripture with his Greek texts.

    Islam has no kernel to germinate.

    DNF (b04f89)

  49. DNF, where did you get that 77% figure?

    The only one I’ve seen floating around says 10%, which is why I keep referring to it.

    kishnevi (4cea7c)

  50. There were the Sufis but I only know them through dervish dances, and their laid back philosophy from Nasreddin Hodja stories. Some say Omar Khayyam was one too.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. dervish dancings

    nuevo americano style

    happyfeet (831175)

  52. if i were hispanic

    and my hairs on my head were that curly

    you wouldn’t even know me

    cause i would be transcendent

    happyfeet (831175)

  53. with my leg i make transcendent kickings

    happyfeet (831175)

  54. A Greek one. Very popular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RbZQid4-AQ

    nk (dbc370)

  55. 51. Today on a show hosted by Hannity mid afternoon featuring a group of experts exceeding a dozen including personal faves Gellar and Spencer quoted by a Lebanese expat lady of an exhaustive poll over six continents.

    Consistent, BTW, with polls dating to the Gulf War–the Saudi tally at that time being 70%.

    DNF (b04f89)

  56. in this life a dancer i am not

    but next life

    look the eff out, whirl

    i’m a comin

    happyfeet (831175)

  57. 59. Some assembly required.

    DNF (b04f89)

  58. DNF, thanks. You got me curious enough to go googling.
    Link 1 confined to Europe chimes in with your figure, but believing sharia is superior to civil law and that there is one true way to read the Quran does not necessarily mean support for jihadism:http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
    Link 2 is from the Pew Group, and is detailed enough I prefer to let you muse over without comment, except to note it did not include any countries in the Arabian Peninsula..
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

    kishnevi (3719b7)

  59. Ah, I see while I was searching nk also posted the Pew poll.

    kishnevi (a5d1b9)

  60. 6. MD in Philly (f9371b) — 1/9/2015 @ 7:24 pm

    .I think better than publishing cartoons would be to publish el-Sisi’s speech:

    http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2015/01/06/does-egypts-el-sisi-deserve-the-nobel-peace-prize/

    The Wall Street Journal published excerpts from it on Friday, citimng MEMRI.

    From this I learned that the speech was actually given on Sunday December 28, 2014, not January 1, as other sources seemed to indicate, although they didn’t precisely say that either.

    The New York Times wa not behind other media outlets – it took time for this speech to get noticed.

    This is a video clip, with captions, both n Arabic and English, and sign lanagiage interpretation:

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4704.htm

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  61. happyfeet (831175) — 1/9/2015 @ 7:29 pm

    Petraeus persecution

    It’s the moles. They don’t want Obama appointing him to any kind of high position.

    Obama has already said he didn’t harm national security. And you only violate the espoionage act if the classified information

    EITHER

    1) Is revealed to a foreign power or for pay

    2) Actualy ahrms U.S. security.

    The excuse for continuing this investigation is apparently that several people have been prosecuted for the kind of leaking Petraeus did. I think that didn’t use to happen before the Obama Administration, though.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  62. 36. California calvin (5fa18e) — 1/10/2015 @ 6:03 pm

    Ropelight: I assume you mean the puppy dogs that Reagan armed? Did you mention that Reagan armed them? Because Reagan armed them.

    Reagan didn’t arm them. Ronald Reagan allowed Pakistan to choose who got in Afghanistan got the arms.

    Partially because there wasn’t much choice about it, unless the United States really insisted, and partially they didn’t really understoand what Pakistan was doing.

    Not all of it was financed by Pakistan. There were johadists in other parts of the world, too.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  63. bush had class

    obama is trash

    he married trash

    he spawned trash

    DEAL.

    happyfeet (831175)

  64. u btr moov u btr dans

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. happyfeet (831175) — 1/10/2015 @ 6:30 pm

    who are american muslim peoples?

    there’s a LOT of them, and they’re falling WAY WAY short of their bombingdeath/deli hostage death quotas

    and we have to ask why

    There was prehaps more of an Islamic establishment when money came in promoting jihadism, and maybe the imams are watched more carefully to see if they are getting moneyfrom bad sources. They haven’t taken over many mosques, although back in the early 1990s Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman did. And mabe the sponsers of terror are a little afraid. At least of ruining a good thing.

    Sammy Finkelman (6b5229)

  66. saudi royal trash keep polluting everything they touch Mr. F

    it’s what they do

    remember what we saw when we all, as americans, watched the khalidi vid

    me personally it’s still on my tivo

    i was like omg

    happyfeet (831175)

  67. You’re still mad at them for deporting us from Saudi Arabia for being too irresistible to women? In retrospect, they did us a favor. I had lost 20 pounds. It was disappear fast, or disappear slow.

    nk (dbc370)

  68. i have issues

    happyfeet (831175)

  69. Long Dong ibn Dunham moots Mahdi’s Bday.

    DNF (b04f89)


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