Shocker: Latest O’Keefe Video Catches (Now Former) NPR Exec Decrying Tea Partiers as Stupid Racists
That part is hardly shocking. As Weigel notes, the real news may be in the acknowledgement that NPR doesn’t really need federal funding to survive — indeed, he says, NPR would be better off without it:
The issue with public radio is not just the overweening liberal bias it shares with many other news outlets. The issue is more fundamental: we can’t afford it. I don’t care how small a percentage of the budget it is. The attitude that we can keep everything that is unnecessary because it is a relatively small expenditure is part of the problem. We can’t afford it. Period.
Now Republicans can kill the funding entirely … and when leftists scream that defunding will kill NPR, Republicans can respond with this.
UPDATE: When I first wrote this exec was “now former” that was wrong. That’s what I get for relying on Weigel. But if he wasn’t “former” before, he is now. Maybe Weigel was just prescient!
Nah, he was just wrong.
NPR is for rich white people.
That’s who listens.
Why are we subsidizing radio listenings for rich whiny white people?
It’s a good question.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:26 amBREITBART to be indicted any moment now. James O’Keefe is a felon racist! Edited tapes!
JD (4c5021) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:31 amRepublicans should go further. They should strip NPR of it’s non-profit tax-exempt status! This is what the liberals truly fear and it would kill off NPR. As long as they don’t pay taxes, they aren’t competing fairly and we’re still subsidizing them.
quiznilo (f89d1c) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:38 amwe should strip them of their radio licenses and auction them to pay debt
That’s how broke America is.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:41 amLibs see racism everywhere in America (nowhere else.) This is news?
gp (72be5d) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:46 amKudos to O’Keefe & Co. For people who pride themselves on their cleverness, NPR exec are pretty stupid.
Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0a09eb) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:58 amThe attitude that we can keep everything that is unnecessary because it is a relatively small expenditure is part of the problem.
What’s your opinion of tax payers funding multi-million dollar sponsorships of NASCAR by the US Army?
AJB (3375b6) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:10 amSo Juan Williams was “let go” because he could no longer be objective when it came to muslims because of his comment, but these two can say whatever about the tea-party and jewish people and they can be objective?! These elites make me sick! They need to get out in the real world and see what it is like, they would never make it!
Lynn (f599b0) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:14 amO’Keefe: Hey! Hey, everybody! I found out that NPR people don’t like the Tea Party! Aren’t I smart?
Everybody: No sh*t, Sherlock. Somebody give him a Mr. Justice Junior Crimesolver’s Badge so he’ll shut the hell up already…
Leviticus (1daf74) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:16 amRe: Leviticus
It’s not really the content, it’s the delivery
MANstreammedia (e69cd2) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:23 amhere is coverage on an NPR house blog
…
The problem with this statement is that Dana Rehm has all the credibility of a bought and paid for Soros whore, which is surprisingly little.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:26 amFrom the Daily caller article about this:
At the Café Milano lunch, Schiller said he’s “very proud of” how NPR fired Juan Williams. “What NPR stood for is non-racist, non-bigoted, straightforward telling of the news and our feeling is that if a person expresses his or her opinion, which anyone is entitled to do in a free society, they are compromised as a journalist,” he said. “They can no longer fairly report.”
HA HA` HA HAA, Buddy. Best, yet possibly worst-timed quote EVAH.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/2/
elissa (392ed2) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:33 am‘“They’re seriously racist, racist people,” Schiller concludes about the Tea Party.’
And, for some strange reason those of us who support the idea behind the Tea Party are deeply displeased (and have been for years) that we’ve been forced to pay, at the point of a gun, to support the activities of the scum at NPR.
Go figure.
Dave Surls (90be31) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:44 amJust how stupid do you have to be to confuse subsidizing public radio with advertising sponsorships targeted to obtain military recruits?
AJB level stupid.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:45 amI’m not gonna lie, I had Leviticus’s reaction too.
But good for O’Keefe anyway, as it’s important to cut funding for CPB. It’s a lot of money when you figure in the interest we will pay on the money we’re borrowing.
RE: Nascar, I think the government should set up a certain amount of advertising funds for the military, since it is a volunteer force that we actually do need, and then we should let those funds be spent however the DOD finds it most productive.
Targeting NASCAR to not receive that funding is pure culture warfare rather than thrift. I think a happy compromise would be to simply reduce the advertising budget without that restriction.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:57 amSPQR, absolutely agreed. one must look at the ROI, and not all of the ROI on that is monetary. How is a NASCAR sponsorship any different from buying an advertizing spot on network TV? it serves the same purpose and is targeted at the demographic most likely to take advantage of the army’s benefits.
Rorschach (0b8664) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:59 amTrue, the more revealing comment was that about the Muslim Brotherhood, who would bring Mr. Schiller’s career and life, to an abrupt end, if they had any
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:00 amsay in it.
I think O’Keefe was going for the bigger story — he was hoping that NPR would take a $5 million check from the Muslim Brotherhood.
That failed (NPR wouldn’t bite), so now we have a less damning headline.
Kman (5576bf) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:01 amIt’s pretty simple: if NPR provides a quality product to which enough people are willing to listen, it’ll draw sufficient advertising support to stay on the air and prosper; if it doesn’t provide a sufficiently good product to survive commercially, then we are paying a lot of taxpayer dollars to subsidize something to which very few people listen.
Either way, public funding should be ended.
The businessman Dana (3e4784) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:03 amNo, their stupidity is denser then that;
Schiller: The Zionist or pro-Israel even among funders. … I mean, it’s there in those who own newspapers obviously, but no one owns NPR. So actually, I don’t find it
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:05 amMy opinion is that the Army is wisely directing its marketing and recruiting budget toward a segment of the population that is more patriotic and willing to serve their country than the NPR audience.
Gregory of Yardale (db9fb3) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:05 amDespite the fact that he had no hesitation in making those comments while acting in a professional capacity for NPR.
Gregory of Yardale (db9fb3) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:07 amShe didn’t mean the Tea Party stuff, she meant the not needing public funding stuff.
Gregory of Yardale (db9fb3) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:10 amThe question with National Guard / Army sponsorships of NASCAR is whether or not the return on advertising dollar is there. If not, cut those too. If advertising the National Guard on Oprah and The View got recruits, I’d support that.
But that we keep hearing about NASCAR from the left wing trolls shows not that they are concerned with actual thrift but it is an expression of their hatred for people whose values they don’t share. It is further exposure of the fact that the left today is about hatred more than ideas.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:15 amWhat’s “scary” (his terminology) is the idea that enforcing our border security like every other country in the world and not wanting the government to default on its obligations are somehow thought to be crazy ideas. What’s “scary” is that NPR gets away with moderating political debates as an objective observer.
As far as govt. funding of NASCAR, I saw that discussion already, if not here, then Althouse or somewhere else. The point made was that it was effective advertising to reach many of the people who are interested in enlisting in the military. I don’t watch NASCAR, but obviously a lot of people do.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:23 amThe important point here is that they’re raising money by accusing innocent people of being racists. And that type of accusation brings activist groups far, far more tax dollars than those merely represented in NPR’s budget.
The hate crimes industry makes enormous amounts of money “training” and “advising” the DOJ and state justice and law enforcement agencies (and even teachers and school kids) on instances of so-called “hate crime” (while also underhandedly placing their stamp of approval on protocols that keep other types of hate — more prevalent, and thus more costly and politically incorrect ones — from being counted as instances of “hate,” as it suits activists’ priorities and constituencies).
Gay, ethnic, racial and feminist grievance groups make enormous amounts of tax money “advising” schools and universities about their responsibility to address “atmospheres of intimidation” in school settings. These groups trump up allegations about “tidal waves of hate groups” or “invisible epidemics of prejudice” or “bullying crises” in order to busk up their take and sell their expensive “teaching tools” and “syllabi.”
They’re at the ready to shakedown any school district where some troubled kid commits suicide, for instance, or some graffiti appears (not sexist graffiti, but other slurs, because to attack sexist graffiti is to attack hip hop and other venerated cultural expression. The only bad sexists are frat brothers).
Feminists force all males into sexual violence seminars on certain campuses; administrators everywhere impose all sorts of expensive and accusatory trainings on all their employees and students.
How cynical are these people? Websites promoting such programming actually cite schools’ “legal responsibility to ensure non-hostile environments” before offering “protection” in the form of mind-bogglingly expensive seminars and hall posters and intervention experts and anti-hate bracelets and other pricey baloney.
Nice car you got there, principal . . . sure would be too bad if something happened to it, if you don’t pony up and buy the SPLC’s latest “teaching tolerance” series or the Zinn Project’s re-education course packets, or hire one of Arne Duncan’s peers to address your students’ moral shortcomings.
How much taxpayer money gets spent on this stuff every year, while these activists stomp on notions of equal justice through bias crime enforcement and create re-education “anti-bullying” regimes in the schools? Between federal, state and local expenditures: billions. The Education Department’s Office of Civil Rights alone is one of the largest parts of the federal DOE, with a 100 million+ budget. And they basically exist to ensure that schools in the states abide by the protocols they create, at their own expense.
And at the heart of this entire, corrupt universe, lies one ugly little fact: in order to keep the gravy train rolling, you have to create an enemy — you have to call somebody a racist, an Islamophobe, or homophobe, or a sexist, be it schoolchildren, or tea party members, or people who vote Republican. You have to constantly scream “racist” to keep getting taxpayers to subsidize your free lunch.
That’s what we were watching on that video. And it’s a hell of lot bigger than NPR’s budget line.
Tina Trent (7f2406) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:27 amI do feel some sympathy for someone like Mr. Schiller, though. It’s unfair and cowardly for an organization like NPR and the people who run it to throw someone under the bus for expressing what they all believe and promote anyway.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:29 amWhen I was in the Army, many years ago, easily 60% of the lower enlisted guys had a preferred NASCAR driver and would talk about the event on Monday before PT. I started watching some races just so I could be more sociable (but they are sooo long and I haven’t watched one in many years).
I think some on the left have this instinct that they need to prove hypocrisy, no matter what the issue is, and in this case their attempt is ridiculous.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:37 amAJB is Willie the racist midget hilljack Yelverton, folks. I am shocked, shocked I tell you, to find AJB and kmart being asshats.
JD (d4bbf1) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:44 amThe “R” word has accrued enormous power over the years. All you need to do to win any argument is call your opponent a racist and Voila! instant victory for you- the other guy is as worthless as his opinions. Because he’s a racist. Because you said so.
Douglas Leaon (392f36) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:50 amIf I were to say that the Swiss, who are white, make better watches and chocolate than the Ugandans, who are black, am I a racist? Or that Germany is a greater country than Botswana? or Colombia?
Hey Ron, please put a sock in your mouth, before you ass kiss potential Muslim money givers to the NPR.Moreover,having the asshole gene, for all of us outside of NPR to see on display was quite instructive.
MIKE191 (3036b3) — 3/8/2011 @ 10:00 amThere is real craziness at NPR. Street hippies in charge of the store.
pat (f1bffe) — 3/8/2011 @ 10:07 amIt is not at all surprising that kmart and Yelvton approve of is NPR hack’s mendacity.
JD (404246) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:18 amNo, the issue is not that we can’t afford it. We can’t afford a lot of things that we should be doing, such as border control.
The issue is that the Feds should not be involved with it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Government’s constitutional mandate, even if its bias was the other way. The Feds have no more business being financially involved with this than with mortgages, education, healthcare, etc.
The Federal Government should get out of the mortgage business, the student load business, the news and other media, etc. – not because we can’t afford them, but because they are usurpations that lead to waste and political favoritism.
Amphipolis (b120ce) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:23 amKman, are you SURE they didn’t take the money? Did you watch it all the way to the end? Did you catch the words on the screen right before “To be continued”? Haven’t you liberals learned to simply shut up about what isn’t on a particular video, especially when it is coming from O’Keefe?
prowlerguy (efdb32) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:26 amprowler, if Kman makes an assertion, you can bet your life he didn’t know it to be true. If he happens to be correct about something, it’s a complete accident (but this is rare). He goes out of his way to push a dishonest summary of anything he’s talking about.
I think he’s trying to make the threads as inane as possible in a silly effort to harm Aaron Worthing (even though this is Patterico’s post). They were blogging at the same site, and Aaron has found more success and respect than Kman has, and Kman’s obviously upset about that.
Kman actually has a blog, but I bet he won’t let Prowlerguy know what its address is. He’s ashamed of it.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:46 amAnd I think Amphipolis makes the best point. Even if we had plenty of cash, it doesn’t make sense for the government to be broadcasting this kind of crap. We need to cut anything we don’t need the government bothering with.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:48 amTis will not fix the government financial crisis by itself, therefore it is silly to even look at it.
JD (404246) — 3/8/2011 @ 11:54 amProwler guy asked:
They better not have taken the money, unless Mr O’Keefe wanted to hand them a fraudulent check, or actually give them five million bucks.
That was the danger I saw: in offering the donation, what would have happened if they had accepted it?
The cautious Dana (3e4784) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:09 pmThe donation, or lack thereof, is far less telling than what the NPR former Exec had to say about fellow citizens who do not share his worldview.
JD (404246) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:12 pmDana, O’Keefe has made errors before, but perhaps in this case he would have had something on the check that subtly notes it is void? I dunno. you’re right that is an obvious way the left could try to engage in lawfare against him.
But I’ve seen a few similar pranks pulled off, such as ‘awarding’ someone a bill that looks like a check to point out our share of the federal debt.
One thing is clear, O’Keefe is brave and effective, but should rely on some kind of legal adviser when planning his stings.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:13 pmCould someone share the secret of how to tell which commenter is really this Yelverton person? This keeps coming up and I feel like I’m missing the punch line of the joke. Does JD have a way of seeing the IP addresses from these comments?
I have always said that I wished one of my kids was a hacker. And another one a lawyer. (A third could be a pastor, to pray for the salvation of the first two.)
Gesundheit (d7ea47) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:20 pmI don’t think a check would have to be exchanged. All it would take is a commitment to accept the money. O’Keefe’s actors could have simply said then “Give us the particulars of how you would like us to get this money to you, and we will take care of it when we return to the office.” After all, cash doesn’t have to change hands for a soliciting arrest, just the agreement on price. And sine this is simply the court of public opinion, rules of evidence don’t apply.
prowlerguy (efdb32) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:24 pmGesundheit, JD isn’t IDing him via some technological method. he’s just aware of Yelverton’s shtick, which is to use proxies and new nicks and then parrot the same claptrap. It’s possible he’s sometimes in error about it.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:24 pmIf it’s nonsense, with some link to thinkprogress, or other journolister, it’s probably Yelverton, now
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:25 pmif it sounds dumber than usual, it’s one of the other trolls
Trolls all look alike to me.
Now do I have to renounce myself?
Gesundheit (d7ea47) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:27 pmOops. That should be “denounce”, right?
I get those mixed up. I once tried denouncing the world, thinking I was doing a good thing. Kind of like Michael Moore, denouncing wealth – but not renouncing it.
Gesundheit (d7ea47) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:29 pmLiberals and Islamists both support totalitarianism. No reason for this quartet not to have a cordial lunch and demean their common enemy, those who favor individual choice and liberty.
Heavily edited. Phone tampering. Pimp Costume.
WINNING!!!!!!
daleyrocks (ae76ce) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:39 pmWhat’s your opinion of tax payers funding multi-million dollar sponsorships of NASCAR by the US Army?
Comment by AJB
You’d prefer they recruit from your gay cooking class ?
Mike K (8f3f19) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:49 pmIf NPR really was public radio, it would be covering NASCAR as part of it’s news services. If it’s “public” radio, then serve the PUBLIC! (Of course, the actual race events are too valuable a commodity to leave to non-commercial outlets.)
I don’t give a damn that we CAN afford NPR. It is not right that we fund their ongoing contempt of the USA and the American people.
Chuck Roast (beffc6) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:54 pmYou people are too harsh. If the liberals REALLY hated NASCAR and wanted to ruin it, they would be proposing government funding for it. Then everytime they needed more money the yellow flags would come out while people stood in front of the cameras and asked for the viewers to please call in so that the racers could keep racing.
Needless to say, speeds would be reduced; cars would be electric; and every race would seem like the last one.
Gesundheit (d7ea47) — 3/8/2011 @ 12:59 pmLOL. This race brought to you by fans like you, as well as abunchofmoneyfromthecorporationforpublicracingmoney.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:02 pmDustin – I am rarely wrong 😉
Gesundheit – just from experience, and the fact that he has trolled under that name repeatedly.
JD (6e25b4) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:13 pmJD, it’s been very obvious the vast majority of the time that it is actually this same nutcase.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:17 pm==JD isn’t IDing him via some technological method. he’s just aware of Yelverton’s shtick==
Having JD around is like having our own personal FBI profiler.
elissa (392ed2) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:19 pmWhat’s funny is that it clearly bugs the hell out of Yelverton because he will flee and return with another nick and try again. Of course, I can say it’s funny because Yelverton hasn’t tried to screw with me IRL.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:22 pmNo, he isn’t “former”. Not yet.
I don’t believe he doesn’t leave until the end of the month… And the other person will continue to bean exec at NPR after he leaves.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/8/2011 @ 1:38 pmIs Ron Schiller of NPR related to Vivian Schiller who is the chief executive of NPR? That would be interesting to know. Your tax dollars at work.
Powerline has a good post about V. Schiller dated 3/7/11 and her speech to the National Press Club. She gave this before R. Schiller was pimped.
P.S. JD is never wrong.
BT (74cbec) — 3/8/2011 @ 2:31 pmNo they are not related, which was the first thought
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/8/2011 @ 2:47 pmthat came to mind, but they are all part of the collective.
Check the time stamp and index number. They jump all over the place.
Why is O’Keefe SO afraid to release unedited videos?
Surely these horrific organizations would be even more exposed for the vile things they truly are if he did.
O’Keefe has all the credibility of Charlie Sheen.
JEA (ff4497) — 3/8/2011 @ 2:53 pmThe Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set up so that rich liberals could listen to opera on the taxpayers dime.
It, and everything associated with it never should have existed in the first place, and it ought to be shut down tomorrow at the latest.
It’s welfare for the rich, it’s the circuses part of bread and circuses for folks who can easily afford to pay for their own circuses.
You want top listen to some crap like “Fresh Air”? Knock yourself out…only YOU pay, ’cause I don’t want to hear it, and I don’t want to pay so that you can be entertained.
If we have to have welfare programs, I want them to be 100% for the benfit of the poor, and I want them locally run. No more federal funding so that college professors in the Bezerkley Hills can be entertained at public expense.
Dave Surls (73512f) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:04 pmI wonder if the Aspen Institute might have second thoughts about their new employee? Just what is Schiller expected to do as the new director of the Aspen Institute Arts Program and Harman-Eisner Artist-in-Residence Program? Looks like they hired him to be a fund raiser to me. He should be safe though as his new boss, Sidney Harman, Institute trustee, chairman of the Committee on the Arts and co-benefactor of the Harman-Eisner Artist-in-Residence Program, and the new owner of Newsweek magazine would seem to have identical sympathies as Mr. Schiller.
Occam (2d9853) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:06 pmAnd, of course, the parasites at NPR hate the Tea Party. The whole idea of the Tea Party is to destroy entities like NPR.
Dave Surls (73512f) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:12 pmWhat’s your opinion of tax payers funding multi-million dollar sponsorships of NASCAR by the US Army?
Comment by AJB
You’d prefer they recruit from your gay cooking class ?
Mike K wins da Internet today.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:13 pmYou know where this Schiller guy is going to work? The Aspen Institute. You know who sits on its board? David Koch. Evil is afoot, I tell you.
Ag80 (efea1d) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:24 pm“What’s your opinion of tax payers funding multi-million dollar sponsorships of NASCAR by the US Army?”
At least they’re trying to recruit from a segment of the population that might have some interest in serving their country instead of only serving themselves.
If the Army sponsored NPR, in the hope that the kind of trash that listens to NPR might be induced to enlist in the service of their country, I’d question the Army’s collective sanity.
Dave Surls (73512f) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:31 pmGesundheit-
You only have to denounce yourself if you are being racist (as far as I can tell). I think JD detects ripples in “the force”, myself.
Anyway, I don’t know whether to applaud your comment about govt. funding of NASCAR or berate you for giving them the idea…
Ag80- Are you serious, or are you O’Keefing me?
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/8/2011 @ 3:37 pmI see ripples (in DUI Haley Ozment voice)
Denounced. Denounced and condemned. The whole racist lot of you.
JD (d56362) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:01 pmMike K wrote:
Oh, that’s just so last century. While there is an MOS 92G Food Service Specialist, a lot of the food service is done by civilian contractors.
The Army daddy Dana (5a4fb2) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:03 pmI thought AJB was a distinct form of vile troll different from Yelverton, but I admit to not fully knowing the taxonomy.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:03 pmI will see you all in 40 days.
After a challenging devotion from a colleague of mine, I’ve decided to fast from the news for Lent. I’ve been a news junkie since 9/11, getting my fix several times a day. For me that’s a bit out of balance. So I’m going to try something different for a bit.
Giving up pop or candy or even Scotch wouldn’t mean as much. That would just make me irritable. I’m hoping this improves my attitude. We shall see.
God bless your Lenten season. And I’ll see you when we celebrate the resurrection.
Gesundheit (abee7d) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:19 pmGesundheit, what did Mardi Gras look like for you then?
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:23 pmMD:
Totally serious, but then so is Madeline Albright and O’s beer summit buddy Skip or whatever his name is.
Kind of blows holes all through the narrative doesn’t it?
Ag80 (efea1d) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:25 pmThe Koch’s are evil Zionist capitalist running dogs.
JD (b98cae) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:29 pmJD:
I think you meant “KOCHZIS!!!!”
Ag80 (efea1d) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:35 pmYou say that like it’s a bad thing!?!
Chuck Roast (8adf93) — 3/8/2011 @ 4:39 pmAg80- There are times when a conspiracy run by someone with a very bizarre delusional system seems to be the most likely explanation for world events. That and the reality that many people just crave power and that is the only consistent narrative, even if the means of achieving power require 180 degree turn in methods and rationale- just like it makes no difference if it’s global cooling, global warming, or global climate change, somebody wants to tell everyone else what to do.
OT warning: running dogs
Speaking of dogs, my oldest travelled out to California yesterday, leaving us his Norwegian Elkhound for a week. This thing is sheading so much hair I think at 1 penny a pound we could retire the US debt (if I could get enough people to help me brush the beast). I’m sorely tempted to get out the clippers and shear the thing like sheep in the spring…It has this undercoat of fine white hair…finer that alpaca wool…
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/8/2011 @ 5:22 pmSilly Ag80 #74 … next you will be believing that the Nazis were National Zionists … and that they sent peace-loving Aryans to the gas ovens by the millions …
Alasdair (e7cb73) — 3/8/2011 @ 5:24 pmJD #53 – I do believe that you just called AJB a homophone – and I denounce you for that !
Well, you basically just said he sounds just like Yelverton – and isn’t that the major identifying characteristic of a homophone ?
Alasdair (e7cb73) — 3/8/2011 @ 5:28 pmIf we can afford cowboy poetry in NV we can afford NPR.
kansas (313837) — 3/8/2011 @ 5:31 pmMD:
We had a corgi that died last year. You could vacuum every day and hair would still pile in drifts. Great dog, though.
Alasdair: Next you’ll say there’s no Easter bunny.
Ag80 (efea1d) — 3/8/2011 @ 5:41 pmThe cowboy poetry thing cracked me up. We still have working cowboys where I live. The idea of them working on their poetry every night is hilarious.
jodetoad (7720fb) — 3/8/2011 @ 6:54 pmSo let me get this straight: It’s awful for people to pose as the Koch brothers when talking to Walker in WI, but perfectly fine for O’Keefe to pose as someone he’s not in order to try to get NPR to take a check?
Jim (ad29d8) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:04 pmwe had a cowboy poet come when I was little… I was a senior in high school in Texas and I remember making eye contact with my english teacher cause someone came in with these copies of handouts he had asked for and he looked at them and noticed they were bad copies and he said “looks like the windshield of a 57 chevy after a west texas dust storm” … (no, fruitloop, it’s just cause of they used wrong settings on the copier) and after he left the smart kids were talking about how great it was and I said it was glorified stupid and Mrs. S said yeah I agree
and that is the story of when I met the cowboy poet
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/8/2011 @ 7:05 pmYou may all sleep peacefully tonight knowing that Mr. Schiller did not mean those vile and despicable things he said– and that they do not reflect his own beliefs. So don’t be offended. K?
“While the meeting I participated in turned out to be a ruse, I made statements during the course of the meeting that are counter to NPR’s values and also not reflective of my own beliefs. I offer my sincere apology to those I offended. I previously resigned from NPR effective May 6th to accept another job. In an effort to put this unfortunate matter behind us, NPR and I have agreed that my resignation is effective today.” Ron Schiller 3/8/11
elissa (392ed2) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:48 pmO’Keefe can claim another scalp.
Wow. I realize his name is mud in a lot of the left’s mind’s, but it just doesn’t make a difference when he relies on video proof. And I detect a level of timing refinement in this latest video. O’Keefe is getting better at this.
He ought to get a Pulitzer, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually does.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:52 pmWhat Leviticus said.
carlitos (01d172) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:52 pmO’Keefe is getting better at this.
He ought to get a Pulitzer, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually does.
Comment by Dustin — 3/8/2011 @ 8:52 pm
Would love to see that, but in the meantime am truly hoping that he, and Andrew Breitbart, and Lila Rose etc. are watching their backs and being careful. And I do mean physically.
“Progressives” who face the withdrawal of the government funds they’re so used to don’t take kindly to the threat, and they’ve made abundantly clear lately that not only do they see conservatives as barely human, but deserving of lynching or maiming (cf. “let’s cut off Clarence Thomas’ toes and feed them to him one by one, and hang him and his wife as well”) when they don’t get what they want.
no one you know (e7daa1) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:56 pmNPR’s values are include doing the socialisms for daddy Soros and bleating endlessly about guantanamo and et cetera except for when Barack Obama is president and currently they’re vigorously promoting the concept of “tax expenditures.” Yes propaganda is their highest value, and they need our tax monies to do it.
Without your tax monies National Soros Radio would be but a shell of its dynamic self and Viv Schiller would have to get a real job.
happyfeet (ab5779) — 3/8/2011 @ 8:58 pmAgreed. All the clamor about the right getting violent is projection and puffery. There is a serious risk to anyone brave enough to stick their neck out like this.
Dustin (c16eca) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:07 pmThank Goodness for O’Keefe.
AD-RtR/OS! (a0fcb6) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:08 pmWithout him and his cohorts, if I wanted to watch video of Libs being stupid, I’d have to watch Jon Stewart – who is at least funny.
Oops…”he and his”
AD-RtR/OS! (a0fcb6) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:08 pmHe ought to get a Pulitzer, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually does
I’ll be surprised, not that he doesn’t deserve it, but they normally don’t award it to “his kind”.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/8/2011 @ 9:23 pmThe other “Shoe-ler” has dropped! CEO Vivian.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-cnn-vivian-schiller-npr-resigns,0,7862603.story
elissa (abdade) — 3/9/2011 @ 7:14 amJim says:
That’s our Jim! Always totally and blissfully ignorant of the source material!
Who posed as someone in the above video, genius?
I mean, all you have to do is watch it. Jeez.
So let me get this straight: It’s awful for O’Keefe’a confederates to pose as someone they’re not in order to expose an NPR exec as a boneheaded liberal and NPR as an organization that does not need federal funds, but perfectly fine for someone to impersonate one of the Koch brothers when talking to Walker in WI, in a fruitless effort to dig up dirt?
Patterico (c218bd) — 3/9/2011 @ 7:19 amUnreal. A media site, All Access, is reporting the exit of Vivian Schiller (no-relation-to-Bob) as a response to “denigrating the tea party and conservatives.” Absolutely no mention of the $500M trap or the agreement to accept the brotherhood funds as an alternative to slant of ‘the Zionist media.’ Just unreal.
If ur!nating on conservatives was considered offensive most of the media would be out of work.. including class warfare’s supreme leader, Barack Obama.
Vermont Neighbor (6d8a47) — 3/9/2011 @ 9:47 amYes, that’s about the size of it, if they didn’t have double standards, they would have none at all.
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/9/2011 @ 9:50 amRon Schiller “decides” not to join the Aspen Institute.
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/romenesko/122506/ron-schiller-will-not-be-joining-the-aspen-institute/
elissa (a249ee) — 3/9/2011 @ 10:24 amAnd so now Ronnie is out of a job, as is Vivian Schiller.
Don’t worry, though. I’m sure they’ll have nice jobs at Think Progress any day now.
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:14 amI think the Koch brothers should find positions for each of them, and then they (S+S) can learn first hand how evil and wicked they (Bros. K.) are.
MD in Philly (3d3f72) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:23 amPer above, I wondered whether the Aspen Institute would have second thoughts. I thought he’d be OK, but I guess there was just too much heat to ride it out. A bad week for the Schiller’s. Three jobs lost in the last two days!
Occam (2d9853) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:25 amJim, grow up. The stupid thing about the fake Koch phone prank on Walker were twits like you falsely claiming that Walker had said anything scandalous in the call.
Seriously, grow the freak up.
SPQR (26be8b) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:25 amBut if we defund Public Radio, I will have to listen to commercials when I ride in cabs. That’s outrageous.
carlitos (01d172) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:27 am@Occam – Three Schiller’s lost their jobs?
Isn’t it more accurate to say that two of them lost three jobs? 🙂
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:28 amI’m sure the koch brow won’t be the people that will purchase WI public utilities at discounted prices because of Walker’s idiotic bill. (rolls eyes)
Chris Hooten (24973f) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:35 amIf it’s true Vivian Schiller was forced out, is the NPR board trying to save its federal funding by cleaning house? Or does O’Keefe have more?
DRJ (fdd243) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:39 amI have a hard time believing that she’s the type to fall on her sword and take one for the team, unless she’s getting a very nice payment upon her departure.
How do we go about finding out what her severance package is?
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:41 amOh, but how dare O’Keefe claim he posed as a Moslem? Did he dress up in a robe and keffiyeh? No, he did not! Claiming he did is a lie lie lying wingnut lie. It discredits the video and everything it contains, because O’Keefe was wearing normal western clothes and was not at all in fancy dress as he claims. Everybody knows that investigative journalism has a strict dress code, suitable for going undercover at a masquerade or Purim party. Bob Woodward wore a clown suit, and Upton Sinclair spent his two weeks of research in Chicago dressed as a cow. Besides, Koch Kochetty Koch. And Bush.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:48 amI don’t see how either of those things could possibly be lawful. NPR is a not-for-profit corporation; it has no shareholders and distributes no dividends. How can Congress “strip” it of that status on the basis of the content of its broadcasts, let alone on the basis of its former executives’ opinions? As for confiscating its license, surely its property rights are just as secure as those of any other broadcaster.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 11:57 amAre they getting value for the money? Do you have reason to believe they’re not? What makes this more suspect than any other item in the recruitment budget? Are superbowl ads more legitimate in your eyes?
Like any other military expenditure this shouldn’t escape scrutiny, but bear in mind that the existing audit and scrutiny requirements already at least double the cost of everything the military buys. More such requirements will surely increase the cost yet again. Compliance is not free.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:02 pmUm, there was no cheque. Or do you think he has that kind of money to throw around?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:04 pmHe’s not afraid, it’s just not professional. Which other journalist does so?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:16 pmIn a word, yes.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:26 pmI wouldn’t hold my breath. Not with the current Pulitzer committee. If there’s ever a change in that august body, then justice would be served if they pulled Duranty’s prize and gave it to O’Keefe.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:29 pmIf a utility is for sale, is there a reason Koch subsidiaries shouldn’t bid? Is their money not as green as anyone else’s? If theirs is the high bid then by definition it isn’t discounted, is it? If you think the price is too low, why don’t you outbid them and then flip it? And what influence do you think they could possibly have on Walker, whom neither of them has ever met in their lives, off the strength of a measly $43K in campaign donations?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:37 pmCrissyhooten does not really understand what he is talking about, mihouse. He is just spitting out the latest thinkregress meme.
JD (aa3139) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:42 pmAP:
“WASHINGTON – PBS says it was contacted by the same fake Muslim group that arranged a meeting with an NPR executive and secretly videotaped him calling the tea party racist.
narciso (a3a9aa) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:49 pmPBS spokeswoman Anne Bentley said Wednesday that they had an initial conversation with the Muslim Education Action Center but had concerns about the group. She says a PBS executive was contacted, but when PBS couldn’t confirm the organization’s credentials, they halted discussions.”
Maybe this deserves more than a word:
1. David Koch is a real person. The Muslim Education Action Center does not exist, and therefore nor do any of its purported executives or representatives. Identity theft requires an identity.
2. The difference between a sting and a prank is that a sting offers its target an opportunity to show a predisposition for wrongdoing, while a prank seeks merely to embarrass its target. A successful sting shows that its target is willing to engage in wrongdoing, and sometimes also finds evidence of actual wrongdoing in the past. All a successful prank exposes about its target is that he is not omniscient, telepathic, or paranoid.
O’Keefe and his crew found serious improprieties, and have justly claimed two scalps. What was Paul Fallon hoping to find? In his wildest dreams, what did he think Walker was going to say to a minor campaign donor whom he’d never met and had almost nothing to do with? All he could really get from such a call was yuks, like the idiots who called Sarah Palin pretending to be Sarkozy.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 12:55 pmMilhouse
well, i think paul fallon was hoping to hear walker say, “i have tried to kill the teachers’ unions, like you have asked, sir.” which would be kind of sting like.
to me the only distinction is that they tried to fool them into thinking this is a specific person. i mean koch himself now has to deal with people doubting it is really him on the phone. that isn’t right.
legal insurrection had more on that.
Aaron Worthing (e7d72e) — 3/9/2011 @ 1:01 pmAaron, you mean you think Fallon actually believed the anti-Koch propaganda?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 2:22 pmHere’s the DC law. To the extent O’Keefe caused the NPR executive to lose his job immediately and to lose his job with the Aspen Institute, O’Keefe (and his associates) may have committed criminal fraud.
§ 22-3221. Fraud.
(a) Fraud in the first degree. — A person commits the offense of fraud in the first degree if that person engages in a scheme or systematic course of conduct with intent to defraud or to obtain property of another by means of a false or fraudulent pretense, representation, or promise and thereby obtains property of another or causes another to lose property.
(b) Fraud in the second degree. — A person commits the offense of fraud in the second degree if that person engages in a scheme or systematic course of conduct with intent to defraud or to obtain property of another by means of a false or fraudulent pretense, representation, or promise.
(c) False promise as to future performance. — Fraud may be committed by means of false promise as to future performance which the accused does not intend to perform or knows will not be performed. An intent or knowledge shall not be established by the fact alone that one such promise was not performed.
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Milhouse, you don’t know whether it’s a prank or a sting until it’s over. Fallon may have thought Walker was going to say something incriminating. It’s not like the Kochs were a small donor.
Jim (ad29d8) — 3/9/2011 @ 2:23 pmUm, yes, the Kochs were a small donor. $43K in an election where nearly half a billion was spent is a small donor. And I don’t think all that $43K went to his campaign either; I think that’s the total they donated in Wisconsin.
And what the @#$% are you talking about? Do you know the elements of fraud? Can you make them out here? Do you have any idea whatsoever?
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/9/2011 @ 8:56 pm“Jim” is proving, again, that he eats boogerz. SOP for leftists.
JD (855f87) — 3/9/2011 @ 9:03 pmFraud is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage. Fraud may also be made by an omission or purposeful failure to state material facts, which nondisclosure makes other statements misleading.
–Do you have any idea what the hell you’re talking about, Milhouse?
Jim (ad29d8) — 3/10/2011 @ 5:16 amSo you do know the elements of fraud. Now show how they apply.
Milhouse (1448a4) — 3/10/2011 @ 8:25 am“Jim” is aggressively mendoucheous, mil house. Always.
JD (855f87) — 3/10/2011 @ 8:27 amThe total spend in the Wisconsin gubernatorial race was around $37 million, of which around $12 million was from PACs. It’s ridiculously high, but it’s nowhere near “half a billion.” Walker’s campaign spent around $11 million. The $35 million figure is roughly the same amount spent in the 2010 Wisconsin Senate race.
carlitos (01d172) — 3/10/2011 @ 8:35 amThat would be 0.00390909 %
JD (855f87) — 3/10/2011 @ 8:43 amYeah, I misplaced a decimal point. But was that $43K all for Walker, or was it for the whole state election campaign in Wisconsin, which must have consumed far more than $37M? And even if it was all for Walker, $43K even out of $11M is not that much.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 3/11/2011 @ 1:14 pm