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MSNBC: Guys Carrying Guns to Rallies Are Racists, Especially This Guy Whose Skin Color We Will Now Proceed to Hide from Your View

Filed under: Dog Trainer,General,Obama,Race — Patterico @ 9:54 pm

This is truly amazing, from Newsbusters via Hot Air (also picked up by DRJ briefly below). Watch this video, at least through :40. It’s an MSNBC clip showing a man with an assault rifle outside an Obama rally. The tape is edited so that you can see only the lower half of the body. You cannot see his face.

Then the commentator says:

. . . there are questions about whether this has a racial overtones [sic] I mean here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists, or to their legs.

Now for the punch line. Remember how I noted that the clip was edited so you couldn’t see the guy’s face? Here it is:

Guy with Assault Rifle 1
Above: white man with gun strapped to him

Guy with Assault Rifle 2
Above: even clearer view of a clearly white man

This white man is such a racist, he has himself done up in blackface!


P.S. I heard a radio program last night where Rod Dreher and an editor from the American Spectator both allowed Eric Boehlert and the liberal host to tar Republicans with the “they call Obama a Nazi!” brush. The American Spectator editor, to his credit, pointed out that Bush was called a Nazi for years, but nobody piped up to mention that the Obama/Nazi crazies always turn out to be LaRouche supporters.

Allahpundit has done a great job reminding us of a few points we all need to keep in mind as the Eric Boehlerts and Tim Ruttens of the world try to paint Republicans as fanatics who uniquely demonize the president as a Nazi, call for him to be killed, and such:

  • There were lots and lots and lots of death threats against Bush at anti-war rallies and such for years. Here’s one example; many, many more at the link:


  • Pictures of Obama with a mustache have turned out to be wielded by crazy LaRouche supporters, time and time and time again.

  • We have a Congressman who calls Republicans “the enemy” and says that Sen. Grassley’s criticism of ObamaCare was “an act of treason.”

But never mind that. Republicans are the crazies!

Oh, and the racists with guns.

MSNBC told me so.


  1. If Boehlert has ever put out an honest piece, I have yet to see it.

    Comment by daleyrocks (718861) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:02 pm

  2. I think Jeffy Immelt is scum what will take a piss on America for nothing more than to see his hood rat president smile. GE is an un-American and sick sick sick little enterprise I think.

    Comment by happyfeet (d8cd81) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:15 pm

  3. Oh, the media doesn’t care about leftist hate, like Molotov cocktails plotted to disrupt the GOP convention etc., because they agree with the sentiment. So it’s not really new in their minds.

    Comment by Topsecretk9 (ab69ad) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:17 pm

  4. If Boehlert has ever put out an honest piece, I have yet to see it.

    Copy that Daley. He’s paid a lot of Soros money to lie.

    Comment by Topsecretk9 (ab69ad) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:18 pm

  5. If this were a Bush thing and Fox edited the NYT’s dwindling column space would say something like

    “Conservative Network edits anti bush critic on nightly news cast”

    Comment by Topsecretk9 (ab69ad) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:22 pm

  6. I think all of this comes down to the Left’s childish and selfish wish to believe that they themselves are “good.” Thus, if you don’t agree with them, you must be…bad. Things degenerate from there.

    Notice also the consistent theme of “…that’s different!…” regarding issues—in this case, the outrage over nutty people threatening or insulting the current President, and the seeming amnesia about BDS. Or we could talk about ethical lapses among Presidential staffers: when GWB had people that fit that description, boy howdy was their a ruckus. When BO has the same deal going on, crickets chirp in the silence.

    And we hear that Republicans are the “Party of No” (admittedly, from serial fabulists). Well, Democrats are the “Party of Self Serving Hypocrites.”

    Obviously, if it is wrong one way, it is wrong the other. There is a place in the political scene for Left and Right to agree on term limits!

    Comment by Eric Blair (76bb2a) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:22 pm

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  8. Jamie –

    Here’s a hint:

    Less is more.

    Comment by steve miller (c5e78c) — 8/19/2009 @ 10:58 pm

  9. steve – I think that is Jamie’s spambot commenting.

    Comment by daleyrocks (718861) — 8/19/2009 @ 11:03 pm

  10. “the Obama/Nazi crazies always turn out to be LaRouche supporters.”

    Always? ALWAYS?

    I’d be careful of using such absolutes. Rush Limbaugh, for one, compared the Obama health care logo to that of the Third Reich. Victoria Jackson over at Big Hollywood has also been busy making Obama-Hitler comparisons.

    “Well, there was one poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache that was quickly taken down, but that poster seems appropriate since the two have so many similar qualities; the most recent being Obama purposefully stirring up racial conflict with the Gates-Crowley affair. Hitler did that…stirred up racial conflict. Obama’s current attitude toward Israel is in question. Hitler did not support Jews. Obama is forming a volunteer/mandatory Youth Army. Hitler did that. Obama is trying to have government control everything, the media, cars, banks, houses, health. Hitler did that. Obama appointed 44 people (czars) that we didn’t get to vote for. Hitler did that. Obama started a Snitch Program. Hitler did that. Obama wants the government to control who dies and when they die. Hitler did that.”

    Not saying she speaks for everyone, but c’mon.

    Comment by LYT (8fd294) — 8/19/2009 @ 11:05 pm

  11. C’mon, indeed. When you write things like “I’d be careful of using such absolutes,” it is a particularly irony-rich statement.

    Comment by Eric Blair (76bb2a) — 8/19/2009 @ 11:16 pm

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  13. I’m amazed the clowns at MSNBC would falsify a story so badly and so transparently. Are they really that stupid? Don’t they care what laughingstocks they make of themselves?

    Comment by Brad (7eecda) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:41 am

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  15. An edited posting of some B roll? Good try. But then any televised piece involving Contessa Brewer is usually punctuated with errors. You can make a drinking game out of it. She is Fox News talent for sure. More disturbing is the apparent acceptance of angry conservatives openly opposed to the current administration showing up at healthcare forums with loaded weapons. No doubt they attend their NRA meetings brandishing stethoscopes. It’s disturbing, given the history of the U.S. It may be ‘legal’ but the intent to intimidate, especially a a forum that has nothing to do with gun control, is clear but doesn’t show much common sense on the part of conservatives and is embarrassing to the Republican Party, and America. (Just as arresting protestors wearing homemade anti-Bush sweatshirts at a Dubya event was a few years ago.) Even Tom Delay said Wednesday on MSNBC’s ‘Hardball’ that showing up at health care forums with loaded weapons in the proximity of the President of the United States is a security matter and should be prevented. Alert the press, for the first time, I agree with the disgraced Delay, soon to be tripping the light fantastic on “Dancing With The Stars.’

    Comment by DCSCA (9d1bb3) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:15 am

  16. DCSCA – Dude! Put down the bong for a bit, you’re babbling incoherently.

    Comment by Chuck Roast (185d2d) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:47 am

  17. DCSCA- Point of fact: The need for self protection justifies carrying arms. Conservative attendees at these forums have legitimate safety concerns due to the violence perpetrated upon us by SEIU thugs and other 0 “supporters”. If only Kenneth Gladney had been armed…

    Comment by RB (0772e7) — 8/20/2009 @ 3:47 am

  18. DCSCA, you take proof of MSNBC lying, and attribute it to Fox News standards?

    What’s wrong with you? Fox News is juvenile and tabloidish, but I really never hear about them making these kinds of errors. I would bet your life that they have more democrats employed than all the other networks have republicans.

    Please, back up what you say, and let me know when Fox News has done anything similar to this kind of obvious distortion of the truth.

    As far as conservatives showing up armed, well the president told his goons to get in our faces, and some of us are being attacked violently by the angry left. They are always so angry, even when they are in power, about the boogeyman right wing/Fox News/zionism thing. Obama loves terrorists like Ayers and racists like Wright, and his leadership has reflected his preference for violence. He owns SEIU and OfA and we have to at least be very cautious about what we say on in private emails or how we protest when his goons are snapping our photos (a universal tactic of the democrats).

    So now, the goons never know if there’s a gun int the crowd, and the violence from the left has abated out of the left’s constant fear and paranoia. This is a good thing. Let’s be thankful that a few men and women take our freedom of speech seriously enough to defend it.

    Be thankful this tea party hasn’t led to the kind of violence the first one did.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:10 am

  19. “Rush Limbaugh, for one, compared the Obama health care logo to that of the Third Reich.”

    LOL. Rush isn’t saying Obama is Hitler, he’s responding to Nancy Pelosi calling the right wing a bunch of nazis by noting that she’s being willfully blind of who resembles the problems the nazis are a warning to avoid. That’s a little more in depth than what Rush is being credited for.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:13 am

  20. Oh, and don’t make the mistake of conflating the Town Hall protesters with the Republican Party. The GOP is just as lost and confused about what’s happening with the Tea Parties and Town Hall meetings as the donkeys are.

    Comment by RB (0772e7) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:19 am

  21. The same college journalist students ,who cheered the assination attempt of Ronald R. now are the producers of the “mainstream media”,today.Subsequently,it is no shock that this group will you the race card to produce outrage and political paralysis to benefit this current administration.

    Comment by mike191 (fb536a) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:23 am

  22. Comment by DCSCA — 8/20/2009 @ 2:15 am

    Ah, so that’s what you’re calling “coin of the realm.” Thanks for the demonstration.

    Now for a last bit of clarity, whose “realm” were you talking about again?

    Comment by no one you know (1ebbb1) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:31 am

  23. I think all of this comes down to the Left’s childish and selfish wish to believe that they themselves are “good.” Thus, if you don’t agree with them, you must be…bad. Things degenerate from there.
    Comment by Eric Blair — 8/19/2009 @ 10:22 pm

    Quite well put. Not every liberal is like this but way too many are. And the degeneration takes many forms, familiar to most of us here, but ends in the phenomenon described by that quote (I forget who said this) that “conservatives think liberals are wrong, but liberals hate conservatives.”

    Comment by no one you know (1ebbb1) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:36 am

  24. Is Rush Limbaugh a LaRouchie?

    Comment by Karl (8093fd) — 8/20/2009 @ 4:45 am

  25. MSNBC knows that black people can’t be racist.

    Comment by imdw (017d51) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:05 am

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  27. “the Obama/Nazi crazies always turn out to be LaRouche supporters.”

    Or Jonah Goldberg fans.

    Comment by imdw (017d51) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:10 am

  28. I cannot see imdw’s comments. Is it safe to assume that they are “Look! Over there! Something shiny!” kinds of comments he does so well? Just this morning he told us nobody is proposing single-payer, nobody except the Speaker, Barney Franks, Anthony Weiner, and the sec-progg caucus. Imdw no doubt thinks MSNBC was justified in their lies this post is about.

    Comment by JD (0d131e) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:20 am

  29. Karl, while Rush mentioned nazis while discussing the democrats, it’s just not fair to say Rush called Obama a nazi. He was reacting to Nancy Pelosi’s ridiculous comments by noting that while the left often makes that comparison, it’s more apt in the other direction.

    And Rush’s comparison seems to make a lot of sense. The way brownshirts are being sent out to stomp on tea party protestors, the way crisises are being invented and exploited, and the way Obama is being lionized by his followers, create a dangerous system that we should avoid. In short, Rush’s comparison is made with more seriousness and relevance. Nazism really should be looked at to see what we should avoid. Rush doesn’t pretend that Obama is nearly as evil as Hitler. That’s Larouche territory.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:35 am

  30. This year’s GE stockkholder meeting should be hilarious – last year, when one too many stockholders stepped up to the mike to complain to Immelt about MSNBC and NBC’s fawning press to Obama and the Dems, he cut off their mikes and adjourned the meeting. Watch what happens next time – or maybe he’ll p-ssy out like my congresscritters here and never hold the meeting, or claim he really did by doing a closed – door, super – secret “teleconference townhall” with his previously – screened bootlickers asking the questions.

    Comment by Dmac (e6d1c2) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:37 am

  31. Nothing gets in the way of Teh Narrative…Not even the truth.

    Comment by Dan F (393f3f) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:44 am

  32. The MSM theme that any (white) opposition to the President, with or without a gun on hand, is “racist” is baloney.

    The only decent point hiding in there is that it’s probably impolitic to take a gun to rally opposing a non-gun-related proposal by the President.

    Comment by Mitch (69e416) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:45 am

  33. At the company I work for, GE is a two letter swear word.

    Comment by PCD (02f8c1) — 8/20/2009 @ 5:47 am

  34. “An edited posting of some B roll? Good try.”


    The Jane Hamster school of thinking, idiot. Given other channels are running footage of the same thing, you are a moron. It’s like tour failure to produce your own Susan Roesgen tape.

    Comment by daleyrocks (718861) — 8/20/2009 @ 6:12 am

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  36. MSNBC already has a “race and ethnicity” subsection to its online “U.S. News.”

    Now it has suddenly created as a sub-subsection directed specifically for Blacks. “Grio” is an African word for keeper of the village’s history and the website’s motto is (paraphrasing) “our news, our story, our perspective.” Apparently, Blacks speak with one voice and need their own little corner away from the rest of us to get news.

    I would love to know who at MSNBC is spinning the organization in this Black race-centric direction. Who is the power behind this junk?

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  38. I wonder how long before they crop off a terrorists headgear when they show him on TV?

    Comment by Mr. Pink (b4e08f) — 8/20/2009 @ 7:44 am

  39. Still need proof MSDNC is in the tank for Democrats?…

    You shouldn’t, but just in case you do, read this and watch the video clip at that same link for absolute definitive evidence beyond any doubt whatsoever that this network is unashamedly in the tank for Democrats.
    Interestingly enough, this didn….

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  40. “The GOP is just as lost and confused about what’s happening with the Tea Parties and Town Hall meetings as the donkeys are.”

    Bingo! Irony of ironies: Karl Rove is out of the picture, and no one in the GOP knows how to ride this bronc.

    Comment by cassandra in MT (5a5d33) — 8/20/2009 @ 8:36 am

  41. Comment by Dmac — 8/20/2009 @ 5:37 am

    That would, of course, be illegal, and open him up to charges by the SEC.

    Stockholders are, by law, entitled to attend the meeting. Even one share is enough.

    Though I suggest they bring a bullhorn to share, should he cut off the mics again.

    Comment by Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 8/20/2009 @ 9:05 am

  42. If the MSM, as evidenced by MSNBC’s flagrantly doctored (and easily refuted) and slanted report, can’t even get what’s-in-front-of-their-noses correct, how can anyone trust what they report on the actual Healthcare debate?

    If I were them, I’d see a lawyer about that J-school degree for which they are still carrying the student loans.

    Comment by furious (71af32) — 8/20/2009 @ 9:40 am

  43. Both parties are so corrupt that a working government is not workiing. Everyday you find that companies are tied to the Obama administration to make money on health care.
    MSNBC and NBC are in the tank for Obama so anything he does is OK. Even CNN has started to have news stories about Obama that question and not follow his dogma.

    Comment by Nat (168bca) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:27 am

  44. The guy in that picture is not the guy from the newscast.

    They have shown his full face in other publications.

    Not sure where you found this.

    And yes, crazy things were said about Bush during his regime, but his administration actually did consist of war criminals. And I don’t remember anyone holding up signs that said “Death to Bush, his wife, and his two stupid daughters.” There was animosity back then, but it involved a war. This is about providing alternatives to healthcare. Why are guns necessary at these protests?

    And anyone who’s made the comment about “those liberals, this way or that way, always this”… if you stopped believing that each side is so differenent and read some comments on liberal or central publications, you’d see that both sides of the table claim the same exact things about each other. How odd.

    This article isn’t really fantastic journalism on any level. Hyperbole is what’s causing the rudeness and inanity and uproar in our culture. Thanks for contributing in the name of “truth”.

    Comment by you (0b705d) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:31 am

  45. i support the guy with the rifle. he was just showing the rights granted to him in the state of arizonia. he wasn’t doing anyting illegal. we need more people willing to make a stand like that. Obama is a one big ass mistake america

    Comment by s. clark (bd8205) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:34 am

  46. To MSNBC’s credit I did see the photo of the black man with an assault rifle in other portions of their newscast. They may have tried to distort it in this one clip, but they did not do it everywhere.

    Comment by Henry (6abdcf) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:36 am

  47. You should never, ever, use absolutes! Ever! Because they are always wrong.

    Comment by Crazy (32cf35) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:37 am

  48. Fox News is juvenile and tabloidish, but I really never hear about them making these kinds of errors.

    Who was it that relied on forged documents to lie about a sitting President’s military service during an election year?

    And yes, crazy things were said about Bush during his regime, but his administration actually did consist of war criminals.

    Who were the victims of these war crimes?

    Comment by Michael Ejercito (833607) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:40 am

  49. The picture of the African-American with the rifle is not the same person that was at the rally where the President was speaking on Health Care reform and you can clearly see that both weapons are modded diffrently. What reason does anybody have to bring a weapon to a rally or town hall meeting where they are discussing Health Care, it doesn’t make sense. When Bush was in office how many minorities brought pistols and high-powered rifles to his meetings (NONE).

    Comment by Anthony Davis (ad7c3c) — 8/20/2009 @ 11:43 am

  50. The point is more that Jeffy Immelt’s MSNBC shouldn’t put out racist propaganda I think Anthony.

    Comment by happyfeet (71f55e) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:05 pm

  51. About a month ago I started studying ‘Mein Kampf’ and noticed several things – Hitler was a LOT smarter than I was aware, Modern America is a LOT like Weimar Germany, Hitler was very informed about Marxists and their ways (replace ‘Marxist’ with Socialist for the current version), Mein Kampf is both scary and boring, and finally, Our Dear President seems to have studied Hitler’s game book at some point.

    Before anybody reading these blogs disses the Obama-Nazi comparisons, don’t forget the the word ‘Nazi’ is a contraction for National-SOCIALIST German Workers Party: Hitler WAS a Socialist, albeit a very weird one. People are mistaken when they compare Nazis to Conservatives. Nazis were totalitarians (fascists are not Right-wingers).

    Americans, PLEASE do your reading or we repeat history again!

    Comment by Frank Klopstein (6c3b43) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:29 pm

  52. The only problem is that the man with the assault rifle was planted by wingnut teabagger radio host, Ernest Hancock, as he has now admitted. So, yeah, there were racist overtones to the stunt, and the “propoganda” was perpetrated by him.

    Comment by andy (829ca6) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:32 pm

  53. re: “it’s not the same guy:”

    There are more sock puppets in here than a Gleen Grenwald family reunion.

    Comment by carlitos (b5ed79) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:34 pm

  54. Ugh. Godwin beat me to the post again. I gotta start keeping my Patterico tab open all day.

    Comment by carlitos (b5ed79) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:35 pm

  55. The REAL story here is that the guy doing the interview(also wielding a handgun) is a self-described friend and defender of a militia called the “Viper Group”, 12 members of whom were sent to prison for a plot to blow up federal buildings. Look it up.
    The african american man being interviewed talks of armed resistance to taxes and other crazy stuff. So, we have proven that the far right gun nut extremists have become more diverse, yet are just as crazy as ever.

    Comment by seany (027400) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:40 pm

  56. Pelosi has commented about swastikas at these events. However, the swastikas are in a circle with slash over them, in other words, “against”, “no”, “we no like”. Maybe someone should fill her in on what that circle with a slash means.

    Comment by Angry Bear (3c8e91) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:53 pm

  57. There are more sock puppets in here than a Gleen Grenwald family reunion.

    Rick Ellers disagrees with your contention – and so does his friend, Thomas Ellensberg.

    Comment by Dmac (e6d1c2) — 8/20/2009 @ 12:57 pm

  58. I love that liberals are resorting to calling Bush a war criminal again. It doesn’t matter how clear the proof is, even in this obvious case, some people will turn to their insane rage at Bush as a shield from reality. Even when it’s totally irrelevant.

    Isn’t calling Bush a war criminal, without any due process or reasonable discussion, worse than earnestly comparing Obama’s flock to 1933 Germany? Why, of course not… because some nut really really hates Bush. That’s all that matters. Guess what, you guys have the power to investigate Bush now. It’s not plausible that Obama is covering for Bush.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:04 pm

  59. Out: Taken out of context.
    In: It’s not the same guy.

    Comment by EBJ (2fd7f7) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:06 pm

  60. The REAL STORY is that Contessa Brewer has something on her chin.

    Comment by happyfeet (71f55e) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:13 pm

  61. I wouldn’t use Obama as Hitler.
    Hitler was a very evil person, who worked hard to conquer the world.

    I would use Mussolini – a buffoon, who had to use poison gas to beat the Ethopians (who were armed with spears), then lost to the Greeks, and finally was strung up by his own countrymen.

    Comment by Dave (b210e8) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:27 pm

  62. LA Times “News Analysis” – Opposition to ObamaCara: “undoubtedly race-related.”

    I don’t know why, but I picked up the LA Times today (my wife insists we get it for the weekend), and went to this “News Analysis” on ObamaCara. Three, short paragraphs in you find out that opposition, or as they put it “antagonism,” to ObamaCare is “undoubtedly race-related.” Line up the usual LA Times suspects.

    Same as it ever was, Same as it ever was. Same as it ever WAS.

    Comment by MikeHu (e9e89c) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:44 pm

  63. @Juan I don’t know about bush as “war criminal”, but how ’bout Tom Ridge now admitting that the bush administration pressured him to make false terrorist warnings just so bush could get reelected? Does that make Ridge “some nut” who just really, really hates bush?

    Comment by andy (829ca6) — 8/20/2009 @ 1:46 pm

  64. andy, you don’t know about the Tom Ridge accusation, either. That book hasn’t been released yet. But I sincerely doubt that there’s anything to it. Sounds like yet another big promise before an awful book is released that is meant to drum up at least a few sales before the public realizes there’s nothing there.

    My recollection of the time you’re talking about is that a recent Bin Laden tape had promised bombings, and we had some kind of fear about a train bombing. So perhaps there was some justification for Bush to pressure his executive branch to do what bush wanted. We’ll have to see. but the fact is, you and I have no idea what Tom Ridge is talking about yet. So if that’s your case, you aren’t going to win right now.

    EBJ, I agree this is amusing. But it sure looks like the same guy to me. It certainly is bizarre how MSNBC cuts out the skin color of the man.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:06 pm

  65. Rick Ellers disagrees with your contention – and so does his friend, Thomas Ellensberg.

    Well, it’s not like Ellensburg’s comments have been read on the floor of the Senate, or that he wrote the definitive New York Times best-selling book on Bush’s abuses of power, and that he had one of the most-read blogs on the Internet, after only 9 months of blogging, or that his blog postings lead to front-page newspaper stories…. No, he’s not as important as some anonymous commenter “DMac” on a site anonymously called “patterico,” is he? He’s not important like those guys. Heck, he probably never even smelled Rush Limbaugh or met Werner Von Braun, unlike some people around here.

    Good day, sir!

    Comment by Ellison (b5ed79) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:07 pm

  66. Oh, and Andy, it seems you’re lying to drastically exaggerate what Tom Ridge has said. Sorry, but it looks like you’re just obsessed and not thinking straight. Bush kept you safe for years. We can laugh about the dumb color coded system, but it was a serious matter for a while. If you really voted for bush because the threat level was elevated, or no anyone else who did, then I would be shocked.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:10 pm

  67. LOL, no=know.

    Comment by Juan (bd4b30) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:10 pm

  68. The guy in that picture is not the guy from the newscast.

    They have shown his full face in other publications.

    Yes it clearly is, watch the video again. Same red dot, you can even see the pocket he has the extra magazine in also bulging out. Not to mention same pants and same belt…

    Comment by nick (a08a23) — 8/20/2009 @ 2:39 pm

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  70. I see the spin orders have been given out to the trolls.

    They’ve shelved the “Out Of Context!” claim, and are going with variations of “It’s not the same guy” and “Even if it was, and we’re not saying he is, he’s a racist fascist Reich-wing Rethuglikkkan”!.

    It’d be less pathetic if it wasn’t so predictable.

    Comment by Techie (482700) — 8/20/2009 @ 3:51 pm

  71. [...] Townhalls, MSM Silent… But Attacking Joe the Plumber Was A-OK Patterico’s Pontifications: MSNBC: Guys Carrying Guns to Rallies Are Racists, Especially This Guy Whose Skin Color We Will Now P… Cyber Cossack: Main Stream Media Whitewashes Black Man Lux Libertas, Light and Liberty: MSNBC’s [...]

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  72. Yes I saw the picture. Yes “the brother” has a nice haircut. However I found it cute that–he was the one allowed to carry the AR-15. that was “very American” of the rally organizer. “thumbs up”.

    Comment by john doe (50b681) — 8/20/2009 @ 6:26 pm

  73. Note how the left wing trolls are trying to change the subject. The fact is MSNBC faked the news, and there is NO defense for that.

    The story was just a small segment on MSNBC, but the ethical violation of the fake story, abided by exploiting a carefully edited video, is just as bad as the exploitation of the faked TANG documents that killed Dan Rather’s career.

    Comment by Brad (7eecda) — 8/20/2009 @ 8:42 pm

  74. I am shocked to find that PMSNBC has fabricated another story!
    Guess they ran out of exploding pick-up trucks?

    Comment by AD - RtR/OS! (37c4be) — 8/20/2009 @ 9:46 pm

  75. 74, AD, yes, all those Chevys with side saddle tanks were traded in for “Cash for Clunkers”. Well, almost all. I know where 2 are sitting with the dreaded, evil 454 cubic inch engines! (Insert stereotypical evil laugh track)

    Comment by PCD (02f8c1) — 8/21/2009 @ 5:47 am

  76. And then there’s the black guy who sockpuppeted himself as some white klansman, threatened another black guy to, “get a reaction.”


    Comment by Justin T. (9828c0) — 8/21/2009 @ 11:20 am

  77. [...] But don’t blame him, it seems the media actively hid this fact. [...]

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  78. [...] spin Stop The ACLU: MSNBC Lie to Perpetuate Racial Tensions Patterico’s Pontifications: MSNBC: Guys Carrying Guns to Rallies Are Racists, Especially This Guy Whose Skin Color We Will Now P… Fire Andrea Mitchell!: MSNBC’s way of “generally speaking” is editing videos not showing the [...]

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  79. [...] that’s unfortunately defended by the US constitution and state law. Oh, and one of the guys who did was black, so it’s not a racial thing. to attempting to tar him by association with ACORN, Bill Ayers [...]

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  80. [...] Tim Rutten argued that the criticism of the president was violent and hysterical — but somehow forgot to note that there had been violent and hysterical criticism of Bush. I reminded him. [...]

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  81. [...] Breitbart also reminds us how members of the MSM have willingly participated in similar hoaxes in the past—specifically MSNBC cutting off a Tea Party protester’s head in a shot, who was carrying a gun to a protest, in …. [...]

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  82. [...] Breitbart also reminds us how members of the MSM have willingly participated in similar hoaxes in the past—specifically MSNBC cutting off a Tea Party protester’s head in a shot, who was carrying a gun to a protest, in …. [...]

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