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9/6/2008

Andrew Sullivan: Sarah Palin is Too “Fragile” to Face the Media

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 3:56 pm



Ed Morrissey:

Just spitballing here, but what stereotypes of naughty women have the media and the lunatics missed? So far, they’ve made [Palin] out to be a slut, a b***h, a beauty-queen airhead, and an unfit mother. She’s obviously not frigid, so that smear won’t work. How many other demeaning gender-based slurs can they throw her way?

How about “fragile”? Here’s Andrew “RAWMUSLGLUTES” Sullivan:

One vice-presidential candidate is too fragile to talk to the press.

Hint: Sullivan is not talking about the male vice-presidential candidate.

By the way . . . from Hot Air comes Palin’s schedule for today:

Saturday, September 6, 2008
Colorado and New Mexico

10:00am Media Interview
10:30am Satellite into AARP Convention
11:30am Media Interview
12:30pm MT “The Road to Victory Rally”
Colorado Springs, CO
1:45pm MT Depart Colorado
2:50pm MT Arrive NM
3:30pm MT Media Interviews
7:00pm MT “The Road to Victory Rally”
Albuquerque Convention Center

(All emphasis in this post is mine.)

“Fragile” indeed.

Remember, Sullivan was one of the fools who lowered expectations for Palin’s speech by continually insinuating that she was a bubblehead former beauty queen. Then Palin gave a speech that the New York Times described as “electrifying” (before editing that term out of the final copy) and Sullivan and his cohorts looked like fools.

To the extent that there is a period of relative media silence from Palin — she is seeing her son off to Iraq in a few days — that will give the Sullivans of this world an opportunity to go around lowering expectations again, by insinuating that she is little more than a former sportscaster who reads a speech well, but can’t speak articulately.

Then she’ll prove them wrong again, and the critics will look stupid all over again. I see no downside here.

Some wonder why I keep linking and discussing Sullivan. I explain here.

UPDATE: Commenter steve says:

Sarah Palin is answering reporters’ questions three times today? It’s more likely McCain campaign boss Rick Davis is putting out a spokesman for media interviews after CO and NM rallies. A Q&A session leading up to the AARP satellite appearance would have been mentioned SOMEWHERE by now.

He could be right. The one-line “Media Interview” description does not necessarily mean that Sarah Palin is answering questions yet. But anyone who thinks she’s too “fragile” to do so a) is sexist and b) knows nothing about her. When the times comes, whenever that is, she’ll do fine.

126 Responses to “Andrew Sullivan: Sarah Palin is Too “Fragile” to Face the Media”

  1. Now I know where love2008 is copying talking points from … eeyuuuw.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  2. And of course “fragile” is an adjective that would never be ascribed to a male candidate. Never.

    Icy Truth (5b3d64)

  3. Sorry for double posting, but I think everyone should just e-mail Our Mr. Sullivan with his own quotes about privacy. And thought it may not matter, write to the editor of the TNR about hypocrites on his staff.

    The suggestion might be made that Mr. Sullivan is a bit too close to this situation to be impartial. And while he has every right to his own opinion, he needs to put his recent hyperbole into context with his own previous statements about his own personal life.

    Oh, it won’t make any difference. But I detest hypocrites.

    Eric Blair (2708f4)

  4. write to the editor of the TNR about hypocrites on his staff.

    — Isn’t hypocrisy a job requirement at The New Republic?

    Icy Truth (5b3d64)

  5. Sarah Palin is too busy seeing her oldest son off to Iraq to speak to MSNBC? Proof that her duties as a mom will keep her from performing the duties of her office!

    (channeling inner moonbat)

    fat tony (509000)

  6. Proof that her duties as a mom will keep her from performing the duties of her office!

    Or proof that she is a good mom! :)

    Dana (084de8)

  7. 10:00am Media Interview
    10:30am Satellite into AARP Convention
    11:30am Media Interview
    12:30pm MT “The Road to Victory Rally”
    Colorado Springs, CO
    1:45pm MT Depart Colorado
    2:50pm MT Arrive NM
    3:30pm MT Media Interviews
    7:00pm MT “The Road to Victory Rally”
    Albuquerque Convention Center

    Anyone got links to transcripts? I’m not finding anything anywhere on-line.

    Thanks in advance.

    Peter (e70d1c)

  8. Sarah Palin is answering reporters’ questions three times today? It’s more likely McCain campaign boss Rick Davis is putting out a spokesman for media interviews after CO and NM rallies. A Q&A session leading up to the AARP satellite appearance would have been mentioned SOMEWHERE by now.

    steve (b13348)

  9. “And of course “fragile” is an adjective that would never be ascribed to a male candidate. Never.

    Comment by Icy Truth — 9/6/2008 @ 4:12 pm”

    I must disagree! I think “fragile ego” is a rahther perfect description of One candidate!

    Dan S (438146)

  10. Either AIDS or syphallis is rotting power glutes brain!

    Bob Reed (99fc1b)

  11. steve,

    You may be right. I have updated.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  12. I think could be, in part, a sandbag strategy by the McCain campaign to drive the media crazy and fuel speculation that she doesn’t know how to give an interview — because it will lower expectations, and they’re confident she’ll do fine.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  13. Patterico:

    He could be right. The one-line “Media Interview” description does not necessarily mean that Sarah Palin is answering questions yet. But anyone who thinks she’s too “fragile” to do so a) is sexist and b) knows nothing about her. When the times comes, whenever that is, she’ll do fine.

    Maybe she’d be answering more questions if they weren’t all Trig Trutherism / “Where did your daughter learn to be such a slut” / “Why aren’t you taking care of your kids” bullsh*t.

    Sullivan complains that Bill Kristol hasn’t been talking about Palin’s policy positions. Which is probably because nobody is talking about her policy positions; they’re too busy speculating about her daughter’s torrid affairs.

    It’s like tennis: give her a good serve, and she’ll return it like a pro. Keep hitting sh*t into the net, and she isn’t going to swing at it.

    CliveStaples (a5c5c4)

  14. “He could be right. The one-line “Media Interview” description does not necessarily mean that Sarah Palin is answering questions yet.”

    And you’re a lawyer? You really weren’t aware of her hiding from the press?

    “But anyone who thinks she’s too “fragile” to do so a) is sexist and b) knows nothing about her.”

    I think “cowardly” is more accurate. You’d almost think she has something to hide.

    “When the times comes, whenever that is, she’ll do fine.”

    The time is now. It’s less than 60 days til the election.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  15. Just to be clear on my last post. I do not believe Palin is the coward.

    It is the McCain campaign that is cowardly.

    I’m sure Governor would readily agree to press interviews. Though it is quite clear she is not ready even close to being ready.

    The evidence? They are hiding her.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  16. Did you call Obama “cowardly” when he was not doing interviews during the primaries? Why do I suspect not?

    SPQR (26be8b)

  17. Harpy – I am quite certain that Gov. Palin neither seeks or desires your guidance.

    JD (5f0e11)

  18. Especialy when you know how ruthless these miserble bunch of left-wing journalists are when it comes to conservatives

    Krazy Kagu (1539cf)

  19. I think “cowardly” is more accurate. You’d almost think she has something to hide.
    — In your case, I think “running scared” is more accurate. One’d almost think you have nothing to show.

    The time is now. It’s less than 60 days til the election.
    — The time is whenever she says it is. The countdown to the end of Obama bin Biden continues.

    Icy Truth (5b3d64)

  20. Someone in Kansas is pissed enough to start a blog dedicated to encouraging people to cancel their subscriptions to the Atlantic. Cancel Your Atlantic.

    Thomas the Wraith (e254db)

  21. jharp, are you and commenter i like america on the Palin and Parenting thread one and the same? Because you are both repeating the same mantra, almost verbatim and its a bit coincidental… however, I’ll respond to your,

    ‘I think “cowardly” is more accurate. You’d almost think she has something to hide.

    …like I did to the same accusation of Palin by i like america,

    You silly twit! Stop this obsessive projecting. Just because the left trembles and hides out, don’t assume the right does. We are not all like you. The other thing we don’t do is assume the worst of a person. We like to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven wrong. Its an admirable quality. You might want to look into it.

    When Obama has the activity of his reproductive organs analyzed by the MSM and demands made for his DNA to prove his daughters are really his, then the left has a valid complaint if Palin doesn’t jump at the request of the press. He has not endured anything comparable to what she has this past week and its very telling that people like you may not see the difference. As a woman, that offends me.

    Dana (084de8)

  22. @Dana

    I just forgot about you .. but glad to know you thought about me. It’s sweet in a sad sort of way.

    I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be “projecting” when I say “strength does not hide.”

    You should try again .. try harder. Take a break, stretch your legs, drink a red bull. You’re blowing it

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  23. “You really weren’t aware of her hiding from the press?”

    Yes, because she has not deigned to immediately succumb and prostrate herself to her supposed betters, she must be hiding! (cue Black helicopters). Usually at this point I’d call Harpy something like a douchebag, but that wouldn’t be fair to actual bags of douche.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  24. The only folks complaining that she is hiding from the press are at MSNBC. However, being intervied by MSNBC would be the same as being interviewed by the Obamam campaign staff, and equally as pointless. The McCain/Palin campaign has better things to do with their time.

    SteveS (86f7a1)

  25. Personally, I hope they keep her under wraps all the way up to the election. That would serve the MSM right!

    Incidentally, it would also absolutely kill the GOP’s chances of winning.

    The baby Trig stuff is already dying down. It’s old, as is the counterpunch that this is all that’s being asked of Palin. The idea that she’s being victimized by the media meanies is dying on the vine for all but the real wingnuts.

    CNN did a big piece on Troopergate as well as a ‘who is Sarah Palin’ piece on Friday. Both were very even-handed, but relied on third parties because obviously Palin herself isn’t available (she probably wouldn’t be able to discuss Troopergate anyway, but the bio piece she could have done). Even Fox has to resort to talking to third parties to get Palin bio material. Everybody but her is appearing on the Sunday gabfests – Obama, Biden, McCain.

    It really is starting to look like they’re scared of putting her out there, Patterico. Or at the very least that they’re milking the MSM victimizing of Palin angle for all it’s worth.

    Obviously that changes when she does do some interviews. I think she will wind up doing them, and probably do okay.

    Since I support Obama, I’d love it if she never says word one to a reporter, though.

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  26. ‘I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be “projecting.”’

    “Mommy, what is this big word? It’s soo hard and it looks really big, and I don’t understand it – is it something like a movie thingy?

    “It’s sweet in a sad sort of way.”

    And you’re sad in a pathetic sort of way. Actually, not sort of pathetic – all pathetic.

    “You’re blowing it.”

    Another classic case of (there’s that big word again) “projection” – but please no more details about whom or what you may be blowing at this particular point in time.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  27. Icy,

    The time is now. It’s less than 60 days til the election.
    – The time is whenever she says it is.

    That is for the voters to decide.

    So I guess if she decides November 1st is the time you’re OK with that.

    Coming from a right winger I am not the least bit surprised.

    She’s anti choice. Simple enough for the lesser brained among us.

    jharp (ef54fc)

  28. Now I know where love2008 is copying talking points from …

    The question is, where’s Sullivan getting them?

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  29. @Dmac

    Is that as clever as you can be .. I’m disappointed in you again.

    Oh and you were too busy acting childish to address how “strength does not hide” is a projection on my part.

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  30. I think could be, in part, a sandbag strategy by the McCain campaign to drive the media crazy and fuel speculation that she doesn’t know how to give an interview — because it will lower expectations, and they’re confident she’ll do fine.

    Not to mention that it’s a time-out. You don’t reward a willful child for misbehaving by giving him what he wants. She is a mother of 5, after all…

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  31. The idea that she’s being victimized by the media meanies is dying on the vine for all but the real wingnuts.

    You’d better hope so.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  32. “It really is starting to look like they’re scared of putting her out there, Patterico.”

    Yes, another deity of what’s right and proper in the world comes to lecture us regarding his great thoughts and meanderings. No doubt he’s correct in his personal and highly subjective timeline -“hey, everyone else is blathering away 24/7, whyyyyyy not Palin?” (cue dog whistle)

    Your strategy of an all – out whinefest in order to compel a candidate for the second highest office in the country to do something that may not be in her best interests is admirable. But your talents are being wasted here – I beg you to go! Go now, and preach your gospel of correctness and absolute certitude towards the great media gods that are being denied by that cowardly woman!

    Dmac (e639cc)

  33. I just forgot about you .. but glad to know you thought about me. It’s sweet in a sad sort of way.

    Thats okay, ila, I don’t mind being forgettable and yes, I did think of you, and while I’m not concerned with whether thats sweet of me or not, thanks!

    I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be “projecting” when I say “strength does not hide.”

    First of all, you do too know…but just to amuse you, you are operating under the assumption that because you have not seen/heard Palin interviewed, then no one else possibly could have seen Palin interviewed either ergo, she must be hiding out.

    OMG! Not only projecting but also committing the logical fallacy of hasty generalization. Heh.

    Dana (084de8)

  34. The MSM will soon report that Sarah Palin:

    – Brought AIDS to America.
    – Drove the truck that killed Biden’s first wife.
    – Killed aliens trying to make peaceful contact with the world.
    – Caused crop failures and famine in Africa.
    – Fixed the Superbowel.
    – Dynamited the levies in New Orleans.
    – Bakes cookies with too much sugar.
    – Failed to indicate a left turn while driving to work (Twice!)

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  35. PS Obama, Biden and McCain all stepped up for dozens or more high-stakes debates in the primary season, plus however many hundreds of media interviews they’ve done collectively since this whole shebang kicked off last fall.

    All of them have had to stupid, demeaning shit like raising their hands like schoolkids in response to some asshole moderator’s yes-or-no question. Obama especially has had to answer questions of dubious import, regarding flag pins and such.

    All but Palin have stepped up and faced down the tough, at times even hostile or demeaning questioning that has been part of this months-long job interview process for the presidency.

    Unfortunately for Palin, that process has to be condensed considerably, because nobody knows who the fuck she is. It’d be really nice for the GOP if American voters were willing to swallow their PR pap about Palin without asking for independent verification. But most voters aren’t that stupid.

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  36. “Oh and you were too busy acting childish to address how “strength does not hide” is a projection on my part…”

    Your self – assumed intelligence would be more credible if you could post one thing that was actually grammatically correct.

    As for the second part, it’s something called “self – explanatory.” I’d ask you to look it up, but you don’t appear to be the type to have done much reading in your lifetime (aside from bathroom walls).

    Dmac (e639cc)

  37. “Simple enough for the lesser brained among us.”

    I disagree with the Governor on that issue – but I’m starting to wish your mother had followed through with the opposite reaction.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  38. @Dana

    Maybe I was too harsh to you just now. No insults are coming. I like the way you responded.

    ..playtime over..

    Look, if the Big Bad Bullies come to your house and call you out, you go out and fight them if you are strong.

    Well the Big Bad Bullies are outside and Palin isn’t coming out.

    Whether she’s scared or not is irrelevant. She LOOKS scared and my assertion remains valid (and I might add projection-free):

    Strength does not hide

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  39. It makes me sad to see how low Andrew Sullivan has sunk. I am a long time reader of the Daily Dish and defended him many times from Ace, Jonah, Barnett, and others. Well, I have to say they were right and I was wrong. Sullivan is insane with his Palin Derangement Syndrome (which is really more “Oh **** Barack Could Lose!” Syndrome).

    I do not care he supports Obama (hell half my friends and family support Obama). I do not care if he asks tough quesations. But lying about her family? I just cannot believe he will so overtly lie, then justify it by smugly and self rightously claiming he is engaging in “vetting” that McCain recklessly did not do. What a crock of…well it is sad to see The Atlantic sink so low.

    Joe (8102a5)

  40. The Obama Cult of Personality moves from one set of failed talking points to another.

    It is pretty hilarious.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  41. “…because nobody knows who the fuck she is.”

    Yet another sign of your superior intelligence – pray tell us now, do you always phrase your brilliance with the “F” word, or is that your preferred way of talking in general?

    “…for independent verification. But most voters aren’t that stupid.”

    Yes, no doubt that you’re smarter than that. After all, why the fuck wouldn’t you be?

    Dmac (e639cc)

  42. @Dmac

    Personal attacks are the easiest to make – so you should be able to make them funny. Or mean. Or something.

    But yours are just lame

    Again I ask: Do you ever win?

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  43. All but Palin have stepped up and faced down the tough, at times even hostile or demeaning questioning that has been part of this months-long job interview process for the presidency.

    “How do you respond to the very solid rumors that you faked your pregn– Hey, where the hell do you think you’re going?”

    Unfortunately for Palin, that process has to be condensed considerably, because nobody knows who the fuck she is.

    So it’s McCain’s fault for not telling everybody about his surprise. You’re smart.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  44. Yes, no doubt that you’re smarter than that. After all, why the fuck wouldn’t you be?

    ‘Stupid’ was probably the wrong word. More accurate would be that most Americans aren’t GOP fanboys. And the statistics bear that out; neither are most Americans Dem fanboys.

    An analogy would be to microprocessors. There are Intel fanboys and AMD fanboys, but most buyers aren’t either of those things. So prior to a big product release Intel and AMD have to send their new chips out to independent hardware reviewers in the media, as well as sending samples to the computer makers. The fanboys might not care about the independent reviews, but the average buyer does.

    Nov. 3 is the GOP’s product release for Sarah Palin. If they don’t send her out first to be independently reviewed, only the fanboys are going to vote for her on election day.

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  45. I think “Media Interviews” are times when Palin is available to the media but it may be limited to the embedded media traveling with the campaign:

    “Top newspaper reporters will be on the trail with her day after day, including The Washington Post’s Juliet Eilperin. The New York Times will have a rotating cast, beginning with Monica Davey.

    And each network will have an off-air producer, or embed, devoted to the Palin beat: Matt Berger (NBC/ National Journal), Shushannah Walshe (Fox), Imtiyaz Delawala (ABC), Scott Conroy (CBS), and Peter Hamby (CNN). The bigger-name, on-air correspondents will also be on the road with Palin from time to time.

    Sam Feist, CNN’s political director, said that since Palin has had to focus on regional issues as Alaska’s governor, he expects she’ll begin with media avails on the road and only offer wide-ranging interviews after getting thoroughly prepared for them by the campaign.”

    DRJ (7568a2)

  46. ‘Stupid’ was probably the wrong word.

    Don’t worry, we haven’t come to expect precision of thought from you.

    Nov. 3 is the GOP’s product release for Sarah Palin. If they don’t send her out first to be independently reviewed, only the fanboys are going to vote for her on election day.

    Someone should tell that to the general public.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  47. Maybe I was too harsh to you just now. No insults are coming. I like the way you responded.

    Gee ILA, I’m flattered because you know I always want to please. That’s the mantra of we the fragile. And I’m so glad no insults are coming because that’d have me shaking in my kitten heels.

    Here’s the deal: while one person may assume she’s being fearful in not facing the big bad bullies when they are demanding it, another person may just as likely assume she is using prudence and discretion in making her decisions re interviews.

    Its funny that what you see as the appearance of fear, I see as someone taking her time to make sound decisions (i.e. control).

    Why should she do interviews with people who have had the temerity and indecency to scrutinize what should be off-limits with any candidate?

    Why should she have to jump when she’s being bullied and told to jump?

    Now ila, wrap your mind around this: quite possibly what you are witnessing is an independent woman with a mind of her own. Take your time, digest it… now, perhaps she is deciding when and where she will be interviewed and not some media dolt.

    Perhaps, an independent woman like her is unrecognizable to you. Consider yourself in the learning curve, k?

    Dana (084de8)

  48. “Again I ask: Do you ever win?”

    I’ve been here for awhile, and most of the gang here seems to be OK with it – but the others obviously hate your guts, with a passion.

    So tell me again what your definition of what “winning” actually entails. Should be interesting, to say the least.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  49. All but Palin have stepped up and faced down the tough, at times even hostile or demeaning questioning that has been part of this months-long job interview process for the presidency.

    Like when Obama flounced out of a pressser after eight questions.

    Karl (1b4668)

  50. Aristophanes, you obviously have been hiding from recent polling.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  51. I love the smell of Leftist fear.

    JD (5f0e11)

  52. “Perhaps, an independent woman like her is unrecognizable to you.”

    You’re under a false assumption, Dana – he obviously has never met an actual woman in the first place. Aside from his mommy, that is.

    Dmac (e639cc)

  53. Yeah, McCain got the biggest audience of any acceptance speech because of his natural charisma…

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  54. @Dana

    Your popularity with me was short but special.

    I’d say I’ll remember it but I don’t want to insult the moment.

    Anywho..

    I’m strong and I’m taunting you – the way to be in control like Palin is to NOT respond to my obvious trolling.

    Does this mean you’re not an independent woman or that you’re just gullible.. who knows? Who cares?

    Bullies don’t understand nuance. Bullies understand strength.

    Avoiding conflict is not a display of strength

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  55. Fragile? WTF?!! Of all the idiotic comments about Sarah Palin, fragile has to the one furthest from the truth. Just ask an Alaskan moose, if Sarah’s fragile. Some how fragile and field dressing a moose don’t go hand in hand.

    Jabba the Tutt (026923)

  56. @Dmac

    Really? Mommy jokes? You had to go to mommy jokes?

    You really never do win. You’re my new favorite kicking boy of the evening.

    Collect your prize:
    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/Skorp88/EmoStudent/EmoPussies.jpg

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  57. Avoiding conflict is not a display of strength

    Not wrestling with pigs in the mud is a display of hygiene, though.

    nk (21731d)

  58. I’m strong and I’m taunting you – the way to be in control like Palin is to NOT respond to my obvious trolling.

    gosh, ila, hate to break to you but I don’t feel the least bit taunted. I guess if I felt I were not in control, I would indeed feel taunted and upset, being fragile, y’know…but um, not so much.

    And while we’re at it, you flatter yourself – I don’t respond to trolls for their benefit but rather my own. It causes me to think through the issue and get the gray matter circulating. I’m sorry to disappoint you.

    Bullies don’t understand nuance. Bullies understand strength.

    I think the problem is here is the definition of strength. You think it must be a strongarm in-your-face confrontation. I suggest that strength can just as equally be evidenced by first a well well thought-out plan followed by action.

    Power, ila, is strength controlled.

    Dana (084de8)

  59. @nk

    Great one-liner.

    The cost of hygine is pretty high here .. Palin can stay clean at the cost of looking weak.

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  60. I’m strong

    Try soap.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  61. @Dana

    I’m taunting you whether you understand it or not. Whether you like it or not. Whether you admit it or not. I’m taunting you. And you’re responding every time.

    The media is doing the same to Palin – if she’s as clever as you, I agree – she should keep quiet

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  62. ila – Dana is bitch slapping you, nicely.

    JD (5f0e11)

  63. ila, quite obviously you do not know me.

    Thanks for playing. :)

    Dana (084de8)

  64. @JD

    Join in the fun. Maybe I’ll make you my next whipping boy

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  65. @Dana

    Yes, go hide. I’ve had my fun with you anyway

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  66. I liked ila’s single, unforgettable scene in this comedy classic.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  67. @nk

    Great one-liner.

    The cost of hygine is pretty high here ..

    Just exactly how much do you charge, i like america?

    nk (21731d)

  68. Dear ila, alas, we really have to stop meeting like this.

    Dana (084de8)

  69. @Dana

    You know you like it

    @nk

    .

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  70. What I don’t understand is why Mensa Masters like ila feel if it hurts the McCain/Palin ticket for Palin not to grant broad instantaneous media access they are insisting that she do it.

    It’s typical circular progtard reasoning. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

    Maybe the Obama-Media ticket supporters are just looking out for our best interests.

    Yeah, that must be it.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  71. Nov. 3 is the GOP’s product release for Sarah Palin. If they don’t send her out first to be independently reviewed, only the fanboys are going to vote for her on election day.

    Surely that’s the fault of the liberal MSM, I mean Ms. Palin took part in three…count em THREE scheduled media events today. What the hell is the matter with you? She answered many many questions candidly and knowledgeably. Sticking to the issues and never even once attacking her opponents with cheezy one line zingers lifted from a Wasilla HS Warriors football pep rally, but instead spoke calmly and seriously as befits a woman of her deep and competent abilities on the many many important issues facing Americans so they will be able to make an educated and informed decision on Nov. 4th.

    If you can’t find out what she said, don’t blame the new and improved schizophrenic Uber-Republican party ™that has nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the old failed and corrupt Republican party ™ that according to JM “lost it’s way” and was never really the Republican party anyway, cos they were actually selfish elitist Democrats pretending to be Republicans and he and Palin are going to changethat, because John McCain is the real change candidate for changing the unchanged changer’s that will now change to be the very same change as has always been changed these past 8 to 12 years because there’s been so much change and WILL BE so much change that it’s going to be like everything changes back to what it was before it even changed!!!

    Phew.

    And plus he was a POW. Never EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER forget!

    POW.

    P

    O

    W

    !!

    P—–O—–W.

    pow. P to the O to the W. What does that spell??

    John McCain!!

    POW.

    Now where was I…oh yes…bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran and blame blame blame blame the media, blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame blame the media,blame blame blame the media, You’re getting sleepy, very sleeepy and having dreams of field dressed moose’s w/o organs and oil covered polar bears and nightmarish back stabbing monomaniacal ex-beauty queens who’ve failed out of four colleges who were for bridges to nowhere, before they were against them and you will vote for her…vote for her and John McCAin the Change guy..the only change guy there ever was or anyone will ever need….etc.

    So blame the media, blame the liberals, blame the Democrats, the gays and Obama and Joe BIden. Hell, you can even blame Oprah, But don’t you dare blame hockey mom Sarah Palin. She realizes all to well that she has an obligation to let the American people know where she stands on the crucial issues she must be able to face if she’s to be elected as Vice President and is doing everything in her power to do that, you dirty dirty nasty sexist elitist.

    Sarah Palin: Paragon of transparency, Goddess of Alaska. Savior of the new Republican party, which is in no way like the old Republican party and would never use the tactics of intimidating the media and questioning the patriotism of Democrats.

    The problem is you and the American voter, you’re not paying attention. If you want to know who Sarah Palin is Rush Limbaugh will be happy to tell you, Hannity will be happy to tell you, O’reilly, Fox News will tell you exactly who she is, the McCAin campaign is CONSTANTLY telling you who she is and what she’s about. You’re just not listening!!

    Yee HAAA!!!

    Drill baby drill, drill baby drill….drill baby etc….

    Peter (e70d1c)

  72. “Strength does not hide.” Hmmmm. So *that* explains why Obama, after promising debates, refused to meet McCain in a series of townhall debates (which would require, of course, being disconnected from his teleprompter).

    “Strength does not hide.” Evidently that also explains why Obama claims he “will not be bullied” and then sends out the Fighting 101st Women’s Brigade to the battlefront to confront Palin.

    Ya know, I think ila has revealed quite a lot.

    JorgXMcKie (c6778e)

  73. #70 daleyrocks:

    Maybe the Obama-Media ticket supporters are just looking out for our best interests.

    The scary part is, some few of them actually believe that!

    On the subject of fragility, I think Jabba the Tutt said it best up there at #55:

    Some how fragile and field dressing a moose don’t go hand in hand.

    EW1(SG) (84e813)

  74. Right how Sarah is a little busy.

    If you want to see how fragile she is, watch this interview from one day before her nomination: Bartiromo and Palin

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  75. – Fixed the Superbowel.

    God I hope so, that could lead to one hell of a mess.

    Taltos (4dc0e8)

  76. Where did the taunting troll go?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  77. @daleyrocks

    I saw your post, shrugged and moved on. 4/10

    Thanks for thinking of me, though.

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  78. @Jim Treacher

    Wrong again

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  79. #72 Jorg, Excellent.

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  80. Someone, I think it was Dana, wondered if ila was also jharp.
    I don’t think so.
    I think ila is our old friend Levi.

    Another Drew (775408)

  81. All right ila, explain this to us:

    “Strength does not hide.” Hmmmm. So *that* explains why Obama, after promising debates, refused to meet McCain in a series of townhall debates (which would require, of course, being disconnected from his teleprompter).

    C’mon, answer!

    Strength does not hide!

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  82. Peter, it is best to keep your fingers off the keyboard and let us think you are an idiot than to type and remove all doubt.

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  83. Peter lost three pounds writing that comment.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  84. AD,

    Levi is permanently banned, but i love america does post from the same IP address as a commenter named yawner. One of Patterico’s rules is that commenters maintain a consistent identity but I don’t know if ila and yawner are the same person.

    DRJ (7568a2)

  85. Peter lost three pounds writing that comment.

    Peter has advanced Palin Derangement Syndrome.

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  86. We’ve been getting a lot of nonsubstantive trolls lately who can’t defend their positions. ila is just another in a long line.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  87. I prefer Palin Madness Syndrome, just for the acronym.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  88. “Fragile” in the sense that she can only kill and dress one moose at a time.

    Perfect Sense (9d1b08)

  89. #27 – jharp

    So I guess if she decides November 1st is the time you’re OK with that.
    — I’m confident that she and the campaign will make a prudent decision.

    Coming from a right winger I am not the least bit surprised.
    — If your definition of right-winger is anyone to the right of center, then I resemble that remark.
    If you’re referring to the far right, that ain’t me, bub.

    She’s anti choice. Simple enough for the lesser brained among us.
    — You said it, not me. Anyway, you’re anti-hyphens, so there!

    Icy Truth (9cedd0)

  90. @paul

    The GOP VP candidate won’t speak to the media. How can you ask anyone else to speak to the media with a straight face?

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  91. Like when Obama flounced out of a pressser after eight questions.

    Obama just went on O’Reilly. You can’t tell me that the juice of Obama dodging the media on March 2 is the equivalent of the juice of Palin dodging the media RIGHT NOW.

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  92. @daley

    I’m tired. Do this and I’ll troll you more tomorrow, sweetie

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  93. i like america –

    Look, if the Big Bad Bullies come to your house and call you out, you go out and fight them if you are strong.
    — Or you can piss on them from the parapet.

    Really? Mommy jokes? You had to go to mommy jokes?
    — i like america’s mommy is called “i like the fleet”.

    Join in the fun. Maybe I’ll make you my next whipping boy
    — i.l.m. isn’t really jharp; he’s Sullivan, trolling here in-person!

    Icy Truth (9cedd0)

  94. ILM – Our Sarah could totally beat the shit out of the MSM’s Obama shills … she just doesn’t feel like it!

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  95. personally, I’m hoping Sarah holds out till at least one Associated Press reporter is ripped to peices by wolves while on location in Alaska.

    papertiger (0b0c9a)

  96. The plan is working. Our vice presidential candidate, as was just pointed out, can beat up their presidential candidate. Wimp that he is, having never been in an actual campaign except the one he lost to Bobby Rush, he cries foul, and his friends in the Obamedia dash to his rescue.

    Wah!!! She hit me!!!

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  97. The GOP VP candidate won’t speak to the media. How can you ask anyone else to speak to the media with a straight face?

    Simple. Like this:

    Why did Obama, the PRESIDENTIAL candidate, as in the one on the top of the ticket, wants to be the most powerful person in America, wants to be leader of the free world, a guy who wants to meet with the leaders of the biggest threats in the world with no preconditions, skip out of the debates with McCain when a teleprompter was not allowed? Especially since “strength does not hide?” Is he afraid of annihilating McCain with raw, unmitigated power?

    You opened the door to my question with your attack on Palin. Now cram it in your craw and chew on it.

    While you’re at it, you can explain why you criticize Palin while giving Obama a pass.

    Answer the question. Second time I’ve asked.

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  98. She’s anti choice. Simple enough for the lesser brained among us.

    But for those who can handle more than one thought, it is not the be all, end all of the election. There are many topics that are far more important to our country. Since Roe v. Wade is considered settled law and because Vice Presidents or even Presidents do not overrule the Supreme Court and can’t write and pass laws themselves, what her private views on abortion may be really has very little relevance to the job she is applying for.

    Jay Curtis (8f6541)

  99. @Paul

    No Paul, no. You lost the argument so what you should have said was … nothing.

    Instead you went for the rambling diatribe approach.

    How’d that work out for you?

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  100. No Paul, no. You lost the argument so what you should have said was … nothing.

    Ah yes, the old “I got my ass beat so I’ll declare victory and slink away” tactic.

    Instead you went for the rambling diatribe approach.

    Are you telling me you had no way to refute my point and so got your ass beat because you have lousy reading comprehension?

    “Strength does not hide.” You made that statement. Now own it.

    How’d that work out for you?

    Considering that you went for snark because you realized because you couldn’t answer my question and I beat your ass , it went very well.

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  101. @Paul

    Meh. Not very good. You clearly don’t beleive in your own victory like I do.

    I was looking for more anger. Your first post was all grrr, but this one was a let down.

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  102. Meh. Not very good. You clearly don’t beleive in your own victory like I do.

    Ah yes, more snark.

    So when are you going to tell us why Obama skipped out on the McCain townhall debates, since “strength does not hide?”

    Third time I’ve asked.

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  103. I was looking for more anger. Your first post was all grrr, but this one was a let down.

    Aw, I let poor baby down.

    All together now: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  104. @Paul

    That’s just what I needed you to do.

    I wanted to go out tonight with this pic right here but I needed some idiot to shout in all-caps first

    WHARRGARBL

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  105. I wanted to go out tonight with this pic right here but I needed some idiot to shout in all-caps first

    Write it yourself since you obviously fit the description of idiot.

    So when are you going to tell us why Obama skipped out on the McCain townhall debates, since “strength does not hide?”

    Fourth time I asked. You ever gonna answer?

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  106. “RAWMUSGLUTES” is going worldwide now — HotAir has linked this post on its front page. LMFAO.

    WLS (969303)

  107. Hit him in the mangina Paul.

    He ain’t got no game, just like his candidate.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  108. Sullivan is talking out his ass again. EEEEwwwww!!!![hold nose]

    torabora (eecf79)

  109. I think Peter passed out after that rant.

    JD (5f0e11)

  110. Wimp that he is, having never been in an actual campaign except the one he lost to Bobby Rush …

    Yeah, beating Hillary was a cakewalk. Handling the accomplished debater Alan Keyes in debates was an anomaly.

    Please continue to underestimate Obama. Go on lowering the bar on what he needs to accomplish over the next two months and in the debates, while raising expectations for Sarah Palin.

    That’s a winning strategy for you. No, really.

    D. Aristophanes (18e167)

  111. Yeah, beating Hillary was a cakewalk. Handling the accomplished debater Alan Keyes in debates was an anomaly.

    Well then, he should have no problem facing McCain in a townhall-style debate, right?

    So what’s his excuse for failing to do so?

    Paul (ac3cf3)

  112. Dstophines – Hillary is the only real electoral challenge Baracky had ever faced. To suggest otherwise is either disengenous, or aggressively ignorant.

    JD (5f0e11)

  113. D. Aristophanes – Thanks for you vote of confidence. It means a lot. No. Seriously.

    As you correctly poinr out, Obama did win the democratic primaries under their convoluted rules, limping and whining to the finish. Hillary won the popular vote, which always seems so important to democrats and would have won under more traditional primary rules with or without Michigan or Florida.

    Obama did not win on issues since there was not much difference between Hillary and Obama on issues. Now he is forced to defend himself on issues, his flip flops on those issues, and his glaring lack of experience. His whining doesn’t play well to a broader national audience.

    Keep up the faith dude.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  114. Our Sarah could totally beat the shit out of the MSM’s Obama shills …

    She doesn’t have to; they’re doing fine on their own.

    Please continue to underestimate Obama. Go on lowering the bar on what he needs to accomplish over the next two months and in the debates, while raising expectations for Sarah Palin.

    That’s a winning strategy for you. No, really.

    Your confidence shines through, Mr. Thurm.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  115. If you want to see how fragile she is, watch this interview from one day before her nomination: Bartiromo and Palin

    Comment by Patricia — 9/6/2008 @ 9:46 pm

    All she talks about is drilling in ANWR and how environmentally safe it is. And finishes off with how proud she is of her son soon going off to Iraq (interesting how she’s ready to trot out the family when it politically expedient, yet…the media is so “liberal, sexist and mean” when she doesn’t want it focus on other areas, like her schizoid dysfunctional family life and values, her competency, experience, political record etc….)

    There’s zilch nothing about the economy (other than the price of gas), including the sub-prime situation, catastrophic deregulation, lowering taxes or any number of very delicate geopolitical crises facing the nation at this time.

    Link to transcript/interview:

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/26462569?__source=RSS*blog*&par=RSS

    Peter (e70d1c)

  116. Peter – You are a moron. The interview was prior to her selection by McCain. Why would she be addressing the other topics you whine about at that point when Maria’s major interest is her energy expertise.

    How come Obama keeps avoiding the subjects I want to hear about Peter? Can you do something about that for me? I want to hear more about his connections to the corrupt Daley machine. I want to hear about Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge. I want to know if an indictment is coming down the pike for Axelrod.

    Why doesn’t Obama address the questions people want to know about?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  117. Hey Peter, yeah, she had an energy policy and experience implementing it before she ran for VP! Imagine that! You might say that she has great experience for being the standby Chief Executive!

    And before all the chickenhawk taunts start, both she and McCain will have children in Iraq during the campaign. They are probably both proud and worried about those kids. What’s the taunt now, that they’re really not in the service, it’s all a big faked video?

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  118. Daleycrocks:

    The interview was prior to her selection by McCain. Why would she be addressing the other topics you whine about at that point when Maria’s major interest is her energy expertise.

    I was not the one to link to it as an example of her ability to take questions from the press, and speak knowledgeably. So, your barking up the wrong tree there brudda.

    yeah, she had an energy policy and experience implementing it before she ran for VP! Imagine that!

    Sounds to me from that interview that all she has experience about is that ANWR has no mountains and is a good place to drill for oil and that the environmental impact would be negligible in her not so humble opinion.

    If you want to get into the experience debate fine with me.

    Sarah Palin –
    – Finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant.
    – Has a degree from from the University of Idaho in communications
    – Had a 20% ownership in an Anchorage car wash business
    – Two terms as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
    – One year as chairman of an oil commission.
    – A year an a half as Governor of Alaska

    Barack Obama –
    – A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School
    – Served as president of the Harvard Law Review
    – Three years as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP)
    – A consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation
    – Taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    – Served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge
    – 8 years in the Illinois Senate
    – 4 years in the U.S. Senate
    – Sponsored 131 bills in the U.S. Senate
    – Held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works, Veterans’ Affairs, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and European Affairs.
    – Has made official government trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa.
    – Authored two best selling books.

    Here’s some other things. He was right about Iraq, right about the timetable, which Al Maliki supports as being in keeping with their wishes for when the American troops should leave, right about talking to Iran, right about going after AQ in Pakistan. All elements that the Bush administration has had to, with great chagrin, agree too as effective approaches towards those particular areas.

    And one of my favorite…beat the most powerful democratic front-runner for President in a generation by running a measured, brilliant, effective campaign.

    Over and out,

    (For today anyway…)

    Peter (e70d1c)

  119. And before all the chickenhawk taunts start,

    No taunts here. Honest. I’m not sure what you mean.

    The chickenhawk label only applies to Bush/Cheney and the neocon gang that shaped the disaster in Iraq and whose incompetent “ideas” are still the heart of the brain trust at GOP HQ no matter the dementia/schizophrenia/break with reality that McPalin claim.

    (And don’t forget Biden’s son too btw)

    Okay now I’m really outta here.

    Peter (e70d1c)

  120. The conservatives in this thread got rolled.

    You’re a bunch of softies, really

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  121. European Affairs

    I hasten to point out that this commitee hasn’t even gotten together since Obama got appointed to run it…

    (And don’t forget Biden’s son too btw)

    Which one, the Captain in the NG, or the one indicted for fraud?

    I assume you forget about Sen McCain’s kid and Gov Palin’s son being in the military…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  122. yes Palin is a slut has no talent to speak of. She has a slut daughter too and she think the earth is 6000 years old. If America wants leaders that can stand up straight among the leaders in the world, a slut full of air in her head will not do.

    thinker (5d5f3d)

  123. Ah, such class from the left…

    Truly sir (or madam), your wit and logic has undone us all!

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  124. We bow before such intellectual greatness.

    Another Drew (e0c2ef)

  125. “Softies”, hahahahha

    Nice

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  126. And true, I might add

    i like america (f4c1e0)


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