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5/1/2023

Rick Ellensburg: The Biggest Victims of the Ukraine War Were Victimized by . . . Zelensky

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:23 pm



Who would have thought that Thomas Ellers would find Zelensky more at fault than Vladimir Putin?

Oh, right: anybody who has followed this cretin’s career with even passing interest.

People like our friend Ellison love to say that sure, they have criticized Putin’s actions. But I wager you won’t be able to find a single passionate statement from Greenwald/Ellers/Ellison/Ellensburg that criticizes Putin without averring that some other nefarious actor like Biden or Zelensky is worse. He is from the Roger Waters school of political analysis: shrug at the real evil and give lip service to its being bad, while saving your real vitriol for the actual good guys fighting the monsters.

Today the mask slipped, just a bit, as we see Greenwald telling us who has been most victimized by the war. It’s so very shocking to learn that the real victims were not victimized by Putin.

Greenwald is a punk. The fascination of the New Right with this guy is telling.

18 Responses to “Rick Ellensburg: The Biggest Victims of the Ukraine War Were Victimized by . . . Zelensky”

  1. Just think of the millions of American men conscripted into the armed forces just so that FDR could look strong after Pearl Harbor! Sure, Hitler and Tojo had their faults but we could have negotiated with them instead of sending all those boys to their deaths!

    /sarc

    Kevin M (f94f4f) — 5/1/2023 @ 1:08 pm

  2. Speaker McCarthy Takes a Position on Ukraine:

    ………
    During a press conference following a speech he delivered to Israel’s Knesset, a staff member of Russia’s RIA Novosti propaganda outlet asked about his stance on Ukraine aid, while noting that “you don’t support the current unlimited and uncontrolled supplies of weaponry and aid to Ukraine.”

    McCarthy started his answer by saying that the sound in the room was unclear and asking if the Russian reporter had said he doesn’t support aid to Ukraine.

    “No, I voted for aid to Ukraine,” he then said. “I support aid for Ukraine.”

    McCarthy addressed the Russian reporter directly: “I do not support what your country has done to Ukraine. I do not support your killing of the children either. And I think from one standpoint you should pull out, and I don’t think it’s right.”

    “And we will continue to support because the rest of the world sees it just as it is,” McCarthy concluded.
    ………
    Last fall, McCarthy sparked speculation over his stance on Ukraine aid when he said multiple times that a GOP House majority would not write a “blank check,” citing the fact that the American national debt is $30 trillion. Then, in March, he publicly turned down an invitation from President Volodymyr Zelensky to visit the country. During the CNN interview where he rejected Zelensky’s invite, he reiterated his “no blank check” stance.
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    McCarthy’s comment today can also potentially be viewed as the latest in a string of setbacks for the congressional GOP’s foreign-policy “restraint” wing.

    Recently, a letter by congressional Ukraine-aid skeptics received signatures from only three senators and 16 House members, with some prominent figures, such as Senator Josh Hawley, apparently not signing on. And the recent departure of Tucker Carlson from his perch at Fox News has left that faction without a key outside advocate for noninterventionism.
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    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 5/1/2023 @ 2:19 pm

  3. People blamed Winston Churchill for Gallipoli (his mistake was in not realizing that other people were not as good as he was) but not for the World War I.

    Maybe the battle over Bakhmut is a mistake.

    About the Russian draft

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/world/europe/russia-military-draft-ukraine.html

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 5/1/2023 @ 2:36 pm

  4. Ain’t That A Shame:

    At least 100,000 Russian fighters have been killed or wounded in Ukraine in the past five months, the White House said on Monday, the latest measure of the vast human toll of President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion.

    John Kirby, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said the figure included 20,000 Russian fighters who had been killed in action. About half of those were mercenaries for the Wagner group, the paramilitary force founded by Yevgeny V. Prigozhin that recruited heavily from Russian prisons to bolster its ranks and carry out a brutal campaign around the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.

    In November, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reported that 100,000 fighters on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began in February 2022. But American officials believe the losses have grown for Russia as it has sent waves of poorly trained recruits and convicts to the front lines.
    ……….
    A trove of leaked Pentagon documents disclosed in April included an American estimate that as of February Russia had sustained between 189,500 and 223,000 casualties, including up to 43,000 killed in action. …….
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 5/1/2023 @ 3:06 pm

  5. Wow. That is quite a take from gg
    The Ukrainians seem to have higher morale and willingness to fight than most conscripted victims. I could almost feel sorry for the Russian mobiks dying in the mud because Putin is a lunatic, but the Ukrainian “conscripts” seem fairly upbeat about making the poor bastards die for Mother Russia on Ukrainian soil.

    steveg (052920) — 5/1/2023 @ 5:27 pm

  6. He is from the Roger Waters school of political analysis: shrug at the real evil and give lip service to its being bad, while saving your real vitriol for the actual good guys fighting the monsters.

    @DougJBalloon (New York Times Pitchbot) does hilarious Twitter parodies of Greenwald being this way. Example.

    lurker (cd7cd4) — 5/1/2023 @ 7:45 pm

  7. Another.

    lurker (cd7cd4) — 5/1/2023 @ 7:50 pm

  8. GG is and always has been a sanctimonious self-aggrandizing POS. It used to be the BlameAmericaFirst Left defending him. Now it’s the BlameAmericaFirst Left and the BlameAmericaFirst Right. Let’s all celebrate America-hating Americans bridging the vanishingly narrow divide between tips of the horseshoe.

    lurker (cd7cd4) — 5/1/2023 @ 8:09 pm

  9. Happy may day everyone! Only 3 more days till kent state day.

    asset (84038c) — 5/1/2023 @ 10:10 pm

  10. Greenwald has always been pro-Putin, by his general silence about Putin’s acts and by his blaming the victim and America. It’s bizarre.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7) — 5/2/2023 @ 4:25 am

  11. Today the mask slipped, just a bit, as we see Greenwald telling us who has been most victimized by the war.

    At least Greenwald correctly identified Ukrainians as being the most victimized, in contrast to the moronic tweet he was responding to.

    JF (438d9d) — 5/2/2023 @ 6:20 am

  12. JF, the tweet he responded to was mocking the ppl who have been complaining about the criticism they’ve been getting for being Russian / Putin apologists.

    Time123 (96c904) — 5/2/2023 @ 7:16 am

  13. Glenn Greenwald was also on Putin’s side, against America, in the Wikileaks and Snowden cases and, generally, for the rest of the time what the President of the LA City Council said.

    nk (83bdb0) — 5/2/2023 @ 7:29 am

  14. Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 5/1/2023 @ 2:19 pm

    TrumpWorld responds:

    ……..McCarthy sounds infantile. He doesn’t give a damn about America. ……Any american politician complaining about a country starting a war would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic. …….. He is a liar. He said no more money to Ukraine. GOP needs to vote him out now ……He supported the violent overthrow of the Ukrainian govt & putting Ukraine in NATO. …….McCarthy once again reminds everyone that he’ll toe the establishment’s line on foreign policy and why he can never be trusted. …….Russia didn’t start this war – they’re just finishing it. …….Kevin McCarthy: Klaus Schwab underling and trainee……… Another warmonger posing as a republican. …….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 5/2/2023 @ 11:44 am

  15. When America defaults Biden should declare martial law and arrest mccarthy and the other republican saboteurs. Lincoln did it with the copperheads. Put mccarthy in a cell with abdullah and bubba.

    asset (ac6b63) — 5/2/2023 @ 2:24 pm

  16. It is interesting that Ukraine is having to conscript its citizens. Not sure what that means.

    Joe (c6caf6) — 5/3/2023 @ 7:35 am

  17. @16

    It is interesting that Ukraine is having to conscript its citizens. Not sure what that means.

    Joe (c6caf6) — 5/3/2023 @ 7:35 am

    Not really unusual, especially since its a war to stave off invasion.

    Most nations don’t have a standing army designed for that.

    whembly (d116f3) — 5/3/2023 @ 7:43 am

  18. When America defaults Biden should declare martial law and arrest mccarthy and the other republican saboteurs. Lincoln did it with the copperheads. Put mccarthy in a cell with abdullah and bubba.

    Yes. I think this would be a good idea. I can think of no better way to get Emperor Donald, first of his name.

    Kevin M (f94f4f) — 5/3/2023 @ 8:34 am


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