Weekend Open Thread
[guest post by Dana]
I realize that there was big news regarding the Supreme Court abortion decision today, but because JVW covered it this morning, I’m not including it in today’s news items (but obviously you can comment on it at this post, if you want).
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So with that out of the way, let’s go!
First news item
Ah:
Jan. 6 committee plays testimony revealing that Reps. Brooks (AL), Biggs (AZ), Gaetz (FL), Gohmert (TX), Greene (GA) and Perry (PA) sought pardons.@RepKinzinger (R-IL): "The only reason I know to ask for a pardon is because you think you've committed a crime." pic.twitter.com/yrArap5rTd
— CSPAN (@cspan) June 23, 2022
This:
"We're heroes trying to save democracy from a massive crime but we'd like a pardon in advance just in case we're caught 'saving democracy'" is a helluva position for sitting congressmen to take.
— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahDispatch) June 23, 2022
Second news item
About bodily autonomy and abortion:
This basic bodily autonomy argument for abortion was first fully articulated in 1971 by moral philosopher Judith Jarvis Thomson. Thomson stipulated for the sake of argument that the unborn child is a human being—and even that it is a human person. But she nonetheless justified abortion as non-intentional killing. Her famous analogy compared a pregnant woman to a hypothetical individual who, without his consent, has been hooked up to a famous violinist who is sick and requires this connection to remain alive. Imagine someone with kidney or liver failure who needs to be plugged into your body so he can rely on your kidney or your liver for, say, nine months, until a transplant could be found.
In Thomson’s analogy, just as it would be morally acceptable for you to choose to detach from the violinist, even if you know he will die as a result, so too would it be acceptable for a pregnant woman to have the unborn child detached. In neither case did you consent to having the violinist plugged in or the child exist in the womb. And in neither case are you seeking the person’s death. You don’t want it for its own sake, nor do you want it for the sake of something else it will bring. Death is neither your means nor your end, in the jargon of philosophers. It isn’t intended, only foreseen. You cut someone off from invasive access to your body, while knowing this will result in death. With this argument, Thomson portrayed pregnancy as an act of violence against women. Just as the violinist was secretly hooked up without your knowledge or consent, violating your bodily integrity, so too the child conceived and growing in the womb does so without permission.
Thomson’s argument fails spectacularly…First, the bodily autonomy argument for abortion could only get off the ground if abortion entailed unintentional killing. But unlike the case of the violinist, where the intention truly is just to detach—with his death a foreseen but unintended side effect—in the case of abortion, the intended outcome is a dead child. Thomson’s hypothetical is wrong about what people want when they seek abortion. An abortion where the child survives is a failed abortion. By contrast, a detachment from the violinist where the violinist survives would be considered a success. In performing an abortion, the abortionist doesn’t seek only to remove an “invading” child from a womb but also to ensure that the child no longer exists. (This is why the pro-abortion movement opposes even the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would legally protect newborns who survive an attempted abortion.)
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Second, the analogy between abortion and the violinist is a non-starter in any case other than when the pregnancy itself was the result of a violation of bodily integrity—as it would be if the violinist were hooked up to you. The analogy doesn’t apply to nearly all pregnancies, the vast majority of which result from consensual sex. In fact, the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute’s research has shown that only 1 percent of abortions are obtained in cases of rape—a percentage that holds steady across decades of data.
Third news item
The House sends President Biden gun violence bill:
The House sent President Joe Biden the most wide-ranging gun violence bill Congress has passed in decades on Friday, a measured compromise that at once illustrates progress on the long-intractable issue and the deep-seated partisan divide that persists.
The Democratic-led chamber approved the election-year legislation on a mostly party-line 234-193 vote, capping a spurt of action prompted by voters’ revulsion over last month’s mass shootings in New York and Texas. The night before, the Senate approved it by a bipartisan 65-33 margin, with 15 Republicans joining all Democrats in supporting a package that senators from both parties had crafted.
The bill would incrementally toughen requirements for young people to buy guns, deny firearms from more domestic abusers and help local authorities temporarily take weapons from people judged to be dangerous. Most of its $13 billion cost would go to bolster mental health programs and for schools, which have been targeted in Newtown, Connecticut, Parkland, Florida and many other infamous massacres.
Liz Cheney
Adam Kinzinger
Tom Rice
John Katko
Maria Salazar
Chris Jacobs
Brian Fitzpatrick
Peter Meijer
Fred Upton
Steve Chabot
Mike Turner
David Joyce
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Tony Gonzalez of Texas
What I remember about guns is that I remember almost nothing about guns. People owned them; they didn’t talk about them. They didn’t cover their cars in bumper stickers about them, they didn’t fly flags about them, they didn’t pose for dumb pictures with them. (I’ll plead one personal exemption: When I was a little boy, relatives in Greece once posed me in a Greek Evzone-soldier costume with my uncle’s hunting shotgun. I could barely lift it.)
Today, there is a neediness in the gun culture that speaks to deep insecurities among a certain kind of American citizen. The gun owners I knew—cops, veterans, hunters, sportsmen—owned guns as part of their life, sometimes as tools, sometimes for recreation. Gun ownership was not the central and defining feature of their life…
I have always trusted my fellow citizens with weapons. Now the most vocal advocates for unfettered gun ownership are men sitting in their cars in sunglasses and baseball caps, recording themselves as they dump unhinged rants into their phones about their rights and conspiracies and socialism.
Fourth news item
The Supreme Court ruled today, 6–3, that if a police officer fails to inform you of your right to remain silent and avoid self-incrimination when you’re suspected of a crime, you can’t sue under federal law as a violation of your civil rights.
To be clear, the Court isn’t overturning Miranda v. Arizona, the 1966 Supreme Court ruling that determined that it’s a violation of a suspect’s Fifth Amendment rights for police to interrogate him or her about a crime without informing them they have the right to remain silent and the right to request an attorney. But what the Court ruled today is that if and when this right is violated, people can’t turn to Section 1983 of the U.S. code and file a civil action lawsuit against the police officer or law enforcement agency and seek redress or damages.
Fifth news item
…Russian Ambassador ANATOLY ANTONOV had a big-name dining companion for lunch Thursday at Café Milano in Georgetown: former U.S. envoy for Afghanistan ZALMAY KHALILZAD. The two were hosted by DIMITRI SIMES, president and CEO of the Center for the National Interest. Our colleague Daniel Lippman was at a neighboring table, overheard the conversation, and took notes on what was said.
On the war in Ukraine: The Russian ambassador agreed when Khalilzad said “we need an agreement” to end the war between Ukraine and Russia. On the prospect of a peace deal, Antonov asked Khalilzad, “What would [the U.S.] like us to give up?” Khalilzad suggested that Antonov have dinner with the Ukrainian ambassador. In an apparent reference to Russia’s false claims that neo-Nazis are running Ukraine, Antonov asked Khalilzad: “You have a lot of Jewish guys in the United States. Why are they so tolerant of what’s happening in Kyiv?”
— On Zelenskyy: Antonov expressed befuddlement over Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, and said he doesn’t “understand [Zelenskyy’s] vision for the future of Ukraine.”
— On U.S.-Russia relations: “We don’t get any respect” from Washington, Antonov complained, adding that Russia “need[s] respect” and “would like [the U.S.] to respect” it. Asked what might lead to the normalization of relations with the U.S., Antonov told Khalilzad, “I cannot answer your question,” but later said that Russia needed “security guarantees.”
— On diplomacy: Antonov bemoaned the lack of dialogue and communication between the U.S. and Russia, comparing it unfavorably to the Cuban missile crisis, during which the U.S. and Soviet Union continued to talk. Near the end of the lunch, Antonov said: “Zal, I would like to use your contacts and your contacts in this administration,” and Khalilzad discussed the need for a “track two” in communications between the U.S and Russia.
— On a new media outlet: Simes discussed a business idea of his: starting a new TV channel in Moscow, which Khalilzad said could be “very lucrative.” “Don’t forget my request to be junior partner,” Antonov joked. (It is not clear how serious Simes is about his idea.)
Sixth news item
Finding signs to worry about the future of American democracy is not hard, but few are quite so painful and acute as the cognitive dissonance displayed by Rusty Bowers this week.
Bowers, the Republican speaker of the Arizona State House, was the star witness during yesterday’s hearing of the U.S. House’s January 6 committee. Bowers calls himself a conservative Republican, and he has the record to back that claim up. Like most Republicans, he supported Donald Trump in the 2020 election, but when Trump and Rudy Giuliani tried to pressure him to assist in their scheme to overturn the results of the election in Arizona, where Joe Biden narrowly won, Bowers refused.
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Bowers’s testimony was powerful because it was somber, serious, and clearly heartfelt. This is also why it was threatening to Trump, who issued a statement before the hearing even began, attacking Bowers and claiming he’d agreed with Trump that the election was rigged. Under oath, Bowers said flatly that Trump’s account was false.
And yet in an interview with the Associated Press published yesterday, Bowers also said he would back Trump if he runs for president in 2024. “If he is the nominee, if he was up against Biden, I’d vote for him again,” Bowers said. “Simply because what he did the first time, before COVID, was so good for the country. In my view it was great.”
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Once you’ve decided that your specific policy planks are more important than ensuring that the fundamental system survives, however, the result sooner or later is a government that has no interest in the will of the people. Imagining this doesn’t take much creativity: After the 2020 election, Trump tried to ignore the will of the people and remain in power. He was stopped only by the courage of people such as Rusty Bowers. If even Bowers is willing to back Trump again, despite his eloquent condemnations, the outlook for popular democracy is very bleak.
Seventh news item
Ukrainian troops will have to withdraw from the besieged eastern city of Severodonetsk, the regional governor said Friday…The last remaining major city in the Luhansk region of the Donbas still under Ukrainian control has endured weeks of bombardment by Russia’s invading forces…Lysychansk, Severodonetsk’s twin city in the Luhansk region, has also endured days of heavy shelling, prompting a Ukrainian official to warn the battle for the Donbas is “entering a sort of fearsome climax” this week…”Unfortunately, we will have to remove our military from Severodonetsk, because staying in broken positions makes no sense — the number of dead is growing,” Luhansk region Gov. Serhiy Haidai said in a Telegram post…”Defenders of Severodonetsk will leave the city for new, more fortified positions,” Haidai said in a later post.
Ammunition shortages plague Ukraine’s troops:
Ukraine is running out of shells for the majority of its artillery in part because of a clandestine Russian campaign of bullying and sabotage over the past eight years, including bombings of key munitions depots across Eastern Europe that officials have linked to Moscow, according to Ukrainian government officials and military analysts.
Fighting in eastern and southern Ukraine is now almost exclusively a near-constant exchange of artillery, and Ukraine’s shortage of shells has exacerbated what was already a mismatch on the battlefield against a Russian military with more weapons. Russia is firing more than 60,000 shells per day — 10 times more than the Ukrainians, Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar told The Washington Post.
Most of Ukraine’s artillery pieces date back to the Soviet Union, meaning they rely on the same 122mm- and 152mm-caliber rounds that Russia uses. But outside of Russia, very little supply exists — in large part because Russia spent years targeting Ukrainian and other Eastern European ammunition storage facilities and suppliers before launching its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in late February. Russia has also taken other steps to acquire the ammunition or otherwise prevent its sale to Ukraine.
“Even if everyone gives us this ammunition, it will still not be enough,” Malyar said, adding that Ukraine uses more of the 152mm shells than are produced globally in one day.
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Howitzers used by NATO and the United States fire 105mm and 155mm shells. Western countries supplied Ukraine with plenty of those shells but only a limited number of systems to fire them. Despite U.S. and European pledges to send more artillery, Ukraine still does not have enough to replace its old Soviet-era equipment entirely with NATO-standard weaponry.
A U.S. citizen helping to broker weapons transfers to Ukraine said he recently approached an Eastern European country to negotiate a purchase of artillery rounds. Officials in that country said they couldn’t make a deal, the man said, because the Russians had already warned that they would “kill them if they sold anything to the Ukrainians.”
Eighth news item
Opinion writer expresses wrong opinion, gets demoted:
Gannett, the nation’s largest newspaper chain, with more than 200 daily newspapers, announced this month that it’s walking away from opinion sections like the one you’re reading. USA Today’s liberal editorial page editor said they failed to “evolve.”
I know something about Gannett’s evolution since I was USA Today’s deputy editorial page editor until August, when I was demoted after I tweeted, “People who are pregnant are also women.”
That idea was forbidden because a “news reporter” covering diversity, equity and inclusion wrote a story detailing how transgender men can get pregnant. I compounded my sin against this new orthodoxy by calling the idea that men can get pregnant an “opinion.”
If I wanted to keep any job at USA Today, my bosses informed me, I needed to delete these offensive tweets because they were causing pain to the LGBTQ activists and journalists on our staff.
Now, I have been an opinion journalist for 30 years — I thought I was authorized to have opinions. The idea that women are the ones who get pregnant has gone from scientific fact to opinion to outright falsehood in the blink of an eye. Nevertheless, it remains my opinion that women get pregnant…
Ninth news item
Developments in Uvalde investigation bring no comfort to parents or the community:
No security footage from inside the school showed police officers attempting to open the doors to classrooms 111 and 112, which were connected by an adjoining door. Arredondo told the Tribune that he tried to open one door and another group of officers tried to open another, but that the door was reinforced and impenetrable. Those attempts were not caught in the footage reviewed by the Tribune. Some law enforcement officials are skeptical that the doors were ever locked.
Within the first minutes of the law enforcement response, an officer said the Halligan (a firefighting tool that is also sometimes spelled hooligan) was on site. It wasn’t brought into the school until an hour after the first officers entered the building. Authorities didn’t use it and instead waited for keys.
Officers had access to four ballistic shields inside the school during the standoff with the gunman, according to a law enforcement transcript. The first arrived 58 minutes before officers stormed the classrooms. The last arrived 30 minutes before.
Multiple Department of Public Safety officers — up to eight, at one point — entered the building at various times while the shooter was holed up. Many quickly left to pursue other duties, including evacuating children, after seeing the number of officers already there. At least one of the officers expressed confusion and frustration about why the officers weren’t breaching the classroom, but was told that no order to do so had been given.
At least some officers on the scene seemed to believe that Arredondo was in charge inside the school, and at times Arredondo seemed to be issuing orders such as directing officers to evacuate students from other classrooms. That contradicts Arredondo’s assertion that he did not believe he was running the law enforcement response. Arredondo’s lawyer, George E. Hyde, said the chief will not elaborate on his interview with the Tribune, given the ongoing investigation.
It’s been a long week. I hope everyone has a restful weekend.
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (1225fc) — 6/24/2022 @ 1:34 pmDana– FWIW, I think you do a helluva fine job listing a variety of topic for a weekend thread– it’s time consuming and thoughtful on top of your real world responsibilities—-and please, more pictures, preferably your b/w imagery.
There’s so many events going on and you season theses threads with a tasty variety of topics to chew over. And the rest of us can add our own interests freely.
DCSCA (6fbae1) — 6/24/2022 @ 1:51 pmThe USA Today thing is instructive about how public opinion is formed. These highly-concentrated news agencies intend to use their platforms to gaslight the public. Day in and day out repetition of things like “some men can get pregnant” — or other untrue assertions that they wish to pound home — will eventually lead to a substantial number of people thinking it must be true. Not a Big Lie but a raft of Little Lies that eventually add up.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 1:52 pmThe Uvalde thing was supposed to reinforce the need for gun control but the utter incompetence of the local police actually argues the opposite. “When it’s a matter of seconds, the police are outside debating whether the door is locked.”
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 1:55 pmMy VR friend is in Uvalde now. The world is moving on but the wreckage remains there, raw and festering. The first hand info shared is heart-wretching. The survivors will never heal.
DCSCA (6fbae1) — 6/24/2022 @ 1:59 pmUkrainian troops will have to withdraw from the besieged eastern city of Severodonetsk
For $53 billion they could have bought the place back from the Russians.
DCSCA (6fbae1) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:01 pmLeftist terrorist group Jane’s Revenge calls upon people to commit terrorism in a night of rage over constitutional Supreme Court decision. Leftist politicians call court ruling unjust and demand retribution.
That includes Pelosi, Schumer and Occasional Cortex.
NJRob (b5c605) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:06 pmhttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/24/night-rage-looms-after-scotus-decision-mccarthy-biden-prevent-violence-before-too-late/
That’s not really ajustified conclusion — so is saying that taking the 5th amendment means you’re guilty — especially of anything you could be accused of.
In the 1920s a general right to take the 5th amendment was established by lawyers for criminal groups, but once someone answers any question they could be deemed to have waived this general fear of being a target,
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:39 pmAnd Ruth didn’t send them. What a lie!
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:40 pm@7 GOOD! The counter-offensive should begin as soon as possible. Make it impossible for rethugliKKKans to campaign along with their campaign signs.
asset (883c2e) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:52 pmNice to know that asset has abandoned democracy for the rule of the mob. Ask Robespierre how that worked out when you see him.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 2:59 pm@11 If ameriKKKa was a democratic republic I would have know problem. 18% of the population control 52 senate seats. Trump got almost 3 million less votes then clinton but was installed as president. Biden got 9 million more votes then trump but only won by 44,000 votes az.10,000 ga. 13,000 wi. 20,000 or we would be in civil war now. Their is no democracy to abandon. My hero is John Brown not Robespierre ;but I like him and maybe AOC will emulate him.
asset (883c2e) — 6/24/2022 @ 3:10 pm@11. Pfft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsoqRvYqWDg
‘Look what’s happin’out in the streets;
Got to revolution; got to revolution…’
It’s coming. Populism is on the boil– and bureaucrats just turned up the flame under half the population who got screwed.
‘Hell hath no fury…’
DCSCA (6fbae1) — 6/24/2022 @ 3:10 pmThird News Item:
None of the provisions would have stopped the Buffalo, Uvalde, or El Paso mass shootings. Some of the provisions (like the juvenile record check only for adults aged 18-20) are probably unconstitutional. Let’s check back in 5 years to see if there is a statistically significant change in the number mass shootings or even plain old murder. I doubt it.
Meh.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/24/2022 @ 3:24 pmThe wheels of justice…..
Keep on turning ……
And turning ……
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/24/2022 @ 3:52 pmAnd turning …….
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/24/2022 @ 3:56 pm> About bodily autonomy and abortion
Time for Jews to leave the US, I guess. We’re always second class citizens, or props, to Christians.
john (cd2753) — 6/24/2022 @ 4:09 pm@15/16/17. ‘Pass the Grey Poupon’ said the Royalists. Now that C&C is in vogue and these populists have a record, next time they storm the castle against the bureaucrats- and it will happen again with populism at the boil, next time one of these Ashli Babbitt types may just shoot back. A civil war/revolution is coming, probably after I’m dead- but you can see it coming to a boil as a country in decline circles the drain.
DCSCA (461523) — 6/24/2022 @ 4:14 pmThird news item
The House sends President Biden gun violence bill:
That’s not a gun violence bill. It’s a $12 billion subsidy to the psychiatric racket. It does nothing to prevent gun crimes. Nothing.
nk (25a24e) — 6/24/2022 @ 4:50 pmBased on yesterday’s ruling and the codification of the right to bear arms, the “red flag” laws are likely unconstitutional and definitely a breach upon an individual’s right to protect himself.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:12 pm2/3rds of those polled by Gallup oppose abortion after 13 weeks.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx (scroll down)
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:19 pmThe CA “gun roster”, which has not added a new gun in a decade and will age all guns off the list in January, is certain to fall. It basically makes all handguns illegal to purchase. They don’t have the (impossible) microstamping feature. And if someone managed to invent one that worked, they’d just add some other impossible requirement (e.g. turns lead into gold).
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:22 pmIf the crowd today breached the SC building and started torching offices, I’m sure that Biden’s DoJ would leave no stone unturned trying to find a reason not to charge them.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:24 pmFactbox-Broad U.S. support for abortion rights at odds with Supreme Court’s restrictions
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. Supreme Court decision upending nearly a half century of legal protection for abortion rights is sharply at odds with public opinion in a country where a sizable majority of people support abortion rights.
Here are some key takeaways on Americans’ views on abortion rights from a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted before the Supreme Court released its decision:
SUPPORT FOR ABORTION RIGHTS
About 71% of Americans – including majorities of Democrats and Republicans – say decisions about terminating a pregnancy should be left to a woman and her doctor, rather than regulated by the government. But that support is not absolute: 26% of respondents polled said abortion should be legal in all cases while 10% said it should be illegal in all cases. More than half of the 4,409 respondents to the Reuters/Ipsos poll said that abortion should be legal in some cases but illegal in others.
PARTISAN DISUNITY
Republicans are much likelier than Democrats to support restrictions on abortion. But while Republicans in Congress overwhelmingly support crackdowns on abortion, 36% of Republican respondents to the survey said abortion should be legal in most or all cases. Similarly, 34% of Democrats think abortion should be illegal in most or all cases. A fifth of Democrats said it was too easy for women to get an abortion.
Fri, June 24, 2022 at 7:43 AM·2 min read
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. Supreme Court decision upending nearly a half century of legal protection for abortion rights is sharply at odds with public opinion in a country where a sizable majority of people support abortion rights.
Here are some key takeaways on Americans’ views on abortion rights from a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted before the Supreme Court released its decision:
SUPPORT FOR ABORTION RIGHTS
About 71% of Americans – including majorities of Democrats and Republicans – say decisions about terminating a pregnancy should be left to a woman and her doctor, rather than regulated by the government. But that support is not absolute: 26% of respondents polled said abortion should be legal in all cases while 10% said it should be illegal in all cases. More than half of the 4,409 respondents to the Reuters/Ipsos poll said that abortion should be legal in some cases but illegal in others.
PARTISAN DISUNITY
Republicans are much likelier than Democrats to support restrictions on abortion. But while Republicans in Congress overwhelmingly support crackdowns on abortion, 36% of Republican respondents to the survey said abortion should be legal in most or all cases. Similarly, 34% of Democrats think abortion should be illegal in most or all cases. A fifth of Democrats said it was too easy for women to get an abortion.
Related video: Elizabeth Warren says SCOTUS ‘extremists do not get the last word’
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GENDER GAP
About three-quarters of women agreed with the statement that decisions about abortion should be left to a woman and her doctor, compared with about two-thirds of men. Some 63% of Republican women supported this statement.
ELECTION IMPACT?
Abortion rights will help shape the November midterm elections, which will determine control of the U.S. Congress and 36 governors’ seats. State legislatures are also in play, and the elections could factor into many state-level attempts to restrict abortion access. About 34% of respondents said Democrats had better plans for abortion policy, compared with 26% who preferred the Republican approach. The rest of respondents picked neither party or said they did not know which was better.
* The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted May 16-23, online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 4,409 adults including 2,036 Democrats, 1,637 Republicans and 530 independents. The results have a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of between 2 and 5 percentage points. – https://news.yahoo.com/factbox-broad-u-support-abortion-144344382.html
DCSCA (461523) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:25 pmIf the crowd today breached the SC building and started torching offices, I’m sure that Biden’s DoJ would leave no stone unturned trying to find a reason not to charge them.
Not to worry- Leaker Alito will pee on the flames. 😉
DCSCA (461523) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:29 pmre that bodily autonomy argument. I could be walking across a bridge and the bridge could fall in the water, that doesn’t mean I intended to get wet.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:33 pmThe CA “gun roster”, which has not added a new gun in a decade and will age all guns off the list in January, is certain to fall.
As I understand it, that’s “may own”, too. The ungood guns are legal for some people, such as the po-po. Disparate treatment. Like the New York permit process. So, yes, I agree. It should fall.
nk (25a24e) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:44 pm@11 The fun part is asset will be ranting against the Jan/6 violence before you know it
frosty (09987e) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:47 pm@10 I think the night of rage will be all bark. Lots of posters and chanting and what not that further illustrate the need for a better mental health system and the decline of the educational system.
frosty (09987e) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:51 pmOr, maybe they torch the Supreme Court building, but sadly no one is caught.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/24/2022 @ 6:12 pmNow the most vocal advocates for unfettered gun ownership are men sitting in their cars in sunglasses and baseball caps, recording themselves as they dump unhinged rants into their phones about their rights and conspiracies and socialism.
Nichols should probably get his fat backside out of the cocktail circuit more often and talk to non-elites on a level that’s a bit more complex than placing his food order.
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/24/2022 @ 8:17 pm“Now the most vocal advocates for unfettered gun ownership are men sitting in their cars in sunglasses and baseball caps, recording themselves as they dump unhinged rants into their phones about their rights and conspiracies and socialism.”
Nonsense. Sunglasses and baseball caps? Why not just say MAGA hats?
You’re seeing people promoted on social media, that makes them the most promoted (for whatever reason), not the most vocal.
Maybe talk to more gun owners, almost all really haven’t changed over the past few decades, they just don’t want criminals and incompetent police (see Uvalde) to be the only ones armed.
Obudman (2d52ed) — 6/24/2022 @ 8:20 pmOn item 6 – yes, absolutely. And large numbers of both sides are doing it. It’s a big part of why I am losing hope.
aphrael (5d5fb9) — 6/24/2022 @ 9:17 pmThat’s an astonishingly dishonest representation of that article, njrob. The article talks about how many pro life organizations are afraid of these rumored attacks and quotes some of them as wondering why pelpsi and Biden are silent.
Your synopsis implies that they are themselves calling for attacks using coded language.
I am astonished. I would not have expected that behavior.
aphrael (5d5fb9) — 6/24/2022 @ 9:25 pmOn item 6 – yes, absolutely. And large numbers of both sides are doing it. It’s a big part of why I am losing hope.
aphrael (5d5fb9) — 6/24/2022 @ 9:17 pm
You literally, in the other thread, said that your side was going to fight to “swing the pendulum” back on your first real defeat in the culture war since the death of the ERA.
If you want to know why things are the way they are, it’s because the left got far too comfortable in racking up win after win for 40 years. Now that the right is pushing back, suddenly everything that challenges leftist orthodoxy is a “threat to popular democracy” (which really just means marxist pretenses about how society should be shaped).
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:06 pm@37. Rescinding a constitutionally mandated right –a freedom… the freedom of choice– in a country with a 240 year governing history of expanding constitutional rights to the citizenry, isn’t a win to charcaterize as ‘the right pushing back’– unless your Leiterhosen und brownshirts need dry cleaned after a night of book burning.
DCSCA (2998cb) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:23 pm@37. Rescinding a constitutionally mandated right –a freedom… the freedom of choice– in a country with a 240 year governing history of expanding constitutional rights to the citizenry, isn’t a win to charcaterize as ‘the right pushing back’– unless your Leiterhosen und brownshirts need dry cleaned after a night of book burning.
DCSCA (2998cb) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:23 pm
Pfft. Marxist historic determinism doesn’t apply to reality. After 50 years, your side STILL can’t get more than 25% support for abortion on demand. Talk about a cherry on top of the L.
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:25 pm@39. My side? Don’t give a damn about abortion. The issue is rescinding a constitutionally mandated right; a freedom; the freedom of choice; under a governance where the 240 year arc of history has been expanding constitutional rights to the citizenry. That ended today. And it will be just that easier to rescind the next right, then the next and so on. That’s the tragedy.
DCSCA (2998cb) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:35 pm@39. My side? Don’t give a damn about abortion.
@37. Rescinding a constitutionally mandated right –a freedom… the freedom of choice
Yes, you’re very disinvested in it. And parroting the same argument doesn’t make it any more factual.
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:40 pm@41. parroting the same argument doesn’t make it any more factual.
Except it is.
DCSCA (2998cb) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:46 pmCalifornia’s water situation worsens:
It seems that the state’s push for mandated units built per city to ease the housing shortage will only compound matters. If there is limited supply of water, where will the estimated 1,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 new residents to a city/county get their water from? There is a tipping point where resources are so limited as to make it unreasonable to force regions to build more housing units.
It would not surprise me at all if the next war our state/country faces is over water.
Dana (1225fc) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:00 pmI could be walking across a bridge and the bridge could fall in the water, that doesn’t mean I intended to get wet.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/24/2022 @ 5:33 pm
it means you intended to take the risk of the bridge falling and you getting wet
JF (248df2) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:38 pm@Dana@43 A hidden thing that is happening with groundwater that I don’t think most people know about is that as we draw it down, we start to reach levels where the level of various solutes (stuff dissolved in the water) reach unsafe levels for drinking and cities/towns that used to use ground water have to supplement or replace with reservoir water. (also, IDK what is in the water in the mid/south Central Valley- no, I do, it’s pesticides probably-, but it makes me physically ill and I had to buy 5 gallon jugs of water when I lived there)
Nic (896fdf) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:40 pmExcept it is.
DCSCA (2998cb) — 6/24/2022 @ 10:46 pm
Except it isn’t.
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:46 pm@JF@44 Oh, yeah, my buddy? He couldn’t make it because he intended to get in a car intentional instead. Yep, Jim fell off the roof in his home improvement intentional. The bathroom really is the least safe room in your house, with all the injuries you intend to get by showering and having an intentional.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:50 pm@8 “That’s not really ajustified conclusion — so is saying that taking the 5th amendment means you’re guilty — especially of anything you could be accused of.”
and also requesting immunity in exchange for testimony
in any case, after seventeen months kinzinger and his democrat friends have yet to see any of those pardon seekers get indicted
put up or shut up
JF (248df2) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:55 pmIt would not surprise me at all if the next war our state/country faces is over water.
Over the last few decades, the state has proposed plans for new reservoirs in the desert, then abandoned those plans every time, due to envoironmental concerns. There is always some lizard or some such.
The first sad truth is that NO WATER is its own envorinmental concern, with countless species put at risk in each drought. The second sad truth is that no one ever had to file an environmental impact statement for doing nothing.
Doing noting always wins. Then they wonder what happened. Again.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 12:01 amNic (896fdf) — 6/24/2022 @ 11:50 pm
or getting up on your roof putting up your own holiday lights intentional, instead of hiring someone?
was being an actuary one of those career choices you crossed off starting from middle school?
JF (248df2) — 6/25/2022 @ 12:02 amExcept it is.
We obviously need to send DCSCA to the Argument Clinic.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 12:05 am@51. We obviously need to send Kevin to a pub in Putney:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9fly1
DCSCA (497ce1) — 6/25/2022 @ 12:59 am@46. Except it isn’t.
{Pfft. Except it is. FWO. 1 + 1 = 2. Not 11.
‘Da Nile’ be a river in Egypt.
DCSCA (497ce1) — 6/25/2022 @ 1:02 am@JF@50 Are you saying that all those red blooded Americans who put their lights up the day after Thanksgiving like normal human beings instead of paying someone else to do it deserve to get hurt? (seriously, you pay someone else to put your Christmas lights up?)
Nic (896fdf) — 6/25/2022 @ 1:42 am55. Positive ripple effects of recent elections:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-francisco-school-board-votes-132508142.html
urbanleftbehind (d5b707) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:54 am@47 Are you arguing that the chance of getting pregnant is so low as to be considered an accident on par with a bridge collapsing? I would think the number of people you encounter and the number of successful bridge crossings that happen on a daily would make that a hard position to hold.
The falling off the roof one is the worst example because, yes, if you climb up on your roof you should take extra precautions. If you climb higher than 3’ on a ladder you should take extra precautions but most people ignore them.
frosty (6844fa) — 6/25/2022 @ 6:37 am@54 That’s not how “intent” and “deserve” work and this switch up is a bit disingenuous. If you want to argue that people shouldn’t be responsible for the inevitable consequences of their choices there have to be better options than poor analogies or denying basic facts or appeals to emotion.
My favorite part of the pro-choice position, and it was one of the things that convinced me that at least some of them know they’re morally wrong, is the constant claims of victim status.
frosty (6844fa) — 6/25/2022 @ 6:57 am@ Nic,
Interestingly, I am aware of this because I have recently been involved in a project wherein a 100-year-old heritage grove was on the chopping block, and in my research with various foundations and experts, I learned that Chilean fertilizer was commonly used in the 30’s-50’s in this region, and over the decades it seeped into the groundwater and could render it dangerous to drink. While there are now cleaner fertilizers being used and environmental standards that must be met to protect water sources, that wasn’t always the case and those effects can still be seen, depending on the duration and quantities used.
Of concern during this drought, has been water hogging by wealthy residents in such exclusive enclaves like Montecito, where plenty of residents can afford to drill their own wells:
Dana (1225fc) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:06 amThe pro-choice individuals see themselves as victims? Or do you mean that pro-choice individuals see women who get abortions as victims?
Dana (1225fc) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:10 amMy two favorite cartoons from the Politico collection this week are this one and
this one.
(If you would like to know more about how political cartoons have changed our history, you might like John Adler’s “Doomed by Cartoon: How Cartoonist Thomas Nast and the New York Times Brought Down Boss Tweed and His Ring of Thieves”.
Thomas Nast)
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:44 am@59 They assert victim status for the women who, they claim, can’t get abortions in a variety of hypotheticals. That then lays the groundwork for a blaming the victim charge and an implication that pro-lifers are on shaky moral ground because they’re in favor of this consequence as some sort of punishment.
You can see this in the assertion that fewer abortions will physically harm women.
Most abortions aren’t done out of some medical concern for women. They are done by women who’ve been told they don’t have to worry about the consequences of their sexual activity. They’re done out of a financial concern.
frosty (09987e) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:48 amThis one is right on the money.
nk (80a403) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:56 amAphrael,
You can listen to or read what Pelosi, Schumer ans their ilk said for themselves. Inciting, talking about rights stripped away, holding people accountable, they are responsible for the consequences.
It is easy to find.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=schumer+remarks.on+roe.overturn&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiamAYoyGoqo
NJRob (81c6a3) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:10 amOne, there’s a word for those commenters who complain about a blogger not writing about their preferred topics: Immature.
Two, looks like the Gannett newsrooms are having the cancel-culture issues as the wokey staff at the NYT and WaPo. There’s a word for that, too: Disappointing.
Three, the word for Antonov and Russian leadership is delusional, for their whole take on Ukraine. Somehow, Patriarch Krill’s incident is fitting, the guy who blessed a nuclear-bomb carrying missile that was named Satan.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:15 amHere’s agood news story form the Isle of Skye:
And she, with her friends, did everything Amanda and Paul needed done. With that start, I think they can look forward to a long and happy life together.
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:16 am@59 The issue of intent is what undermines the abortion argument without resorting to a religious argument. The claims of victim status is what tells you some pro-choice people know they don’t have a good argument.
frosty (09987e) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:22 amThat’s excellent, nk!
Dana (1225fc) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:39 amHere is the Soviet Constitution of 1936, popularly known as the Stalin Constitution. Just read Chapter X : Fundamental Rights and Duties of Citizens. (Spit-take warning!)
And then think about the game of Go Fish your slave-owning, genocidal, land-snatching forefathers left you, for you to argue over its rules, while your government keeps people locked up for years without trial or bail and its thugs burn babies’ faces off with flashbangs without any personal consequences to them and that’s not even near the worst of the things it does.
nk (80a403) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:43 amThank you, Dana, and now I’m sorry I went sour with my next comment. It’s the sunspot!
nk (80a403) — 6/25/2022 @ 8:46 am1. it’s putin’s fault
2. it’s republicans’ fault
3. it’s tucker’s fault that nobody believes 1 and 2
with that out of the way… anything else going on?
JF (868fbd) — 6/25/2022 @ 9:01 amA bit of sanity, even in Seattle? Danny Westneat, a columnist for the Seattle Times, and a partisan Democrat, raised what the June 11th headline called a “difficult question”.
Voters in Seattle want stronger gun control — but they have been cutting back the very police force which would have to enforce any new gun control laws.
(Seattle’s very own Trotskyite, Kshama Sawant, thinks Westneat is a “conservative”. )
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/25/2022 @ 10:27 amShould Arredondo be charged with multiple counts of involuntary manslaughter?
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 10:52 amthink about the game of Go Fish your slave-owning, genocidal, land-snatching forefathers left you
Speak for yourself. My forefathers were held as serfs on their own Irish land until well after the slaves were freed here.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 11:01 amHmm. I dunno. Scott Peterson, the Broward Coward, has been charged with criminal neglect of children in his care.
For involuntary manslaughter in Uvalde, I can see a better case against the cops who forcibly kept parents from going into the school to rescue their children. And even more so against the ones who kept the husband of one teacher who was killed, himself an armed off-duty police officer, from going in.
nk (e5c287) — 6/25/2022 @ 11:09 am@frosty@56 I’m saying that having sex isn’t indicative of an attempt to get pregnant. Most of the time when people have sex they don’t intend to get pregnant.
@Dana@58 That sounds like an interesting project to have worked on!
Nic (896fdf) — 6/25/2022 @ 2:21 pmhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/the-week-in-pictures-liberal-hubris-edition.php
mg (8cbc69) — 6/25/2022 @ 2:29 pm@75 Wishful thinking and bad decisions don’t change the biology. It is a risk and it’s a greater risk than your crossing a bridge example. Spontaneous pregnancies are uncommon.
Gambler’s don’t intend to lose. Does that mean they should get their money back?
frosty (10827b) — 6/25/2022 @ 3:00 pm@frosty@77 Most of the time when people have sex not only do they not intend to get pregnant, they don’t get pregnant.
(Do we really want to talk about the morality of the gambling industry?)
Nic (896fdf) — 6/25/2022 @ 3:19 pm“You shouldn’t legislate morality”
‘Legislating morality is to enact laws in an attempt to bring legal code into line with a moral system. In the context of abortion, same sex marriage and other social issues, some theists want to legislate their own morality. In many cases, it treats the moral system of a specific religion above all others and can be counter to secularism. Attempting to legislate morality raises the question: whose morality should we use? Also, there are moral principles that probably should not be enshrined in law, such as adultery or religious dietary laws. Perhaps people should regulate their own behavior and not seek to impose it in law i.e. abortion is a personal matter, or at least between that single individual and God.’
http://religions.wiki/index.php/You_shouldn%27t_legislate_morality
DCSCA (4f9c6a) — 6/25/2022 @ 3:32 pm@78 This is largely because of contraceptives. There widespread use indicates that pregnancy is a risk and that it’s widely understood to be so.
The gambling industry is more honest than the abortion industry and isn’t responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of babies every year.
frosty (21cd7e) — 6/25/2022 @ 3:55 pmLegislating morality is just as much a Woke enterprise as it is a religious one.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:21 pmHere in New Mexico, a lot of sewer outflow is now processed, then injected into the aquifer.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:24 pmThis one is right on the money.
nk (80a403) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:56 am
I literally laughed out loud. That rendering of Tucker Carlson is spot on!
norcal (da5491) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:49 pm“You can’t legislate morality” is nonsensical mouthing by people who are all mouth and no sense. There are few laws with no ethical or moral basis. The opposite is more true: Legal codes evolve into moral codes.
nk (e5c287) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:59 pmHere in New Mexico, a lot of sewer outflow is now processed, then injected into the aquifer.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 4:24 pm
I’ve heard that the Facebook data center in Los Lunas does something like this, because their facility uses a ton of groundwater.
Las Vegas has been doing the same thing for a long time as well. I’m not sure where their usage stats are currently, but the city has rights to about 300K acre feet from the Colorado River. 20 years ago, they were using about 500K, and injecting the delta back in to Lake Mead as effluent.
Factory Working Orphan (2775f0) — 6/25/2022 @ 5:05 pmMost of the time when people have sex they don’t intend to get pregnant.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/25/2022 @ 2:21 pm
Just most of the time? I’ve never had sex with the intention of impregnation. 😛
norcal (da5491) — 6/25/2022 @ 5:05 pm@84. “You can’t legislate morality” is nonsensical mouthing by people who are all mouth and no sense. There are few laws with no ethical or moral basis. The opposite is more true: Legal codes evolve into moral codes.
… said Cicero businessman, entrepreneur and connoisseur of fine, distilled beverages … Alphonse Capone.
Und Der Bingle: 😉
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjFyX2sSTGs
DCSCA (a78721) — 6/25/2022 @ 5:28 pmhttps://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1540852015693037568
Lol. Lmao.
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/25/2022 @ 6:23 pmGas is so high that Dolly Parton is now carpooling with Jolene.
norcal (da5491) — 6/25/2022 @ 6:46 pm@88 not sure who miller is but it doesn’t sound like he knows how to use google to lookup statistics
frosty (cd9b1d) — 6/25/2022 @ 6:55 pmhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/congratulations-youre-fired.php
About as horrific a situation as a lawyer can imagine. They vigorously defended their client, won the case of a lifetime and are told to get rid of all clients including the one that they won or lose their job. So they left the firm.
The left won’t allow people to defend their rights.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:14 pmI hope that Clement gets a huge payout. This is a constructive dismissal and they need to buy his partnership out.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:22 pmMary Miller (R-IL). Notable for saying on Jan 5 “Hitler was right on one thing. He said whoever has the youth, has the future.”
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:23 pmhttps://nypost.com/2022/06/25/christian-pregnancy-center-in-colorado-vandalized-burned-after-roe-v-wade-reversal/
An ongoing campaign of terrorism from the left.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 6/25/2022 @ 7:35 pmDana
I know Das Williams and he is OK personally but is really one of those Democrats that starts out at a non profit, activist, moves on the City office, county office, state office back loses in primary for House seat. When we meet, I’m cordial and tolerant, but wouldn’t want to see him in any office This is an old article but here is the money quote for Das.
“In 2011, the Montecito Water District obtained approximately 82% of its water from the Santa Ynez River System, 4% from the State Water Project, 11% from Doulton Tunnel intrusion and relied on the Montecito Groundwater Basin for 3% of its yearly production needs. Review of water quality for recently tested MWD wells shows no quality degradation when compared to previous years. Studies also indicate that seawater intrusion is not a significant problem in the basin. It is thought that deeper aquifers of the basin are protected from seawater intrusion by an impermeable offshore fault. However, some encroachment of seawater might occur in shallower aquifers during periods of heavy pumping such as during the early 1960s”
Other articles put the groundwater number at 10-15% which is both correct and incorrect. Correct in that the Doulton Tunnel is considered ground water, incorrect as to that water being from the “Montecito Groundwater basin”. Montecito built Juncal dam on the other side of the Santa Ynez range forming Jameson Lake. To access the water in that dam, part of the project was drilling the Doulton Tunnel through the Santa Ynez range to Juncal Dam/Jameson Lake. Fully 11% of Montecito’s water is recovered water that has percolates down through the fractured rocks in the mountain and drips, flows into the Doulton Tunnel. Montecito is too rocky to see much if any subsidence.
Side note to Doulton Tunnel. In 1969 a long storm dropped 27 inches of rain at Juncal Dam as measured by Mr. Willian Brooks shortly before he and his wife were swept away when their tenders cabin washed away. The rescue operation was mounted through the Tunnel because all Santa Ynez access was under ongoing flooding. The tunnel itself had a gangway which was barely above water. The rescue crew found Mrs. Brooks alive in a tree, suffering from exposure. Mr. Brooks to my knowlege was not recovered
steveg (8b02aa) — 6/25/2022 @ 9:43 pmOn that article about Oprah, that water is not worth the MWD drilling for it because they have to drill the well, pump the water into a pipe to their treatment facility.
steveg (8b02aa) — 6/25/2022 @ 10:07 pmFor that to be worth while the well has to be a heavy producer. There are deeper better pockets in the basin and Oprah’s estate is over one of them.
I have a client that has three wells on a large parcel plus rights to a horizonatal well tunneled into the mountains. The three wells are all around 700′ deep. One produces 9 GPM for 12 hours a day. the other two each produce about 30gpm 12 Hours a day. The wells cost over 200K each to drill. A nearby neighbor drilled to 800′ less than 400 yards away and got nothing. I’ve had some of the water, its sulphurous tasting and has a metallic bitterness to it. Its not considered potable, but it won’t kill you – right away
It isn’t cost effective for Montecito Water District to drill for an extra 20,000 gallons a day . Its cheaper to buy it via paying a water rights holder in the Central valley for his/her shares of the Kern or Kings Aqueduct(s) and not to farm.
steveg,
Were you by chance a consultant on the movie Chinatown? 😁
norcal (da5491) — 6/25/2022 @ 10:22 pmMostly because no one else mentioned it, I think that the Miranda decision was the correct one. It doesn’t make the inadmissible admissible, it just says that it’s not a tort if the warning is late or forgotten.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/25/2022 @ 11:37 pmHappy to take the rare opportunity to agree with DCSCA.
lurker (cd7cd4) — 6/25/2022 @ 11:39 pmhttps://theaspenbeat.com
mg (8cbc69) — 6/26/2022 @ 2:58 amGreat news.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/cdc-recommends-covid-19-vaccines-babies-kids-under-5-6-things-parents-need-know
A rather powerful, dissenting opinion on giving kids the COVID shot based on data from the actual study.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 6/26/2022 @ 4:36 amhttps://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/06/25/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-makes-ridiculous-pledge-in-response-to-roe-ruling-n584112
Lloyd Austin should’ve been fired ages ago, but for the Sec of Defense to commit to violating the law he should be canned immediately.
NJRob (3dbda4) — 6/26/2022 @ 6:33 am@102
whembly (7e0293) — 6/26/2022 @ 8:23 am*chortles in Hyde Amendment*
Happy to take the rare opportunity to agree with DCSCA.
lurker (cd7cd4) — 6/25/2022 @ 11:39 pm
Same here!
felipe (484255) — 6/26/2022 @ 8:35 am93… literally Hitler, Cthulhu !
Colonel Haiku (dae905) — 6/26/2022 @ 9:37 amI realize Jan6 happened over an election and in the sacred time where we Americans try to tranfer power peacefully. A message on these boundaries needs to be sent loud and clear to both sides.
steveg (4ecb30) — 6/26/2022 @ 10:19 amOne thing I’ve noticed is that a wing of the Democrats throw riotous tantrums over seemingly everything now.
The best news coming out today is that Democrats who lectured us all about pronouns and endless stripes of gender have narrowed it back down to men and women.
Adam Schiff and others on the committee say it was an attempted coup and it was close. It wasn’t close at all. In fact, as one of their witnesses said, I think Rusty Bowers, one thing they did reminded him of “the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.”
Sammy Finkelman (c89e81) — 6/26/2022 @ 10:29 amhttps://nypost.com/2022/06/23/usa-today-demoted-me-for-a-tweet-because-the-companys-woke-newsrooms-are-out-of-touch-with-readers/
A good explanation for why it seems our press is so out of touch with America.
NJRob (3dbda4) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:20 am@106 at least for a few days. Don’t expect consistency
frosty (509433) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:25 am@108 if DT were smart he’d decline to run. Running and winning means he’d be back in the hot seat. Running and losing means he also loses some of the free real estate he has in the minds of D’s and NeverTrump. If he continues his man behind the curtain routine he can play wizard of oz for a while.
frosty (509433) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:29 amPoll details.
Rip Murdock (c0b43b) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:35 amRelated:
Rip Murdock (c0b43b) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:55 amI give Trump full credit for the judicial appointments. Lower courts and Supreme Court. He could not have done it without McConnell, but McConnell would not have done it without Trump. Trump’s supporters were the lit fire under McConnell. Both giving him uplift and goading his behind.
nk (c1183c) — 6/26/2022 @ 11:55 amIncidentally, here’s a link to the DHS terrorism advisory. You can decide for yourself if the sources that have been flogging it have been truthful in their representation of it’s contents.
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/ntas/alerts/22_0607_S1_NTAS-Bulletin_508.pdf
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/26/2022 @ 12:23 pm@111. if DT were smart he’d decline to run. Running and winning means he’d be back in the hot seat.
ROFLMAOPIP. Have you seen his signature? A master of attention getter and consummate showman who honed his talents in the media capital of the planet and relishes being “the straw that stirs the drink” won’t dodge the center ring of the circus. Especially when he has the Wilmington clown act to follow… or is it Scranton this week.
DCSCA (2239ca) — 6/26/2022 @ 12:25 pmFlogging what ‘thulu?
NJRob (3e22fa) — 6/26/2022 @ 12:40 pmThe world is making progress against COVID; a new study shows what a powerful weapon the vaccines have been, in the first year of their use:
The researchers say we could have done even better if there had been more vaccinations.
This success, most of it elsewhere, has made COVID less dangerous to us, here in the United States. The fewer people who get it, the less chance the virus has to come up with still more variants.
(Anti-vaxxers like RFK, Jr. won’t applaud this success; sadly, most won’t even admit that it has happened.)
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/26/2022 @ 12:45 pmA friend in Pennsylvania tells me that he has seen an “Oz for New Jersey” bumper sticker, making the point that Mehmet doesn’t live in Pennsylvania, now. Oh, and he is a dual citizen, the US and Turkey. (He has promised to give up his Turkish citizenship if he wins.)
He is, as most Turks are, a Muslim. (As far as I know there is not a big Muslim vote in Pennsylvania.)
I don’t know if any reporter has asked him about the Armenian genocide, a sore subject for most Turks.
All in all, he does not seem like the best choice to hold the seat for the Republican Party.
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/26/2022 @ 1:00 pmAnd his middle name is Genghis.
nk (c1183c) — 6/26/2022 @ 1:10 pmIf any this unit survived, I think an exchange program with the City of Uvalde might be a good idea.
urbanleftbehind (d5b707) — 6/26/2022 @ 1:17 pmTwo weeks ago I was gonna cockblock for Darren Bailey, but I think I’m gonna miss that unimpeded access along I-55 and I-57 too much to take any chances…wonder if the “R for a Day” squadrons in Illinois will change the planned vote.
urbanleftbehind (d5b707) — 6/26/2022 @ 1:21 pmTwo weeks ago I was gonna vote for Darren Bailey, but I think I’m gonna miss that unimpeded access along I-55 and I-57 too much to take any chances…wonder if the “R for a Day” squadrons in Illinois will change the planned vote.
urbanleftbehind (d5b707) — 6/26/2022 @ 1:21 pmJim, I am not seeing that your 12:45 was peer reviewed:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext#section-3d6acba1-acea-4be2-8dc9-b7e14e5b6583
It certainly has non-biased funding.
BuDuh (340919) — 6/26/2022 @ 2:12 pmLet me know if I skipped over the peer reviewed distinction when I scanned the study. Apologies in advance if I did.
All in all, he does not seem like the best choice to hold the seat for the Republican Party.
Perhaps. But he is the only choice to do so.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/26/2022 @ 2:15 pmLankford is favored to win his primary. Ewww!
Rip Murdock (c0b43b) — 6/26/2022 @ 4:13 pmMAGAWORLD makes excuses for Lankford.
Rip Murdock (c0b43b) — 6/26/2022 @ 4:26 pm@BuDah@124 “All original research articles published in the Lancet journals have undergone independent, external peer review, including statistical review. A research article is usually peer reviewed by three clinical or subject-based experts and a statistical reviewer.”
Most professional journals include their peer review policy with the journal publication policies rather than article by article.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/26/2022 @ 4:34 pmDIMWORLD makes excuses for every insane policy they support, every act of violence they perpetrate, every business they burn to the ground, every LEO they injure, maim or cause the death of.
I’d like to hear their excuses for not “codifying” Roe during Obama’s Reign of Error, when they had full majorities. Or Biden not getting it done as he’d promised to do if elected during the 2020 campaign.
Colonel Haiku (7783d9) — 6/26/2022 @ 4:35 pmTruth is they always wanted to use it as a divisive issue.
Re: Lankford, for MAGA to back this guy when they are hysterical about “groomers” hiding behind every potted plant, pizza joint, or even operating in plain sight, it’s a hoot to see them go to bat for Lankford and vote for him as well. Unbelievable. This is another one of those party before everything else moments. This
Dana (1225fc) — 6/26/2022 @ 5:44 pmis going to bemindset has started to be the undoing of the GOP. They continue to welcome Trump as their titular head, and now Lankford (and in between, you name it). The GOP deserves to be shamed.Langford, along with former OKC mayor Mick Cornett, are kinda sorta the moderate Lindsey Graham counterpart wing of the OK GOP.
urbanleftbehind (90a6c5) — 6/26/2022 @ 5:50 pmAlso, I guess it would be important to know whether they were discussing a 13 yr old consenting to sex with another minor or an adult.
Dana (1225fc) — 6/26/2022 @ 5:57 pmThe questions seemed pretty direct, as is the fact 13-year olds cannot consent to sex under any circumstances in OK.
Rip Murdock (c0b43b) — 6/26/2022 @ 6:18 pmThe GOP deserves to be shamed.
supporters of creepy joe seem really weirded out by lankford
JF (e60b17) — 6/26/2022 @ 6:47 pmhttps://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/06/26/donald-trump-finds-three-more-rinos-to-call-names-n584698
mg (8cbc69) — 6/26/2022 @ 6:52 pmTime to move along
Time to move along
…said the Big Orange Dog to the ideological conservative fleas brushed out of his tail. 😉
DCSCA (a10503) — 6/26/2022 @ 6:59 pmThat’s messed up, in Staten f’in Island of all places…
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ex-nyc-mayor-rudy-giuliani-215448382.html
urbanleftbehind (d5b707) — 6/26/2022 @ 7:52 pmAfter all, the Second Amendment guarantees an “individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,” Heller, 554 U. S., at 592, and confrontation can surely take place outside the home.
Although we remarked in Heller that the need for armed self-defense is perhaps “most acute” in the home, id., at 628, we did not suggest that the need was insignificant elsewhere. Many Americans hazard greater danger outside the home than in it. See Moore v. Madigan, 702 F. 3d 933, 937 (CA7 2012) (“[A] Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to beattacked on a sidewalk in a rough neighborhood than in his apartment on the 35th floor of the Park Tower”). The text of the Second Amendment reflects that reality. [Emphasis added.]
Justice Thomas.
Wish d.c. had more men like Thomas.
mg (8cbc69) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:03 amIn an unpermitted opinion, and there are some. We all agree on that. It’s to be expected that some people will try to move some opinions into the unpermitted category.
It’s kind of arbitrary. You can find no source that will elucidate what is out of the question to state and what is out of the question to disagree with. It’s all ad hoc.
Sammy Finkelman (b434ee) — 6/27/2022 @ 6:54 amRe; Havana syndrome. It;s probably being done by a number of countries and is limited by the fact that it is applies to very small area and requires training and skill to use. It is operated from a mobile van and there is, or was, at least one such device in the United States. They have not caught anyone in the act and are probably not even trying yet.
Use requires information from moles and it’s main purpose is to take some U.S. government people out of the picture and it probably relies on spies to help in targeting.
Sammy Finkelman (b434ee) — 6/27/2022 @ 7:01 amAnother good decision by the Supreme Court this AM on the Bremerton high school coach.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 6/27/2022 @ 7:37 am@141. Supreme Court says public school officials can pray openly
https://www.axios.com/2022/06/27/religion-prayer-public-school-supreme-court-ruling
Pray they teach STEM as well as how to spin and run, punt, pass and kick.
DCSCA (df7d2c) — 6/27/2022 @ 7:56 amIt’s in line with the school voucher case. “We’ve got your wall of separation right here!”
nk (18ae23) — 6/27/2022 @ 8:13 amat least this is in line with DCSCA’s theory of the historical expansion of rights. silver linings all around.
frosty (e06071) — 6/27/2022 @ 8:38 am@144. You’ve probably too young to have gone to public school and had your teacher, in my case, Mrs. Desmond, start the day w/a prayer then the pledge– then one morning, no more prayer. And when asked why by the kids, told they couldn’t any more. That was back in ’62.
DCSCA (856981) — 6/27/2022 @ 9:12 amNot Necessarily Related:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/27/2022 @ 9:17 amhttps://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2022/06/27/breaking-supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-football-coach-who-prayed-with-his-players-after-games-n1607504
Another case where thankfully the only obvious decision won, but the 3 leftists voted as a block against the 1st amendment.
Just imagine how these cases would’ve gone if we voted as the frauds at the Dispatch or Lincoln Project demanded.
NJRob (7e05db) — 6/27/2022 @ 9:51 amIn California, a Republican congressman who voted to impeach Trump survives his primary
The district was part of the phony “independent” commission’s gerrymander.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/27/2022 @ 10:29 amBad boys, and one bad girl: I looked through the Wikipedia biographies of the six Republican members of Congress who are known to have asked for pardons, and was a little surprised at how much trouble they have been in, over the years.
Matt Gaetz’s problems are probably the best known, but I had not heard this: “Between 1999 and 2014, Gaetz received 16 speeding tickets in Florida.” And was arrested for drunk driving in 2008.
As most of you know, he is currently under investigation by both the House Ethics committee, and the Justice Department for sex with minors and sex trafficking. (He denies the allegations and says he is a vicitm of an attempted extortion. Both the allegations and the extortion attempt could be true.)
(Here are the six: Mo Brooks (AL), Andy Biggs (AZ), Matt Gaetz (FL), Louie Gohmert (TX), Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA) and Scott Perry (PA).)
Jim Miller (406a93) — 6/27/2022 @ 10:31 amAll districts were part of the commission’s “gerrymander.” I don’t like independent commissions as they are not directly responsible to the people. They are doing a job that should be done by the legislature.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/27/2022 @ 11:11 amRip, if you go to the commission’s site and look at the bios of the commissioners, you’ll see that it was about 10 Democrats, 3 utter RINOs and 2 Republicans. One of the Democrats was a professional apportionment expert.
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and
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The pattern is easy to see.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/27/2022 @ 11:17 amAll districts were part of the commission’s “gerrymander.”
Yes, but his district was typical of GOP districts: right-of-center voters were moved out, into fewer districts.
Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 6/27/2022 @ 11:21 amJan. 6 Panel Abruptly Sets Tuesday Hearing on ‘Recently Obtained Evidence’
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/27/2022 @ 11:44 amAgain, I voted against the commission concept. It’s the legislature’s job to reapportion districts. Their backgrounds make no difference, the commissioners are unelected bureaucrats not responsible to anyone.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/27/2022 @ 11:46 amBreaking: January 6 committee schedules another hearing for tomorrow after saying they would take at least two weeks off from public hearings.
https://www.newser.com/story/322259/jan-6-panel-calls-surprise-hearing.html
It’s probably real.
What I am thinking of is this: There is a Proud Boys tape from December 30 in which the leader tells them to avoid breaking police lines, and not to do other things which they did do. It is full of disparaging comments. But he He also possibly hints of secret orders to come. (it may very well have been intended to be taped as “exculpatory” evidence. Or maybe to limit the plotting to real insiders. Talk about a devious conspiracy!)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/26/us/politics/proud-boys-jan-6.html
You know, they, or people associated with them, could have lied to Donald Trump, or his representatives, too. Not just for the record or to their less trusted members. And somebody may have explained faalsely to Trump what “wild” meant.
The planning began at least as far back as December 19 – yet here is Torrio telling his members on December 30, not to act violently or not to be the first anyway.
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/27/2022 @ 1:45 pmBut the committee will probably not want to undermine the Trump did it narrative of some Democrats so I don’t know if it will deal with this — except that this “exculpatory” tape was leaked to the New York Times just now. So in some way, this sudden hearing may be related.
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/27/2022 @ 1:49 pm150. I thought they weren’t issuing any more opinions.
Apparently they only put says on the calendar when they are sure.
Now they added Wednesday for more opinions
https://www.supremecourt.gov
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:15 pmfour cases remain — oklahoma v castro-huerta (state criminal jurisdiction over crimes committed by non-tribal members on tribal land); biden v texas (is the biden administration required to continue the stay-in-mexico strategy); torres vs. tex dept of public safety (can Congress authorize military veterans to sue state-agency employers for violation of veteran-related employment law *without the consent of the state*); west virginia v epa (widely expected to overturn chevron deference)
aphrael (4c4719) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:21 pmOn June 24, it looked like Friday was the last day:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220624082117/https://www.supremecourt.gov
Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:22 pm“Another case where thankfully the only obvious decision won, but the 3 leftists voted as a block against the 1st amendment.”
What actually happened: https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1541429605520875522
https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1541431562671194113
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:26 pmSammy, at 162 — not if you were tracking undecided cases, it didn’t.
aphrael (4c4719) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:35 pm@163 Those twitter feeds are always awesome. You get such original and deeps thoughts like:
I think this guys real crime is he took time that could be used to correctly educate these football players on questioning their gender roles and sexual preferences.
frosty (e06071) — 6/27/2022 @ 2:55 pm“I think this guys real crime is he took time that could be used to correctly educate these football players on questioning their gender roles and sexual preferences.”
Why do you think the majority side felt it necessary to misrepresent the facts of the case?
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:09 pm“Breaking: January 6 committee schedules another hearing for tomorrow after saying they would take at least two weeks off from public hearings.”
They’d better make sure the “new evidence” is still sticking to the outhouse wall in the morning.
Sad.
Colonel Haiku (04e645) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:32 pm“Those twitter feeds are always awesome.”
You’ll probably love this one:
https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1541508454740885511
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:34 pm“They’d better make sure the “new evidence” is still sticking to the outhouse wall in the morning.”
Might be related to this:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1541538382756585472
Davethulhu (763837) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:37 pm@169 If John Eastman didn’t cremate his phone prior to June 22, he’s not only a subversive; he’s an idiot.
norcal (da5491) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:56 pmWhat is it with the gazpacho seizing people’s cell phones all the time? Never mind all the things people store on them these days — from their driver’s license to their bank car to their commuter train ticket — for most people that’s their “home phone”. Where do these Dunkin denizens get off?
nk (18ae23) — 6/27/2022 @ 3:59 pm@171-
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 6/27/2022 @ 4:03 pmYou answered your own question.
More of our troops will be on the move to Ukraine to fight the Climate war.
mg (8cbc69) — 6/29/2022 @ 4:41 pmThen the US army will go into meltdown when the Russians don’t get their pronouns right.
More US army troops will be on the move to the Ukraine to fight the climate war.
mg (8cbc69) — 6/29/2022 @ 4:44 pmThat is when the us troops will have a meltdown because the Russians didn’t get their pronouns right.
Eighty-five percent of US adults feel country headed in wrong direction: Poll
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/eighty-five-percent-of-us-adults-feel-country-headed-in-wrong-direction-poll
Carterrific, Joey!
DCSCA (b5715b) — 6/29/2022 @ 5:12 pmthe other 15% are on the other thread
mg (8cbc69) — 6/29/2022 @ 6:05 pmPriceless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkJfRpktGc&t=4s
DCSCA (87d22b) — 6/29/2022 @ 6:11 pmGood grief. This morning there was a PAC 12. As of right now it’s a PAC 8 and probably disintegrated.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 6/30/2022 @ 6:05 pmhat is PAC12 and PAC 8?
Sammy Finkelman (0ac4d7) — 7/12/2022 @ 6:14 pm