Interview: Trump Refused To Condemn Supporters Who Wanted To Hang Mike Pence, Instead Believed They Were Justified
[guest post by Dana]
Has any former U.S. president defended those making threats of physical harm against his vice-president because they were, um, angry? And yet:
Former President Trump — in a taped interview with Jonathan Karl of ABC News that was shared with Axios — defended, quite extensively, supporters who threatened to “hang” former Vice President Mike Pence.
Jonathan Karl: “Were you worried about him during that siege? Were you worried about his safety?”
Trump: “No, I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape. No. Because I had heard he was in very good shape. But, but, no, I think — ”
Karl: “Because you heard those chants — that was terrible. I mean — ”
Trump: “He could have — well, the people were very angry.”
Karl: “They were saying ‘hang Mike Pence.'”
Trump: “Because it’s common sense, Jon. It’s common sense that you’re supposed to protect. How can you — if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? — how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that? And I’m telling you: 50/50, it’s right down the middle for the top constitutional scholars when I speak to them. Anybody I spoke to — almost all of them at least pretty much agree, and some very much agree with me — because he’s passing on a vote that he knows is fraudulent. How can you pass a vote that you know is fraudulent? Now, when I spoke to him, I really talked about all of the fraudulent things that happened during the election. I didn’t talk about the main point, which is the legislatures did not approve — five states. The legislatures did not approve all of those changes that made the difference between a very easy win for me in the states, or a loss that was very close, because the losses were all very close.”
Why Mike Pence would ever speak to Trump after learning about this is beyond me. But given the kind of man we know Trump to be, it makes perfect sense that he would defend and justify his supporters’ bad behavior. He clearly remains obsessed with the 2020 election as he continues to push the same tired old lies about it. And he still refuses to acknowledge that, no matter how much he wrongly insists it’s true, a vice-president does not have the power to reject the Electoral College results. A very small man whose massive ego will not allow him to let go and move on.
You can hear this portion of the interview at the link above.
P.S. I am going to make this a standard pre-emptive strike on any future Trump posts because, given certain commenters, it has proven to be necessary: Unfortunately, Trump still matters because he continues to lead the pack of GOP hopefuls for 2024. And that is a problem for everyone.