Trump’s Tweet About Suspending Immigration
OK, fine. I will put up a post about this.
President Trump said on Monday evening that he intended to close the United States to people trying to immigrate into the country to live and work, a drastic move that he said would protect American workers from foreign competition once the nation’s economy began to recover from the shutdown caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
“In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter, “I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!”
There are no details, so it’s a Rorschach test. What do you see? A courageous attempt to protect our borders and preserve jobs for our citizens? A pathetic attempt to change the subject from the lack of a plan to comprehensively test for coronavirus? Or Carrot Top and his twin brother high-fiving after doing a terrible set of prop comedy?
It’s another example of shutting the barn door after the horses escaped. If he was serious, then he could’ve done it on March 13th, when he declared a national emergency. All he’s doing now is virtue-signaling his xenophobia.
Paul Montagu (0073cc) — 4/21/2020 @ 8:32 amJust slipping the one-tooths the old baloney.
nk (1d9030) — 4/21/2020 @ 8:36 amCan’t really get too worked up over it Apparently he’s had this power the entire time and hasn’t used it. I really wish congress would make a list of all the powers they delegated the president under the assumption that the President wouldn’t be a wildly incompetent liar and start dialing them back. Unfortunately the GOP won’t go along because it would limit Trumps powers now, and Dems won’t do it because they’re planning to make better use of them when they get into the white house.
So government just gets more powerful.
Time123 (306531) — 4/21/2020 @ 8:42 amIt won’t go anywhere. Just like everything else he promises. It’s just this week’s distraction from last week’s f***ups. Next week, we’ll get another distraction from this week’s f***ups.
nk (1d9030) — 4/21/2020 @ 8:54 am“I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!”
Anyone want to guess what that means? Green cards for condo buyers in a T-rump/Ivanka property included?
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 4/21/2020 @ 8:55 amEvery few days there will be another shocking tweet. We’ll all talk about how dumb it is. Trump’s fans (many of whom are virulently racist and stupid) will take this to mean his critics are literally Satanic. This post will prove to them that Patterico is open borders. While Trump’s fans freak out and fight about this fake controversy, they aren’t thinking about anything relevant to their lives. They get poorer, their lives dimmer, and boy America sure isn’t great again, but they don’t notice. When this effect fizzles, Trump will tweet about his ban on chocolate ice cream or his cure for AIDS.
Dustin (c56600) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:00 amIt’s another example of shutting the barn door after the horses escaped. If he was serious, then he could’ve done it on March 13th, when he declared a national emergency. All he’s doing now is virtue-signaling his xenophobia.
If he was serious, he would have done it January 21, 2017.
RipMurdock (d2a2a8) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:09 amWell given that it’s clear there’s going to be (an absolutely necessary) exemption for farm workers it’s hard to see how it functions as a health measure.
It’s just another way of making life miserable for some foreigners as a way of placating a base happy to put all the blame on strangers.
Victor (4355e3) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:12 amI have given up trying to make sense of our Tiger President.
noel (4d3313) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:29 amVirtue signaling for the keep-brown-down yokels.
john (cd2753) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:32 amMaybe he is coming around on the dubiousness of hydroxochloroquine, since he wouldn’t have H1B to horse-trade with Indian suppliers for it.
urbanleftbehind (72cd3a) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:33 amThe problem was never legal immigranrs, it was the uncontrolled migration of the unskilled and semi-skilled. Not only did they drive down wages for similarly skilled Americans, but their sheer numbers overwhelmed our cities infrastructure and housing.
Banning legal immigration when you cannot stop illegal immigration (or “refugee” immigration) is, to say it most kindly, unworkable.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:55 amI’ve always believed there was an insidious plot to take down Trump, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that its ringleader sits in the Oval Office.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:58 amit’s great for identifying who is opposed to immigration for David Duke reasons and who is opposed for more rational reasons though
Dustin (c56600) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:02 amWhat do you see?
A bright, shiny object.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:03 amHe thinks he’s doing a great job, especially in the daily briefing, because the ratings are good. It’s more like “if it bleeds it leads”, or everyone watches a car crash.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:04 am“I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!”
So, people who are here on temporary visas while they apply for permanent status, such as new spouses and their children, are SoL?
What about bona fide refugees?
Can you buy your way in, like with a $10 million investment in industry? Many countries allow that as an exception.
Cue court in
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:04 amHawaiiSan FranciscoManhattan or D.C.Have I mentioned that I view Trump as an opportunity
costlost recently? Admittedly he has not acted (directly) against my interests or most of my beliefs, as Hillary would have, and the judges from the Federalist Society are good, but he is singularly ineffective and his character and general bigotry are a stain on the GOP and all it has tried to do for decades.I thought he election of 2016 was the worst choice I would ever see, but the election of 2020 looks like it will fail to reach that low bar.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:10 amInsert “incompetence” in that last somewhere.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:11 amDoes this mean he is going to have to hire Americans to work at his properties? Or does he get an exception for himself.
Nic (896fdf) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:12 amIt’s more like “if it bleeds it leads”, or everyone watches a car crash.
There are two types that watch those pressers. His devoted followers, the ones that Gene Wilder called “the salt of the earth”, and those that miss the Three Stooges and are using this as a replacement.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:14 amOr does he get an exception for himself.
H-1B isn’t immigration. They’re “temporary workers” here to depress wages for Americans in the same fields. They’re only allowed in fields were businesses cannot hire Americans for the wages they are prepared to pay. So, it’s different.
TL;DR: Not the same, it’s complicated.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:17 am“Courageous” or “pathetic” is an awesome example of the current state of political commentary.
If you support using drones to monitor citizens in their backyards or roping off garden sections at Lowe’s but oppose this move you’re part of the problem.
Also curious that the “courageous” take refers to jobs and borders but omits the president’s leading with the ‘invisible enemy’.
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:17 am_
Add a sardonic tag to the last if you think it needs it.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:18 amHey, about that anecdotal evidence of hydroxychloroquine being awesome coming from the White House…
Yes, it’s preliminary, but it’s more than anecdotal.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:19 amHarkin has a good point. This isn’t Trump being stupid, this is Trump thinking we’re stupid and that we’ll accept nearly anything if it’s supposed to fight Covid-19.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:20 amHey, about that anecdotal evidence of hydroxychloroquine being awesome coming from the White House…
To be absolutely fair here, it was the Chinese that recommended it and said that they’d gotten results. There have been other, equally non-rigorous, studies that have shown a benefit. The problem with all of these is that there are no controls (and ethics suggests there cannot be controls), so the patient selection can bias the results markedly.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:24 amOh yeah, on this Executive Order…it’s not a thing. It’s actually just a tweet. In the future maybe he’ll follow through and actually do the minimal work of signing the thing that someone else wrote, but he’s achieved his outcome, people stopped complaining for a few minutes about Covid response and talking about this. You can only be 100% bought into any 100% outrageous situation, in series, not simultaneously, we have an outrage deficit.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:25 amI see a President whose polling tells him that his base isn’t happy, so now he is talking about the subject that initially won their support.
DRJ (15874d) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:26 amBy the way, if this tweet is seen as an overreach, that might mean that some gubernatorial overreaching might be dialed back.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:27 amhe’s achieved his outcome, people stopped complaining for a few minutes about Covid response and talking about this.
How does it help him to divert attention from one
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:30 am[censored]screw-up by[censored]screwing up something else?And the French guy, who the “Stanford researcher” promoted on Tucker Carlson. The guy ended up not having any affiliation with Stanford, the other people on the “research” at Stanford also didn’t know what the heck he was going on about. The institute in France pulled the research, and the Chinese researchers also corrected.
This was never something a smart, or careful, person would have promoted, and not just the first time, doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, has apparently now cost some number of people their lives. Would the VA have been convinced to use it if not from the message from the podium in the White House?
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:32 amI see a President whose polling tells him that his base isn’t happy
That’s also why he came out with that tweet supporting the protesters, who were entirely of his base. They understand when the people who won’t let Trump be Trump walk it back later. But they know he’ll fire them soon.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:34 amWell, it doesn’t make sense to me, but it seems to make sense to him, it’s SOP.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:34 amThere are a few details, or hint, in a Wall Street Journal story. There are exceptions.
It doesn’t make any sense, except for this: He does this because nobody will agree, but at the same time nobody will argue strenuously against it. He likes to be in that kind of position. Trump maybe actually believes he is in danger of losing his base of fervent supporters. And meanwhile ignores all the other voters. He’s listening to his political aides, who may be lying to him,
The reason he gives is not in the least medical. He can’t even justify it that way. He justifies it by talking vaguely about jobs. Yes, he starts off with a reference to “an attack from the Invisible Enemy”— but that is just to ward off the Democrats. It makes no sense because he already shut down cross border travel as much as he wanted to (and I suspect this may stop changes in status) He says “as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens.” He needs that excuse.
Here is the Wall Street Journal story:
Excerpts:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-temporarily-halt-immigration-into-the-u-s-amid-coronavirus-crisis-11587436960
And they actually deported some people who tested positive to Guatemala, although now they stopped
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:34 amThis was never something a smart, or careful, person would have promoted
But Trump is smarter than all of those pointy-headed nerds. He just naturally understands things that take their little minds decades to learn.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:45 amhttps://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/04/21/ny-times-global-coronavirus-death-toll-28000-higher-reported/
Not endorsing this…just throwing it out there…
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:47 amAnd they actually deported some people who tested positive to Guatemala, although now they stopped
Jeebus. How? I bet they didn’t tell Guatemala why they were being deported. I wonder if others were on the same flight/bus/boat/cattle-car.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:49 am#37: Probably right. Many locales are juking the stats by only reporting tested cases as Covid, and not testing post-mortem.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:50 am7. RipMurdock (d2a2a8) — 4/21/2020 @ 9:09 am
He did it with the ban on immigration from several countries.
Now he is using the coronavirus excuse. It’s just an excuse, for legal and argumentative reasons. Some of t almost certainly cannot be played as an anti-coronavirus measure.
And he quietly left some exceptions.
Trump’s doing this because he’s daring anyone in politics to take issue with it. As slon as he gets some open criticism on the substance, he will modify it or retract.
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:51 am> I’ve always believed there was an insidious plot to take down Trump, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that its ringleader sits in the Oval Office
This is Trump being Trump.
This is what those of us on the never-Trump train saw from the beginning and TRIED to tell everyone.
aphrael (7962af) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:53 amWhat is the stupidest argument you’ve heard so far about Covid-19? For me, it’s this:
“There haven’t been nearly as many deaths as we were told, so all of this shelter-in-place stuff has been on false pretenses.”
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:53 amI don’t know why we have so many people in prison, the crime rate has been going down for thirty years.
nk (1d9030) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:55 amThis is what those of us on the never-Trump train saw from the beginning and TRIED to tell everyone.
The people who voted for him saw it too, but he still looked better than the corrupt ward-healing trough-filler.
I was never #never-Trump, just strongly #not-Trump. Didn’t vote for him or her. After he was elected I hoped that it would be better than expected, and it was. Just not better enough. I am upset at the way the GOP has rolled over though. I still hope that this crisis will lead to his being replaced on the ticket, one way or another.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:56 am> I am upset at the way the GOP has rolled over though.
Congress seems to be structured in a way that incentivizes congresspeople to be cowards, motivated by fear of not being re-elected. This is a bipartisan affliction.
aphrael (7962af) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:08 am1. He probably won’t follow through.
2. If he does there’s a good chance his team hasn’t worked through any of these details.
At this point I think some of the execution failure is an intentional strategy to get more media attention. But I can’t say for sure that he screwed up the EU travel ban on purpose. It’s just a suspicion. Once his ‘loyalists’ start cashing in and writing their books we’ll know for sure.
Time123 (797615) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:09 amThat LA County/USC virus testing study is shaking things up:
“ After adjusting for statistical margin of error, that means anywhere from 221,000 to 442,000 local adults in Los Angeles have been infected by the coronavirus. That number is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed COVID-19 cases in LA at the time the study was conducted earlier this month…..
……. “We haven’t known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited,” adds lead investigator Neeraj Sood, professor of public policy at the USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at the USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. “The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies.” ”
https://www.studyfinds.org/study-rate-of-coronavirus-infections-in-la-up-to-55-times-higher-than-confirmed-cases/
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:26 am_
25.
They might have given it more often to sicker people, more as a last resort, when the anecdotal and logical evidence indicates it is more of a prophylactic (and a rather weak one)
There are three theories as to how it is supposed to work:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/states-try-reducing-malaria-drug-hoarding-amid-unproven-coronavirus-benefit-11586095200
See diagram:
(The third one is the on;y one that would have it be useful in a severe infection, but even if it is true, I doubt that’s the main effect.)
Kaletra is better.
Antibodies against coronavirus are best but that is all slowed down. And of course, alternatives to ventilators, and watching out for other sorts of trouble.
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:29 am“ Harkin has a good point. This isn’t Trump being stupid, this is Trump thinking we’re stupid and that we’ll accept nearly anything if it’s supposed to fight Covid-19”
I’ve never subscribed to the ‘5-D Chess’ theory but if he’s banking on public stupidity regarding virus policy he’s woefully late to the party.
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:29 am_
48 – Sammy
Nice context.
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:31 am* ACE2 receptors. There are also variants of ACE2 in different people, and maybe the virus infects one kind much more easily than others. Women may sometimes have two kinds, one because of each X chromosome, and that’s been offered as a reason why women are a little less likely to become seriously ill.
27. Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 10:24 am
They said they tried this in the first place because they noticed that theyhad no, or very few patients who had both lupus and the coronavirus. (and that’s how many new medical treatments get discovered, by the way) Maybe it was both lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
The only thing is: I’m not sure now whether it was chrloroquine or hydroxychloroquine the lupus or other patients were getting and if it makes a difference. Hydroxychloroquine is safer but maybe it’s less effective, maybe much less.
First, since people are given it at different stages of the disease, you could use that as a control, provided you have some way of measuring at what stage of the disease they are at.
But there’s an easy easy way to check this out, if they would not let HIPAA oor some “ethics” abot medical research stand in their way.
There are nursing homes where half the population came down with Covid19, some more serious than others.
Take a bunch of them, so you have a big statistical sample, examine their Medicare or Medicaid records, and see if there is a difference in the death rate between those prescribed before March chrloroquine or hydroxychloroquine and those who were not.
Voila! There’s your control group, if Reason #1 or #2 is right.
Someone would really have to break through bureaucratic barriers to do that.
Sammy Finkelman (0cf810) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:42 amThis is exactly what the VA did, and their results are what they’re publishing. It’s better than in-vitro, and it’s better than anecdotal, it’s not as good as a large control group, but it is what it is, and it’s backed up by the global observations that HCQ, CQ, by itself or in combination, at best is useless as a CV-19 treatment, and at worst, actually causes harm. And, none of that even takes into consideration what level of effort was expended on it based on the incredibly questionable origins of the rumor, because it was no more than that. It came from the fever swamps of Alex Jones, RedState, OANN, and made it into Trump’s TeeVee external brain on the Fox opinion shows.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 11:51 amI’ll take “Orange Herpes Sores on America’s Johnson” for 400, Alex.
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 12:15 pmI believe several efforts like this keep showing that the drug either doesn’t work or barely makes a difference… or makes things worse. And no matter how many times this is shown, some clickbait article saying it has a perfect cure rate will get more attention.
Look. It doesn’t work. A lot of very ambitious and very desperate researchers, nurses, doctors are trying anything. Necessity is the soul of invention. It doesn’t work. We need a vaccine and we need tests.
Dustin (c56600) — 4/21/2020 @ 12:22 pmData breach may have exposed personal information of thousands of SBA emergency loan applicants
The personal identifiable information of thousands of small businesses applying for federal disaster loans was potentially exposed to other applicants, marking the latest glitch in the rollout of government programs designed to help companies crippled by the coronavirus pandemic.
Nearly 8,000 applicants to the Economic Injury Disaster Loan program (EIDL) — a long-standing program run by the Small Business Administration (SBA) — may have been affected. In a statement, the SBA said that it “immediately disabled the impacted portion of the website, addressed the issue, and relaunched the application portal.”
The emergency relief program typically issues loans to small businesses recovering from tornadoes and wildfires. But last month, the SBA expanded the program to include those hit by the coronavirus’s unprecedented economic fallout. EIDL funds are separate from the Paycheck Protection Program, which the White House and congressional leaders have been scrambling to replenish after its first round of funding ran out.
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The SBA discovered March 25 that personal information might have been inadvertently disclosed, according to a letter sent by the SBA and shared with The Washington Post by Covid Loan Tracker, a community of 17,000 small-business owners tracing information on government loans. Personal information may have included names, social security numbers, addresses, birth dates, emails, phone numbers, citizenship status and insurance information, among other details. The letter, which was dated April 13, said there were no signs that the information had been misused.
The SBA did not immediately answer questions about how long the breach had lasted or how it had been discovered. Businesses that may have been affected were notified by the SBA and offered one free year of credit monitoring.
RipMurdock (d2a2a8) — 4/21/2020 @ 12:53 pm…….
Trump (the Company) Asks Trump (the Administration) for Hotel Relief
President Trump’s signature hotel in the nation’s capital wants a break on the terms of its lease. The landlord determining the fate of the request is Mr. Trump’s own administration.
Trump International Hotel, just a few blocks from the White House, had been a favored gathering place for lobbyists, foreign dignitaries and others hoping to score points with the president. But like most hotels, it is now nearly empty and looking to cut costs because of the coronavirus pandemic.
In recent weeks, the president’s family business has inquired about changing its lease payments, according to people familiar with the matter, which the federal government has reported amount to nearly $268,000 per month.
The Trump Organization owns and operates the luxury hotel, but it is in a federally owned building on Pennsylvania Avenue. As part of its deal to open the 263-room hotel, the company signed a 60-year lease in 2013 that requires the monthly payments to the General Services Administration.
The Trump Organization is current on its rent, according to Eric Trump, the president’s son. But he confirmed that the company had opened a conversation about possible changes to the terms of the lease, which could include adjustments to future monthly payments.
The younger Mr. Trump said the company was asking the G.S.A. for any relief that it might be granting other federal tenants. The president still owns the company, but his eldest sons run the day-to-day operations.
“Just treat us the same,” Eric Trump said in a statement on Tuesday. “Whatever that may be is fine.”
The G.S.A. did not immediately respond to a request for comment, including about whether its other tenants had made similar inquiries. The White House also did not respond to a request for comment.
Companies across the country have pleaded for relief from lenders and landlords, but the Trump Organization’s submission presents a particular predicament.
If it denies the request, the agency risks running afoul of the president, who appoints its leader; but if it accommodates the Trumps, the agency is likely to draw fire from critics.
RipMurdock (d2a2a8) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:02 pm…….
“What do you see?”
A district court judge somewhere in the 9th Circuit (CA or HI, take your pick) ruling the EO illegal and issuing a nationwide restraining order preventing the administration using it.
Jeff Lebowski (c3c065) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:07 pmMy first thought when I heard about the immigration ban was that in addition to fluffing the segment of his base that’s racist and/or xenophobic, he is doing it to blackmail the governors and others who want to be careful on re-opening, by cynically holding would-be immigrants hostage as a bargaining chip.
“You think it’s terrible that people can’t come here to join their families, escape oppression, get an education or better their lives? I’ll consider lifting the ban when all 50 governors certify in writing what an excellent job I’ve done, and completely re-open their states.”
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:13 pmData breach may have exposed personal information of thousands of SBA emergency loan applicants
Well, super. Just what those distressed businesses and their owners need right now.
Great job, T-rumpie…
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:15 pmIf it denies the request, the agency risks running afoul of the president, who appoints its leader; but if it accommodates the Trumps, the agency is likely to draw fire from critics.
Another conflict of interest by the Thug in the Oval Office.
He should set an example and suck it up. Not that he will.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:18 pmWe have been very effective at stopping illegal entry between crossing points for the last ten years or so.
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:24 pmCongress seems to be structured in a way that incentivizes congresspeople to be cowards
Incentivizes them to listen to their constituents anyway. I just with that 90% of the constituents looked past R and D.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:29 pm*wish
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:29 pmWe have been very effective at stopping illegal entry between crossing points for the last ten years or so.
And completely hopeless about removing those who got through already. And then there are the “refugees”
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:33 pmSpeaking of data……
“ The Whitmer administration announced Monday that it had awarded a contract for contact tracing in the state to Every Action VAN, an arm of the Democratic data behemoth NGP VAN. The liberal firm works with all of the major Democratic campaign committees and hundreds of labor unions across the country, according to its website, and will “help organize remote phone banking and track information and contacts” for Michigan, a state press release said.
The group is run by Stuart Trevelyan, a longtime Democratic campaign operative who worked in the Clinton White House and is currently assisting presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s campaign with voter outreach and fundraising, according to Federal Election Commission reports. Whitmer’s own gubernatorial campaign paid NGP VAN nearly $5,000 in 2019, according to state campaign finance records. Every Action is a branch of the firm that works with nonprofit organizations.
States across the country have begun contact tracing operations in the hope that wide-scale interviews will unlock crucial information and prevent additional infections. But Whitmer appears to be the first governor to employ a group that typically focuses on politics to help with the task. In Massachusetts, Republican governor Charlie Baker has partnered with the health care nonprofit Partners in Health to conduct contract tracing and track diseases across the globe.
Every Action’s other clients include the radical anti-Israel group Jewish Voice for Peace, Planned Parenthood, and the left-wing National Women’s Law Center. Whitmer’s office did not respond to a request for comment, and the state has not disclosed the dollar amount of the contract awarded to the firm.”
https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/michigan-governor-whitmer-awards-coronavirus-contract-to-dem-consulting-firm/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:37 pm_
Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
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I am encouraged that Democrats have finally agreed to reopen the Paycheck Protection Program and abandon a number of their unrelated demands. My full statement on Congress’s new bipartisan agreement to provide additional small-business support, more funding for testing, and more:
https://twitter.com/senatemajldr/status/1252676152864526337?s=20
harkin (c72ccb) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:40 pm_
So I guess we’ll see during the CV briefing, because sure, Invisible Enemy, but now he’s going to back off the EO he outlined and will just temporarily suspend green card issuance.
It’s tangentially related I guess, but not what he said, but holding him to being within artillery range is probably as good as it gets. I still don’t know why it’s important right now, since getting here is nearly impossible unless your sneaking in under/over/through/around, “the wall”. Which this doesn’t address in any way.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:44 pmThis is rich, it wasn’t just the Democrats, the White House and Dems were actually pretty unified, this is about as fast as it could possibly get done. Plus, maybe the SBA could take this time to figure out how to do this better with the banks.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:47 pmThe FreeBeacon report is (surprise!) a lie to keep the partisan grievance narrative boiling.
The state contracted to NGP Van for software. The people doing the contract tracing work for the state, as volunteers under the supervision and training of state HHS personnel.
Here’s the press release with the truth:
Notice the FreeBeacon report deceptively omits the words “provide software to”, and makes it sound like the company itself will actually be the ones in charge, and contacting people.
Recruiting volunteers to do contact tracing on a massive scale seems like a smart idea.
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 2:08 pmDeath-cult sighting in Texas:
‘More important things than living,’ Texas’ Dan Patrick says in coronavirus interview
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 2:14 pmThis is rich, it wasn’t just the Democrats, the White House and Dems were actually pretty unified, this is about as fast as it could possibly get done. Plus, maybe the SBA could take this time to figure out how to do this better with the banks.
According to CNBC, that was the main reason for the delay. They were trying to rewrite the rules so actual small businesses could get the money.
But I still don’t see why the GOP didn’t think it necessary to help hospitals. There’s reasons not to help the state and local governments, but those don’t apply to hospitals.
Kishnevi (ab2b70) — 4/21/2020 @ 2:25 pmOff-topic: How cool is this?
Gronk traded to Tampa, coming out of retirement to play with Brady.
I <3 Gronk.
Dave (1bb933) — 4/21/2020 @ 2:31 pmOnce his ‘loyalists’ start cashing in and writing their books we’ll know for sure
Just different lies told on a different day, for money.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:09 pmData breach may have exposed personal information of thousands of SBA emergency loan applicants
That’s bad, but nothing tops the OPM breach that gave the Chinese all the (extremely detailed) secret and top-secret security clearance applications for the DoD. And Obama didn’t even fire the token-hire boss of that until much later.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:14 pmIn Massachusetts, Republican governor Charlie Baker has partnered with the health care nonprofit Partners in Health to conduct contract tracing and track diseases across the globe.
Just imagine if he had hired the Pinkerton Agency or maybe Blackwater.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:19 pmThe Paycheck Protection Program is a scheme by which they get you to borrow money to pay your employees not to work, rather than furloughing them and letting UI and Uncle Sugar give them the same or more.
They tell you that the loans will be forgiven, but the hoops that need jumping through aren’t made clear. Such that the program only goes on so long, but if you furlough your workers after it stops, those loans are NOT forgiven.
Otherwise known as “The first one is free.”
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:23 pmAt his coronovirus press briefing (he didn’t devote too much attention to it) Trump said his immigration pause was on;y fr 60 days, applied only to people getting green cards, and ave on;y economic reasons for it (Americans should not get replaced by people from outside the country)
He added the vile thought that it conserved medical resources.
He said it would be re-evaluated after 60 days (in the light of economic conditions he seemed to say)
Sammy Finkelman (83cfe1) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:31 pmCDC director warns second wave of coronavirus is likely to be even more devastating
Even as states move ahead with plans to reopen their economies, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Tuesday that a second wave of the novel coronavirus will be far more dire because it is likely to coincide with the start of flu season.
“There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” CDC Director Robert Redfield said in an interview with The Washington Post. “And when I’ve said this to others, they kind of put their head back, they don’t understand what I mean.”
“We’re going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time,” he said.
Having two simultaneous respiratory outbreaks would put unimaginable strain on the health-care system, he said. The first wave of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, has already killed more than 42,000 people across the country. It has overwhelmed hospitals and revealed gaping shortages in test kits, ventilators and protective equipment for health-care workers.
In a wide-ranging interview, Redfield said federal and state officials need to use the coming months to prepare for what lies ahead. As stay-at-home orders are lifted, officials need to stress the continued importance of social distancing, he said. They also need to massively scale up their ability to identify the infected through testing and find everyone they interact with through contact tracing. Doing so prevents new cases from becoming larger outbreaks.
Asked about the appropriateness of protests against stay-at-home orders and calls on states to be “liberated” from restrictions, Redfield said: “It’s not helpful.”
RipMurdock (e81e20) — 4/21/2020 @ 3:33 pm………
> >Data breach may have exposed personal information of thousands of SBA emergency loan applicants
> Well, super. Just what those distressed businesses and their owners need right now.
it’s a well known maxim that you can have two of these three but not all three: something done with super high quality, something done quickly, something done cheaply.
so you implement this system to hand out large quantities of money with basically no lead time on implementation under super high pressure, and you aren’t paying the fortune it would take to have everyone do a small piece and make sure that it’s completely robust, so you get stuff that doesn’t work as well as anyone would like.
yeah, it *sucks*. but it’s not fair to blame this on trump or anyone else — almost every software organization on the planet would have fucked this up under similar circumstances.
aphrael (7962af) — 4/21/2020 @ 4:57 pm68. Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 4/21/2020 @ 1:47 pm
Treasury Secretary Mnuchin noted that alot of the loans went through smaller banks (but he wants big banks too.
People applying to smaller banks had a better chance of getting the loan.
This tells one woman;’s story (and er story doesn’t have that much to do with being black)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/business/minority-business-coronavirus-loans.html
When I read that, I thought..,probably a credit union, but why does the article use that term?
Sammy Finkelman (83cfe1) — 4/21/2020 @ 5:20 pmWatched Senator Cruz talk about this, sounds like he’s fully supportive of the 60 day moratorium.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/21/2020 @ 7:04 pmDave, klink, Rip and others… I don’t know if you know this, but if your state opens before you think it should, you still have the option to stay home.
Sleep well, go easy on the pillows…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/21/2020 @ 7:07 pm@82 Col. Haiku-
RipMurdock (e81e20) — 4/21/2020 @ 7:28 pmI don’t have a choice. I’m working right now, because I have the same employer as Patterico. Not only are we considered “essential”, we can be shanghaied by the County to serve as “Disaster Service Workers” to do whatever the County deems necessary.
if your state opens before you think it should, you still have the option to stay home.
Even if they open when I think they should, I will wait to see how it pans out before I attend a rave.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 4/21/2020 @ 7:32 pmSenate committee unanimously endorses spy agencies’ finding that Russia interfered in 2016 presidential race in bid to help Trump
The Senate Intelligence Committee has unanimously endorsed the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia conducted a sweeping and unprecedented campaign to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
The heavily-redacted report, based on a three-year investigation, builds on a committee finding nearly two years ago that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment (ICA) on Russia was sound. The spy agencies also found that Russia sought to shake faith in American democracy, denigrate then-candidate Hillary Clinton and boost her rival Donald Trump.
The report, while not unexpected, is nonetheless a milestone — the first extensive bipartisan congressional affirmation of the intelligence agencies’ conclusion, which continues to be at odds with President Trump’s oft-stated doubts about Russia’s role in the 2016 race.
“The committee found no reason to dispute the intelligence community’s conclusions,” Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said in a statement.
“The ICA summarizing intelligence concerning the 2016 election represented the kind of unbiased and professional work we expect and require” from the agencies, Vice-Chairman Mark R. Warner (D-Va.) said. “The ICA correctly found the Russians interfered in our 2016 election to hurt Secretary Clinton and help the candidacy of Donald Trump. Our review of the highly classified ICA and underlying intelligence found that this and other conclusions were well-supported.”
RipMurdock (e81e20) — 4/21/2020 @ 7:36 pm……
85. But Russia spread disinformation about Trump to Christopher Steele!
The thing is, that was to help Trump (or more precisely, Russia)
The original material in the Steele dossier, I mean, not what was added by Glenn Simpson and whoever at Fusion GPS.
They never thought Steele was working for the Democrats.
They wanted to give Steele answers as to why Putin was supporting Trump, as he obviously was.
Answers that were lies, (compromat or that Trump had longstanding big ties with Russia) so he wouldn’t suspect the truth (something like Putin hoped to penetrate a future U.S. government with agents of influence and spies, like Alger Hiss was. In this case, Mike Flynn and other possibilities.)
And they didn’t want to not answer him, so that MI6 or British intelligence analysts (whom they thought this would get back to) would still have confidence in their picture of the talkative Russian government sources that Steele had used ten years before. And in their false information.
They thought that whatever they told Christopher Steele would stay in the UK, so it didn’t conflict with helping Trump get elected.
As a bonus, if Trump were elected, it might create suspicion between the UK and the USA.
Now isn’t that very simple?
But it seems to be too hard for most people to imagine.
Sammy Finkelman (83cfe1) — 4/22/2020 @ 4:34 amAnd they actually deported some people who tested positive to Guatemala, although now they stopped
I didn’t mean to say they deported them > because they tested positive. I mean they didn’t do anything different. In any other circumstance, you wouldn”t let anyone with Cvvid-19 board a plane.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/75-migrants-deported-guatemala-single-flight-tested-positive/story?id=70156471
Anyway, there’s agree ment that some positive cases were included and there was no screening.
Mexico claims they got 14, Haiti that they got three.
In a totally different case of dumping infected people, New York State is insisting that people sent from a nursing home to a hospital, must be readmitted to the nursing home even if they test positive (and the nrrsing homes are expected to know how to take precautions.)
Sammy Finkelman (83cfe1) — 4/22/2020 @ 9:33 am