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8/22/2016

Privileged White Woman Who Shamefully Blames Black Man For Her Bad Decisions

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:50 am



[guest post by Dana]

Last week, it was revealed that during an interview with the F.B.I. about her email practices, Hillary Clinton blamed then-Secretary of State Colin Powell for advising her to use a personal email.

In a statement released by his staff, Powell rejected the assertion:

General Powell has no recollection of the dinner conversation. He did write former Secretary Clinton an email memo describing his use of his personal AOL email account for unclassified messages and how it vastly improved communications within the State Department. At the time there was no equivalent system within the Department. He used a secure State computer on his desk to manage classified information. The General no longer has the email he sent to former Secretary Clinton. It may exist in State or FBI files.

This weekend, Powell said enough is enough::

“Her people have been trying to pin it on me,” Powell, 79, told PEOPLE Saturday night at the Apollo in the Hamptons 2016 Night of Legends fête in East Hampton, New York.

“The truth is, she was using [the private email server] for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did,” Powell added.

Why does the former diplomat believe this to be the case?

“Why do you think?”

Who knows, maybe when Clinton was taking sniper fire in Bosnia, she got clipped in the head. That might explain her endless lies, obfuscations, and decision to blame Colin Powell.

–Dana

61 Responses to “Privileged White Woman Who Shamefully Blames Black Man For Her Bad Decisions”

  1. This woman would deny reality even when it bluntly slapped her on the wrists with silver bracelets.

    Dana (995455)

  2. it’s very hard to take Colin Powell at his word

    he’s got no more integrity than stinkypig

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  3. As I say conason spun her that story, for reasons I’ve outlined before.

    narciso (732bc0)

  4. This millionaire white woman of privilege is trying to pin her crimes on an elderly retired black man.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  5. The more interesting story, re Jeff dunetz is her pledge is rubbish.

    narciso (732bc0)

  6. Hillary Clinton or Tim Kaine will be sworn in as President in January. But we will have to wait until then to know who it is.

    nk (dbc370)

  7. nk,

    When inauguration day comes along, there will be a lot of swearing going on, that’s for sure! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  8. Powell slept with dogs and now has woken up with flees.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  9. This means she did lie to the FBI. It would be very hard to prosecute – to prove that such a conversation with Colin Powell, where he volunteered something about his e-mail, did not take place, but if she told this lie, she may have told other, more provable, lies.

    The solicited e-mail from Colin Powell, with a description of what he did, did take place. Hillary Clinton was already planning to cover her tracks, long before anybody was around to raise an objection.

    This is not the first time the Clintons have told a fake story. The documents that Sandy Berger was caught stealing from the National Archives (after people theer were already suspicious) was not something they did wrong, but soemthing that contradicted a fairy tale they invented. Bill Clinton and Sandy Burglar planned to get the 9/11 commission to say that he was responsible for some alert taht caused the Millenium bomber to be detected at the Canadian border towards of wnd of 1999.

    A copy, of the Millenium After Action Report, which did contain any mention of any such thing, made for and destined for the 9/11 Commission was destroyed by Sandy Berger. In that case, he was removing evidence that something did NOT happen, but he could have removed other things before, not to mention what might have been removed before he left the White House, like mention of the offer by Sudan to turn over Osama bin Laden, which Bill Clinton explained away by saying that there was no indictment yet, before he denied that it ever happened and said he made a mistake because of soemthing he read in a newspaper.

    Copied from other thread:

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  10. This is the New York Times story:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/us/politics/hillary-clinton-told-fbi-colin-powell-advised-her-to-use-private-email.html

    The headline in the printed paper (running across the middle of page A11) is:

    Clinton Told Investigators Powell Advised Her to Use Private Email, as He Did

    ————
    An account included
    in notes the F.B.I.
    gave to Congress
    ——————–

    It seems like it was actually first reported online on Thursday, but it was not printed Friday, as would usually happen with online stories that get printed.

    These FBI notes were given to Congress in the strictest confidence. If someone leaked to the New York Times, they violated an agreement, Congressional rules or ethics, and probably the law.

    The New York Times, however, is sometimes the recipient of leaks that nobody else gets. This is one reason they don’t like grand jury subpoenas. Of course this should not have been given to members of Congress under these extremely retrictive rules where nobody was even supposed to say what they learned there.

    If this is true, that she told thsi to the FBI, they were quite right to leak it. If the Democrats gain control of the House of Represenatives, they’ll investigate the leak and try to punish the leakers, unless that would cause more trouble for Hillary.

    I did not expect Hillary Clinton to do something like this. It was not necessary for her to say this. It’s icing on the cake.

    And it was not something she had previously said in public, so she didn’t have to confirm it, although apparently she was already prepared to have this story appear in a book. But the FBI didn’t have the book yet, now did they?

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  11. nk (dbc370) — 8/22/2016 @ 7:05 am

    6.Hillary Clinton or Tim Kaine will be sworn in as President in January. But we will have to wait until then to know who it is.

    You mean a pre-indictment plea bargain might be announced the day before by U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara?

    I don’t think actually Hillary will do that, because it ultimately didn’t save Alan Hevesi from going to jail.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  12. No sammeh he destroyed evidence about how aq operatives had been handled prior to September 11th, Al midhar and al hamzi had come in the previous year, yet the gorelick wall likely proscribed notifying the bureau,

    I actually don’t buy that story, I think general intelligence, perhaps Turkish or more likely one of his deputies told them take no action on these two.

    narciso (732bc0)

  13. Sammy,

    I believe NK was addressing the possibility Mephistopheles might collect on his deal with her between the election and the inauguration. Sort of a ‘keep hope alive’ comment wrt her lack of a credible opponent.

    I’m curious as to how long her organ grinders plan to keep her in bubble wrap. There’s no real reason to wheel her out at the moment but they’re going to have prop her up in front of a camera sooner or later.

    Rick Ballard (ce29ad)

  14. Spectre must have working capital, so she ventures out of carfax baby eventually,

    narciso (732bc0)

  15. Regardless of what former Secretary Powell told Mrs Clinton, he had been out of office for four long years, and procedures change. The real question is: how did the State Department allow this to happen?

    When Mrs Clinton went to the trouble to set up her personal e-mail account, there had to have been secretaries and security people and department lawyers who knew about this, and raised red flags. NSA and CIA both had to know her e-mail address, as did Defense and the White House, and nobody said anything?

    From Wikipedia:

    In November 2010, WikiLeaks collaborated with major global media organisations to release U.S. State Department diplomatic “cables” in redacted format. On 1 September 2011, it became public that an encrypted version of WikiLeaks’ huge archive of unredacted U.S. State Department cables had been available via BitTorrent for months and that the decryption key (similar to a password) was available to those who knew where to find it. WikiLeaks blamed the breach on its former publication partner, the UK newspaper The Guardian, and that newspaper’s journalist David Leigh, who revealed the key in a book published in February 2011.

    That stuff happened while Mrs Clinton was still Secretary of State. If the government had been lax about cyber security prior to that, it wasn’t anymore, and still Mrs Clinton used the private server. We are being asked to believe that no one concerned with cyber security communicated anything saying that Mrs Clinton’s private server was a serious potential security problem.

    The incredulous Dana (f6a568)

  16. what I was referring, remember she had to give up her donor lists as condition of surrender,
    aceepting the secretary of state positiom,

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/08/21/clinton-foundation-made-no-foreign-cash-pledge-hillary-chosen-secretary-state/

    narciso (732bc0)

  17. Unless all you peeps plan to vote against Hillary, there’s little point to all the complaining.

    Once Hillary takes office, the balance of the Supremes threatens to tilt irrevocably left,and conservatism is taking its last gasps, what comfort it will be for the Pattericans to know they stuck to their values and principles by not voting for the abominable Donald.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  18. Like this fellow here,

    Turki’s chief of staff is Ahmed Badeeb, and Badeeb had been one of bin Laden’s teachers when bin Laden was in high school. Badeeb will later say, “I loved Osama and considered him a good citizen of Saudi Arabia.” Journalist Steve Coll will later comment that while the Saudi government denies bin Laden is ever a Saudi intelligence agent, and the exact nature of his connections with the GIP remains murky, “it seems clear that bin Laden did have a substantial relationship with Saudi intelligence.” [COLL, 2004, PP. 72, 86-87] . Bin Laden meets regularly with Prince Turki and Saudi Interior Minister Prince Naif. Badeeb will later say bin Laden developed “strong relations with the Saudi intelligence and with our embassy in Pakistan.… We were happy with him. He was our man. He was doing all what we ask him.” Bin Laden also develops good relations with the ISI. [COLL, 2004, PP. 72, 87-88] Bin Laden will begin clashing with the Saudi government in the early 1990s (see August 2, 1990-March 1991).

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. it used to be you were immune from minitrue scribblings, ballard,

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/new-voter-registrations-favor-republicans-in-key-states/

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. It used to be true that you could count, narciso.

    Rick Ballard (ce29ad)

  21. Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, August 20, 2016 (Newswire.com) – Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has surged to a 5-point lead over democratic rival Hillary Clinton in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania as per the poll conducted by CEPEX Center for Excellence in Project Execution, on Friday (19th Aug 2016).

    The Boston Globe, Huffington Post, et al., are calling for the Clinton Foundation to be shutdown ahead of the hacked emails detailing ‘pay for play’ arrangements via State.

    The trend will be unbroken.

    DNF (ffe548)

  22. something is very very wrong when Ryan (swimer) tells lies and suffers VASTLY greater negative consequences than when a diseased stinkypig tells much worse ones

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  23. Mr. Trump will taste victory cause of nobody want to be bossed around by a diseased criminal stinkypig

    i don’t care who you are

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  24. Note that Powell says he used AOL because there was no department email system. Back in 2001 a lot of companies had no email internally. You could buy Amazon stock for 6 that year.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  25. The h3ll of it all.

    What can we do to stop this, speed racer?!!!

    (Clutching pearls off screen).

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  26. So criminal alien felons can be released to roam the streets but a football hooligan from Wolverhampton gets extreme vetting?

    Pinandpuller (c16705)

  27. 27. Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/22/2016 @ 10:23 am

    Note that Powell says he used AOL because there was no department email system. Back in 2001 a lot of companies had no email internally. You could buy Amazon stock for 6 that year.

    There was a department e-mail system.

    But everything on it was classified. For one thing, that meant it could only be accessed from specific terminals.

    From the Powell statement:

    He used a secure State computer on his desk to manage classified information

    But this was not quite satisfactory by 2001, because now people manymore people carried around….

    Laptops!

    By 2009, the State Department had a duplicate, unclassified system. Probably for two reasons:

    1. Access to the classified system probably became much more difficult. It is well known that any cellphone, or any computer with a microphone, can become an eavesdropping device, if properly hacked. All that is necessary is to call up the number, and not have it ring and have the phone, or Skype program, pick up the phone. The NSA prepared a few Blackberry’s so that they couldn’t be hacked, but it was getting tired of doing this. So anytimne anyone wantes to use the classified system,they had to put their cellphone and their laptops etc away, and go intoa special room.

    No longer, as in Colin Powell’s day, could they use the computer on their desk to send and receive classified infoirmation. At least, not if they also wanted to keep their cellphone and their personal computer handy. Which most people did want to do.

    2.Even before, being tied to a terminal linmited people. Also, e-mail dealing with government business, was considered an official record, and there was pressure to create the record on a government system.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  28. WThe incredulous Dana (f6a568) — 8/22/2016 @ 8:28 am

    hen Mrs Clinton went to the trouble to set up her personal e-mail account, there had to have been secretaries and security people and department lawyers who knew about this, and raised red flags.

    And Mrs. Clinton did her best to make sure that they would not continue to do so:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/26/us/politics/state-department-hillary-clinton-emails.html?_r=0

    Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private server was known by some officials beyond her closest aides, but no one in the State Department told her directly to use the department’s official email. When two officials in the record-keeping division raised concerns in 2010, their superior “instructed the staff never to speak of the secretary’s personal email system again,” the report said.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  29. it was a money laundering operation from gulf states, russian oligarchs,

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2012/07/30/atlantic-whitewashes-islamist-groups-in-abedin-controversy/

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. The incredulous Dana (f6a568) — 8/22/2016 @ 8:28 am

    If the government had been lax about cyber security prior to that, it wasn’t anymore, and still Mrs Clinton used the private server.

    Yes, the State Department got more concerned about security on its unclassified “regular” e-mail system late in 2010, and messages from hdr22@clintonemail.com to Huma Abedin’s state.gov address were being caught in a newly installed anti-phishing spam filter.

    Huma Abedin suggested to Hillary Clinton that she either get a state.gov address, or have her clintonemail.com address whitelisted. Hillary replied that she didn’t want to get a state.gov address because (she) might confuse the two – get the personal and the official mixed up, and, it goes without saying, leave behind something incriminating, or just suspicious, in a government record.

    It is not clear what happened. Apparently when they tried to whitelist her clintonemail.com address, they found out that it could not get whitelisted without all of her e-mail at that address becoming subject to Freedom of Information Act Requests and so on like that.

    As a temporary measure, the anti-phishing spam filter was disabled. Then, what probably happened was, Bryan Pagliano went into the state.gov system and whitelisted her clintonemail.com address without making an official record of it. That safely done, the spam filer could be reactivated.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  31. Good grief, it never ends with this woman:

    The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

    Justice Department lawyers said last week that the State Department would review and turn over Clinton’s work-related emails to a conservative legal group. The records are among “tens of thousands” of documents found by the FBI in its probe and turned over to the State Department, Justice Department attorney Lisa Ann Olson said Monday in court.

    The 14,900 Clinton documents are nearly 50 percent more than the roughly 30,000 emails that Clinton’s lawyers deemed work-related and returned to the department in December 2014.

    Dana (995455)

  32. that was two cycles ago, dana, now the content in those emails is the subject, and the one relaying the instructions,

    narciso (732bc0)

  33. Voting against this liar is a no-brainer.

    mg (31009b)

  34. I can’t keep up, narciso.

    Dana (995455)

  35. Colin Powell is obviously a liar.

    Hillary Clinton asserts that the FBI has said she is honest and she is moving on.

    If you want tickets to Hillary’s inaugural celebrations, be sure and send in your money now.

    The NeverTrumpers will be given special access to meet the first couple and free drink tickets.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  36. here’s an interesting bit of her evading her duties, seven years ago,

    https://twitter.com/juliangwan/status/767796123142541312

    narciso (732bc0)

  37. Rick Ballard (ce29ad) — 8/22/2016 @ 8:04 am

    There’s no real reason to wheel her out at the moment but they’re going to have prop her up in front of a camera sooner or later.

    It’s apparently noticeable that she has not yet engaged in any debate prep, ao they are saying nobody has been selected for that yet.

    She was off for the weekend. I suppose a possibility is just a strategy of staying out of the news. If she doesn’t say anything, she can’t say anything wrong. She is already notable for ignoring shouted questions.

    She could be having secret meetings not on her schedule, or preparing ads, or having secret long friendly interviews, which can just be dropped and not see the light of day if they don’t work out well. Fundraisers would be announced, wouldn’t they? Even though everything she said inside would be secret, and not recorded like Mitt (47%) Romney, or even Barack (cling to guns) Obama, they’d still be announced because the people there would want other people to know they saw Hillary.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  38. White privilege.

    G6loq (3a2647)

  39. guildenstern is a man without honor, but you already knew that, from his part in the 2008 campaign, when he laundered schmidt and wallace’s slander,

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/08/media-myopia-huma-involvement-with-islamist-mag-for-a-decade-no-biggie/#comments

    narciso (732bc0)

  40. Dana (995455) — 8/22/2016 @ 4:39 pm

    The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys,

    As you may remember, they actually got to examine her server. And it wasn’t thoroughly wiped. At least not all the servers they had used. When Comey made his announcement, they said they had recovered emails.

    This sounds like they got about half of the deleted emails, or at least fragments of them. What makes this really significant, is that’s it’s a random sample at least pf the early ones.

    When she first turned over her e-mails she claimed she had turned over anything that could possibly be work related. That actually was anything to and from a state.gov address, and the White House.

    Those were e-mails she knew there could be a copy of in the State Department archives, so if she included them all, they woukdn’t know at least some were missing.

    Now she had occasional communications from someone in the Defense Department and so on like that.

    Plus there are all the emails with her aides who were also using a clintonemail.com address. Those are the e-mails that Judicial Watch has been getting. Most don’t involve Hillary as sender or recipient. A lot of them are between Doug Band and Huma Abedin. The Clinton defense is that Doug Band was not wearing his Clinton Foundation hat, but his personal-aide-to-Bill-Clinton hat, so that way it wasn’t foundation business.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  41. @10 I wrote:

    I did not expect Hillary Clinton to do something like this. It was not necessary for her to say this. It’s icing on the cake.

    And it was not something she had previously said in public, so she didn’t have to confirm it, although apparently she was already prepared to have this story appear in a book. But the FBI didn’t have the book yet, now did they?

    The CBS Evening News had an explanation of why she said this in her interview. It doesn’t clear her from breaking the law at all. Just explains why she said it.

    It’s that the FBI asked her first about Colin Powell. She had cited this early on as a precedent, so maybe it had nothing to do with the dinner story, When she said that in March, 2015, that sounded very much like something found out after the fact.

    Anyway, she apparently trotted out her prepared lie. Now, if one of her lawyers had said that, she would not be guilty of lying to the FBI. But she said it herself.

    The FBI, of course had no way of knowing this whole conversation at the dinner was made up. They didn’t have time or maybe feel the need, to fact check her on that point.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  42. @27 Note that Powell says he used AOL because there was no department email system. Back in 2001 a lot of companies had no email internally. You could buy Amazon stock for 6 that year.

    Hell, many of our departments were still using IBM Selectric typewriters in 1999– you know, the Monica era.

    Blaming Powell is just bogus. “… and then there’s Maude…”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. 42. narciso (732bc0) — 8/22/2016 @ 6:23 pm

    the trick about a long con, is to get the stories straight,

    Actually, with the Clintons, the real trick is to have people not follow up, or to bark up the wrong tree, that is, follow the wrong trail, or at least a much less harmful one.

    Also, it helps to “refute” the accusation, which may be done either by having numerous “investigations” that turn up nothing too harmful * or by planting rebuttable assertions into the most commonly repeated allegations.

    There’s lot of things that don’t check out, but as long as the story doesn’t have legs, it’s OK with them.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  44. “by having numerous “investigations” that turn up nothing too harmful”

    * but invariably find something – substitute allegations – with the goal of giving a bit of satisfaction to people who would want to attack them and taking up the energy of people disposed to attack them or to disbelieve them.

    They almost always give them something, like Hillary investigating herself on Benghazi on the issue of not enough security in the months before the fatal assaults, and finding faults, although not hers; or the way Kenneth Starr got diverted into an investigation of Jim Guy Tucker, the Lieutenant Governor who succeeded Bill Clinton as Governor of Arkansas whom he wasn’t really close to. (he was his rival, like Al Gore on the national level.)

    And you can come up with many many examples of that, and also the rebuttable accusations.

    Sammy Finkelman (882d94)

  45. Hillary was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. She joked about her health, asking him to feel her pulse.

    The New York Times has an article about BOTH candidates releasing less detail on their health than has been common since when Ronald Reagan ran for president in 1980.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/clinton-trump-health.html?_r=0

    Hillary says she released something more than Trump.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  46. FULL TEXT of Colin Powell’s statement last Thursday:

    http://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2016/08/hillary-tries-to-put-colin-powell-under.html

    Powell’s office released a statement that calls into question Conason’s reporting, but The Times inexplicably did not include the entire statement in the article.

    However, Brad Jaffy of NBC News did tweet out Powell’s full response this morning

    Generaal Powell has no recollection of the dinner conversation. He did write former Secretary Clinton an email memo describing his use of his personal AOL email account for unclassified messages and how it vastly improved communications within the State Department. At the time there was no equivalent system within the Department. He used a secure State computer on his desk to manage classified information. The General no longer has the email he sent to former Secretary Clinton. It may exist in State or FBI files. For a complete discussion of his use of private emails he refers you to chapter 16, “Brainware” of his recent book, “It Worked For Me — In Life and Leadership,” published in 2012.

    blockquote> This would describe what the State Department system was at the time.

    I suppose the New York Times did not want to help promote a book. It’s been remaindered, or at least is available very cheap secondhand. I mean I bought it now for 75 cents plus $3.99 shipping. and you can too (I see now it’s actually slightly cheaper on amazon.com – 1 cent plus $3.99 shipping. Sorry.)

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  47. This is not Colin Powell’s first memoir, but according to the reviews, it’s the best and the most readable.

    I suppose it compares to his previous books like “In the Arena” by Richard Nixon compares to “RN” or “I, Asimov” (1994) compares to the two tomes Isaac Asimov wrote in 1979 and 1980. (the later coompilation by Asimov’s second wife is not the same)

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  48. Wikileaks calls attention to the fact that in the fall of 2011, Hillary Clinton had her State Department staff research Provigil.

    http://truepundit.com/wikileaks-bombshell-hillary-directed-state-dept-staff-to-research-parkinsons-drug/

    They’re suggesting Parkinson’s disease, but she could also have been intereted in avoiding jet lag by chemical means.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  49. From the preview, the 2012 Powell book “It Worked for Me” is very very interesting. Anyone interested in running a big organization, or interested in how they work anad don’t work, should read it.

    The chances that Donald Trump would read this are very very asmall.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  50. he should change his name to Colin Pooper i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. Another dodge on Jimmy Kimmel Monday night.

    When asked directly on camera, “Are you in good health?”– HRC, clad in ‘classic Mao red,’ went into a classic Clinton ‘look over there’ routine — ‘take my pulse’ =rimshot= ‘wacky’ stuff… open the pickle jar…

    But listen carefully. She NEVER answered the direct question ‘are you in good health’ with a straight forward “yes.” Dodge? More like ‘dodge ball.’ ‘Elementary school’ tactics, indeed.

    Compare images and speech to earlier tapes. Watch her gait. Look into her face– around the eyes, on television- particularly in natural lighting. Something is not quite right with her. It is subtle. But it is there.

    She has a history of blood clot issues and of falling down– a concussion and blurred vision (recall the dark glasses) and yes the press, CNN, MSNBC, et al., insist it is a ‘conspiracy’ to question her health. Add in all the time off, (compared to Trump) the failure to have a presser in 280 days and so forth. The pillows…Even the shoes she wears… these are hints.

    They are hiding something from us. And it is not ‘conspiratorial’ to question it.

    The 1960 Kennedy for President campaign vehemently, nay, ‘vigorously’ denied rumors and innuendo that JFK had Addison’s Disease.

    Except he did.

    This morning a Clinton spinner said on one of the cablers that even if she was ill, her running mate is more popular than she is so there’s nothing to worry about.

    As a former Texas governor one said, “Oops!”

    DCSCA (797bc0)


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