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this is a shrewd strategic move on his part I think

happyfeet (3c92a1) — 4/25/2012 @ 7:58 am

Hell, happyfeet, the adulterous asshole had the nerve to attack Romney for not being conservative enough. Who did he think he was fooling? If he were any kind of a conservative, who did not think Romney was conservative enough, he would have given his resources to Santorum.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 8:18 am

2. “If he were any kind of a conservative, who did not think Romney was conservative enough, he would have given his resources to Santorum.”

Mother B. is conservative(as well as other adjectives), the remainder are all pretenders.

Unity, where have ye fled?

gary gulrud (d88477) — 4/25/2012 @ 8:48 am

History repeats itself, Gary. The Tories exploded, the Democrats went into hiding, and the Republican Party was born. I wish the Tea Party had picked a catchier name.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 8:55 am

.

SO:

Has the GOP now been Newtered…?

Or does anyone else agree they lost their balls many, many decades ago?

😀

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Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master (8e2a3d) — 4/25/2012 @ 9:14 am

Newt was a mistake on every level. Cream rises to the top but so does scum.

And I have no stake in the GOP, and neither should you. Its survival is a matter of no interest. The same scum will rise to the top under any name. Names do not matter to scum.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 10:21 am

I’m sure the Paul Bots will think this is their chance to shine.

bskb (7be5cf) — 4/25/2012 @ 10:22 am

Newt’s once bright star began to fade rather quickly, lost it’s shine to Bill Clinton’s clever intransigence, and subsequently was dimmed in a series of unmanly devotions to a strange woman.

ropelight (ace307) — 4/25/2012 @ 11:09 am

Totally agree, bskb. But noR lauP has already had his three score and ten.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 11:30 am

Newt will still have the Virginia primary vict..Wait. Nevermind.

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/25/2012 @ 11:36 am

we can start fully directing our resources to attacking Obama.

We could have been doing this for the past four months had you all simply accepted my assertion that Romney had the nomination in the bag. But NOOOOOOO! You all just had to argue that Romney couldn’t win and that Santorum and Gingrich and who knows who had a real chance to not only win the nomination but the general election. Great job of handicapping (in both meanings) the race.

steve (369bc6) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:19 pm

nk, Tories were those who supported the Crown in the struggle for Independence.
Don’t you mean the Whigs?

AD-RtR-OS! (b8ab92) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:23 pm

nk – you have me confused, too …

I can sorta see that you can chronologically associate c) “the Republican Party was born” with b) “the Democrats went into hiding” (under their pointy white hoods) … a) “The Tories exploded” has me scratching my head as to its relevance to b) and c) … as a Mere Humble Brit, I was under the impression that the US Tories passed from relevance with the ex-colonisation of the 13 …

Alasdair (5384ac) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:37 pm

I know that probably there’ll be many who disagree but I am glad that Newt ran. I think he showed that a presidential candidate in this day and age (unlike McCain) has to be brave enough to fight back against the “elite” Washington reporters and not take their crap. He demonstrated in debates how that’s effectively done.

I think he helped give Romney more time to become a better candidate by helping scope out the Obama/Axelrod campaign’s weaknesses and vulnerabilities. Those extra months gave team R voters who are hesitant more time to get used to Romney and to accept that he really is the best one this time around to beat Obama.

Newt (and Santorum) forced the Dems and the Dem media to split their attention and resources for a longer period of time instead of immediately aiming their poison laser focus solely on Romney.

Newt is a flawed man. But he is a brilliant man who loves this country. He has a respect for its history and for what it means to be an American–and he can extemporaneously articulate those concepts as well as anyone currently in political life, IMO. I think Newt still has a role to play somewhere in government, and I hope the new POTUS sees that, and finds a spot for him which utilizes Newt’s knowledge and talents.

elissa (6dfd55) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:39 pm

Y’all should just STFU and do whatever steve says. For the good of the Party.

JD (abb177) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:43 pm

Elissa tries to make the case that Gingrich running will be beneficial in the long run. I disagree, Romney didn’t need Gingrich’s help figuring out Obama’s weaknesses, and I don’t think Obama really wasted any effort in going after either Gingrich or Santorum.

JD: as typical, you offer nothing of substance as a counter-argument, just what you think of as biting wit. Unless and until you come up with some better analysis, perhaps you should take your advice?

steve (369bc6) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:51 pm

You’re right. Whigs. Sorry. I am not smarter than a fifth grader.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 12:55 pm

Steve, my comment above was not “making a case”. It was structured (and quite clearly I thought) as merely an expression of my own personal opinion. I believe commenters are allowed to do that here. Your opinion of my opinion is really not of interest to me but feel free to opine away.

elissa (6dfd55) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:01 pm

Elissa – he knows better than you. STFU

JD (abb177) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:10 pm

Sorry, I didn’t realize you were commenting, not to for the give and take among your fellow commenters, but rather to see your words on screen.

steve (369bc6) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:12 pm

“…I didn’t realize you were commenting…”

Must have been that those “comments” were posted in the “Comments” section that was so confusing.

AD-RtR-OS! (b8ab92) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:26 pm

Well what’s there to do about it now anyway. Water under the bridge which only annoys trolls.

Mitt’s what we got, we got nowhere else to go. He’s got his advantages and he’s certainly a step up from dog tasting red diaper babies.

SarahW (33ef3a) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:32 pm

Steve, please forgive me if I have misread your intentions here. It seemed like you leaped onto the site @ 12:19 loaded for bear, filled with arrogance, spouting venom, and dripping with sarcasm. I just didn’t pick up that you were looking for honest “give and take among your fellow commenters”. My mistake. I’ll try to be more perceptive going forward.

elissa (6dfd55) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:36 pm

Substance, Elissa. Substance.

JD (abb177) — 4/25/2012 @ 1:43 pm

From Best of the Web by James taranto 4:41 PM:

Bye-Ku for Newt Gingrich

The gun-toting sheep
Of Beltway cocktail parties
Stand victorious

I don’t understand that.

Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/25/2012 @ 2:42 pm

Great comments, Elissa.

Dustin (330eed) — 4/25/2012 @ 2:49 pm

Romney’s Sensible 2012 Campaign Approach: the “BUTT” negates all that precedes it!!!! An Egyptology-based summary of my feelings of Romney’s presumptive nomination, his campaign approach, and Pharaoh Obama’s many failures. There is also a look back on McCain’s “The One” video, also featuring the iconic movie.

Mutnodjmet (c4995d) — 4/25/2012 @ 2:54 pm

Romney should just hire Gingrich to make fun of the press. It’s what he’s best at. He can also perform the “I attack Obama while Romney looks genially presidential,” thing.

luagha (72a2e7) — 4/25/2012 @ 3:22 pm

Attacking Obama?
Isn’t that what a VEEP nominee is supposed to do?

AD-RtR-OS! (b8ab92) — 4/25/2012 @ 3:46 pm

GentleBeings !

There is no need to attack our current First Occupant …

A simple factual recitation of his deeds (which made and make things worse) and his lack of deeds (which could/can make things better) allows voters to make up their own minds, while defusing any DNC attempts to claim that the First Occupant is being attacked …

Alasdair (e7cb73) — 4/25/2012 @ 3:59 pm

What we need now is a giant Monster Truck Prayer Rally with some tapioca wrasslin’ off to the side.

daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:00 pm

Mitt: If the White House will stop telling tall tales about me, I’ll stop telling the truth about them.

The Left hates it when you tell the truth about them.

AD-RtR-OS! (b8ab92) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:07 pm

Elissa: fair enough, I’ll admit there was some sarcasm on my part in my first comment.

steve (254463) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:13 pm

Mark Levin hasn’t drunken the (Romney) Kool Aid.

He says a lot of people are desperate to recreate (a different Romney)

Sure he wants Romney to win but he’s not going to park his intelligence and his reasoning skills. This is not like a ballgame where you cheer for your team’s singles and doubles.

Pretending things are not as a they are delusion – really self delusion are not helpful.

it was a good speech but not a great speech.

He can’t wait for the details.

Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:19 pm

harumph and harumph
commenting on teh comments
Teh Delaware Kid

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:25 pm

…and subsequently was dimmed in a series of unmanly devotions to a strange woman.

Very interesting that you should comment in this manner in the same sentence as you praise Bill Clinton.

Is your name really “Monica”? ‘Cause you look to have the same taste in your mouth.

Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master (8e2a3d) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:26 pm

“it was a good speech but not a great speech.”

It was a very good speech with a lot of memorable themes and he delivered it well.

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:27 pm

Romney should just hire Gingrich to make fun of the press. It’s what he’s best at. He can also perform the “I attack Obama while Romney looks genially presidential,” thing.

Funny thing is, that’s actually a pretty damned good idea: “Here, you hold them down and kick ’em, while I stand here all smiling and innocent, like.”

Not to suggest they don’t deserve rough treatment.

IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States (8e2a3d) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:32 pm

while defusing any DNC attempts to claim that the First Occupant is being attacked

That’s framing. And it’s clearly how the media is going to portray any recitation of the mere facts, which Patterico covered in an earlier but recent piece about media bias. In this old piece, too (link from the first article, but it’s a first rate example of how MSM “factual but inaccurate” reportage goes…

IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States (8e2a3d) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:36 pm

What we need now is a giant Monster Truck Prayer Rally with some tapioca wrasslin’ off to the side.

OK, but I’m warning you, Ann’ll kick Michelle’s ass from here to Nashville. Those Mormon women are not the kind of shrinking violet lace-doily types Michelle’s been dealing with so far.

Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master (8e2a3d) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:38 pm

This is good stuff!

“Everywhere I go, Americans are tired of being tired.”

“The last few years have been the best that Barack Obama can do, but it’s not the best America can do.”

“Tonight is the beginning of the end of the disappointment of the Obama years and the start of a new and better chapter that we will write together.”

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 4:41 pm

Sorry, I gave up on comments half way through.

“Newt was a mistake on every level. Cream rises to the top but so does scum.

And I have no stake in the GOP, and neither should you. Its survival is a matter of no interest. The same scum will rise to the top under any name. Names do not matter to scum.

Comment by nk — 4/25/2012 @ 10:21 am”

Newt is far too flawed to be a candidate but he did a good job articulating some points. He complained about Romney ads in Iowa that were TRUE ! Maybe exaggerated but TRUE !

Ron Paul and Romney are old friends. I suspect that Paul, unlike some of his supporters, has his son’s future in mind. This election will be the most libertarian in history, or at least since Coolidge’s. For heaven’s sake read about Coolidge. There is a reason why Reagan had his portraits hung in the White House. Harding had as many personal failings as Newt, so he will never be the model that Coolidge was.

If you want to know more about Coolidge, read my series at ChicagoBoyz or read the Amity Schlaes’ book coming out this summer.

Mike K (326cba) — 4/25/2012 @ 5:28 pm

It was worth it just to think of moon shots again.

It’s all over now and we have no reason to repine.

Sarahw (b0e533) — 4/25/2012 @ 5:39 pm

Thank you, Mike K. I have only read good things about Rand Paul.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 5:46 pm

BTW, how come you’re blogging at ChicagoBoyz. I thought you lived in some rattlesnake sanctuary in Sonora.

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 5:48 pm

Apparently James Cameron is dreaming of Weyland/Yutani, re mining asteroids, as with many
things, it didn’t matter that Newt was talking about private incentives to space development

narciso (8d0f34) — 4/25/2012 @ 5:52 pm

zombie narrative
of brokered convention dead
newt will rise again

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 6:04 pm

the adulterous asshole had the nerve to attack Romney for not being conservative enough. Who did he think he was fooling? If he were any kind of a conservative, who did not think Romney was conservative enough, he would have given his resources to Santorum.

stay classy nk.

Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 4/25/2012 @ 6:19 pm

of all the Gingrich
chins I have seen I must say
the best is the third

TimesDislaiku (e67a36) — 4/25/2012 @ 6:32 pm

speaking of z0mbies
that Debbie P00dleman Shultz
she’s a few fries short

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 6:55 pm

I don’t apologize for that, Kevin M. On marital fidelity, Gingrich makes Clinton look good. He went after evangelicals? The worshippers of St. Mary Magdalene?

nk (875f57) — 4/25/2012 @ 6:59 pm

Rick Perry for Mitt
only one choice left to him
chose right, God love ‘im!

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 7:06 pm

I would hate to be a coyote in Texas!

Colonel Haiku (4e6a37) — 4/25/2012 @ 7:09 pm

I recall that guy
Percocet Perry oh well
he had great hair too

TimesDislaiku (481d20) — 4/25/2012 @ 7:36 pm

Mittens wins the nomination and his band of progressives continue to ridicule the conservative movement of the right. Newt served a valuable purpose in that he made the media look used. I feel sorry for Mr. and Missus Space Commuter.

sickofrinos (44de53) — 4/25/2012 @ 7:57 pm

elissa,

That was indeed a great comment at #14. I heartily agree with your observations of Newt’s ultimately positive impact on the campaign.

If Mitt takes it, I have trouble seeing him wanting to put Newt on the team – that’s an awful lot to rein in and Newt’s lack of self-control might be more of hindrance than help – in spite of his broad experience.

Dana (4eca6e) — 4/25/2012 @ 8:05 pm

On marital fidelity, Gingrich makes Clinton look good. He went after evangelicals? The worshippers of St. Mary Magdalene?

And your point? Clinton got a majority of evangelicals (and Catholics for that matter) in 1992 and 1996.

Kevin M (bf8ad7) — 4/25/2012 @ 8:23 pm

Newt’s lack of self-control might be more of hindrance than help – in spite of his broad experience.

— And we all know that nobody has more “broad” experience than the old Newtster!

Icy (a2fc07) — 4/26/2012 @ 12:27 am

I don’t know what possessed him to get into the race in the first place, Icy. I saw core values in Santorum. I only saw self-aggrandizement in Gingrich. Has he ever liked anybody or anything more than himself? Those guys in Vegas who were keeping him alive, what did they expect from him?

nk (875f57) — 4/26/2012 @ 1:09 am

Gingrich IS team GOP’s Bill Clinton. Slick Willie felt your pain; Ick, Really? has big brain.

Icy (a2fc07) — 4/26/2012 @ 1:52 am

56 on 14. Second. Newt did well and Elissa can write.

gary gulrud (d88477) — 4/26/2012 @ 5:03 am

#36, Smock Puppet, 4/25/2012 @ 4:26 pm

If you think my use of clever intransigence is praise of the snollygoster from Hope, then you’re as ignorant of Homer as you are vulgar and presumptuous.

ropelight (828285) — 4/26/2012 @ 9:23 am

then you’re as ignorant of Homer as you are vulgar and presumptuous.

lost it’s shine

Dude, don’t get snarky about style and grammar when you’ve committed such a really basic grammar faux pas in your first post.

I took your comment to be a swipe at Newt’s alleged adultery by contrasting him against Bill Clinton as a rather deep form of unintentional irony…and was making a subtle observation about that, hardly a “vulgar” one.

As far as the “presumptuous” notion, see above.

Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master (8e2a3d) — 4/30/2012 @ 1:33 pm

Newt Gingrich sepnt last week campaigning in North carolina (meeting his committments) The Secret Service was dismisised on Thuursday.

He suspended his campaign today. He arranged for a lot of people to be at his announcement.

The Romney campaign has removed all the negative campaign ads against other Republicans from its website.

Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 5/2/2012 @ 3:39 pm

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