Obama Says Republicans Will Run Racist Campaign Against Him
Obama says Republicans are going to run a racist campaign against him:
Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.
“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy,” Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid.
“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”
No. But you did.
He’s right on all four of those
Young: Check
Inexperienced: Check
Funny name: Check
Black: Check
The first two are the only ones that count.
SteveG (71dc6f) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:12 pmFor being the “post-racial” candidate, he sure feels comfortable throwing the racist card around. In this case, it was the pre-emptive racist card. He is an asshat of the highest order. Phil and just another reader will be along to point out that we are racists for even noting that he said this. So, I am going to pre-emptively denounce everyone for any and all future policy disagreements with the post-post-racial candidate.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:16 pmJust by posting this, Patterico has set back their efforts, by literally weeks, of keeping fresh fruit in their home for their children. It is damn hard to keep fresh fruit on the table of your million dollar home when you still have student loans to pay off. I am so proud of America, for the first time in my adult life, I mean proud of the Americans that voted for Baracky. The rest are racists. Especially ones that dare say his middle name. And Ted Kennedy for calling him Osama.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:18 pmJD’s on a roll.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:23 pmThey’re going to try to make you afraid of me
Without Republican assistance, Obama doing a pretty good job of scaring people in all 57 states.
Perfect Sense (b6ec8c) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:29 pmYou go, JD. Thanks for adding the Osama-slip.
Yeah. About as rare as Johnson Grass in my neighbor’s yard.
EHeavenlyGads (f29174) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:33 pmDRJ is a racist for that response. Clearly roll is a racist code-word for something.
Perfect Sense is a racist for pointing out something like a minor factual misstatement that is nothing but a distraction from Baracky trying to nationalize healthcare, and surrendering in Iraq as soon as possible.
The depths of your racism knows no bounds.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:35 pmYou have got to be fucking kidding me. Whoever wrote that sentence is an amoral twit.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:36 pmI’m not afraid. My mother-in-law foresaw this and she bought us five acres with a field-stone cottage and vineyard on the side of the mountain in the background of this picture.
nk (b5fc3f) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:43 pmnk – Please don’t tell me that you will be leaving this country if the post-post-post-racial post-post-post-partisan candidate who always brings up race and then criticize people for bringing up race and how dare you insinuate he is Muslim by saying his middle name wins? 😉
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 2:46 pmIt might be my best option, JD. I’d promise to send you some wine according to my mother’s recipe but I don’t know that it will be allowed by then.
nk (b5fc3f) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:00 pmO goody goody! These threads just get better and better. yum yum…
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:08 pmBaracky just wants to let you know he is a VICTIM before he actually becomes a VICTIM.
Plus, it is unfair to talk about Mrs. Grievance.
ATTICA, ATTICA, ATTICA, ATTICA, ATTICA
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:17 pmHe said he was also set for Republicans to say “he’s got a feisty wife,” in trying to attack his wife Michelle.
Funny thing is, we don’t have to. Michelle will make that obvious herself to those not living in a cave, since everyone else knows.
BY te way, did anyone else notice Obama’s standing in front of American flags in the photo accompaning the story?
Paul (19c9b7) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:18 pmObama proves once again that is post-partisan and post-racial — a new kind of President.
capitano (03e5ec) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:39 pmNow let me warn all of you about a fellow that we all know called madmax. he is mean, he is armed and dangerous. He will try to make some of you scared of Love2008. He is going to use such words as “lovechild2008”, “Obamatron,” “Obamabot”, ” lovetad” and the like. He is going to say I am inexperienced and bigotted, he is going to say how I get thrills up my legs over “Obamessiah”
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:42 pmHe is going to paint me to be so scary. Did i mention liberal? Yes, he’s going turn me into an extreem left winging, liberal grass smoker. Just to let you all know before he shows up…beware of him! (Pass me the weed please…)
love 2008,
Whom will you vote for in November? For a Republican, during the Republican elections on Tuesday, November 4, 2008, or for a Democrat, during the Democratic elections on Wednesday, November 5, 2008?
I bet I already know the answer.
nk (b5fc3f) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:50 pm#17
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 3:55 pmI will vote for you NK, on thursday the sixth of november. I am with you all the way, right or wrong, it doesnt matter.
I think Obama’s just reaching for that elusive “Guilty White People” demographic, regardless of the party. Because if you don’t vote for Obama, it proves you are afraid of having a black man in the White House, you racist, cracker, gun toting, snake handling, homphobic, honky mofos.
He’s just moonwalking slightly to the center, as SEK pointed out last, to improve his electability. Nothing to see here. Go back to your lynchings.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:12 pmYou failed to actually deny any of those claims. Nevertheless, people will be able to dope out the facts for themselves, after reading your “anything goes/ends justify the means” rectal osculation admission.
Drumwaster (8ad883) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:14 pmlove2008 #16,
That was a funny comment and I don’t want to ruin it by getting too serious, but I think your tongue-in-cheek point is that the GOP has used scare tactics to portray Obama as dangerous.
However, doesn’t your point also apply to Obama’s preemptive attack on Republicans? Isn’t Obama using intimidation to portray all Republicans who oppose him as racists?
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:19 pmI think the truly insulting thing about this whole statement is its implication that there are actually Republicans out there who don’t already know that Obama is black.
Phil (6d9f2f) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:22 pmThanks for all the laughs, you cracker/ridgerunner corksuckers who probably make your own moonshine, have sex with farm animals
(I hear sheep feel real good) and eat turnip greens and okra with cornbread. I would try it but fear I’d end addicted to Woolite binges.
Btw, the student loans are paid for by now after those big book advances and that Michelle make-work hospital gig that tripled after they got FED money. You cretinous neocons better get used to watching that thermostat when Big Daddy O takes over the Oval office. Btw, I see there’s propaganda out that Rethuglicans have material asking whether the White House will still be called “White” after old Stepin’ Fetchit takes command. Yassuh masser, our own watermelon jake. And no more of that formerly fat pig dittohead head Rush either. At least the cabinet will represent the best of America. Jajaja. Not that McCain’s are all that great potentially, what with idiots like Dick Armitrage in the running.
madmax333 (36734b) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:28 pmMe, I’m moving to Kenya or maybe Bobby Mugabe’s paradise on earth.
I have the solution for Mr. Obama. He needs to emulate Bela, as played by the late Frank Gorshin in the old original “Star Trek” television series:
http://members.aol.com/startrekchristy/tosa77.jpg
That way, he can be racist toward himself, and begin the healing of our nation with himself.
Eric Blair (1d11ac) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:29 pmI don’t get that statement at all, Phil. Are you implying only Republicans can be uninformed? I’m sure there are Americans of all political persuasion who don’t know much about Obama and/or McCain, but so what?
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:32 pmI tried to post this a moment ago, and it didn’t work. So sorry if it double pots!
I have the solution for Mr. Obama. He needs to emulate “Bela,” as played by the late Frank Gorshin on the original “Star Trek” television series of the 1960s.
http://members.aol.com/startrekchristy/tosa77.jpg
That way, he can accuse himself of racism. Then, he can begin the healing with himself, before he moves on to healing our nation so that we become post-racial.
Eric Blair (1d11ac) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:33 pmThat should be “posts,” not “pots.”
Paging Dr. Freud!
Eric Blair (1d11ac) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:33 pmI think the truly insulting thing about this whole statement is its implication that there are actually Republicans out there who don’t already know that Obama is black.
No, Phil, the truly insulting thing is the implication that Republicans wouldn’t point out his lack of experience and poor judgment if he were white.
In addition, Obama himself keeps bringing the race issue up.
Paul (19c9b7) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:38 pmYou guys’re too much. All a yez. 🙂
DRJ is a racist for that response. Clearly roll is a racist code-word for something.
Comment by JD — 6/21/2008 @ 2:35 pm
Obama the con man: “Roll with a capital R and that’s next to Q and that’s next to P and
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:45 pmthat stands for POOL”
#16 I’m wondering if you’re not the result of Chocolate Thunder from Lovetron Darryl Dawkins and some spaced out blonde bimbo fan mating while smoking hashish.
Ok, mea culpa here. I admit that I am a racist. Obama is 1/16 black, 7/16 Arab and 8/16 White. To me that makes him a white homey boy and I won’t vote for no honkie mofo for prez. My first vote ever was for George Wallace and Curtis LeMay. Boy, did I hiss off the Philly blacks when I put Wallace bumper stickers and legalize homosexuality now on their cars.
madmax333 (36734b) — 6/21/2008 @ 4:49 pmSteve G – nailed it. I don’t need to add anything else.
tyree (f48b34) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:01 pmI don’t get that statement at all, Phil.
It’s just honest confusion. Regardless of whether Obama’s race will play a role in who people vote for, why in the world would the news that Obama is black (setting aside questions of what that means in light of his particular geneology) be something Republicans have to tell voters?
The biggest story of this campaign (now that Hillary is out) is that Obama is the first black presidential nominee, and will be the first black president if elected. This isn’t something Republicans need to tell anyone.
Now, the fact that he’s black is definitely going to be a subject of fear to some people, but it’s not something Republicans need to (or could) spread through rhetoric. If people are afraid of blacks, and they know Obama is black, they’re already afraid. There’s nothing Republicans affirmatively need to do to win their vote.
Phil (6d9f2f) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:01 pmThanks, Phil, but then are you truly confused about why Obama said what he did? Isn’t he suggesting that anyone who opposes him does so for racist or other deplorable reasons?
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:05 pmmadmax,
Would that have been Gen. Curtis LeMay???
Damn! That’s sexy!
EHeavenlyGads (f29174) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:10 pmHe wants to have a difficult national discussion about race. Then, they call anyone that disagrees with them racists. It is also racist to say his middle name. It is also racist to disagree with his policies. It is also racist to not vote for him. This is what being the post-racial candidate means.
He brings it up more often than Kerry mentioned he fought in Vietnam.
DRJ – Phil is being intentionally pigheaded. He is only like that on days that end in y.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:23 pmThanks, Phil, but then are you truly confused about why Obama said what he did? Isn’t he suggesting that anyone who opposes him does so for racist or other deplorable reasons?
That’s broader than I see it, but he’s clearly implying that his opponents will be saying that he’s black in order to scare people, just like they’d be saying he’s young, or inexperienced, or has a funny name to scare people.
That’s a huge oversimplification on his part of the actual role of racism in the campaign.
But he’s not literally throwing anyone under busses, either, and yet Republicans are accusing him of doing that every five minutes. So maybe his statement was symbolic of an attitude rather than a literal accusation.
Phil (6d9f2f) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:28 pmThat’s exactly what I meant, JD.
Paul (19c9b7) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:31 pmBut he’s not literally throwing anyone under busses, either, and yet Republicans are accusing him of doing that every five minutes
Phil, look up the word “metaphor.”
Paul (19c9b7) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:34 pmmax – Does this mean you are not going to put a Guilty White Person For Obama bumper sticker on your car, even if it’s only for shits and giggles.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:37 pmAt least not today. It was getting a little crowded under the back of the bus, what with granny, and that herd of people that were not technically working for him, those people that were not the same people that he knew, a church, and that guy who was/was not helping him pick a VP.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:38 pmPhil,
Setting aside my partisan hat for a moment, I don’t think it does Obama much good to portray himself as a victim of unfair tactics or beliefs. For one thing, it makes him look ineffectual and weak, and that’s not an image any candidate wants. In addition, it undermines his argument that he can bridge what divides us. But I’m not a political expert so maybe this is a theme that will work for Obama.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:40 pmJD,
You’re hot tonight. Maybe you should go buy a lottery ticket.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:42 pmObama can say with a great degree of certainty that “they” (which Phil would have us presume to be some nebulous group, not necessarily Republicans) will attempt to scare people about Baracky’s middle name and race, because if history holds true, he will point those things out repeatedly. Don’t like Baracky’s complete lack of experience? Racist! Type the words Baracky Hussein Obama? Racist. Think he is a socialist? Racist! Think he is a soft minded appeaser? Racist! He is going to bridge the racial divide by beating anyone that disagrees with him with the racist club.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:43 pmDRJ – Did you catch on that I am no fan of the shinyhopeychangey one ?
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:44 pmDRJ I tend to agree with you, which is why I’m confused by the statement in the first place. It not only doesn’t make sense, it really isn’t in line with the theme of his whole campaign.
Of course, plenty of statements have been taken out of context by rabid partisans on both sides (e.g. McCain’s “100 years” statement). I don’t know much about the context of this statement at all.
Phil (6d9f2f) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:46 pmIf anyone is saying “and by the way he’s black” it’s the media. Almost every single news story includes the inevitable “Obama would be the first black U.S. president.” Even the story Patterico linked to has it as the closing paragraph. As if Americans need to be reminded of that every day.
Phil (6d9f2f) — 6/21/2008 @ 5:49 pmDaleyrocks-
Haven’t considered what I would put on that belittles asshole/ self-righteous prick Obama. I refrained last election because my neighbors were all Lurch worshippers.
Knew a dude back in ’68 who had Wallace for Prez stickers all over his car. He was in car when a black accosted him and said he didn’t like that Wallace shit. Dude picks up gun and asks if he likes the 357 better…oh, I didn’t mean nothin’.
I have some liberals here lamenting the selection of Obama and thinking something might yet happen. I suppose any change would necessitate rioting and looting. I was taken by how Iowans have dealt with massive flooding with katrina-like consequences. Ditto when Colorado had big snows a few years back. Baracky’s culture is one of hate, dependency, irresponsibility, ultra-violence and sense of entitlement. Dems love to bring up race and it is politically incorrect and racist for us to toss their own words back at them. A Sharpton or Jackson can spew rabid hate speech and be protected because they’re black libs. And what’s with people like JC Watts and Armstrong seeing Barack as better alternative to McCain? Guess skin color is tres important to them? Ever notice how the black minority gets so much media attention? A shithead is a shithead regardless of color.
madmax333 (36734b) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:02 pmshould be WITHOUT having all the ills of Katrina like looting and the fake media horror stories.
madmax333 (36734b) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:06 pmI know conventional wisdom is that Bush wanted Blacks to croak en masse. And what happened to that General who coined “Stuck on Stupid”?
Of course the black N.O. mayor and lady dem guv Blanco had no culpability for the clusterfu*k of Katrina.
This must be a different Phil.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:20 pm#21
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:24 pmDRJ thanks for not ruining my fun. I agree with you that to an extent, Obama has basically disarmed anyone who is ever dreaming of using his race against him. It comes from an old Kenyan war play book called, “Call them racists before they are and they wont want to be that.” Or something like that. It also is adapted from another play book that says “Scare away the people who want to scare your people away from you…” The author of this book is dead actually. And he burnt the last copy. Sorry.
max – Imagine the restraint it took for those folks from Iowa to refrain from chowing down on each other like those cannibals in New Orleans!!!!
Some of those people are pretty large too.
Amazing!!!!
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:28 pmOnly problem, lovie, is that the only people that seem to care about race are the Baracky campaign, the media, and the caricatures in the Baracky campaign’s heads.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:28 pmdaley – Astonishing. We made it through the flooding in central Indiana and there were no reported incidents of cannibalism, and no roving gangs, or rapes. Shocking.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:29 pmJD – There’s nothing worth stealing in central Indiana, so I think you got a break because of your location, dude.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:31 pmYeah, that and just a bunch of racist sexist homophobes clinging to their guns and churches.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:38 pmPhil,
I think it helps Obama if the media focuses on his race – except with clearly racist voters, and Obama’s campaign has already said that those people weren’t going to vote for him anyway. The media can suggest Obama is being treated unfairly because of his race while Obama never has to claim he was subject to racism or inequality.
However, when Obama himself claims he is being treated unfairly, he opens the door to a conversation about whether he’s had special benefits because of his race — benefits like affirmative action. I don’t think Barack Obama was an affirmative action beneficiary but that’s not a discussion that will help him in the long run.
McCain can do the same thing with his POW status in Vietnam. He says he isn’t going to capitalize on his hardships in Vietnam, but he has surrogates who can do it for him. Of course, Obama’s media surrogates have bigger megaphones than McCain’s people have, so that suggests Obama may have the advantage when it comes to back-channel messages.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:44 pmA huge part of his campaign theme has been to focus on his race, at least the half that he can work to his advantage .
As a minority woman, I find his statement and pathetic playing the victim card offensive and degrading. It was enough that I disagreed with him about the issues and felt he lacked creds, experience and discernment. But now that I also know he is a racist, there is no question he should not be in office. He shames himself.
Let the backpedaling begin.
Dana (eb599c) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:49 pmNo doubt too, that ageism will rear its ugly head in the next few months but of course that form of discrimination simply isn’t as bad as racism…so its okay.
Dana (eb599c) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:51 pmDRJ – Wasn’t it Baracky and his apostles the ones that were telling us that they were going to have that oh so important and difficult national conversation on race? Again, their idea of this is appears to be calling people racists, and sounds much more like a monologue than a discussion.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:55 pmGod knows the Dems have been shouting it from the rooftops for a year now…
Republicans don’t ever need to mention it – Liberals mention his race every chance they get…
Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 6/21/2008 @ 6:56 pmMy name is John Kerry, and did I mention that I served in VietNam?
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:04 pmHow did he play the race card here? I fail to see it Dana. He stated an obvious fact. Some people are going to not vote for him because he is black. Thats a fact. And there will be people who will take advantage of that to further demonize him to such people. He is simply saying “Dont let them scare you…” How is that pulling the race card or any card for that matter? Right now, there are people who busy themselves with the job of spreading lies about him on the internet; that he is moslem and he went to a moslem school in indonesia. All lies that have been debunked by the facts. He is talking about something that is and will continue to happen. And stop all this hypocritical talk about being disappointed in ‘obama as though you were contemplating for a second to vote for him. Some of you sound as if “oh he is very very bad. I was going to vote for him until he said that. Now I am disappointed in barack obama…” Get real folks.
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:09 pmSome people are going to not vote for him because he is black. Thats a fact.
Care to back up that charge, love2008?
Paul (19c9b7) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:13 pmRight now, there are people who busy themselves with the job of spreading lies about him on the internet; that he is moslem and he went to a moslem school in indonesia.
Ok, I’ll grant you that he can renounce the Koran/Sharia and say that he is not a Moslem just because his father was. But he did, for a fact, go to a madrassa in Indonesia.
nk (b5fc3f) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:15 pmYou are kidding, right?
He was not talking about some people not voting for him because he is black. He was talking about Republicans, and the McCain campaign, and how they were going to try to scare people with the fact that he has no experience, a funny middle name which must never be said out loud lest you be called a racist, and the fact that he is black. So far, himself, his campaign, the Dems, and the media are talking about that. They are imagining what the caricatures of Republicans in their own heads would do. They are pre-emptively playing the race card.
I am disappointed in Baracky Osama. He promised us a difficult national discussion on race. So far, it has involved calling his granny a racist, distancing himself from his mentor and his church, and pre-emptively calling Republicans racists. I guess this whole discussion is difficult, for Baracky.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:15 pmPaul – I believe that is true, though I could not support it. That number will be more than offset by the people that have voted for him at 90%+ rates so far, based on his race.
Didn’t he, in fact, go to a madrassa in Indonesia? I guess it is racist to point that out though. Just like saying his middle name is Hussein is racist. I condemn nk.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:18 pmlove2008, Obama is making a premptive strike with such a provoking comment. Its effective in two ways: liberal whites will nod their heads in agreement and up their support which would include middle class which he needs. Secondly in case he does not win the election, he has already stated the reason why.
I don’t believe any statements made are innocuous and without knowing the target…. well, until that backpedaling beings anyway…
Of course there are people who won’t vote for him because he is 50% black.
And it is also equally true that people also will not vote for McCain because is white. (According to the Pew Poll 5/1/08, 90% of blacks are supporting Obama, 6% McCain).
So do you think it would be perfectly fine and would McCain be justified in making the following statement:
“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s old and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s white?”
Dana (eb599c) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:27 pm#65
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:44 pmThis is just another example of fear-mongering which he is alluding to in his words. Didn’t he, in fact, go to a madrassa in Indonesia? Anyone reading this will get the impression that he went to some terrorist, training school where they teach little kids to make bombs. All lies. First of all a madrassa or “madrassa” is arabic name for any kind of school, whether religious (of any religion) or secular. It is their word for schools. So to an arab you all went to a madrassa. It is insinuations like this that he is warning his people about. Lies thrive among the ignorant. So also fear.
#66
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:51 pmThey’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s old and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s white?”
Yes that would have made more sense if Mccain was a minority, competing in a black dominated area like in Kenya or zimbabwe. McCain does not belong to the minority class in America. He can never experience marginalization from African Americans. That is without saying, I hope.
love2008:
Anyone reading this will get the impression that he went to some terrorist, training school where they teach little kids to make bombs.
Really?
Anyone?
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/21/2008 @ 7:52 pmHe can never experience marginalization from African Americans.
Let’s see, current polling shows only 6% of the black vote supporting McCain.
I’d say that’s marginalization.
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:01 pmJD #54,
Way off-topic … but I am impressed with the fortitude and positive attitude of the people who are dealing with these floods.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:02 pmDRJ – I could not agree more.
lovie – So, telling the absolute verifiable truth that Baracky attended a madrassa is racist? This is like smearing someone with the truth. Good Allah. You may get the impression that a madrassa is a terrorist training camp. The other moonbats might think that as well. Those of us who know that madrassa means school in Arabic do not need you to tell us that.
BTW – lovie is pushing that only white people can be racist meme. It was recently discussed at feministe, where they redfined racism to include an element of political control and power.
JD (191be1) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:10 pm#61
“How did he play the race card here?”
— Obama: “They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”
“He stated an obvious fact. Some people are going to not vote for him because he is black. Thats a fact.”
— The question is, why did he state it? He didn’t need to do it.
“And there will be people who will take advantage of that to further demonize him to such people. He is simply saying “Dont let them scare you…” How is that pulling the race card or any card for that matter?”
Icy Truth (33875f) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:29 pm— Why does he need to worry about being ‘further demonized’ to people who aren’t going to vote for him anyway. He is implying that mainstream members of the opposition party are going to play the race card without any proof that such a thing is actually going to take place.
Daleyrocks-
madmax333 (89e9f4) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:44 pmI suffered terribly here in S. Fla. back in ’03 during two hurricane power outages. I longed for tasty neocon flesh to chow down on, but that political animal was rarely found in my neighborhood. Imagine sweet human steak tartare served with a fine chianti and fava beans.
Am filled with self-loathing and feel compelled to use an “N” word describing Fast Eddie Obama. Hope that Lovechild won’t be too mortified over my dissing his asshat buddy BHO. Here goes: N for NEOPHYTE.
Funny how I always thought race and sex should not be the issue. Used to fill out those forms with HUMAN for race and OCCASIONAL for sex. So where and what is Baracky’s character? Someone alluded to Mencia mentioning race, but I missed the content. We aren’t allowed as racists to talk about Michelle O’d “feistiness”. What about her wide hips and all dat junk in da trunk? It’s apparently fine to disparage Hillary’s fat ass and legs.
#67
“This is just another example of fear-mongering which he is alluding to in his words. Didn’t he, in fact, go to a madrassa in Indonesia? Anyone reading this will get the impression that he went to some terrorist, training school where they teach little kids to make bombs.”
— Why? because you are stereotyping muslim schools? Straightforward reporting of the facts of his biography do not automatically lead to negative conclusions about him; that is, unless you are of the shallow opinion that most people reading such a factoid will automatically assume the worst, which it sounds like you are. If so, it sounds like you are giving the average voter little credit for being able to make honest determinations on their own.
“It is insinuations like this that he is warning his people about. Lies thrive among the ignorant. So also fear.”
Icy Truth (33875f) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:44 pm— Again, it is his assumption that the mainstream of the Republican Party is going to launch such specious attacks that is the problem here. He’s telling “his people” to expect the very worst without ANY proof that it is coming.
As so many liberals assured us yesterday, Obama renounced his commitment to public financing because he’s a pragmatist now and he wants to win. Thus, I think it’s fair to assume that everything Obama does from this point on is part of his strategy to win, and I guess that includes playing the “Don’t let them scare you because I’m black” card.
DRJ (6ae0d1) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:48 pm“He can never experience marginalization from African Americans.”
Lovey – Condi Rice, Michael Steele and plenty of other republican blacks have been marginalized by african americans. I think it’s a party thing, not a race thing, lovey. YMMV.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 8:58 pmWhy? because you are stereotyping muslim schools? Straightforward reporting of the facts of his biography do not automatically lead to negative conclusions about him; that is, unless you are of the shallow opinion that most people reading such a factoid will automatically assume the worst, which it sounds like you are. If so, it sounds like you are giving the average voter little credit for being able to make honest determinations on their own.
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:07 pmI am glad to know that we are on the same side. Obama need not worry about you being deceieved by these evil conspirators he speaks of.
Watch out–Obama will call you a racist for that one.
Patricia (f56a97) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:11 pmAnd let us not forget the incident the other day: Obama’s people not allowing the two Muslim women to sit behind him because of concerns about the image — the two of them with their head scarves in the same shot with the candidate. There’s no clearer representation of Obama’s elitism than that . . . his people were worried that those heartland voters who have “antipathy to people who aren’t like them” would react negatively to such a sight, and would change their minds about voting for him because of it.
He’s hoping to receive votes from people to whom he feels morally superior. I wonder how many of those people he was referring to in that San Francisco speech have thrown their grandmothers under the bus.
Icy Truth (33875f) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:12 pmI don’t understand how The Lightworker’s accusations of racism directed at him will help us evolve nor begin the process of racial healing. Ok, so the friends of obama in the black community are into the black separation thing. Does that mean that Urkel owes more to blacks and would further alienate whitey?
David Palmer seemed like a decent liberal black POTUS who was replaced by his lame-ass brother after assassination in series 24. I don’t know how the brother got the job. I gather the show will go further down the liberal path with a woman as POTUS played by a lesbian. How come we have no openly gay people running for Prez? Are you people also homophobes?
Speaking of Obama having us “evolve”, See-Dubya at http://www.michellemalkin.com has an interesting article about the Radical, Intellectual Roots of the Eugenics Movement. Those people are truly scary.
madmax333 (5b7bbd) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:13 pm#77
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:14 pmYes Daley, I think so too.
#80
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:25 pmSo whats your point exactly? Obama has openly apologised for that incident citing pictures he has taken with scarved women. Maybe some overzealous staff member felt he was doing his or her job there. No beef there. Unless of course you want to spin that into obama hating moslems. That will be very interesting…..for a change. Even the husbands and families of these said women have accepted his apology, stating that they will vote for him notwithstanding.
love2008 –
Amazingly, most folks who know what the hell a madrassa is will know it’s the equivilant of going to parochial school, but Islamic.
By the way, the AP says that he was enrolled as a Muslim for 1-3rd in Catholic School, *in addition* to the madrassa.
At any rate…unless Barack finds something shameful in having BECOME a Christian from being raised a Muslim when he was young, why exactly does he throw a fit? And if he DOES find it shameful, why did he stop going by Barry? Why did he make such a big deal about Rev. Wright (who wasn’t the man he thought he was) bringing him into the christian faith?
(Side note: my mother doesn’t watch much TV; she thought Barack was simply the victim of “creative” parents for the longest time, and actually called me up when she finally did find out he was black– and she only found out *from his supporters* having a fit on the local radio station.)
Foxfier (15ac79) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:36 pmmax – I wouldn’t object to some chick on chick action in the White House as long as they were hot and I could watch. Government should be transparent in cases like that.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:38 pmMcCain does not belong to the minority class in America.
Ah, so white POWs are a MAJORITY in America?
Dang. The things you learn on the internet….
Foxfier (15ac79) — 6/21/2008 @ 9:40 pmFirst of all a madrassa or “madrassa” is arabic name for any kind of school, whether religious (of any religion) or secular. It is their word for schools. So to an arab you all went to a madrassa.
Well, I’m not an arab (sic). I went to *school*. If that’s Barack Abigail-Adams Obama’s understanding of a “school” … Do they speak Arabic in Indonesia BTW?
I know, I know, cheap shot. How dare we question his …. Hmm, beats the hell out me what. He doesn’t stand for anything. His empty-suitednes?
nk (b5fc3f) — 6/21/2008 @ 10:09 pm#84 – love2008
“So whats your point exactly?”
— It’s exactly what I already said: his people were worried that those heartland voters who have “antipathy to people who aren’t like them” would react negatively to such a sight, and would change their minds about voting for him because of it. My point is that this incident happened because of that mindset.
“Obama has openly apologised for that incident citing pictures he has taken with scarved [sic] women.”
— Apologies are important, but they aren’t magic wands that make the original incident fade from memory. In fact, depending on the infraction it’s probably true that most people who receive apologies choose to forgive but not forget.
“Maybe some overzealous staff member felt he was doing his or her job there.”
— Discriminating against someone because of their religious beliefs; the exact opposite of what the candidate purports to stand for. Overzealous or (more disturbing) acting on a directive from top campaign officials; either way it’s disturbing that it happened at all.
“No beef there. Unless of course you want to spin that into obama hating moslems [sic].”
— Your propensity for throwing out highly negative hypothetical scenarios is kinda scary. I never said anything of the kind. The mere fact that any member of the campaign would be willing to segregate the crowd that way should give us all pause.
“Even the husbands and families of these said women have accepted his apology, stating that they will vote for him notwithstanding.”
Icy Truth (33875f) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:30 am— Some people who were targets of Don Imus’s ravings said the same thing; that doesn’t make it acceptable. The target of an action does not enjoy the exclusive right to judge the actions of a public figure.
McCain does not belong to the minority class in America. He can never experience marginalization from African Americans.
Yeah, because being held as an American prisoner of war in the Hanoi Hilton, beaten up every single day for years on end, is not a **tenth** as bad as the marginalization and oppression of the average African American in modern day America.
McCain will never know the kinds of harsh challenges in America that faced a guy who was sent to an elite prep school in Hawaii for his childhood, and then had to face both Columbia and Harvard Law before making top dollar at a major law firm, so I think it’s time all of you start to keep some perspective on this whole thing.
Anon (5c20ae) — 6/22/2008 @ 2:12 amDamn, that settles it. Young & inexperienced I could live with, having a finger on the button. But black with a funny name? Not on your life!
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 6/22/2008 @ 2:12 amWouldn’t it be funny if, as Obama plays the race card time and again, he finds it’s a post-racial electorate.
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 6/22/2008 @ 2:15 amAh, so white POWs are a MAJORITY in America?
No, but apparently they were the majority in Vietnam – who knew?
Anon (5c20ae) — 6/22/2008 @ 2:18 amRe: the scarved muslim women at Obama rally. Chas. Johnson at lgf says they weren’t really protesting, they just wanted more visibility and are connected to radical Islamic terrorist front groups.
Another take on the affair:
madmax333 (993f9c) — 6/22/2008 @ 2:57 amhttp://www.debbiesclussel.com/archives/2008/06/muslim-grievanc.html She thinks Obama has history of overpandering to muslim groups who will vote for him in any case. Jihadists at work instrumental in taxpayers paying for muslim foot baths at universities, for example.
Robin Hood: As my first order of business, I would like to appoint a new Sheriff… my friend Ahchoo.
Horatio (55069c) — 6/22/2008 @ 6:10 amCrowd: A black sheriff?
Blinkin: He’s black?
Ahchoo: And why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles.
Baracky Voldemort Obama had an ad on ABC this morning. If you were not familiar with his actual history, you would be left with the impression that he grew up in Kansas. If you were familiar with his history, you would be left with the impression that he is a liar.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/22/2008 @ 6:29 amVero possumus. Safe for work.
nk (0abcef) — 6/22/2008 @ 6:42 amvero possumus… indeed yes, we can
but how about some of powerline’s ideas:
In Obamano speramus -In Obama we trust
or for the real Obamatards like a few on this blog-
Credo Quia Absurdum- I believe because it is absurd
I see that Europe is not thrilled with Urkel’s lack of preconditions for talking to Iran, particularly to stop enriching uranium. Bambi the wuss would feel compelled to make Moron.org and Dinnerjacket happy with him and strive to be another Chamberlain by giving away the store for nothing. Iceholes of the world unite for hope and change.
madmax333 (36734b) — 6/22/2008 @ 9:09 am“If Obama is President will we still call it the White House?”
Just google that phrase.
The whisper campaign on Obama being a Muslim and the others questioning his “roots” are racist. Or would you prefer “xenophobic”?
But if Obambi brings it up you ignore the history and say it begins with him. Nice try. If O’bomba wins its because he ran as Tiger Woods while McCain is running as Stumpy the Clown. At least Bob Barr has principles.
just another reader (a97832) — 6/22/2008 @ 9:37 amjust another reader-
The whisper campaign on Obama being a Muslim and the others questioning his “roots” are racist. Or would you prefer “xenophobic”?
At this point, it’s a matter of finding out if he’s lying again. Oh, by the way– it is NOT xenophobic or racist to investigate the evidence to the contrary when someone keeps making a big honkin’ deal about how Christian they are, especially given the “church” that Obama was at for so long.
Foxfier (15ac79) — 6/22/2008 @ 10:28 am“just another reader”, you are demonstrating exactly what we are talking about, sweeping legitimate criticisms of Obama into accusations of racism.
The electorate is going to get tired of this tactic in the next 5 months.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/22/2008 @ 10:30 am“McCain does not belong to the minority class in America…”
Question: has there been a time in modern American history where white males have been as denigrated, belittled (hint: any tv family show) and demeaned as they currently are?
Dana (eb599c) — 6/22/2008 @ 10:54 amHope you all went to church today.
love2008 (1b037c) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:04 amHope you all went to church today.
If we’re praying to the false messiah, though, does it really matter?
Anon (5c20ae) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:10 amHi, Dana. That resonates. Let McCain be the black man, and you just might see the Nam POW, the age thing, the righteous anger, and all the other ‘negatives’ on his political profile card suddenly explode into positives.
Let Obama be the white male, and you get an inexperienced John Edwards from Chicago. Actually, Edwards was a practicing attorney. Bad comparison, you’ll have to get your own that works better.
allan (bf0c63) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:14 amHope you all went to church today.
Even if it’s a racial supremest one?
Foxfier (15ac79) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:15 amAllan- it’s not perfect, but wouldn’t Colin Powell be a decent “McCain as a black guy” stand-in?
At least as good as Edwards=Obama….
Foxfier (15ac79) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:17 am“If Obama is President will we still call it the White House?”
Just google that phrase.
Project much? One idiot illustrates the entire side?
Too bad none of the lefty sites that I looked at high up on the search (I didn’t read them all) bothered to update their posts by quoting this Dallas Morning News Story: Texas GOP cuts off vendor that sold racist campaign pin.
If you want to scream about What’s Wrong With This Damn World, maybe you should start at mybarackobama.com, which oozes so much filth the administrators cannot keep up with it.
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:18 amIt is proven by statistics that regular church goers stand the chance of living longer than those who dont go at all or regularly. They have also been proven to be the happiest people on earth.
love2008 (1b037c) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:28 amFor once lets not interprete everything to mean something than it really is. I asked a simple christian question and I hoped someone out there went to church today. But never mind.
I asked a simple christian question and I hoped someone out there went to church today.
You should have made that clear in the original comment.
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:34 amChicago-machine candidate scares me more than naive, unaccomplished by Presidential standards, hate-worshipper of X/(*-faith, genetic blueprint, etc. It’s the people behind the curtain that voters will be investing with Executive power for the next 4 years, many of whom have been revealed to be enemies of America and/or liberal extremist party-hack retreads. This nappy-headed white-boy (is that racist?) is a red-herring. America needs to know more about the power-seekers keeping this Mardi Gras candidate on the float.
Chocolate city, indeed! Nagin for VP!!
The nutroots demand it! Hey, throw me some beads, mister!
Orville Redenbacher, I love you, man, with butter.
twolaneflash (6c1719) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:35 am“I asked a simple christian question”
As a secular jew (though technically a mutt) I’ll just say the answer is “no”
just another reader (a97832) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:38 amjust another reader is just another lying mendoucheous asshat. I love how the Left projects things onto their political opponents. Dreaded whisper campaigns are always claimed.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:41 amJD, be nice. JAR’s getting his ass handed to him this morning here and in the David Brooks thread.
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:45 am#111
love2008 (1b037c) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:46 amA mutt? So whats the other parent?
Lovie – Better Half, My 6 yr. old, and our newborn angel all went to church, as we do every Sunday. I parked next to a guy with a Baracky sticker on his car, and wondered what it was like to worship 2 Gods.
JD (191be1) — 6/22/2008 @ 11:59 amHi allan, long time, no chat.
The double standard at play in this is almost surreal.
What? Because McCain has not been as marginalized as Obama, then Obama is justified in making such an overtly racist charge? Is he so delicate that we can’t call him out on his hypocrisy? Being a white male in this America, McCain has no recourse other than to stick to the issues and stay out of the gutter.
I thought the whole idea of hope-and-change-post-racial politicky stuff, was that race was not an issue and not to factor into one’s voting preference. Only the issues.
Instead an incendiary accusation is not only accepted but embraced:
From the NYT after Obama made his statement to supporters: “The crowd ate it up.”
Again, the progressives don’t live up to their claim, instead revealing they are still mired in racial politics/identity. I wish they could actually progress to where most here appear to be:
We don’t care about race. (but we are getting tired of being forcefed it).
Apparently Obama hasn’t met many of the objective, fair minded citizens who actually vote for a candidate based on their stand on the issues. He should get out more and then maybe he wouldn’t assume the worst about the American people.
Dana (eb599c) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:18 pmJD what was written on the sticker that made you think that? Did it say something like “Obama saves.”?
love2008 (0c8c2c) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:22 pmDana – Apparently, this is what they mean when they describe Baracky as the post-racial post-partisan candidate.
lovie – My subtle humor was lost on you.
JD (191be1) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:35 pmRead my blog. It has a lot of information on Barry.
WingedHussar1683 (a757fd) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:37 pmThis Washington Post/ABC News poll says Americans harbor twice as much age-based bias as racial bias.
DRJ (81c148) — 6/22/2008 @ 12:46 pmDRJ, that explains the fondness among many Obama partisans for making bigoted ageist comments about McCain.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/22/2008 @ 1:11 pm#104 Allan-
Don’t forget that the Breckgirl also has the power to channel dead kids for juries. Ok, so Edwards could not have won re-election as senator, but my own local moonbats do adore him so as Potus material. I don’t know what it is like around some of your own neighborhoods, outside of Madison, SF/Berkeley and Manhattan, but I’ve got codepinkos just down the street from me and watched traffic slow down due to picketing by Paultards some months back.
The Jewish voters I’ve talked to appear to be getting some objectivity about Baracky, but they still loathe McCain, even though he’d do far more to protect Israel than an Urkel. But then, Wexler is trying hard to make people buy argument that Obambi is best for them. I don’t know about Jews or even Israeli Jews. France states that Israel is a shitty little nation and Israel is ready to kiss more terrorist butt to gain a little euroweenie respect? You didn’t hear much about the great France with 10% Muslims and hundreds of cities that had car arsons precipitated by disaffected mooooolim yoots nightly a couple of summers ago or the massive deaths due to heat wave. Imagine either circumstance happening here under Bush. Btw, some loons in Mass. academia want Bush and his lieges to be prosecuted and hanged. WTF? Oh, read somewhere that Obama is down with Bushies being prosecuted by international war crimes tribunals. I hope Barry is also down with being impeached himself. Although that is a nonstarter because, if elected, any woes will be the blame of the VRWC and racists/sexists/homophobes/Zionist lovers like you neocons on this blog…. and resultant riots, looting and killing by the underclass NWA’s on your consciences. I’m sure 1/16 black Obama is cool with that also.
madmax333 (931819) — 6/22/2008 @ 1:37 pmAnd what is it with liberal observation of McCain looking like a puppet on a string? Kerry gets a few pieces of rice shrapnel in his arse, has a magic hat, confesses his comrades are akin to Genghis Khan and liberals swoon. And now Wesley Clark/VP wannabe has the cojones to attack McCain? And our RINO Chuckie Hagel wants veep also? Asshats of the world unite! Hope! Change! Fresh fruit for the cherubs!
The Democrats have accused Republicans of racism for everything from budget priorities to meaningless congratulatory resolutions. They have no ideas, workable programs or integrity so everything becomes identity politics. The entirety of the Democratic message is “the Republicans hate you because you’re { fill in this blank ].
I am unconcerned because this Democrat/Lapdog media smear is now standard procedure and will remain so until some Democrat somewhere comes up with an idea.
Ken Hahn (7742d5) — 6/22/2008 @ 3:39 pmLevi disappeared, huh?
JD (75f5c3) — 6/23/2008 @ 5:52 amWhat I find disgusting is the word that you aren’t black unless you vote for Obama. That is racism pure and simple from the Obama supporters. This is not being dealt with in the media, just potential “smears” and “swiftboating” by the biased “journalists”.
PCD (5c49b0) — 6/23/2008 @ 6:32 amThey’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black
You know…those “Republicans”. You know how they are, those…”Republicans”.
You know how they act. Those “Republicans”.
And you know what they would do to you, if they ever got their hands on you…those “Republicans”.
And “we” all know…the type of people they are…those “Republicans”.
And they are going to run a campaign based upon trying to make you afraid….those “Republicans”.
Did I mention they were white?
Those “Republicans”.
This ad was paid for by the post-partisan, post-racial, healing, hope, change, open dialogue without preconditions with any enemy anywhere, any God who doesn’t want to kill the white man needs to be killed, the white man invented AIDS to kill people of color, I’m not proud of my country, the American flag is the wrong type of patriotism, candidate. And I approve this message in my campaign against “those Republicans”.
cfbleachers (4040c7) — 6/23/2008 @ 8:55 am“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black.”
Yannow that church I belonged to for over 20 years, the one that was based on black liberation theology, a doctrine that promotes separation of the races, you can forget about that now because I left that church. It’s all behind me.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/23/2008 @ 9:07 amWow! This makes two threads in a row where I dissect her words point-by-point and she basically responds by ignoring me.
Even silence can be read as a conciliatory white flag.
Of course, when one is writing such unChristian things (that’s with a capital “C”, as even this non-Christian knows) as in post #114, maybe she’s just moved on to new targets.
Icy Truth (4d32fd) — 6/23/2008 @ 3:40 pmSo we’re at the point now where we just blatantly start attributing things that other people say to Obama?
You put out some of the dumbest stuff I’ve ever read. I know you would probably say the same about me, and you’ve got all your buddies around here to give you props, but I just thought I’d let you know, since there isn’t really much else to talk about around here at the moment but your guys’ inane reaction to the red meat that gets tossed at you.
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 7:49 amGood ol’ Levi, insufferable juvenile prick as always.
Jack Klompus (cf3660) — 6/24/2008 @ 7:54 amLevi, you’ve again proven my point that you don’t read your own writings.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:03 amLevi returns, in all his glory !!!!!!!1
JD (75f5c3) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:15 am“So we’re at the point now where we just blatantly start attributing things that other people say to Obama?”
Levi – The quotes in the post were directly from Obama.
“there isn’t really much else to talk about around here at the moment but your guys’ inane reaction to the red meat that gets tossed at you.”
Levi – When does it become a problem that Obama keeps throwing red meat out there? Even Mark Shields essentially said he couldn’t pass a polygraph test on Saturday. The Lightworker is just another lying, hack politician who in this case just decided to preemptively plat the race card so he could accuse the other side of being racist whenever they criticize him. It’s a nice ploy for a unitey, post-racial candidate, don’t you think?
He’s a complete fraud.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:33 amIt seems a few on the left are getting upset with Urkel’s revisions. Some don’t like the about face on public campaign financing and others are really pissed about his 180 on FISA. I’m hoping that disgruntled Hillary women say eff Obama and at least sit out this cycle. McCain could help himself with a decent veep choice, but will he?
Levi would have more fun trolling over at Michelle Malkin’s site since they are really giving Juan mcCain a hard time there. Or if he waants a challenge he might try littlegreenfootballs. I wonder how quickly he’d be humiliated before being banned.
I think the aforementioned bloggers do a great public service what with Charles Johnson destroying Dan Rather’s credibility or keeping us enlightened about Jihas and Michelle sure draws plenty of liberal ire and ridicule. But Patterico sure is swell with west coast issues and quite erudite. I see Richard Fernandez and BelmontClub just moved over to pajamas media and he’s another treasure.
madmax333 (702424) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:37 ammax – I am comforted that Hillary is standing ready in the wings to step in when urkel falters and the democrat powers that be realize there is no possibility of victory with this fool of a candidate.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:44 amI can tell how much you all miss Levi here. Even though you all hate to admit it. Reminds me of a song by Rihanna: “I hate it that I love you…” Come on guys. Kiss and make up!
love2008 (1b037c) — 6/24/2008 @ 8:52 amAgain Levi, you give us insight to the left: React first, and then if time permits, read the post.
Dana (f12688) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:00 amdalyerocks – To be fair to the lying mendouceous crapweasel named Levi, all of the parpahrases It was objecting to were not uttered by Baracky. A couple were positions of his church, hence disowned, and some by Rev. Wright, who we all know only uncorked the krazy on Sundays that Baracky did not attend.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:29 amCan we all say together: Projection!
Another Drew (8018ee) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:32 amI know which post I’m talking about, do you?
Republicans are already running a racist campaign against him, where have you been for the past 4 months?
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:38 amLevi – I am talking about this post, which should be the subject of the thread.
No, republicans have not been running a racist campaign against Obama for four months. They have not needed to run against Obama you idiot. Hillary has done it for them. Where have you been?
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:47 amWell I was talking about what cftbleachers said. So why don’t you mind your own business? You don’t have to respond to every one of my posts, you know.
Republicans are perpetually campaigning against Democrats. Hillary tried to latch on to that Republican strategy in an attempt to snatch the nomination, but she was greatly assisted by the propaganda arm of the Republican party.
I’m ready to debate DRJ about this very topic, by the way.
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:57 amLevi
The fact that you think my posts are dumb…and that others give me “props” for them…makes me feel wonderful inside.
It all comes down to the opinions I respect. The fact that you fail to understand them, doesn’t surprise me.
Your response was a non sequitor…which only proves the point.
cfbleachers (4040c7) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:13 am#143
love2008 (1b037c) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:19 amRepublicans are perpetually campaigning against Democrats. Hillary tried to latch on to that Republican strategy in an attempt to snatch the nomination, but she was greatly assisted by the propaganda arm of the Republican party
True. True.
Daley I think you annoyed Levi by calling him an “idiot”. Can we have this conversation without the name calling? Thats why DRJ is always everyone’s favorite. She disagrees in a very respectful manner. Never calls names. She is the queen of this blog.
Republicans are perpetually campaigning against Democrats. Hillary tried to latch on to that Republican strategy in an attempt to snatch the nomination, but she was greatly assisted by the propaganda arm of the Republican party.
What’s the propoganda arm of the Republican party?
Gerald A (b9214e) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:25 am#145, Love2008, to call the pig an idiot is not only insulting all the idiots in the world, it is magnifying the significance of the all wrong pig greatly.
PCD (5c49b0) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:25 amCare to offer anything resembling evidence to support that overt and aggressive lie ?
cfbleachers – FWIW, I respect you, quite a bit. Wrangler, not so much.
JD (75f5c3) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:29 amWhat point were you making? Your description of Obama’s candidacy that I quoted is absurd, it’s a litany of misconstrued statements made by entirely different people. You actually believe all that crap, don’t you?
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:34 amRush Limbaugh and his talk-radio cronies, with a very important assist from an money-grubbing, embarrassingly inept, and easily intimidated mainstream media.
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:37 amTell us how they were “misconstrued”.
You have yet to provide evidence of the racist campaign the Republicans are running against Baracky.
JD (75f5c3) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:39 amIf Rush, and Shawn, and others, are the Propaganda Arm of the GOP, why do they criticize Republicans so strongly?
Another Drew (8018ee) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:43 amShouldn’t they be emphasizing the GOP’s strong points, and ignoring their face-flops?
Whereas Libs on PBS never criticize the Left because they are agenda driven, “right-wing talk-radio” is an equal opportunity criticizer because they are driven by ratings.
cfbleachers, your comments are always a treat to read. (Especially what you posted at Pajamas a few days ago).
Dana (b4a26c) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:48 amThey criticize them now because they’re losers. Elected Republicans have turned the country against the party, and Rush and the gang are pissed off that they’re now on the losing side.
It’s really not any more complicated than that.
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:51 amAD – Even answering that kind of drivel is pointless. It is premised on some kind of bizarre assumption that the MSM is not liberal, and that Rush and Sean have some incredible influence on wide swaths of people. The conservative media on the television is a tiny fucking miniscule fraction of ABC, SeeBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc … Plus, their assumption is also premised on anyone to the right of Fidel being conservative, for example, Joe Lieberman. It is a thoroughly unserious position.
JD (75f5c3) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:51 amLevi – Name one current Republican elected official that last their last election.
JD (75f5c3) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:52 amWhat point were you making? Your description of Obama’s candidacy that I quoted is absurd, it’s a litany of misconstrued statements made by entirely different people. You actually believe all that crap, don’t you?
Levi, I will go as slowly as possible here…so that my “dumb” posts can sink in.
“Those Republicans” are the type of people who are “trying to scare you”. That is the way “they” act.
1) The white man created AIDS to kill people of color (came from which side of the aisle?)
Is this a fear tactic?
Trying to scare people?
Based upon race?
2)A certain type of Christianity is acceptable and another kind is not.
If God doesn’t want to kill the white man, then that God must be killed.
1)From which side of the aisle did this statement come? Did it originate with “those Republicans”?
Is it based upon race?
but we all “know” how “those Republicans” will act. What “they” will do to try to stir up racial resentments and fears…”those Republicans”.
the very people who have been stirring up resentmen and fear and racial tension…seem to reside a little closer to Sen. Obama’s inner circle than the unnamed, unidentified “those Republicans” and there are concrete statements to point at and discuss…rather than the nebulous, amorphous, unidentified “they ARE GOING TO…do these things and say these things….those Republicans”.
Does this help you to understand? (I will not hold my breath that you would follow it, or worse…admit it that you now do.)
Thanks JD and Dana…and right back at ya.
cfbleachers (4040c7) — 6/24/2008 @ 12:25 pm#150 with the easily intimidated mainstream media? Surely you jest. The media has been pro-Obama all the way. Your paper of record strives to find dirt on McCain with stories about McCain and a lobbyist perhaps being romantic some years back and with her having undue influence on the senator or whether McCain is even an American citizen, having been born in the canal zone. Does the maintsream media talk at all about Obama’s ties to the Chicago fixers or corrupt polls, his earmarks that go to racist churches or his wife’s employer? No, your lackey media gets erections thinking about Obama and shows their biased colors with no attempt at objectivity. Hope and Change, my ass. Just the same old dirty politics and obfuscations about how he is better and now is subject to attacks for being young and inexperienced with an odd and his incandescent “blackness” BS. Eff him and his obamatards.
lovetron- if you are male, perhaps you are the queen of this board with your adulation and sycophant behavior towards Obama.
madmax333 (45e31f) — 6/24/2008 @ 12:40 pmOh yeah, what burns some of our butts is that taxpayers subsidize the propaganda spewing forth from PBS and NPR. What is the matter? Would they suffer the same fate as Air America if they had to make it on their own? And yet the left wants to shut down commercial- supported right wing outlets like Fox News and Rush. Not a word about the left bias of CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and all the monies Soros pours into leftist causes. Or all the hate-america propaganda emanating from Hollywood or all the free time Obama is given by same media suckups. And of course the evenhanded, patriotic propaganda crap dumped by the likes of piggy Michael Moore and Oliver Stone.
madmax333 (45e31f) — 6/24/2008 @ 12:46 pmSo now candidates are beholden to everything that emanates from a certain ‘side of the aisle,’ huh?
You’re not even fun anymore.
Levi (74ca1f) — 6/24/2008 @ 1:05 pmJust read a reader’s newspaper editorial about Bush violated our constitutional rights. The lady, a Levi soulmate, laments the loss of 4,000 of our fine young men in Iraq. Our economy and reputation around the world have been compromised. Bush has misdirected our unarmed forces into an unwinnable war. Two patriots, Rep. Kucinich and Wexler, have stepped forward to focus attention on critical issue of constitutional rights. …
madmax333 (45e31f) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:10 pmAnyway the dipwad keeps yapping about violation of our rights, but I guess I don’t understand what rights she and idiot bastard sons Wexler and Kucinich are bitching about losing. Didn’t Congress vote for the war? Don’t they continue to fund it? Who decides what is victory or defeat? I know you libs want a loss even if just for political purposes and to get back at evil Bush. The moonbat Ft. Lauderdale paper prints endless pleas for impeachment. “Congress is capable of multi-tasking..impeach now!” I say go for it and let people testify about the facts. After the 2000 election the shrinks set up shop here in Boca with PEST- post election stress therapy. It doesn’t seem to have cured any liberal/socialists/neo-marxists insanity though.
I guess if you get your info from the talking heads and bird cage fillers like the NY Times, you fall prey for the constant litany of camel dungt spewing forth in the guise of “news”. Yellow Journalism rules. Let’s string the jackasses up from lightpoles, starting with Pinch and his gang of traitors and add the scum talking out of class bureaucratic drones from CIA and Stated Dept.
Levi – We patiently await your evidence that the Republicans have been waging a racist campaign against Baracky Hussein Obama.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:27 pmRepublicans are already running a racist campaign against him, where have you been for the past 4 months?
Another clownish comment by you Levi. In fact, it is Hillary Clinton’s camp who have been caught with their fingerprints on the racist innuendo about Obama.
Where have we been? On this planet, in this reality. You?
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:34 pmSPQR- Levi still contends that there has not been as successful missile defense test. We are expecting waaaaaaaaaay too much for him to suppoer a noxious assertion like that.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:45 pmSo now candidates are beholden to everything that emanates from a certain ’side of the aisle,’ huh?
You’re not even fun anymore
Well, fun is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose…but you still don’t seem to grasp the point.
If your candidate of choice is going to make the accusation that a certain “type” of behavior is going to stem from “those people” (Republicans), he ought to look a bit more closely at his own inner circle and his “side” and their actions, deeds, behaviors and spoken words.
Hypocrisy stems from pointing at the “other” guy for behaviors that have not yet taken place…but are attributed to “we KNOW what THOSE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO DO”…while simultaneously wholly ignoring the EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR….which DID take place…from within his inner circle.
Again…I won’t hold my breath that you see the point, understand the problem or have the maturity to deal with it.
But suffice it to say….attempting to label “those Republicans” as the “type” who WILL IN THE FUTURE act in a certain way…while ignoring the leftists who have already done so…is the height of disgraceful pandering.
cfbleachers (4040c7) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:48 pmLovey – Perhaps moron would have been preferable. When Levi makes one of his blatantly unsupported and incorrect statements as he did above, a strong rebuke is called for as Levi has a history of not being either able or willing to back up such statements. If he is willing to support it to the satisfaction of DRJ, I will apologize. Otherwise, he is barking at the moon as usual.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:50 pmWasn’t Ed Rendell on TV last week, claiming that Republicans were behind an Obama rumor that had actually been sourced back to him?
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:51 pmPhil surprisingly wrote: I think the truly insulting thing about this whole statement is its implication that there are actually Republicans out there who don’t already know that Obama is black.
L.N. Smithee (e1f2bf) — 6/24/2008 @ 2:56 pmThanks for that bit of candor. If I was in McCain’s campaign, I would throw it right back in Obama’s face, and say,
SPQR – I think that was Bob Beckel
JD (5f0e11) — 6/24/2008 @ 3:23 pmSo now candidates are beholden to everything that emanates from a certain ’side of the aisle,’ huh?
That is the standard you hold us up to, so cry and gnash your teeth when your standard comes back and rips away your left ass cheek.
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/24/2008 @ 3:30 pmThanks for that load, Adam …
Especially for cut and pasting your trash directory, not to mention the thoughts of that hack, Hansen.
JD, Beckel? Damn, I messed that up.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/24/2008 @ 9:54 pmObama defends infanticide.
This would not go well in Pennsylvania.
Michael Ejercito (a757fd) — 6/24/2008 @ 10:01 pmHow did Adam’s trash directory make it through the spam filter?
Paul (0ea0cf) — 6/25/2008 @ 4:44 pmIs there any intellectual rigor in Hansen’s work?
SPQR – Happens to the best of us !!!! Lord knows I jam my foot in my mouth from time to time. Unlike Wrangler, who is content to gorge itself at the “All the foot and crow you can eat buffet”.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/25/2008 @ 5:04 pmJD, as for Hansen, you would think that after being completely discredited for the crude errors in the GISS temperature series, he’d shut up. But nope.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/25/2008 @ 5:06 pmFor the record, Levi scurried away like the coward that it is when asked to provide evidence of the racist campaign Republicans are running against Baracky Hussein Obama.
JD (5f0e11) — 6/25/2008 @ 5:16 pm“… again …”
Fixed that for you, JD.
SPQR (26be8b) — 6/25/2008 @ 5:19 pmNot all racists are Republicans, but all Republicans are racists.
El Grande (d88818) — 10/10/2008 @ 4:25 pm