[guest post by Dana]
A little Friday fun for you. Here are some new Trump and Biden campaign ads for your consideration. Let us know what you think in the comments.
From the Trump camp:
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 23, 2020
From the Biden camp:
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While clearly recognizing that the second ad is schmaltzy and designed to pull at one’s heartstrings and says nothing substantive as far as policy goes, I still like it. It’s old Americana with a vintage tinkering of the National Anthem in the background, gorgeous vistas of the country, and everyday people doing everyday things all edited with a retro-looking filter that sets a perfect tone of the message. Oh, and last but not least, Sam Elliott too.
Dana (6995e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 3:09 pmTrump’s commercial is a very regular political commercial in which he doesn’t look nuts. So go him?
Biden’s commercial keeps the theme he’s had going about getting everyone together, which has been pretty effective so far. I think they should’ve used a little “lighter” version of the anthem, though.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/23/2020 @ 3:30 pmI am convinced now. Biden’s strategy at the debate, where he was very simple and not specific, repeatedly saying he’s here for the whole country, was intended to get some low info undecided voters, under the idea everyone but them has made up their mind at this point. That matches the ad. If you just kinda don’t know what to think, and you’re told the other guy is to blame and this guy is real nice, that feels good.
We’ll see how it works.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 4:03 pmThey’re apples and oranges to some degree, because it’s a 30-second ad versus a full minute ad. The Trump spot is more focused on policy and data, while Biden is making an emotional appeal that just may resonate with those who have Trump Fatigue Syndrome.
norcal (a5428a) — 10/23/2020 @ 4:27 pmI think you’re right, Dustin. It I’ve been thinking about it, and I think it is also designed to appeal to Americans of any stripe who are simply exhausted by this past year. And I don’t mean just our political landscape, but everything from Covid and the pandemic, the never-ending fires, BLM and civil unrest, etc. it’s been a lot and this little ad promises a much-wanted moment for America to catch its collective breath. I think it will appeal to a lot of tired voters. The actual substance of the promise matters less than the whole appeal of the promise.
Dana (6995e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 4:29 pmIt is. And how many voters have not made up their mind, but are interested in policy and specific outcomes for things like our industries? Trump got his act together yesterday. It’s like the lazy kid who crams for a test.
All’s that left are voters who need motivation to vote, outrages against the other side, and voters who don’t know much about the world or don’t care (like Dana said, exhausted from this stuff).
Trump’s strategy is for turnout, and Biden doesn’t need to do that. Trump also engages turnout for biden’s voters (and Biden actually doesn’t).
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:03 pmShouldn’t Biden be kneeling? Maybe that’s unfair, but it was what I was thinking as he wrapped himself in the national anthem and the flag. Also, I was wondering why he couldn’t find a way to get Lincoln into the frame somewhere.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:03 pmTrump’s ad is effective, if you happen to believe it. Medicare Advantage premiums can be free, so the cost dropping isn’t all that accurate. He hits home with the Medicare-for-All bit, and perhaps doesn’t go far enough.
Telling those on Medicare that their care will be rationed and payments too low for many doctors to accept might have gone over. Adding “But don’t worry, they say if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor” might be fun, too. Not sure it helps Biden to deny he promised that.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:07 pmTrump got his act together yesterday. It’s like the lazy kid who crams for a test.
I think it’s more like some serious people took over his messaging.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:08 pmTrolling the troll:
Biden campaign creates TrumpCovidPlan.com website that opens to a nonexistent page
Like it!
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:14 pmLove it!
Want more of it!
It is a great ad. Seems presidential, like Trump did (everything is relative) in the beginning of the debate.
Good use of a white older woman to narrate too.
Biden’s ad has got all those kids, the voice over is someone who wants a future for them. It really doesn’t say too much. But the idea we can change directions for the children is pretty clear.
Trump should have had ads like this at least a month ago, and shoulda shown up to the first debate ready to be presidential. I wonder if his COVID was divine intervention.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:14 pmBiden is capable of building unity. He’s got the experience, the gravitas (no, really!) and the temperament to pull it off. The question is, will his party allow him to do it? Will the GOP allow him to do it?
He could build a congressional coalition, at least for the present, to fix the things that have been in no-mans-land for too effing long. Immigration, Obamacare and/or pre-Medicare options since Obamacare doesn’t work worth spit there, North Korea and Iran, and now China.
A Covid vaccine will tell us the path there, and we need to come to terms with the Black reality and how our government(s) treat our citizens differently by racial appearance. But neither of those problems are legislative, they just require leadership. Which we’ve been missing for rather more than 4 years. Getting over on the other side has to stop.
Of course, Biden might instead cave to his party, all of whom are to his Left, and pack the courts (not just the supreme court), nuke the filibuster, and pass radical law after radical law until the mid-terms. But it would be a terrible error.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:21 pmA suggestion to Biden: Have Amy Coney Barrett give you the oath. Bury the hatchet in a way that everyone can see.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:24 pmTrump’s rally today in Florida had something for everyone!
White supremacists and birthers:
Sexists:
Death cultists:
And Deezy-eska:
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:26 pmBiden keeps plagiarizing Obama’s ‘No blue states, no red states only the United States’ line/theme.
Then uses Sam Elliott, Doritos, RAM trucks pitcma… to sell Biden. But then, Sam’s v/o brings to mind, of course, his riole in the bloodbath that was the film Gettysburg. Or Road House— where he gets killed. Or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, where he accuses the outlaw of cheating, then chickens out of a gunfight.
Yes, using Hollywood has such an appeal to all those ‘Conservatives For Biden’—doesn’t it, Joe.
Idiot.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:28 pm^pichma = pitchman
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:29 pmLOL that’s a stretch.
He better hope conservative Biden voters didn’t watch the debate because he’s said some remarkably alienating stuff.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:30 pm@17. Actually, it’s a fact. He’s done it repeatedly.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:32 pmLOL ok
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:34 pm@14. Trump’s essentially a ‘Rockefeller Republican’ Davey. Very much a J.R. Ewing/Larson E. Whipsnade type; entertaining. An he ascribes to the optimism of Norman Vincent Peale.
Plagiarist JoeyBee is darker; doom and gloom; more Clyburn’s ‘Creature From The Black Lagoon.’ Or is it Scranton, today. 😉
Doom! Doom! Doom!
“No miracle is coming.” – Joe Biden
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:34 pmWhat an idiotic thing to say. As Michael Scott as I AM THE LEAST RACIST PERSON IN THE COSMOS! declaration.
That’s why he has a plan and Trump doesn’t*
*I know this is all BS on Biden’s part
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:40 pm@19. He lost Pennsylvania last night.
He and Kammy have been trying back peddle all day over the end big oil/no/yes/fracing bit..
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:41 pmThat would be awesome although a lot of people who voted for him, including senators and congress-critters in his party, would feel like he was rubbing salt in a wound.
Pretty big ask, but it would be a bold and courageous statement.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:42 pmPresident Trump’s campaign really is out of money. His campaign just retrofitted one of his old Trump Steaks commercials:
“Do you love the flavor of [President Trump]? Would you like to receive the tasty goodness that is [President Trump] every month? Well now you can with the introduction of Trump [presidency for four more years]! Just sign up online to send $29.00 monthly to [President Trump] and we’ll keep the plump, juicy [presidency] coming to you time and time again! Or call 1-800-DE-LISHH to order your [four more years of President Trump]!”
qdpsteve (8d496a) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:43 pmIs that how Trump makes a fist? Good grief!
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:44 pmWe’re not going to have a socialist president
Dear Donald:
What were FDR, LBJ and probably Richard Nixon then? By the time 1976 rolled around, we were celebrating the Bicentennial a lot closer to socialism than we are today. Or at least what you call socialism.
Oh, and it’s your fault.
Sincerely,
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:45 pmEveryone else
I love this idea. Unfortunately, Kamala would probably murder him herself within 24 hours if Joe went through with it.
qdpsteve (8d496a) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:48 pmROFLMAO. Dustin, Biden was certainly the racist on that stage last night– and you didn’t need a dog whistle t hear him; he has barked it out loud and clear for decades;these are just from the 2000s:
“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” – Joe Biden, racist, 2008
“We should challenge students in these schools. We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.” – Joe Biden, racist, 2019
“I’ve had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking,” – Joe Biden, racist, 2014
“Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.” – Joe Biden, racist, 2020
And this gem for Jews: “That’s one of the things that he finds was most in need when he was over there in Iraq for a year,” Biden said during remarks at the 40th anniversary of the Legal Services Corporation. “That people would come to him and talk about what was happening to them at home in terms of foreclosures, in terms of bad loans that were being … I mean these Shylocks who took advantage of, um, these women and men while overseas.” – Joe Biden, racist and anti-semite, 2014
-source,PJMedia
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:50 pmNobody but the Chief Justice has ever administered the President’s oath of office. The only departure has been from the Clerk of the Supreme Clerk holding the Bible in favor of someone more photogenic.
Any number of different office holders have sworn in Vice Presidents. Amy can swear in Kamala.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:56 pmI love this idea. Unfortunately, Kamala would probably murder him herself within 24 hours if Joe went through with it.
Perhaps, but two things are true:
1) Biden is not running again, so he’s really free from many constraints.
2) We cannot go on fighting Us vs Them. A house divided cannot stand.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:56 pmWell you can’t be a good race hustler without also being a racist in my opinion, so Joe qualifies. Your statement is a tacit claim Trump isn’t a racist. LOL ok.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:00 pmI have a feeling Biden would nuzzle her inappropriately, grope her. So ACB probably wouldn’t agree to it.
Hoi Polloi (92d467) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:00 pmAmy can swear in Kamala.
Not sure that Amy is willing to use the Necronomicon.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:00 pmYou might as well cite stormfront as far as I’m concerned. Trash.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:01 pmBiden is a racist. He was also born on third base, but brags that he hit a triple. He’s as bad as Trump when it comes to those two attributes.
But he’s a Democrat so he gets away with it.
Hoi Polloi (92d467) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:02 pmThe quotes are wrong, then?
Hoi Polloi (92d467) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:02 pmFun aside, the test of Biden will be: can he move [enough of] both parties to the Center, or will his party drag him to the Left. If the former, he might have a great legacy. IF the latter he’ll lose the mid-term, and badly.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:03 pmBye now. Baseball.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:04 pmWhat makes Biden being born on third base?
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:05 pm@34. Dustin, the ‘source’ is BIDEN.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:08 pmBiden’s parents were strictly non-professional working middle-class. Not even doctors or lawyers.
It’s like the other Trumpkin poo-flinging. They just throw it out there, if it hits it hits, if it sticks it sticks.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:09 pmBiden is a racist.
The Vice President of the first black President. Okay, then.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:11 pmBigger polluter- big oil…. or Delaware’s DuPont.
Tell us, Joe.
‘Take DuPont, the company that produces Teflon and one of the biggest PFAS polluters. DuPont knew as early as the 1960s that the PFAS in Teflon were toxic, but they hid that information from the public’ – source, wiki.oopswhatdiddelawareidahoalaskaJoe
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:11 pmLet’s say Ch. J. Roberts under mandatoryquarantine on January 20. Does the swearing in duty then go the justice with most seniority or one that is designated by the president elect or the president outgoing? Or is it a glass booth and nitrite gloves?
urbanleftbehind (098bc9) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:20 pm@42. Yeah– a VP who eulogized KKK’s Byrd and labeled blacks ‘super predators.’ Nobody made Joe say the racist things he does– but Joe. Wonder what color is his lawn jockey?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:21 pm39.What makes Biden being born on third base?
A little leaguer.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:22 pmWhat were FDR, LBJ and probably Richard Nixon then?
Two of three Ronald Reagan voted for, that’s who. ;-
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:30 pmOh, good grief. So basically, he just undid any of last night’s “appearance” of being a more serious candidate. Lipstick on a pig, etc.
Dana (6995e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:32 pmHe’s at a rally; it’s like givin Biden a pass on plagiarism, his racism– and not living in Scranton for 67 years.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:35 pmdidn’t read them
if you have a non trash source, go for it. all i said was citing pjmedia is like citing something you stepped in
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:40 pm@50. ROFLMAOPIP ‘Denial’ is a river in Egypt, Dustin: read them. The source of ‘denial’ has been found: IT IS BIDEN HIMSELF.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:46 pmNot so, Master Secretary!
LBJ being sworn in by a federal judge on the plane back from Dallas (by a woman – sorry ACB!) is the most recent departure from the tradition of the Chief Justice administering the oath.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:50 pmActually, urbanleftbehind, anybody can administer the President’s oath of office. I could, you could, Amy Barrett could. The only Constitutional requirement is that he takes it. However, every President has been sworn in by the Chief Justice, and until Ladybird Johnson the Clerk of the Supreme Court held the Bible.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:51 pmBiden’s racism reminds me of my long dead grandfather who’d tip black Skycaps and Redcaps a dollar for ‘pork chop money,’ It’s so wholly out of place in 2020.
Like record players.
“C’mon, man?! Keep the faith!” – Joe ‘Bojangles’ Biden
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:52 pmAll of those were to the “act as President” following the death of the sitting President, I believe, Mr. Dave.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:53 pmNot that I because you the exception to “every”. Except like Dave said, urbanlefbehind.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:55 pm@53. However, every President has been sworn in by the Chief Justice, and until Ladybird Johnson the Clerk of the Supreme Court held the Bible.
Sarah Tilghman Hughes was an American lawyer and federal judge who served on the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas. She is best known as the judge who swore in Lyndon B. Johnson as President of the United States on Air Force One after John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas on November 22, 1963. As of 2020 she is the only woman in United States history to have sworn in a President.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:56 pm
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:56 pmbecausebegrudgemr president washington didnt take the oath from any harvardtrash chief justice mr nk
because there wasnt one
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 6:58 pmI will not debate “chicken or egg”, Mr. Dave, and especially not when it involves the father of our country.
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:03 pmTwo of three Ronald Reagan voted for, that’s who. ;-
No one who voted for Donald Trump should point that finger.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:19 pmSo, Chief Taney swore in Lincoln? That would have been something to see.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:21 pmWell hush my puppies; Lindsey Graham is on Fox begging for money. He’s clearly panicked- in case of emergency, break glass and shout ‘Ronald Reagan.’ He did.
“Help Donald Trump and me,” cries Lindsey… Anybody remember what Lindsey called Trump?
Hint: “A kook and a “race-baiting xenophobic bigot.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:21 pm@61. Lest you forgt, Kevin, 63 million Americans did vote for Trump and would like show you which finger they used. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:24 pmIt ain’t serious unless Mith Lindsay, desperate for ticket-splitters, admits being to being a different kind of Proud Boy.
urbanleftbehind (098bc9) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:26 pmTwo versions of a song from the musical performancce of Aristophanes’ “Lysistrate” as to why some men choose bachelorhood, for you, urbanleftbehind.
For the staging.
For the musical excellence. (You’ve heard the singers before.)
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:41 pmOT: Judge Sullivan pimp-slaps Trump’s hacks again:
Under the Clinesmith standard, somebody should be charged with a felony for each of those falsifications of court documents, no?
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:47 pmUnder any standard, lawyers inducing or permitting a person they know to be innocent to plead guilty is a violation of their duty of candor to the court.
Barr just might have known what he was doing when he opened this can of worms, I have come to realize, and it might not have been only a favor to Flynn. Mueller’s prosecutors’ necks, DOJ or not, and Flynn’s pre-Sidney Powell lawyers’ necks, could be resting on the chopping block.
(Yes, I have been doing CLE.)
nk (1d9030) — 10/23/2020 @ 7:57 pmI played The Magistrate in my high school drama club’s (heavily censored…) production of Lysistrata.
Not the same translation, but I remember this bit:
Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 8:05 pmSam Elliott narrated, Biden wins.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 10/24/2020 @ 5:58 amI don’t have the time or motivation to fact-check the Trump ad, so I’ll presume most or all of it is false.
Ads don’t matter at this point.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/24/trump-election-paranoia-431330
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 10/24/2020 @ 6:06 amJonah: Let’s Do the Time Warp Again – The Endless Purgatory of 2016
Read it all!
Dave (1bb933) — 10/24/2020 @ 6:39 amLest you forgt, Kevin, 63 million Americans did vote for Trump and would like show you which finger they used.
As it turns out, they were looking the the mirror when they did it.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/24/2020 @ 7:05 amYou two really tried to change what I said, but you said Biden was the only racist on stage. I replied that’s absurd and you seem to be reading some trash tabloid stuff to inform yourself.
No doubt if you only look at the most hysterical Trump defender, you will walk away thinking Trump is worth your vote. I prefer to stay informed.
Trump’s the worst. Biden ain’t great or anything, but you voted for Trump so your middle finger to America message was received and the reliability of your REAGANOMICS and Charlie Chaplin collection argument is understood.
A vote for Trump is a vote to GFY.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/24/2020 @ 7:14 amDave @72. People who can’t think of anything else to write about, will fall back to the fiction that Trump has a personality to be disordered. Lemee ‘splain Tiny Donnie to you:
When Donnie was little, he walked in on mommy and daddy engaged in family-making, and he wet his little sailor suit, and his nanny spanked him on his bare bottom. Now only “mommies” will do for Donnie. And the odd sailor (very odd). If they love him, all is right in his world. If they scold him, they’re mean “nannies” and he’s going to fire them.
It’s simple if you do the analysis.
nk (1d9030) — 10/24/2020 @ 8:26 amScientists are just now saying kids aren’t big vectors for COVID as school openings haven’t seen a big jump in cases. Shocker.
https://news.yahoo.com/schoolchildren-seem-unlikely-fuel-coronavirus-121111897.html
But I’m sure blue state governors will stall until Biden is elected. So Democrats can spike the political football.
Hoi Polloi (92d467) — 10/24/2020 @ 9:22 amhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bII8AH5t6zI
Sammy Finkelman (a69e24) — 10/25/2020 @ 11:26 am10. Dave (1bb933) — 10/23/2020 @ 5:14 pm
The proper response, if they had anybody competent, would be to copy all the quotes there, but fill them in with missing quotes, from Dr, Fauci and from news articles.
Most of these Trump statements were completely reasonable. With exceptions, like his thanking China.
Sammy Finkelman (a69e24) — 10/25/2020 @ 1:49 pmBoth could be true.
Cases could be up, yet the cure is in sight. (if on;y Trump would have the wit and the courage to say it(
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-scott-gottlieb-discusses-coronavirus-on-face-the-nation-october-25-2020
Sammy Finkelman (a69e24) — 10/25/2020 @ 1:59 pm