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2/20/2019

Did AOC’s Chief of Staff Use a PAC to Funnel Illegal Contributions to Her?

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:59 am



Not sure if y’all followed the kerfuffle when conservative Luke Thompson questioned AOC about her boyfriend having a House email address. AOC herself snapped that it was a way for the boyfriend to monitor her calendar; all the spouses do it (though he’s not a spouse); and Thompson was briefly suspended from Twitter for “doxxing” AOC’s boyfriend with, um, publicly available information.

Anyway, that was a stupid controversy but it led to Thompson firing back with this Medium piece, which is worth your time.

The piece is complicated but (if I understand it correctly) the upshot is that AOC’s wealthy Chief of Staff Saikat Chakrabarti co-founded a PAC that provides campaign services to newbie politicians. The PAC also serves to fuzz up the source of campaign contributions. AOC used the services of the PAC, which subsequently hired AOC’s boyfriend as a “marketing consultant” despite his apparent relative lack of marketing experience, and paid him thousands. Thompson wonders if this was a way for Chakrabarti (using the PAC) to funnel money directly to AOC in excess of campaign finance contribution limits — especially given that she hired the PAC’s co-founder as her chief of staff once the campaign was over.

Swampy!

Might be worth further investigation. Of course, campaign finance laws don’t matter when Donald Trump violates them, but I bet we can care about them if AOC broke them!

AOC: Making America Care About Character Again!

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

82 Responses to “Did AOC’s Chief of Staff Use a PAC to Funnel Illegal Contributions to Her?”

  1. First response (to snark): Trump’s “breaking” of campaign finance laws depends on some very conflicted issues, such as “is everything part of the campaign?” versus “is every dollar spent on behalf of a candidate a campaign donation?”.

    Campaign funds spent on candidate’s wife’s clothes? Criminal! Not campaign related!
    Outside funds spent on blackmail payoff? Criminal! Campaign related!

    It’s really hard to know. I think the term of art is “unconstitutionally vague.”

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  2. But enough whataboutism.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  3. AOC should be held to the same standards D’Souza was held to.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  4. However, I think that AOC has an even more impressive cult following than Donald Trump. She could shoot a cop on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote. Maybe a special prosecutor?

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  5. Too late for Donald Scott, Supreme Court unanimously incorporates “excessive fines” ban on states, severely limiting seizures.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-says-constitutional-protection-against-excessive-fines-applies-to-state-actions/2019/02/20/204ce0d4-3522-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  6. If/when Trump is found guilty of campaign finance violations, he will need to pay the piper.

    Same goes for Ocasio-Cortez… and as D’Souza’s case seemed to prove, it is a very selective prosecution, historically speaking.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  7. She can’t dance around this one.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  8. A very interesting piece by Thompson. As he says, all of this info took a relative minimal amount of effort. Ain’t it a shame there aren’t any “reporters” in the MSM that have an interest.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  9. How much more do you need to conclude that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a foreign asset who should be investigated by a special counsel?

    nk (dbc370)

  10. Who because she is one of cenks angels I dint get it, but khuzaimi would most certainly round file the referral that’s how it works.

    Narciso (026cbf)

  11. Tsk tsk, she can just claim ignorance.

    She has a degree in economics from Boston Univ. yet wants to spend the $3 bil of nonexistant Amazon tax credits somewhere else and was elected to the Congress without knowing the three branches of govt.

    That won’t stop her from being a star for the new/improved socialists however.

    harkin (e15868)

  12. Kevin M — that’s fantastic news. Huzzah!

    aphrael (3f0569)

  13. AOC should have went to Trump University

    mg (8cbc69)

  14. They looked like my neighbors kids, Col.

    mg (8cbc69)

  15. About AOC… from what I am reading, the consensus is it’s different when we do it because shut up. I’m happy with one set of rules, thank you.

    Even when it damages someone I favor.

    Simon Jester (548267)

  16. As Patterico writes, the piece is kind of hard to read while trying to track every detail, but here is a pretty good encapsulation that appears towards the end:

    At the beginning of October, more than four months into her campaign, AOC’s fundraising had been anemic. Excluding an in-kind contribution from Chakrabarti, she’d raised only $3,032.75 but had already spent $27,591.27 — more than half of which she’d paid to Chakrabarti’s Brand New Congress LLC. By the end of 2017 she’d spent $37,249.94 but raised only $8,361.03. That’s a lot of money to stick on a credit card. Since no loans are recorded on her campaign books, presumably either AOC or [our common-law nephew Riley] Roberts was fronting the necessary cash.

    It looks to me like Chakrabarti was effectively reimbursing AOC for a third of her expenses with Brand New Congress LLC, perhaps so that she would stay in the race despite her mounting debt.

    The shadiness of the whole business may also explain why Roberts lists his residence as Arizona for the expenditure, rather than New York. Roberts is from Arizona, but was living in New York with AOC. His other contributions to her campaign, both cash and in-kind, list New York as his residence.

    Maybe I am just an old softie for Our Delightfully Screwy Congresswoman Niece, but given that Roberts appears to only have received $6,000 in this scheme, which I imagine was so that they could pay rent, but clothes, etc. while AOC did her campaigning. I do agree with the notion that campaign violations are campaign violations, no matter how small the sum, and it’s especially bad when it appears to be an orchestrated attempt to launder funds, not to mention the real head-scratcher of where supposedly broke AOC was getting the money to operate her campaign if she wasn’t using credit cards. But Dear Niece is still a piker in the graft game compared to the Andrew Cuomos of the world.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  17. how often do democrats really made accountable, in the courts, Anthony weiner, well that’s not a good example, and even then the most agregious law violations were not even examined, jesse Jackson jr, perhaps, that Kirkpatrick fellow in Detroit, and we can add the example of david rivera, who misrepresented the source of his income for the better part of a decade, but zampolit, Fernandez rundle wasn’t interested, so it is with joe Garcia, who emerges like tumbleweeds on some dodgy enterprise or another,

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. OT… but pretty funny… https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1098199334317744128

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  19. D’Souza!!

    Gesundheit. =sniff= Pardon me.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. gone be bygones, well that wasn’t the attitude here, re Christine McDonnell, I don’t know why there is this tendency to point like Donald Sutherland in body snatchers, in the same direction as virtually every other site, except legal insurrection, they did find a judge to follow up that ethics complaint, so now the world is safe, what was she thinking, rich architects daughters yes, professing Christians, not a chance, they might stink up the place,

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. It sounds like Indian collusion to me.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. actually Turkish collusion, from the likes of creepy cenk uygur, who heads the justice democrats,

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. What’s the theory on what or who is behind the AOC phenomena? She’s got some ethical questions relating to her boyfriend. If this article is to be believed it’s not clear where the money came from for her campaign. But she has better PR now than Obama did during his first term and she’s sitting on House panels complaining about PAC and dark money and the shifty ways that politicians make money off their office.

    frosty48 (e5f48a)

  24. sure why not:

    http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/20/andrew-mccabe-thinks-russia-wanted-him-to-head-the-fbi/

    see Chisholm, earle, et al can always be counted to hunt upstarts to the end, as long as they are on the right, and when it turns out they were wrong or malicious prosecution, sorry about that,

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. “I don’t know why there is this tendency to point like Donald Sutherland in body snatchers”

    That image is so apt.

    harkin (e15868)

  26. OT, but noteworthy to Americans of a ‘certain age’…

    February 20, 1962; 57 years ago this day, John Glenn, the former astronaut and late senator from Ohio, became the first American to thunder into space on top of a not-always-reliable Atlas rocket and orbit our Earth three times aboard his Friendship 7 Mercury capsule.

    Believe it or not, the entire nation- and much of the Free World- paused to watch and listen. Remember it well. Glenn has left us, but his ‘spacecraft’ remains on display in Washington at the NASM.

    ‘That other America. They did things differently there.’ – Dan Rather, CBS News, 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. they create astroturf as legitimate groundswell, and they bury legitimate candidacies with cries of dark money, that was Chisholm’s game, which ultimately worked by attrition in Wisconsin after 8 years. and now they are on a express train to oblivion,

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. ‘That other America. They did things differently there.’ – Dan Rather, CBS News, 1989
    __ _

    “If the documents are not what we were led to believe, I’d like to break that story,” – Dan Rather, CBS News, 2004

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  29. Not sure if y’all followed the kerfuffle when conservative Luke Thompson questioned AOC about her boyfriend having a House email address.

    I didn’t know about that at all.

    This is one fo the things thatw asn’t cpvered by the New York tyimes – and apaprently it didn’t make the Wall Street Journal either, and it didn’t get into the New York Post, and if this was on aradiop program, I wasn’t listening too much the past week.

    It’s about five days old. I see these stories now:

    On Medium:

    https://medium.com/@ltthompso/the-congresswoman-loves-the-swamp-d33296ec251e

    Last Friday, my mentions died for your sins. I posted a screen grab of Riley Roberts’s House Microsoft Outlook card, including his official house.gov email address, office phone number, and his designation as “Staff”. Roberts is the boyfriend of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The Congresswoman was upset…

    …Her Chief of Staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, soon followed, reiterating the calendar claim and accusing me of doxxing Mr. Roberts by posting his publicly available LinkedIn profile (which he deleted) and his official government address and the office phone number…

    …Regardless, hordes of her howling minions followed. I was briefly suspended by Twitter for revealing personal information, only to be released with an apology when I pointed out that everything I posted is government property ..

    …During my suspension I talked to a Congressional spouse, a few reporters, and some staffers from both parties. AOC hasn’t exactly been winning friends lately, which is how I got Roberts’s Outlook screen grab in the first place. A rumor on the Hill was circulating that Roberts had attended a Congressional Progressive Caucus meeting. A tipster looked to see if he’d been given staff credentials. It appeared he had. All agreed this was irregular if he was just a spouse.

    Per the House Admin office, a family member can, in special circumstances, get a house.gov email address. But Roberts is not a family member, and although AOC referred to him as her partner in November of last year, she omitted him from her mandatory candidate financial disclosures for 2017 and 2018. Perhaps they’ve gotten married since. If so — if he is her spouse now — we should see his finances disclosed along with hers in her 2019 disclosure form due in May. But to be clear, AOC did not disclose Roberts’s finances as a spouse during her campaign.

    Regardless, absent a wavier from House Ethics, family members have to be volunteers. AOC’s office apparently doesn’t believe in having unpaid workers, as according to Chakrabarti they have no volunteers in the office.

    So Roberts is designated as staff but also isn’t on AOC’s staff, even though he showed up Friday morning in the House directory as processing into her personal office as a staffer. In other words his staff status, like his spouse status, is akin to Schrodinger’s cat…

    And a “debunking” story from the Washintton Post:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/16/conservatives-cant-stop-obsessing-over-ocasio-cortez-their-latest-target-her-boyfriend/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a02af7c0d9c1

    First, it was her clothing. Then her dancing. Not to mention her credit score, her apartment, her hometown. Maybe it was only a matter of time before conservatives went after Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s love life.

    On Friday — the day after Valentine’s Day, as some commenters dutifully noted — an accusation that the New York Democrat was employing her boyfriend as a member of her staff made its way around the Twitter pages of various conservative media magoos. Gleeful outrage ensued.

    Of course the issue was either she was, or she wasn’t. She could if he was not her spouse. If he was her spouse, she couldn’t pay him, and she would also be obligated to disclose his finances. Now, if he wasn’t on the staff, he shouldn’t have a House email address. But he did have one.

    Then there are things On Breitbarft, Townhall, Fox News and gteh Daily Mail

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  30. Rep. Eric Swalwell
    @RepSwalwell
    It’s snowing in #NewYork. I need coffee. The closest cafe is inside Trump Tower. This is me walking to an alternative.
    __ _

    William in Canton
    @PBROnTap
    Rep Swalell is a true hero. If you don’t believe me just ask him and he’ll tell you so.
    __ _

    ⲗⲁⲩⲣⲁ
    @womaninmedicine
    There’s exactly 5 across from the trump tower.
    __ _

    Ethan Haveaseat
    @ethan_hevesy
    I can’t imagine being that angry at a building
    __ _

    Alex Griswold
    @HashtagGriswold
    Swalwell later froze to death as slowly he came to the realization that most of NYC’s cafes are run by a rival presidential candidate
    __ _

    Tipsy Coachman
    @TipsyCoachman
    The Congressman wearily squinted his eyes and adjusted the Windsor knot of his $150 neck tie as he looked up into the eye of his out held smartphone.

    “Should I pose chin up,” he thought, “like Washington crossing the Delaware?”

    “No,” he said, “I’m not a legend. Only a hero.”
    __ _

    Seth
    @_RSR34
    Replying to
    @RepSwalwell
    Covered in snowflakes….the irony
    __ _

    Tom Pingel
    @TomPingel1
    “To the nuke arsenal”

    _

    [to those who don’t get the context of that last one…..google and enjoy]
    _

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  31. 25. frosty48 (e5f48a) — 2/20/2019 @ 11:22 am

    What’s the theory on what or who is behind the AOC phenomena?

    She originally got PR because of her surprise victory in the low turnout early primary (June – for federal races and Sept for all others, a new law will now combine them) over Congressman Joe Crowley (who has just now resigned as Queens Democratic leader in order to have things be more compatible with being a lobbyist. It was thought before that he might make atry for some New York State office.)

    Joe Crowley was the fourth or so ranking Democrat in the House and widely thought to be possible replacement for Nancy Pelosi, given he was about 54.

    Now maybe all the interest in her wasn’t entrely spontaneous and somebody promoted this in some way (as being more significant than it was)

    Joe Crowley only got worried right at the end of the campaign, and maybe what he did then didn’t help.

    He had had no real challenges for maybe a dozen years, and his district was both more Hispanic and more sympathetic to a Socialist than before (there were many well off Millenials who had voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 presiential primary who had moved into it.)

    Alexandria Ocasio Cortez knocked on enough doors and had volunteers form the Democratic Socialists of America.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  32. It looks like “Brand New Congress” effectively functioned as a political party – and is a reason AOC is effectively not independent.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  33. Preckwinkle has no fan here; hell my mom in her days as a bank vault attendant, remembers when then-Alderwoman Preckwinkle would withdraw gobs of cash from the bank on the Saturday before Election Day. Foxx knocked out Anita Alvarez, so FTH for real!

    With regard to the Trib story, while these hens travel the same circles, no smoking gun, the chief of staff named was a John Keller…I think its something far more base re Foxx and the Smollett case i.e. kicking it with the co-stars/producers.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  34. narciso @35 You posted in the wrong thread. Kim Foxx was tied to the Jessie Smolett case

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  35. Feel sorry for this vato, though…he cant break through the Star Wars Cantina menagerie, otherwise he’d whip the likes of Salena Zito 180 degrees around.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  36. The New Yorkers I know who all love AOC are all comparatively poor, work in the service industry, are second-generation immigrants, or a mix of the three.

    She speaks for a population who feels they have been ignored, much as Trump does.

    The thing I find baffling about her as a phenomenon, though, is that the right seems to pay *way* more attention to her than anyone I know on the left who isn’t in NYC.

    aphrael (3f0569)

  37. “The thing I find baffling about her as a phenomenon, though, is that the right seems to pay *way* more attention to her than anyone I know on the left who isn’t in NYC”.

    This seems to be the standard reply to anyone on the right who points out her idiotic ramblings. It’s very weak sauce.

    If the mainstream media actually did its job instead of fawning over her you wouldn’t see half of the ridicule, but then she’d still be mixing drinks instead of sitting in the Congress, representing Woke Nation and pretending she knows what she’s talking about.

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  38. I think the old saw about pulling braids in the school yard applies when you see candids like this (i call it the PR b#%ty check) or the hubbub about her dancing. Still think shes a big albatross on the D party though.

    urbanleftbehind (9b10d3)

  39. Silicone Valleys Chakrabarti has paid himself to control AOC and her partner. Coming to a race near you.

    mg (8cbc69)

  40. Any bill with 70 cosponsors needs to be taken seriously, it failed on its first debut, remember all the think tank support. In 1970 the house was not as radical as it was in 1974.

    Narciso (acaba3)

  41. “Still think shes a big albatross on the D party though.”

    Just imagine if we had a fairly balanced media.

    Instead, just search ‘AOC interview’ on YouTube and experience the warm embrace of the collective fawn (and show me any other freshman congress member who was treated same).

    harkin (e15868)

  42. I think ol’ Saikat Chakrabarti is the “brains” behind the whole operation. Pepto-Omarosa is just a figurehead, as well as a dunderhead.

    Looks like her major pushes the grievance theory of econ, so no small wonder.

    https://www.bu.edu/academics/cas/courses/economics/

    Patricia (3363ec)

  43. Believe it or not, the entire nation- and much of the Free World- paused to watch and listen.

    I believe it. Somewhere I have the first-day-cover of the Friendship 7 stamp.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  44. in 1950, a greater social insurance was considered dead and buried, but the dems continued to build on till they got medicare in 1965, which coincidentally is a driver of our future insolvency, this was compounded by the hmo and erisa as well as other legislation, that provoked a situation where first Hillary care was proposed, and then it was doa, but also within 15 years it was essentially the law of the land, so don’t tell me any of this is impossible, I add to that how the embryo of the green new deal has been implanted in Australia, and what that result yields,

    narciso (d1f714)

  45. Oh Sandy, my mai-tai is light on teh rum
    Your Breakfast Club dancin’ Evita never grows old
    Oh go for teh gusto for we may never see you again
    Hey Sandy girl

    Bruce Springstein, 4th of July, Asbury Park

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  46. Well, all I know about medicare and social security is they got turned on for me this week. I would have bet against it 30 years ago.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  47. I’ve had Medicare part a since September and just applied for SS benefits and part b. I wonder how much longer it will be viable though.

    Colonel Haiku (273e2b)

  48. Ganja Kamala’s Dad 20/20

    mg (8cbc69)

  49. @53/@54. Socialism; your future. Embrace it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. I’ve had Medicare part a since September and just applied for SS benefits and part b. I wonder how much longer it will be viable though.

    Depends on how long the Millennials think taxes are good for them.

    SS is not in much trouble — the Gen X gap has been filled with legal immigrants, mostly, and assuming the Millennials ever get jobs, it will work itself out with a few nips and tucks.

    Medicare, OTOH, is a problem. If they work within the system, some things are going to be disallowed (hip replacements), deductibles will go up and the supplements will carry some things now paid by Medicare. And it may become unavailable or stupidly expensive for the affluent (a wealth test).

    Or maybe they just make it a fixed subsidy for private insurance. They’d better have the votes, though.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  51. @53/@54. Socialism; your future. Embrace it.

    Future? If the money I paid in SS taxes had gone into the S&P500 over the last 45 years, I’d be getting more monthly than I will. Medicare I don’t know about, but there are no legal alternatives really. Being “given” something you need at gunpoint isn’t socialism, it’s fascism.

    Guess I should have used 401ks more. Oh wait, those weren’t available for my first 25 years on the job.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  52. @49. There’s an interesting story-to collectors- surrounding the stamp, the FDCs and their postmarks. Will leave it to you to source it if you care to.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  53. Well that possible the returns are meager but then you had the 2008-9 downturn,

    Narciso (cb7171)

  54. @58. Unless, of course, you’d lost it in, say, the crash of ’87, the S&L collapse or the crash of ’08… or lent money to AC casino builder Trump. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. 58… yes, I hear you. ’08-’09 kicked my butt on 401k loss, I’m just happy I recovered what was lost and then some. Also thankful I had the option of a leaving with a lump sum with 2018 interest rates.

    I’m sure this new world of retirement will grow on me, but it is a radical change after working for nearly 46 years after college.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  56. “Who would have thought that, this deep into the Russia collusion probe, we’d be learning about yet another dossier connected to Hillary Clinton? And, as it turns out, it was sort of a family secret.

    By his own account, senior Department of Justice (DOJ) official Bruce Ohr played an essential — and unorthodox — role, carrying politically tainted allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion to the FBI during the 2016 election.

    First, it was unverified intelligence starting in July 2016 from Trump-hating former British spy Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous Russia dossier.

    Next, it was sketchy intelligence starting in August 2016 from Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, an opposition-research contractor who hired Steele and was paid to help Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign develop political dirt on Trump.

    And now we learn, from testimony that is still being kept secret from the public, that Ohr admitted to Congress last year that he also took Russia information that his wife, Nellie, assembled against Trump on a computer drive and delivered that to the FBI in 2016 — a revelation that has raised fresh concerns in Congress about a possible conflict of interest.

    Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS and, for a time, worked on the same Clinton-financed Russian research project as Steele, according to the testimony.

    DOJ ethics rules forbid department officials from working in cases where a spouse has a financial interest, a prohibition that Bruce Ohr said he knew about when he forwarded his wife’s evidence to the FBI.”

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/430717-the-family-secret-bruce-ohr-told-rod-rosenstein-about-russia-case

    Kinda like a team of vipers.

    harkin (e15868)

  57. If the mainstream media actually did its job instead of fawning over her you wouldn’t see half of the ridicule, but then she’d still be mixing drinks instead of sitting in the Congress, representing Woke Nation and pretending she knows what she’s talking about.

    I agree with the basic sentiment about her capabilities, but I think the media attention didn’t start until she beat Crowley, and effectively got the Congressional seat. The media attention did not get elected. It only made her a more notorious Congressperson than any freshman Representative can reasonably expecf,

    Kishnevi (dfdff5)

  58. 63… FFS, isn’t that something. This pile of dung just keeps getting deeper and deeper. I hope this Barr fellow has an interest in actually doing his job.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  59. DOJ ethics rules forbid department officials from working in cases where a spouse has a financial interest, a prohibition that Bruce Ohr said he knew about when he forwarded his wife’s evidence to the FBI.”

    John Solomon apparently doesn’t even read what he writes. Because otherwise he would have noticed that Ohr was complying with the rule. He sent the “evidence” to the people who were working on the case….which he was not.

    Kishnevi (dfdff5)

  60. Turns out, Luke Thompson made some significant errors:

    https://twitter.com/PaulBlu/status/1098295735500619778

    Also, in the Medium article, Saikat Chakrabarti shows up in the responses to refute, well, pretty much everything.

    Davethulhu (e458f4)

  61. Kevin M — that’s fantastic news. Huzzah!

    Note that the plaintiff’s counsel was Institute for Justice — http://ij.org — a civil libertarian organization that defends the individual against the State.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  62. The media attention did not get elected.

    Indeed. If there had been more hoopla maybe Crowley wins.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  63. Sending fabricated evidence is too too funny.

    harkin (b5e7fd)

  64. > This seems to be the standard reply to anyone on the right who points out her idiotic ramblings. It’s very weak sauce.

    I think it’s similar to Congressman King.

    The left spins up in outrage basically any time King speaks, but I pretty strongly suspect that outside his core group of supporters and his constituents, nobody on the rest of the right actually pays him any attention.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  65. @41

    The thing I find baffling about her as a phenomenon, though, is that the right seems to pay *way* more attention to her than anyone I know on the left who isn’t in NYC.

    This isn’t what I’ve noticed. Sure, there are youtube videos mocking her and they can be vicious. But even on those, you’ll find comments extolling her brilliance. Not defending her but just flat out over the top fawning. Any news articles that allow comments will have the same. And these aren’t normal responses. They are comment after comment with language so similar and over the top that the astroturf is obvious. Then, on the other hand, there is no critical press except for the obvious outlets.

    frosty48 (e5f48a)

  66. Frosty48: so you’re looking at comments on youtube? I’m talking about the conversations I have with people in my extended social circles, almost all of whom are urban liberals.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  67. Kevin M (21ca15) — 2/20/2019 @ 7:35 pm

    If the money I paid in SS taxes had gone into the S&P500 over the last 45 years, I’d be getting more monthly than I will.

    That may be true mainly because in calculating benefits earned, the first dollar contributions each year beyond the minimum are valued much more highly than later dollars. There are three tranches I think.

    https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10070.pdf

    Multiply the first $926 in Step 4 by 90%.

    b. Multiply the amount in Step 4 over $926, and less than or equal to $5,583, by 32%.

    c. Multiply the amount in Step 4 over $5,583 by 15%.

    Earlier years are alsoi adjusted for inflation.

    There’s another thing to say here. George W. Bush’s plan was based on the idea that stock market returns are higher.

    But stock market returns, in the long run (20+ years say) reflect economic growth. The official projections for Social Security were based on a low rate of economic growth, and the projections for stock market returns were, ultimately based on a higher one!

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  68. I don’t know if the indexation in any way reflects that, but in earlier years (before the mid-1980s) the Social Security tax rate was lower than it is now. It seems to consider on;y earnings upon which contributions were based.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  69. “I’m talking about the conversations I have with people in my extended social circles, almost all of whom are urban liberals.”
    aphrael (e0cdc9) — 2/21/2019 @ 12:40 pm

    “Hey, let’s talk about the crazy aunt living in our attic” is not your usual conversation icebreaker.

    Munroe (0e8414)

  70. saw this somewhere –
    When asked about Roe vs Wade, AOC says its the only way Mexicans can get across the border!

    mg (7e0e37)

  71. AOC is fitting in nicely with the Swamp . She should be a multimillionaire thru Public Service in no time

    WompWomp (493b9b)

  72. AOC’s explanation for not having a local office was that the rent was too high, but the newly built office she’s getting should be more expensive. On the other hand, Crowley had two and maybe she will have only one.

    Her constituents can’t reach her. (Before, I read that when they call atel number they were being referred to sen Kirstin Gillibrand’s offices)

    She has an official home in Parkchester in the Bronx (her late father’s condominium) and both she and her boyfroend (since college) registered to vote from that address but the mail gets picked up once every few months. She visited New York four or five times since her swearing in but apparently never came there although she did hold a few events in her district.

    Her bofornd is almost unpolitical – more interested in photography maybe.

    Her chief of staff was the organizer of Brand New Congress – he backed 30 candidates only one – AOC got in – and now he’s her chief of staff.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  73. Alexandria Ocasi-Cortez along with Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Presley were part of an audition for congressional seats put on by the Justice Democrats. Did you also know that the Justice Democrats endorsed 79 candidates in 2016 and that 26 of them won congressional seats? An AUDITION that seven people were chosen for and these are three of the people chosen to sew the agenda of Saikat Chakrabarti. Alexandria Ocasi-Cortez’s chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti along with Zak Exley who are instructing AOC in what to say and who to attack wears the picture of Subhas Chandra Bose on his t-shirts in every video he makes, Subhas Chandra Bose is PRO VIOLENCE, ANTI COLONILIST SOCIALIST, who dreamed of a NAZI COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT, AND Saikat Chakrabarti is the person controlling both Alexandria Ocasi-Cortez and Rashida Tlaib. Zak Exley is an expert in Saul Alinsky style organizing. “Saikat Chakrabarti” or would it have been “Zak Exley” because we are certain AOC is not smart enough to come up with this her self.

    kadok (101d1e)


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