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8/5/2018

Our Side Has an Impressive Young Candidate Too, and Naturally Facebook Hates Her

Filed under: General — JVW @ 4:01 pm



[guest post by JVW]

Lost in the brouhaha over our spunky but batty niece, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has been the intriguing story of a very impressive young Republican Congressional candidate running in California’s 16th District, which encompasses parts of Fresno, Merced, and the San Joaquin Valley. Elizabeth Heng is the daughter of Cambodian immigrants who fled their home county during the terror of the communist dictator Pol Pot. Here is how Alexandra Descantis of National Review described her in a nicely-written profile last month:

About a decade ago, after [Heng] graduated from Stanford University, where she had served as student-body president, she returned to the Central Valley and opened a series of cell-phone stores with her brothers. Eventually, she found herself responsible for managing about 75 employees. “That was when I saw firsthand how government regulations impacted businesses negatively,” she says. “I constantly felt that from Washington, D.C., and Sacramento, they were saying that I was everything wrong with our country, when all I was doing was creating jobs.”

She subsequently decided to leave California to work in Washington, D.C., not expecting to stay long. “But it takes a long time to understand how to get legislation across the finish line,” she explains. Before she knew it, she had been in the nation’s capital for about six years, on and off. At one point, she worked on the House Foreign Affairs Committee with congressman Ed Royce (R., Calif.). At another, she aided Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign in Nevada.

In 2016, Heng became a director for President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration ceremony — a role she held even as she traveled to Connecticut in her off hours to obtain an MBA at Yale. (“Never be one of the inauguration directors and get your MBA at the same time,” Heng says of that experience. “It was the worst of all worlds.”) When the inauguration finally took place, she remembers how powerful it was to watch her immigrant parents sitting on the stage with the incoming president.

Nothing against our delightfully daffy Bronx-born, Long Island-bred, Bronx-returning Democrat Socialist superstar, but Ms. Heng’s curriculum vitae is somewhat more impressive than graduated college, interned for Ted Kennedy, then tended bar and worked as a “community organizer.” Though not outright defeating an entrenched and influential incumbent in a one-party district like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez did, Ms. Heng did manage to take 47% of the vote in June’s open primary, holding the incumbent, seven-term Democrat Representative Jim Costa, to 53%. Moreover, she accomplished this feat running as a Republican in a district where Democrats at the top of the Presidential ticket usually get close to 60% of the vote. In the 2014 Republican wave election, Costa narrowly beat Republican challenger Jim Tacherra by a 51% to 49% margin, but in the rematch during the Presidential election year of 2016 when almost twice as many voters cast ballots, Costa cruised to a 58% to 42% victory.

So Ms. Heng, facing what we would assume to be an angry and motivated Democrat base, faces a stiff challenge in pushing aside Mr. Costa this November. To help introduce herself to the electorate, the Heng campaign has produced a wonderful four-minute introductory video. I encourage you to watch it; it is worth the investment of time.

Naturally, this video from an attractive and charismatic young female minority Republican candidate has the left resorting to their usual film-flam. Facebook, citing what we would guess to be the gristly images of Pol Pot’s victims at the beginning of the video, has suspended the Heng for Congress account prevented the video from being embedded on the Heng for Congress page. NRO published a screenshot which the campaign provided, with Facebook’s usual bland and canned language explaining their decision:

Heng screenshot

In the accompanying post, the publisher of National Review, Jack Fowler, gets to the heart of the matter:

Is the Cambodian Genocide now a non-event? Or just too icky for the Silicon Valley Boys? Or maybe this ad-rejection is yet another powerful Republican political message that fails some subjective standard contrived in a liberal hotbed?

That a Stanford graduate can be treated so capriciously by what Fowler rightly terms “the Silicon Valley Boys” ought to be shocking, but in the era of whispers of Twitter shadow bans and the firing of tech employees who hold contrarian social beliefs I guess it can’t be entirely surprising.

I confess that I know nothing about Elizabeth Heng other than what I read in the NRO profile and what I have seen on her website. She may be a little more bullish on the ability of the federal government to Accomplish Great Things than I would prefer, but overall I get the sense that she is a sober-minded and serious person who understands that federal programs must somehow be paid for, and finding the money to fund a program for one year doesn’t automatically mean that you have therefore found the money to fund it forever. If you would like to help her campaign with a donation (the California Democrat machine run by public employee unions, crybullies, and wealthy progressives is no doubt working hard to deflect this challenge) you can do so here.

EDIT: In the initial post I said that Facebook had “suspended” the account, but that doesn’t appear to be accurate. I have amended the post to say that they have prevented the video from being shown on the platform. My apologies for misconstruing the response.

– JVW

116 Responses to “Our Side Has an Impressive Young Candidate Too, and Naturally Facebook Hates Her”

  1. I just made my very first 2018 campaign contribution. I don’t usually donate to more than two or three candidates in any given election.

    JVW (30a532)

  2. EDIT: In the initial post I said that Facebook had “suspended” the account, but that doesn’t appear to be accurate. I have amended the post to say that they have prevented the video from being shown on the platform. My apologies for misconstruing the response.

    JVW (30a532)

  3. Is she for or against the Russian military providing campaign assistance to the GOP? Any Republican who won’t unequivocally condemn it is worse than a socialist Democrat, as far as I’m concerned.

    I would say “our” bright young star already appeared several years ago, and her name is Mia Love.

    Dave (445e97)

  4. Is she for or against the Russian military providing campaign assistance to the GOP? Any Republican who won’t unequivocally condemn it is worse than a socialist Democrat, as far as I’m concerned.

    And I assume that all Democrats need to unequivocally condemn the DNC and Clinton campaign for having such ridiculously lax security that their campaign material was easily obtainable by the crudest of phishing scams and classified state department messages were on the laptop of a man who sexually solicited an underage girl. Or is your outrage meter pointed down a one-way street, Dave?

    JVW (30a532)

  5. I’m not a fan of heroic commercials. I’m cynical that way.

    But this young woman deserves her chance. The other guy had his.

    And I like the positivity.

    Simon Jester (6783c2)

  6. I always though from the Vietnamese diaspora, would make it from Orange county,
    Hun Sen has essentially been Vietnam’s puppet for 40 years,

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  7. As a non-Californian, I’m sticking to my first plan. Kick California out of the Union and we won’t have to care about whom they elect to Congress. And we keep the Sequioas.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. Thats called a shadow ban, the latest wrinkle is labeling info like in Mike dorans posts as sensitive, aka crimethink.

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  9. Van Tran was the real deal in the OC but he couldn’t get through cat girl Loretta Brixey.

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  10. The one who has that notion, has just come back from his Russian vacation, promising a native american buffer zone, to secure

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  11. She’s well within the margin of racism. Take away the animus for Asians, especially those who sacrifice and work as hard as she has, and she’d have a fighting chance. Somehow, I don’t think a visit by DJT would help out there.

    I hope Tucker or some other Fox anchor takes a direct interest in Facebook’s censoring of Heng.

    Ed from SFV (6d42fa)

  12. She’s who the Harvard admissions committee was trying to keep out, ironically the victim of Nixon’s embrace of mao, made us partially responsible for saloth Sars rampage. In the 80s their was a non communist resistance which sought to challenge hun sens rule, they chose poorly in coalition partners

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  13. I think they actually messed with her because of her extremely effective, to paraphrase: “Look what I’ve done the last 14 years compared to my opponent.”

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  14. Son sann and others set up a resistance movement that was based out of Thailand, regrettably their coalition partners were members of the khmer.

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  15. So here is the northern border with nunez district?

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  16. I think Tucker C. might be a far more incendiary figure than Trump himself in that district.

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  17. Well what isnt incendiary nowadays. Now #metoo isnt really a,source for dialogue but scalp seeking, but thats,a quibble in the big scheme of things.

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  18. Maybe they could mudd wrestle. I would watch it.

    wendell (b8d7bc)

  19. That, Wendell, would be like when they made the Cambodian chick dress like a Viet Cong mamasan in the Netflix GLOW series.

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  20. Well that’s why avoided that series like the plague, why would that district be so offlimits

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  21. RIP actress Charlotte Rae at the age of 92, house mother to girls before there was Girls (The Facts of Life).

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  22. To Narcisos #20, too much benner ass to kiss, why do you think the hardest core of them Nunes focuses on the FBI instead of restrictionism.

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  23. I don’t think that’s particularly her burden, yes she worked for trump in Nevada which was a quixotic exercise.

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  24. Seemingly, but i still feel the whole “culinary workers” thousands deep in the early polling lines as shown by Univision at the hotels on the Strip was the bulletin board material for the Salena Zito partisans in Rustbeltia

    urbanleftbehind (7c577b)

  25. Correction she worked for Romney in Nevada, trumps innaugural committee,

    They are rebooting the facts of life too, (Charlton Heston pose)

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  26. R.I.P. Charlotte Rae

    Icy (040abe)

  27. They seem to be endorsing the Chomsky porter thesis there was no year zero -two.

    Narciso (bb3a1d)

  28. Is she for or against the Russian military providing campaign assistance to the GOP? Any Republican who won’t unequivocally condemn it is worse than a socialist Democrat, as far as I’m concerned.

    Again, from Dave the live-long conservative now unabashedly rooting for the Commies. Because Trump.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  29. The district is 58% Hispanic, which makes it tough in the Age of Trump. OTOH, Brown’s train and the Delta smelt don’t work well for the Democrats there. The immigrant angle, and the escape from terror, might resonate with other recent immigrants more than you might guess. Pretty sure that the Dem will try to wrap Trump around her, and she has to walk a fine line in response.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  30. 29 if the district was republican some rich old white fart would be running and the party would tell her to go give a koch brother a good time.

    wendell (b8d7bc)

  31. Juche Dave is always amusing, back in the 80s, the Chinese UK and us, were supporting a resistance movement in Thailand against the Vietnamese backed govt of hun sen.

    Narciso (c042f5)

  32. Actually, the Killing Fields didn’t happen. You can ask any peace activist of the time. Nor did the massacre at Hue. Ditto.
    But the people who did this thing that didn’t happen had been radicalized by US bombing, so what didn’t happen is our fault.
    IMO, some of the resistance to her and her ad in particular is a matter of not wanting to remind people of of one of the left’s greatest achievements in recent decades.

    Richard Aubrey (3d7f6e)

  33. to get a sample of the denial, you consult grover furr (Shirley) and the Montclair state,

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. He’s. Not. Called. ConDave. For. Nothing.

    Colonel Haiku (0e0056)

  35. I think that the inclusion of intelligent women into today’s political process is an act that should be welcomed by all Americans. Who knows, we may even return to having reasoned debates on the issues of the day.

    John Boddie (b479ec)

  36. I think that the inclusion of intelligent women into today’s political process is an act that should be welcomed by all Americans. Who knows, we may even return to having reasoned debates on the issues of the day.

    Heh!

    nk (dbc370)

  37. 35, Harkin they probably feel safer there than at the nursing home which is probably staffed heavily by “swarthy peoples of recent arrivals”.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  38. swarth·y
    ˈswôrT͟Hē/
    adjective
    dark-skinned.
    “she looked frail standing next to her strong and swarthy brother”
    synonyms: dark-skinned, olive-skinned, dusky, tanned, saturnine, black; archaicswart
    “his swarthy complexion”, light-skinned but covered in dark, coarse hair on 90% of body accompanied by strong odor of garlic on breath and undergarments

    Colonel Haiku (0e0056)

  39. And they shop at walmart with that stench

    mg (9e54f8)

  40. Do they try to price-haggle everything when they’re at the cashier as well?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  41. 29. Kevin M (5d3e49) — 8/5/2018 @ 11:55 pm

    Pretty sure that the Dem will try to wrap Trump around her, and she has to walk a fine line in response.

    Trump also will try to wrap himself around her, as he’s doing in Ohio, and as Bill Clinton used to do with many candidates.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  42. Narciso (bb3a1d) — 8/5/2018 @ 5:40 pm

    Hun Sen has essentially been Vietnam’s puppet for 40 years,

    39 years and about 7 months now, and before Hanoi had thought the Khmer Rouge were ther puppets, but Mao’s China stealthly stole them from Hanoi but didn’t let them know the controls were disconnected until the fall of Saigon. (Phompenh was evacuated before, but Hanoi probablyn thouyght they could still issue orders)

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  43. 32. Richard Aubrey (3d7f6e) — 8/6/2018 @ 5:44 am

    Actually, the Killing Fields didn’t happen. You can ask any peace activist of the time.

    They admitted it, as soon as they figured out a way to blame it on Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger. Whcih took a few years.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  44. Speaking of social media, if Trump supporters are going to be conned by all his bluster and falsehoods and other nonsense, they might as well get chumped by the QAnon phenomenon, which is a leftist prank on Trumpalistas.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  45. JVW:

    overall I get the sense that she is a sober-minded and serious person who understands that federal programs must somehow be paid for, and finding the money to fund a program for one year doesn’t automatically mean that you have therefore found the money to fund it forever.

    Marco Rubio figured out a way, which the Democrats “naturally” oppose, claiming that not everybody will get the same amount of money (but do they propose anything that would do that?) or that it will damage Social Security (which it would not affect very much) and then claim it would set a bad precedent.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/marco-rubios-paid-leave-plan-shows-how-conservatives-can-embrace-working-class-families

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  46. I would suspect right off the bat that QAnon is a leftist prank on Trumpalistas except maybe the Russians are involved. And tha question is why doesn’t Trump have the sense to fight it.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  47. Its adulation, what does he care…they best not to a Pence event where he could call attention to them with ” let’s give it up for.. Queer Anus?”..

    urbanleftbehind (633d21)

  48. 46, that’s the kind of proposal that Trump can deny like Peter on Holy Thursday, but gets into the news cycle and mucks up things for generic R congresspeople. It would represent a gamble – that by being there to better care, nurture and steer into success your children, paid leave will have a future ROI (through your child better able to care for you in old age) better than Social Security in your retirement years.

    urbanleftbehind (633d21)

  49. You might think that Trump really should have left the word “fires” out of here, but he was probably trying to clean an earlier tweet.

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump

    Governor Jerry Brown must allow the Free Flow of the vast amounts of water coming from the North and foolishly being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Can be used for fires, farming and everything else. Think of California with plenty of Water – Nice! Fast Federal govt. approvals.

    10:43 AM – 6 Aug 2018

    The earlier tweet (from yesterday) he was trying to clean up:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump

    California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amount of readily available water to be properly utilized. It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Must also tree clear to stop fire spreading!

    3:06 PM – 5 Aug 2018

    The water flowing into the Pacific Ocean has to with the drought affecting farmers in the Central valley and people living in cities and suburbs. Preventing tree clearing does affect fires, but stored water is not a problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  50. 46. 49. urbanleftbehind (633d21) — 8/6/2018 @ 11:20 am

    . It would represent a gamble – that by being there to better care, nurture and steer into success your children, paid leave will have a future ROI (through your child better able to care for you in old age) better than Social Security in your retirement years.

    It’s not even that. It’s that it’s better to use a little bit of money at a time when children are born, than to use it later. Rubio I think would allow the money to be paid back.

    Hammond in National Review basically argues that this – you can call it a “sabbatical” – is as much a logical Social Security benefit as retirement benefits. And you can argue also survivor’s or disability.

    From the NRO article linked above:

    most working families would be unambiguously better off given the option to transfer income from late in their career, when most are near the peak of their earning potential, to a period of genuine income volatility.

    What this could do is say postpone standard retirement age by 8 months in return for 6 months leave, or reduce benefts slightly except that people could reimburse Social Security – it would be more borrowing than a benefit. Even without that, it is transferring income from a time when it is not needed so much to a time when it is needed more.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  51. Looks like Alex Jones may be the next big test case for whether Trump should go on the monopoly trustbusting warpath (spoiler, he absolutely should, all the big tech companies COLLUDING to ‘independently’ silence him on the same day is absolutely asking for it.)

    Steppe Nomad (89aaaf)

  52. This is coming from the same people, who are in court because they relied on the dossier re Mr gubarev, whose gal reporter miz Atkins was a fave of the senate committee staff (ahem) whose chief editor was a lead figure in the journalist,

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. Even after kicking but and taking names in 14 years, you gotta deal with this.

    *Lots of grains of salt b/c of the recent mis-attribution of a Celtic tattoo sported by an ICE analyst.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  54. Russia in RSA 🇷🇺
    @EmbassyofRussia
    Today marks 73 years since the inhumane and horrific A-bombing of #Hiroshima – not a military target but a city full of civilians incl women & children. 6 August 1945 will forever remain a tragic date in human history. Such tragedy should never be ignored or forgotten #NeverAgain
    __ _

    David Burge
    @iowahawkblog
    Fun fact: 2 days after Hiroshima, USSR declared war on Japan

    harkin (096d35)

  55. @52 Steppe Nomad

    You don’t understand what 1) silencing is 2) what colluding is, and 3) what a toxic piece of garbage Alex Jones is

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  56. So Canada piped up about human rights violations in S Arabia?

    Interesting response:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1026473539573100544/photo/1

    harkin (096d35)

  57. They’re mixed up with grozny, Hiroshima was a key military facility,

    Unlike say daily kos squid?

    Narciso (715336)

  58. Are there amateurs running Saudi Arabia now?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  59. Re Hiroshima:

    Bill Whittle said it best when he took John Stewart apart.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMbvf3sn_g

    harkin (096d35)

  60. I believe dr. strangelove henry kissinger had something to do with events in cambodia. left now says its all nixon and kissingers fault for chasing out prince sinonouk.

    wendell (4b0e8e)

  61. Hiroshima was a necessary evil and most japanese at the time agreed but not politically correct now.

    wendell (4b0e8e)

  62. They were the three remaining untouched targets, Kyoto was off the list

    Narciso (715336)

  63. (spoiler, he absolutely should, all the big tech companies COLLUDING to ‘independently’ silence him on the same day is absolutely asking for it.)

    If Trump doesn’t want an even bigger blue wave in November, his DOJ won’t come near Alex Jones and his being “silenced”.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  64. 61, wendell (4b0e8e) — 8/6/2018 @ 1:36 pm

    left now says its all nixon and kissingers fault for chasing out prince sinonouk.`

    I think Sydney H. Schanburg came up with that idea. Or maybe it was somebody else. A book was written about 1978.

    Maybe the book Sideshow: Kissinger, Nixon, and the Destruction of Cambodia by William Shawcross.

    Also, t is supposed to be that the bombing created the Khmer Rouge. (The Khmer Rouge were actually set up by North Vietnam after the coup , led by Lon Nol, that started trying to chase out the North Vietnamese. They forgot one thing. When you start a warm, you might lose.)

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  65. 64. If Trump doesn’t want a blue wave, he shouldn’t shut down the government over immigration.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  66. when you provide sanctuary to a militant group, while pretending to be neutral, a war might very well break out, the cosvn was real, cooper church forced out us forces after 73, prince sihanouk returned from exile, with the khmer as part of the coalition, they started year zero, in imitation of their maoist idols, noam Chomsky and gareth porter, outright denied that the killings were going on, the ones john Kerry assured us, would not happen, 1978, Vietnam invades and puts hun sen in charge, subsequently two old regime figure, sol sann and dan del, set up a resistance to the hun sen regime, based out of Thailand, one wrinkle though, the khmer are part of the coalition,

    narciso (d1f714)

  67. No cross-examination yet, but Gates laid out all the illegal activities he did with Manafort. The real firewords were again between the judge and the prosecution.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  68. Some things are not offenses

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/06/feinstein-chinese-spy

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. Actually, this gives a better perspective of the current and next Manafort trial, along with all the other wrangling.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  70. Trump also will try to wrap himself around her, as he’s doing in Ohio, and as Bill Clinton used to do with many candidates

    Ohio is one thing — Trump has play there. In California he doesn’t have a lot of possibilities now that the split-up was removed from the ballot by out betters.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  71. Fun fact: 2 days after Hiroshima, USSR declared war on Japan

    And then swiped some islands as conquest.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  72. You don’t understand what 1) silencing is 2) what colluding is, and 3) what a toxic piece of garbage Alex Jones is

    I understand all three, but what YOU don’t understand is Free Speech, which ought to be imposed on these quasi-private monopolies. What next, the US Postal Service declining to carry Jone’s mail? After all, the USPS is a private company.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  73. You can take or leave Alex Jones, but as I pointed out, when they censored mike Doran or Elizabeth hangs and leave other along, like the commie street gang that call itself Antifa.

    Narciso (cb770d)

  74. The Founders never intended the First Amendment to apply to electronic media. It was only intended for the means of communication available at the time, such as non-amplified or naturally acoustically amplified speech, and printed or written material transported on foot, horseback or sailing ship.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. The Founders never intended the First Amendment to apply to electronic media.

    I’m sure they didn’t envision electronic media, but Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, etc. own their printing presses and they have the right to publish as they see fit. This means that the crazy uncle who is a guest at publishing conspiracy theories about the Rothchilds at one site or other can be bounced by the owners of said printing press if he gets a little too nutty. This does not preclude the crazy uncle from starting up his own publication on his own printing press.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  76. nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2018 @ 9:48 pM

    There are 10* kinds of people; those who understand nk’s wry sense of humor, and those who do not.

    * this is true for binary numbers as well

    felipe (023cc9)

  77. @73 Kevin M

    “After all, the USPS is a private company.”

    The USPS is literally mandated by the constitution. It is controlled by Congress.

    “ought to be imposed on these quasi-private monopolies.”

    Facebook, Twitter, etc aren’t monopolies, or even quasi-monopolies. Infowars still exists. Alex Jones has not been silenced.

    Davethulhu (270006)

  78. @74 Narciso

    “You can take or leave Alex Jones”

    Unfortunately, the families of the children killed at Sandy Hook can’t leave him, or his legions of demented fans.

    Davethulhu (270006)

  79. Make that dry as the Mojave, felipe, but okay, lesson learned.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  80. Again, from Dave the live-long conservative now unabashedly rooting for the Commies. Because Trump.

    Dishonest mischaracterization.

    The question boils down to domestic commies or foreign commies. Neither is desirable, but, you know, binary choice, lesser of two evils, yada yada. Given the option of being ruled by misguided Americans or malign foreigners, the choice is easy.

    Would you acquiesce in a foreign-installed puppet government as long as they “made the libs cry”?
    (Spoiler alert: this is not a hypothetical question)

    Concerning Elizabeth Heng, does it not seem a little exploitive to appropriate shocking images of piles of skulls/victims of genocide for a congressional campaign? In the context she uses those images, it is just cynical sensationalism to grab attention and sympathy.

    Also, it is not true that Facebook “prevented the video from being embedded on the Heng for Congress page.” It is embedded there right now, along with a banner video of the skeletons of genocide victims. What Facebook did was block it as advertising to be shown to other Facebook users who didn’t actually visit Ms. Heng’s page. The Facebook rejection notice makes this very clear.

    So JVW’s correction needs another correction.

    Dave (445e97)

  81. Heng’s ad is analogous to a black congressional candidate running an ad with graphic images of lynchings, bull-whippings, church-burnings, etc. in the Jim Crow south.

    We all agree that it would be inappropriate to confront people (including possibly children) with those raw images in a commercial, right?

    Dave (445e97)

  82. As pointed out the occupy vandals has not been deplatformed, also if the candidate was from Guatemala or south Africa, you think that would happen, not on your life.

    Narciso (3cab86)

  83. “Good morning kids. Tuesday and the big story is the fallout over the muzzling of Alex Jones from internet and social media platforms, the obvious politics behind it and the alarming ramifications if measures are not taken as soon as possible to neutralize the danger. And as you look across categories from politics to education to culture you can see how all of this is interrelated to this issue and the “interesting times” we find ourselves living in.

    Back to Alex Jones, I’m no fan. His style is P.T. Barnum but louder, and his content sometimes goes from the kooky (though to be fair, since Obamagate what’s kooky?) to the verge of outright nutterism. That said, as an American and someone who has not done anything illegal vis a vis most of us would consider acceptable norms and speech codes, he has every right to exist, speak his mind and as a commercial enterprise, make a living and profit. If one does not like or agree with him you have the freedom to ignore him, tune him out, or start your own enterprise to counter his ideas and statements with your own. And may the best ideas win in the arena of open debate. That’s America.

    And that’s evidently the problem since we have a not insignificant number of people in this country, minority though they be, who have a raging hard-on of hatred against America. Unfortunately, along with governmental bureaucracies, academia (from whence the poison seeps as demonstrated from the links) they control most of the media. The internet and talk radio challenged newspapers and broadcasting, specifically the big three networks, from controlling the narrative and determining what we were to think was good or evil it turned their world upside down. Hence “Net Neutrality” and the weaponization of the government against voices of dissent and political opposition to the globalist/socialist enterprise (Lois Lerner).

    The election of Donald Trump has caused a violent reaction (Steve Scalise, Rand Paul, Candace Owens, etc.) as well as an organized effort to censor, silence or otherwise destroy him and those who, through his presidency, seek the disabling/dismantling of the Progressive/Democrat/Socialist enterprise and restore as much of America as founded as is possible. And in a nightmare of Orwellian proportions, the media and academia declare anyone who will not submit a “racist” or wielding “white privilege” to silence the oppressed, turn back the clock to 1850, or other garbage. What do you call it when racists, fascists and tyrants start calling you racist, fascist and tyrant?

    As I had stated, the internet was the great equalizer and greatest disruptor and threat to the old guard power structure that kept the Overton window moving ever-leftward. But as with all other aspects of society corrupted by a Marxist professoriate since at least the 1950s, the tech world was not immune. It’s northern California location surely didn’t help either and while the internet itself is open (for now), the platforms whereby one takes advantage of that freedom are in danger of being denied to those deemed as evil, racist, hate mongering unpeople. That is, Republicans, conservatives, Christians, supporters of Israel, a free market, America as founded, the Enlightenment and so on and so on.

    So, having failed at regulating the internet as a whole via Net Neutrality, the social media platforms that live on the internet want to stifle voices they disagree with by outright censorship. Considering that Google, Facebook, Twitter et al are the only game in town, this is problematic. Alex Jones is a test. They failed to take down Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham via Twitter-bot-driven calls for advertiser boycotts. But by utilizing the SPLC as cover to determine that someone is violating terms of service and broadcasting/publishing “hate speech” they can silence anyone. The problem is that they constitute a vast monopoly that effectively controls the free communication of ideas between people. I mean, what good is having a razor when you’re not allowed to own the blades?

    Beyond that, Amazon is grabbing up not just the retail sector but food distribution and even getting its tentacles into health care, while Facebook is pressing banks to let them see users’ financial records. And as Google censors and manipulates its search engine to un-person political enemies and deny help to our own military, it’s eager to get in bed with Communist China to help them quash voices of internal dissent and external criticism. Not a wholesome situation.

    As I said, Jones is the test. If they can effectively silence him then they can silence anyone. And that has ramifications for us, right here. If you think they don’t know who and what we are, think again. And if I really did have a right to openly voice my opinion, instead of worrying about being blackballed from ever working in my industry, I’d be happily signing each post with my real name. Sad, really.”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/376457.php

    Colonel Haiku (0e0056)

  84. So it shouldn’t be hard to find other political ads run by Facebook cynically exploiting graphic images of the skeletons and decomposing bodies of murder victims, emaciated starving babies, etc.

    I’ll wait while you link a few.

    Dave (445e97)

  85. Ask Ace if he is reconsidering his policy of deleting any mention of Brett Kimberlin, and forswearing all other moderation of his blog’s comments section.

    Because, you know, free speech.

    Dave (445e97)

  86. *convicted bomber and perjurer Brett Kimberlin

    Dave (445e97)

  87. A Youtube channel , or a website is the logical extension of a 18th century pamphlet, your not fooling anyone juche Dave

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. ConDave: on teh con since 1992…

    Colonel Haiku (0e0056)

  89. What happened in 1992, Comrade Colonel?

    Dave (445e97)

  90. A Youtube channel , or a website is the logical extension of a 18th century pamphlet, your not fooling anyone juche Dave

    Heng’s ad hasn’t been taken down from YouTube, or from any website.

    She wanted to pay Facebook to force people to view the graphic images of decomposing bodies, for her own cynical purposes.

    Dave (445e97)

  91. Concerning Elizabeth Heng, does it not seem a little exploitive to appropriate shocking images of piles of skulls/victims of genocide for a congressional campaign?

    Politicians exploit images all the time for their political benefit, and her parents had an experience that departed from most other Americans. Sure, it would’ve been nice for her parents to have had their own personal photos of their experiences of the Cambodian genocide, but I’m guessing they were too busy trying to live another day.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  92. Facebook is not only within its rights, but is also ethically, morally, and aesthetically right to refuse ugly and disturbing ads. Who wants to see ugly sh!t when opening his Facebook page. Or any other page on the internet? The main reason I stopped visiting Stacy McCain’s site was an ad for toenail fungus on his front page. Didn’t need no spoon to gag me. I’d want to see a pile of skulls even less.

    nk (dbc370)

  93. Haiku — Serious question — how is compelling google, twitter, facebook to provide a space for the stylings of Alex Jones any different than compelling one of those pro-life California pregnancy support centers to advise patients that contraception, prenatal care and abortion may be obtained free or at low cost from the state? (See National Institute of Family and Life Advocates v. Becerra)

    Appalled (96665e)

  94. because facebook is not explicitly though apparently implicitly biased toward the left, appalled, that’s how the Obama administration were such wizzes at social media, of course it was herr mueller who represented facebook in some recent controversy, just like his firm represents deutsche bank

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. I mentioned the very respectable fellow who is making this happen,

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2018/08/06/as-zimbabwe-goes-so-goes-south-africa/#comment-2393235

    narciso (d1f714)

  96. so still trying to make excuses, for the left appalled, a pregnancy counseling center that pushed abortion, would consider itself a ‘synagogue of satan’, to turn a phrase, a planned parenthood affiliated facility, that required an ultrasound, would not be the same,

    narciso (d1f714)

  97. narc:

    OK — question. Do you believe there needs to be governmental interventions against google, facebook, twitter, if they seriously censor conservatives? I sense the conservative zeitgeist going that way.

    (Seems to me facebook needs old white people, since the kids prefer instagram, so major censorship of conservatives could hurt them. Google is unavoidable, but you tube isn’t. ever hear of dailymotion? And twitter — hm, that’s spawn of the devil, so maybe leave that to the lefties.)

    Appalled (96665e)

  98. if you follow their own logic, which mandates abortion this, transgender this, which labels it as normal, and you wonder why we have such a messed up generation, no appalled they have made it clear that anything to the right of susan Collins is crimethink, so a gang of vandals that attacks public facilities and persons, they don’t get deplatformed,

    narciso (d1f714)

  99. twitter is a tool, it can be used to swarm like they did with Justine sacco, or that Minneapolis dentist, creating the perfect two minute hate, or it can be used for good,

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. narc:

    I am not asking about their logic. I am asking about yours. The social media kings are lefties out to tilt their platforms left. Does the government have a responsibility to do something about it?

    Appalled (96665e)

  101. I would rather it not come to that, but they made the rules, so just like the fake indian, the other broke girl from Westchester, can slum in queens, but a woman whose family survived the killing fields, born of the devils bargain that Nixon made with mao, can’t tell her story,

    narciso (d1f714)

  102. And I want Nickelodeon to stop showing reruns of Friends and show reruns of Combat!, Get Smart, and The Andy Griffith Show, and Ajit Pai better do something about it!

    nk (dbc370)

  103. I don’t have Facebook, BTW.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. I think it’s for middle-aged women who post pictures of themselves and then trade compliments: “Beautiful!” Beautiful!” “Beautiful!”

    nk (dbc370)

  105. I think it’s something they picked up from their hairdressers, IYKWIM.

    nk (dbc370)

  106. your firm or your office doesn’t have a facebook page?

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. for whom does the bell toll?

    https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/1026824324110532608

    narciso (d1f714)

  108. your firm or your office doesn’t have a facebook page?

    Of course not. I did not even have a Yellow Pages listing back in the day.

    nk (dbc370)

  109. Where’s your loyalty? You know that neither the NYT nor Wapo are re-printing Patterico’s posts. Why haven’t you ever complained about that, but are now complaining that Apple, YouTube and Facebook are not republishing Alex Jones?

    Alex Jones does have his own site, doesn’t he? Like Patterico.com? His ISP hasn’t shut it down, has it? That’s what this is all about. That he is not getting picked up for syndication.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. Of course not. I did not even have a Yellow Pages listing back in the day.

    I had a friend who was a yellow page ad saleslady years ago, and on behalf of her let me say that you suck, nk. According to her, law firms and bail bondsmen were the two most lucrative advertisers, and all the sales people fought over those accounts.

    But did you know that back in the 1990s a really successful yellow pages ad salesperson (the people who conned businesses into full-page ads being the best of the lot) could make close to $500k on commissions, according to her? I would imagine that is yet another industry that has fallen by the digital wayside.

    JVW (42615e)

  111. Politicians exploit images all the time for their political benefit, and her parents had an experience that departed from most other Americans. Sure, it would’ve been nice for her parents to have had their own personal photos of their experiences of the Cambodian genocide, but I’m guessing they were too busy trying to live another day.

    So how does the fact that her parents survived a genocidal incident make her a better a congresswoman? I mean, I’m sure it affected her parents, and they shared their experiences with her, as it absolutely appropriate. If her opponent was campaigning on a pro-genocide platform, it would surely make her more of an authority on the subject than most people.

    But since the election isn’t being fought on the issue of genocide, it just seems crass to curry sympathy by exploiting the suffering of the victims. It is absolutely brilliant marketing, no doubt about that – anything that makes people stop and notice your ad is smart marketing. And unburied corpses are real attention-getters.

    We see more and more attempts to shock and appeal to emotion over reason these days. I don’t think it’s a good thing.

    Dave (445e97)

  112. Of course not. I did not even have a Yellow Pages listing back in the day.

    This totally fits my mental image of you, nk.

    I bet you had a sign on the office door that said “Go Away!” too..

    :)

    Dave (445e97)

  113. Facebook has reversed its initial refusal to run the ad

    “Upon further review, it is clear the video contains historical imagery relevant to the candidate’s story,” said Facebook in an email to the Washington Times. “We have since approved the ad and it is now running on Facebook.”

    Dave (445e97)


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